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N.B. Power CEO says it's too early to commit to EUB oversight of Lepreau deal

Lori Clark says utility can’t stick with status quo, defends VP’s $1.3 million salary

Lori Clark says the Crown corporation is looking at a range of options for how Ontario Power Generation might be able to run Lepreau better.

One of them could be "a separate entity" co-owned by the two utilities to manage the plant, allowing them to share profits and financial risk. 

Clark told CBC's Information Morning Fredericton it's too early to say whether the EUB, the province's independent regulator, would get to examine such an arrangement.

"That would be something that obviously would be important in understanding as we go forward. But we're just not at that stage of of the discussions yet."

A subsidiary would lead to more private process

She added she expects an agreement would be scrutinized by the EUB, "but I can't speculate at this point in time."

Louise Comeau of the Conservation Council of New Brunswick said last week that N.B. Power may use a new law allowing it to set up subsidiaries if it strikes a deal with the Ontario corporation.

The subsidiary could then avoid the kind of detailed hearings, disclosures and filing of financial documents that N.B. Power must go through when it's seeking a power rate increase or planning a major project, Comeau said.

Clark said she met with Comeau this week and told her that it's too early to say for sure.

"We need to understand what a potential partnership could look like and then we talk about how we could execute on that."

Louise Comeau smiles at the camera. Louise Comeau, director of climate change and energy solutions at the Conservation Council of New Brunswick, said N.B. Power may use a new law allowing it to set up subsidiaries if it strikes a deal with the Ontario utility. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

The province has already shielded the potential $3 billion cost of the proposed refurbishment of the Mactaquac hydro dam from EUB oversight.

Clark said the goal of any deal with Ontario Power Generation is for Point Lepreau to operate better and avoid the kind of costly shutdowns it has seen recently.

"Any improvement in reliability of the station would be an overall benefit to N.B. Power customers, she said.

"The utility's debt could be reduced, which would reduce interest costs, which would have a downward impact on rates."

Lepreau outage hurt projected profit

The plant has had a series of problems since a $2.4 billion refurbishment wrapped up in 2012.

As of January, the plant had achieved only 55 per cent capacity for 2022-23, according to N.B. Power's filings with the Energy and Utilities Board. 

That includes a 35-day outage that began Dec. 15 and stretched into January, wiping out all of the utility's projected profit for this year. 

The Ontario utility has a large fleet of nuclear reactors, giving it more experience dealing with shutdowns. 

"If we could have some of that expertise here that could help us with our outages, planning the outages and executing the outages, then the plant is down for a shorter period of time and the reliability is higher," Clark said.

Clark took over as interim CEO of N.B. Power last year and was confirmed in the job last month.

A woman wears a black turtleneck and grey sweater, and smiles directly at the camera. Lori Clark, acting N.B. Power CEO, said it's too early to know if a deal may be possible with OPG. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

She said the status quo is not an option for the utility, which carries a debt of more than $5 billion. 

"New Brunswickers have been asking for a change. So I think it's incumbent on the leadership at N.B. Power, and the board, and government to pursue all options and explore them."

That could include giving up direct ownership and management of some power generation so that outside companies absorb more of the cost and the financial risk.

"We may not be the 100 per cent owner of those assets," she said. 

Clark pointed out that's the model the utility is using for wind generation and small modular nuclear reactors, and she wouldn't rule it out for the Mactaquac Dam and the Belledule coal-fired plant.

She also defended the $1.3 million salary of Brett Plummer, N.B. Power's vice-president nuclear.

Vice-president made things better

Opposition MLAs questioned last week why he's being paid so well when the nuclear plant he's responsible for has performed so poorly and needs outside help.

Clark said Plummer improved Lepreau's operations after he was hired in 2015, and recent problems "have been primarily on the what I would call the conventional side, not on the nuclear side of the plant." 

Lepreau "is an older plant that does need to have some significant investment going forward" to help it run more reliably, she said, and that's where Ontario Power Generation could be a partner.

A key calculation for any Lepreau deal will be whether whatever N.B. Power pays to the Ontario utility would cost less than the risk of continuing to go it alone at Point Lepreau. 

ABOUT THE AUTHOR


Jacques Poitras

Provincial Affairs reporter

Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. He grew up in Moncton and covered Parliament in Ottawa for the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal. He has reported on every New Brunswick election since 1995 and won awards from the Radio Television Digital News Association, the National Newspaper Awards and Amnesty International. He is also the author of five non-fiction books about New Brunswick politics and history.

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48 Comments
 
 
 
 
David Amos
Welcome Back to the Circus 
 
G. Timothy Walton
Reply to David Amos 
The nine-ring circus. 
 
 
 
 
 
David Amos 
Need I say that Higgy knows that I would not be impressed by NB Power response to my IRs today within the EUB 529 Matter? 
 
 
David Amos

Reply to David Amos  
Go Figure

Good morning,

NB Power has transferred its 2022 Rate Design Application (Round 2) interrogatory responses to the New Brunswick Energy and Utilities Board's secure FTP site, in accordance with the approved schedule for this Matter.

In addition to the documents transferred via FTP, please find the following documents attached to this email:

1. IR responses (Round 2) for each of Board staff, Public Intervener, David Amos, J.D. Irving Limited, and Utilities Municipal

2. Master List of Filing Documents

In order to access the filed documents please visit the following site using the log-in information provided below:

FTP site: https://dtfiledrop.cirrus9.net/login.html<https://dtfiledrop.cirrus9.net/login.html>

Account: Intervener5

Password:

Per normal practice, responses containing information over which NB Power is claiming confidentiality have been uploaded to a separate FTP site. All confidential documents are classified as Confidential Restricted.

If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to respond to this email.

Kind regards,

 
Lou Bell 
Reply to David Amos 
Anyone can apply for the release of these documents . Even those who THINK they're more important than they really are !  
 
 
 
 
 
Lou Bell
Higgs wants to develop our natural gas industry , as well as many mines throughout NB . Federal regulations put in place by the Liberals have stifled development of any resources here in NB . Think of all the jobs it would create . Selling NG to China alone to replace all those coal fired plants would cut down on grenhouse gases by over 50 % . Ain't gonna happen with the group we have in Ottawa !
 
 
Bob Smith 
Reply to Lou Bell
The natural gas development of Higgs have not been hindered by federal Liberals alone. I would suggest you talk about what happened when natural gas exploration was last allowed in the province. Serious missteps by private companies undermined their future here. Blaming this on federal Liberal is incorrect.  
 
 
Michael Cain 
Reply to Bob Smith  
There is no social licence. That has been decided already.  
 
 
David Amos 

Reply to Lou Bell 
Your spin is truly comical 
 
 
 
 
 
Richard James 
The sale of NB Power is long overdue. Very poorly managed, with too much sense of entitlement....needs to be dealt with. 
 
 
Michael Cain 
Reply to Richard James 
Higgs is going to fix that by bringing in another high-priced manager... or something like that but no one really knows what his intentions are. 
 
 
Rosco holt   
Why an Ontario company interested in a problem plagued Lepreau?

Something smells rotten.

 
David Amos 

Reply to Rosco holt
Cui Bono?
 
 
 
 
 
 
Lou Bell
Correcting the failure of the Graham Liberals years ago in not selling this albatross ! 
 
 
David Amos 

Reply to Lou Bell 
Pure D You know what 
 
 
 
 
 
 
William Murdoch  
What I have long wondered - why is a former Irving Executive on contract working with the Ministry of Energy from the Executive Office of the Premier?

Someone perhaps might know the answer.

 
David Amos
Reply to William Murdoch
Ask your MLA 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Michael Cain 
Like mushrooms, keep the NB rubes in the dark. Let the media trickle out information that the public has a right to see. Any investment in Lepreau to extend its life beyond another 10 years is ludicrous. The SMR, which is planned to be built at Lepreau, probably won't require much if any public intervention or social acceptance. It will only produce about 10% of the operating output of the existing plant, so it is not intended to replace it. We will be the guinea pigs of the technology, but at what price?
 
 
Lou Bell  
Reply to Michael Cain
Many provinces AND the Fed Liberals are on line with SMR's for the future . Something NB Liberals have tried hiding for a couple of years now !! 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Lou Bell   
Peter Jackson 
Do I hear alarm bells? 
 
 
Marcel Belanger 
Reply to Peter Jackson  
Yep, big, big alarm bells. This government is trying to hide its actions vis-a-vis NB Power from the citizenry. 
 
 
Donald LeBlanc 
Reply to Marcel Belanger 
Yes, interesting answer from Ms. Clark when she was asked why now, why this timing. She said one thing is the change in leadership. That may be the answer to why Cronkite was fired, perhaps he wasn’t on board with this deal? And who is to benefit ultimately from this “partnership”? In NB that answer is usually easy to uncover. Why is a former Irving Executive on contract working with the Ministry of Energy from the Executive Office of the Premier?
 
 
Lou Bell  
Reply to Marcel Belanger 
Ever since the Graham Liberals decided to retain NB Power it has been the albatross around our necks , and like with the Liberal Party itself , fiscal responsibility at NB Power is like oil and water ! 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Marcel Belanger  
Oh so true
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Lou Bell 
Not true you know as well I that the Conservatives wanted to retain NB Power However it was the Quebeckers who backed away from the deal
 
 
Lou Bell 
Reply to David Amos
Conservatives weren't in power , the Liberals were ! You should know how the process works ! Obviously not . 
 
 

Re: Matter 529 - NB Power Rate Design Even more Interesting news from CBC

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Tuesday, 4 April 2023

Re: Matter 529 - NB Power Rate Design Even more Interesting news from CBC
 

N.B. Power VP's salary closer to $1.3M, utility acknowledges

Spokesperson says lower figure was ‘honest mistake’ amid scrutiny of Brett Plummer’s pay

Utility spokesperson Dominique Couture said it was "an honest mistake" when the utility provided a much lower figure last Friday, amid controversy over Brett Plummer's position.

Plummer is, in fact, earning between $975,000 and $999,000 US, Couture said.

That's more than $1.3 million Cdn based on the current exchange rate.

A man in a suit speaking into a microphone The salary of Brett Plummer, N.B. Power's vice-president of nuclear energy, has come under political scrutiny with the news the utility is talking to Ontario Power Generation about a role in running Lepreau. (Roger Cosman/CBC)

And it's about double what Plummer was being paid in 2017, despite the Point Lepreau nuclear generating station — his primary responsibility — operating far below capacity.

"It's the juxtaposition between the declining capacity factor at Lepreau and the rising income," said Louse Comeau of the Conservation Council of New Brunswick.

"The whole point was to have improved performance." 

Comeau discovered a figure of $1.2 million Cdn for Plummer's salary in documents N.B. Power filed with the Energy and Utilities Board. That led the utility to acknowledge last week's figure was wrong. 

A head-and-shoulders shot of a woman wearing black-rimmed glasses and a red shirt. Louise Comeau of the Conservation Council of New Brunswick said Plummer was hired specifically to get Lepreau back on track. (Rachel Cave/CBC)

Plummer's large large salary has come under political scrutiny with the news that N.B. Power is talking to Ontario Power Generation, a Crown utility, about a role in running Lepreau.

N.B. Power said there could be "some OPG ownership" of Lepreau, though it added the facility as a whole is not for sale.

As of January, the plant had achieved only 55 per cent capacity for 2022-23, according to N.B. Power's filings with the Energy and Utilities Board. 

That includes a 35-day outage that began Dec. 15 and stretched into January.

Opposition parties have questioned how Plummer's salary can be justified if Lepreau's operation has been poor enough to warrant looking outside the province for help.

Premier Blaine Higgs suggested last week that the Ontario utility's experience with a fleet of nuclear reactors gives it the ability to get better results than the "ups and downs" Lepreau has experienced. 

The plant has had a series of problems since a $2.4-billion refurbishment wrapped up in 2012.

It produced only 90 per cent of the electricity expected of it during the first 7½ years after refurbishment, costing the utility $200 million in electrical production.

A man in a grey suit with a white shirt and no tie is standing in front of a wall gesturing with his arms wide open. Energy Minister Mike Holland said if Ontario Power is brought in to help Lepreau, he will want to know 'why everybody that's in their positions are justified.' (Ed Hunter/CBC)

The shutdown last December wiped out all of the utility's projected profit for this year.

Energy Minister Mike Holland acknowledged last Friday that if Ontario Power Generation is brought in to help Lepreau, "I would be posing the question to the utility: Help me understand why everybody that's in their positions are justified and earning their keep."

N.B. Power said last week that Plummer, an American nuclear engineer with a home in Maine, was earning $675,000 US, a figure it now says was incorrect and that would be the equivalent of around $915,000 Cdn.

Opposition Liberal energy critic Keith Chiasson obtained Plummer's 2022 travel expenses through a right to information request, showing he billed $12,827.94 in living expenses and $15,311.88 in mileage during the year.

Comeau pointed out  Plummer was hired specifically to get Lepreau back on track.

"The big concern is that the capacity factor keeps declining [and] the improvements that they think they're making are not working." 

She believes a deal with the Ontario corporation could involve the creation of an N.B. Power subsidiary that might remove Lepreau's operations from the regulatory scrutiny of the EUB.

Legislation passed by the Higgs government last year allows the utility to create subsidiaries.

The province has already shielded the potential $3-billion cost of the proposed refurbishment of the Mactaquac hydro dam from EUB oversight.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR


Jacques Poitras

Provincial Affairs reporter

Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. He grew up in Moncton and covered Parliament in Ottawa for the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal. He has reported on every New Brunswick election since 1995 and won awards from the Radio Television Digital News Association, the National Newspaper Awards and Amnesty International. He is also the author of five non-fiction books about New Brunswick politics and history.

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David Amos
Need I say I am looking forward to the upcoming Public Hearing of the EUB 529 Matter?   

 
 
David Amos
Go Figure  

"The province has already shielded the potential $3-billion cost of the proposed refurbishment of the Mactaquac hydro dam from EUB oversight."

 
 
 
David Amos
Oh My My I must confess that it nice to see folks are finally cluing into this nonsense  
 
 
 
 
Alex Butt
Spokesperson says lower figure was ‘honest mistake’. Sure sure. They are as believable as the government. Do as they please, all the while we pay dearly for it all.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Alex Butt 
Par for the course  
 
 
 
Louis Leblanc
Massive salary for sub-par performance. No oversight. But if we cut the healthcare budget, we should be ok 
 
 
 
 
Ferdinand Boudreau 
More fog being thrown at the public. Getting tired of all these lies at consumer cost. 
 
 
 
 
Robert Fish 
Honest mistake??? Ill leave it there. 
 
 
 
 
Doug kirby  
NB doesn't have an honest person running anything....hard to accept any of these so called mistakes..it's pretty obvious NB needs a good housecleaning  
 
 
Donald LeBlanc 
Reply to Doug kirby  
Agree, there needs to be an investigation into the workings of the Province of NB.  
 
 
Ellen Moore
Reply to Doug kirby 
It wouldn’t matter who was hired, housecleaning or not. Nobody sensible goes into politics nowadays. It would just be more mediocre ppl who are only in it for the security of a govt pension and paycheck.



Re: Matter 529 - NB Power Rate Design Even more Interesting news from CBC


Paul Chernick

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Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 3:52 PM
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Cc: John Wilson <jwilson@resourceinsight.com>, "Abigail J. Herrington" <Aherrington@lawsoncreamer.com>, "Colwell, Susan" <Susan.Colwell@nbeub.ca>

https://www.science.org/content/article/ontario-cant-do-candu

 

Paul Chernick

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Resource Insight, Inc.

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Ontario Can't Do CANDU

Province decides to mothball two homegrown nuclear reactors

22 Aug 2005 ByPaul Webster

Powerless. Ontario has decided to shut down 2 of its CANDU reactors.

TORONTO--Facing a $1.6-billion repair bill, the government of Ontario decided last week to mothball two 540-megawatt Canada Deuterium-Uranium (CANDU) nuclear reactors more than a decade before their projected retirement date. The decision could be a mortal blow for the domestically engineered reactors, whose unique design allows them to be refueled without going off-line.

The reactors, manufactured by the government-owned Atomic Energy of Canada Limited (AECL), are two of eight located at the Pickering Nuclear Station in the Toronto area. Built in the 1970s, they've been idled since 1997 largely because of thinning in the hundreds of pipes carrying heavy water coolant from the reactor core. Two years ago, three other laid-up Ontario reactors were restarted after refurbishments costing billions of dollars, and their operators now say more repairs are not far off. Some 34 large commercial versions have been built and installed around the world, including 20 in Ontario.

Experts point to the corrosive effect of the heavy water coolant as a major culprit, with the reactor's design contributing to the large repair bills. "Just getting at the pipes is fantastically difficult, dangerous, and expensive," says Frank Greening, former head of nuclear cooling systems analysis at Ontario Power Generation (OPG), the government utility that owns all of Ontario's CANDUs. Even for reactors where the coolant feeder pipes haven't yet deteriorated, says John Luxat, president of the Canadian Nuclear Society and OPG's former head of nuclear safety, "the costs of demonstrating [their safety] are becoming a problem."

Ken Petrunik, AECL's chief operating officer, says the CANDUs, which cost about $1.5 billion new, "perform well in their early years" and that their ability to refuel on-line has yielded "better performance results than any other reactor type in the world." He downplays the impact of Ontario's decision to mothball two reactors by noting that AECL is only weeks away from launching a sales campaign for an advanced version of the CANDU reactor that will compete with new designs from other countries (Science, 19 August, p. 1168).

Still, CANDU's future seems dim. In January the reactor company's U.S. partner, Dominion Resources of Richmond, Virginia, decided to abandon plans to seek a U.S. license for its next-generation CANDU. And in May, Chinese authorities announced that they weren't interested in buying any units beyond the two 700-megawatt units already operating near Shanghai.

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OPG’s record on cost and reliability of its CANDU units have not been encouraging.

 

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Ontario utility could become partial owner of Point Lepreau nuclear plant

 

Premier says after ‘ups and downs’ at Lepreau, deal could lead to

better operation of troubled facility

 

Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Mar 29, 2023 3:45 PM ADT

 

A concrete building with a squat, round tower sits on the edge of land

with rocks and water in the foreground.

The Point Lepreau nuclear plant has been plagued by problems since a

four-year, $2.4-billion refurbishment project ended in 2012.

(Submitted by N.B. Power)

 

N.B. Power is negotiating with Ontario Power Generation on what's

being called "a potential partnership" that could involve a partial

ownership stake in Point Lepreau nuclear generating station.

 

Utility spokesperson Dominique Couture told CBC News an eventual

agreement "could include some OPG ownership in the station."

 

Premier Blaine Higgs confirmed to reporters Wednesday that the Ontario

Crown corporation is meeting with officials in the coming weeks to

discuss improving the operation of New Brunswick's only nuclear power

plant.

 

"The fact that they run multiple nuclear generators, and we only have

one, means they have a level of expertise there. And we've gone

through some of the ups and downs of Lepreau, especially in the last

few years," he said.

 

"So how can we get better capacity there? And how can we turn that

into a partnership for future generation?"

 

A portrait of a man with grey hair and glasses, wearing a trench coat, speaking.

Premier Blaine Higgs said he thinks a partnership is needed and could

be beneficial. (Radio-Canada)

 

Asked if Point Lepreau could be sold to Ontario Power, Higgs did not

rule it out.

 

"We don't have a plan. I don't know what an operating structure might

look like, and the discussions with OPG have been [happening] for

years.

 

"But I think we need to have a partnership, and at the end of the day

we can build on that partnership. And I don't know what that looks

like."

 

Point Lepreau has been plagued by problems since a four-year,

$2.4-billion refurbishment project ended in 2012.

 

A December breakdown at the nuclear plant added another $380 million

to N.B. Power's accumulated debt, driving it to $5.3 billion and wiped

out a projected $45.7-million profit at the utility this year.

 

All possible options considered, utility says

 

In a statement, N.B. Power said "the status quo is not an option" for

the utility, which is saddled with debt and facing several other

costly refurbishments.

 

"All possible options are being considered as we lay out a path for a

very different future that will ensure we have affordable, safe and

reliable electricity for our customers and improved financial health,"

said Couture.

 

"N.B. Power has successfully utilized partnership models in the past

to help resolve long-standing issues and improve performance. This

included sharing of key talent, operating experience and industry best

practices."

 

A dam sits at the head of a body of water in winter.

 

Higgs compared a possible Ontario deal with Hydro-Quebec's role in the

proposed Mactaquac dam upgrade. (James West/The Canadian Press)

 

Higgs also pointed to agreements with other utilities, comparing a

possible Ontario Power deal with Hydro-Quebec's role in the proposed

$3-billion upgrade of the Mactaquac hydroelectric dam.

 

"We look to a nuclear operator that's much larger than us, has much

more experience than us. Are we afraid to ask? Not on your life."

Details still being discussed

 

The discussions with the Ontario utility were revealed during Question

Period in the legislature when Tracadie Liberal MLA Keith Chiasson

produced a screen image of an email sent by the Ontario utility's CEO

Ken Hartwick.

 

"As N.B. Power looks for ways to drive to drive performance and value

for New Brunswick ratepayers in the production of clean, reliable

nuclear power from [Lepreau], we are exploring what benefit may exist

from a partnership between the two companies," the email said.

 

Hartwick wrote that the details were still being discussed but Ontario

Power officials would be visiting the Lepreau plant next week.

 

"The partnership we are building with N.B. Power will be a business

relationship made in the best interest of Ontario," he said.

 

A large grouping of electrical power towers are shown in a forested area.

Higgs told reporters an agreement with Ontario Power would also help

the two provinces avoid competing with each other in the field of

small modular nuclear reactors. (Adrian Wyld/The Canadian Press)

 

In a statement to CBC News, Ontario Power spokesperson Neal Kelly

repeated some passages from the email and said any partnership would

be "made in the best interests of Ontario and New Brunswick."

 

Chiasson said he's not necessarily against the Ontario utility playing

a role at Lepreau, but the government should be transparent about it.

 

"There's nothing wrong with that," he said. "If there is negotiating

going on with OPG, we should know."

 

Green Leader David Coon said the argument that Ontario Power could

help run Lepreau better was curious because N.B. Power has justified

the salary of its vice-president nuclear, Brett Plummer, "based on his

ability to run Point Lepreau well."

 

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In 2017, N.B. Power confirmed that Plummer was being paid $500,000 US,

or about $655,000 Cdn at the time, more than the utility's CEO.

 

Higgs told reporters an agreement with Ontario Power would also help

the two provinces avoid competing with each other in the field of

next-generation small modular nuclear reactors.

 

The Ontario Power email doesn't mention small modular nuclear

reactors, but the premier said partnering with the utility would allow

for a "a pan-Canadian approach" on promoting the technology.

 

The Atlantic Loop would expand the electrical grid connections between

Quebec and New Brunswick and New Brunswick and Nova Scotia to provide

greater access to renewable electricity, like hydro from Quebec.

 

The Atlantic Loop would expand the electrical grid connections between

Quebec and New Brunswick and New Brunswick and Nova Scotia to provide

greater access to renewable electricity, like hydro from Quebec. (CBC)

 

Higgs also told reporters he welcomed measures in the federal budget

Tuesday that might make the proposed Atlantic Loop more financially

viable.

 

The plan would link electrical grids and upgrade transmission links in

the four Atlantic provinces and Quebec to allow more selling of

carbon-free hydroelectric power around the region.

 

Ottawa's budget will allow such projects to be paid for over a 30-year

timeline and make them eligible for a 15-per-cent tax credit.

 

Higgs has been hesitant about the potential cost of the project, but

said the federal policy moves could make it more affordable.

 

"I see a shift there in the federal government's philosophy, so we'll

look at the loop, at the benefits to New Brunswick and the benefits to

Atlantic Canada," he said.

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Jacques Poitras

 

Provincial Affairs reporter

 

Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New

Brunswick since 2000. He grew up in Moncton and covered Parliament in

Ottawa for the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal. He has reported on

every New Brunswick election since 1995 and won awards from the Radio

Television Digital News Association, the National Newspaper Awards and

Amnesty International. He is also the author of five non-fiction books

about New Brunswick politics and history.

 

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On 3/28/23, David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Saturday price hike for electricity in N.B. a projected 4.8 per cent

 

Changes ordered by utility board cut $50 million from proposed increase

Robert Jones · CBC News · Posted: Mar 28, 2023 3:04 PM ADT

 

A women in a suit looks off to the side.

Lori Clark was named N.B. Power's full-time president and CEO last

week on March 20, the first woman to hold the position. She tried

unsuccessfully to convince the EUB to approve the utility's full rate

request. (Jonathan Collicott/CBC)

 

New Brunswick electricity prices will be increasing by 4.8 per cent at

the end of this week, after changes ordered by the New Brunswick

Energy and Utilities Board knocked $50 million off a rate request made

by N.B. Power.

 

In a letter to the EUB, responding to a series of changes required by

the regulator following a two week hearing in February, N.B. Power's

Stephen Waycott said making alterations will lower the rate increase

from the 8.9 per cent applied for, to 5.7 per cent. An additional

rebate due to customers from another issue that also takes effect on

April 1 will further reduce new charges customers face.

 

"The combined impact … is that NB Power's in-province customers will

see an average increase in electricity rates of 4.8 percent in

2023/24," wrote Waycott, who is N.B. Power's director of corporate

compliance and regulatory affairs.

 

Every one per cent change in rates is worth just under $16 million per

year to the utility.

Two woman talk behind computers wearing business attire.

Nancy Rubin (right) led a team of three lawyers hired by J.D. Irving

Ltd. to fight N.B. Power's rate application. The group, including

Brianne Rudderham (left), forced N.B. Power to provide updated budget

numbers for next year that led to a reduced increase. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

 

For a residential customer with an annual power bill of $3,000, the

new prices will add $144 plus HST in yearly charges.  Separately, the

utilities board also approved a $1 per month increase to customers who

rent water heaters from N.B. Power, which would add to that rate

increase amount.

 

The board still needs to grant a final approval to the changes, but

that is mostly a formality. Municipal utilities in Saint John,

Edmundston and Perth Andover are expected to adopt the same percentage

increases for their own customers.

 

     J.D. Irving Ltd. and N.B. Power clash as rate hearings get underway

 

     Full 8.9% rate increase not required, N.B. Power hearing told

 

N.B. Power originally applied for an 8.9 per cent increase in its

rates in early October, hoping to have it approved for the beginning

of its next fiscal year, which begins on April 1.

 

It's application was challenged aggressively over eight days at

hearings in February, especially by its largest private sector

customer, J.D. Irving Ltd.

A red and white sign with black letters stands in front of an

indsutrial site with billowing smoke stacks.

N.B. Power burns oil to generate electricity at its Coleson Cove

generating station in Saint John. Prices for the commodity have been

coming down which has led to a reduction in N.B. Power's rate

increase. (Roger Cosman/CBC)

 

The forestry, transportation and consumer products company hired three

lawyers to fight the increase. The group successfully challenged N.B.

Power's use of stale data in the case it was making for higher prices.

 

N.B. Power had been claiming the high prices for commodities it uses

to run its largest generators would attack its bottom line in the

coming year.

 

"In a single year, the cost of fuel and purchased power necessary to

supply customers in New Brunswick has increased by $102.8 million,"

N.B. Power president Lori Clark told the hearing on its opening day.

 

"This has occurred largely due to market price increases for natural

gas, heavy fuel oil and electricity."

A close-up photo of a hydro meter on the side of a house.

All New Brunswick electricity customers are likely to see a 4.8 per

cent increase in rates beginning on Saturday. (Robert Jones/CBC)

 

But those claims were based on old prices from months earlier in June,

2022.

 

During hearings, the utility acknowledged it had fresher data

internally that showed some prices had moderated, and prospects for

exporting power had improved significantly.

 

     Final arguments set to begin over request for an 8.9% power rate

increase

 

     EUB hearing room splits on endorsing N.B. Power's rate hike

 

In a preliminary ruling two weeks ago, the EUB told the utility it

needed to use the more up-to-date numbers.

 

"The Board is not satisfied that the rates, as applied for, are just

and reasonable," it wrote in demanding changes.

 

"NB Power is ordered to refile its 2023/2024 test year budget … and

the resulting rates."

 

The new calculations show that despite losing one third of the

requested rate increase, N.B. Power's projected profit for the coming

year has more than doubled to $30 million by using the new figures.

 

N.B. Power did not immediately respond to a request for comment about

the changes.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR

Robert Jones

 

Reporter

 

Robert Jones has been a reporter and producer with CBC New Brunswick

since 1990. His investigative reports on petroleum pricing in New

Brunswick won several regional and national awards and led to the

adoption of price regulation in 2006.

 

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David Amos

I am an Intervener in this matter and I have received no notice of this.

 
 
 

Saturday price hike for electricity in N.B. a projected 4.8 per cent

Changes ordered by utility board cut $50 million from proposed increase

In a letter to the EUB, responding to a series of changes required by the regulator following a two week hearing in February, N.B. Power's Stephen Waycott said making alterations will lower the rate increase from the 8.9 per cent applied for, to 5.7 per cent. An additional rebate due to customers from another issue that also takes effect on April 1 will further reduce new charges customers face.

"The combined impact … is that NB Power's in-province customers will see an average increase in electricity rates of 4.8 percent in 2023/24," wrote Waycott, who is N.B. Power's director of corporate compliance and regulatory affairs.

Every one per cent change in rates is worth just under $16 million per year to the utility. 

Two woman talk behind computers wearing business attire. Nancy Rubin (right) led a team of three lawyers hired by J.D. Irving Ltd. to fight N.B. Power's rate application. The group, including Brianne Rudderham (left), forced N.B. Power to provide updated budget numbers for next year that led to a reduced increase. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

For a residential customer with an annual power bill of $3,000, the new prices will add $144 plus HST in yearly charges.  Separately, the utilities board also approved a $1 per month increase to customers who rent water heaters from N.B. Power, which would add to that rate increase amount.

The board still needs to grant a final approval to the changes, but that is mostly a formality. Municipal utilities in Saint John, Edmundston and Perth Andover are expected to adopt the same percentage increases for their own customers.

N.B. Power originally applied for an 8.9 per cent increase in its rates in early October, hoping to have it approved for the beginning of its next fiscal year, which begins on April 1.   

It's application was challenged aggressively over eight days at hearings in February, especially by its largest private sector customer, J.D. Irving Ltd.   

A red and white sign with black letters stands in front of an indsutrial site with billowing smoke stacks. N.B. Power burns oil to generate electricity at its Coleson Cove generating station in Saint John. Prices for the commodity have been coming down which has led to a reduction in N.B. Power's rate increase. (Roger Cosman/CBC)

The forestry, transportation and consumer products company hired three lawyers to fight the increase. The group successfully challenged N.B. Power's use of stale data in the case it was making for higher prices.

N.B. Power had been claiming the high prices for commodities it uses to run its largest generators would attack its bottom line in the coming year. 

"In a single year, the cost of fuel and purchased power necessary to supply customers in New Brunswick has increased by $102.8 million," N.B. Power president Lori Clark told the hearing on its opening day.

"This has occurred largely due to market price increases for natural gas, heavy fuel oil and electricity."

A close-up photo of a hydro meter on the side of a house.  All New Brunswick electricity customers are likely to see a 4.8 per cent increase in rates beginning on Saturday. (Robert Jones/CBC)

But those claims were based on old prices from months earlier in June, 2022.

During hearings, the utility acknowledged it had fresher data internally that showed some prices had moderated, and prospects for exporting power had improved significantly.

In a preliminary ruling two weeks ago, the EUB told the utility it needed to use the more up-to-date numbers. 

"The Board is not satisfied that the rates, as applied for, are just and reasonable," it wrote in demanding changes.

"NB Power is ordered to refile its 2023/2024 test year budget … and the resulting rates." 

The new calculations show that despite losing one third of the requested rate increase, N.B. Power's projected profit for the coming year has more than doubled to $30 million by using the new figures.

N.B. Power did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the changes.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR


Robert Jones

Reporter

Robert Jones has been a reporter and producer with CBC New Brunswick since 1990. His investigative reports on petroleum pricing in New Brunswick won several regional and national awards and led to the adoption of price regulation in 2006.

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David Amos
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David Amos
I am an Intervener in this matter and I have received no notice of this.  
 
 
Al Clark
Reply to David Amos
live long and prosper
 
 
Chris Waddell
Reply to David Amos
What I love about your posts, such great comedy! Thank you David, your posts are always so very entertaining.  
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to Chris Waddell
Welcome to the circus you are paying for  
 
 
David Amos 

Reply to Al Clark
I wonder if your buddy Chrissy Baby enjoys my blog as much as you do  
 
 
Ben Haroldson
Reply to David Amos
Thanks for that. 
 
 
Ben Haroldson 
Reply to Ben Haroldson
The intervenorship i mean
 
 
Don Corey 
Reply to David Amos
Your positive contributions as an intervener are much appreciated. Thanks for speaking up for the average homeowner! 
 
 
 




Don Corey 
I find it strange that Mr. Jones never acknowledges the fact that Mr. David Amos is a public intervenor on the board.  
 
 
Michael Cain 
Reply to Don Corey 
Must be in his blog. Never saw him there.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Roy Kirk
I know that one is supposed to be able to opt out of NB powers so-called smart meter initiative, but for the life of me I cannot find a place on their website where I can tell them I want to opt out. It's all bumph promoting their initiative. Does anyone know where to go to opt out? 
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to Roy Kirk
Ask your MLA 
 
 
Ben Haroldson 
Reply to Roy Kirk
Canadian gov't both prov and fed are so far behind on software, that it's unsafe. 
 
 
Michel David Letourneau
Reply to Roy Kirk
Nothing about NB Power is smart! 


Michael Cain  
Reply to Roy Kirk
NB Power has every right to replace their meters; nothing to worry about.
 
 
Dianne MacPherson
Reply to Michael Cain   
They won't be replacing MINE without a fight.

We do still live in a free Country, don't we ??

No way will I allow NB Power to tell me when

I can use my appliances.

Don't get me wrong, I do everything I can to

'help' NB Power , I follow the 'rule' of using Energy

in the hours they suggest and I've invested

in a Heat Pump.

 
Rosco holt 
Reply to Michael Cain
Most places that has smart meters got rid of them.  
 
 
Michael Cain  
Reply to Dianne MacPherson
NB Power does not control when you can use appliances. It is the same meter but can be read wirelessly.  
 
 
Michael Cain  
Reply to Rosco holt  
That is all hearsay; it's a non issue. 
 
 
Roy Kirk
Reply to Michael Cain
Customers have the right to opt out too. 
 
 
Roy Kirk
Reply to Michael Cain
No, actually, that would be an AMR meter or a remote reading meter. The so-called 'smart' meters provide much more detailed information and include provision for wireless interruption of supply.
 
 
Michael Cain  
Reply to Roy Kirk
The only concern people have is the privacy issue. According to NB Power, it allows two-way communication, over a secure network, giving you the information you need to see and manage your energy use. Smart meters will send notices to NB Power when the power is out. 
 
 
Michael Cain  
Reply to Roy Kirk 
Suggest asking NB Power; the full intention is to install big time this year.  
 
 
Roy Kirk
Reply to Michael Cain 
Their website acknowledges that customers have the right to opt out but does not provide any mechanism for them to do so. Leaving them to phone I guess. In the spirit of not making it too easy for their customer to get the service that they want. 
 
 
Roy Kirk
Reply to Michael Cain 
Do you have evidence that that is people's only concern. It's not really at the core of my concern. So I'm interested to know the factual basis of your opinion. My own concern relates more to the security of their network, which I will not take for granted. No matter what their website says. 
 
 
Roy Kirk
Reply to Roy Kirk  
 
 
Michael Cain  
Reply to Roy Kirk
I just checked the NB Power site and googled; most is plain ignorance as to what it is about. Privacy in the sense that big brother gets info, etc. 
 
 
Michael Cain  
Reply to Roy Kirk
I could not find that, but opting out defeats the purpose of the service yo want.

 
 

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