CBC Shows its nasty arse again in support of their beloved Prime Minister Trudeau "The Younger"

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From: Maryam.Monsef@parl.gc.ca
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2017 16:55:35 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: YO Mr Trump Its interesting that my comments are still rolling while the other CBC website about Trudeau "The Younger" has been closed for hours
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From: maxime.bernier@parl.gc.ca
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2017 16:55:35 +0000
Subject: Réponse automatique : YO Mr Trump Its interesting that my comments are still rolling while the other CBC website about Trudeau "The Younger" has been closed for hours
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Bonjour,

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Joyeuses Fêtes à toutes et tous!


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From: David Amos
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2017 12:55:30 -0400
Subject: YO Mr Trump Its interesting that my comments are still rolling while the other CBC website about Trudeau "The Younger" has been closed for hours
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/trudeau-new-years-message-1.3917988

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/grenier-federal-politicians-2017-1.3898004

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1815 Comments 
and many other comments that were deleted and or blocked
However I can only know what CBC did with mean old me

Elma Fayerrly

Leaving the comment sections open for 2 days now? When did that start?

David Raymond Amos

@Elma Fayerrly Since I raised Hell yesterday with Trudeau "The Younger" Hubby Lacroix and Minister Joly and their many lawyers

Brian Oliver O'Niell

Justin does not know what he is doing. Cap and trade, etc., is childish nonsense. Man oh man, you gotta be rich, elite and privileged to just think like that. This he does not understand. Dangerously immature - a child in a mans body.

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David Raymond Amos

@Brian Oliver O'Niell How do you explain all the greedy grown ups who support him and write fat cheques?

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David Raymond Amos

@David Raymond Amos Hmmm Considering all the nasty comment posted by Harper supporters what the Hell was wrong with that comment?

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David Raymond Amos

@Brian Oliver O'Niell You Must be somebody special to Hubby Lacroix EH?

 

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David Raymond Amos

@Brian Oliver O'Niell Tell your buddies Hubby Lacroix and his many minions thanks for proving my point and keeping the comment section open so long that I could rub it in.

Damien Johnston

We can be certain if o'leary becomes leader of the reformers they will be standing in opposition for many years to come.

Pat Ferraro

@Damien Johnston - And so they said the same about Mr. Trump. 2017 will be an interesting year.

Mike Trahan

@Pat Ferraro This is not the USA

Vladimir Smejkal

@Damien Johnston
With him, Cons might even lose their official opposition status..Go O'Leary!

reggie mantle

@Damien Johnston
Yup, just like trump had no chance either, at least according to the arrogant, leftist media. But according to the people, the people who are seriously fed up with leftie elitism, well....that was a bit of different story now wasn't it.

Peter Manchak

@Vladimir Smejkal New gig at CBC? No more NP?

Damien Johnston

You forget Reggie and Pat, Clinton won the popular vote, it is the outdated electoral college, that in some states the members were mandated to side with the party, that won the office.
trump was installed by a crooked system!

Jack Blackstone

@Damien Johnston
This the same system you swore on your mothers grave wasn't rigged just a few days before the election?Put out a press release when you change your mind.

Damien Johnston

@Jack Blackstone
I did no such thing!

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David Raymond Amos

@Jack Blackstone Now that is and interesting exchange with @Damien Johnston One of you is not truthful

David Raymond Amos

@Vladimir Smejkal I second that Go O'Leary!

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David Raymond Amos

@Peter Manchak I think so because CBC not only blocked but deleted my entire comment to Vladimir Smejkal

  

James Watson

Well Trump stayed in his country for the holidays why can't our PM? Does Trump love the USA more than Justin loves Canada?

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David Raymond Amos

@James Watson Who cares where anyone spends their Xmass vacation? (Excepting of course nosey bitchy Conservatives)

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David Raymond Amos

@David Raymond Amos Interesting comment for CBC to block considering the fact that CBC published in the top comment thread stating that my earmuffs are too tight N'esy Pas Hubby Lacoix?

Robert Thornton

Only a year in office and Trudeau is already being investigated on multiple counts of ethics violations. It took Chretien years to get to that level. Trudeau should resign in disgrace. And considering his contemptible claim of the fundraisers being to "promote the middle class" he should give his resignation on his knees begging the forgiveness of all the Canadians who voted for him before he commits more heinous offences in 2017.

Jim Masters

@Robert Thornton
3 comments same as the other day all posted in 1 minute you could not type that fast so?

artblaze

@Jim Masters ......He's posing as three or more different people! Many of them are! It's ridiculous!

Peter Manchak

@ artblaze Are you upset as that is a Liberal thing??

artblaze

@Peter Manchak FYI Harper hired 3900 of them! Should I dig up the url?

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David Raymond Amos

@ artblaze "He's posing as three or more different people! Many of them are! It's ridiculous!"

Ask yourself why CBC supports it

David Raymond Amos

@Jim Masters I can help but wonder if Hubby Lacroix's minions compared this comment section to my blog about it yet

William Jones 

Kellie Leitch is miles above the slow speaking slow mental capacity Trudeau. She is a highly educated;

She graduated from Queen's University in 1991 with an undergraduate degree.[6] She earned her MD from the University of Toronto in 1994, MBA from Dalhousie University in 1998, and completed the Orthopaedic Surgery Residency Program in 2001 at the University of Toronto. She became a fellow of clinical paediatric orthopaedics at the Children's Hospital of Los Angeles/University of Southern California in 2002.[7]
Leitch used to teach at the University of Western Ontario, where she served as the assistant dean of external affairs at the Schulich School of Medicine and Dentistry, and the chair of paediatric surgery at the Children's Hospital of Western Ontario.
She was an orthopaedic pediatric surgeon at SickKids Hospital for one year before pursuing a career in politics. Leitch is also an associate professor at the University of Toronto.

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David Raymond Amos

@Laurie Clark "Kellie Leitch is miles above the slow speaking slow mental capacity Trudeau. She is a highly educated"

I agree but it does not follow that Leitch is even remotely ethical. If she were she would have stayed out of the wickedly dirty business of politicking and stuck to the Hippocratic Oath "Do No Harm" I know for a fact Leitch as a parliamentarian has ignored the Oath to the Queen which includes "Uphold the Law" etc

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David Raymond Amos

@Laurie Clark You should ask CBC why they blocked my response to you

David Raymond Amos

@Mike White "Being rejected at the ballot box is perfectly democratic."

I agree and that is what I told the ERRE Committee in no uncertain terms

David Raymond Amos

@John Brown Harper didn't win Iggy lost as Layton split the vote

C Martyn Tyntof

@John Brown The Harper government cheated in every election:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/conservative-party-fined-for-breaking-election-laws-1.1076877
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2013/05/24/judge-finds-smoking-gun-in-robocalls-scandal-but-who-pulled-the-trigger/
CBC: peter-penashue-quits-over-campaign-donations-1.1335297
National Post: dean-del-mastro-charged-under-the-canada-elections-act/
CBC: prosecution-service-to-challenge-michael-sona-s-sentence-1.2874032
National Post: elections-canada-calls-for-crackdown-on-deceptive-political-phone-calls/
Globe and Mail: tory-election-allegations-illegal-not-administrative-prosecutor-says/article568627/
CBC: david-del-mastro-cousin-of-ontario-mp-charged-in-election-probe-1.2785580

David Raymond Amos

@C Martyn Tyntof Why are you ignoring me and burying my comments as well?

Perhaps you should Google your name and mine sometime soon?

Hugh Minet

Just five? There is a parliament full of politicians who are wasting tax dollars. The Liberals are tripping over their hair trying to spend tax dollars and giving billions to foreigners here in Canada and off shore.

David Raymond Amos

@Hugh Minet Methinks the CBC should publish who are the top five bureaucrats to keep our eyes on starting with the Clerk of the Privy Council the beancounter I call Mikey Baby

http://www.clerk.gc.ca/eng/feature.asp?pageId=258

Thomas Perry

Watch them for what?

Watch them do whatever they want?
Watch no accountability?

Watch what CBC?

David Raymond Amos

@Thomas Perry Lets have fun watching CBC prove to us just how partisan they truly are

David Raymond Amos

@Robbie Adams "I still want that seat in the UN. What do I have to do to get it?"

I doubt any amount of money will buy that seat these days now that Obama is attacking his former buddies.

Robbie Adams

@Bob Forward ,,"""Obviously foreign policy is not your strong point."""

And your strong point would be "Common sense""

C Martyn Tyntof

@Robbie Adams Harper's mishandling of Foreign Affairs knew no bounds.
He got us kicked off the UN Security Council.
He became the first government in the history of the Commonwealth to be charged with Contempt of Parliament, over his refusal to disclose costs for Parliamentary votes
He tried to push through a European trade deal that would give corporations the power to sue countries for loss of profit due to environmental and human rights laws.
He locked himself in the bathroom in Brazil because he didn't get his way during international meetings (this was before the closet incident).
He blocked NAFTA scrutiny of environmental effects of the tar sands
He gave government deals worth millions to his Chief of Staff Nigel Wright's business partners (Barrick Gold and Lockheed Martin).
He spent $1.2 billion on the three-day G8/G20 summit, many times what other host countries spend
He refused India's offer of armoured cars reserved for dignitaries for his trip to India, and instead spent more than $1 Million of taxpayer dollars to ship armoured cars for himself from Canada.
He wouldn't let the International Criminal Court investigate Israel for war crimes.
He used the Canadian spy agency to spy on mining companies in foreign countries for corporate interests
He cut aid to the poorest countries in the world, cutting aid to Africa in half before eventually freezing all foreign aid in 2010.

C Martyn Tyntof

@John Brown Harper's Foreign Affairs failures (continued):
He lost our North Pole bid because he didn't submit the claim within the 10-yr deadline.
He got our military kicked out of the UAE.
His Foreign Affairs Parliamentary Secretary had an illicit affair with a Chinese spy, and is still an MP (Bob Dechert).
He made his personal bodyguard the ambassador to Jordan and Iraq.
He refused to vote for a United Nations bill that condemned the world wide spread of fascism.
Our international reputation has gone down the tubes since 2006.http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/canada-s-reputation-worsens-global-poll-1.892750
He cut off Canada's diplomatic relationship with Iran when other countries were holding talks with them. Even the USA and UK still have embassies, but Harper closed ours.
He lost most of Canada’s $563M in exports to Russia after picking a fight with them over Ukraine.
He snubbed the Copenhagen Accord greenhouse gas emissions reduction target and instead plans to quadruple emissions by 2030.
He gave $1-million in federal money to a social hall project submitted by his Foreign Minister Baird's personal rabbi.
He turned our international reputation from 'Peacekeeper' to 'Torture-Giver' by allowing Afghan detainees to be knowingly handed over to be tortured.

David Raymond Amos

@C Martyn Tyntof

"He used the Canadian spy agency to spy on mining companies in foreign countries for corporate interests"

Who do you think informed the President of Brazil about that fact?

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David Raymond Amos

@C Martyn Tyntof "He locked himself in the bathroom in Brazil because he didn't get his way during international meetings"mos

Google "David Amos Brazilian Tweets"

If you did then now you know the reason for the incident you mentioned above

Bob Gillies

@Richard Sharp
"Harper's incompetence lost Canada its routinely won Security Council seat in 2010, the first time we've lost a bid in seven tries."

Nope, unlike Trudeau, Harper refused to "buy" an observation seat at the round table controlled by the big 5.

"The Lib government isn't telling Canadians there is no money for health care improvements"
Hogwash.
Trudeau gave the provinces a "take it or leave it" proposal not much different than what Harper offered. He did add a wrinkle of limited ...

David Raymond Amos @Bob Gillies

"Nope, unlike Trudeau, Harper refused to "buy" an observation seat at the round table controlled by the big 5."

Your word Hogwash.

The UN embarrassed the Hell out of Harper and Baird everybody and his dog knows that.

"Trudeau gave the provinces a "take it or leave it" proposal not much different than what Harper offered. He did add a wrinkle of limited "targeted" funding but Trudeau picked the "priorities", not the provinces who are responsible for health care"

Yes and NO the Provinces are responsible for Health Care (except mental Heath) Remember the Board Harper created based in Calgary? However the provinces are entitled to the money back from the Feds because all taxes are sourced from the provinces in the first place.

Furthermore the Feds are only responsible for Foreign Affairs (Harper and his minions embarrassed world wide in the regard Whereas Trudeau "The Younger" is well regarded by his questionable world wide cohorts)

The Fed also oversee the Income Tax Man, Sales Tax, CPP UNemploment insurance, CBC, CSIS, the Military, the Para Military Crown Corp known as the RCMP, Canada Border Services, Service Canada, Federal Court, the Supreme Court and our Food inspection etc.

However the Queen oversees everything both Federally and Provincially and she is the Lady I am suing in Federal Court right now.

David Raymond Amos

@Bob Gillies BTW I truly do believe that this is an important debate that is still ongoing within a Crown Corp website owned by the taxpayer and now overseen by a questionable Liberal mandate.

We are citizens of a purportedly profound democracy and I truly do believe in Free Speech particularly when it comes to politicking.

There are folks from all party stripes commenting in here and at least one Independent politician (Namely Mean Old Me) Methinks that it is great that all parties are making their two bits worth known.

I am grateful that CBC has left this comment section open longer than the usual 24 hours but what grates on my nerves is how many comments of mine have been blocked for no legal reason whatsoever. I can only imagine how many other citizens have been blocked as well.

Need I say shame on CBC and one lawyer in particular? We all know he was a Harper appointee I call him Hubby Baby Lacroix N'esy Pas Minister Joly and Prime minister Trudeau "The Younger" ???

Gord Gray

@JohnColford RE: "Mr. Trudeau makes it so easy for a Kevin O'Leary type candidate to win the next election"

I really hope you are wrong. We are not the US. We do not have the same issues or the same system. If someone like O'Leary gets in, then it means that Canadians bought in to the fear and division propaganda.

David Raymond Amos

@Gord Gray Even Kevin O'Leary knows he does not have a prayer He is not THAT dumb

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David Raymond Amos

@Gord Gray It appears that Kevin O'Leary's fans are having fun attacking us and CBC is blocking my responses Are they doing the same to you?

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David Raymond Amos

@David Raymond Amos Lest we forget that Kevin O'Leary was big star on CBC when Harper was in power and he appointed you to be the boss of CBC N'esy Pas Hubby Lacriox?

Gord Gray

@David Raymond Amos
If the Conservatives find a credible leader with realistic evidence based policies, then they might have a shot at defeating Trudeau. However, based on the Con leadership race so far, that does not appear likely.

David Raymond Amos

@Gord Gray Methinks that Mikey Chong is their only hope but he has a very sneaky man from New Brunswick on his team who will no doubt do him in for the benefit of somebody else

Jake Kirn

@Colin Fidor it is too bad you are not aware of social media enough to understand how it works let me explain a popular figure goes out into the world and folks that love and admire them ASK for a pic WITH said popular person who if they are friendly ( SUNNY) says SURE and boom a selfie with the person and the owner of the camera.

Jake Kirn

@R. Gabrielle Berry another person who has no idea how selfies work when someone who has a camera in hand ASKS for a pic w the PM he GLADLY says yes then the owner takes a pic and well there is a selfie with the PM do try to keep up.

David Raymond Amos

@Jake Kirn I for one am very aware of social media In fact it is one of my fortes. For instance I diced with the front runner Howard Dean's spindoctors way back in 2003 when my Clan's Yankee Senator John Kerry, Hillary Clinton and host of others wanted to be the Democratic nominee for President and Obama was just another unknown State Senator

David Raymond Amos

@Jake Kirn BTW I don't do selfies EVER and people seldom take pictures of me. with one notable recent exception during the election of the 42nd Parliament.

Perhaps you should try to keep up. Google "CBC Fundy Royal" then compare its article about the middle class to what you see when you Google "Fundy Royal Debate"

JOHN MCTAGGART

@Colin Fidor

That's just silly!

JOHN MCTAGGART

@Ryder Pures

Hardly.

JOHN MCTAGGART

@John Dirlik

Not his fault NONE wanted to with the other guy.

David Raymond Amos

@JOHN MCTAGGART NOPE what is silly is Troll trying to bury other people's comments.

Food for thought though how many other people do you think are wise to your silly game?

 

Gord Gray

@Bryan Cassidy

Fear and Division? Really?

I could buy that you dislike the Liberal policies, but they have a clear mandate to deliver as many of their election promises as they can, so acting on them cannot be considered divisive..

Unlike Harper, I see no statements coming from the Government that are designed to heighten fear.

I suspect that you are spreading misinformation with these labels. Much like Harper did with the "Fair Elections Act" that made elections less fair.

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David Raymond Amos

@Bryan Cassidy That begs the obvious question did your research inform you as to who I am?

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David Raymond Amos

@Bryan Cassidy FYI I did respond to you but CBC blocked me

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David Raymond Amos

@David Raymond Amos Oh My My

Methinks I must ask the lawyers Hubby Lacroix and Minister Joly Why CBC blocks all my responses to @Bryan Cassidy

N'esy Pas Mr Prime Minister Trudeau "The Younger" ????

Alan Cane

They should have a contest where Canadians have to guess. "Where's Trudeau?" in the world. Maybe award a week's holiday in the prairie town of your choice.

Bob Peterson

@Alan Cane
How to make a week seem like a month ?

Alan Cane

@Bob Peterson

Time has certainly slowed down in general since Trudeau got in.

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David Raymond Amos

@Bob Peterson Now Now be nice Bobby

David Raymond Amos

@Bob Peterson Too Too Funny that you can't get my joke

David Raymond Amos

@Gord Gray You mean the "UNFair Elections Act" don't you?

David Raymond Amos

@Gord Gray Re Harper's "UNFair Elections Act"

Perhaps you should Google CBC Fundy Royal sometime soon

Andrew Lamb

@Bryan Cassidy that's because you refuse to acknowledge the fear, division uncertainty and more deficit provided by the "best Prime Minister". Your unhappiness is just a product or your own making, because you thought that people would be happy swallowing that which was put upon them.

Dave Walton

@David Raymond Amos Do you not know the CBC is run by the liberals . You cant believe a word they write if it is not ibn favor of the liberal party

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David Raymond Amos

@Dave Walton Who appointed the lawyer Hubby Lacroix the current boss of the CBC???

David Raymond Amos

@Dave Walton Seems that CBC will not allow me to even respond to your question with an obvious answer EH?

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David Raymond Amos

@Dave Walton Harper did the same many times. As your friend David Dingwell the Liebrano lawyer from Nova Scotia said not so long ago when he billed us for his bubble gum. You are entitled to your entitlements. N'esy Pas Mr Prime Minister Trudeau "The Younger"?

David Raymond Amos

@Dave Walton Oh my seems that you are another favourite of CBC 's moderators EH?

Dave Walton

@Gord Gray Christ the last thing we need is O'Leary He is a Liberal through and through . Just listen to him and the fact that he has aligned himself with one off the worst premiers Ontario has ever had in Mike Harris

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David Raymond Amos

@Dave Walton Why do the CBC moderators allow you to swear and often many Christians but block me when you ask me a question?

David Raymond Amos

@David Raymond Amos Yo Hubby LaCriox Why is that I was not surprised that your malicious mindless moderators blocked my last comment to Dave Walton but you do know you will receive it within an email as well N'esy Pas?

BTW I already blogged it

Dave Walton

@Hank Hietala Why he is away on your dime with his entourage not his
  


Dr. Lyle Rossiter

Back in march 2 Justins were visiting Ottawa. One, a immature tattooed drugged up wannabee rock star who wanted to be accepted by adults but only had support from adolescent minded groupies, the other was from London Ontario and was releasing his 4th album .

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Andrew Farmer

C'mon, if people can't see the humour in that then they just ain't trying.

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David Raymond Amos

@Dr. Lyle Rossiter Is that your idea of witty?

David Raymond Amos

@Andrew Farmer CBC found no humour in my response to one of their favourite Trolls

James Watson

You know some vulgar cads accused Melania Trump of being a trophy wife thus impugning Donald Trump's values - but, what does that say about Canadians who appear to have a have a trophy PM?

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David Raymond Amos

@James Watson Cheap shot from the peanut gallery

David Raymond Amos

@James Watson WOW CBC is on quite a roll tonight blocking and deleting comments for the benefit of their pals EH?

Kent Milner

@James Watson - We can be sure that the foreign location is five star all the way. It's good to be the King.

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David Raymond Amos

@Kent Milner Are we a bit jealous?

David Raymond Amos

@Kent Milner Tell your buddies in CBC I said Hey will ya?

Oliver Welch

Instead of Trudeau ringing Canada's 150th New Year in Ottawa he is out of country on yet another vacation. So much for your warm fuzzy feeling you get when you think of Trudeau and his love of Canada.......pathetic as always.

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David Raymond Amos

@Oliver Welch You cons are being a little redundant don't ya think?

David Raymond Amos

@Oliver Welch Do you know the lawyer Hubby Lacoix?

Richard Sharp

This is the year where we'll see electoral reform and marijuana legalization take shape, along with new defence and security policies arising from reviews still under way. C-51 will finally be rolled back and, hopefully, Canada will rid itself of current blind loyalties to the USA, NATO and Israel.

Charles Martel

@Richard Sharp

I have zero loyalty to the Liberal Party. I don't care for treasonous people.

David Raymond Amos

@Richard Sharp "hopefully, Canada will rid itself of current blind loyalties to the USA, NATO and Israel."

I hope so too

David Raymond Amos

@Robert Loblaw "I doubt the premise that Putin's Russia is a threat to global peace and security."

I agree Anyone reading the news lately should be greatly concerned about what Obama is up to in the next few weeks

Eric Slyden

@Kath Ayres

Oh look Another western terror apologist.

Eric Slyden

@David Raymond Amos

I don't...because im not a terror apologist

David Raymond Amos

@Eric Slyden Are you saying that I am?

Dr. Lyle Rossiter

@Darby Boon.. 2 liberal owned polls give trudeau a 54% approval with liberals at 41% in DEC. A 10% drop in the polls in one month. Those numbers were averages from 2 months ago, with the liberal bias forum research just calling liberal ridings

David Raymond Amos

@Dr. Lyle Rossiter FYI Éric Grenie the pollster who wrote this article now works for CBC hence the Liebranos blocked me in Twitter years ago. Trust that I am enjoying busting him in front of his friends

 

Darby Boon

@Dr. Lyle Rossiter - "Those numbers were averages from 2 months ago, with the liberal bias forum research just calling liberal ridings"

Polls can't be trusted, we've seen this over and over. But for some reason polls are still the backbone of any Liberal argument.

David Raymond Amos

@Darby Boon You do have a point about carbon tax but it seems to mean old me that you have forgotten a lot of nasty things that happened to Canadains under Harper's mandates N'esy Pas?

 

John Brown

@Mark O'Brien You won't learn much from other liberal propaganda. Go into Governments of Canada and keep reading for days ,then you'll learn something.

David Raymond Amos

@John Brown Propaganda is an interesting word for you to employ in light of the fact that Harper was the master of it in Canada

Shan Dalamani

@Oliver Welch

What "4 years"? Are you posting from the year 2019?

David Raymond Amos @Shan Dalamani For the record I am proving byway of a CROWN Corp owned by my fellow Canadian taxpayers that the desperate Fake Left Yankee's false claim about Social Media containing Fake News supported by Russians is blatantly ridiculous and indeed very comical.

The Corporate Media south of the 49th would never promote such nonsense if their beloved Hillary Clinton had been elected. What concerns me with regards to CBC right now is why are they supporting such obvious BS mere weeks before Trump takes his oath of office??? 

C Martyn Tyntof 

@Gordon MacFarlane The Harper government cheated in every election:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/conservative-party-fined-for-breaking-election-laws-1.1076877
 
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2013/05/24/judge-finds-smoking-gun-in-robocalls-scandal-but-who-pulled-the-trigger/
 
CBC: peter-penashue-quits-over-campaign-donations-1.1335297

National Post: dean-del-mastro-charged-under-the-canada-elections-act/

CBC: prosecution-service-to-challenge-michael-sona-s-sentence-1.2874032

National Post: elections-canada-calls-for-crackdown-on-deceptive-political-phone-calls/

Globe and Mail: tory-election-allegations-illegal-not-administrative-prosecutor-says/article568627/

CBC: david-del-mastro-cousin-of-ontario-mp-charged-in-election-probe-1.2785580

David Raymond Amos

@C Martyn Tyntof For the record if the RCMP or any political party or candidate I contacted and or debated during the election of the 42nd Parliament were remotely ethical they would have sided with me in a heartbeat.

If Prime Minister Trudeau "The Younger" had read paragraph 83 of my lawsuit he would be shocked even today. For the record I received a very predicable response from the CROWN three days before polling day and dealt with it quite well even if I do say so myself.

The aforesaid lawsuit has been before the Federal Court since September of 2015 and if the CROWN has it way I will be putting it before the Supreme Court of Canada before my 65th birthday in July.

Any Canadian or anyone else can query the docket of the Federal Court of Canada with my name to check my work and consider protecting their own rights and interests just as I have done

Stan Cox

Why is the story about a law needed to require the Canadian government help to Canadians inappropriately detained abroad closed after only 178 comments??

David Raymond Amos

@Stan Cox Good Question

David Raymond Amos @Stan Cox FYI After I ran in the election of the 38th Parliament in 2004 and just before Georgey Boy Bush got reelected I was falsely imprisoned in solitary confinement of a Boston jail without bail under the charges of "Other"

When DEFAIT sent a Consulate officer and and a member of the RCMP to visit me I asked them a lot of questions then gave them a letter I had just received from the Governor General before I was imprisoned and dismissed them and proudly went back to the cell.

The Yankee Deputy Sheriff who was escorting me that day and two other Deputies later visited me in my cell in the middle of the night. The Yankees asked me who the Hell I was and what the Hell did I do In return I asked them had they ever met a political prisoner before. When they said no. I said I was glad they asked and were honest with me. So I took an hour or so filling them in and now they are my witnesses

David Kane

Justin Trudeau carries his party more than most leaders. He is hyper-present

You must mean hyper-present, everywhere but in Canada, as he hands out billions to non Canadians

Vanda Pietrantonio

@David Kane That was very clever.

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David Raymond Amos

@David Kane Methinks if Mr Prime Minister Trudeau "The Younger" and his handler the Proud Maritimer Mr Butts were truly clever they would pass me a few bucks and settle with me in confidence before Trump gets sworn in. N'esy Pas Hubby Lacroix and Minister Joly? (Spelling now corrected)

David Raymond Amos

@David Raymond Amos Methinks I goofed the spelling bigtime that time. Such is the way of being old and faced with multi tasking on an old laptop with a screen that is rather hard for anyone to read N'esy Pas Hubby Lacroix?

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David Raymond Amos

@David Raymond Amos Too funny that CBC blocked the comment so that folks can't check my spelling Nesy Pas?

BTW did your boss Hubby Lacriox notify anyone yet about the email I sent while multi tasking?

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David Raymond Amos

@David Raymond Amos Too Too Funny that CBC blocked that comment Eh Hubby Lacriox and Minister Joly.

If your mindless moderators bother to Google my name and that of Julian Assange they will see that he and Birgitta jonsdottir not the only hackers on the planet and that I knew both of them BEFORE they became famous. More importantly everybody in the know knows I busted Assange in front of his friends before Jonsdottir released the famous video out of Iceland. For the record Assange's friends are definitely not Russians. They are in fact Yankees working for George Soros et al

David Raymond Amos 

@David Raymond Amos FYI my joke about Mr Duck's name was deliberate. I needed to know something and CBC obliged me. Thank you for that.

That said It seems that I must ask the bosses Hubby Lacriox, Minister Joly and their many lawyers the obvious questions again.

Why do the CBC moderators allow people to call me David Anus etc within the CBC comments sections or attack the Prime Minister's name and reputation but their friend Mr Duck is off limits to minor pun?

More importantly has the CBC lawyer ever heard of Section 300 of the Canadian Criminal Code?

Maurice O'brien

The main question is, will Trudeau continue to circle the globe handing out billions of Canadian tax dollars in search of a UN security council seat, all the while telling Canadians that there just isn't any money to improve our health care system.

David Raymond Amos

@Maurice O'brien Great rhetorical question. Good luck getting anyone to answer it if you truly thought any poltician would.

Jim Masters

@Maurice O'brien desperation is all I am reading post some facts
Like the PMO was the first in history to spend money ?????

David Raymond Amos

@Jim Masters FYI I post facts all the time but CBC blocks them Go Figure EH?

Earl Sargent

@Rick Gibeault Is that the reason Martin cancelled health care transfer payments to the provinces so he could attempt to balance his books prior to an election?

David Raymond Amos

@Earl Sargent Don't forget our money that Martin took from CPP and Unemployment Insurance as well

reggie mantle

@David Raymond Amos
Time to move past Harper, bud. We voted him out, remember? Whatever he did is absolutely not going to be accepted as an excuse for trudeau's shortcomings.

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David Raymond Amos

@reggie mantle Harper who???

FYI As CBC well knows but won't admit I ran for public office FIVE times as an Independent 3 time federally and twice provincially.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276

I did so because I was tried of all the lies and talk of integrity. Trust that I do not support any political PARTY not just their leaders be they Harper or Trudeau or anyone else.

The first two times I ran was for a seat in the 38th and 39th Parliaments was against Liebrano mandates while Trudeau "The Younger" was just another trust fund baby to mean old me.

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David Raymond Amos @reggie mantle BTW In the nineties the Liebranos deleted my Social Insurance Number (Try collecting your CPP without it) To rub salt in the wound in 2000 the Liebranos changed the Election Act and it would not allow me to vote.

At least Trudeau "The Younger" just fixed the voting problem and I no longer need a SIN because i managed to collect my CPP after a 2 year battle with the Feds under Harper about MY money. The Feds only gave up the fight after the writ was dropped in 2015 and my name was on another ballot 

 

David Raymond Amos

@reggie mantle You must be somebody pretty special to Hubby Lacriox CBC just blocked both of my responses to you

R. Gabrielle Berry @Maurice O'brien

I agree with your comment, but the most insidious thing that Justin Trudeau has done to wound Canadians is NOTHING.
He knows that in 1974, his father Pierre E. Trudeau stopped borrowing from our public Bank of Canada, launching the country on a deficit path that by 2014 saw interest payments to private lenders top @ $2 TRILLION. All this money into the nonproductive coiffures of private lenders
He knows that the escalating interest payments have meant escalating taxes; he has done NOTHING to restore the use of the Bank of Canada to its original mandate. That mandate includes making virtually interest free loans to the municipal, provincial, & federal governments for human capital expenditures which would include education and the health care system (to which you refer) + other social services and/or infrastructure expenditures.

David Raymond Amos

@R. Gabrielle Berry You are absolutely correct.

You may enjoy Googling "Harper and Bankers" sometime.

Trust that the ghost of Trudeau "The Elder" will never explain it to you and Trudeau "The Younger" never will understand it but his buddy Gerald Butts certainly does

 
Rick Gibeault

@Maurice O'brien It is money out of your pocket whether the feds or provinces cough up for health care. The constitution says it is a Provincial responsibility. Your Premier should be held to account if there is not enough money for health care.

David Raymond Amos

@Rick Gibeault Then it follows that the FEDS should not take our sales taxes

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David Raymond Amos

@Rick Gibeault Did you see mention of income tax or sales tax in the Constitution of 1867? Or are you referring to the amendments that the Quebec lawyer Trudeau "The Elder" and his Liebrano buddies such as Jean Chrétien created in 1982 that their fellow Quebeckers did not agree with despite the attempts of Meech Lake and the Charlottetown Accord???

Shan Dalamani

@Chris Healy

Meech Lake was just for Mulroney and the premiers. The Charlottetown Accord is the one where everyone had a vote.

David Raymond Amos

@Shan Dalamani Gee I mentioned Meech Lake and the Charlottetown Accord and CBC blocked me. What makes you so special?

Chuck Barris

@Maurice O'brien

you're obviously a NDP supporter, because any Conservative supporter wouldn't be complaining about wasting tax money for a security council seat, nor saying that tax money should be used to improve our healthcare system, as that would make you a hypocrit

David Raymond Amos

@Chuck Barris There are other options in a democracy. Maybe Mr O'brien voted for an Independent like me eh?

Christopher Assaly

@Maurice O'brien

It would be a waste. As long as he continues Harper's support of a certain occupying Mideast state, we'll have as much luck getting the seat as last time.

David Raymond Amos

@Christopher Assaly Oh So True

Gordon MacFarlane

@Penny Robertson

What is it they say about sarcasm?

Butts' carreer is a matter of record. Look him up. He is described as "The senior advisor to the PM"

I deliberately avoided calling him a puppeteer so as not to be nasty.

I honestly think he is the guy you go to to get to the PM and as such pulls the strings behind the scenes.

Earl Sargent

@Gordon MacFarlane Well put Gordon. He is very dangerous to Canadians. His past record speaks for itself.

David Raymond Amos

@Earl Sargent FYI I have been stress testing the ethics of my fellow Maritimer Mr Butts for years. Trust that he has failed every time.

John Brown

@Mark O'Brien . First time voting. Don't know much about Government. Still trying to figure out right from wrong. Look at your own attitude first.

David Raymond Amos @John Brown At least the Liebranos will allow me to vote next time Look inside the top thread to see why

http://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/electoral-reform-tire-fire-1.3876961

 

Brendan Fletcher Here's a tip that I hope any of the listening Liberals will hear: if you fail to reform the electoral system of first-past-the-post (barring some unexpected and irreconcilable deterrent) then I will never support the Trudeau Liberals again. The Liberals regained their once vaunted position at head of the state on the promise of definitive reform. There are some promises that we can reasonably expect to have some pushback, but there are others central to everything you sold us on; electoral reform is the epitome of the lateral.

Don't pander or distract with nonsense about referendums or national discourse; this was never about mass appeal. Electoral schema are complex, esoteric, and intrinsically boring-- interesting only to those who are hardline political science junkies. The mass public would only serve to be evangelized by sensationalized, manipulative, and overly simplistic interpretations of the options to cater to whichever political camp they already fell into. A real discussion was never up for grabs, and every person involved knew this at the onset.

But I'm one of those political junkies who took the time and interest to become extremely passionate about the desperately needed update to our electoral scheme. I'm also one of the voters who was skeptical about whether or not we could expect substantive change with the Liberals. I do not believe for a lot of the leftists you reached out to this campaign I am alone in this. And I will be converted pure orange should you fail in this one promise.

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David Raymond Amos

@Brendan Fletcher Perhaps folks should listen to what I said to the Liebrano Chair of the ERRE Committee when they were in Fredericton just before Thanksgiving. It was small wonder to me that CBC reported nothing about it.

David Raymond Amos

@Brendan Fletcher FYI

http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?Language=e&Mode=1&Parl=42&Ses=1&DocId=8493010

The Chair:
Okay, we'll look at Iceland. We're just checking on the kind of system they have, but I appreciate the input, especially from a candidate, from somebody who has run many times.
But we do have—

Mr. David Amos:
I have two other points, because I don't think you can pull this
off. I don't think it will happen.

The Chair:
Well, I'm hoping we do.

Mr. David Amos:
Here is my suggestion. You guys are going north.

The Chair:
Yes.

Mr. David Amos:
Look how parliamentarians are elected in the Northwest Territories. There is no party, and I like that.

The Chair:
That's true. We were just up in Yellowknife, in fact, and we learned all about that. That's why it's good for us to be travelling the country

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David Raymond Amos

@David Raymond Amos YO Hubby lacroix Why is it I was not surprised that CBC blocked my comments?

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David Raymond Amos

@David Raymond Amos YO Hubby Lacriox why did your moderators change their mind and allow just one comment of mine to be published within a website owned by "We The People"?

Could it be because I Tweeted and blogged about CBC's continued malice towards me immediately?

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@David Raymond Amos

Methinks that the CBC's malicious moderators overlooked the FACT that they had allowed the very same comments to stand the test of time for exactly one month N'esy Pas PM Trudeau "The Younger"???

http://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/electoral-reform-tire-fire-1.3876961

Look within the top thread under this comment

Paul Bigras
I get the feeling there won`t be any electoral reform. Another broken promise.

 

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David Raymond Amos @Brendan Fletcher

Hmmm. Perhaps the very strange right wing wacko Dr Leitch has a point after all. However I doubt the sneaky CBC Lawyers such Hubby Baby Lacroix, Sylvie Gadoury and Alex Johnston or you would agree EH Madame Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada Jody Wilson-Raybould Billy Pentney and Deric MacKenzie-Feder?

"If Leitch loses, the scale of that defeat could also have an impact on the future of the party. If she takes a large share of the vote, the next leader of the Conservatives might feel the need to take up some of Leitch's policies, which include screening immigrants for "anti-Canadian values" and dismantling the CBC"

Methinks CBC should be dismantled if they continue with their "anti-Canadian values" and only support sneaky political Quebeckers who get elected just because Harper and Mulcair were such LOSERS N'esy Pas Minister Joly and Prime Minister Trudeau "The Younger"???

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David Raymond Amos

@Brendan Fletcher
In my humble opinion CBC's malicious moderators should compare my work to theirs then call their union lawyers ASAP N'esy Hubby Baby Lacroix???

ENJOY YA BASTARDS

http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2017/01/cbc-shows-its-nasty-arse-again-in.html

Norm Duck

By October 2019 Canada will be Liberal free federal or provincial
Canada will be reborn

Leslie Stewart

@Norm Duck I'm all for BC being Liberal free!

David Raymond Amos

@Leslie Stewart DUHH??? Hell even Stockwell Day will tell ya that the Liberals in BC are closet Conservatives.

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David Raymond Amos

@Norm Duck I bet your Fat Daddy Daffy Duck is singing you the tune ?Dream On Little Dreamer Dream On"

David Raymond Amos @David Raymond Amos Too Too Funny that CBC blocked that comment Eh Hubby Lacriox and Minister Joly.

If your mindless moderators bother to Google my name and that of Julian Assange they will see that he and Birgitta jonsdottir not the only hackers on the planet and that I knew both of them BEFORE they became famous. More importantly everybody in the know knows I busted Assange in front of his friends before Jonsdottir released the famous video out of Iceland. For the record Assange's friends are definitely not Russians. They are in fact Yankees working for George Soros et al

Alan Cane

That pic of Trudeau pointing should include the cut line, "I'll take the one with chocolate icing."

David Raymond Amos

@Alan Cane I use that picture to point at the comments posted in my blog

5 federal politicians to watch in 2017

Leadership contestants, electoral reformers and, of course, the prime minister

By Éric Grenier, CBC News Posted: Jan 01, 2017 5:00 AM ET 

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has some big decisions to make this year. (Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press)

Both the Conservatives and New Democrats will choose new leaders in 2017, but the Liberals will also have some important decisions to make, including how to handle the prime minister's ongoing fundraising controversy and whether to move forward with electoral reform.
Here are five federal politicians to watch this year.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau

Though the prime minister is always the most important political figure in the country, Justin Trudeau carries his party more than most leaders. He is hyper-present, making himself the face of the government and the controversial decisions it makes — as he did when he announced the government's decision on oil pipelines in November rather than passing the responsibility to Natural Resources Minister Jim Carr.

• The Pollcast: Leadership races, Trudeau and Trump

Trudeau is more popular than his party, with an approval rating averaging 59 per cent in 2016, while the Liberals averaged 47 per cent support.

But his numbers dipped as the year came to a close and the controversy surrounding "cash-for-access" fundraisers may be contributing to that.

A recent Nanos Research poll suggested 62 per cent of Canadians disapprove or somewhat disapprove of elected officials attending $1,500-per-ticket fundraising events, while Abacus Data found the controversy has made Canadians feel worse rather than better about the Trudeau government by a margin of three to one.

Being the headliner for these events, while also being the face of the Liberal Party, may prove to be an enduring problem for Trudeau in 2017.

Democratic Institutions Minister Maryam Monsef

 

It will be up to Democratic Institutions Minister Maryam Monsef to deliver on the Liberals' promise of electoral reform. (Sean Kilpatrick/Canadian Press)

The Liberals campaigned on ending the first-past-the-post voting system before the 2019 federal election and it's up to Maryam Monsef, minister of democratic institutions, to deliver on that promise.

Despite a palpable lack of enthusiasm on the part of the Liberals for either proportional representation or a referendum on any change to the electoral system — the two main recommendations of the special committee on electoral reform — Monsef still promises to present legislation in the spring.

• The Pollcast: Electoral reform, like math, is hard

Polls don't suggest Canadians are convinced there's a need to change the electoral system and they're even more divided on what kind of change should be enacted. They are clearer on whether a referendum should be held: according to a recent Forum poll, 64 per cent of Canadians, including 55 per cent of Liberal voters, said there should be a vote.

Monsef's move on electoral reform will affect every MP in the House of Commons, so the legislation she says she'll present in the spring has the potential to be one of the most consequential bills of the entire year.

NDP MP Nathan Cullen

 

NDP MP Nathan Cullen could have a big impact on the NDP leadership race — even though he's not running. (Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press)

British Columbia MP Nathan Cullen is the NDP's critic for democratic reform and an outspoken proponent of proportional representation. With every step that Monsef takes on this file, Cullen will be right there to challenge her.

• The Pollcast: When will the NDP leadership race get going?

Cullen will also likely have influence on the NDP's leadership race. Cullen, who finished third in the party's 2012 leadership campaign, has already ruled himself out this time. But his endorsement might be the most valuable from any New Democrat.

Conservative MP Kellie Leitch​

 

How Kellie Leitch fares in the Conservative leadership race could influence where the party goes from here. (Liam Richards/Canadian Press)

Whether Ontario MP Kellie Leitch succeeds or fails in her bid for the Conservative leadership will only tell part of the story of what her populist campaign means for the future of her party.

Can she win? So far, she has few endorsements from fellow caucus members or party luminaries, she was beaten by Quebec MP Maxime Bernier in fundraising in the third quarter of 2016, and the rules of the leadership race reward contestants with a broad base of support — a base that her fundraising data suggests she doesn't have.

• ANALYSIS|​ What we're talking about, and not talking about, when we talk about 'elites'

But if Leitch wins, she would pull the Conservatives in a direction that would leave Trudeau's Liberals with a lot of room in the centre of the political spectrum — and polling suggests the Liberals are already holding a wide lead among centrist voters.

If Leitch loses, the scale of that defeat could also have an impact on the future of the party. If she takes a large share of the vote, the next leader of the Conservatives might feel the need to take up some of Leitch's policies, which include screening immigrants for "anti-Canadian values" and dismantling the CBC. But if she wins a small share of the vote, it could be an indication that populism doesn't work in Canada.

'Consensus' candidate for Conservative leader

 

No clear front-runner has emerged in the crowded Conservative leadership race. (Andrew Vaughan/Canadian Press)

Considering there is no apparent front-runner yet in the crowded Conservative leadership race, there is a significant likelihood that the eventual winner could be the contestant who finishes second or third on the first ballot.

With their unique policy positions, candidates like Michael Chong, Leitch and Bernier might occupy a large enough section of the Conservative membership base to do well on the first ballot, but they could have trouble garnering the second- and third-choice votes needed to win. That opens up the door to "consensus" candidates, those who are trying to alienate the fewest number of members by avoiding controversial policies — candidates like Andrew Scheer, Erin O'Toole and Lisa Raitt.

The long list of contestants and the lack of hard data on their rankings in the race make it impossible to know who that consensus candidate might be just yet. Data, such as fundraising numbers and polls on second choice preferences, might help clarify things before party members vote in May.

But until the list of contestants is winnowed down, it might be difficult for any candidate to stand out from the pack.

 http://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/electoral-reform-tire-fire-1.3876961

Opinion

Canada's electoral reform file has reached tire fire status: Robyn Urback

The idea of changing Canada's voting system seems just as far off as it's ever been

By Robyn Urback, CBC News Posted: Dec 01, 2016 4:23 PM ET

Minister of Democratic Institutions Maryam Monsef lambasted the electoral reform committee in the House of Commons Thursday following the release of its recommendations. (Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press)

Here's what you need to know about the House of Commons committee report on electoral reform: nothing makes sense, no one knows what's going on and there's not really a consensus on anything.

The all-party committee recommended holding a referendum on changing Canada's electoral system from first-past-the-post to proportional representation in time for the next election. That part is clear. Except, according to a supplementary report from Liberal committee members, the "recommendation to proceed with a national referendum is inconsistent with both the evidence received and the will of Canadians."

What?

In their supplementary report, the Liberals also called the recommendation "radical" and "rushed," despite the fact the Liberals have been the ones leading the charge to overhaul Canada's electoral system in time for the next election.

"Our position is that the timeline on electoral reform … is unnecessarily hasty and runs the risk of undermining the legitimacy of the process by racing toward a predetermined deadline."

What? It was the Liberals who set the deadline in the first place.

Election promise

This "what the hell is happening?" tenor has generally been the theme of everything electoral reform for the past year, ever since the Liberals made their ill-fated promise that 2015 would be the last federal election under first-past-the-post.

It was a pledge with basically no plan of execution, other than a vague commitment to "consult with Canadians." But since the Liberals also vowed to introduce legislation to enact electoral reform within 18 months of forming government — ostensibly regardless of whatever those consultations would reveal — the exercise of hearing what Canadians had to say would be more of a symbolic ritual than an actual prerequisite for moving forward.

Cullen says Liberals may not be interested in keeping promise1:40

The most obvious way of gauging public support for changing the electoral system — a referendum — was dismissed by Minister of Democratic Institutions Maryam Monsef as not "inclusive" enough, since, according to Monsef, some people don't vote in referendums. (Fact check: true. Some people also don't vote in general elections. We should probably look at cancelling those, too.) The Liberals doubled down, arguing they had the mandate to change Canada's voting system because Canadians handed them a majority last fall … based on a method of voting the party has deemed illegitimate. Everyone following so far?

Talking to Canadians

That kicked off the government's talking-to-Canadians summer tour, where people who actually enjoy talking about things like proportional representation in their spare time participated in town hall discussions about electoral reform. These discussions, which we were to take as more "inclusive" than a poll of the entire electorate, seemed to reveal a preference for proportional representation, which, for the Liberals, is a system that is far less likely to guarantee them successive majority control over the House of Commons than, say, a ranked ballot system.

Monsef nevertheless claimed there was no indication people were leaning toward one system or another, while Prime Minister Justin Trudeau suggested his government might be stepping off the gas on the electoral reform file altogether because Canadians are now less enthusiastic about changing the way we vote after getting rid of Stephen Harper.

• ANALYSIS| Trudeau boxes himself in
• NDP opens door to referendum

To cap it all off, Monsef went rogue in the House of Commons Thursday following the release of the committee's recommendations. She lambasted the committee for not fulfilling the mandate assigned to it (in fact, it fulfilled its mandate exactly), for using an "incomprehensible" formula to propose a referendum (which is false) and for not completing "the hard work we expected them to do."

That is a fitting end — for now — to the tire fire that is the electoral reform file. The idea of changing Canada's voting system seems just as far off as it's ever been, with a minister all but throwing out the recommendations of her committee. Why, if we didn't know any better, it would appear this might have been nothing but a lofty campaign promise all along.

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Paul Bigras

I get the feeling there won`t be any electoral reform. Another broken promise.

David Raymond Amos

@Paul Bigras Need I say that I knew that out of the gate particularly when the Clerks of the Committee would not accept my brief? However they could not stop me from saying my two bits worth for two minutes on the evening of October 7th in Fredericton NB. The liberal chair from Quebec made an interesting Faux Pas though. Instead of just allowing me to speak for two minutes he kept interrupting me. Thus I got to speak for seven minutes. In the end he turned of my mike but not his. If you listen closely you can hear Elizabeth May laughing until I informed her that her email account acknowledged what the Clerks did not. She quit laughing then. Enjoy.

David Raymond Amos

@David Raymond Amos Here is the link to what was said

https://archive.org/details/MeanOldMeVersusTheERREPeople

vladimir pucel (Putin not allowed)

@John Lawless For a guy you have small idea of hunking, 39% really?

David Raymond Amos

@Paul Bigras CBC obviously blocks my comments for political reasons. However I always make certain that their lawyer boss Hubby Lacriox and his many minions know that I repost what the Crown Corp block within my blog.

That said lets see if they will allow the text from the Hansard that night to stand within with the Crown's public domain.

http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?Language=e&Mode=1&Parl=42&Ses=1&DocId=8493010

Special Committee on Electoral Reform
NUMBER 039
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EVIDENCE
Friday, October 7, 2016
[Recorded by Electronic Apparatus]
(1335)
[English]

The Chair:
Thank you very much.
Mr. David Amos, the floor is yours.

Mr. David Amos (As an Individual):
Mr. Chair, I ran for public office five times against your party.
That said, I ran against Mr. DeCourcey's boss right here in
Fredericton in the election for the 39th Parliament.
I was not aware of this committee meeting in Fredericton today
until I heard Mr. DeCourcey speaking on CBC this morning. I don't
pretend to know something I don't, but I'm a quick study. I thought I
had paid my dues to sit on the panel. I notified the clerks in a
timely fashion, but I received no response. At least I get another
minute and a half.

David Raymond Amos

@David Raymond Amos
The previous speaker answered the $64,000 question: 338. I can
name every premier in the country. Governor Maggie Hassan is my
governor in New Hampshire. The people there who sit in the house get
paid $100 a year plus per diem expenses. I think that's the way to run
a government. There are lots of seats in the house for a very small
state.
My understanding of this hearing is that you have to report to Mr.
Trudeau by December 1, because he said during the election that if he
were elected Prime Minister, the 42nd Parliament, which I also ran in,
would be the last first-past-the-post election. You don't have much
time, so my suggestion to the clerks today, which I published and sent
to the Prime Minister of Iceland and his Attorney General, was to do
what Iceland does. Just cut and paste their rules. They have no first
past the post. They have a pending election.

David Raymond Amos

@David Raymond Amos
A former friend of mine, Birgitta Jónsdóttir, founded a party
there, for which there is no leader. It is the Pirate Party. It's high
in the polls right now with no leader. That's interesting. I tweeted
this. You folks said that you follow tweets, so you should have seen
what I tweeted before I came here this evening.
That said, as a Canadian, I propose something else. Number one,
my understanding of the Constitution and what I read about law....
There was a constitutional expert named Edgar Schmidt who sued the
government. He was the man who was supposed to vet bills for Peter
MacKay to make sure they were constitutionally correct. He did not
argue the charter. He argued Mr. Diefenbaker's Bill of Rights.
In 2002 I read a document filed by a former deputy minister of
finance, Kevin Lynch, who later became Mr. Harper's clerk of the Privy
Council. Now he's on an independent board of the Chinese oil company
that bought Nexen. As deputy minister of finance, he reported to the
American Securities and Exchange Commission on behalf of the
corporation known as Canada. It is a very interesting document that I
saved and forwarded to you folks. It says that he was in a quandary
about whether the charter was in effect.
(2005)

David Raymond Amos

@David Raymond Amos
The Chair:
Could it be in relation to a particular voting system?

Mr. David Amos:
According to Mr. Lynch, because of the failure of the Meech Lake
and Charlottetown accords, he was in a quandary as to whether the
charter was in effect. I know that the Supreme Court argues it on a
daily basis. That charter, created by Mr. Trudeau and Mr. Chrétien,
his attorney general at the time, gave me the right to run for public
office and vote as a Canadian citizen. However, in the 1990s, Mr.
Chrétien came out with a law, and because I am a permanent American
resident, I can't vote. Yet the charter says I can.

The Chair:
That's a—

Mr. David Amos:
That said, that's been argued in court. In 2000, Mr. Chrétien came
out with a law that said I couldn't vote. Right? He also took away my
social insurance number.

The Chair:
I don't know about the case—

Mr. David Amos:
No, he did.

The Chair:
But I don't know about the case.

David Raymond Amos

@David Raymond Amos
Mr. David Amos:
I did prove, after I argued with Elections Canada's lawyers in
2004.... You might have taken away my right to vote, but you can't
stop me from running for public office, and I proved it five times.

The Chair:
Given that you're an experienced candidate—

Mr. David Amos:
Very experienced.

The Chair:
—does that experience provide you with a particular insight on the
voting systems we're looking at?

Mr. David Amos:
In Mr. Trudeau's words, he has to come up with a plan and no more
first past the post. My suggestion to you, in my contact today, is to
cut and paste Iceland's rules.

The Chair:
What kind of system does Iceland have?

Mr. David Amos:
It's just what you need, just what Mr. Trudeau is ordering now.
It's proportional elections.

The Chair:
Is it MMP, or is it just...?

Mr. David Amos:
I tweeted you the beginner's book for Iceland.

David Raymond Amos

@David Raymond Amos
The Chair:
Okay, we'll look at Iceland.
We're just checking on the kind of system they have, but I
appreciate the input, especially from a candidate, from somebody who
has run many times.
But we do have—

Mr. David Amos:
I have two other points, because I don't think you can pull this
off. I don't think it will happen.

The Chair:
Well, I'm hoping we do.

Mr. David Amos:
Here is my suggestion. You guys are going north.

The Chair:
Yes.

Mr. David Amos:
Look how parliamentarians are elected in the Northwest
Territories. There is no party, and I like that.

The Chair:
That's true. We were just up in Yellowknife, in fact, and we
learned all about that. That's why it's good for us to be travelling
the country.
But, sir, I—

Mr. David Amos:
I have one more suggestion.

The Chair:
One more.

David Raymond Amos

@David Raymond Amos
Mr. David Amos:
Mr. Harper changed the Canada Elections Act and I still couldn't vote.

The Chair:
Yes, I was in the House when that happened.

Mr. David Amos:
Anyway, that said, when you alter the Canada Elections Act, make it....
The biggest problem we have is, look at the vast majority of
people who, like me, have never voted in their life. Apathy rules the
day.

The Chair:
Except that you've put us on to an idea about Iceland—

Mr. David Amos:
Let me finish.
I suggest that you make voting mandatory, such as Australia does.
Make it that if you don't vote, it costs you money, just like if you
don't report to Statistics Canada.

The Chair:
Well, we're talking about that. That is part of our mandate, to
look at mandatory voting and online voting.
You already had your last suggestion.
(2010)
Mr. David Amos:
Put in the line, “none of the above”, and if “none of the above” wins—

The Chair:
That's right, we've heard that, too.

Mr. David Amos:
Well, I haven't.

The Chair:
We've heard that in our testimony.

Mr. David Amos:
You and I will be talking again, trust me on that one, by way of writing.
You answered my emails, Ma'am.

The Chair:
Thank you very much, sir.
Now we'll hear from Julie Maitland.

Glen Clark

@Paul Bigras
Electoral Reform is the love child of a very vocal minority. Conservatives knew this; Liberals know this. It would not pass a referendum. It may have got JT some extra fringe votes but now is not in their best political interests to peruse. There is nothing wrong with the current system. We elect a person from our riding to represent us. We have a multi-party system a candidate needs to win the most votes; not 50+%. We all get 1 vote: Use it wisely. Don't whine that my guy didn't win so I want a second vote now. I personally would never mark a second choice on a ballot. I accept the result whether I like it or not.

Patrick Dool

@Paul Bigras Promise is a word Liberals use to make people believe a lie backed up by the media.... in your best interests, of course.

tom barry

@Paul Bigras

"I get the feeling there won`t be any electoral reform. Another broken promise."

That's a broken promise i will cheer.

David Raymond Amos

@David Raymond Amos YO Hubby Lacroix i got bored waiting to see if your moderators were gonna maintain their MO and block me or not. However as soon as I saw that you dudes allowed posts after me I moved on.

Feel free to compare my work to yours.

http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2016/12/the-mindless-minister-overseeing.html

Trust that I will Tweet about your malice and send your lawyers and Minister Joly another email about my indignation towards you in short order as per my MO

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From: "Gallant, Premier Brian (PO/CPM)"
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2017 16:55:54 +0000
Subject: RE: YO Mr Trump Its interesting that my comments are still rolling while the other CBC website about Trudeau "The Younger" has been closed for hours
To: David Amos

Thank you for writing to the Premier of New Brunswick.  Please be advised that our office is closed and we will be returning on January 3, 2017.  Your email will be reviewed and if a response is requested, it will be forthcoming.

Happy Holidays!

Nous vous remercions d’avoir communiqué avec le premier ministre du Nouveau-Brunswick.  Soyez informé(e ) que notre bureau est fermé jusqu’au 3 janvier 2017.  Votre courriel sera examiné et une réponse vous parviendra à sa demande.

Joyeuses Fêtes!

---------- Original message ----------
From: Póstur FOR
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2017 16:59:44 +0000
Subject: Re: YO Mr Trump Its interesting that my comments are still rolling while the other CBC website about Trudeau "The Younger" has been closed for hours
To: David Amos

Erindi þitt hefur verið móttekið  / Your request has been received

Kveðja / Best regards
Forsætisráðuneytið  / Prime Minister's Office

---------- Original message ----------
From: Póstur IRR
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2017 16:59:59 +0000
Subject: Re: YO Mr Trump Its interesting that my comments are still rolling while the other CBC website about Trudeau "The Younger" has been closed for hours
To: David Amos

Erindi þitt hefur verið móttekið. / Your request has been received.

Kveðja / Best regards
Innanríkisráðuneytið / Ministry of the Interior


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Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2017 16:55:51 +0000
Subject: Re: YO Mr Trump Its interesting that my comments are still rolling while the other CBC website about Trudeau "The Younger" has been closed for hours
To: David Amos

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On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 11:55:50 EST, David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com; wrote:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/grenier-federal-politicians-2017-1.3898004?__vfz=profile_comment%3D3746100005999

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/trudeau-new-years-message-1.3917988