Thursday 31 January 2019

Methinks CBC should quit playing games with our tax dollars for the benefit of the LIEbranos and the SANB N'esy Pas?

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Methinks Premier Higgs and his French Lieutenant Gauvin won't be happy campers if they heard this interview this morning Perhaps that is why CBC won't allow me to post a link to their own podcast in any CBC comment section N'esy Pas? 


https://podcast-a.akamaihd.net/mp3/podcasts/infomornfred-5M0Wq367-20190131.mp3






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Methinks CBC should have posted a link to their Podcast Very Strange that they blocked me when I tried N'esy Pas? 

 Enjoy 





https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/new-brunswick-francophonie-games-blaine-higgs-kirsty-duncan-1.5000019


 

Sport minister 'disappointed' by cancellation of Francophonie Games



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David R. Amos
David R. Amos
Methinks we should be deeply disappointed with Minister Kirsty Duncan after listening to her attempt at Orwellian doublespeak N'esy Pas?






Lou Bell
Lou Bell
Actually Ms. Duncan , most of Canada knew nothing about it , and most Canadians weren't excited about them and had no idea of the costs ! But if that's what Dominic wants you to say , well go for it , although we know otherwise !


David R. Amos
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David R. Amos
@Lou Bell Methinks we should be deeply disappointed with Minister Kirsty Duncan after listening to her attempt at Orwellian doublespeak N'esy Pas?

https://podcast-a.akamaihd.net/mp3/podcasts/infomornfred-ATBVP78Z-20190131.mp3






 David R. Amos 
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David R. Amos
Methinks CBC should have posted a link to their Podcast N'esy Pas?

Enjoy

Federal minister of science and sport, Kirsty Duncan, says Ottawa is 'deeply disappointed' that N.B. walked away from the Francophonie games.

https://podcast-a.akamaihd.net/mp3/podcasts/infomornfred-ATBVP78Z-20190131.mp3



David R. Amos

David R. Amos
@David R. Amos Oh My My















Minister Duncan should not be too disappointed as it was her Provinvial Liberal counterparts and her own office should have had oversight on the progress or lack of progress by the organizing committee. Blaming provinvial Conservatives for not having vision is just cheap politics by Minister Duncan and others.


David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@ Methinks we should all ask the obvious question N'esy Pas?

WHO ARE YOU???









Matt Steele
Matt Steele
New Brunswick never agreed to the games ; Brian Gallant , Dominic LeBlanc , and their back room buddies agreed to them . If there had been a referendum over this issue , the Francophonie games would never have seen the light of day . Even Brian Gallant kept the true cost of the games a SECRET all through the election because he knew how outraged people would be . N.B.ers got rid of Gallant , maybe it is time for Canadians to get rid of Trudeau in Oct. !


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Matt Steele

Actually you did when you elected an official its called democracy.

David R. Amos
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David R. Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks everybody knows that democracy and justice are myths in the dog eat dog world of professional politicians N'esy Pas?

David R. Amos
Content disabled.
David R. Amos
@Marc Martin Did you really think that I would overlook your insults of my wife?


daryl doucette
daryl doucette
@Matt Steele Trudeau is DONE oct 19.

Chuck Michaels
Chuck Michaels
@Matt Steele - I will be voting ANYONE but Dominic in October... Hopefully my friends, colleagues and neighbors will be of a mind to send the same message....

Shawn McShane
Shawn McShane
@Marc Martin When the Francophone Games came to light you said you had never heard of them.

“Nothing so diminishes democracy as secrecy.”

-Ramsey Clark

David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Chuck Michaels Methinks Dominic should be deeply disappointed with Minister Kirsty Duncan after listening to her attempt at Orwellian doublespeak N'esy Pas?



David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@daryl doucette "Trudeau is DONE oct 19."

Methinks it would not be wise to bet the farm on that opinion in light of the fact that Maxime will split the vote on the right and the NDP are in toilet N'esy Pas?



  






Shawn McShane
Stephen Bolton
Every New Brunswicker, every Canadian for that matter, should hear Terry Seguin's interview on Information Morning. This article parrots Duncan's talking points accurately. Points she endlessly repeated despite the pointed questions Terry asked - like if she realized NB was broke and needed to spend its money wisely? Should the province spend millions on French games or correct deficiencies in social services so children were not at risk? No meaningful response from Duncan - just the talking points. But in her world, and Dominique LeBlanc's the budget doesn't matter. I was going to say budgets will balance themselves, but even trying to do that is not a matter of importance to liberals. Just pass the cost along to future governments and generations. Remember this issue in October!


David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Stephen Bolton Every New Brunswicker, every Canadian for that matter, should hear Terry Seguin's interview on Information Morning.

Methinks it is very strange that no link to the podcast is posted N'esy Pas?









Shawn McShane  
cheryl wright
yeah I was lucky enough to hear her regurgitate the same sentence over and over again regardless of the question. she has no idea what we are going through financially in this province and obviously does not care... so sit in your office in Ottawa and keep being disappointed. you probably don't even know how to get to NB ..


David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@cheryl wright "yeah I was lucky enough to hear her regurgitate the same sentence over and over again regardless of the question"

Me Too










Shawn McShane  
Emery Hyslop-Margison
I watched this person last night on PNP. When pressed she was an embarrassment to JT's cabinet. Well . . . wait a minute - that cabinet is far beyond embarrassment. The foreign affairs, immigration, defence, environment and now sports files are all in a shambles. About 260 days to go!


David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Emery Hyslop-Margison Methinks many would agree that on Info Morning in Fat Fred City Duncan took the cake as the dumbest minister lately N'esy Pas?








  
Shawn McShane  
Emily Lacelle-Richard
I applaud Premier Higgs for making a difficult decision and holding steadfast to his commitment of ensuring that those leading New Brunswick start making wise fiscal choices. For those who continue to try and link this to an intentional hit against the french, you couldn't be more wrong. Premier Higgs has always stated that it has nothing to do with language and everything to do with a cost that New Brunswickers, whether French, English or Bilingual, cannot afford. I am confident the same decision would have been made if it was for an Anglophone games.


David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Emily Lacelle-Richard Methinks you should admit that Higgs had no choice in this decision because the PANB would have it no other way N'esy Pas?











Donald Bowser 
Donald Bowser
The big issue here is not language but a patronage scheme that used fraud on a low ball bid to try to line some people's pockets. The real issue is why a small group thought they would get away with a scam and to get to who knew what when and if the Feds were involved in committing fraud. We need a public inquiry.


David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Donald Bowser Methinks its strange that even though we never heard much from you anti-corruption people after you had upset your friends in the Green Party before the writ was dropped. Now you are wondering if the Feds were involved in committing fraud??? Perhaps you should review my emails that you did answer N'esy Pas?










Marc Martin
 Mark Van Laren
People seem to be pointing the finger at the wrong group. Look to the organizers. They are the ones that dropped the ball. Oh and by the way...this is not a language issue. So for those who think it is get over yourselves.


David R. Amos
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David R. Amos
Methinks first and foremost we should look to Lieblanc and his buddy Lying Brian After all they were the dudes in charge of the purse strings and oversaw the hiring and appointments etc Hence the loonie stops with them N'esy Pas?


David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Mark Van Laren Methinks first and foremost we should look to Leblanc and Gallant. They were the dudes in charge of the purse strings and oversaw the hiring and appointments etc Hence the loonie stops with them N'esy Pas?










Marc Martin
Lou Bell
Perhaps the SANB Liberals can dig into the Atcon 60 million dollar offshore account to pay for the games .
 

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Lou Bell

It makes no sense what you just said......

David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks it made perfect sense to everyone else who can read N'esy Pas?


daryl doucette
daryl doucette
@David R. Amos The " Atconites" got their nuts kicked on this one eh?


Joseph Vacher
Joseph Vacher
@Marc Martin hmmm made sense to me

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David R. Amos

Blaming a government leader of something that happened when he wasn't even in charge does not make sense to me...But I do understand it makes sense to your kind....

David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Marc Martin "But I do understand it makes sense to your kind."

Methinks you should explain that remark real slow N'esy Pas?








  
Graeme Scott
Graeme Scott
I don't know what plan she was looking for. Mr Higgs was very clear from the start that NB would not and could not spend more on these games than the original commitment. The huge cost overruns amounting to tens of millions were either going to be funded by Ottawa or the games would not proceed......period.

What part of that could Minister Duncan not understand?


Mack Leigh
Mack Leigh
@Graeme Scott

Reminds me of a child who keeps on bugging you and has no concept as to the meaning of the word.......no....

David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Mack Leigh I have never met a child that dumb











Don Julio 
Don Julio
They expected taxpayers to spend $130 mil on game to celebrate a dying language? Sounds like a pretty simple choice.


Emilien Forest
Emilien Forest
@Don Julio

I agree, engrish has gotta go.

Lou Bell
Lou Bell
@Emilien Forest Comprehension , not your forte'.

Lou Bell
Lou Bell
@Emilien Forest Francophones have been trying to eliminate " engrish for over 50 years now, thanks to Louis, Frank, Gallant , the Atcon 6, and Gallant .

Emilien Forest
Emilien Forest
@Lou Bell Tete moi if you prefer

Emilien Forest
Emilien Forest
@Lou Bell

It will continue

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Don Julio

Actually its not here is below a little education.

https://www.thelocal.fr/20170320/whats-the-future-of-the-french-language

Marc Bourque 
Marc Bourque
@Don Julio you mean latin is finally gone?

Roland Godin
Roland Godin
@Don Julio
Talking about a dying language, the English (UK) language mostly replaced by the U$ian lower common sense dialect, good to order a hot dog and maybe not with a french fry...EH!

David White 
David White
This section is interesting ...

'In the European commission, use of English has soared while French is plummeting. Only 3.6 percent of documents are edited in French (down from 37 percent in 1998) compared to 81 percent in English, according to a 2016 governmental report.'

The future of french language may lie with the population increase of french speaking Africa?

Les Cooper
Les Cooper
@David White they are bringing Africans to french communities to increase the french. Problem is neither can understand each other lol

Emery Hyslop-Margison
Emery Hyslop-Margison
@Don Julio Trudeau wants to replace both languages with Arabic and Ebonics!

David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Lou Bell "Comprehension , not your forte'."

Methinks the same could be said of you as well N'esy Pas?

David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Marc Martin Why did I sue the Queen?









Marc Martin 
Paul Bourgoin
This discriminating situation sounds like a comment coming from a Donald Trump Story.
Yes , NB has no money, but there are many friends of Government who receive sweetheart tax deals, electricity bargains, property tax exemptions, subsidies or forestry bargains, also they bank their profits in offshore banks! behind closed doors. One thing is certain we Francophone will not take the boat to Louisiana!


Lou Bell
Lou Bell
@Paul Bourgoin Perhaps the SANB can get the Atcon group to dip into the 60 million in their offshore account ! Or just use their share of the cut to pay for the games !!


Shawn McShane
Shawn McShane
@Paul Bourgoin You ever see me or any Anglophone defending those sweetheart tax deals, electric bargains, property tax exemptions, subsidies, forest bargains?

I wouldn't be surprised if the Empire subsidized SANB.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Shawn McShane

You don't seem to support anything but your own agenda...

David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks the same should be said of you and your Liberal/SANB buddies N'esy Pas?

 
Barb Flewwelling
Barb Flewwelling
@Paul Bourgoin
Other than your discrimination call, I agree with you. Please don’t encourage two solitudes. We need to work together and we are broke. The only way we could support these games is with private sponsors who will see a bad business deal or the Feds who don’t care about New Brunswick’s problems. Neither group is willing to step up. Premier Higgs had to keep his word.

Albert Wade
Albert Wade
@Paul Bourgoin you won't take the boat because unlike anglophones you are trapped in Eastern NB. When the province is finally broke, anglophones that can afford to leave will while you will finally have the province to yourself because you aren't even wanted in Quebec.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David R. Amos

Are you sure your talking to the right Marc Martin Davis ?

Les Cooper
Les Cooper
@Paul Bourgoin I wish you would!
Btw. French games are discriminating!

Les Cooper
Les Cooper
@Albert Wade The french need the English to survive. They have to come south to find a job lol



David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Marc Martin "Are you sure your talking to the right Marc Martin Davis ?"

Who is Davis?




  





Andrew Clarkson
Paul Bourgoin
What can you expect from a New Brunswick Minority Government who sold their soul to a three seat party to retain political power? but for how long will that political harmony last and at what cost? Now the French Canadians living in New Brunswick are going back in time to the times when the french were not on an equal footing with our English neighbors but history has shown us that time balances every injustice..


Andrew Clarkson
Andrew Clarkson
@Paul Bourgoin

What a bunch of BS. I can smell it permeating right over the internet!

Mack Leigh
Mack Leigh
@Paul Bourgoin

The huge pile of horse pucky you are slinging used to work.... No longer... People in this province are French , English, German, Arabic, Jewish, Italian, Korean, etc., etc., Canadians.... and as such we should all...... all..... be treated the same... No more and no less.... Cancelling the games was a sound fiscally responsible decision on the part of our current government and has absolutely nothing to do with language...

Shawn McShane
Shawn McShane
@Paul Bourgoin Acadian in New Brunswick commenting here AND Radio Canada ICI Nouveau-Brunswick were against the games as well.

Paul Bourgoin
Paul Bourgoin
@Shawn McShane

McShane a true Acadian name!

gul abul
gul abul
@Paul Bourgoin NO. They just saved all NB'ers (EN and FR) from a boondoggle we would be paying for for the next 10 yrs. Its a french tradition...check out the olympic toilet bowl fiasco.
What's that you say??? qu'est-ce que c'est Boondoggle? look it up sparky...use google.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Mack Leigh

*People in this province are French , English, German, Arabic, Jewish, Italian, Korean, etc., etc., Canadians*

You fail to understand there is only 2 official language in Canada.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Paul Bourgoin

*McShane a true Acadian name!*

NOT!!!!!!!!

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@gul abul

Garble garble ?

Joseph Vacher
Joseph Vacher
@Marc Martin and you fail to recolonize that everyone in the province can speak and read english

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Joseph Vacher

*recolonize*

K Garble garble ?

Shawn McShane
Shawn McShane
@Marc Martin. Do you still work for the empire?

Les Cooper
Les Cooper
@Paul Bourgoin that's what we need. French is the reason NB is so screwed up

David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Andrew Clarkson
"What a bunch of BS. I can smell it permeating right over the internet!"

Methinks it got worse throughout the day N'esy Pas?











Claude DeRoche
Claude DeRoche
The Irving COR party boy solution to fix NB finances:
return $3 billion in equalization to Ottawa if citizens refuse fracking!


Lou Bell
Lou Bell
@Claude DeRoche Don't fret ! Leblanc has a lip on! He and his SANB cohorts cannot be trusted. Their popularity is dropping faster than Trumps , and that is bad !

Lou Bell
Lou Bell
@Claude DeRoche Check out the latest popularity poll ! Methinks your favourite Party is bottoming out , bigtime !! GREAT JOB MR. HIGGS !!!!!

John O'Brien
John O'Brien
@Claude DeRoche Higgs is certainly shaming Gallant and the French as a bunch of incompetent and frauds.And he is doing it by just performing his job with focus and no political spin. That is a kind of politics we haven't seen for decades- certainly not with Liberals and not recently with Conservatives either.

David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Claude DeRoche Methinks you should read what you write before its published N'esy Pas?






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Methinks CBC should quit playing games with our tax dollars for the benefit of the LIEbranos and the SANB N'esy Pas? 

https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/01/cancelling-games-in-moncton-dieppe.html




https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/dieppe-moncton-francophonie-games-reaction-1.4998457



Cancelling Games in Moncton, Dieppe triggers worry over hosting future events





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David R. Amos
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David R. Amos
Methinks Mr Higgs and Mr Gauvin will not be happy campers if they heard this interview this morning N'esy Pas?

https://podcast-a.akamaihd.net/mp3/podcasts/infomornfred-5M0Wq367-20190131.mp3








David R. Amos
David R. Amos
Methinks folks should have tuned into the circus on CBC in Fredericton this morning while they were commenting in here N'esy Pas?

Here is a little Deja Vu for some of you to enjoy

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/francophonie-games-province-blaine-higgs-1.4997694


Seamus O'hern
Seamus O'hern
@David R. Amos ....hahaha...sic em David.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David R. Amos

* tuned into the circus on CBC *

I am still looking for that circus...Are you in it ?

David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks you are a wannabe star of the show N'esy Pas?


Jake Devries
Jake Devries
@David R. Amos any bets Marc was part of the Acadian Chosen Few who would have made out like other Lib bandits ??

David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Jake Devries Methinks he is just a minor minion making brownie points with the "Power That Be" within the civil service in Fat Fred City Clearly he ain't very clever N'esy Pas?

 
Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David R. Amos

I tough I was already...

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Jake Devries

I would like to make that bet how much do you own ? :)

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David R. Amos

You jealous Davis ? I mean I would be after loosing 12 election...

David R. Amos
David R. Amos


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David R. Amos

Not interested....Maybe one of the other Marc Martin would ?

David R. Amos
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David R. Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks everybody knows that you agree with this dude N'esy Pas?

https://podcast-a.akamaihd.net/mp3/podcasts/infomornfred-5M0Wq367-20190131.mp3










Mark Murphy 
Colin Seeley
MSM at its worst.

Anything to put down things that are not Liberal .

Even Sherbrooke has announced it no longer wants to host the games. Too $$$$.

What a barf article.


David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Colin Seeley Methinks you are correct now and then just like busted watch N'esy Pas?








Mark Murphy 
Marty Forsythe
The question has to be asked how does a bid for 17 million on the tender jump to 130 million. Of course the government of any political stripe would say no to this. Time for the truth of the bid and where they were going to spend 130 million comes out. There is much needed infrastructure improvements around the Province that needs the money than hosting a games for 130 million, 17 or 20 million yes for sure


David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Marty Forsythe "The question has to be asked how does a bid for 17 million on the tender jump to 130 million."

Mais Oui








Mark Murphy 
Troy Murray
Flogging a dead horse.


David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Troy Murray YUP








Ernesto Rafael 
Ernesto Rafael
This will assuredly upset the culture crowd as they are accustom to receiving money where there is not.


David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Ernesto Rafael I would feel empathy for them but I am not fond of wealthy snobs









Mark Murphy 
John Pokiok
Oh you should not worry at all just next time plan the games that you can afford with your own money and you might have them. Leave the taxpayers money alone voila.


David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@John Pokiok Mais Oui










Joe Gallant
Joe Gallant
This by far has been the best decision that any past or current gov't has made. There is enough of our tax dollars going down the toilet and you know people are going to turn it into something that not and say that our Premier is against the French Acadians and that the People Alliance leader did not support it. I am French Acadian and was not raised by my parents to assume every decision is based on either race, religion or language you speak rather because it's the right one to make. Can't please everyone which is why politicians need thick skin.
Keep warm and smile at a stranger as you may just make their day.

Ernesto Rafael
Ernesto Rafael
@Joe Gallant - If only the SANB shared the same ideology.

Seamus O'hern
Seamus O'hern
@Joe Gallant ....YOU are my kind of CANADIAN Joe....have a great day!.

Joe Gallant
Joe Gallant
@Seamus O'hern
Thanks and right back at ya

Yves Savoie
Yves Savoie
@Joe Gallant I'm french also and I second your post....we are not all stupid!!!

David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Joe Gallant "There is enough of our tax dollars going down the toilet"

Methinks everything political is always about the money Hence I follow the money for obvious reasons N'esy Pas?










Mark Murphy 
Toby Tolly
blame this one on Brian and Dominic


David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Toby Tolly and Justin









Mark Murphy 
Tim Raworth
Its interesting how the people in favor will spin how much money and benefit it will bring to the area. They must have taken math lessens from the original organizers.


David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Tim Raworth YUP








Mark Murphy 
Gil Murray
Beware people who want you to provide them with $10 today in exchange for something tomorrow and refuse to clearly explain how they will accomplish it. It usually means they want to use $10 of your money to increase their personal wealth and never speak to you again.


David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Gil Murray Methinks George said best in his tune "Beware of Darkness" N'esy Pas?

"Watch out now, take care
Beware of greedy leaders
They take you where you should not go"









Mark Murphy  
Mack Leigh
Very thankful to Premier Higgs and all of those involved in making the right decision to cancel the games... We cannot afford them...period... Lay this fiasco squarely at the feet of B. Gallant and his cronies along with Dominic LeBlanc..... There now needs to be a full investigation as this whole thing smells of corruption, collusion and quite possibly fraud, in my opinion....


Colin Seeley
Colin Seeley
@Mack Leigh

A full investigation will cost millions. Let it go.

We know who to blame.

Natalie Pugh
Natalie Pugh
@Colin Seeley
There should be an investigation. You never know what else may be uncovered!

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Mack Leigh

If the PM would have been an English one we would have heard crickets in here...Gallant is too French for your crowd.

David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Marc Martin Cry me a river

Seamus O'hern
Seamus O'hern
@Marc Martin "Gallant is too French for your crowd"...do you mean N.B. or Canada?...please explain.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Seamus O'hern

I didn't know Gallant was in Federal politics...

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David R. Amos

Are you sure your talking to the right Marc Martin Davis?

Jim Reid
Jim Reid
@Marc Martin aka Dominic

David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Marc Martin Who is Davis?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David R. Amos

You know who you are Davis...









Mark Murphy  
Wally E. Bamberger
If an organization wishes to host an event with taxpayers' money, then they should publish in a news release a pro-forma statement of income and expenses and sign a contract that if expenses grow they will cover them without requesting additional taxpayer money. If the solicited governments are carrying a significant debt load then the applicants should suggest a list of other programs that the government could cut in order to redirect the funds without increasing the governments' debt load.

Methinks applications and the governments' debt load would fall dramatically.


David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Wally E. Bamberger "Methinks applications and the governments' debt load would fall dramatically."

Me Too










Mark Murphy  
Craig O'Donnell
Unless Moncton and Dieppe promised to ante up more money than what they had proposed in order to keep the games, I think their councillors and mayors should keep their mouths shut on the issue. Expecting the rest of the province to pay out vast amounts of taxpayers' money for something that doesn't benefit the majority (increase in economy? Yeah, right.... only those 2 towns!) and is basically just paying for a cultural entity is wasteful in the extreme considering the state of the province.


David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Craig O'Donnell I agree











Mark Murphy  
Dale Chapman
The people complaining about Moncton no longer hosting the games have to explain to the taxpayers who were going to foot the bill "How did the costs balloon from $17 M to $130 M?"
Almost all projects come in over budget. I was personally expecting the cost of the games to go from $17 M to about $25 M and I was OK with putting that kind of money into it. However, to go to a budget of $130 M means the real costs were going to come in around $160 M. That, as a taxpayer, I am not OK with.


David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Dale Chapman "I am not OK with"

Nor were most folks

Methinks it was not a language issue like SANB wants it to be It was and is a financial issue that really should be investigated N'esy Pas?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David R. Amos

Its totally a language issue. If the game would have been the Anglo games we would have heard crickets...

Fred Knox
Fred Knox
@Marc Martin How could it be a language issue. They said anybody and everybody could participate in the games. They didn't say anything about participating in the money that was going to be thrown around by the libs.

Julien Lemieux
Julien Lemieux
@Fred Knox

Q: Do you know how much Victoria's (BC) offer is for the next Commonwealth Games?

A: $955 million!

So now, tell me again this has nothing to do with language.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Fred Knox

It is just check all the post turning it to a language issue.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Julien Lemieux

That's only what its projected, the Feds will provide a lot more.

David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Julien Lemieux "So now, tell me again this has nothing to do with language."

Methinks I have the right to tell you again that it is all about the money we cannot afford to throw at such nonsense and has nothing to do with language other than what the SANB dudes wish to make of it N'esy Pas?









Douglas James 
Douglas James
Indeed, we should all be worried when organizers of such games turn a $17 million budget into a $130 million budget, seemingly without a thought for anyone but themselves.


Fred Knox
Fred Knox
@Douglas James If the libs wouldn't have lost the election they would've lined their pockets off of this one.

Gary Journeay
Gary Journeay
@Douglas James well said AND THEN said "We could do it for 62 million?? LOL... moving targets !pathetic

David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Douglas James Methinks you forgot that Kevin Arseneau of your beloved Green Party is all for hosting the games N'esy Pas?

Jim Reid
Jim Reid
@Jim Reid guess I am not permitted by CBC to say the Green Party leaders name

David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Jim Reid Thats a big No-No











Mark (Junkman) George 
Mark (Junkman) George
You should be worried, very worried............
It hopefully looks like the days of the blank (but signed) provincial cheque is over.


David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Mark (Junkman) George Dream on










Mark Murphy 
Matthew Smith
if by being even moderately responsible lends itself a black eye to being a destination, y'all don't need those friends...


David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Matthew Smith Methinks politicians don't have friends just acquaintances The doings between Julius Caesar and his buddy Brutus The Younger taught them that N'esy Pas?









Stephen Long 
Stephen Long
God, CBC is so predictable. It's not until you have lived in a democracy where debate takes place between people who hold different views that you realise how one sided CBC is. Why don't we hear from someone who actually thinks this is a good thing.


David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Stephen Long Methinks you know the answer to that as well as I N'esy Pas?






 



Stephen Long
Stephen Long
I listened to the interview this morning and had to chuckle when Lamonde noted that he hadn't estimated what the return might have been. Why was that Lamonde? Not enough time? Did you forget? I thought business people were doing this sort of planning all the time. Or was it because you thought the answer would not be appreciated by the people paying the bill.


David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Stephen Long Methinks he no idea whatsoever N'esy Pas?










Natalie Pugh  
Natalie Pugh
I would like to see an investigation into those who "organized" this fiasco explaining a breakdown of just what and where the $130 000 000 or our tax dollars was going to. I do not want this swept under the rug. Someone has some explaining to do!!


David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Natalie Pugh "I would like to see an investigation into those who "organized" this fiasco"

Good Luck getting one


  






Natalie Pugh
McKenzie King
I certainly hope it hurts our chances to host things like this. We need to stop wasting millions of dollars on these things, especially when we are beyond broke, and where the orgsanizing committee is either incompetent or deceitful. If the Chamber of Commerce wants these things to go ahead, let them pay of it.


Grant Lyon
Grant Lyon
@McKenzie King Gallant never understood budgets. He thought the NB taxpayer was his personal cash cow. Most inept, secretive, corrupt government.

David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@McKenzie King ?where the orgsanizing committee is either incompetent or deceitful"

Methinks many would agree that the organizing committee was incompetent and deceitful and possibly worse N'esy Pas?









Natalie Pugh 
Jake Quinlan
"It's quite a shame," Boudreau said. "It will definitely hurt the province in the long run and it will be very hard to attract international events of that type."

C'mon man, any event looking at NB in the future and does due diligence will understand this cancellation at this time. It's a one off situation basically. Context matters.


David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Jake Quinlan YUP











Matt Steele  
Matt Steele
It is about time that people start to look at the financial situation that N.B. is in . N.B. is one of the smallest and poorest Provinces in Canada with one of the oldest populations in the country . The prov. debt is well over 14 BILLION , and close to 18 BILLION if you add in the N.B. Power debt . The prov. is paying close to 2 MILLION PER DAY just in interest payments . Brian Gallant , with the encouragement of Trudeau's Liberals , went on a wild out of control spending spree for 4 years , and pushed taxes to the MAX . N.B. is a rapidly dying province with a very low birth rate , and high unemployment . N.B IS BROKE ; and going into debt further to play some games is ludicrous !!!


Jackie Barrett
Jackie Barrett
@Matt Steele Most of it is the New Brunswick Government's fault as a result of not fighting hard enough to expand the Irving Oil Refinery or get the Energy East Pipeline project in Saint John as opposed to import oil from the Saudi Arabians, and lack of effort to attract or retain high quality jobs including the closure of the Nutrien/Potash Corporation mine in Sussex.


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Matt Steele

they had no choice to push the taxes to the max the previous CoRservative governement was running us in the red for 4 years.

Tim Raworth
Tim Raworth
@Jackie Barrett You have no idea what you are talking about. A lot of factors come in to play when we are talking about resource development, most of which is beyond the control of NB government. They cant control the world market price for potash for example.


Tim Raworth
Tim Raworth
@Marc Martin our debit has doubled in the last 10 years. Cant blame that all on the Cons

David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Tim Raworth True

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Tim Raworth

It douvled because we didnt sell NP Power who was against selling NB Power ? The Cons and the Anglophones...Your right the Cons are not the only ones responsible....

Tim Raworth
Tim Raworth
@Marc Martin We have talked about the downfalls of selling NB power lots before. Just shows you only read and understand what you want to hear.


Shawn McShane
Shawn McShane
@Marc Martin I was at the legislature protesting the sell off of NB Power. Half the people there were Francophone, they lined up and threw boots at a dummy of Shawn Graham. It was great.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Tim Raworth

You didn't bring any true facts like I did, so you lost that argument.


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Shawn McShane

That's a lie again. Up north there was massive petition to sell it.

David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Shawn McShane Methinks Mr Martin is rather desperate again so he is resorting to insults as per his MO N'esy Pas?









Mark Murphy  
Michael Hunt
Now if Mr. Higgs would cut the funding to SANB and U of M


David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Michael Hunt We can hope but don't bet on it Methinks Mr Higgs needs to keep on the good side Mr Gauvin or his budget won't fly N'esy Pas?








Mark Murphy 
Les Cooper
Thank good this nonsense is over.
What is next??

David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Les Cooper The budget











George Smith
George Smith
Moncton and N.B. taxpayers have covered the losses at many of these events. If the business community can't invest the money for these events then they shouldn't go ahead. The City should not be risking tax monies on these events that only businesses make money on. The taxpayers are the only losers on these expensive parties.


David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@George Smith "The taxpayers are the only losers on these expensive parties."

YUP









Mark Murphy 
Thomas Imber
Dominic Leblanc is coming across as tone deaf on this issue.

His divisive attempt to make it a language issue shows once again that he and the federal Liberals put their own partisan interests ahead of everything else.


Andrew Clarkson
Andrew Clarkson
@Thomas Imber

Every time I hear the word Dominic I start to hum and sing that old Lou Monte smash Christmas single Dominic the DONKEY! Or is it that other word for a donkey!

David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Andrew Clarkson When I hear the name Dominic methinks of a different dude and wonder how his wife in Kathmandu is doing N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/ndp-gets-help-from-democracy-expert-1.629834

"After election day, Dominic Cardy is flying back home to his wife in Kathmandu, Nepal"










George Smith
George Smith
So now the Feds and the Province are playing the blame game. Why can't they just step up and admit the games weren't in the best interests of the taxpayers of N.B. and Canada? The only shame here is the bickering between the governments. I believe the vast majority of taxpayers are relieved. They'd both get more political benefit by admitting it was the wrong event at the wrong price and wrong timing.


Matt Steele
Matt Steele
@George Smith .....This is a Federal Election year ; and Dominic LeBlanc along with Justin Trudeau , wanted to use these games to show case what a great job LeBlanc has been doing for N.B. ; normally Justin Trudeau couldn't care less about N.B. . It is all just political theater with Trudeau trying to buy our votes with our own tax money . Brian Gallant tried the same tactic.....and FAILED !!!

daryl doucette
daryl doucette
@George Smith politicians will NEVER admit they were wrong.

David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@daryl doucette Methinks everybody knows I dabble in politicking and freely admit whenever I am wrong For instance I figured that either Harper or Mulcair were gonna win a minority government in the last election Was I ever wrong about that N'esy Pas?

Tim Raworth
Tim Raworth
@David R. Amos just shows how gullible people are eh. Sunny ways, sunny ways.


Tim Raworth
daryl doucette
@David R. Amos You would not make a good politician. There is no check box for " honesty" on the application form.

David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@daryl doucette I have run six times thus far with no false illusions ofever being elected However the debates allow me to tell the politicians the awful truth about themselves and the ordinary folks attending the debates get to watch me discuss my lawsuits etc with them in a public forum before they get elected and swear an oath to the Crown. Google Fundy Royal Debate to watch one


daryl doucette
daryl doucette
@David R. Amos willdo










Claude DeRoche
Claude DeRoche
The Irving COR party boy solution to fix NB finances:
return $3 billion in equalization to Ottawa if citizens refuse fracking!


Lou Bell
Lou Bell
@Claude DeRoche Don't fret ! Leblanc has a lip on! He and his SANB cohorts cannot be trusted. Their popularity is dropping faster than Trumps , and that is bad !

Lou Bell
Lou Bell
@Claude DeRoche Check out the latest popularity poll ! Methinks your favourite Party is bottoming out , bigtime !! GREAT JOB MR. HIGGS !!!!!

John O'Brien
John O'Brien
@Claude DeRoche Higgs is certainly shaming Gallant and the French as a bunch of incompetent and frauds.And he is doing it by just performing his job with focus and no political spin. That is a kind of politics we haven't seen for decades- certainly not with Liberals and not recently with Conservatives either.

David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Claude DeRoche Methinks you should read what you write before its published N'esy Pas?



Sport minister 'disappointed' by cancellation of Francophonie Games

On Wednesday Premier Blaine Higgs announced the province would be withdrawing from the Games


Minister of Science, Sport and Persons with Disabilities Kirsty Duncan says she was disappointed New Brunswick decided to withdraw from hosting the Francophonie Games in 2021. (Justin Tang/Canadian Press)


Federal Sport Minister Kirsty Duncan says she's disappointed by New Brunswick's decision to cancel its plans to host the 2021 Francophonie Games.

"This is a bid that all of Canada was excited for and welcomed," Duncan said in an interview with Information Morning Fredericton.

On Wednesday, Premier Blaine Higgs cancelled the province's commitment to host the Games because of rising costs associated with the event.


At a news conference in Fredericton, Higgs said even with a last-minute letter from the organizing committee slashing the projected budget from $130 million to $62 million, there was no guarantee costs would not rise again.


The premier learned shortly after taking office in November the original cost in New Brunswick's 2016 bid, $17 million, was wildly off the mark.

Higgs said his government would provide $10 million, the upper range of the province's original commitment when the previous Liberal government secured the Games, but not any more.

Earlier this week, Premier Blaine Higgs said New Brunswick would not host the 2021 Francophonie Games because of soaring costs. (CBC)

Despite the jump in costs for the Games, Duncan said Ottawa is especially disappointed by Higgs's decision.

She said the federal government vowed to match "dollar for dollar" the contribution of the province and the municipalities and that her government was committed to being "a full and equal partner," supporting New Brunswick's bid to host the Games from the very beginning. 

Earlier this week, Higgs said the Games would have been an important event for New Brunswick and Canada, "but there has to be a model that works financially, because it's the same with everything we do: we have to decide how we can manage this financially."


CBC News
The Francophonie Games mess, explained

 The games have been cancelled. But what's the story behind the mess? 2:31

Duncan said she felt like Ottawa and the province were making headway Tuesday and was surprised when New Brunswick withdrew its bid a day later.

"I don't think it is very sincere to come to the table 24 hours before you pull out," she said.
"We needed to talk, we needed to see a plan."

She said she was hoping New Brunswick would show ownership of the Games they had won and put forward a full business plan for consideration.


The Francophonie Games are the largest sporting and cultural event in the French-speaking world. (Hussein Malla/Associated Press)
 "We want to support Francophone communities in New Brunswick and across the country," she said.

"We felt it was an opportunity to shine a light on New Brunswick to open up experiences, ideas, perhaps markets."

'A great, great lack of vision'


Meanwhile, an award-winning New Brunswick writer is bashing the provincial government's decision to cancel the 2021 Francophonie Games.

"I wanted to be part of it. I wanted to be part of that New Brunswick that can see himself more than little," said Gabriel Robichaud, who was just awarded the 2019 Champlain Prize for excellence in Franco-Canadian literature.

"And I think we have a government that has a great, great lack of vision over that."

Robichaud said the Games were part of the reason he moved back to New Brunswick.

"I think it's disastrous. I mean, we're probably being laughed at all over the world right now because of that lack of vision."

With files from Information Morning Fredericton, Jacques Poitras




Cancelling Games in Moncton, Dieppe triggers worry over hosting future events

Chamber of commerce CEO says city has shown it can draw big events


Pierre Boudreau, a Moncton city councillor, says he's worried the province's decision to withdraw from hosting the 2021 Francophonie Games in Dieppe and Moncton will hurt the region's ability to host other large events. (Shane Magee/CBC)

The president of Athletics New Brunswick says the province's decision to pull out of holding the 2021 Francophonie Games is a "black eye" that could hurt the chance of hosting similar events in the future.

"It certainly makes it very difficult for a small region to contemplate hosting such games or championships," Marc Lalonde said in an interview with Information Morning Moncton.
Pierre Boudreau, a Moncton city councillor, echoed that view.












"It's quite a shame," Boudreau said. "It will definitely hurt the province in the long run and it will be very hard to attract international events of that type."
Hosting the Francophonie Games was pitched as a way to showcase New Brunswick to a global audience which could help lure tourists and immigrants. About 3,000 participants from more than 50 countries were expected to take part in the 10-day international arts, culture and sport event.

The mayors of Moncton and Dieppe did not provide interviews about the province's decision.

Premier Blaine Higgs said Wednesday the province was withdrawing from hosting because of the escalating cost since the former Liberal government submitted the bid in 2015.


Premier Blaine Higgs announced the province wouldn't go ahead with hosting the event due to the escalating cost. (CBC)

The cost had climbed from about $17 million to an estimated $130 million, though the organizing committee told the province recently it could bring the cost down to $62 million.

John Wishart, CEO of the Greater Moncton Chamber of Commerce, said the loss of the event is a blow to the region's businesses, from hotels to retailers and various suppliers.

The economic impact of not hosting isn't clear — in part because the cost of the event kept shifting.


Eric Mathieu Doucet said the event would generate more than $100 million in economic spinoffs in the province before he resigned as president of the organizing committee last month amid controversy about the cost of the games. (Shane Magee/CBC)

Organizers had estimated spending $130 million would result in $148 million in economic spinoffs in the province and $17 million elsewhere in Canada, though economists questioned the figures.

"It's also a loss in terms of showcasing what Greater Moncton can do," Wishart said. He added it is a lost opportunity to entice immigration to the region from francophone countries that would have participated.

Latest event lost


It's the latest major event that's failed to materialize.

Moncton sought unsuccessfully to host the 2019 Memorial Cup, the national major junior hockey championship, and the 2019 and 2020 Brier, Canada's men's curling championship.

Wishart said the region has successfully hosted events like the 2010 IAAF track and field competition, 2015 FIFA Women's World Cup matches and the 1999 Francophonie Summit.

"I think the pluses far outweigh this disappointment and that's what we need to think about going ahead," Wishart said.


Paulette Thériault, a Moncton councillor, says the news isn't all doom and gloom. (CBC)

Moncton Coun. Paulette Thériault said she doesn't think it should be viewed with doom and gloom.
"I think this is just a new challenge for us to pick up our boots and find a way to move this forward in the future," Thériault said.

A statement from the City of Moncton on Wednesday said hosting major events remains a priority for the municipality to generate economic spinoffs and "enrich our city in many ways."

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Shane Magee
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Shane Magee is a Moncton-based reporter for CBC.
With files from Information Morning Moncton

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