https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/irving-oil-president-ian-whitcomb-1.7125834

Irving Oil announces more leadership changes as president steps down

Ian Whitcomb's departure comes amid ongoing strategic review of company's future

Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon · CBC News · Posted: Feb 26, 2024 2:51 PM AST

 

 

  Ian Whitcomb has served as the president of Irving Oil for eight and a half years. (Irving Oil)

Irving Oil president Ian Whitcomb is resigning from the post as the private company, one of New Brunswick's largest employers, continues a strategic review of its future.

Whitcomb "made a personal decision to step down," after being in the role for more than eight years, the Saint John-based company announced on its website Monday.

The resignation comes on the heels of other major leadership changes at Irving Oil, which has about 4,000 employees.

As of last fall, Arthur Irving, 93, is no longer chair of the board of directors, but chair emeritus. His daughter, Sarah Irving, who was executive vice-president and widely seen as his heir apparent, is no longer part of the leadership team.

The strategic review of the company, announced last June, is continuing and "outcomes associated with it are not yet clear," Maureen Kempston-Darkes, lead director of Irving Oil's board of directors, said in a statement.

A "series of options" related to the company's future are being evaluated, including a new ownership structure, a full or partial sale, or a change in the portfolio of assets and how they are operated, the company has said.

 Irving Oil's Saint John refinery is Canada’s largest, processing about 320,000 barrels a day and producing gasoline, diesel, heating oil, jet fuel, propane and asphalt. (Mike Heenan/CBC)

Since no decisions about Whitcomb's replacement have been made, Jeff Matthews, chief financial officer of Irving Oil, "will take the leadership role in this process," Kempston-Darkes said.

Matthews, who joined Irving Oil more than 29 years ago, "has a deep knowledge of our company and the evolving needs of our customers," she said.

The rest of the senior leadership team remains unchanged, according to the release.

Could signal pending sale

Andrew Lipow, president of Lipow Oil Associates, an industry consulting firm in Houston, said there could be more behind Whitcomb's decision.

"It might be that they're nearing the finish line on the strategic review process, and that may be leading to the sale of the company to a much bigger oil industry player," he said.

"And perhaps Ian Whitcomb is reading between the lines himself, deciding that his eight and a half years at Irving Oil was enough and perhaps there's something else that he would like to do.

I think the writing is on the wall and there's going to be an ownership change, or at least a joint-venture structure.

- Tom Kloza, industry analyst

Tom Kloza, founder of Oil Price Information Service, agrees.

"I think the writing is on the wall and there's going to be an ownership change, or at least a joint-venture structure," he said.

When a company announces a strategic review — whether it's a refiner, or a producer, or a marketer —  "in at least three-quarters of the cases … usually that's corporate speak for, 'We're looking to sell the company or to cash in with some sort of an event,'" according to Kloza.

Premier Blaine Higgs, a former Irving Oil executive, has previously suggested that the federal carbon tax and clean fuel standards were among the reasons the family was exploring selling all or part of the company.

Company spokesperson Katherine d'Entremont could not immediately be reached for comment.

Will stay on until June 9

Whatever Whitcomb's reasons for stepping down, Lipow said he must be leaving on good terms, as Irving Oil said he will continue to serve as president until June 9.

"I am grateful for Ian's leadership of Irving Oil over the past eight and a half years," Arthur Irving said in a statement.

Whitcomb helped "lead the company through a significant period of growth," he said, wishing him "the very best in the future."

Arthur Irving, 93, is now chairman emeritus of Irving Oil, according to the company's website, and 'continues to maintain a respected advisory role for the board and its activities.' (Michel Corriveau/Radio-Canada)

In the company-issued statement, Whitcomb said he is "very proud of our team and what we have accomplished together."

He is also grateful for the opportunity and mentorship, he added.

As president, Whitcomb has been responsible for the day-to-day management of Irving Oil and the relationship with the board, guiding the company's strategy and keeping it focused on its goals, according to the website.

Former CFO joins board

Earlier this month, Irving Oil announced to employees that Jon McKenzie was rejoining the company as a board member.

McKenzie, the president and CEO of Cenovus Energy, based in Calgary, previously served as the chief financial officer and chief commercial officer for Irving Oil, according to the internal Feb. 6 memo, obtained by CBC News.

"John brings important industry and company-specific knowledge to our business at a time when the business is facing important questions related to its future, but is also equally focused on strong performance," Arthur Irving said in the memo.

• Who could buy Irving Oil and what could it mean to Saint John?

McKenzie has more than 30 years of finance and operations experience in the Canadian oil and gas industry, it says.

At Irving Oil, he was responsible for all supply, trading and commercial aspects of the company, including co-ordinating business development projects involving pipelines, rail and terminal operations.

"I welcome the opportunity to continue to contribute to the success of Irving Oil," McKenzie said in the memo.

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69 Comments 

 

David Amos 

One former Irving Oil boss I respect immensely is Arthur's son Kenneth 

 

 

 

David Amos 

"Premier Blaine Higgs, a former Irving Oil executive, has previously suggested that the federal carbon tax and clean fuel standards were among the reasons the family was exploring selling all or part of the
company."

Yea Right

 

 

 

David Amos

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"Company spokesperson Katherine d'Entremont could not immediately be
reached for comment."

She lots to say when she worked for GNB

 

 


Matt Steele
Canada has certainly taken a hit over the past EIGHT years with the current FEDERAL government which has created massive housing shortages, hyper inflation , over whelmed education , healthcare , and even food banks as the FEDERAL government debt has nearly DOUBLED in the last EIGHT years from a little over 600 BILLION , to a current 1.2 TRILLION . So it only make sense that Canadian based companies are looking to jump ship as Canada self destructs due to FEDERAL government policies . The last one out , turn out the lights please as elections have consequences .

Le Wier
Reply to Matt Steele
How long before Higgs follows suit with Alberta and wants NB out of the national pharmacare deal?


valmond landry
Reply to Matt Steele
CANADA is one of the best country to live in sir.

 

Matt Steele
Reply to Le Wier
There will be no Pharmacare Program as there is no money to pay for it as Health Care is already overwhelmed . Everything that the Federal Government is promising will never happen as there is ZERO money ; and even the Canadian Military has been gutted .


Noel Fowles
Reply to Matt Steele
we do not have hyper inflation. We have the second lowest inflation of the G20. Hyper inflation was 17%, but maybe you forgot that, and that was without a pandemic.

What is "over whelmed" education?

We just went through a pandemic. All expert economists, except you it seems, said stimulation of the economy was necessary to fend off a depression. Not a recession.

Regarding the Irving refinery, it became a bit of a white elephant when Line 9 was reversed allowing Alberta oil to move to Quebec refineries. It is cheaper than the world price Irving was paying.


Ron parker
Reply to Noel Fowles
MS like to blame everything on JT


Le Wier
Reply to Matt Steele
Only time will tell. Yes the CAF has been under funded for decades, and Canada is being held to its NATO pledge of 2%.


David Amos
Reply to Le Wier
Of that I have no doubt


David Amos
Reply to Le Wier
Do you know about NATO and I?


Le Wier
Reply to David Amos
No what is your NATO connection?


David Amos
Reply to Le Wier
Greta Bossenmaier




Allison Ritt
I am surprised Higgs hasn't yet applied for the job. It is right up his alley, or is he right up theirs?

David Amos
Reply to Allison Ritt
Methinks Higgy wants to be a Senator or an Ambassador N'esy Pas?




Al Clark
Perhaps they can see what Mickey cannot? ;-)

David Amos
Reply to Al Clark
I know I can




June Arnott
The Irvings better not put in writing that any company that buys gets the same tax breaks. The stranglehold on NB taxpayers could be near its end! Now lets stop the spraying of toxic chemicals in Nature.


Jim Beam
Reply to June Arnott
I can't wait to meet our new emperors!


Deborah Reddon
Reply to June Arnott
Well said, June. Irvings have not paid their share. They get the best deal in all of Canada for Crown Land and then, they make the taxpayer's of NB pay for the glyphosate which is sprayed on our land.
No other company in Canada has it so good. Would be the best thing for NB if they sold up.


David Amos
Reply to Jim Beam
Me too



 

Janice Belliveau
Just a new label on a tainted can of Tuna......


GeorgeW Biggs
Reply to Janice Belliveau
But the story isn't about NB fish products.


June Arnott
Reply to Janice Belliveau
Pretty much yes, lets hope though the new owners pay their fair share of taxes. We all know the Irvings dont


David Amos
Reply to GeorgeW Biggs
It smells the same




Rosco holt
Higgs makes sure that the refinery has a great profit margin so Irving can download it. Higgs's private pension will probably get a bump from everything he's done for his master.


David Amos
Reply to Rosco holt
Of course

David Wilson
Just one pariah replacing another.


David Amos
Reply to David Wilson
True




Murray Brown
Higgs's job is secure... Hopefully sooner rather than later, his 'paid' leave of absence will be coming to an end and he can return to the Irving's to run their empire fulltime.


MR Cain
Reply to Murray Brown
He has retired and there is no future for him at Irving, given his poor financial management skills.


David Amos
Reply to Murray Brown
Dream on

 
Lou Bell
Cue all the Liberal " conspiracy theories . We see all the stories about Irving in Saint John , property taxes , and everything else . all the while nothing about their properties in Moncton . Sounds like
someone wants to protect their tax base in Moncton . Face it , all the Irving stories with Higgs mentioned are nothing more than politicalo footballs from the media and the Liberals out of Moncton . If I was a resident of Saint John I'd be quite upset with how the Moncton Liberals and media have become involved in Saint John's business .


Kyle Woodman
Reply to Lou Bell
Cue Lou with all his conspiracy theories.

G. Timothy Walton
Reply to Lou Bell
What conspiracy? He was probably offered a more exciting role somewhere that will give him the stock options Irving can't offer.


Alison Jackson
Reply to Lou Bell
So...this article about the Irving Empire is really about how liberals ruined NB??
Ok,lol.


Ron parker
Reply to Lou Bell
I think you need a tow truck with all that spinning.


Deborah Reddon
Reply to Lou Bell
Oh come on Lou, the whole Province of NB has been pinned under the thumb of Irvings.


David Amos
Reply to Kyle Woodman
Welcome back to the circus (BTW Lou is a she)
 

https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2023/10/who-could-buy-irving-oil-and-what-could.html

Saturday 21 October 2023

Who could buy Irving Oil and what could it mean to Saint John?

 

 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/irving-oil-possible-sale-leadership-changes-arthur-irving-chairman-sarah-1.7002792

 

Who could buy Irving Oil and what could it mean to Saint John?

Speculation about a possible sale continues amid recent leadership changes and strategic review

 

Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon · CBC News · Posted: Oct 20, 2023 5:17 PM ADT

 

 

Arthur Irving, 93, is now chair emeritus of Irving Oil, according to the company's website. (Michel Corriveau/Radio-Canada)

As speculation swirls about a possible sale of Irving Oil, an industry analyst says potential buyers could include another major oil company, some smaller firms, or even a government.

Meanwhile, the mayor of Saint John says she hopes any potential new owner will be "good corporate citizens as well and continue the philanthropic path we have come to expect."

Patrick De Haan, the head of petroleum analysis at GasBuddy, and Mayor Donna Reardon were reacting to the news this week about leadership changes at Irving Oil.

Arthur Irving, who was chair of the board of directors and responsible for Irving Oil's "vision," is now listed on the company's website as the chair emeritus, who "continues to maintain a respected advisory role for the board."

His daughter, Sarah Irving, who was executive vice-president and widely seen as the 93-year-old's heir apparent, is no longer part of the leadership team, according to the company's website.

The changes follow Irving Oil's announcement in June of an internal strategic review that could result in "a new ownership structure, a full or partial sale, or a change in the portfolio of [the company's] assets" and how it operate them.

Company spokesperson Katherine d'Entremont has not responded to requests from CBC News for comments on the changes. 

'Unsettling'

It's "a little unsettling to see the leadership changing at Irving Oil," De Haan said. 

The company, founded in 1924 by Arthur's father, K.C. Irving, operates Canada's largest refinery in Saint John, which is "one of the most critical on the eastern seaboard," he said.

It processes about 320,000 barrels a day, producing gasoline, diesel, heating oil, jet fuel, propane and asphalt. And De Haan estimated it exports as much as three-quarters of its refined products to the United States.

"Much of the northeastern markets rely on this refinery for diesel, for heating oil," he said.

 Irving Oil's Saint John refinery began operations in 1960 with a production capacity of 40,000 barrels per day. Today, it is Canada’s largest refinery, with a capacity of more than 300,000 barrels a day. (Mike Heenan/CBC)

If Irving Oil does decide to put the refinery on the market, its "versatility" and ability to export to the global market, including the U.S., Europe and Asia, would make it more valuable, said De Haan.

"I would think a private company would be interested in this" — either a major oil refinery company, another major oil company, or even some smaller firms, which have shown interest in buying refineries in recent years, he said, pointing to PBF Energy in the United States as an example.

• Arthur Irving no longer chair of Irving Oil, fuels more speculation about N.B. company's future

It could also be a public company, and "it wouldn't be impossible that there could be also some state-owned operations that could be interested in this," such as governments in the Middle East, for example.

"A lot of oil-producing nations are looking for homes into markets to sell their oil."

Irving Oil also owns Ireland's only refinery, Whitegate, which processes up to 75,000 barrels a day, and "more than 900 fuelling locations and a network of distribution terminals spanning Eastern Canada and New England," according to its website.

Environmental requirements could decrease value

More stringent federal environmental regulations, however, "could be a problem," said De Haan.

There are clean fuel regulations, designed to lower the carbon intensity of fuel suppliers — the amount of carbon dioxide they emit per unit of product — by 15 per cent by 2030. There is also the federal carbon tax, designed to nudge consumers toward other options, such as electric cars or public transit.

 Patrick De Haan, head of petroleum analysis at GasBuddy, said the push toward electric vehicles in both Canada and the United States could affect the value of the Saint John refinery in a potential sale. (CBC)

Although De Haan contends Irving Oil has done "a tremendous job environmentally improving," this "certainly does diminish the value."

The Saint John refinery is New Brunswick's largest greenhouse gas emitter.

In addition, refinery sales have been "less liquid than they were decades ago, and so there may be a limited amount of potential buyers suited," said De Haan.

In fact, some refineries for sale in the U.S. have not even found buyers, he said.

"So it's a very difficult market right now."

Mayor fears loss of community involvement

For Saint John's mayor, the idea that the refinery could be sold to a "huge conglomerate" raises concerns.

Irving Oil has been "an integral partner in SJ in supporting the community," Reardon said in a written statement.

"Their personal interest in SJ is driven by the fact they are local. They live and work in the city — they are not absentee landlords.

"This bond with SJ is demonstrated in their community involvement and the many partnerships over the years."

She pointed to the Irving Oil Field House, the YMCA of Greater Saint John and the Imperial Theatre's Irving Oil Auditorium as examples that help make the city "livable, vibrant, attractive to young people and families and can drive growth."

Saint John Mayor Donna Reardon said even refinery shutdowns for maintenance generate a lot of spinoffs for local businesses by bringing in many outside workers. (Hadeel Ibrahim/C

A new owner would also have its own headquarters, which would likely mean the loss of local executive positions and the viability of Irving Oil's "legacy build" headquarters uptown, said Reardon.

Although she suspects the refinery would continue to operate in Saint John, she note that when shipbuilding moved to Halifax, many young people "followed the work," and the city's birth rate "dropped significantly."

"We don't want to lose our young people."

Irving Oil is one of New Brunswick's largest employers, with about 4,000 employees.

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59 Comments 

 

 

David R. Amos

One former Irving Oil boss I respect immensely is Arthur's son Kenneth
 

 

David R. Amos

 "For Saint John's mayor, the idea that the refinery could be sold to a "huge conglomerate" raises concerns.

Irving Oil has been "an integral partner in SJ in supporting the community," Reardon said in a written statement"

Yea Right 

 

 

Alison Jackson 

Irving is getting out,lol

They see something the rest of you don't.

 

David R. Amos
Reply to Alison Jackson   

Some of us see more than you  

 

 

David R. Amos
Reply to Alison Jackson 

Arthur Irving is 93 I bet he is beginning to forget a lot of things he should have regretted long ago

  

Bill Graham

The question is why would anyone want to buy out Irving given a hostile federal government to all things oil and gas? 

 

 

David R. Amos
Reply to Bill Graham

The lion's share of Irving Oil's customers are in the USA

 

 

 

Bob Fiset  

Would not be surprised to see Total Energies buy the whole thing. A little wiki background :" TotalEnergies SE is a French multinational integrated energy and petroleum company founded in 1924 and is one of the seven supermajor oil companies. Its businesses cover the entire oil and gas chain, from crude oil and natural gas exploration and production to power generation, transportation, refining, petroleum product marketing, and international crude oil and product trading. TotalEnergies is also a large-scale chemicals manufacturer.

TotalEnergies has its head office in the Tour Total in La Défense district in Courbevoie, west of Paris. In the 2023 Forbes Global 2000, TotalEnergies was ranked as the 21st largest public company in the world.

Why else would someone open a private french school in St-John? Just watch, once the school is up and running, Total Energies will bring famillies that need schooling for their kids.

 

David R. Amos
Reply to Bob Fiset

This was in the news while I was running in Fundy Royal again

Oil-for-Food Appeal Begins in Paris

10/14/2015

The Oil-for-Food appeal is being heard in Paris from October 14 to November 6. Although the charges against Total S.A. were dismissed in the lower court, the company is being retried, along with four former Group employees.

The Oil-for-Food program was introduced in 1996 by the U.N. Security Council to ease the hardship caused by the sanctions imposed against Iraq in 1990. The program allowed Iraq to sell its oil subject to specific terms and conditions, with the proceeds deposited to an escrow account used to purchase food, drugs and staples, under the oversight of the United Nations. The program was suspended following the 2003 invasion of Iraq by the United States and its allies.

Total is being prosecuted for bribing foreign officials, on the grounds that between 2000 and 2002 it made extra payments to Iraq when purchasing oil, bypassing the U.N. escrow account.

Total will show that it legally purchased Iraqi oil in the market, in compliance with the Oil-for-Food Program rules and with all the required authorizations.

 

David R. Amos
Reply to David R. Amos

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Along with its significant roster of subsidiary companies, Power Corporation of Canada (Power Corporation) manages one of the largest pools of wealth in the country, with assets totalling over C$445.5 billion.18 Power Corporation’s complex web of subsidiaries includes the insurance, investment services, communications, media, energy, waste and mineral extraction sectors. Through its controlling share of key subsidiary Power Financial, Power Corporation operates two of Canada’s largest non-bank financial services and insurance companies: IGM Financial and Great-West Lifeco.

 

 

 

Jos Allaire   

They were such good corporate citizens paying their just share of taxes and never asking anything in return, good citizens like that is what the good mayor of Saint John means to say.

 

 

David R. Amos
Reply to Jos Allaire 

Surely you jest 

 

 

David R. Amos
Reply to Jos Allaire  

I bet the not so good mayor can't even remember talking to me years ago let alone recalling why I ran in Saint John Habour while intervening in the NEB hearing about the Emera Pipeline Project 

 

 

 

 

 

john mihaljevich  

All I hope for is that no Chinese, Saudi or other foreign interest is allowed to go anywhere near this. Do you hear me Trudeau and other sellers of Canadian resources and industries? Foreign ownership must stop!

 

 

David R. Amos
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Reply to john mihaljevich

Do ya think Trudeau The Younger ever followed Harper's orders?

Government OK's foreign bids for Nexen, Progress Energy

Bids by future state-owned enterprises in oilsands to be approved only in exceptional circumstances

Laura Payton · CBC News · Posted: Dec 07, 2012 12:32 PM AST

 

Chris McNee
Reply to john mihaljevich

Judas Trudeau heard you loud and clear :)

 

 

 

 

Matthew Steele 

If Irving bails while Higgs is premier thats a lot of egg on his face. Tarnishing what little legacy he has. I'm all for it. 

 

 

David R. Amos
Reply to Matthew Steele

Higgy needs to review the email I sent him in 2010 when he was just another candidate in the election that summer. It was about what went down between Harper, Brad Wall, China, BHP, Potash Corp and I  

 

 

 

 

Fred Brewer  

This is like trying to sell a horse and buggy business while Detroit was ramping up its automobile manufacturing business. Good luck with the sale.

  

 

Scotty Boy

Reply to Fred Brewer

less than 30% of the World's Energy comes from Renewable resources, your Analogy is quite a piece off ...

partly why people are upset, being Forced into a Technology that does not yet exist and at a significant increase in Cost ...

 

Fred Brewer 

Reply to Scotty Boy

Really? But there was a time when the horse and buggy trade had 70% of the world market and cars only had 30%. Get my point?  

 

 

David R. Amos 

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Reply to Scotty Boy

Ignore Mr Brewer Methinks the horse and buggy trade is gonna make a comeback.

Perhaps we should quit selling them

A contentious export: The anatomy of Canada's horsemeat industry

From the feedlot to the dinner plate, horses bred for slaughter serve a niche market

Wallis Snowdon · CBC News · Posted: Oct 17, 2023 8:00 AM ADT

 

 

 

 

JOhn D Bond 

 If a buyer does make an offer. Canada should make sure that it is not in any way shape or form associated with a foreign government or perhaps even a sovereign fund managed by a foreign government.

There are plenty of businesses and funds with deep enough pockets that are looking for stable and predictable cash flows for 10-20-30 40 yrs or more as long term investments that could purchase this.

 

Timothy Walton 

Reply to JOhn D Bond

I can't imagine we have a say in it. Deal is probably already done anyway.  

 

  

JOhn D Bond

Reply to Allan Marven

Remember there is this thing call the competition act.   

 

 

David R. Amos
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Reply to Allan Marven

Remember when BHP planned a hostile takeover of Potash Corp during the NB election in 2010? Trust that Higgy et al know what I did about it but nothing was revealed

BHP's bid for PotashCorp: how it unfolded

CBC News · Posted: Nov 02, 2010 12:28 PM ADT

 

 

 

Fred Brewer 

Reply to Graham McCormack 

I sure hope you are right Graham, but when the Feds bought Trans Mountain Pipelines I lost all hope that governments are smart, and that includes provincial governments.

 

 

 

 

Eugene Peabody 

It was reported on this past year that refinery margin level had jumped from 11 cents a liter in 2019 to over 40 cents today plus another up to 8 cents recently by the province . That should give any buyer lots of profit to fund the purchase.

 

 

David R. Amos
Reply to Eugene Peabody  

Well put but there the liabilities to be considered

 

 

 

 

Chuck Michaels  

If the government buys it - it is doomed. We have only to look at NB Power to see the curve downward that it would most likely follow after all the "friends" are tagged for plum positions... Perhaps if a certain metal recycling firm in that area were to acquire it... THAT might get interesting!

 

 

David R. Amos
Reply to Chuck Michaels

Dream on

 

 

Chuck Michaels 
Reply to Chuck Michaels 

More of a nightmare scenario for sure... EITHER one... 

 

 

David R. Amos
Reply to Chuck Michaels

Sometimes dreams come true particularly the bad ones

 

 

 

 

SarahRose Werner

Irving's been operating a refinery on that site for almost a century. Who knows what's seeped into the soil over the years? Irving should be required to put a portion of the sale proceeds into a trust fund to pay for the future cost of site remediation once operating an oil refinery there becomes economically unfeasible. Once it's cleaned up, the site can been used for something useful, like homes and/or food production. 

 

Michael Cain

Reply to SarahRose Werner

There are more than 1000 contaminated sites in New Brunswick, most of them from petroleum products. We have no legislation for clean-up nor reclamation of land.

 

 

Dee MacDonald 

Reply to Michael Cain

From any government to date.  

 

 

Ray Smith

Reply to SarahRose Werner

Bye don't let the door hit u on your way out.

 

 

David R. Amos
Reply to Ray Smith  

Oh my

 

 

 

 

Jos Allaire 

I have a horse buggy manufacturing business for sale. Any takers❓

 

 

David R. Amos
Reply to Jos Allaire 

How much? 

 

 

Jos Allaire

Reply to Jos Allaire   

A few 🥜🥜. 

 

 

David R. Amos
Reply to Jos Allaire 

What is that some form of crypto currency?  

 

 

 

 

William Peters  

No one should be allowed to buy it without putting up a 10 billion dollar damage deposit.

 

 

David R. Amos
Reply to William Peters  

Good point

 

 

 

 

Fred Brewer  

 As speculation swirls about a possible sale of Irving Oil, an industry analyst says potential buyers could include another major oil company, some smaller firms, or even a government.

A government? If Higgs buys Irving Oil for the province, would that not be the biggest conflict of interest ever?

 

Timothy Walton 

Reply to Fred Brewer

Biggest so far. 

 

 

Michael Cain

Reply to Fred Brewer

Not a worry, we can't afford it. nt to date.   

 

 

Graham McCormack

Reply to Fred Brewer

Pretty sure they aren't talking about any North American government.

 

 

David R. Amos
Reply to Graham McCormack

Me too

 

 

Fred Brewer 

Reply to Graham McCormack 

I sure hope you are right Graham, but when the Feds bought Trans Mountain Pipelines I lost all hope that governments are smart, and that includes provincial governments.

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/archdiocese-moncton-lawsuits-sexual-abuse-payments-1.7127932 

 

Dozens of victims get payments from church after sexual abuse by some N.B. priests

Archdiocese of Moncton says it has paid $5.4 million to victims

 

Shane Magee · CBC News · Posted: Feb 29, 2024 4:42 PM AST 

 

 

Archbishop Guy Desrochers says the Archdiocese of Moncton has recently paid about $5.4 million to 78 people who alleged sexual abuse by priests. (Pascal Raiche-Nogue/Radio-Canada)

The Archdiocese of Moncton recently paid about $5.4 million to dozens of victims who sued the Catholic Church alleging sexual abuse by some priests.

The payments bring an end to dozens of lawsuits that have been filed over more than a decade involving multiple priests in southeast New Brunswick.

While some of the victims previously received partial payments after settling the cases, the church argued its finances — including a dispute with its insurer — meant it couldn't pay the full amount until recently.

Archbishop of Moncton Guy Desrochers announced the payments in a Jan. 30 letter to parishioners. He said in an interview this week that the payments complete the compensation to 78 victims.

Desrochers said the archdiocese has spent close to $24 million over the last 13 years. 

The letter says Desrochers and his predecessor, Valéry Vienneau, began a fundraising push last year that led to "numerous" donations from people outside the diocese.

"Without hiding anything from these possible donors, I explained the dramatic financial situation that would lead us to contemplate insolvency," Desrochers said in the letter. 

"Thanks to their contributions, we were able to meet our financial and legal requirements, with a payment deadline of December 29, 2023."

Desrochers told CBC News that donors were in Canada and the United States.

He said of the $5.4 million, $2.2 million was from the Archdiocese of Moncton Foundation.

Lawyer Brian Murphy says the payments offer some closure to victims he represented. (Shane Magee/CBC)

Three lawyers who represented victims confirmed to Radio-Canada and CBC that their clients have now been paid.

"There's some closure," lawyer Brian Murphy said in an interview. 

"There's still disgust that it took so long to make it happen. And I think that that's a concern for all of the victims for sure. That's sort of an ongoing victimization, I guess, but it's over. I mean that this is the good news. The lawsuits are over."

The victims in the lawsuits didn't take part in an out-of-court conciliation process the archdiocese organized that was led by retired Supreme Court of Canada Justice Michel Bastarache. That process led to payments totalling $10.6 million to 109 victims, CBC previously reported.

The Our Lady of the Assumption Cathedral on St. George Street in Moncton. (Pascal Raiche-Nogue/Radio-Canada)

Robert Talach, an Ontario-based lawyer representing 26 victims recently paid, said they can now use the funds to improve their lives.

But Talach said the wait for the settlement payments means its value has decreased as the cost of living has increased.  Money that once could have bought a home, for instance, could no longer cover that cost, he said. 

Talach said some victims agreed to settle for lesser amounts based on the expectation they'd quickly receive the funds. 

"I think it's shameful, the fact that the local Catholic community raised millions and millions of dollars for an ugly old building in downtown Moncton," Talach said, referring to the Our Lady of the Assumption Cathedral. 

"At the same time, victims of sexual abuse by priests were scraping by, waiting for meager partial payments from the diocese to materialize."

Murphy was also critical of the archdiocese, which has sold properties and sued its insurer to get it to cover the cost of the settlements. 

"These are all, you know, internal problems of the church, and I understand their point of view," Murphy said. 

"However, I represent the victims who waited and waited and waited, making all of this much worse for them. And it's a really sad story, really, even though it is all over."

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Desrochers defended his predecessor's actions to Radio-Canada, saying jobs were cut, properties sold and that parishes have made sacrifices.

Desrochers said the completion of the payments means the church can close a dark chapter.

"That said, this is not to say that victims no longer have a place," Desrochers said. "We continue to pray for them. We have compassion for all of this.

"But we are happy to be able to shift our focus from that. It's been 13 years. We must turn the page and now we are able to do it."

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Moncton archdiocese, insurer reach settlement in lawsuit over sex abuse compensation

Funds will be used to pay claims for assaults by priests between 1955 and 1984, archbishop says

 

Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon · CBC News · Posted: Sep 20, 2022 3:22 PM ADT

 

 

 Archbishop Valéry Vienneau said it has been 'a difficult process both for victims and for the archdiocese alike.'

The Catholic Archdiocese of Moncton has reached a settlement in a multimillion dollar lawsuit against its insurance company regarding compensation paid to victims of sexual abuse by priests.

Although the details of the agreement with the Co-operators General Insurance Company are subject to a confidentiality clause, the resulting funds will be used to pay claims for sexual assaults that occurred in the archdiocese between 1955 and 1984, according to a statement issued by Archbishop Valéry Vienneau.

"The settlement made does involve some compromise, but it provides immediate certainty, particularly in light of advice that the pending court hearing would be put over for another year due to a shortage of judges," he said.

The case had been scheduled for trial in October.

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The archdiocese confirmed it resolved a dispute with the Co-operators over the insurer's liability coverage of the archdiocese between 1977 and 1999, following two days of mediation in the Court of King's Bench.

"The certainty of resolution now will soon allow us to bring compensation and closure to victims and allow our archdiocese to again devote its full attention to service to our parishioners and those reliant upon archdiocesan services," Vienneau said.

"We regret all the injury caused to the victims and acknowledge their patience."

The Co-operators declined to comment.

Diocese argued policy covered 'bodily injury'

The archdiocese filed the lawsuit in 2013 to recoup $4.2 million it had paid out to victims of sexual abuse.

Court documents obtained by CBC News revealed the diocese had paid a total of $10.6 million to 109 victims through a confidential compensation process run by former Supreme Court justice Michel Bastarache. It's estimated victims were each awarded between $15,000 and $300,000, depending on the severity of the abuse, how old they were when it started, and how many years it lasted.

The diocese claimed $4.2 million of that fell within 1977 to 1999, when the church had an insurance policy with the Co-operators that included coverage for "bodily injury caused intentionally by … the archdiocese."

But the Co-operators argued the diocese committed an intentional act when it failed to supervise and discipline members of the clergy who committed the abuses, and that it failed in its obligation to tell the insurance company as soon as it became aware of the abuse.

The Catholic Archdiocese of Moncton will undertake a final reckoning of amounts due under the settlements and its available assets and move to resolve compensation arrangements over the next several months, Vienneau said. (Radio Canada)

The archdiocese has already funded settlements arising out of the Bastarache process, said Vienneau.

"Over the next several months," it will use the insurance funds coupled with available archdiocesan funds to pay remaining claims, "most of which had been settled subject to the outcome of the lawsuit against Co-Operators."

No other details will be released, he said.

There should not be a victim or survivor of clergy abuse in the archdiocese of Moncton that is not compensated by Christmas Day this year.

- Robert Talach, lawyer representing victims

Lawyer Robert Talach, who represents some of the victims, said it's "positive" an agreement has finally been reached after nearly a decade, but waiting another several months for compensation is "inadequate."

"It should be coming weeks," he said, noting some of the victims reached tentative settlements nearly eight years ago.

"There should not be a victim or survivor of clergy abuse in the archdiocese of Moncton that is not compensated by Christmas Day this year. So let's sharpen our pencils and let's get to work," said Talach, who leads the sexual abuse department for the London, Ont.-based Beckett Personal Injury Lawyers.

"They've got the funds now, apparently, so there should be no greater priority of this Christian institution than to get resolution, healing and compensation to these individuals — now."

Lawyer Robert Talach said some of the victims had deals that the diocese pay, 'high or hell water, come early next year. So I mean the rubber was hitting the road pretty soon.' (Beckett Personal Injury Lawyers)

Talach said the "vast majority" of the agreements were reached in 2015 "on the promise that they would be settled with their insurance company in the coming months."

"That's why this language of 'months' spooks me, because I've heard it before. I've heard 'months' and it turned into seven years and counting," he said.

He noted the value of those settlements has "dwindled" over the years with inflation. "And there's interest that will be inadequately compensated for."

In addition, "they took less money then because they thought they were going to get paid then," he said.

Talach also raised concerns about the confidential terms of the agreement.

"We're not going to know if the diocese in the end spends all that money they got, or what the real fiscal outcome of that settlement was."

In 2017, Vienneau told CBC News getting insurance to pay was the church's last hope, with virtually no money left in its coffers. Otherwise, the archdiocese might be forced to declare bankruptcy, he had said.

Provides closure, relief for victims

Moncton lawyer Brian Murphy said the settlement is "a relief" for the nine victims he represents, "all of whom have suffered physical and psychological damage.

"This is a little more than a payment of a contract debt. This is closure on something that's been deeply hurtful to them in terms of anxiety and depression and life-altering things for them," he said.

"The other thing that's important to recognize is that many of them have physical ailments that mandate that the church and the Co-operators insurance company move with some dispatch because some of my clients are not well.

"So we hope that, you know, before Christmas at least, in the spirit of that season, that the church would see to the payment of everybody's claims. I have no reason to think that wouldn't be possible."

The archdiocese asks "that God grant peace to every victim of abuse in the archdiocese, those who have resolved claims and those who have yet to do so," said Vienneau, and it asks for their "continued patience while [it takes] the necessary steps to resolve remaining claims and complete settlements."

"Our implementation of stringent guidelines and procedures for clergy and volunteers will hopefully prevent any repeat of such aggressions."

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Diocese of Moncton suing Co-Operators Insurance for $4.2M

The Diocese of Moncton wants Co-Operators General Insurance to pay $4.2 million for abuse claims

 

Jennifer Choi · CBC News · Posted: Dec 10, 2015 9:19 PM AST 

 

 

Photo of Father Camille Leger who is accused of sexual abuse while he was serving in the Diocese of Moncton. (CBC)

The Diocese of Moncton has filed a civil lawsuit against Co-Operators General Insurance to recoup $4.2 million dollars it paid out to victims of sexual abuse.

This case comes on the heels of another civil lawsuit in which the Diocese of Bathurst is seeking $3.3 million from Aviva Insurance. 

Judge Stephen McNally is the presiding judge in both cases. The arguments in both cases are similar. 

Both dioceses participated in a confidential compensation process run by Michel Bastarache. The former Supreme Court justice interviewed approximately two-hundred victims and awarded them compensation based on the age of the victim when assaulted, the severity of abuse and the frequency of abuse. 

Former Supreme Court Justice, Michel Bastarache was in charge of a confidential compensation process for abuse victims in the Bathurst and Moncton diocese. ((Jacques Boissinot/Canadian Press))

Court documents obtained by CBC revealed that the Diocese of Moncton has paid a total of $10.6 million to victims of abuse through the Bastarache process.

The diocese claims that $4.2 million dollars of that total falls within the time period in which the church had an insurance policy with the Co-operators.

That policy dates from 1977 to 1999.

Bastarache awarded compensation to 109 people who were abused by priests in the Diocese of Moncton. 

The victims named multiple priests as abusers including Father Camille Leger, Father Irois Despres and Father Yvon Arsenault. Arsenault now faces criminal charges in connection to alleged assaults.

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Co-Operators Insurance states it has no obligation to help the Diocese of Moncton pay for the Bastarache process which it considers "voluntary".

In its statement of defence, Co-Operators claims the church is "excluded from coverage." 

The diocese argument is based on the language of its insurance policy which it claims only had a significant change in 1996, when Co-Operators excluded sexual abuse from its coverage.

It argues that based on the wording of its policy before 1996, "bodily injury caused intentionally by or at the direction of the insured," the diocese itself is is not liable. 

 

Father Yvon Arsenault faces allegations of sexual abuse dating back 40 years. (CBC)

The church claims it did not intentionally cause bodily harm, rather it was the priests who were the abusers.

Co-Operators argues the diocese committed an intentional act when it failed to supervise and discipline members of the clergy who committed the abuses. 

The insurance company also believes the church had an obligation to advise them as soon as they became aware of abuses.

The diocese argues that victims of sexual abuse did not come forward to claim damages until the 1990s and 2000s. 

"There is no wording in the policy which called for the Archdiocese to inform the insurers of any potential claims of abuse."

Judge McNally will hear from the lawyers representing both sides at the Court of Queen's Bench in Moncton on Monday.

The Diocese of Moncton is requesting to skip a trial and have the judge make a ruling. 

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The lawyers Brian Murphy, Michel Bastarache,Rob Talach and the RCMP must admit that it ain't over until the Fat Lady Sings

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https://beckettinjurylawyers.com/lawyers/robert-talach Robert is a senior partner at Beckett and leads the Sexual Abuse Department. Robert has served as a Canadian Forces Reservist since 1988 and deployed on the United Nations peacekeeping mission in Bosnia during the mid 1990’s. His military service has been recognized with induction into the Order of Military Merit. He has assisted those who can no longer serve due to injury through his pro bono work with the Ontario Trial Lawyers Association’s Trial Lawyers for Veteran’s Program. Robert applies his military discipline to his legal work, making him a formidable lawyer. When he is not working as a lawyer or serving as a soldier, Robert cherishes spending time with his family and also tries to stay physically fit in this busy world. rtalach@beckettinjurylawyers.com 519-673-6244 Ext. 31 ---------- Original message ---------- From: "OfficeofthePremier, Office PREM:EX" <Premier@gov.bc.ca> Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2019 01:23:46 +0000 Subject: Automatic reply: A little Deja Vu from the Maritimes for the lawyers Michel Bastarache and Rob Talach To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com> Hello, Thank you for taking the time to write. I appreciate hearing feedback and suggestions from the people of British Columbia as we work together to build a better BC. Due to the volume of incoming messages, this is an automated response to let you know that your email has been received and will be reviewed at the earliest opportunity. 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Sincerely, John Horgan Premier ---------- Original message ---------- From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2019 21:23:41 -0400 Subject: A little Deja Vu from the Maritimes for the lawyers Michel Bastarache and Rob Talach To: SWOntario@snapnetwork.org, jeboyle@rogers.com, marion.kelly12@hotmail.ca, SNAPVancouver@snapnetwork.org, laura.clementson@cbc.ca, Gillian.Findlay@cbc.ca Cc: motomaniac333@gmail.com, mbastarache@plaideurs.ca, rtalach@beckettinjurylawyers.com, Chuck.Thompson@cbc.ca, sylvie.gadoury@radio-canada.ca, mcu@justice.gc.ca, barbara.massey@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,  premier@ontario.ca, premier@gnb.ca, PREMIER@gov.ns.ca, premier@gov.ab.ca, scott.moe@gov.sk.ca, premier@gov.nt.ca, premier@gov.yk.ca, premier@gov.bc.ca, premier@leg.gov.mb.ca, premier@gov.nl.ca, premier@gov.pe.ca, press@larouchepac.com, Newsroom@globeandmail.com, steve.murphy@ctv.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/pedophile-priests-56-civil-lawsuits-1.4401729 56 lawsuits against Catholic Church that allege sexual abuse are before N.B. courts Every month, new legal action is taken against the church in Moncton, Bathurst and Edmundston Gabrielle Fahmy · CBC News · Posted: Nov 15, 2017 6:00 AM AT Number shocks former judge The 56 new lawsuits were all filed after an extensive conciliation process. Between 2012 and 2014, retired judge Michel Bastarache, who was brought in by the church, spoke to hundreds of victims and worked out a compensation formula for the church to pay them all. In the end, the Archdiocese of Moncton had to come up with $10.6 million for victims, and the Diocese of Bathurst $5.5 million. Victims received between $15,000 and $300,000, depending on the severity of the abuse, how old they were when it started, and how many years it lasted. Bastarache said the conciliation process had to be delayed three times to accommodate new victims, which is why he's taken aback by so many lawsuits still before the courts. "I'm just surprised that the numbers are so high," he said. He also wonders why these alleged victims didn't take advantage of the process and are choosing to go to court instead. "I heard about a hundred victims in Bathurst, another hundred in Moncton, and those people — 90 per cent of them, wanted absolute confidentiality," said Bastarache. "A lot of them never told their story to anyone, not even in their family." https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/catholic-church-sexual-abuse-moncton-camille-leger-1.5283414 Lawyer says sexual abuse victims still waiting for money from Catholic Church 'There's a lot of frustration, and a lot of anger, and definitely distress' Alex Cooke · CBC News · Posted: Sep 13, 2019 7:32 PM AT "There's a lot of frustration, and a lot of anger, and definitely distress," said Talach, who leads the sexual abuse department for the London, Ont.-based Beckett Personal Injury Lawyers. "There's distress by these victims who were victimized as children and continue to remain somewhat vulnerable." Talach said he and another lawyer are representing about 50 victims between the two of them. A dozen of Talach's clients have reached settlements with the archdiocese, said Talach. The other dozen still haven't reached an agreement with the church. 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To: police@truro.ca, versailles@versaillescom.com, mcu <mcu@justice.gc.ca> Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com> Guy Versailles, 514 386 9774, versailles@versaillescom.com https://www.truro.ca/police-service.html Chief of Police Truro Police Service 776 Prince Street Truro, Nova Scotia Canada B2N 1G9 Tel: 902-895-5351 (This contact number is staffed 24/7) Fax: 902-893-1629 Email: police@truro.ca https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2022/04/ns-man-stood-guard-with-shotgun-after.html Friday, 1 April 2022 N.S. man stood guard with a shotgun after the mass shooter rang his doorbell https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/mass-casualty-commission-participation-decision-nova-scotia-1.6024867 Commission examining N.S. mass killing announces inquiry participants Participants include families, advocacy groups, police organizations Frances Willick · CBC News · Posted: May 13, 2021 11:48 AM AT https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2018/11/i-read-news-today-about-rcmp-lawsuits.html?fbclid=IwAR2biRcvJ-SiJxWoyvD5spnBmD6TJKcATZsuyQzHCxPzOWY8D97umCR8JkI Tuesday, 20 November 2018 I read the news today about the RCMP lawsuits and just shook my head at the malicious nonsense but when Guy Versailles laughed at me I got truly pissed off >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com >> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:20:20 -0300 >> Subject: Yo Fred Wyshak and Brian Kelly your buddy Whitey's trial is >> finally underway now correct? What the hell do I do with the wiretap >> tapes Sell them on Ebay? >> To: Brian.Kelly@usdoj.gov, us.marshals@usdoj.gov, >> Fred.Wyshak@usdoj.gov, jcarney@carneybassil.com, >> bbachrach@bachrachlaw.net, wolfheartlodge@live.com, shmurphy@globe.com, >> jonathan.albano@bingham.com,  mvalencia@globe.com >> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, oldmaison@yahoo.com, >> PATRICK.MURPHY@dhs.gov, rounappletree@aol.com >> >> http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/06/05/james-whitey-bulger-jury-selection-process-enters-second-day/KjS80ofyMMM5IkByK74bkK/story.html >> >> http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/06/09/nsa-leak-guardian.html >> >> As the CBC etc yap about Yankee wiretaps and whistleblowers I must ask >> them the obvious question AIN'T THEY FORGETTING SOMETHING???? >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vugUalUO8YY >> >> What the hell does the media think my Yankee lawyer served upon the >> USDOJ right after I ran for and seat in the 39th Parliament baseball >> cards? >> >> http://www.archive.org/details/FedsUsTreasuryDeptRcmpEtc >> >> http://archive.org/details/ITriedToExplainItToAllMaritimersInEarly2006 >> >> http://davidamos.blogspot.ca/2006/05/wiretap-tapes-impeach-bush.html >> >> http://www.archive.org/details/PoliceSurveilanceWiretapTape139 >> >> http://archive.org/details/Part1WiretapTape143 >> >> FEDERAL EXPRES February 7, 2006 >> Senator Arlen Specter >> United States Senate >> Committee on the Judiciary >> 224 Dirksen Senate Office Building >> Washington, DC 20510 >> >> Dear Mr. Specter: >> >> I have been asked to forward the enclosed tapes to you from a man >> named, David Amos, a Canadian citizen, in connection with the matters >> raised in the attached letter. >> >> Mr. Amos has represented to me that these are illegal FBI wire tap tapes. >> >> I believe Mr. Amos has been in contact with you about this previously. >> >> Very truly yours, >> Barry A. Bachrach >> Direct telephone: (508) 926-3403 >> Direct facsimile: (508) 929-3003 >> Email: bbachrach@bowditch.com >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "David Amos" david.raymond.amos@gmail.com >> To: "Rob Talach" rtalach@ledroitbeckett.com >> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 10:59 PM >> Subject: Re: Attn Robert Talach and I should talk ASAP about my suing >> the Catholic Church Trust that Bastarache knows why >> >> The date stamp on about page 134 of this old file of mine should mean >> a lot to you >> >> http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/2619437-CROSS-BORDER-txt-.pdf >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com >> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:37:08 -0400 >> Subject: To Hell with the KILLER COP Gilles Moreau Wh>> maritme_malaise@yahoo.ca, Jennifer.Nixon@ps-sp.gc.ca, >> bartman.heidi@psic-ispc.gc.ca, Yves.J.Marineau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, >> david.paradiso@erc-cee.gc.ca, desaulniea@smtp.gc.ca, >> denise.brennan@tbs-sct.gc.ca, anne.murtha@vac-acc.gc.ca, >> webo@xplornet.com, julie.dickson@osfi-bsif.gc.ca, >> rod.giles@osfi-bsif.gc.ca, flaherty.j@parl.gc.ca, toewsv1@parl.gc.ca, >> Nycole.Turmel@parl.gc.ca,Clemet1@parl.gc.ca, maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca, >> oig@sec.gov, whistleblower@finra.org, whistle@fsa.gov.uk, >> david@fairwhistleblower.ca >> Cc: j.kroes@interpol.int, david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, >> bernadine.chapman@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,  justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca, >> Juanita.Peddle@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com, >> Wayne.Lang@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, Robert.Trevors@gnb.ca, >> ian.fahie@rcmp-grc.gc.ca> >> >> http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/nb/news-nouvelles/media-medias-eng.htm >> >> http://nb.rcmpvet.ca/Newsletters/VetsReview/nlnov06.pdf >> >> From: Gilles Moreau Gilles.Moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca >> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:03:22 -0500 >> Subject: Re: Lets ee if the really nasty Newfy Lawyer Danny Boy >> Millions will explain this email to you or your boss Vic Toews EH >> Constable Peddle??? >> To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com >> >> Please cease and desist from using my name in your emails. >> >> Gilles Moreau, Chief Superintendent, CHRP and ACC >> Director General >> HR Transformation >> 73 Leikin Drive, M5-2-502 >> Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0R2 >> >> Tel 613-843-6039 >> Cel 613-818-6947 >> >> Gilles Moreau, surintendant principal, CRHA et ACC >> Directeur général de la Transformation des ressources humaines >> 73 Leikin, pièce M5-2-502 >> Ottawa, ON K1A 0R2 >> >> tél 613-843-6039 >> cel 613-818-6947 >> gilles.moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca >> > > First things first have a Look at the 3 documents hereto attached (Not > a big read) > > Listen to these old voicemails from interesting FEDS at about  the > same point in time (Won't take long) > > http://www.archive.org/details/FedsUsTreasuryDeptRcmpEtc > > then ask youselves or the lawyers Senator Shelby or Spizter or Cutler > or Bernie madoff's old buddy Robert Glauber where the webcast and > transcript went for a very important hearing held in late 2003 by the > United States Senate Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs. > > http://www.banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/hearings?ID=90F8E691-9065-4F8C-A465-72722B47E7F2 > > Review of Current Investigations and Regulatory Actions Regarding the > Mutual Fund Industry > > November 20, 2003 02:00 PM > The Committee will meet in OPEN SESSION to conduct the second in a > series of hearings on the “Review of Current Investigations and > Regulatory Actions Regarding the Mutual Fund Industry.” > >     Archived Webcast > > Witness Panel 1 > > Mr. Stephen M. Cutler >     Director - Division of Enforcement >     Securities and Exchange Commission >     cutler.pdf (175.5 KBs) > > Mr. Robert Glauber >     Chairman and CEO >     National Association of Securities Dealers >     glauber.pdf (171.1 KBs) > > Eliot Spitzer >     Attorney General >     State of New York >     spitzer.pdf (68.2 KBs) > > Permalink: > http://www.banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2003/11/review-of-current-investigations-and-regulatory-actions-regarding-the-mutual-fund-industry > > > Trust that the evil women and men that  PM Trudeau "The Younger" > appointed to to his cabinet will continue to play dumb because of > their oath to The Privy Council. However it does not follow that > everybody who works for them are dumb and they have no such oath to > uphold N'esy Pas?. > > Veritas Vincit > David Raymond Amos > 902 800 0369 > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Lisa Porteous <lporteous@kleinlyons.com> > Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 14:46:22 +0000 > Subject: RCMP > To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> > > David, > > Thank you for your email inquiring about our class action against the > RCMP. As you may know, the Notice of Claim was filed in the Brit> brought by former RCMP constable Janet Merlo on behalf of female RCMP > members. Unfortunately, we cannot assist you with your claim. > > We recommend that you contact Mr. Barry Carter of Mair Jensen Blair > LLP to discuss any claim you may have against the RCMP for harassment. > His contact information is as follows: > > Mr. Barry Carter > Mair Jensen Blair LLP > 1380-885 W. 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Merci ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 8 May 2023 11:22:01 -0300 Subject: Fwd: Mitchell Garabedian, William H Gordon, Eric MacLeish and Wilson Rogers should remember me now To: Anna.Kuchment@globe.com, greg.huang@globe.com, mark.pothier@globe.com Cc: mgarabedian@garabedianlaw.com, rtalach@beckettinjurylawyers.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Saltzman, Jonathan" <jonathan.saltzman@globe.com> Date: Mon, 8 May 2023 07:14:27 -0700 Subject: Out of town Re: Mitchell Garabedian, William H Gordon, Eric MacLeish and Wilson Rogers should remember me now To: david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com I will be out of the office on May 6 through May 14 and have only limited access to email. If you have news to report, please email editors Anna Kuchment at Anna.Kuchment@globe.com, Greg Huang at greg.huang@globe.com or Mark Pothier at mark.pothier@globe.com. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 8 May 2023 11:14:20 -0300 Subject: Mitchell Garabedian, William H Gordon, Eric MacLeish and Wilson Rogers should remember me now To: rmacleish@ghaelaw.com, mgarabedianlaw@garabedianlaw.com, wgordon@garabedianlaw.com, wrogersiii@therogerslawfirm.com, archbishop@archtoronto.org, walter.robinson@globe.com, "dan.ciraco" <dan.ciraco@cbc.ca>, jsaltzman@globe.com, washington field <washington.field@ic.fbi.gov>, oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, wrogersjr@therogerslawfirm.com, Craig Munroe <cmunroe@glgmlaw.com>, andrewjdouglas <andrewjdouglas@gmail.com>, pfeiffer@globe.com, rezendes@globe.com, ArchbishopSean@rcab.org, Robert_Kickham@rcab.org, "Michael.Duheme" <Michael.Duheme@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, paulpalango <paulpalango@protonmail.com> Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>, sdougherty@snapnetwork.org, SNAPvirginia@cox.net, zhiner@snapnetwork.org, mmcdonnell@snapnetwork.org, "rob.moore" <rob.moore@parl.gc.ca>, "blaine.higgs" <blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>, "Mitton, Megan (LEG)" <megan.mitton@gnb.ca> https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2023/05/i-watched-academy-award-winning-film.html Sunday, 7 May 2023 I watched the Academy Award-winning film Spotlight for the first time tonight and wondered who to contact first Wilson D. Rogers, III 89 Essex Heights Drive Weymouth, MA 02188 (781) 794-1600 wrogersiii@therogerslawfirm.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Amos" To: "Rob Talach" Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 10:59 PM Subject: Re: Attn Robert Talach and I should talk ASAP about my suing the Catholic Church Trust that Bastarache knows why The date stamp on about page 134 of this old file of mine should mean a lot to you http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/2619437-CROSS-BORDER-txt-.pdf Just Dave By Location  Visit Detail Visit 23,667 Domain Name (Unknown) IP Address 212.77.30.# (Holy See - Vatican City State) ISP Holy See - Vatican City State Location Continent : Europe Country : Holy See (Vatican City State)  (Facts) Lat/Long : 41.9, 12.45 (Map) Language Italian it Operating System Macintosh WinNT Browser Safari 1.3 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/49.0.2623.112 Safari/537.36 Javascript version 1.5 Monitor Resolution : 1280 x 768 Color Depth : 24 bits Time of Visit May 3 2016 11:26:43 am Last Page View May 3 2016 11:26:43 am Visit Length 0 seconds Page Views 1 Referring URL https://www.google.it/ Visit Entry Page http://davidamos.blo...3/ides-of-march.html Visit Exit Page http://davidamos.blo...3/ides-of-march.html Out Click Time Zone UTC+1:00 Visitor's Time May 3 2016 4:26:43 pm Visit Number 23,667 https://www.archtoronto.org/about-us/departments-%28a-n%29/Cardinal ---------- Original message ---------- From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 16:16:21 -0400 Subject: Attn Cardinal Thomas Collins I am on the phone to you again To: archbishop@archtoronto.org Cc: David Amos LAW OFFICES OF MITCHELL GARABEDIAN 100 State Street, 6th Floor Boston, MA 02109 Phone: (617) 523-6250 mgarabedian@garabedianlaw.com wgordon@garabedianlaw.com                  September 28, 2003 William H Gordon C/O Law Offices Of Mitchell Garabedian 100 State Street, 6th Floor Boston MA 02109 Telephone: 617-523-6250 Re: David R. Amos et al v. William J. Kickham et al Norfolk Superior Court       C.A. NO2002-01070 Mr. Gordon,      I have been very curious for the past year as to why you have not contacted me, particularly in light of the fact that we have a common foe that was being incompetently defended against me by the very same law firms that you met on May 8th, 2002. A big clue for you should have been that I quoted Cardinal Law’s answer to your question as to his residence. I have no doubt my name is cursed a lot behind many closed doors of private organizations of lawyers. The fact that I used the Cardinal’s answer must have caused someone to remark of it to you. However I know that I can not prove it.  I can prove that I called you a while back but I cannot prove the reason why no one at your law firm would speak to me.     What I can prove is that this letter has been sent and received and that I expect a response from you. Please find enclosed a copy of a letter sent to all US Attorneys. Please notice I sent you this letter before the Circus in Norfolk Superior Court. The outcome has no relevance to my next complaints in Federal Courts. Be careful what you do with the wiretap tape. It has been served upon you in confidence as an Officer of the Court in order that it be properly investigated.        For a little while I will not reveal to others that I have sent you this letter. May I suggest that you check my work, then give me a call. I have a little private proposition you may be interested in. Whereas neither of us trust each other perhaps we should agree to sup with long spoons.                David R. Amos                153 Alvin Ave.                Milton, MA. 02186                617 240-6698                             June 4, 2004 Mitchell Garabedian      Gary R. Greenberg 100 State St., 6th Floor      One International Place Boston MA 02109     Boston, MA 02110 Laurence E. Hardoon    Daniel J. Foley, Jr., Brody, Hardoon, Perkins and Kesten, LLP                         MAIA One Exeter Plaza      137 Pennsylvania Ave, Boston, Massachusetts 02116 Framingham, MA 01701                RE: Me versus you dudes in court very soon Sirs,       Please find enclosed exactly the same materials served upon Susan A. Jackson, a lawyer who opted to ignore me and not return my phone call, just like Mr. Garabedian. The copy of wiretap tape numbered 139 is served upon you in confidence as officers of the court. I have already made certain that the man named “Al” will receive the original tape at a time of my choosing unless some law enforcement officer decides to act within the scope of his employment first. As I told Mr. Garcia, Utica’s lawyer in New York yesterday, you fellas are already way past too late to uphold the law. You can play dumb and pretend that you don’t know nothing about any of this but you can’t fool me because I am too stupid. I know it is not necessary to serve any of you one more slip of paper because of your associations and prior contact but I was so pissed off I had to do something to calm me down before I go home to the Maritimes for awhile. I need time to mend. As the song goes, I would not trade one town uphome from ten Beantowns.          Quite frankly the stupidity and the double talk I heard from the ones amongst you that I did manage to talk to amazed me. You know who you are. Rest assured that I look forward to arguing you in court. I have no doubt whatsoever that you could not pull the wool over the eyes and ears of a jury of my peers as I speak of simple truths in any court. I have already tested the water in that regard. I watched the ordinary folks in court giggle at all the lawyers squirming on September 29th of last year as I argued Judge Borenstein. Assistant Attorney General Robby Quinan and their many cohorts. Hell, one lawyer that I did not know who had witnessed the circus found me in the parking lot afterwards and congratulated me. He clearly stated in front of witnesses that it was high time the bastards got what they deserved. In return for his compliment I gave him many documents that I had in my hand and did not ask for his name. Maybe someday he step up to the plate, show some sand and testify to what he knows to be true in his own name but I ain’t betting on it. I stand alone anyway and do not associate with anyone that I do not know to be a true friend that I could trust with my children’s life. The fact that it took a monumental battle to receive even an edited transcript of that hearing on further served to prove my point.        One true statement I heard in the past week came out of the mouth of Mr. Foley. (I wonder if he is related to Colonel Foley if not he should call John Collins) He said I had the right to sue anyone. I think that I have already proven that fact. However finding enough ethical conduct within a corrupt justice system in order to prosecute a Prima Facia complaint is another kettle of rotten fish. Perhaps Mr. Foley should talk to a Director of his Association, Mr. Marchionne and his lawyer, Mr. Garcia about their client, Mr. Whiting before I make matters worse. The fact that Foley received my emails is not negated by the fact that he deleted them. Now he will have to deal with the materials I just served in hand to his office or call me a liar later.        The same holds true for the rest of you. Mr. Hardoon should seek the counsel of his associate Cheryl A. Jacques. She received in hand to her office in the State House the same stuff Tom Finneran did on the same days. (I recall her office quite well by the decorations outside the door.) Mr. Greenberg should have long talks with his buddies Mr. MacLeish and Mr. Marcelino about Cardinal Law, the SEC and me. Mr. Garabedian needs to stress test his own ethics and those of his buddy, Mr. Gordon. Then check the work of Owen Todd and Wilson Rogers to see how easily I kicked them in the nuts with just one affidavit. There was and is no need for me to depose Cardinal Law, the evidence of his crimes and his lawyers’ misconduct still remain in the public record. It was too funny to me when Todd chastised Michael Fredrickson for his own lack of ethics after Judge Borenstein had shown me his ass and ignored all of their wrongs. It became even more hilarious that the Ethics Commission’s lawyers had no idea what to say to me about Owen Todd’s conduct after Judge Borenstein sent me his malicious ruling. If you really want to get to the heart of things, give Alberto Gonzales and Clark Kent Ervin a call and ask them of their pursuit of Truth, Justice and the American Way. I quit trying to explain this shit to you, Soon I will sue. I speak plain. What say you?       Cya’ll in Court:)                           David R. Amos                           153 Alvin Ave.                            Milton MA. 02186                                           Certificate of Service        I, David R. Amos of Milton MA on June 4, 2004 served in hand the enclosed materials to the offices of Mitchell Garabedian at  100 State St., 6th Floor Boston MA 02109, Gary R. Greenberg at One International Place Boston, MA 02110, Laurence E. Hardoon One Exeter Plaza Boston, Massachusetts 02116  Daniel J. Foley, Jr., 137 Pennsylvania Ave, Framingham, MA 01701                             David R. Amos                             153 Alvin Ave.                              Milton MA. 02186 https://www.ghaelaw.com/eric-macleish.html Eric MacLeish Of Counsel rmacleish@ghaelaw.com Phone: (617) 494-1920 Fax: (617) 494-1921 One Cranberry Hill #304 Lexington, Massachusetts 02421 Roderick MacLeish Jr. and              October 31, 2003 Jeffrey A Newman Greenberg Traurig, LLP One International Place 3rd Floor Boston MA 02110 Phone 617-310-6014 Sirs,      I read the words of Mr. MacLeish within the article published two days before arguing your recent legal opponents in the matter you were referring to. I was amazed that neither of you nor Mr. Gordon had contacted me, particularly in light of the fact that I had quoted some words from Cardinal’s deposition in my own complaint. I wondered why you were backing up the New Cardinal whom I had made well aware of the failings of the Todd and Rogers law firms. I understood the game when you addressed Mr. Rogers as Wil in a correspondence dated the same day. You guys put on a good show as you spit and chew at each other but it is just a lucrative legal carnival paid for by the litigants. No matter who wins or loses you still bill for your time then gone on to the next show with the many of the same lawyers acting as friend or foe. Prior to appearing in court on September 29th 2003, I opted to stress test Mr. Gordon with my theory. It seemed that lawyers talk the talk but do not walk the walk.      Now over one month later, it certainly appears to me that my thinking was correct. After the hearing on the 29th, I have commenced sending my third and last wave of letters out to prove my allegations against so many members of the bar. Three of whom are you two and the priest/lawyer Robert Kennedy. I have no doubt he was involved in sending Rogers to court to defend the church against you and Cardinal Law against our action. Todd stepped up to the plate to defend Abigail Shaine against us. He must have choked when I employed the first Amendment well enough in my Oppositions to his Motions to Dismiss his law firm denied their existence and created new motions. To assist him in his perjury, every clerk in every court I filed the oppositions in made them to evaporate. If you had been paying any attention to my litigation, I believe your clients could have made a better settlement in the form of relief. I do not think it was a coincidence that Cardinal Law stepped down from his post and left the State exactly one day after I filed my Affidavits in federal court.       All lawyers attempting to litigate against me had been made well aware that the U.S. Attorney, Michael J. Sullivan, had fraudulently removed Cardinal Law’s name from the complaint at the time of the removal. Norfolk Superior Court destroyed all trace of prior filings in the matter. All of my oppositions had been properly served upon each of them and each of the other litigants who had standing in a timely fashion yet all failed to acknowledge their existence on the 29th.       The fact that all lawyers neglected to obey such an elementary local rule in U.S. District Court and file a Notice of Appearance is simply to funny for words. All lawyers and the U.S. District Court itself supported the irrefutable violation of our civil rights and deliberated assisted in the criminal acts. The court even withheld the dockets from view until such time that the matter could not be appealed. This is simply an unbelievably true story and I have only grazed the surface in this letter.       Now I prove what I have just stated to you and demand that you act as an ethical officer of the court. This is your chance to get back at the other fellas for complaining of your own professional conduct. Rest assured that I will be judging your actions or inaction. Good luck wrestling with your own conscience. As for me, when I have time to sleep I do so like a baby and dream of going to the circus of my own creation.       Please find enclosed an exact copy of a letter sent to every U.S. Attorney in the USA just prior to the minor side show held before Judge Borenstein in Norfolk Superior Court on September 29th. I suspect the recent developments about the SEC and the FBI in Beantown have caused him to delay his judgments of long delayed Motions to Dismiss. He should not need advisement as to whether or not to dismiss a Prima Facia complaint. The irrefutable evidence supporting the allegations was filed with the complaint and served upon all defendants. He knew the scoop the instant he read the complaint. I have no idea how he is going to convince me not to sue him. Whatever his judgment is, it is of no matter to my next filing in federal court. I do not expect a response from you but from this point onwards you can never claim that you did not know the truth. Your concern should be what I will do with the proof of your newfound knowledge. The copy of the tape numbered 139 is served upon you in confidence as officers of the court in order that it maybe properly investigated. Be careful that you do not violate the rights of the people recorded upon it. They have every right to complain of the government after I have made every effort to protect their rights within the government. I was surprised when lawyer that have represented mobsters and other lawyers that have represented their victims did not want to discuss the tapes or even listen to them. It must be that they hold the brotherhood of the bar higher than the interests of their clients or justice. That explains to me why they often refer to each other as my brother when they stand before the court. Do you guys have secret hand shakes as well just like the masons? I stand alone I need no one to back me up at least I know I am what I am. I am a simple, sincere and serious man. Are lawyers certain that they are what they claim to be? Please surprise me and stand with me in my allegations or sue me. Do something because you now cannot claim to be ignorant of the simple facts of the matter. One way or another, I will Cya’ll in Court                               David R. Amos                               153 Alvin Ave.                                Milton, MA. 02186 O'Malley helps church walk the walk By Roderick MacLeish Jr., 9/27/2003 THE RECENTLY announced "settlement" between the Archdiocese of Boston and victims of clergy abuse (240 of whom I represent) will bring no closure or peace for those who lost their innocence at the hands of child molesters masquerading as clerics. There is nothing that could properly compensate most of the victims and countless others who will never come forward. It really is not a settlement at all. Fundamentally, it simply provides victims of abuse with the option of "opting out" of the court system and having their cases decided within certain parameters by an arbitrator. There are those who will not accept its restrictions and some may take their cases to trial. So what does this agreement mean and why should Catholics and non-Catholics alike support the archbishop who made it possible? Over the past 20 months, a group of attorneys and their clients have spent an enormous amount of time uncovering horrific stories of atrocities committed upon children for decades. Equally appalling was the coverup by high church officials and their incomprehensible decision to put these monsters back into settings where they could commit the same crimes again. At our law office, we have more than 400 square feet of space dedicated to more than 50,000 pages of records and deposition transcripts that document these assaults; records of 143 priests, most of them still alive and all but three or four immune from prosecution because of inadequate laws on child protection. For those of us involved in these cases, there is a feeling of numbness. There is very little that could shock us now. Out of this numbness, we have lost perspective. Boston has been the epicenter of this scandal, and what we do here and how we do it is being watched around the world. It is being watched in other Catholic dioceses, and it is being watched by schools, day care centers, hospitals, and youth organizations, which have harbored, sometimes unwittingly and sometimes not, sexual predators. We can safely say that what we have accomplished in Boston has made the world a great deal safer for children. While child molesters will never disappear, their sanctuaries are drying up. If the secret archives of the Catholic Church can be penetrated, there is little chance for any other organization to evade its responsibilities to children. Moreover, after years of collective insomnia, legislatures around the country are finally starting to wake up to the inadequacy of our child protection laws. And now we have a new archbishop. I first met Archbishop Sean P. O'Malley 11 years ago when he was the bishop of Fall River, one of the poorest dioceses in the country. I represented 101 victims of now convicted rapist Fr. James Porter. While Cardinal Law was loudly denouncing everything about the case -- including this newspaper's coverage -- on the grounds that the names of good priests were being besmirched, he was harboring priests suspected of abuse, almost 100 of them, according to the nun who worked in his delegate's office. It was a very different time. Most of us wanted to believe that Fr. Porter was unique. The case could have dragged on for years, particularly since O'Malley had an array of technical legal defenses that well could have prevailed. But that did not appear to be the bishop's concern. He recognized that it was not enough to announce future reform while the victims of failed past policies still lay wounded on the battlefield. So the case was resolved -- not just with money, but with a fair degree of compassion and understanding and with a state of the art policy on child protection that has served the parishioners of Fall River well. Bishop Sean, as he likes to be called, was way ahead of the rest of the church. So Cardinal Law is now in retreat at a convent in Maryland and Bishop Sean is in Boston. In his short time here, he has met with a great number of victims and their families. He has made important reforms in how the archdiocese treats victims, and he has done his best to provide a mechanism of relief for victims whose lives have been in crisis for almost two years. The agreement announced on Sept. 10 also contains critical nonfinancial terms that will ensure greater victim participation in treatment programs; survivor representation on archdiocesan review boards and inter-denominational spiritual counseling for those who need it. O'Malley needs the support of this community. He needs it because, despite all of the horrendous events that have come to light, the paradoxical reality is that the Catholic Church has historically been the safety net in this and other communities for the poor and the ill and disabled, particularly when government defaults on its portion of the social contract. He needs it because Catholics whose spiritual and social lives have revolved around the church need affirmation that the actions and inactions of church leaders -- human beings -- are no reason to question the fundamental tenets of their faith. He needs it because what we do in Boston will be watched by everyone, everywhere. Some of these cases may well be tried. "Healing" is a long way off. We have the lowest church attendance of almost any major diocese in the country. The archdiocese is in financial crisis, not because of victims or their lawyers, but because people exercised their feelings with their checkbooks. Church leaders created this disaster, but we now have a new leader. He is different. There are those within the church who wish to see him fail, but we cannot allow that to happen. O'Malley not only needs the support of this community, he has earned it. 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