While Bill Morneau is in Fundy Royal Perhaps he should say Hey to the nasty lawyers Rob Moore and David Lutz and the sneaky CBC for me N'esy Pas?
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From: "MinFinance / FinanceMin (FIN)" fin.minfinance-financemin.fin@canada.ca
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 13:38:51 +0000
Subject: RE: While Bill Morneau is in Fundy Royal Perhaps he should say Hey to the nasty lawyers Rob Moore and David Lutz and the sneakyCBC for me N'esy Pas
To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
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Please, no questions for the finance minister: Robyn Urback
Just be patient. You will get your canned answers soon enough
By Robyn Urback, CBC NewsPosted: Oct 18, 2017 5:00 AM ET
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Rob Unrau
The arrogance of Justin and
the liberals has no limits. They keep talking middle class but all it is
well is just a smoke screen for them to stay in power.
David Raymond Amos
@Ben Stalls Methinks the puppet masters far more clever and much older than Mr. Butts
David Raymond Amos
@Rob Unrau Oh my my the plot thickens nicely in the evening of a long day for Justin and Billy
Trudeau forced to defend Morneau's decision not to put business shares in a blind trust
Morneau's use of loophole to retain shares in his company draws ire of opposition parties
Steven Rackler
Why is he still the Finance Minister? Fire him and replace him with an honest person, Mr Trudeau
David Raymond Amos
@Steven Rackler Please name one honest politician
Daisy Sey
@David Raymond Amos Herb Gray, but he's dead, unfortunately.
David Raymond Amos
@Daisy Sey If you wish to raise the dead I would vote for RB Bennett every time
Jerry Ben
Two trust fund babies that couldnt be further out of touch with the plight of Canadians
David Raymond Amos
@Jerry Ben Oh so true
David Raymond Amos
@Jerry Ben How is the Ice Cream business in Vermont? Get any tax breaks down there?
Bryan Danielson
Is this actually a comment section for a Liberal gov't piece? There must be some mistake.
Eddie Brock
@mo bennett "up next a FN comment section!"
When the brothers Weaver were constantly being called out for their
steady stream of mistruths, the CBC quickly shut down the comment
section to keep people from being able to freely discuss important
issues relating to FN in Canada.
Unless they can control the narrative and avoid any criticism of anything FN they don't want us to speak about those issues.
David Raymond Amos
@Eddie Brock I wholeheartedly concur sir.
Dimitri Stantos
Pathetic, but not hardly surprising, these are Liberals after all. Come on 2019!
ABL 2018/19
Robert Green
@Mary Clarke I think most
reformacon supporters would be very in-tuned to this since that's what
they said all the time during the Harper years,
David Raymond Amos
@Robert Green True
Mark Edmonson
And the smug will balance itself.
David Raymond Amos
@Mark Edmonson LOL
Simon Kung
The cardboard cutouts are just so lifelike.
David Raymond Amos
@Simon Kung They sure fooled me I thought I was at the circus
Ronald Reichel
Never have seen a smart Liberal and now we find out they speak with forked tongue. That's a shocker!
David Raymond Amos
@Ronald Reichel Methinks they learned a lot tricks from Harper and his cohorts after fooling them around for ten years or so
mo bennett
ya ain't foolin' nobody
billie! crap like this will get you and sunny ways unelected in 2 years,
and the back room boys ain't gonna like that none too much!
David Raymond Amos
@mo bennett Do ya think they wear short pants like Harper"s back room boys did?
The 'boys in short pants' — Government run by PMO's youthful zealots, ex-Tory MP says
First, I wouldn't want to
talk with Justin even if he were standing in front of me. Second, we
shouldn't expect anything less from the Liberal "loophole" Party.
David Raymond Amos
@Steve Wilson I doubt that I
would speak to any politician if they were standing in front of me
However I cannot deny that I do love to argue them in front of live
microphones which are duly recording the encounters.
David Raymond Amos
Rob Moore and the ultra rich
folks in New Brunswick that Bill Morneau now wants to tax cannot deny
that this was a very serious debate
Trudeau forced to defend Morneau's decision not to put business shares in a blind trust
Morneau's use of loophole to retain shares in his company draws ire of opposition parties
Freddy Rose
Maybe Mr. Morneau should
introduce legislation to crack down on people who use family trusts as a
way to avoid paying taxes. And leave small businesses alone.
David Raymond Amos
@Freddy Rose I agree sir
John Henry
@William Roberts
You don't know what you are talking about. ~ 70% of small bus only earn $50,000/yr.
David Raymond Amos
@John Henry Where did you dig up that number?
Content disabled. David Raymond Amos
@Freddy Rose Mr Morneau and his boss Mr Prime Minister Trudeau "The Younger" may wish to check my tally for today N'esy Pas?
"Morneau is planning to
unveil changes to his passive investment proposal so that it only
targets unfair tax advantages used by the wealthy, a senior government
official told The Canadian Press."
It should be interesting to know what his definition of "the wealthy" is.
Will it include our Prime Minister and our Finance minister? Or are they "too" wealthy?
David Raymond Amos
@Doug Murray "Will it include our Prime Minister and our Finance minister? Or are they "too" wealthy?"
Methinks so
Nick Stoikos
@Wendy Love
What flag was Paul Martin flying on his ships?? Hint..it wasnt Canadian. Why?? Hint...taxes??
You were saying something about afree ride? And you voted for him didn't you??
Sucker!!
David Raymond Amos
@Nick Stoikos I complained
about that fact in 2004 particularly when one coal boat named after his
wife was caught with a pile of cocaine on board in Sidney Harbour
immediately after the election of the 38th Parliament and hardly a word
was said about it after the news broke.
The folks of New Brunswick lost 60 million or so overnight with ATCON
with one stroke of the pen held by the outgoing liberal cabinet minister
named Victor Boudreau
Atcon was so badly managed, taxpayers' $63M was never going to save it, AG finds
For anyone wondering why
Morneau would have a "corporation" own his French villa, instead of him
personally, look up the tax deferral advantages of an "estate freeze"
for passing assets on to your children.
Anne Bérubé
@Chris Harris I am sure
Morneau's children are safe regarding the estate, it will remain in his
family's hands forever. He has highly paid tax lawyers to 'fix'
everything. Anyone just born here?
David Raymond Amos
@Anne Bérubé Methinks I have
been giving Morneau and Revenue Canada's lawyers a lot of food for
thought lately byway of the Federal Court
Anne Bérubé
Bill Morneau looks after Bill
Morneau and the likes. Do as I say, and NOT as I do. That is his motto.
Anything that is not nailed down, the liberals will tax it. You all
should have known this before electing lit'tle Justin.
Anne Bérubé
@Shawn McShane Absolutely, carbon tax all the way!
David Raymond Amos
@Anne Bérubé Everyone in the know knows the carbon tax nonsense for what it is
Ellis Purdue
Under Harper Canada had the
wealthiest middle class in the world. But Liberal guilt and self
loathing has Justin focused on sending that middle class wealth abroad.
Jiminy Cricket
@Wendy Love Trudeau will make the "middle class great again"
David Raymond Amos
@Jiminy Cricket Why is it all I am hearing is crickets to my comments?
David Raymond Amos
@Jiminy Cricket Do ya think Morneau read his emails yet?
Warren Yuill
Bill's not backing down on his tax grab.
His company has too much at stake.
David Raymond Amos
@Warren Yuill I concur with your assement
David Raymond Amos
@David Raymond Amos Oops I meant Assessment
Mike Trout
Give it up Billy
Morneau.......................no thinking Canadians believe a word you
say. Just resign and head off to France to enjoy your villa, feel free
to take Justin and Seamus with you also.
ABL 2018/19
David Raymond Amos
@Mike Trout Methinks every
incumbent for all the politcal parties should lose their seat in every
election in Canada then we may truly see a change N'esy Pas?
Pete Shartin
Does morneau's family trust which is used to avoid paying taxes in Canada employ any workers at all ?
Alison Wieler
@Wendy Love What makes you think he is paying French taxes?
David Raymond Amos
@Alison Wieler Exactly
Eric Earls
Our own PM doesn’t trust Morneau to answer reporters questions, so how can Canadians trust him with our money?
David Raymond Amos
@Eric Earls Good question
Freddy Rose
Maybe Mr. Morneau should
introduce legislation to crack down on people who use family trusts as a
way to avoid paying taxes. And leave small businesses alone.
David Raymond Amos
@Freddy Rose I agree sir
Doug Murray
"Morneau is planning to
unveil changes to his passive investment proposal so that it only
targets unfair tax advantages used by the wealthy, a senior government
official told The Canadian Press."
It should be interesting to know what his definition of "the wealthy" is.
Will it include our Prime Minister and our Finance minister? Or are they "too" wealthy?
David Raymond Amos
@Doug Murray "Will it include our Prime Minister and our Finance minister? Or are they "too" wealthy?"
Methinks so
Nick Stoikos
@Wendy Love
What flag was Paul Martin flying on his ships?? Hint..it wasnt Canadian. Why?? Hint...taxes??
You were saying something about afree ride? And you voted for him didn't you??
Sucker!!
David Raymond Amos
@Nick Stoikos I complained
about that fact in 2004 particularly when one coal boat named after his
wife was caught with a pile of cocaine on board in Sidney Harbour
immediately after the election of the 38th Parliament and hardly a word
was said about it after the news broke.
Sorry Billy-Justy, the
business community will remember you for the predatory tax regime
changes you attempted to prey upon them with and then arrogantly said
there was no turning back. This is nothinng but cheap back peddling.
David Raymond Amos
@Philippe Dugas True
Chris Harris
Morneau to announce plan to
prevent small business owners from saving for retirement inside their
corporations so they will have to use individual pension plans,
conveniently provided by none other than, you guessed it....Morneau
Shepell !! The fox is in the henhouse folks!
David Raymond Amos
@Chris Harris Methinks the Crown knows the fox has been in the henhouse long before 1867
David Raymond Amos
@Chris Harris "The communism experiment has been tried, Che. Sounds glorious in principal, not so much in practice"
Methinks history has proven that in spades but the light ain't dawned on the NDP's Marblehead yet
Charles Jones
"...Morneau will also share
updated estimates showing there's between $200 billion and $300 billion
in assets sitting in the passive investment accounts of just two per
cent of all private corporations."
Yes Bill, it's called my life savings. That's exactly how we've been
planning for retirement under rules that have existed for 40+ years.
How many billions of dollars are sitting in public pension plans?
The fact he even mentions the amount of money held in private
corporations shows he has no clue as to why it's there and I'm even more
frightened than I was before
David Raymond Amos
@Charles Jones Has Morneau revealed how much of such "passive investments" are related to his family's interests?
Oliver Welch
"passive investment proposal
so that it only targets unfair tax advantages used by the
wealthy".....too funny....while he and others hide millions behind the
veil of ignorance.
ABL 2018/19
Tim Sarant
@Oliver Welch
"while he and others hide millions behind the veil of ignorance"
I think you meant arrogance - but hypocrisy also works.
David Raymond Amos
@Tim Sarant Methinks its public corruption
Vance Hall
Is Trudeau going to sit Morneau on his knee like a ventriloquist and speak for him??
Tim Sarant
@Vance Hall
You mean like butts does with selfie?
David Raymond Amos
@Tim Sarant Everybody knows that the real puppet masters are older and further up the food chain
Ed Jackson
How can anyone believe this
government has any integrity, they stand for one thing and then flip
flop a day later and argue against their own original stance.
David Raymond Amos
@Ed Jackson Lord Please name just one government in this wonderful old world with any semblance of integrity
Walter j sommer
What a fake picture, shirt sleeves, rolled up, is it to hot in NB? Working hard to screw the tax payer!
David Raymond Amos
@Walter j sommer Astute
observation Perhaps Morneau was helping to milk some cows so that the
wealthy Dairy farmers in the Fundy Royal area would forget Pierre
Poilievre and believe his rhetoric later.
Farmers worry over future under Liberal tax reforms
More than 350 people attended a meeting hosted by Conservative MP Pierre Poilievre Thursday night
When the uber rich like
Morneau use tax loopholes they deem themselves to be intelligently
managing their assets. When an ordinary small business 9 to 5er figures
out a legal way to lower their tax burden, people like Morneau call them
tax cheats.
David Raymond Amos
@Eric Earls Methinks the Godfather knows that Morneau is a classic example of a walking talking oxymoron.
les misner
Do the right thing resign and go sit in your villa in France.
David Raymond Amos
@les misner Methinks I would prefer Morneau stay put and keep us entertained until the next election
Martin Rodger
This MILLIONAIRE GREEDY guy is there ONLY to change the laws to HIS own benefit...
A true "canadian" don't think saw....
David Raymond Amos
@Martin Rodger One really
should wonder why people as well off as dudes like Morneau and Trudeau
would run for public office and suffer the critical abuse etc. Methinks
they are merely narcissistic dummies who lust for the power and
recognition that comes with high public office. However they must ignore
their conscience if they have one and toe the line put forth by their
puppet masters in order to maintain the status quo and attain even more
for all the very greedy "Powers That Be" (Banksters and lawyers mainly)
who lurk behind the scene
Heather Cruickshanks
Too little, too late. The
damage is done. Small Business and the Middle Class in this Country have
lost faith and trust in the Liberal Government.
Greg Williams
@Heather Cruickshanks Unfortunately the alternative isn't any better!
Catherine Haigh
@Greg Williams ... There is more than one alternative.
David Raymond Amos
@Catherine Haigh There are lots of alternatives they are called Independents CBC just doesn't mention us tis all.
FYI I ran twice in the riding where Morneau made his speech today. Go
Figure why I made so many comments in this article in particular
Fundy Royal campaign targets middle class with focus on jobs
Fundy Royal voters have elected Conservatives all but 1 time in 28 elections over 101 years
CBC News Posted: Oct 17, 2015 6:00 AM AT
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From: "MinFinance / FinanceMin (FIN)" fin.minfinance-financemin.fin@canada.ca
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 21:28:51 +0000
Subject: RE: Attn Hubby Lacriox and Minister Joly why does CBC publish the comments of nasty Neo Nazi Trolls such as "Jiminy Cricket" but block me when I question WHY?
To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 21:28:52 +0000
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To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Merci d'avoir écrit à l'honorable Mélanie Joly, ministre du Patrimoine canadien.
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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 21:29:04 +0000
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From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 17:28:43 -0400
Subject: Attn Hubby Lacriox and Minister Joly why does CBC publish the comments of nasty Neo Nazi Trolls such as "Jiminy Cricket" but block me when I question WHY?
To: ht.lacroix@cbc.ca, hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca, hon.melanie.joly@canada.ca, Hon.Dominic.LeBlanc@canada.ca, pm@pm.gc.ca, Bill.Morneau@canada.ca, sylvie.gadoury@radio-canada.ca,
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Trudeau and Co. are doing
exactly what a man did in Germany during 30's. He divided the country
and pointed the Jews as the reason for Germany's misery. Trudeau pointed
the finger towards the small business owner. It is called propaganda.
It worked well in Germany and it is working well in Canada now. Sad!
William Roberts
@Jiminy Cricket The Zionist
had declared war on Germany in march 1933 so Hitler did have a point and
by 1939 had a vibrant economy.
You may want to research your history before spouting off and comparing such issues.
Jason Dean
@William Roberts
Are you saying that invading countries leads to a vibrant economy?
@William Roberts What kind of
history? That Ausschwitz never existed? That no Jews were ever harmed? I
know enough about German history. More than you.
Content disabled. David Raymond Amos
@Jiminy Cricket Interesting
that the CBC allowes such comments by a neo nazi Troll without a real
name yet they block my legitimate arguments
David Raymond Amos
@Jiminy Cricket Methinks that was major Faux Pas.
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From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 11:24:30 -0400
Subject: At least I am an ethical arsehole unlike Andy "Cry Baby Peacher and his hero the FED shill Little Jimmy Fetzer Check the comment section in CBC and my blog today
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Cc: David.Raymond.Amos@gmail.com, John@patersonclan.net, Katy.Bourne@sussex-pcc.gov.uk, Dale.Morgan@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, washington.field@ic.fbi.gov, Boston.Mail@ic.fbi.gov, mark.vespucci@ci.irs.gov, John.Kelly@dhs.gov
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>> From: Andrew Peacher
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 9:06 AM
>> To: John paterson ; David Amos ; David Amos ; gordon bowden ; Sean Maguire
>> ; Field Mcconnell ; loucollinsradioshow@gmail.com ; Julia Spivack ;
>> JAH@JAHTruth.net ; John Hemming ; devinebar@hotmail.com ; David Hawkins ;
>> Barbara Bradbury ; Foxfield Management ; foxfield.management@virgin.net ;
>> Sean Maguire ; Surrey Police Detective Constable 2054 Mr Grimwood ;
>> annskijokerman@gmail.com ; josh.halliday@theguardian.com ; Liam Axworthy ;
>> lee cant ; David Barr ; Mike Robinson ; mike stride
>> Subject: RE: I TOLD YOU DAVID AMOS WAS AN ARSE HOLE
>>
>> Hes mad
>>
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>
>> From: John paterson
>> Sent: 18 October 2017 15:54
>> To: David Amos; David Amos; gordon bowden; Sean Maguire; Field Mcconnell;
>> loucollinsradioshow@gmail.com; Julia Spivack; JAH@JAHTruth.net; John
>> Hemming; devinebar@hotmail.com; David Hawkins; Barbara Bradbury; Julia
>> Spivack; devinebar@hotmail.com; Andrew Peacher; Foxfield Management;
>> foxfield.management@virgin.net; Sean Maguire;
>> loucollinsradioshow@gmail.com; Surrey Police Detective Constable 2054 Mr
>> Grimwood; annskijokerman@gmail.com; josh.halliday@theguardian.com; Liam
>> Axworthy; lee cant; David Barr; Mike Robinson; mike stride
>> Subject: I TOLD YOU DAVID AMOS WAS AN ARSE HOLE
>>
>> THIS FAT BASTARD HAS BEEN LEAVING THREATENJING MESSAGES ON >> MY ANSWERPHONE.
>>
>> NOW I'VE GOT THE FAT USELESS BASTARD. AND I'M NOT THE ONLY
>> ONE. HE EVEN THREATES OLD LADIES.
>>
>> JP
>>
>> What Purpose does david Raymond Amos have sending mindless emails to my
>> Elderly mother ?
>>
>> David Raymond Amos investigated or had his handlers help dug up my mothers
>> email address and sent emails calling her names and then sending what
>> looks like a daily chronicle of his other harassing email campaigns. You
>> can not get upset at David Raymond Amos his rants can be construed as
>> insane but we can hold the RCMP responsible for dereliction of duty. The
>> sheer amount of spam is illegal and the hate crimes is obvious. Close
>> investigations of these trolls reveals they have been let go from insane
>> assylums or in David Raymond Amos case probably forgiven for his drug
>> crimes. My guess is thius insanity is put apon us to misdirect everyone
>> from crooked cops and things like what happened to Byron Prior. We find
>> here David Raymond Amos and Barry Winters harassing Glen Canning and
>> similar to what was done with Byron Prior David Raymond Amos tries to
>> infiltrate the victim side so he can do more abuse and devastation. Due
>> to the prolific emails from david Raymond Amos I have seen this done a
>> hundred times to every blogger.
>>
>>
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From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 09:38:42 -0400
Subject: While Bill Morneau is in Fundy Royal Perhaps he should say Hey to the nasty lawyers Rob Moore and David Lutz and the sneakyCBC for me N'esy Pas
To: Bill.Morneau@canada.ca, Alaina.Lockhart@parl.gc.ca, david@lutz.nb.ca, Karen.Ludwig@parl.gc.ca, Ginette.PetitpasTaylor@parl.gc.ca, Matt.DeCourcey@parl.gc.ca, Dale.Morgan@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
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Fundy Royal, New Brunswick Debate – Federal Elections 2015 - The Local Campaign, Rogers TV
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Federal debate in Fundy Royal, New Brunswick riding featuring
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Green Party Alaina Lockhart - Liberal Jennifer McKenzie - New
Democratic Party David Amos - Independent
Finance Minister Bill Morneau outlines help for small businesses LIVE
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Finance Minister Bill Morneau outlines help for small businesses LIVE
Finance Minister Bill Morneau is set to outline federal help
for small businesses at an event in Hampton, N.B., on Wednesday morning.
The federal finance minister is expected to make the announcement at 10 a.m. AT.
Morneau is planning to unveil changes to his passive investment
proposal so that it only targets unfair tax advantages used by the
wealthy, a senior government official told The Canadian Press.
The official, speaking on condition of anonymity on Tuesday, said
Morneau will also share updated estimates showing there's between $200
billion and $300 billion in assets sitting in the passive investment
accounts of just two per cent of all private corporations.
A government source confirmed the information to CBC News.
Four candidats are running in the federal riding of
Fundy-Royal. Green candidate Stephanie Coburn, NDP candidate Jennifer
McKenzie, Liberal candidate Alaina Lockhart and Conservative candidate
Rob Moore. (Courtesy of Stephanie Coburn, Jennifer McKenzie/Facebook,
Alaina Lockhart/Facebook, CBC)
Candidates running in Fundy Royal are appealing to the middle class
in the typically Tory-dominant riding, with a focus on jobs and the
economy.
The Conservatives have strong roots in the southern New Brunswick
riding — this area has given its support to the Conservatives in every
election for the past century, save for 1993, when Liberal Paul Zed won
office.
In 2011, Conservative incumbent Rob Moore captured nearly 60 per cent of the vote.
Moore said he hopes the party's record, with its focus on the economy
and direct benefits to people, will earn him another term in office.
The Tory incumbent pointed to programs, such as the Universal
Childcare Benefit, as well as family income splitting and pension income
splitting, that has left more money in the pockets of Canadians.
But, he said, he has also delivered on bringing federal cash to his ridinng.
Moore says the biggest question he's heard at the door is how the next government will move the regions's economy forward.
He says the answer lies in TransCanada Corp.'s proposed Energy East pipeline.
"The [Irving Oil] refinery is employing many people in our region,
there's a lot of spinoff benefits, and if we can bring that resource
from Alberta to New Brunswick to be refined and sold from our port, that
is a great economic opportunity," said Moore.
Liberals focus on seniors, middle class
Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau campaigned in
Sussex earlier in the campaign. The Liberals are hoping to knock off the
Tories for only the second time in a century. (Courtesy Alaina
Lockhart/Facebook)
The Liberals are trying hard to knock off the Tories. Liberal Leader
Justin Trudeau has already appeared in Sussex, the largest community in
the riding.
Liberal candidate Alaina Lockhart said she is trying to appeal her campaign to the middle class.
"That's the majority of Fundy Royal," said Lockhart, who has owned Lockhart's Weddings and Special Occasions Inc. since 2004.
"People working everyday to make ends meet and the fact that we have a
national campaign focused on strengthening the middle class to put more
money in their pockets to then stimulate the economy, I'm encouraged by
that," she said.
Lockhart says her party's focus on seniors through initiatives
like affordable housing, strengthening the Canada Pension Plan and
guaranteed income supplement would benefit the region.
"They worked hard their whole lives and we need to make sure they have secure retirements," she said.
Hopeful for change
NDP candidate Jennifer McKenzie says she's sensing an eagerness for change in the large riding.
McKenzie, an electrical engineer living in St. Martins, threw her
name in after becoming "discouraged and disillusioned by the current
government."
'People want our youth back, we want to have reasons to stay here.'
- NDP candidate Jennifer McKenzie
The region has lost a lot of its youth because of the Harper government's lack of focus on the economy, she said.
" be part of the economy and have jobs," she asid.
"The current government's focus on the prairie provinces in the oil
and gas industry left New Brunswick and the Atlantic provinces
neglected, and we actually had a three year recession here."
McKenzie says the NDP's focus on small business would better serve the area's economy.
"Our agricultural industry should be flourishing, we have to make
sure we protect the family farm, there's fishing, forestry, I'm proud of
our tourism initiatives, so much is a good fit to the NDP," she said.
Lost youth
The proposed Energy East pipeline could add
new jobs to the communities inside Fundy Royal, according to
Conservative MP Rob Moore. (Dan Riedlhuber/Reuters)
The proposed Energy East pipeline is popular in many parts of the
southern New Brunswick riding, but the Green candidate said it is the
wrong way to attract investment.
Stephanie Coburn, the Green Party candidate for Fundy Royal, says
the promise of 14,000 direct and indirect full-time jobs across Canada
is "hugely exaggerated."
"The pipeline is a bad idea for people locally and we heard about the
pipeline spills in northern Alberta and Michigan, and that ... oil they
hope to bring in through the pipeline is impossible to
cleanup," Coburn said.
"It's a bad idea nationally because it's all going to be exported …
And it's going to contribute so much to the greenhouse gases we're
trying to avoid to the globe, and exacerbate global warming terribly."
Coburn says she has heard encouragement for her party at the door, a
big turnaround from when she first stepped into the political arena in
2010.
"Now I feel I'm finally not talking into the wind as I have been a long time about environmental issues," said Coburn.
"People are aware of the environmental problems we experience, and
we're going to experience if we don't make some changes. That's a
positive change from when I first ran."
Fundy Royal contains parts of the counties of Albert, Kings, Queens, Saint John and Westmorland and includes St. Martins, Salisbury, Sussex and Petitcodiac, as well as part of Quispamsis.
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CBC writes lots about people who BS a lot then don't bother to put their
name on a ballot. Yet I have done so FIVE times and they have never
said a peep other than bar me from the airwaves and try to have their
pals in the other CROWN Corp known as the RCMP arrest me. Page 14 of
this old pdf file of mine is the reason why.
David Amos
I must Say I am rather
impressed at CBC's sudden fit of Integrity to allow my posts to stand
the test of time for a few hours at least. (: Rest assured that I have
been saving digital snapshots just in case they delete and block me as
usual :)
In return here is an old scoop about CTV that CBC and everybody else and
his dog has been ignoring for 11 very long years after I ran in the
election of the 38th Parliament against the aptly named lawyer Rob
Moore.
Mr. Amos, I confirm that I have received your documentation. There is
no need to send us a hard copy. As you have said yourself, the
documentation is very voluminous and after 3 days, we are still in the
process of printing it. I have asked one of my lawyers to review it
in my absence and report back to me upon my return in the office. We
will then provide you with a reply.
Martine Turcotte
Chief Legal Officer / Chef principal du service juridique
BCE Inc. / Bell Canada
1000 de La Gauchetière ouest, bureau 3700
Montréal (Qc) H3B 4Y7
Executive Assistant / Assistante à la haute direction: Diane Valade
Tel: (514) 870-4638
email: diane.valade@bell.ca
2 years ago
David Amos
Anybody bother to notice I am
the only person posting here with a real name and it is the same name
that is on the ballot in Fundy Royal?
Do ya think the lawyer Rob Moore "The True Conservative" or any of the
others would dare to debate me in writing with their true name within a
website funded by the taxpayer and controlled by questionable public
servants? How about outside the CROWN"s domain within the Yankee website
called Twitter? That is where I play very serious Political Hard Ball.
See for yourself or ask Rob Moore's hero Stevey Boy Harper if I am a
liar or not.
@David Amos I'm sorry they
ignored you,you have great points but you should really pick a
demographic that is smarter.Here people vote for cons without ever using
their brains.Sad really when all they represent are Irving ,the potash
corp and their minions.They are owned by them and they don't even know
it.
2 years ago
David Amos
It appears that the CROWN
Corp known as CBC has failed its MANDATE once again and acted in a very
partisan fashion in ignoring my name on the ballot. Correct? The real
question is will the CROWN even allow this comment to be posted?
Tall tale-telling politicos, take heed: You could soon find your claims
put through the truth grinder by the folks at FactsCan, a newly launched
website that aims to provide an independent, non-partisan fact-checking
service during the upcoming federal election.
■FactsCan website
According to co-founder Dana Wagner, who also works as a researcher at
Ryerson University in Toronto, the team behind the site wants to help
voters "separate out the truth from spin, distortion, omission, error
and lies."
"Our goal is to enable Canadians to critically engage in
political-speak, and to encourage politicians to be honest and accurate
with their words," she told CBC News via email.
Unlike many countries, she noted, Canada does not have a major
fact-checking outlet — and FactsCan is hoping to change that before the
next election.
2 years ago
RURAL GUY
@David Amos was going to hold
my nose and vote con until I seen your name right at the top of the
ballot. I instantly checked yours without even looking any further. I've
never seen such a poor choice for prime minister for our three main
parties, ever. when harper polls as good as he is, kinda tells you
something about the other two, yuk
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2 years ago
David Amos
@RURAL GUY Thank You for the vote of confidence Kind Sir
2 years ago
David Amos
BTW Rob Moore and I know the
truth about Randy Quaid's questionable arrests in Canada and the USA.
More importantly so does Randy I know that for a fact.
"I never worried about being found guilty or any of that for any of
these charges because I know the truth, and I know the facts are going
to come out at some point, and today was a good sign of that," Randy
Quaid said
"Quaid and his wife Evi, a Canadian citizen, have been living in Montreal since February 2013."
"Robert Gervais, an official with the Immigration and Refugee Board,
confirmed in an email to CBC News that a detention review hearing for
Quaid is scheduled for Thursday afternoon.
But the reason for the actor's arrest is unclear.
Quaid, 64, was detained Tuesday morning after attending a regular check-in with CBSA officials in downtown Montreal.
Quaid's lawyer, Mark Gruszczynski, declined to shed light on the affair or to reveal the reason for Quaid's arrest."
2 years ago
tony forward
I may be a little confused
here, Is there not 5 candidates in this Riding.. Humm. Seems you forgot
the Independent candidate, David Amos is running, heard him on the radio
and has a u tube following, Funny how u tube has become become more
accurate than the CBC. Shame on you, CBC. Lets just see if you will
post this comment,,,
2 years ago
David Amos
@tony forward For the record
CBC is well aware that I am the fifth candidate. Hance Colburne of CBC
moderated the debate in Hampton on Oct 7th one before CBC posted on
their website on Oct 14th his interview with Rob Moore on CBC airwaves
SUSSEX - GOLD FOUND AND BERNARD LORD'S OPINION!!!!
4 comments:
----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "McKnight, Gisele" McKnight.Gisele@kingscorecord.com
> > > > To: lcampenella@ledger.com
> > > > Cc:motomaniac_02186@hotmail.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 2:53 PM
> > > > Subject: David Amos
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hello Lisa,
> > > > > David Amos asked me to contact you. I met him last June after he
> > became
> > > an
> > > > > independent (not representing any political party) candidate in our
> > > > federal
> > > > > election that was held June 28.
> > > > >
> > > > > He was a candidate in our constituency of Fundy (now called
> > > Fundy-Royal).
> > > > I
> > > > > wrote a profile story about him, as I did all other candidates. That
> > > story
> > > > > appeared in the Kings County Record June 22. A second story, written
> > by
> > > > one
> > > > > of my reporters, appeared on the same date, which was a report on
> the
> > > > > candidates' debate held June 18.
> > > > >
> > > > > As I recall David Amos came last of four candidates in the election.
> > The
> > > > > winner got 14,997 votes, while Amos got 358.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have attached the two stories that appeared, as well as a photo
> > taken
> > > by
> > > > > reporter Erin Hatfield during the debate. I couldn't find the photo
> > that
> > > > > ran, but this one is very similar.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gisele McKnight
> > > > > editor A1-debate A1-amos,David for MP 24.doc debate
2.JPG
> > > > > Kings County Record
> > > > > Sussex, New Brunswick
> > > > > Canada
> > > > > 506-433-1070
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
Raising a Little Hell- Lively Debate Provokes Crowd
By Erin Hatfield
"If you don't like what you got, why don't you change it? If your world is all screwed up, rearrange it."
The 1979 Trooper song Raise a Little Hell blared on the speakers
at the 8th Hussars Sports Center Friday evening as people filed in to
watch the Fundy candidates debate the issues. It was an accurate, if
unofficial, theme song for the debate.
The crowd of over
200 spectators was dwarfed by the huge arena, but as they chose their
seats, it was clear the battle lines were drawn. Supporters of
Conservative candidate Rob Moore naturally took the blue chairs on the
right of the rink floor while John Herron's Liberalswent left. There
were splashes of orange, supporters of NDP Pat Hanratty, mixed
throughout. Perhaps the loudest applause came from a row towards the
back, where supporters of independent candidate David Amos sat.
The debate was moderated by Leo Melanson of CJCW Radio and was
organized by the Sussex Valley Jaycees. Candidates wereasked a barrage
of questions bypanelists Gisele McKnight of the Kings County Record and
Lisa Spencer of CJCW.
Staying true to party platforms for
the most part, candidates responded to questions about the gun registry,
same sex marriage, the exodus of young people from the Maritimes and
regulated gas prices. Herron and Moore were clear competitors,constantly
challenging each other on their answers and criticizing eachothers’
party leaders. Hanratty flew under the radar, giving short, concise
responses to the questions while Amos provided some food for thought and
a bit of comic relief with quirky answers. "I was raised with a gun,"
Amos said in response to the question of thenational gun registry.
"Nobody's getting mine and I'm not paying 10 cents for it."
Herron, a Progressive Conservative MP turned Liberal, veered from his
party'splatform with regard to gun control. "It was ill advised but well
intentioned," Herron said. "No matter what side of the house I am on,
I'm voting against it." Pat Hanratty agreed there were better places for
the gun registry dollars to be spent.Recreational hunters shouldn't
have been penalized by this gun registry," he said.
The
gun registry issues provoked the tempers of Herron and Moore. At one
point Herron got out of his seat and threw a piece of paper in front of
Moore. "Read that," Herron said to Moore, referring to the voting record
of Conservative Party leader Steven Harper. According to Herron, Harper
voted in favour of the registry on the first and second readings of the
bill in 1995. "He voted against it when it counted, at final count,"
Moore said. "We needa government with courage to register sex offenders
rather than register the property of law abiding citizens."
The crowd was vocal throughout the evening, with white haired men and
women heckling from the Conservative side. "Shut up John," one woman
yelled. "How can you talk about selling out?" a man yelled whenHerron
spoke about his fear that the Conservatives are selling farmers out.
Although the Liberal side was less vocal, Kings East MLA Leroy
Armstrong weighed in at one point. "You’re out of touch," Armstrong
yelled to Moore from the crowd when the debate turned to the cost of
post-secondary education. Later in the evening Amos challenged Armstrong
to a public debate of their own. "Talk is cheap. Any time, anyplace,"
Armstrong responded.
As the crowd made its way out of the
building following the debate, candidates worked the room. They shook
hands with well-wishers and fielded questions from spectators-all part
of the decision-making process for the June 28 vote.
Cutline – David Amos, independent candidate in Fundy, with some of his favourite possessions—motorcycles.
McKnight/KCR
The Unconventional Candidate
David Amos Isn’t Campaigning For Your Vote, But….
By Gisele McKnight
FUNDY—He
has a pack of cigarettes in his shirt pocket, a chain on his wallet, a
beard at least a foot long, 60 motorcycles and a cell phone that rings
to the tune of "Yankee Doodle."
Meet the latest addition to the Fundy ballot—David Amos.
The
independent candidate lives in Milton, Massachusetts with his wife and
two children, but his place of residence does not stop him from running
for office in Canada.
One has only to be at least 18, a Canadian citizen and not be in jail to meet Elections Canada requirements.
When it came time to launch his political crusade, Amos chose his favourite place to do so—Fundy.
Amos, 52, is running for political office because of his dissatisfaction with politicians.
"I’ve
become aware of much corruption involving our two countries," he said.
"The only way to fix corruption is in the political forum."
The
journey that eventually led Amos to politics began in Sussex in 1987. He
woke up one morning disillusioned with life and decided he needed to
change his life.
"I lost my faith in mankind," he said. "People go through that sometimes in midlife."
So
Amos, who’d lived in Sussex since 1973, closed his Four Corners
motorcycle shop, paid his bills and hit the road with Annie, his 1952
Panhead motorcycle.
"Annie and I rode around for awhile (three
years, to be exact) experiencing the milk of human kindness," he said.
"This is how you renew your faith in mankind – you help anyone you can,
you never ask for anything, but you take what they offer."
For those three years, they offered food, a place to sleep, odd jobs and conversation all over North America.
Since
he and Annie stopped wandering, he has married, fathered a son and a
daughter and become a house-husband – Mr. Mom, as he calls himself.
He
also describes himself in far more colourful terms—a motorcyclist
rather than a biker, a "fun-loving, free-thinking, pig-headed
individual," a "pissed-off Maritimer" rather than an activist, a proud
Canadian and a "wild colonial boy."
Ironically, the man who is running for office has never voted in his life.
"But
I have no right to criticize unless I offer my name," he said. "It’s
alright to bitch in the kitchen, but can you walk the walk?"
Amos has no intention of actively campaigning.
"I
didn’t appreciate it when they (politicians) pounded on my door
interrupting my dinner," he said. "If people are interested, they can
call me. I’m not going to drive my opinions down their throats."
And he has no campaign budget, nor does he want one.
"I
won’t take any donations," he said. "Just try to give me some. It’s not
about money. It goes against what I’m fighting about."
What he’s
fighting for is the discussion of issues – tainted blood, the
exploitation of the Maritimes’ gas and oil reserves and NAFTA, to name a
few.
"The political issues in the Maritimes involve the three Fs
– fishing, farming and forestry, but they forget foreign issues," he
said. "I’m death on NAFTA, the back room deals and free trade. I say
chuck it (NAFTA) out the window.
NAFTA is the North American Free
Trade Agreement which allows an easier flow of goods between Canada,
the United States and Mexico.
Amos disagrees with the idea that a vote for him is a wasted vote.
"There
are no wasted votes," he said. "I want people like me, especially young
people, to pay attention and exercise their right. Don’t necessarily
vote for me, but vote."
Although…if you’re going to vote anyway, Amos would be happy to have your X by his name.
"I want people to go into that voting booth, see my name, laugh and say, ‘what the hell.’"
Please, no questions for the finance minister: Robyn Urback
Just be patient. You will get your canned answers soon enough
By Robyn Urback, CBC NewsPosted: Oct 18, 2017 5:00 AM ET
Finance Minister Bill Morneau looks on as Prime Minister
Justin Trudeau speaks during a news conference about tax reforms in
Stouffville, Ont., Monday. (Nathan Denette/Canadian Press)
As you all know, the finance minister has found himself in a
few little pickles lately, so Bill Morneau made himself available and
accountable, as per the Trudeau government's commitment to real change.
Indeed, there he was: available to be stared at in a pizzeria
in Stouffville, Ont., Monday (but please direct your questions to the
prime minister); and for a brief statement during a news conference in
Montreal Tuesday (sorry, couldn't make it back for question period); and
to again be stared at in the House of Commons Wednesday (when it's the
"prime minister's question period," meaning Justin Trudeau is supposed
to field all of the questions).
Politics News
Trudeau tells reporters he will answer them not Morneau
00:0002:06
Trudeau tells reporters he will answer them not Morneau2:06
Yes, clearly there are some issues that need to be addressed by the finance minister in a formal setting. For one, why did he opt against putting his $43 million worth of shares in Morneau Shepell in a blind trust, and why does Morneau Shepell think he did?
After a day or so of waiting for an answer and getting nothing
(Morneau was busy sampling the menu offerings at
that Stouffville pizzeria, and ostensibly he couldn't talk with his
mouth full) CTV News found the answer
itself: Morneau used a loophole in ethics law that would allow him to
indirectly maintain ownership of his shares through the use of a holding
company.
After railing on for months about "loopholes" exploited by small
business owners, would the minister like to address the obvious irony
here? Or perhaps explain why he waited two years to disclose his partnership in a private company that owns his villa in southern France?
And while we're on this openness and accountability kick: why did the Finance Department spend more than $200,000 on
just the cover of its 2017 budget? And speaking of the budget, how come
there was nothing in there about cutting the small business tax rate to
nine per cent — you know, the type of thing that's typically included
in a federal budget, especially after campaigning on a promise to do so — only to surprise everyone with an about-face Sunday evening, and then pretend it was the plan all along?
And how does this government reconcile its goal of
trying to close the gap between the personal income and business tax
rates — which is how it has been trying to sell its tax reform proposals
for the past several months — with its abrupt introduction of this new
lower business rate, which only incentivizes incorporation.
These are all very important questions, and they will probably
be addressed with vague, opaque talking points by Morneau himself,
maybe Thursday afternoon. Just be patient. You will get your canned
answers. In the interim, we should mind our manners and be thankful that
Trudeau gave the press "a chance to talk to the prime minister,"
because Stephen Harper didn't even bother to stand there and say nothing. Trudeau, at least, stands there and talks while he says nothing.
This same exercise in real change played out with a different minister earlier this year, when Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan was
caught embellishing his role in Operation Medusa in 2006. During a
speech in Delhi back in April, Sajjan, who was a major with the Canadian
Forces during battle in Afghanistan, claimed to be the "architect" of
Medusa, though that credit actually goes to now-retired major-general
David Fraser.
Sajjan was called out on his remarks, and after backing out of a few
scheduled events, the defence minister — or possibly a hologram
of Sajjan stuck on loop — appeared in question period to "acknowledge
[his] mistake."
Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan was in the
House to appear conciliatory, but not to actually clarify or explain how
exactly one mistakenly takes credit for a military operation. (Fred
Chartrand/Canadian Press)
"I'm not here to make any excuses for my mistake, or to give
reasons for it," he repeated over and over. Rather, Sajjan was there to
appear conciliatory, but not to actually clarify or explain how exactly
one mistakenly takes credit for a military operation. The idea is to
appear accountable, you see, while not actually addressing the questions
in any meaningful way. Eventually, everyone gets so frustrated and
exhausted with the futile exercise that they just move on — a
rope-a-dope tactic perfected in the House of Commons.
The finance minister would do well to follow this example. He
should start by expressing his willingness to meet with the ethics
commissioner for further clarity on how to best manage his assets,
before gingerly segueing to his affinity for Canada's middle class (and
those working hard to join it).
Why didn't Morneau put his holdings in a blind trust in the first place? Why yes,I'm certainly looking forward to meeting with the ethics commissioner for further guidance. Why didn't he disclose a private corporation that owns his villa in France? As I've said, I have now disclosed the private corporation that owns my villa in France.
Why did the Department of Finance spend more than $200,000 on the cover of its 2017 budget? Mr. Speaker, this government is extremely proud of the plan it has put forward to help improve the lives of all Canadians. At what point did the government decide to abandon its promise to lower the small business tax rate, and then resuscitate it? Yes, this government is forging ahead with its plans for tax fairness.
You see, friends, when this government makes mistakes, it owns
up to them — eventually and sort of, with little explanation. And
usually only after those meddling reporters have dug up too much dirt to
ignore.
In any case, if you still find these answers unsatisfactory,
you can always take it up with the prime minister, who has graciously
made himself available to the press … as one would expect of, uh, a
prime minister. But please, no more questions for the finance minister.
Trudeau forced to defend Morneau's decision not to put business shares in a blind trust
Morneau's use of loophole to retain shares in his company draws ire of opposition parties
By Peter Zimonjic, CBC NewsPosted: Oct 18, 2017 8:35 PM ET
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was grilled in question
period over why Finance Minister Bill Morneau has not put his company
shares in a blind trust. (Sean Kilpatrick/Canadian Press)
In question period on Wednesday, Prime Minister Justin
Trudeau defended his finance minister's decision not to put tens of
millions of dollars' worth of shares in his company into a blind trust
before joining the federal cabinet.
Trudeau took every question, as has become convention in the House of
Commons on Wednesdays, and all but a few were about the conflict of
interest controversy involving Finance Minister Bill Morneau.
"When the finance minister was first elected, he clearly said that he
was going to put his vast fortune into a blind trust. We learned two
years later that in 2015 he had a choice between selling the shares and
putting them in a blind trust, and lo and behold, he did neither,"
deputy Opposition leader Lisa Raitt said in the House.
"Mr. Speaker, I want to know one specific thing. When did the prime
minister learn that the minister of finance did not dispose of his
shares in accordance with the ethics commissioner?" Raitt asked.
Trudeau said he knew that all his ministers discussed their financial
holdings with Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner Mary Dawson
and that Morneau, like other members of the Liberal cabinet, followed
her advice.
Within the first 60 days of a cabinet minister's appointment they
must provide a list of assets, liabilities, income and any other related
financial information to the Office of the Conflict of Interest and
Ethics Commissioner.
Advisers in the office then tell ministers and parliamentary
secretaries what they need to do to be in compliance with the Conflict
of Interest Act.
The law says ministers are not allowed to hold on to any controlled
assets — those that are directly held by a public office holder. They
must either sell the assets or put them in a blind trust for as long as
they remain in office, or until the assets have been depleted.
Blind trusts
Blind trusts, according to the office, are legal instruments managed
by a third party, which have to be at "arm's length" from the elected
official. The trustee, therefore, cannot be a friend, relative spouse or
dependant. The trustee is the only one with the authority to buy or
sell the assets they are managing.
In November 2015, Morneau appeared on CBC News Network's Power & Politics and was asked about his assets.
"What I have personally done is, I've resigned my position as chair
of the firm that I was chair of before," Morneau told host Rosemary
Barton. "I expect that all my assets will go into a blind trust." Morneau's comment can be found at the 7:20 mark in the video below, originally posted in November 2015.
Bill Morneau is Canada's new finance minister8:42
Indirectly held assets
When Morneau was appointed to cabinet, he revealed his assets to the
ethics commissioner, including the shares he owns in Morneau Shepell,
the human resources and pension management company his father founded.
On Tuesday, Dawson said she told Morneau that he didn't need a blind trust.
"I told him that it wasn't required," she told reporters. "I took a
look at what he disclosed, and according to what was disclosed, and
which I do for everybody, I make a judgment as to what's necessary."
Morneau hasn't answered questions about what he did with his company
shares and Dawson refused to comment on the specifics of Morneau's
holdings.
Dawson said that "sometimes the asset is not directly held, and our act covers things that are directly held."
It is an important distinction.
Morneau's share ownership
According to public records, at the time of the last federal election
the finance minister had more than two million common shares in Morneau
Shepell that were controlled by an Alberta-based numbered company.
Trudeau under fire for 'conflict of ethics'3:33
According to the Globe and Mail,
that numbered company is almost totally owned by another Toronto-based
company that is owned by Morneau. His wife, Nancy McCain, is president
of the Toronto firm and is listed as a director of the Alberta firm.
The complex ownership structure of Morneau's shares meant he did not
have to place them in a blind trust because he did not directly control
the shares, even though he controls a company that does.
On Tuesday, Dawson told CTV's Power Play
that back in 2013 she recommended the rules be changed and expanded in
such a way that Morneau's companies would be required to be managed by a
blind trust, but admitted she can only enforce the rules on the books.
"It's my job to fulfil the will of Parliament on what the rules are," Dawson told CTV.
Cullen asks the Ethics Commissioner to examine Morneau1:03
In his mandate letter from Trudeau, it says that as finance
minister Morneau is expected to be "fully compliant" with the Conflict
of Interest Act and "uphold the highest standards of honesty and
impartiality."
The letter goes on to say that Morneau's private affairs should be
able to stand up to the highest level of public scrutiny, noting that
"this is an obligation that is not fully discharged by simply acting
within the law."
While Morneau has done nothing illegal, it is that requirement, to
not only act in accordance with the law, but the spirit of the law, that
has put him in the crosshairs of the opposition.
On Tuesday, Morneau wrote to Dawson saying he wants a meeting with the commissioner to ask her if he should be doing more.
"Should you determine that additional measures — such as a blind
trust — would be an appropriate course of action, I would be pleased and
eager to move forward on any revised recommendations you might
provide," Morneau said in the letter.
Liberals to narrow scope of passive-income measure for private corporations
Finance Minister Bill Morneau to announce more tweaks to small business tax changes Wednesday
By Andy Blatchford, The Canadian PressPosted: Oct 17, 2017 5:08 PM ET
Finance Minister Bill Morneau, right, chats with a worker
at a kitchen counter factory, in Montreal on Tuesday. (Paul
Chiasson/Canadian Press)
The federal government is moving to pare down its
controversial tax proposal on passive income so that it will only affect
three per cent of private corporations.
Finance Minister Bill Morneau will be in New Brunswick on Wednesday
to unveil changes to his passive investment proposal so that it only
targets unfair tax advantages used by the wealthy, a senior government
official told The Canadian Press.
The official, speaking on condition of anonymity ahead of the
announcement, said Morneau will also share updated estimates showing
there's between $200 billion and $300 billion in assets sitting in the
passive investment accounts of just two per cent of all private
corporations.
A government source confirmed the information to CBC News.
The finance minister will also point out that the dollar figure has
been growing by $16 billion per year as wealthy incorporated individuals
reap what the official described as unlimited benefits from
tax-advantaged savings accounts over and above RRSPs and TFSAs, the
official said.
The government wants to prevent all of this cash, which it contends
is not being reinvested into the businesses or the economy, from piling
up in these savings portfolios over generations, the official added.
The tweak to Morneau's original proposal comes after an onslaught of
complaints that warned cracking down on passive investments could
adversely affect middle-class entrepreneurs who use their companies to
save for economic downturns, sick leaves and parental leaves.
Morneau will provide more details Wednesday on the mechanics of the
tweak and a timeline for the introduction of change to passive-income
rules, the official said.
Changes rolling out all week
The announcement is part of a week-long Liberal effort to calm the
anger surrounding the tax proposals, which have outraged entrepreneurs,
doctors, tax professionals, farmers and Liberal backbench MPs.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau began the week by announcing tax cuts
for small businesses and plans to abandon part of one of the proposals
to avoid negative impacts on the intergenerational transfer of family
businesses, like farms.
Trudeau also said the government intended to move ahead with another
controversial proposal from the three-part tax package. That change is
aimed at limiting the ability of business owners to lower their personal
income taxes by sprinkling their income to family members who do not
contribute to their companies.
The government has yet to announce how it will proceed with the
remaining proposal, which is designed to limit the ability of business
owners to convert regular income of a corporation into capital gains,
which are typically taxed at a lower rate.
On passive income, the official said the problem isn't with
individuals, but the system, since it encourages wealthy Canadians to
keep their personal money inside their corporations so they can receive
tax advantages not available to everyone else.
The changes will not be retroactive, as outlined in the original
proposal, and they will not affect existing savings, nor the income from
those savings, the official said.
Morneau expected to reassure investors
Morneau is expected to provide further details Wednesday on the
changes to its passive-investment proposal, including a plan for
addressing the concerns of angel investors and venture capitalists.
He's argued the proposals are designed to create a fairer tax system, especially for those in the so-called middle class.
Morneau has also said he hopes the tax reforms will unlock cash for
business investment and help lift the country's "productive capacity."
In announcing the proposals over the summer, Morneau recommended
limits on the use of private corporations to make passive investments
that are unrelated to the company.
However, tax experts have warned the original proposal would threaten
entrepreneurship in Canada by preventing some business owners from
saving for retirement, maternity leaves and economic slowdowns.
Stephen Maher: The 'boys in short pants' — Government run by PMO's youthful zealots, ex-Tory MP says
Stephen Maher: Brent Rathgeber left the Tory
caucus to sit as an independent last year to escape the 'boys in short
pants' — the nickname for the zealots in the PMO
THE CANADIAN PRESS/Jason Franson
On Wednesday, this was looking like one of the best weeks the
Conservatives have had in a while, thanks mostly to Justin Trudeau.
Stephen Harper looked statesmanlike and sensible in the House
announcing Canadian airstrikes against ISIS. Tom Mulcair outlined a
cogent case against them.
Trudeau, on the other hand, supports the idea of airstrikes but
doesn’t think Canada should do them, and he dodged the debate in the
House. He looked, not for the first time, like an airhead, particularly
when he twice spoke about our CF-18s in an immature way.
This is the frame — fatherly Harper versus Trudeau the bozo — that
the Conservatives hope will help them eventually turn around public
opinion, so the boss must have been upset to tune into CTV News
Wednesday night and see the report on the Tories’ secret plan to make
the world safe for Conservative attack ads.
CTV had got its hands on a document submitted to cabinet by Heritage
Minister Shelly Glover seeking authority to amend the Copyright Act to
allow political parties to use clips from news broadcasts in their
political ads.
This is something that the networks and the Tories have been quietly
tussling over for a few years. Harper demolished the last two Liberal
leaders with attack ads. They are trying to do the same thing to Trudeau
and they don’t want any fancy copyright laws standing in their way.
So when they wanted to use footage of Trudeau taking off his shirt
for charity in their attack ads, they just took it, although the footage
belongs to Huffington Post and CTV.
The networks, who for some reason don’t like people taking their
property, got together to push back, warning that they won’t run ads
that contain copyrighted footage.
The leaked cabinet document proposes to create an exception to the
Copyright Act for political ads, and include the amendment in the
upcoming budget omnibus bill.
“Creators of news will vehemently claim that their work is being
unfairly targeted for the benefit of political parties,” warns the
document.
That is quite astute. We do claim that, because that is what the government is doing.
There is a complicated legal framework around “fair use,” the idea
that parts of copyrighted work can be reproduced, for example, short
excerpts in book reviews.
People who follow this stuff want the government to update our
copyright laws for the digital era. Instead of doing that, which would
involve consultation and homework, the Tories intend to jam a narrow
exception into a budget bill — call it the Trudeau clause — because it
serves their political interests.
This follows several other changes they have made — getting rid of
the per-vote subsidy and making it harder for some people to vote — that
have tilted the electoral system their way.
This is government by the “boys in short pants,” the Parliament Hill
nickname for the youthful zealots in the Prime Minister’s Office.
If Glover were a real minister, she would have rejected this dumb proposal.
But she is not. She has the title, but she doesn’t get to make that
kind of decision. Unlike, say, Jason Kenney or Lisa Raitt, she appears
to be a spokesminister.
A former spokeswoman for the Winnipeg Police, she is Metis, bilingual
and a good communicator.
Those are the qualities that earned her a
place in cabinet, where she is expected to carry out the instructions of
the unelected, fiercely loyal partisans who work for the prime minister
rather than carrying out the traditional functions of a minister.
Brent Rathgeber, the MP for Edmonton-St. Albert, describes the gulf
between the way the system is supposed to work and the way it is working
in his new book, Irresponsible Government, The Decline of Parliamentary Democracy in Canada.
Rathgeber left the Conservative caucus to sit as an independent last year to escape the boys in short pants.
“Observers and former ministers confirm that PMO decisions and plans
are distributed at cabinet meetings for perfunctory approval or rubber
stamping,” he writes.
There is no reason to believe that Glover had anything to do with this copyright policy.
The idea of ministerial responsibility, which is supposed to be at
the heart of our system, is now as abstract as kabuki theatre, a fiction
for empty, ritualized exchanges in the House of Commons.
The socialization and indoctrination effects of the PMO subculture cannot be overstated
“I suppose that it is difficult to hold the minister responsible when
he or she is merely carrying out the wishes or orders of the Prime
Minister’s Office,” Rathgeber writes.
The boys in short pants are running the government, but they are not well-suited to the work.
“The socialization and indoctrination effects of the PMO subculture
cannot be overstated,” Rathgeber writes. “I have witnessed young,
seemingly normal and well-adjusted college graduates enter the PMO and,
within six months, morph into arrogant, self-absorbed zealots, with an
inflated sense of importance and ability.”
Those boys in short pants want the power to expropriate the work of
journalists, and they are running the country, so they will have it.
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