Sunday 1 March 2020

Fixing Pickwauket Road paving mess 'top priority,' says transportation minister

Methinks this malicious use of our resources by CBC is blatantly obvious to many folks N'esy Pas?

One month after CBC byway of its local boss Stevey Baby Webb ignored his mandate and failed to report my running for public of for the 7th time, the sneaky little bastard and his buddy Graham Thompson use our media resources to bitch about roads in our neck of the woods. Whereas CBC support LIEbranos bigtime anyone can see that this bullshit was done  in order to embarrass the Conservatives. Clearing CBC is keeping it up to this very day. Obviously I have read enough of this bullshit for any ten and pounced bigtime on all the snobby bastards in my neighbourhood over potholes of all things.




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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/pickwauket-paving-fix-bill-oliver-1.5480118


Fixing Pickwauket Road paving mess 'top priority,' says transportation minister

Hampton-area road chip-sealed last fall, peppered with potholes since



Steven Webb · CBC News · Posted: Feb 29, 2020 10:00 AM AT |



Photos taken this week show just a few of dozens of potholes that pepper the five-kilometre stretch of Hampton-area road. (Steven Webb/CBC)

New Brunswick's transportation minister says a section of new road that barely lasted weeks will be fixed this coming construction season.

But Bill Oliver said it's still hard to say exactly what that solution will entail.

Last October, the province chip-sealed a five-kilometre section of Route 845, known as the Pickwauket Road, just on the outskirts of Hampton.


It became clear to residents pretty quickly that something was wrong.

The paving crews had barely left the scene when potholes began to form.

Resident Mark Blackier told CBC News at the time he wasn't surprised the road was falling apart so quickly.


Mark Blackier lives on the stretch of Route 845 that was chip-sealed in October. He says the road is more dangerous now than before the work was done. (Graham Thompson/CBC)

"There [were] potholes forming while they were actually doing the project," he said. "We knew there were going to be problems, and now we've got potholes almost six to eight inches deep, up to my ankle."

Cause still a mystery


Oliver said Friday the department is beginning preparations for the construction season, and engineers are trying to evaluate exactly why the road hasn't held up.

"From that, we can determine what process we have to go through, whether we have to put a new top on it, or we have to pulverize it again and start from scratch," he said.


But the reason for its rapid deterioration remains a mystery.



Transportation minister Bill Oliver says fixing the road, which is in his riding, is a 'top priority.' (Radio-Canada)

"Look, there's as many theories as there are engineers, almost," Oliver said.

He said the work is under warranty and the contractor will be involved in the process.
Oliver said the road repairs will be "top priority" for the department, adding he hasn't ruled out using asphalt instead of chip seal.
The Department of Transportation and Infrastructure has filled potholes on the road three times in the past three months.

The first time was in late November of last year, just four weeks after the paving crews completed work there.


"The first attempt they just filled the potholes, like, just enough to fill them up. That lasted a week," Blackier said in an interview earlier this week.


Just a month after being chip-sealed, the Pickwauket Road on the outskirts of Hampton exploded with dozens of potholes. (Graham Thompson/CBC)

"So then they came out two weeks later and really did, like, they overpatched the holes, so that fixed the problems right up to about a month ago."

Oliver said that effort worked well because crews were able to use asphalt and not so-called "cold patch."

'Bad as ever'

But two months of traffic and snow removal has returned the road to its pre-patched state.

Ross Morton, who travels the road regularly, chronicled the recent deterioration of the stretch on his Twitter feed.
  • Feb.14: "Usual problems on the Pickwauket - May be getting slightly worse."
  • Feb 19: "Pickwauket is just sad. Potholes are back & some are big. Take your time."
  • Feb 25: "Looks like road works happening on the Pickwauket for some of the potholes."
  • Feb 28: "Pickwauket - bad as ever."
DTI crews did show up Feb. 25 to fill holes, but Oliver said they had to use cold patch, which he said is "not very effective."


Blackier said it didn't even last one night.

"So all these holes they patched on Tuesday, they're all wide open again," he said.

"I'm not sure what happened, I can't even imagine, but it looks like someone dropped a bunch of missiles from the sky." Blackier said with a laugh.


The five-kilometre stretch of the recently paved road has warnings to drivers, but residents say even careful driving hasn't saved their vehicles from damage. (Steven Webb/CBC)

But the issue isn't funny for Blackier and other area residents.

A Facebook group set up around the road problems contains a litany of complaints about damage to vehicles over the past few months.

They include bent rims and blown tires, damaged struts and shocks, cracked and chipped windshields and paint jobs ruined by rock chips and tar stains.


Blackier said his own vehicle has a cracked windshield from flying debris.

Some people went to the contractor seeking compensation without success, he said.

'Big disappointment'


So, they're considering other options.

"Right now we're in the process of trying to find a lawyer who will represent us all, to see what we can do," he said.

Oliver, who drives the road regularly, as it is in his riding, said residents have every right to be upset.
"It was certainly never our intention to leave a road in the shape that it's in," he said.


"I mean it's five kilometres of road that's been a concern ever since I've been on the Belleisle, and that's been about 30 years now, and so here we are we finally got a chance to do some work on it and it ended up like this," Oliver said.

"So, it's certainly a big disappointment."

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David Amos
Methinks the precious few people who voted for me in Fundy Royal since 2004 no doubt appreciated my offering my two bits worth on this topic N'esy Pas?







David Amos
Methinks Minister Billy Boy Oliver must know Higgy's buddy Kevin Cormier N'esy Pas?

Kevin Cormier
Reply to @David Amos: "Cry me a river" ...face the facts, not everyone knows your name. MLA/MPs/Councilors get many emails from many people, with the "repeat" complainers and conspiracist being auto sorted to junk mail.










David Amos
Methinks folks should where did the all knowing "Johnny Never Been Good" go since he blamed the kids with their four wheelers for the damage done N'esy Pas?
























Ben DeKraker
Route 114, Fundy Park road. Only road through the park was re surfaced last year after residents and potential vacationers complained incessantly about it.
Now the know all government is allowing over weight trucks on the road. All the way from hwy 1 to Alma.
Thia road will be destroyed this spring!!



David Amos 
Reply to @Ben DeKraker: Of that I have no doubt
























Ben DeKraker
How about the 2 bridges at Coles Island. Been down to 1 lane for like 8 years. Many times you can see right through the bridge deck surface to the water below.
Scary.



David Amos  
Reply to @Ben DeKraker: Methinks that is a rather telling issue about how the Red Coats and the Blue Coats don't care about our area but want to spend big bucks twinning Highway 11 N'esy Pas? 
 

Alex Butt
'Big disappointment'. That is pretty much how I describe the pathetic third world roads this province has. The problem is that the government collects ever increasing taxes, collects taxes and taxes on taxes from fuel etc, then designs the roads as cheaply as possible, then awards the contracts to the lowest bidder who in turn does the absolutely least for the most money and the final straw, the province does less than the bare minimum to maintain them. What a complete disgrace.


David Amos   
Reply to @Alex Butt: I agree 
 

Shawn McShane
When the public broadcaster relies on government it is propaganda.


David Amos   
Reply to @Shawn McShane: YUP
 

Shawn McShane
journalism: Who, what, where, when, why, how.
Irving logging trucks and Irving did the chip sealing CBC?



David Amos  
Reply to @Shawn McShane: Go Figure 
 

Charles Waggon
still looks better than most of the roads in Montreal


David Amos  
Reply to @Charles Waggon: and your point is???


























Robert Buck
The Engineers probably use a report that was never written!


David Amos 
Reply to @Robert Buck: That sounds like par for the course to me 
 


Johnny Horton
Consult the local kids, and I use the 2020 definition of kids, aka into their thirties, how much they enjoyed 4x4 inn on new seal the night it was laid.



David Amos 
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Reply to @Johnny Horton: Yea Right A typical right wing wacko would blame the kids Their fat tires on light rigging would really tear up a road rather than big trucks hauling logs for your buddies in the Irving Clan. Do tell are you related to the contractor?
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Johnny Horton: Why is I am not surprised to see my reply go "Poof" again?

Shawn McShane 
Reply to @Johnny Horton: So no logging trucks?

David Amos 
Reply to @Shawn McShane: I pointed it out first but was blocked no doubt because I said where they were going to.


David Amos 
Content disabled
Reply to @Johnny Horton: Methinks this was interesting comment your buddy sent me out of the blue on the 26th N'esy Pas?

Kevin Cormier
Reply to @David Amos: "Cry me a river" ...face the facts, not everyone knows your name. MLA/MPs/Councilors get many emails from many people, with the "repeat" complainers and conspiracist being auto sorted to junk mail.
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Johnny Horton: Methinks folks should have found this comment from another buddy of yours interesting too N'esy Pas?

Justin Time
Reply to @David Amos: And they might want to check the results of this famous lawsuit, file A-48-16 in the federal court.


David Amos
Reply to @Johnny Horton: Methinks paragraph 22 is particularly important for your buddy Minister Billy Boy Oliver to review because he has had many of my documents and the same CD since the summer of 2004 when he was the former Speaker Bev Harrison's assistant and the Governor General did acknowledge that fact N'esy Pas?

[22] Mr. Amos also included with his submissions a CD. He stated in his affidavit dated June 26, 2017 that there is a “true copy of an American police surveillance wiretap entitled 139” on this CD. He has also indicated that he has “provided a true copy of the CD entitled 139 to many American and Canadian law enforcement authorities and not one of the police forces or officers of the court are willing to investigate it”. Since he has indicated that this is an “American police surveillance wiretap”, this is a matter for the American law enforcement authorities and cannot create, as Mr. Amos suggests, a conflict of interest for any judge to whom he provides a copy.

























David Amos
Methinks somebody to warn the Minister that spring is coming Hence more flooding and potholes will follow so he should prepare for some serious headaches N'esy Pas? 

























David Amos
Methinks with a possible election over the horizon it should be blatantly obvious why Billy Boy would fix the roads in his neighourhood first N'esy Pas?


Robert Buck
Reply to @David Amos: I take exception to implying there would be favouritism!!(sarcasm noted)

David Amos
Reply to @Robert Buck: Somebody has to because Billy Boy is too dumb to take exception (no sarcasm at all)
























Johnny Horton
Late October is pushing the limits of chip seal season. Any slight variance in colder or wetter wewther will wrack havok.


David Amos
Reply to @Johnny Horton: Methinks whereas you claim to never leave your camp why should you care? However I hang my hat in the area and definitely don't need a lawyer like the others say they do N'esy Pas?

David Amos 
Reply to @Johnny Horton: Has the cat got your tongue??? 
 

Michael durant
Time to impose secrecy the New Brunswick way again.


David Amos  
Reply to @Michael durant: Sounds about par for the course 
 

Bob Smith
Interesting that the contractor responsible for the work is not identified by name or asked about the problem for this article.


David Amos 
Reply to @Bob Smith: YUP 
 

Matt Steele
It sounds like it is time for the govt. to hire Engineers who ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING ; it appears that the contractor tried to save a few bucks , and the Govt. Engineers didn't know the difference . It is time for govt. to HIRE the most qualified people , and stop hiring based on NEPOTISM !


David Amos 
Reply to @Matt Steele: Methinks paving roads ain't rocket science. I bet there is a hundred non engineers within 25 miles of that road who can tell us how they screwed up and they would tell us for free. There certainly is no need to hire lawyers to make a buck off of getting to the bottom of a pothole predicament that has Billy Boy oh so stymied N'esy Pas? 
 






















Paul Estey
if the roadwork is under warranty, then its a no brainer that the road be fixed and fixed properly as it should have been done the first time.


David Amos 
Reply to @Paul Estey: Of course

Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Paul Estey:
Warranty? Who are you trying to kid? As that road went down there was at least one government inspector on site who signed off that the job met, or exceeded, government spec. If the road did not last it is no fault of the installer. (it very well may be, but with the inspector signing off, the road, as installed, was up to specification) 
 























Terry Tibbs
There are several factors at play here.
Tar is expensive, short the tar, save money.
There are different grades of tar.
Road repairs on wet, or damp, roads are at best temporary.
The answer is close and thorough inspection, and testing, while the job is no progress.



Paul Estey 
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: saving on the components isnt saving money as you have to repeat the process every couple years. I was told from a person who works in the DOT asphalt testing that the standards for asphalt have been lowered thereby letting contractors meet the minimum and make the maximum profit...get back to the old ways and stand by the old saying, o it right the first time and you wont be doing it over for a long time.

Terry Tibbs 
Reply to @Terry Tibbs:
Another factor:
Short the tar, use slightly oversize stones (both cost cutting measures), and your tires wear out quicker.


Terry Tibbs   
Reply to @Paul Estey:
If you are looking for a long term solution you must also inspect the roadbed. If the roadbed is not solid and stable all the asphalt in the world won't stay where it's put.


David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks you should ask Billy Boy if he is willing to hire you as a consultant However with an election coming soon it may only be a temporary position N'esy Pas?

Terry Tibbs   
Reply to @David Amos:
Maybe a "position" at NB Power, or Health NB, what do you say?
I could get lost quite easily among the desk operating do nothings.


Terry Tibbs   
Reply to @David Amos:
Though, really, since I retired I'm too busy to play stupid games.


David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks it would be fun to be well paid riding around in a new truck with free gas counting potholes. I friend of mine used to do it for NB and retired well. However he was always nervous about keeping his job every four years or so for obvious reasons N'esy Pas?

Paul Estey 
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: this is why I 95 in Maine has held up so well....the road sub structure was properly installed and prepared...yes...it would have cost a little more when being constructured but has had far less maintenance. 
 























Troy Murray
The roads are poor throughout the province. There is no reason whatsoever that main highways have potholes or deep grooves in the lanes caused by heavy trucks.Somebody is not doing their job. Blaming the weather year after year is getting old.


Paul Estey 
Reply to @Troy Murray: where are the inspectors when the road repairs are being undertaken.

Troy Murray
Reply to @Paul Estey: In Quebec?

David Amos
Reply to @Troy Murray: Methinks you jest just enough N'esy Pas?

Terry Tibbs 
Reply to @Troy Murray:
The grooves from trucks (wheel grooves) are caused by a poor grade of tar (it's cheaper and easier to work with due to it''s lower melt temperature). On a hot summer day the weight of the trucks simply pushes it aside.
Potholes have many causes.


Troy Murray 
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: The highway shouldn't be like a country road, dodging potholes or getting caught in the rut. They have to improve on what they are doing, or start charging a highway toll and hire a better company and get it done properly

Terry Tibbs 
Reply to @Troy Murray:
All the work is tendered. Lowest tender gets the work. Specs and inspection are there to keep the contractors honest.
Can they cheat? Sure they can and do.
But before they get paid the inspector(s) must sign off. 
 






















Roy Kirk
As in appliancies, there's more money's to be made by doing a poor job of roadwork, so you're called back to do it over again. The road building and paving companies are very good to your MLAs. And doing a poor job is cheaper in the short run, the only run govts consider.


David Amos 
Reply to @Roy Kirk: Good point Too bad so sad you hate me EH? 






















 

Roland Stewart
Sometimes you get what you pay for and other you don't even get that , almost never get more than you pay for.


David Amos 
Reply to @Roland Stewart: Methinks because we get the governments we deserve they make certain that we never get what we pay for N'esy Pas?







https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/paving-pickwauket-road-potholes-hampton-1.5374084


Hampton-area drivers dodge dozens of potholes a month after road paved

Province patching holes, but one resident says Pickwauket Road needs to be redone


Steven Webb · CBC News · Posted: Nov 27, 2019 5:30 AM AT




Just a month after being chip sealed, the Pickwauket Road on the outskirts of Hampton has exploded with dozens of potholes. (Graham Thompson/CBC)

For residents of Pickwauket Road, seeing a paving crew show up in their Hampton area neighbourhood this fall was pretty exciting.

Mark Blackier, who has lived there for almost two decades, said the road hasn't been paved in 18 years and wasn't in great shape. Pickwauket Road, also known as Route 845, runs from Hampton to the Kingston Peninsula and it's quite heavily travelled.

"I'm thinking, this is great, we're going to have, finally,  something that I don't have to worry about my vehicles," Blackier said.



But those positive thoughts quickly turned to concern as the chip-sealing work progressed.

Now Blackier has more worries about the road he drives on every day.


Mark Blackier lives on a stretch of Route 845 that was chip sealed in October. He says the road is more dangerous now than before the work was done. (Graham Thompson/CBC)

"You could see the machine wasn't working properly, it was operating and it was leaving heaves as it was doing it," he said.

"I know they're meant to leave a little bit of gravel on top to pound down, but they were leaving about eight inches, so it was a skating rink, driving on marbles for almost a month."

Blackier said it soon became apparent the extra gravel was the least of the problems.

"There was potholes forming while they were actually doing the project," he said, "We knew there were going to be problems, and now we've got potholes almost six to eight inches deep, up to my ankle.

"The potholes were forming as they were doing it, and they were just putting more gravel onto it and calling it a day."


The newly paved section of the Pickwauket Road is now marked with 'broken pavement' signs as a warning for the potholes ahead. (Graham Thompson/CBC)

The work was completed on Oct. 24, according to a Department of Transportation and Infrastructure spokesperson. A month later, there are dozens of potholes of all shapes and sizes on the four or five-kilometre stretch of newly chip-sealed road.

The road also doesn't appear to have much gravel on it anymore.


For 18 years this road near Hampton was never paved. Then the province chip sealed it this fall, and a few weeks later, it was exploding with potholes. 1:00

The stretch is now marked with a "broken pavement" sign.

Blackier said the road has become a bigger safety hazard than it was before the paving.

"My best friend up the street, with the potholes he's already dented one rim," he said, "I'm scared to death within the next kilometre to Hampton, I'm scared to death. I have to drive on the other side of the road just to get to my home."



In some cases, the only way around the potholes is to swerve into the other lane. (Graham Thompson/CBC)

A request to the Transportation Department for an interview was not granted. But DTI spokesperson Jeremy Trevors said in an email that the work was done by a private company.



Trevors said the contract is under warranty and "it's important to note, a planned second seal will be applied to Route 845 during the 2020 construction season."

Trevors also said the potholes would be repaired this week, weather permitting.

 
Add a little rain and early evening light, and the holes are even tougher to see. (Graham Thompson/CBC)

For Blackier, that's not good enough.

"It has to be redone, the whole four-kilometre stretch." he said

"It's been poorly done. The tar, I don't know the procedure, but I've been told it leached down through into the road, and it didn't hold the gravel."


  

 
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Web Site : http://atlantic.ctvnews.ca
English
CTV Atlantic Saint John Bureau12 Smythe Street
Saint John, New Brunswick, E2L 5G5
Mike Cameron
Mary Cranston
Email : atlanticnews@ctv.ca
mike.cameron3@bellmedia.ca
mary.cranston@bellmedia.ca
Phone : (506) 636-6068
Fax : (506) 658-1208
Web Site : http://atlantic.ctvnews.ca
English
Global Television - Moncton Bureau 150 Edmonton Ave. Unit 4
Moncton, New Brunswick, E1C 3B9
Shelley Steeves
Callum Smith
Email : newbrunswick@globalnews.ca
shelley.steeves@globalnews.ca
callum.smith@globalnews.ca
Phone : (506) 862-5101
Shelley Steeves - (506) 866-4794
Callum Smith - (506) 850-8751

Fax : (506) 457-0213
Web Site : http://www.globalnews.ca/new-brunswick
English
Global Television - Fredericton Bureau361 Victoria Street
Fredericton, New Brunswick, E3B 1W5
Megan Yamoah
Email : megan.yamoah@globalnews.ca
Phone : (506) 478-2133
Fax : (506) 457-0213
Web Site : http://www.globalnews.ca/new-brunswick
English
Global Television - Saint John1 Germain Street
Suite A500B
Saint John, New Brunswick, E2L 4V1
Andrew Cromwell
Silas Brown
Travis Fortnum
Email : andrew.cromwell@globalnews.ca
silas.brown@globalnews.ca
travis.fortnum@globalnews.ca
Phone : (506) 642-6488
Contact # Travis Fortnum - 506-874-2459
Fax : (506) 652-5965
Web Site : http://www.globalnews.ca/new-brunswick


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