Thursday 28 July 2022

Mountie has 'impression' Liberal government interfered with N.S. mass shooting probe

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MCC Day 57 – Participants’ Counsel Question Chief Superintendent Leather

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The final day of Mass Casualty Commission proceedings before a three week break featured some revelations, expressions of regret, and careful answers from Chief Superintendent Chris Leather, who was the second ranking RCMP officer in Nova Scotia at the time of the events of the April 18-19, 2020 mass shooting. 
 
These all emerged from cross examination by lawyers for the family participants, though I noticed that in her introduction to the day, Commissioner Fitch did not say the words “cross examination” but rather stated that MCC lawyer Rachel Young would facilitate questions from participants’ counsel. Nothing really turned on that characterization, but it is another subtle example of participants’ lawyers being marginalized by the MCC. All Ms. Young was called upon to do was state the order in which the other lawyers would be speaking, and rough time estimates for them to do so. 
 
Michael Scott from Patterson Law was the first lawyer to question C/Sup. Leather. He started by picking up on a comment that C/Sup. Leather made yesterday that he did not want to answer a question without speaking to legal counsel. It seemed yesterday that Ms. Young should have followed up on that statement, but she did not. Today, C/Sup. Leather was prepared to speak further, and it was a significant exchange. 
 
Perhaps most striking from C/Sup. Leather’s testimony was his refusal to agree that, if the same circumstances happened today, an emergency alert would be issued. Leather vacillated on his answer, and would only go so far as to say that it would be something for the Critical Incident Commander to consider. I suspect C/Sup. Leather was conscious of the civil case against the RCMP when he gave this answer. If he were to explicitly say that an alert would definitely be issued, that would be used against the RCMP in the class action by the families to show that the RCMP’s response to the mass casualty events fell below the expected standard.

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Oh My What a tangled web they have woven

 

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/leather-lucki-political-interference-1.6535217 

 

Mountie has 'impression' Liberal government interfered with N.S. mass shooting probe

Commissioner Lucki testified this week they didn't meddle in active investigation back in 2020

Chief Supt. Chris Leather made the comment at the public inquiry into the rampage that took 22 lives on April 18-19, 2020, during cross-examination by Tom MacDonald, a lawyer who represents two family members of victims.

MacDonald asked if Leather believed, after the officer participated in a teleconference with Lucki following the shootings, that the commissioner's comments reflected political interference in the criminal probe underway at the time.

"That's my impression," Leather responded. He said he came to that conclusion after gathering the facts about the "lead-up" to the meeting with Lucki.

RCMP Chief Supt. Darren Campbell has alleged that during a meeting on April 28, 2020, Lucki said she promised the Prime Minister's Office that the information on the guns would be released in connection with the Liberal government's "pending gun control legislation."

The Liberal government was in the midst of drafting fresh gun control measures to reduce access to semi-automatic weapons in the weeks following the mass shooting. Campbell and Leather both testified this week that releasing the information on the guns would have interfered with the ongoing investigation into who provided the killer with the semi-automatic weapons.

 RCMP Commissioner Brenda Lucki looks on during Canada Day celebrations at Lebreton Flats in Ottawa on Friday, July 1, 2022. (Justin Tang/The Canadian Press)

Leather, who is the head of criminal operations in Nova Scotia, testified on Wednesday that he had received a call from Lucki on the evening of April 22 — three days after the mass shooting — and that she had asked him to send her details about the guns. The superintendent has said that a list of guns he had sent to Lucki was for internal purposes only.

Leather's statement about the April 22 call with Lucki, and about a series of emails that followed, hadn't come up in a July 6 interview with inquiry lawyers.

Mountie says he was told not to 'proactively disclose' call

During cross-examination Thursday by Michael Scott — a lawyer who represents the majority of the victims' families — Leather said he hadn't discussed the call with Lucki or the emails on July 6 because lawyers with the federal Department of Justice had suggested he take "a reactive posture."

"The advice I received was not to proactively disclose the conversation [with Lucki] and the emails leading up to the meeting on April 28, [2020]," Leather testified.

"I knew from my notes and emails I had prepared and submitted that it was obviously relevant to what would become the infamous phone call of April 28 and was troubled by that and wanted their advice and was advised to take a reactive posture."

Lori Ward, a lawyer for the federal Justice Department and the RCMP, told commissioners Thursday she believed there had been a "misunderstanding" from Leather about that advice. She said she and another federal lawyer had understood that Leather had a document relevant to the April 28, 2020, meeting with Lucki that they needed to review because it might contain privileged information.

"At no time did we advise [Chief Supt.] Leather not to speak about it and not to speak the truth," she said.

Ward said the document in question, which she didn't describe in detail, will be disclosed to the inquiry soon.

Lucki has denied interfering in the police investigation. She testified Monday before a House of Commons committee that she didn't recall telling then-public safety minister Bill Blair that she had "promised" to have the details on the guns released. She said she remembered using different words with Blair.

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MCC - DAY 59 - CHRIS LEATHER (DAY 2)

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Seamus and his Fed friends read my last comments within his live chat correct?

 

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FAST AND FURIOUS... OH THEM NOTEBOOKS... DISCLOSURE

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CTV News and Paul Palango

The following message has been sent to CTV News

I note you had Paul Palango on CTV News Atlantic on June 9th.
This is the same man who said the shooter from Portapique was an RCMP informant with a “license to kill” . This is the same man who said that the shooter collected $475,000 from Brinks as a payment from the RCMP when in fact he simply cashed out his RRSPs and that is the standard procedure that Banks utilize to handle this type of large cash transaction. This is the same man who claimed a Staff Sergeant in Tantallon refused to authorize overtime because it would affect his non existent performance pay. Palango knows that none of this is true.  There are many other examples of Palango’s ethical standards but at the root of the problem are his “sources”. They are typically anonymous, if they exist at all, and his stories generally morph into what has accurately been described as fairy tales.
And now Palango and Frank Magazine have stooped to an unbelievable new low by publishing a leaked 911 tape from a 12 year old boy and two other victims. Whomever leaked these recordings will hopefully be held to account but, in a race to the bottom of incivility and with no regard whatsoever for the victims and their families, Palango and Frank Magazine have managed to lower the bar to yet another level. He also had the unmitigated gall to criticize the families of the victims for being outraged. Its despicable!!
If that wasn’t enough Palango and Frank Magazine now report that the RCMP members ” executed” the shooter and CTV News ran with that story. Anyone with an ounce of policing experience would dispute everything he says about these latest video clips. Even your own policing expert, Chris Lewis pounded holes in his accusation and yet CTV News continues to give Palango a platform. Why??
Palango has been on his life long rant about the RCMP and the tragedy of Portapique and not allowing the Commission to do their work without distraction. This tragedy was the most unprecedented and horrible event in Canadian history and there is no chance the response would have been done perfectly in any jurisdiction. Some tough lessons will be learned but it is imperative that the Commission, and only the Commission be the credible source for all answers in regards to Portapique. Not Palango, Not Frank Magazine, Not CTV News or anyone else.

Regards,
Stephen Mills, S/Sgt.
(Ret)Office of Public Engagement
RCMP Veterans’ Association

 

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  1. Paul Hulme says:

    As one of many victims of the hundreds , possibly thousands , of uncleared Major crimes in Canada – and after a lifetime of following RCMP conduct on these issues. I would believe Mr. Palango long before trusting any statement from the RCMP on this matter.

    I hope we will soon see the day when we have our own community and Provincial policing in Nova Scotia.

    I view Mr. Palango and his efforts as a “Champion for change ” for those of us who have lost loved ones and generally suffered “acts of incompetence” by our National Police

    I have read Mr. Palango’s “dispersing the fog ” and old enough to have lived through all times he described – He was dead right about the mounties there , and he probably has most of right in this case – hopefully we will find out

  2. Sandy Mechefske says:

    THIS all solely is the making of the RCMP. If the RCMP had been honest and transparent about everything, from the beginning, there wouldn’t be a need for widespread speculation and alternative theories. Your timeline doesn’t make sense- there have been umpteen lies- verifiable lies. Instead of shooting the messenger, maybe look inside your own house. At best it was incompetence- at worst it was a deliberate attempt to hide the truth. The lady doth protest too much, methinks. THANK GOD for Paul Palango! These families and Canadians need the truth- nothing less!

  3. Stephen says:

    This man speaks the truth. The RCMP is rotten to the core.

    C’mon, even in a Banana Republic, they wouldn’t allow spouses of investigators to be in such conflict of interest.

    Laughable

  4. Evelyn says:

    The facts are that Paul is simply shining a spot light on discrepancies, including who’s sitting on the Commission and the conflict of interest. Instead of trying to dismiss Paul, why not insist the RCMP simply provide an accurate time line and be truthful or is it that line from ” A Few Good Men”. ..”You can’t handle the truth.”?

    How about starting with Lisa Banfield and asking her for some truths.

  5. Sean R. says:

    There are many facts to the contrary of your article that come out. Your narrative is inaccurate and has been disproven. Time to be transparent. If this is the simple domestic violence case you’re trying to sell it as, why the redactions and secrecy? Families are suffering but we can’t grow or move on until we find out why this really happened and why it was such an utter policing failure.

  6. Charlene Bagley says:

    The truth hurts sometimes. Just like it hurt when I found out my father was shot and killed 11.5 hours after GW was first identified. These weren’t just little mistakes you made. My father would still be here today if it wasn’t for your mistakes. The only so called fairytale I can see is the story your are trying to convince the public that happened.

  7. Buford Wilson says:

    Paul revealed some inconvenient truths.
    The RCMP displayed pure incompetence in Portapique. And twenty-two lives were lost.

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Orangeville resident helps investigative journalist uncover alleged coverup by RCMP in 2020 Nova Scotia mass shooting

When a gunman in Nova Scotia went on a two-day killing spree in April of 2020, murdering 22 people in cold blood, there were many unknowns left in the wake. What was also unknown is how an Orangeville resident months later would help an investigative journalist uncover an alleged coverup by the RCMP.

Paul Palango had been retired from journalism for 30-years when the events of April 18 and April 19 unfolded in Portapique, N.S. Having worked for the Globe and Mail for 13 years and in the years since his retirement written three books on the RCMP, Palango said he knew there was something wrong with the initial reports.

Originally looking to help other journalists look deeper into what was being reported to the public, Palango eventually began covering the Portapique killings himself. His articles would be published in several publications including Maclean’s magazine, the Halifax Examiner, and Frank magazine.

“I felt that no one else was going to do it,” said Palango. “I know how it works so I have to do it.”

In his most recent novel, “22 Murders: Investigating the Massacre, Cover-up, and Obstacles to Justice in Nova Scotia”, Palango breaks down the intricate details leading up to and after the massacre, and his reporting following the event.

He also tells how a Facebook message from an Orangeville resident became a turning point in his investigation.

After months of writing articles on the Portapique massacre and the RCMP, Palango received a message on Facebook on Dec. 30, 2020. The message was from an Orangeville resident who had heard him speaking on Nighttime, a podcast created by Jordan Bonaparte. In the message the Orangeville resident asked Palango if anyone had contacted him regarding what had been heard through police scanner the night of the massacre.

In back and forward messages, the Orangeville resident described what they heard broadcasted over the Pictou County Public Safety channel on April 18, and noted how the timeline from the RCMP didn’t match what they’d heard over the police scanner.

Palango began work on corroborating the tip, and eventually found the archived audiotapes through a U.S based website.

“I tracked it down and there were the tapes of what was going on. Exactly, a perfect replica of what [they] remembered nine months before.”

Palango told the Citizen the find was a significant turning point.

“What it did was allow me to write stories now challenging the RCMP narrative, and once I started doing that with conclusive proof, then the whole story opened up,” said Palango “All kinds of people started cooperating because now I was onto a real story and it’s wasn’t just speculation anymore.”

While there are more than 1,700 kilometres between Orangeville and Portapique, N.S., the distance between the two communities shortened across the airwaves the night of April 18.

“There was a lot of activity on the channel at the time and that’s what caught my attention. Once I realized it was something really horrific happening, I was freaked out. I listened for about two hours and I was surprised how much information I was hearing,” the Orangeville resident told the Citizen.

Sitting on the what they’d heard months before, the Orangeville resident said they were compelled to share the information with Paul because of the lack of updates and information being shared with the public and the victims’ families.

“I felt compelled at the time that Paul should have this information. I was just filtering a piece of information over to him that would shed light on his investigation, I didn’t think it would have an impact it has,” said the resident. “There was still so much information that the victims’ families were not aware of, it was justice for them.”

Palango’s book “22 Murders: Investigating the Massacre, Cover-up, and Obstacles to Justice in Nova Scotia”, was published on April 12.


 

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