MCC Day 65 - Hiding the Testimony of Cst. Wiley, the RCMP Officer Who Was Friendly With Killer
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RCMP officer who visited gunman years before N.S. mass shooting testifying today
Const. Greg Wiley is appearing at the public inquiry Tuesday
Const. Greg Wiley is set to give evidence on Tuesday at the Mass Casualty Commission leading the inquiry into the April 18-19, 2020, mass shooting where 22 people were killed across the province. Proceedings this week are virtual, and Wiley is testifying via a closed video link with media, lawyers and the commission, which will not be webcast.
Wiley spoke to RCMP shortly after the 2020 murders and with commission investigators last June. He is no longer based in Nova Scotia, and has said he was shocked to find out the gunman, Gabriel Wortman, was the same man he'd visited in Portapique, N.S. for tips on local crime.
"Aside from the hurt, you do ask yourself questions. Like, I had a certain number of contacts with this guy. Did I miss anything? Was I asleep at the wheel here? Could I have somehow been on top of this better or whatever?" Wiley told the commission.
"All I can answer to that is … I do have a conscience, but I do sleep at night."
First met after tool theft
Wiley said he had developed a professional relationship with the gunman after responding to a break-in at his garage where tools were stolen around 2007 or 2008 when Wiley was working out of the Bible Hill detachment.
Once most of the tools were recovered and the case was closed, Wiley said he kept checking in with the man frequently because he "knew the value" of having community contacts, a lesson he'd picked up as a cadet at the RCMP Depot in Saskatchewan.
"And isn't it ironic how things have turned out?" said Wiley.
The Mountie estimated he dropped in to visit the gunman about 16 times over the years, often sitting and chatting together having a soda in the cottage living room, or just standing in the driveway. He said some of his Portapique visits would last an hour or more if he wasn't responding to other calls.
It's unclear exactly when Wiley's visits took place, but most appear to be between 2008 and 2011 before he was transferred to the Parrsboro area in neighbouring Cumberland County. Wiley said he last saw the gunman on a Colchester County wooded trail in 2017 when Wortman drove by him on an ATV, and before that had not seen him in "years, probably."
The gunman never seemed overly interested in his RCMP uniform or car, Wiley said, adding he would never have guessed the same man who hosted him in his large Portapique cottage would eventually create a mock RCMP cruiser he drove through communities killing strangers, neighbours and acquaintances.
Wiley told the commission he had a "fairly good handle on" Wortman, who was always polite, and said he didn't "come across as a violent guy to me."
Halifax police call after threat to parents
A couple years after Wiley struck up a connection with the gunman, a Halifax Regional Police officer reached out to Wiley in June 2010 about a tip that Wortman had threatened to kill his parents in New Brunswick.
Cordell Poirier, a retired Halifax Regional Police officer of 35 years, said in a commission interview that an RCMP officer from Moncton, N.B., called to tell him about the alleged threat. The gunman's father also had reported that his son was an alcoholic with "several long-barrel weapons." The gunman never had a firearms licence.
Poirier investigated but decided there wasn't grounds for a search warrant at the gunman's Dartmouth home.
The Halifax officer then spoke with Wiley over the phone about the complaint. Wiley "told me that he was a good friend" of the gunman's, according to Poirier, and would go try to find out if he indeed had weapons at his Portapique cottage.
Poirier said he never heard back from Wiley, and closed the file on his end.
Regional
police investigators confer outside the Atlantic Denture Clinic on
April 20, 2020, in Dartmouth, Nova Scotia. The gunman Gabriel Wortman
owned the clinic and lived in the apartment above it for years. (Tim Krochak/Getty Images)
But Wiley told the commission he didn't recall hearing from another officer about a threats complaint, didn't recognize Poirier's name, and didn't remember ever asking Wortman about guns — but insisted he must have.
"If I told the guy I was going to speak to Gabriel about that, I would have spoke to Gabriel about it," Wiley said. "Like, I wouldn't have been derelict in that."
Wiley did recall talking with the gunman about some type of "disagreement" he had about a will or property with his family in New Brunswick, "but he wasn't over the top about it." The situation seemed like a typical thing Wiley himself experienced growing up on a farm in Ontario, he said.
Wiley said he didn't see any gun rack or weapons at the cottage, but never searched the home.
What exactly Wiley did in 2010 to investigate the weapons and threat tip is unknown, as the RCMP files from that time have been purged as part of their regular practice. Wiley also searched for any of his notes about the gunman, but found none.
The remains of Gabriel Wortman's Portapique cottage and burnt car in Portapique, N.S. in May 2020. (Steve Lawrence/CBC)
During that 2010 visit, Lisa Banfield has said Wiley asked Wortman if he had any guns. The gunman showed the Mountie an old musket and one decorative gun above a fireplace that was filled with wax. Wiley was only in the Portapique cottage for about 10 minutes and didn't seem to take an official statement from the gunman, nor did he search the home, said Banfield.
Lawyers for the victims' families, including Michael Scott of Patterson Law, have asked for Wiley to come before the inquiry.
Scott has questioned whether Wiley was the right officer to be assigned to investigate the gunman given their connection, and said he's unclear on the "appropriateness of those interactions."
A year later in May 2011, an officer safety bulletin about the gunman was sent to all police agencies in the province based on an anonymous tip given to Cpl. Greg Densmore of the Truro Police Service.
Densmore said an unknown man had approached him while on duty and said the gunman "stated he wants to kill a cop."
Wiley doesn't recall following up on 2011 tip
According to Densmore's report, the source said Wortman had "at least one handgun" he'd take between Dartmouth and Portapique, plus "several long rifles located at his cottage" that may be stored in a "compartment located behind the flue."
"Use extreme caution when dealing with WORTMAN," the bulletin said.
Poirier recognized the name, and called the RCMP's Bible Hill detachment, where he spoke with on-duty supervisor Const. John MacMinn. MacMinn said he'd review Wiley's file on the 2010 threat to "determine what action, if any, was taken last year" and get back to Poirier.
But Poirer said that never happened, so from his perspective "that was it" and he left the case with the RCMP.
Chief Dan Kinsella of the Halifax Regional Police recently testified before the inquiry that it was up to the RCMP to take ownership of investigating that tip because the guns were reportedly in the Portapique cottage in Mountie territory.
Twenty-two
people died on April 18 and 19, 2020. Top row from left: Gina Goulet,
Dawn Gulenchyn, Jolene Oliver, Frank Gulenchyn, Sean McLeod, Alanna
Jenkins. Second row: John Zahl, Lisa McCully, Joey Webber, Heidi
Stevenson, Heather O'Brien and Jamie Blair. Third row from top: Kristen
Beaton, Lillian Campbell, Joanne Thomas, Peter Bond, Tom Bagley and Greg
Blair. Bottom row: Emily Tuck, Joy Bond, Corrie Ellison and Aaron Tuck.
(CBC)
He said if a similar bulletin came into Halifax police, his expectation is that action would be taken "right then and there."
"It's not to go into a database to be looked at later, and hopefully somebody finds it. Whether that happens in every instance, I don't know," Kinsella said.
In his interview with police, Wiley said he didn't remember seeing the Densmore bulletin with details about Wortman wanting to kill a cop, or any conversations with MacMinn. When the commission asked about whether hearing that the gunman wanted to kill a cop was alarming, Wiley said he doesn't remember getting something "that formal."
"How I thought of him as a person was benign, so … I knew Dr. Jekyll, but I didn't know Mr. Hyde at all," Wiley said.
Any records of Wiley's or other RCMP officers' investigations into the 2011 tip, if they happened, have also been purged from the system.
Scott has told CBC that details like the 2011 tipster referencing firearms being stored in a compartment in the flue in the gunman's cottage suggest first-hand knowledge — and that's "pretty reliable information" for a warrant.
The commission also plans to question Wiley about his involvement in the case of Susie Butlin, a Tatamagouche woman who was killed by her neighbour in September 2017 after reporting him to RCMP for sexual assault and harassment.
When Butlin called the RCMP on Aug. 26, 2017 to report harassing messages from her neighbour trying to intimidate her to drop a peace bond application against him, Wiley was assigned as the lead investigator. He discussed the messages with Butlin, and determined there was no basis to lay a criminal charge.
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RCMP officers involved in N.S. mass shooting inquiry linked to gaps in earlier murder case
Inquiry releases unredacted review into Susie Butlin's case
The Mass Casualty Commission leading the inquiry into the April 2020 mass shooting where 22 people were killed released new information Monday about the officers involved in the case around Susie Butlin.
Butlin of Tatamagouche, N.S., was shot and killed by her neighbour Ernie (Junior) Duggan months after reporting him to the RCMP for sexual assault and harassment. Her case has been brought up at the inquiry during panels around police oversight and gender-based violence, and happened in the same Colchester RCMP district where the mass shooting began in Portapique.
Jennifer Cox, commission counsel, said Monday the inquiry had finally been given a copy of an internal police review of how RCMP handled Butlin's case with officers' names visible.
Cox said the RCMP originally blocked the names because it was "unilaterally decided as irrelevant to the work of the commission," but they pushed back and a full report with the officers' names was presented.
This delay in disclosing the officers' names impacted the commission's ability to do their work as they interviewed certain officers or brought them to testify, Cox said.
"We did potentially lose some opportunities to question them at that time," Cox told the commission Monday.
Commission counsel Jennifer Cox addresses the Mass Casualty Commission
inquiry into the mass murders in Halifax on Monday. (The Canadian
Press/Andrew Vaughan)
Cox also noted other situations, reports and inquiries across Canada where she said the RCMP has destroyed information they deemed irrelevant, like the Colton Boushie review, or disclosed it too late to be acted upon.
"This is something that has been a process that has a consistent pattern and has an impact on things like this commission," Cox said.
The Butlin report with various redactions was disclosed by Department of Justice counsel to the commission last October, according to an email from department spokesperson Geneviève Groulx. On July 11 the commission asked that this be reconsidered, and Groulx said that justice lawyers "determined that some redactions were not justified."
She said a new version of the report was disclosed on Aug.5, with the officers' names now included.
The Butlin case became a focal point during a roundtable discussion at the inquiry last month. Various experts implied that RCMP members involved in Butlin's case seem to have had a fundamental misunderstanding of consent that affected the rest of their interactions with her.
One of the officers involved in Butlin's case was Const. Stuart Beselt, who led the team that walked through Portapique in search of the mass shooter on April 18, 2020.
RCMP
Const. Stuart Beselt, one of the first officers on the scene in
Portapique, N.S., fields a question at the Mass Casualty Commission
inquiry into the mass murders during his testimony in Halifax in March. (Andrew Vaughan/Canadian Press)
The Butlin review, completed in 2018, said that Beselt responded to an incident at Duggan's home on Aug. 21, 2017.
That night, his wife April Duggan called police to say she was worried Duggan was going to kill Butlin after flying into "a rage" about the peace bond application she'd filed against him at the suggestion of the RCMP. She reported Duggan had kicked down a door in their home, and he might be going to get a gun.
Beselt went to the Duggan home with Const. Rodney MacDonald, who also was later involved in the mass shooting response and helped set up containment in Portapique on April 18.
Both officers found Duggan, who had been drinking, and he told the officers he would "never hurt anyone."
MacDonald left to speak with April Duggan. Beselt then went next door to talk with Butlin, but the review said that conversation was not documented. Soon after this, police found out that Duggan was driving his truck and he was arrested and charged for impaired driving.
The review said this investigation was incomplete, and there appears to be "very concerning" information from the Aug. 21 incident that was "overlooked or not acted upon," including how police did not take a statement from April Duggan about what she heard or saw, and no follow-up was done to see if Duggan did have a firearm.
Wiley handled report of harassment
The commission interviewed Beselt last July, before he testified at the inquiry in March, but he was never asked about his role in Butlin's case. MacDonald was not asked about his involvement either when he was interviewed by the commission last September.
Another officer in Butlin's case, Const. Greg Wiley, visited the mass shooter more than a dozen times years before the mass shooting, and was asked to investigate the gunman's threats to kill his parents in 2010.
The review said when Butlin called the RCMP on Aug. 26, 2017 to report harassing messages from Duggan trying to intimidate her to drop the peace bond, Wiley was assigned as the lead investigator.
Wiley discussed the messages with Butlin, and determined there was no basis to lay a criminal charge. He also told Butlin to block Duggan on Facebook.
"Given the ongoing events since the initial sexual assault complaint, these allegations should have been taken seriously and a thorough investigation conducted," the review said, including getting copies of the messages and speaking with Duggan.
"Without taking these steps it is impossible to review and determine if any charges were warranted in relation to harassment or intimidation," the review said.
The commission already interviewed Wiley last June, and he is expected to testify at the inquiry next week.
Suzanne
Davis of Truro Heights, N.S. says she'd like to see the inquiry
interview officers involved in the events leading up to her friend Susie
Butlin's death. (Paul Poirier/CBC)
One of Butlin's best friends, Suzanne Davis, said she knows exactly what she'd ask the officers who handled Butlin's case if given the opportunity.
"I would ask them why they weren't listening," Davis said Monday. "They didn't take her seriously."
Davis said she'd like to see Beselt brought back before the commission to answer questions about the Butlin case.
The commission will be taking further steps to rectify this situation, Cox said Monday, to see if they can find a way to "overcome the fact that we might have missed opportunities to question witnesses."
When CBC asked whether the commission has requested new interviews with Beselt, MacDonald or other RCMP officers involved in Butlin's case, investigations director Barbara McLean said if further information is required from those officers, the commission "will determine the best way to hear from them."
The Civilian Review and Complaints Commission, the RCMP's national watchdog, announced last month it is also investigating how the Mounties handled Butlin's case leading up to her murder.
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RCMP officer visited N.S. gunman at least 16 times, but says he saw no weapons
New document lays out actions police took around complaints about gunman before 2020
A new report released Tuesday by the public inquiry examining the mass shooting that took 22 lives lays out the actions police took in response to complaints about Gabriel Wortman in 2010, 2011 and 2013.
It also details numerous visits made to the cottage by Bible Hill RCMP Const. Greg Wiley, who said he developed a rapport with the man beginning around 2008 and last saw him in 2017. Wiley was asked to follow up on at least one of the complaints against him.
"We get a gazillion threats complaints … everybody and their dog's phoning in," Wiley told RCMP investigators six days after the shooting, according to a transcript released by the inquiry.
"Doing the, the checkups it's — it's not realistic. I don't — I don't think the force dropped the ball on this."
The first complaint was from an uncle who reported Wortman had made death threats against his parents, who lived in New Brunswick. The second instance was a tip circulated by town police in Truro, N.S., that Wortman wanted to "kill a cop." The third time involved a neighbour who reported to police concerns about his behaviour.
In the months after the shootings, RCMP said they were looking into what contact police previously had with the gunman.
The commission leading the public inquiry spoke to more than 20 people — including friends and people who worked on his property — who recalled seeing the gunman's firearms or hearing him talk about them. Some saw him use his gun and were familiar with the places he stored them in his cottage in Portapique.
2010 threats to parents
Cordell Poirier, a retired Halifax Regional Police officer of 35 years, first heard the gunman's name early on June 2, 2010, when a RCMP officer from Moncton, N.B., called to tell him about a threats complaint.
The Mountie said Paul Wortman, the gunman's father, had gotten a call from his brother Glynn Wortman in Edmonton. Glynn Wortman said Gabriel Wortman had called him while upset about a family land deal, and he was threatening to "go to Moncton and kill his parents," Poirier recalled in an interview with the commission.
The RCMP officer also told Poirier he'd learned from Paul Wortman that his son was "a bad alcoholic, and has possession of several long-barrel weapons."
Poirier and another officer went around 3:30 a.m. to the Portland Street address in Dartmouth, N.S., where Gabriel Wortman lived and had his denturist office. They spoke to his partner, Lisa Banfield, at the door, who said he had passed out drunk a few hours earlier.
Banfield told them there were no weapons in the house, Poirier said in his initial report, and would not confirm or deny the threat Wortman made about his parents.
Although Poirier said he needed to speak with him in person and left his card, he did not hear anything. He followed up on his next regular day shift on June 7, and went to the Portland Street home again but no one answered the door.
Halifax
Regional Police investigators confer outside the Atlantic Denture
Clinic on April 20, 2020, in Dartmouth, N.S. The clinic was owned by the
gunman, and was visited by a Halifax Regional Police officer in 2010
about alleged threats he made about his parents. (Tim Krochak/Getty Images)
As he was heading back to his cruiser, Poirier said he got a call from Wortman who said he was calling from Banfield's phone in Portapique.
He wouldn't "admit or deny" making the threat about his parents and said he would be away for the next month at the Portapique cottage and a trip to New England, Poirier told the commission.
When Poirer said he still wanted to eventually meet in person, Wortman became confrontational and said the only weapons that he had in the house were "a pellet gun and two antique muskets, both non-functional."
"That conversation ended with him saying, 'Look, if you're going to charge, charge me,' and he hung up," Poirier said.
Poirier said he tried multiple times to speak directly with the uncle, Glynn Wortman, but he always got an answering machine and his calls were never returned.
Poirier did then speak with Paul Wortman. The father "was convinced" the gunman, who had no firearms licence, had several serious weapons including pistols and long-barrelled guns, but Paul Wortman hadn't seen them himself in more than five years.
Given that time gap, Poirer noted in his report that "without recent knowledge a Public Safety Warrant could not be obtained." He also told Paul Wortman the threat file couldn't go anywhere unless he got "some co-operation" from the uncle.
Soon after his call with Gabriel Wortman, Poirier said he spoke with Wiley over the phone about the firearms complaint. Wiley "told me that he was a good friend" of the man's, according to Poirier, and would go try to find out if he indeed had weapons at his cottage.
He didn't speak with Wiley again until July 17, Poirier said, and Wiley still hadn't spoken with Wortman. Poirier said he found it "strange" the RCMP officer still hadn't met with the man well over a month after getting the report. Wiley told Poirier he would try to follow up in the next two days.
After
police shot and killed the gunman at a gas station in Enfield, N.S.,
they found five firearms in his possession: three handguns and two
rifles. He obtained three of them in Houlton, Maine. (Mass Casualty Commission)
But Poirier said he never heard back from Wiley, so he closed the file because there were "no grounds" to follow up or lay a threat charge.
"I was hoping that with the information I'd given the RCMP, they would be able to find something out on their end," Poirer told the commission.
Wiley had been aware of Wortman's family dispute from previous visits to his Portapique cottage while on patrol in the area.
However, his recollection differs from Poirier's account. In an interview with the Mass Casualty Commission on June 11, 2021, Wiley said he didn't recall hearing from another officer about a threats complaint, didn't recognize Poirier's name, and didn't remember ever asking Wortman about guns — but insisted he must have.
"If I told the guy I was going to speak to Gabriel about that, I would have spoke to Gabriel about it," Wiley said. "Like, I wouldn't have been derelict in that."
Wiley also said he saw no evidence of firearms any of the approximately 16 times he was there over the years.
He had developed a professional relationship with the gunman years earlier, describing him as polite and welcoming, after responding to a break-in at his garage where tools were stolen. Wiley said once most of the tools were recovered and the case was closed, he checked in with the man frequently.
"I knew the value of having a few people in the community that you go to, and ironically, this is the irony of it, I was going to a guy, him of all guys and asking um 'Is there anything that we sh-should know about or anyone — anyone that should be on our radar?' And isn't it ironic how things have turned out?" said Wiley.
Wiley said he didn't see any weapons at the cottage.
Tip to police he wanted to 'kill a cop'
The next time Poirier saw the gunman's name was in a report on May 3, 2011, from Cpl. Greg Densmore of the Truro Police Service. Densmore said an unknown man had approached him while on duty and said Wortman "stated he wants to kill a cop."
According to Densmore's report, the source said Wortman had "at least one handgun" he'd take between Dartmouth and Portapique, plus "several long rifles located at his cottage" that may be stored in a "compartment located behind the flue."
The report was also issued as an "officer safety bulletin" to all police agencies in the province on May 4. It said police had been told Wortman was under a lot of stress and has "mental issues."
"Use extreme caution when dealing with WORTMAN," the bulletin said.
"Of course, when I saw that one, the first thing I noticed was the name, and you know, ding-dong, I said, 'I remember him,'" Poirier told the commission.
Poirier called Densmore to fill him in on the 2010 threats file, and Densmore shared that the source told him Wortman stored his handgun in his bedside night stand.
Twenty-two
people died on April 18 and 19, 2020. Top row from left: Gina Goulet,
Dawn Gulenchyn, Jolene Oliver, Frank Gulenchyn, Sean McLeod, Alanna
Jenkins. Second row: John Zahl, Lisa McCully, Joey Webber, Heidi
Stevenson, Heather O'Brien and Jamie Blair. Third row from top: Kristen
Beaton, Lillian Campbell, Joanne Thomas, Peter Bond, Tom Bagley and Greg
Blair. Bottom row: Emily Tuck, Joy Bond, Corrie Ellison and Aaron Tuck.
(CBC)
At this time Poirier said he called the Bible Hill detachment again and spoke with on-duty supervisor Const. John MacMinn, filling him in about the Truro report and his contact with Wiley the year before.
MacMinn said he'd review Wiley's file on the 2010 threat to "determine what action, if any, was taken last year" and get back to Poirier within a day.
But Poirer said that never happened, so from his perspective "that was it" and he left the case with the RCMP.
"I wasn't going to continually call back saying, 'what's going on?' … they're handling it, so whatever they did, they did," Poirier said.
Poirier said that was the last time he heard of the gunman until "that horrible day when I heard the name" after the 2020 mass shooting.
In his interview with police, Wiley said he didn't remember seeing the Densmore bulletin with details about Wortman wanting to kill a cop, or any conversations with MacMinn. He said he never saw Wortman as a threat.
"The whole thing seems so strange to me because … the guy just came across as polite," he said. "How I thought of him as a person was benign, so … I knew Dr. Jekyll, but I didn't know Mr. Hyde at all."
According to commission documents, Densmore couldn't find any more details about the unknown source who tipped him off in his notes, and when he tried to check his original Truro police incident report the files had been "purged from the system."
Neighbour was fearful in 2013
A former neighbour of Wortman's, Brenda Forbes, said she told police in the summer of 2013 that she'd heard he had held down and beaten Banfield behind one of the properties he owned in Portapique. Forbes also told police he had illegal weapons, which she had seen herself in 2007 or 2008.
She said she spoke to Glynn Wortman, who said he witnessed the violent incident. Forbes said she spoke to two RCMP officers, but the uncle refused to talk with police because he worried his nephew "would kill him."
The officers told Forbes they had no proof the gunman had any weapons, she recalled, but they would "keep an eye" on him.
Const. Troy Maxwell, the RCMP officer who took her July 6, 2013, complaint, provided the commission with one page of his notes.
According to the RCMP's internal review of their records of Forbes's complaint, Maxwell remembered it was about concerns Wortman was acting "aggressively in the neighbourhood." The review found no indication in the records that it involved domestic violence.
Maxwell went to the Portapique cottage twice, with two different colleagues, with "negative results," and there were no more details on the complaint.
Union says police followed the law
Brian Sauvé, president of the National Police Federation, which represents RCMP members below the rank of inspector, said Tuesday there was "insufficient evidence" to allow RCMP officers to secure a warrant to search for firearms at Wortman's residence when police were informed of his weapons in 2010 and 2011.
"However tempting it may be to wish that such protections from police were not available to the perpetrator before he became a threat to our community, it is important to the integrity of our justice system that police adhere to their training and to uphold the law in all circumstances," Sauvé said in an email.
Based on the information presented by the inquiry about the nature of the reports that police received regarding Wortman's firearms, Sauvé said, "it is clear that our members followed the law and their training," and were not able to take further steps to investigate without more reliable evidence.
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By Paul Palango
The deliberate murkiness about Gabriel Wortman’s associations with criminals in the years prior to his deadly killing sprees has led to much speculation about what he was really doing. The RCMP says it couldn’t find any serious organized crime connections in Wortman’s past. The Mounties couldn’t figure out where his money came from. The Mass Casualty Commission – the Spinquiry, as we call it – isn’t all that curious about any of it, either.
We don’t know precisely what Wortman was doing all those years before he killed 22 people on April 18 and 19, 2020, but several police sources have provided Frank Magazine with a potentially helpful road map.
It begins with Hogwarts.
We’re not talking about Harry Potter’s magic school, but rather Project Hogwarts, a joint-forces police operation that began in Nova Scotiain 2016.
The information about Project Hogwarts was provided to Frank Magazine by a group of current and former law enforcement officers who are familiar with aspects of what had taken place. One of them is Jimmy McNulty, the pseudonym we use for a source we’ve been talking to for this story since almost the beginning.
“In 2015, the Atlantic provinces started seeing a new stage in the proliferation of outlaw motorcycle gangs,” said Jimmy McNulty. “The Hells Angels were moving east, setting up in Charlottetown and Nova Scotia. The Red Devils, the Angels’ number one support club, set up shop in Musquodoboit Harbour. Another support club, the Gatekeepers MC(I remember those guys!-ed.) started opening up clubhouses around the province. They were supported by the Sedition MC and the Darksiders MC.”
It had been about 14 years since the Hells Angels had been driven out of Nova Scotia after a series of devastating police actions, and now the gang was coming back to town, not only in the Maritimes but also across the country. It was part of a strategy to control the illegal drug trade from coast to coast.
The RCMP was on the case. In fact, then Commissioner Robert Paulson had made taking down the Hells Angels his number one crime-fighting priority in Canada. RCMP projects were being initiated everywhere to counter the threat.
“People were noticing that the bikers were setting up shop and began to complain about it all,” McNulty said. “By the spring of 2016, police forces in Nova Scotia, led by the RCMP, tried to tackle the issue. A provincial biker enforcement unit called the CFSEU (Combined Forces Special Enforcement Unit) was set up as part of RCMP federal operations. It was called Project Hogwarts.
“Our intention was to show the outlaw motorcycle gangs that we always control the grounds in our area,” McNulty said. “Our media mouth pieces used fear tactics to rouse the public about the dangers and we began our policing.”
Stories to that end, like one by Keith Doucette of The Canadian Press in late 2016, began sounding the alarm.
“It doesn’t sit well with me for them to be here because I know what they bring with them,” Doucette wrote, quoting RCMP Corporal Andy Cook. “I’ve seen them in action, and they bring violence with them and they bring drug trafficking with them.”
Stephen Schneider, a criminology professor at St. Mary’s University, told Doucette that the Hells Angels were looking to not only control the Canadian market but were likely also planning to set up an export market.
“They are certainly operating pill presses out in B.C. and perhaps they want to start setting up production facilities in the Maritimes so they actually can start exporting,” Schneider was quoted as saying.
Throughout 2016 and 2017, the pages of Frank were littered with biker stories, not only big-picture stuff like who was pulling the strings in Nova Scotia — full-patch London, Ont. HA David (Hammer) MacDonald was one of the top guys — but identifying the comings and goings of many of the smaller players on the ground here, from Annapolis County to Sydney.
Project Hogwarts was lead by RCMP Inspector Alfredo Bangloy. The “brains” of the operation was RCMP Sgt. Angela Hawryluk. Other members of the original team included then-Cpl. (now Sgt.) Mike Kerr, RCMP constables Chris Dodge, Scott Morrison, Peter Hurley and Colby Smith. Halifax Police officers on the team included Detective constables Steve Fairbairn, Nathan Cross, Curtis Osmond, Mike Carter, Cory Simmonds and Rebecca Trueman. A civilian working with the unit was Ellen Urquhart.
As the team conducted its surveillance, they became aware of then 47-year-old Robin Moulton, a high-profile Hells Angels Nomad from New Brunswick, making his presence known in Nova Scotia. The Nomads are elite Hells Angels members who have no set club house and are said to have earned their ranking by having killed for the club, although Moulton does not appear to have ever been charged with murder. Moulton’s lawyer, T.J. Burke did not respond to a request for comment on this or previous stories.
“We focused a lot on Moulton and even put a tracker on his vehicle,” McNulty said. “We followed him back to New Brunswick and were able to identify various real estate and businesses to which he was associated.
“The investigation was proceeding smoothly until the RCMP brass in New Brunswick caught wind that we had expanded into New Brunswick and were chasing bikers on their turf. They were pissed,” McNulty said. “They wanted to shut us down.”
Before that happened, a parallel operation to Hogwarts was set up in New Brunswick – Operation Trident.
The Nova Scotia CFSEU investigation is archived in the RCMP’s PROS record system under file number 2016-979629, McNulty said. The New Brunswick one is filed in the PROS system as 2016-1141937. Frank Magazine will be filing a request to see those files in due course.
In 2016, the outlaw-biker obsessed Commissioner Paulson put assistant commissioner Larry Tremblay in charge of the New Brunswick RCMP. A former member of the Canadian Navy, Tremblay joined the RCMP and rose through the ranks. Between 2004 and 2008 he was seconded to the Canadian Security Intelligence Service. In Ottawa, Tremblay ran national security, financial crimes and serious organized crime investigations until 2014. He then moved into protective services, hobnobbing with the political elite, overseeing security for the Prime Minister, Governor General and Parliament, a tried-and-true steppingstone to the upper echelons of the RCMP.
Tremblay had no sooner hit the ground in New Brunswick when he began to put in place his own hand-picked team to take on the Hells Angels. Many of them were trusted French speakers, like then Staff-Sgt. Dustine Rodier, who took command of the Hampton, N.B. detachment, which was at the centre of the action. people he believed he could trust. McNulty said that many of the investigators from Hogwarts and Trident were rolled into two new operations: Projects J-Thunderstruckand J-Thunder.
Project J-Thunderstruck targeted Hells Angels Nomad Emery “Pit” Martin who was operating in Northern New Brunswick, along the border with Quebec.
Project Thunder’s focus was on his fellow Nomad Robin Moulton and the Red Devils, in particular, in Southern New Brunswick and Nova Scotia.
It could be reasonably argued that creating large interprovincial operations made sense, considering that the entire population of the Maritimes is less than that of the city of Toronto.
The new investigators added to the investigation roster included Inspector Deanna Hill, Inspector Ron DeSilva, Staff Sergeants Bruce Reid, Sgt. Eric Lanteigne and Constable Julie Messina. Other key players included Fredericton Sgt. Mike Berry and Corporal Gerard Crispo. There were additional investigators from RCMP federal services, Fredericton Police, the Canadian Border Security Agency and other policing jurisdictions.
Here’s where the investigations started to get tricky.
“Any RCMP investigation of outlaw bikers requires an informant, someone the Mounties can control,” McNulty said.
In early 2017, he said, the team was told that the RCMP indeed had a new informant for Project Thunder.
“We were told that they had someone in the Truro-Portapique area who was tied into MS-13 and the Angels,” McNulty said. “The Mounties were hot on it.”
For those familiar with this ongoing saga, the El Salvadoran street gang Mara Salvatrucha or MS-13 – “the most notorious street gang in the Western Hemisphere” – is linked to precisely one person in that area – Wortman’s friend and handyman Peter Alan Griffon.
The RCMP and the Spinquiry have all but made the 42-year-old Griffon invisible in spite of his obvious credentials as a witness that many in the public would like to see testify. Griffon was reportedly working on Wortman’s property in the hours leading up to the beginning of the massacres. He called Lisa Banfield’s phone on a number of occasions. Griffon also told police that he was the person who applied the RCMP decals to a decommissioned police car, creating the near perfect replica of an RCMP cruiser that Wortman used during his 13.5-hour spree. Griffon was never charged and his current whereabouts are unknown.
Parole Board of Canada documents describe the circumstances of his 2014 arrest as part of an investigation into MS-13 elements in Edmonton.
“In December 2014 police were conducting an investigation into a known Security Threat Group(STG). You came to their attention through this investigation and on the same day, police stopped a vehicle you were driving. The vehicle was searched and police found cash, a baggie with 3 grams of cocaine, a black backpack containing approximately 800 grams of cocaine, more cash, a score sheet, a portable hard drive and a camera. Police also located multiple cell phones in the vehicle.
“A short time later, police searched a warehouse where you were living. A number of items were found, including multiple firearms and ammunition, approximately 4 kilos of cocaine, $30,000 in cash and various paraphernalia used to buff, package, and traffic cocaine. You did not have a licence to possess any of the weapons and admitted to the police that you worked for a cocaine distribution operation and his job was to store, process, distribute, and transport cocaine to traffickers.”
Griffon languished in an Alberta jail for several years, partly because of a day parole violation, and eventually received a relatively short sentence of two years, eight months and nine days.
The obvious problem with Griffon being the sole RCMP informant was that in 2017 he was still imprisoned in Alberta and didn’t win his parole until August 2018. Once he was paroled, Griffon was allowed to move back to live in his parents’ house, which was located several hundred meters south of Wortman’s cottage at 200 Portapique Beach Road.
“We didn’t get a name on the informant, but I firmly believe it was Wortman and that he was the one who supplied the hydraulic pill presses to the Hells Angels. He fit the profile perfectly,” McNulty said.
The danger for the police, McNulty added, was that Wortman was also a criminal who might have been playing both sides at the same time.
Wherever the truth lies, McNulty said that there was likely a natural evolution of the relationship between Wortman and the RCMP. Wortman had family members who were Mounties and he associated with police officers on a regular basis. It likely all began with a simple relationship, exchanging information with police officers such as Halifax constable Barry Warnell and RCMP constable Greg Wiley, who visited Wortman 16 times until early 2017.
“The thing to note is that Wiley told the MCC that he had no notes about their conversations, which I find hard to believe. That’s not the way the Mounties roll. They report everything,” McNulty said. “What Wiley did say was that he would check in with Wortman about minor criminal activity in the community. That tells you something right there.”
McNulty and their group believe that as Project Thunder got off the ground, the RCMP relationship with Wortman moved to the next level – agent.
“That’s where the big money is,” McNulty said. “He would have had a professional handler at that point. I believe that Mountie was Constable Peter Hurley. That was his specialty. He was the kind of handler who promised the moon to potential informants and even more so to agents, but the RCMP is notorious for not following through.”
Once New Brunswick took over, Inspector DeSilva, then head of the Federal Serious and Organized Crime Unit, assumed the handler responsibility, McNulty said.
We may never know the true story. It would be a criminal offense for a Mountie to reveal the identity of an informant or agent, even after they are dead. The RCMP undercover manual instructs members to lie to everyone but a judge about such matters.
What we do know is what we are allowed to know.
When Moulton was arrested in August 2017, he was charged with possession of cocaine for the purpose of trafficking and possession of a restricted firearm – a 9 mm Beretta. Not much considering all the effort when you think about it.
At the time of his arrest, CBC News asked then Fredericton Police Chief Leanne Fitchabout the investigation. She said: “Getting down into the weeds of any particular aspect of ongoing or past or present issues could jeopardize investigations and officer and public safety, so I won’t be commenting on any specifics.”
In 2018, Moulton received a rather short sentence of four years and six months.
There was a good reason why that happened, McNulty said.
“The agent was still in place and the RCMP couldn’t reveal everything they knew because that would point to the agent, so they left important things out so they could continue their investigation,” McNulty said. “It could be argued that there was a miscarriage of justice. Moulton’s lawyer wasn’t given all the facts about what the police had been doing.”
The twin projects concluded on April 9, 2020 with the announcement by Inspector DeSilva that two more Hells Angels member and two Red Devils had been arrested in New Brunswick over the previous seven weeks. DeSilva went out of his way to link the arrests to the previous ones of Moulton and Martin, three and two years earlier, respectively. In October, 2021 Martin received a seven-and-a-half year prison term for cocaine trafficking and acting in the benefit of a criminal organization.
“One of the most dangerous times is the end of an operation,” another police source said, echoing the thoughts of others. “By that time, the bad guys, especially the bikers, usually have a good idea about who the rat was.”
Nine days after the projects closed, Wortman began his rampage.
From the closed and dangerous world of outlaw bikers, I continue to hear stories about how Wortman was identified as a snitch and had his life threatened over what happened to Moulton, Martin and the others. No one yet will go on the record, which comes as no surprise, considering the, um, grave consequences.
As for the Mounties, they have their own Hogwarts thing – a magical ability to make controversies disappear into the wind.
In the spring of 2020, around the time of the massacres or shortly afterward, multiple sources say that Hurley was transferred to Ferryland, a small RCMP detachment on the Avalon Peninsula in Newfoundland, about an hour’s drive south of St. John’s. In recent months, he has taken down his social media.
Others, such as Staff-Sgt. Reid were not so lucky. Shortly before 2 p.m. on October 25, 2019, he committed suicide at a baseball diamond in Rothesay, N.B. Reid suffered from typical psychological maladies affecting many police officers, but those who knew him closely say he was particularly distraught over his unheeded warnings about significant failings in the overall Hells Angels’ investigations. According to sources in New Brunswick, Reid believed a number of people – as many as four – had been murdered during the course of the investigation largely due to the RCMP’s shortcomings. Reid told people that he was worried sick about one of the agents that the force had employed. He strongly believed that the person was dangerous and unsuited to the task, but that no one would listen to him.
Fifteen months after the massacres, New Brunswick Attorney General Hugh Flemming took the unprecedented step of having Asst. Commissioner Tremblay removed from his posting. Flemming stated in a letter to RCMP Commissioner Brenda Lucki that he had “lost faith” in Tremblay, but gave no specifics about the roots of his dissatisfaction.
Nova Scotia’s underperforming boss, Assistant Commissioner Leona (Lee) Bergerman, was allowed to resign, as were a significant number of her underlings who were involved in the RCMP response to the massacres.
Before she retired Sgt. Hawryluk was the Mountie in charge of writing the informations to obtain search warrants in the post-massacres investigation. She became a vocal critic of Frank Magazine and me, to the point of lambasting a small store owner near where she lived over his selling my recent book, 22 Murders.
The other trick that the RCMP employs when faced with embarrassment is to promote those who might have failed and safely bury their possible transgressions in the upper echelons of the force. For example, Chief Superintendent Chris Leather was moved to a federal policing leadership role in Ottawa.
Staff-Sgt Rodier was promoted to Inspector and was running the Communicatons wing and 911 operations for the RCMP on the weekend of the massacres. After that debacle she received another promotion to Superintendent.
Superintendent Darren Campbell was given a bump to Chief Superintendent and placed in charge of operations in New Brunswick.
His new boss was now Assistant Commissioner Deanna Hill. She was a key player in Projects Thunder and Thunderstruck and afterward was placed in charge of the RCMP in Newfoundland.
“Tremblay put his people in place all over the Maritimes so that he could control things” McNulty said. “After he was pushed out, they brought back Deanna Hill to replace him. It’s just a continuation of what had been going on. You can’t help but think that they’ve put people in place to protect the untold story that scares the shit out of all of them.”
Next there is DeSilva. We don’t know yet what he really did – and the RCMP would never confirm or deny if he was Wortman’s handler -- but the Mounties obviously thought he did a terrific job. DeSilva was named Officer of the Year in 2017 and eventually was promoted to Superintendent. He is currently the officer in charge of the Codiac Detachment, essentially the municipal police for Moncton and its sister communities of Dieppe and Riverview. That’s where at least three of the four murders may have taken place.
One might think that the Mass Casualty Commission might be interested in poking around in all this, but one of its three Commissioners is Leanne Fitch who, to echo her CBC quote, is not the kind of person who likes “getting down into the weeds” of police investigations. The entire Commission appears to be laser focused on not getting to the bottom of the story, having avoided any potentially embarrassing exploration like that for about six months.
Its circular logic goes something like this: “We can’t explore anything that we haven’t been able to document, and we are not going to search for documents that we haven’t been told about because our mandate is not to find fault or cause trauma.”
Our mandate is quite the opposite.
If you can lend us a hand, please step forward and tell us what you know. The greater community would appreciate it very much.
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Subject: Re: N.S. Mass Casualty Commission bans sharing video and
audio of the testimony of RCMP Cst. Greg Wiley's testimony???
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Subject: Re: 13 deadly hours Methinks somebody in CBC should say hey
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N'esy Pas Mr Prime Minister Trudeau The Younger???
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On 11/23/20, David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
> https://newsinteractives.cbc.
>
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> 13 deadly hours
>
> November 22, 2020
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> Over 13 hours, a man disguised as a Mountie travelled nearly 200
> kilometres through Nova Scotia, killing 22 people. The Fifth Estate
> explores what the RCMP knew about the gunman that night, how they
> remained one step behind and why the public was left in the dark.
>
> Text by Elizabeth McMillan and Lisa Mayor
>
> Editing by Janet Davison
>
> "It seems to me that the RCMP are not wanting the entire story to come
> out about how the response to this tragedy took place," Rob Pineo, a
> lawyer representing the families of the victims in a lawsuit against
> the shooter's estate, told The Fifth Estate. "To be frank, [their
> response] seems to be quite embarrassing [for the RCMP]."
>
>
> http://davidraymondamos3.
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>
> Wednesday, 29 July 2020
>
> Federal and provincial governments to hold public inquiry into Nova
> Scotia mass shootings
>
>
> https://twitter.com/
>
> David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
> Replying to @DavidRayAmos
> Methinks lots of folks may enjoy what Peter Mac Issac and his cohorts
> said while the RCMP and a lot of LIEbranos were stuttering and
> doubletalking bigtime N'esy Pas?
>
>
> https://davidraymondamos3.
>
>
> #nbpoli #cdnpoli
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?
>
>
> Citizens Rise Against Corruption in Trudeau Government
> 18,724 views
> •Streamed live on Jul 27, 2020
>
>
> Laura-Lynn Tyler Thompson
> 38K subscribers
> Citizens Rise Against Corruption in Trudeau Government - Peter Mac Issac
>
>
> ----------Origiinal message ----------
> From: Sean.Fraser@parl.gc.ca
> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 10:33:11 +0000
> Subject: Automatic reply: YO Melanie Joly and Pablo Rodriguez Methinks
> Steven Guilbeault, his buddy Catherine Tait and all your former nasty
> minions in CBC must take courses on playing dumb N'esy Pas?
> To: david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
>
> Thank you for your message. Please note that due to the volume of
> inquiries our offices are receiving, I have written an automated
> message below, and I have attached frequently asked questions to try
> and address some of the common things we are hearing about. If you
> still have questions about the Government’s response to COVID-19 after
> reading the below, please reply to this e-mail and we will be pleased
> to assist you.
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>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: "Pineo, Robert" <RPineo@pattersonlaw.ca>
> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 15:25:26 +0000
> Subject: Re: RE Families of Shooting Victims Disappointed by
> “Independent Review” I just called Correct?
> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
> < smcculloch@pattersonlaw.ca>
> Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
> Why are you quoting my statement back to me?
>
> Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>
> ________________________________
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 9:53 AM
> To: smcculloch@pattersonlaw.ca; rpineo@pattersonlaw.ca
> Cc: motomaniac333
> Subject: RE Families of Shooting Victims Disappointed by “Independent
> Review” I just called Correct?
>
> http://www.pattersonlaw.ca/
>
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: "McCulloch, Sandra" <smcculloch@pattersonlaw.ca>
> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 12:53:30 +0000
> Subject: Automatic reply: RE Families of Shooting Victims Disappointed
> by “Independent Review” I just called Correct?
> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
>
>
> Thank you for your email. I will be away from my office conducting
> discovery examinations on July 27th through 29th. I will respond to
> your e-mail as soon as possible. Please contact 902.897.2000 if your
> matter requires more urgent
> attention.https://
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 09:53:20 -0300
> Subject: RE Families of Shooting Victims Disappointed by “Independent
> Review” I just called Correct?
> To: smcculloch@pattersonlaw.ca, rpineo@pattersonlaw.ca
> Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
> http://www.pattersonlaw.ca/
>
>
> Families of Shooting Victims Disappointed by “Independent Review”
>
> The “Independent Review” announced by Ministers Furey and Blair is
> wholly insufficient to meet the objectives of providing full and
> transparent answers to the families and the public, identifying
> deficiencies in responses, and providing meaningful lessons to be
> learned to avoid similar future tragedies.
>
> The choices of commissioners, and in particular Former Chief Justice
> Michael MacDonald, were thoughtful and appropriate for an inquiry.
> Former Chief Justice MacDonald is of the highest rank in judicial
> capabilities and is of unassailable integrity. That said, any
> decision- maker can only render decisions based on the information and
> evidence presented to them.
>
> The announced “independent review” model, to be conducted in a
> so-called “non- traumatic” and “restorative” way, will prejudice the
> panel by restricting the evidence and information being presented.
>
> In a public inquiry setting, such as was employed in the Marshall and
> Westray public inquiries, interested parties had the opportunity to
> question the witnesses. It is a very well- held maxim in our common
> law legal tradition, that cross-examination is the most effective
> truth-finding mechanism available. Without proper and thorough
> questioning, the panel will be left with incomplete and untested
> evidence upon which to base its decision. This is completely contrary
> to our Canadian notions of fair and transparent justice.
>
> Most disappointingly, Ministers Furey and Blair have hidden behind
> their contrived notion of a “trauma-free” process to exclude the full
> participation of the families under the guise of protecting them from
> further trauma. This is not how the families wish to be treated.
> Minister Furey has spoken with the families, so he must know that they
> want to participate, not to be “protected” by an incomplete process.
>
> The families want a full and transparent public inquiry. Why will
> Minister Furey not give them this? Why will he not give the citizens
> of Nova Scotia this? “We are all in this together” has been the slogan
> throughout 2020 - the families simply want us all, the public, to be
> in this together now to figure out a better tomorrow for families and
> the Province.
>
> For further inquiries, please contact:
>
> Robert H. Pineo
> 902-405-8177
> rpineo@pattersonlaw.ca
>
>
> Sandra L. McCulloch
> 902-896-6114
> smcculloch@pattersonlaw.ca
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 09:04:13 -0300
> Subject: YO Bill.Blair Now that a full Public Inquiry is in order
> Methinks people such as Anne McLellan, Ralph Goodale Leanne Fitch,
> Allan Carroll, Mark Furey and YOU should testify under oath N'esy Pas?
> To: Norman Traversy <traversy.n@gmail.com>, CabalCookies
> < cabalcookies@protonmail.com>, El.Jones@msvu.ca,
> tim@halifaxexaminer.ca, "steve.murphy" <steve.murphy@ctv.ca>,
> kevin.leahy@pps-spp.gc.ca, Charles.Murray@gnb.ca, JUSTWEB
> < JUSTWEB@novascotia.ca>, AgentMargaritaville@
> "Bill.Blair" <Bill.Blair@parl.gc.ca>, "kevin.leahy"
> < kevin.leahy@pps-spp.parl.gc.ca>, lagenomai4@protonmail.com,
> mlaritcey@bellaliant.com, mla@esmithmccrossinmla.com,
> toryrushtonmla@bellaliant.com, kelly@kellyregan.ca,
> mla_assistant@alanapaon.com, stephenmcneil@ns.aliantzinc.ca, PREMIER
> < PREMIER@gov.ns.ca>, info@hughmackay.ca, pictoueastamanda@gmail.com,
> markfurey.mla@eastlink.ca, claudiachendermla@gmail.com,
> FinanceMinister@novascotia.ca, "Bill.Morneau" <Bill.Morneau@canada.ca>
> Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>,
> kevin.leahy@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, istayhealthy8@gmail.com,
> prmi@eastlink.ca, "PETER.MACKAY" <PETER.MACKAY@bakermckenzie.
> "Katie.Telford" <Katie.Telford@pmo-cpm.gc.ca>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: Bill.Blair@parl.gc.ca
> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 21:48:08 +0000
> Subject: Automatic reply: RE The "Strike back: Demand an inquiry
> Event." Methinks it interesting that Martha Paynter is supported by
> the Pierre Elliott Trudeau Foundation N'esy Pas?
> To: david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
>
> Thank you very much for reaching out to the Office of the Hon. Bill
> Blair, Member of Parliament for Scarborough Southwest.
>
> Please be advised that as a health and safety precaution, our
> constituency office will not be holding in-person meetings until
> further notice. We will continue to provide service during our regular
> office hours, both over the phone and via email.
>
> Due to the high volume of emails and calls we are receiving, our
> office prioritizes requests on the basis of urgency and in relation to
> our role in serving the constituents of Scarborough Southwest. If you
> are not a constituent of Scarborough Southwest, please reach out to
> your local of Member of Parliament for assistance. To find your local
> MP, visit: https://www.ourcommons.ca/
>
> Moreover, at this time, we ask that you please only call our office if
> your case is extremely urgent. We are experiencing an extremely high
> volume of calls, and will better be able to serve you through email.
>
> Should you have any questions related to COVID-19, please see:
> www.canada.ca/coronavirus<http
>
> Thank you again for your message, and we will get back to you as soon
> as possible.
>
> Best,
>
>
> MP Staff to the Hon. Bill Blair
> Parliament Hill: 613-995-0284
> Constituency Office: 416-261-8613
> bill.blair@parl.gc.cabill.blair@parl.gc.ca
>
>>
>
> **
> Merci beaucoup d'avoir pris contact avec le bureau de l'Honorable Bill
> Blair, D?put? de Scarborough-Sud-Ouest.
>
> Veuillez noter que par mesure de pr?caution en mati?re de sant? et de
> s?curit?, notre bureau de circonscription ne tiendra pas de r?unions
> en personne jusqu'? nouvel ordre. Nous continuerons ? fournir des
> services pendant nos heures de bureau habituelles, tant par t?l?phone
> que par courrier ?lectronique.
>
> En raison du volume ?lev? de courriels que nous recevons, notre bureau
> classe les demandes par ordre de priorit? en fonction de leur urgence
> et de notre r?le dans le service aux ?lecteurs de Scarborough
> Sud-Ouest. Si vous n'?tes pas un ?lecteur de Scarborough Sud-Ouest,
> veuillez contacter votre d?put? local pour obtenir de l'aide. Pour
> trouver votre d?put? local, visitez le
> site:https://www.noscommunes.
>
> En outre, nous vous demandons de ne t?l?phoner ? notre bureau que si
> votre cas est extr?mement urgent. Nous recevons un volume d'appels
> extr?mement ?lev? et nous serons mieux ? m?me de vous servir par
> courrier ?lectronique.
>
> Si vous avez des questions concernant COVID-19, veuillez consulter le
> site : http://www.canada.ca/le-
>
> Merci encore pour votre message, et nous vous r?pondrons d?s que possible.
>
> Cordialement,
>
> Personnel du D?put? de l'Honorable Bill Blair
> Colline du Parlement : 613-995-0284
> Bureau de Circonscription : 416-261-8613
> bill.blair@parl.gc.cabill.blair@parl.gc.ca>
> < mailto:bill.blair@parl.gc.ca>
>
>
> After backlash, governments agree to hold public inquiry into Nova
> Scotia shooting
> By Alexander Quon & Elizabeth McSheffrey Global News
> Posted July 28, 2020 10:42 am
>
> WATCH: The federal government is now proceeding with a public inquiry
> into the Nova Scotia massacre that left 22 innocent people dead in
> April. Elizabeth McSheffrey looks at why Ottawa is changing paths now,
> and what the inquiry has the power to do.
>
> The decision to hold a review into the mass killing in April that
> resulted in the deaths of 22 people in Nova Scotia took three months
> to arrange. In less than a week the decision has been undone after a
> massive wave of public backlash.
>
> Federal Public Safety Minister Bill Blair announced on Tuesday a
> public inquiry will be held into the mass shooting that began in
> Portapique, N.S. on April 18 and came to an end nearly 100 km away, 13
> hours later.
>
> “The Government of Canada is now proceeding with a full Public
> Inquiry, under the authority of the Inquiries Act,” said Blair in a
> statement.
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: Allan Carroll <allan.carroll@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 18:14:09 -0400
> Subject: Re: Trust that Murray Segal's appointment to whitewash the
> Rehteah Parsons matter did not surprise me after the meail I sent this
> weekend (AOL)
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
> I will be AOL commencing July 27, 2013 and returning on August 13,
> 2013. Cpl David Baldwin of Amherst Det will be assuming my duties
> during my absence. Should you require immediate assistance, please
> contact the main Amherst office number at 902-667-3859.
>
> For inquiries about the Crisis Negotiation Team, please contact
> Sgt.Royce MacRae at 902-720-5426 (w) or 902-471-8776 (c)
>
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: "Fitch, Leanne" <leanne.fitch@fredericton.ca>
> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 14:05:24 +0000
> Subject: Automatic reply: Re Federal Court file no T-1557-15 Now this
> is interesting As soon as Brad Wall got reelected as Premier he began
> blocking my email Go Figure EH David Drummond???
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
> Due to a very high volume of incoming email to this account there is
> an unusual backlog of pending responses. Your query may not be repleid
> to in a timely fashion. If you require a formal response please send
> your query in writing to my attention c/o Fredericton Police Force,
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> GOV-OP-073
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>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: "Hon.Ralph.Goodale (PS/SP)" <Hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca>
> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 16:39:00 +0000
> Subject: Automatic reply: Methinks this afternoon Harjit Sajjan and
> his minions should go to Federal Court pull my file (T-1557-15) from
> the docket then read statement 83 real slow N'esy Pas?
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
> Merci d'avoir ?crit ? l'honorable Ralph Goodale, ministre de la
> S?curit? publique et de la Protection civile.
> En raison d'une augmentation importante du volume de la correspondance
> adress?e au ministre, veuillez prendre note qu'il pourrait y avoir un
> retard dans le traitement de votre courriel. Soyez assur? que votre
> message sera examin? avec attention.
> Merci!
> L'Unit? de la correspondance minist?rielle
> S?curit? publique Canada
> *********
>
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> Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness.
> Due to the significant increase in the volume of correspondence
> addressed to the Minister, please note there could be a delay in
> processing your email. Rest assured that your message will be
> carefully reviewed.
> Thank you!
> Ministerial Correspondence Unit
> Public Safety Canada
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: "Fitch, Leanne" <leanne.fitch@fredericton.ca>
> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 16:38:59 +0000
> Subject: Automatic reply: Methinks this afternoon Harjit Sajjan and
> his minions should go to Federal Court pull my file (T-1557-15) from
> the docket then read statement 83 real slow N'esy Pas?
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
>
> Due to a very high volume of incoming email to this account there is
> an unusual backlog of pending responses. Your message may not be
> responded to in a timely fashion. If you require a formal response
> please send your query in writing to my attention c/o Fredericton
> Police Force, 311 Queen St, Fredericton, NB E3B 1B1 or phone (506)
> 460-2300. If this is an emergency related to public safety please call
> 911.
>
> En raison du grand nombre de courriels que reçoit cette messagerie, il
> se peut qu’une réponse tarde un peu à venir. Si vous avez besoin d'une
> réponse officielle, veuillez envoyer votre demande par écrit à mon
> attention aux soins (a/s) de la Force policière de Fredericton 311,
> rue Queen, Fredericton, NB E3B 1B1, ou composer le 506 460-2300.
> S'il s'agit d'une urgence de sécurité publique, faites le 911.
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> interdit d'utiliser, de revoir, de retransmettre, de distribuer, de
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> présent courriel par erreur, prière de communiquer avec l'expéditeur
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>
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> GOV-OP-073
>
>
>
> https://davidraymondamos3.
>
>
> Friday, 18 September 2015
> David Raymond Amos Versus The Crown T-1557-15
>
On 9/4/22, Perkins, Rick - M.P. <rick.perkins@parl.gc.ca> wrote:
> Wow. Why a stupid decision. What are they hiding?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rick Perkins, MP
> South Shore-St. Margaret’s
> Official Opposition Shadow Minister, Fisheries, Oceans and the Canadian
> Coast Guard
> 613-995-6182
> 902-527-5655
> ________________________________
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
> Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2022 10:31:10 PM
> To: heather.decoste@
> <heather.decoste@
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> Mark.Flynn@rcmp-grc.gc.ca <Mark.Flynn@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>;
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> <Angie.Boucher@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>; Brigitte.Voitel@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
> <Brigitte.Voitel@rcmp-grc.gc.
> <Nathalie.Drouin@justice.gc.ca>; Mendicino, Marco - M.P.
> <Marco.Mendicino@parl.gc.ca>; mcu <mcu@justice.gc.ca>; PREMIER
> <PREMIER@gov.ns.ca>; info <info@masscasualtycommission.
> <info@gg.ca>; Ian.Shugart <Ian.Shugart@pco-bcp.gc.ca>; ian.fahie
> <ian.fahie@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>; Mark.Blakely <Mark.Blakely@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>;
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> <Sean.Fraser@parl.gc.ca>; Perkins, Rick - M.P. <rick.perkins@parl.gc.ca>;
> Ellis, Stephen - M.P. <stephen.ellis@parl.gc.ca>;
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> <premier@ontario.ca>; Office of the Premier <scott.moe@gov.sk.ca>;
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> heather.fairbairn@novascotia.
> elizabeth.macdonald@
> Gary.Andrea@novascotia.ca <Gary.Andrea@novascotia.ca>; dkogon@amherst.ca
> <dkogon@amherst.ca>; jmacdonald@amherst.ca <jmacdonald@amherst.ca>;
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> <andrea.anderson-mason@gnb.ca>; Ross.Wetmore <Ross.Wetmore@gnb.ca>; Stewart,
> Jake - M.P. <jake.stewart@parl.gc.ca>; Moore, Rob - M.P.
> <Rob.Moore@parl.gc.ca>; Williamson, John - M.P.
> <John.Williamson@parl.gc.ca>; Justweb@novascotia.ca <Justweb@novascotia.ca>;
> barb.whitenect <barb.whitenect@gnb.ca>; Boston.Mail
> <Boston.Mail@ic.fbi.gov>; hugh.flemming <hugh.flemming@gnb.ca>
> Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>; Fraser.Logan@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
> <Fraser.Logan@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>; paulpalango <paulpalango@protonmail.com>;
> NightTimePodcast <NightTimePodcast@gmail.com>; nsinvestigators
> <nsinvestigators@gmail.com>; Pineo, Robert <rpineo@pattersonlaw.ca>; andrew
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> Subject: N.S. Mass Casualty Commission bans sharing video and audio of the
> testimony of RCMP Cst. Greg Wiley's testimony???
>
> https://davidraymondamos3.
>
> Saturday, 3 September 2022
>
> N.S. Mass Casualty Commission bans sharing video and audio of the
> testimony of RCMP Cst. Greg Wiley's testimony??? SURPRISE SURPRISE
> SURPRISE
>
---------- Original message ----------
From: "Perkins, Rick - M.P." <rick.perkins@parl.gc.ca>
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2022 01:31:18 +0000
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Testimony from key RCMP officer at mass shooting inquiry can't be broadcast
Mass Casualty Commission made surprise announcement Friday afternoon
The comission investigating the mass shootings in Nova Scotia in April 2020 has made a surprise decision just before the long weekend to block the testimony of a key witness from public broadcast.
RCMP Const. Greg Wiley is set to testify Tuesday afternoon, but in a decision released Friday afternoon, the Mass Casualty Commission ruled that his testimony via video link would not be disseminated as either audio or video via the normal webcast.
"In order to receive the best information possible from Cst. Wiley, we have directed that Cst. Wiley's testimony not be webcast and a transcript be posted on the website," wrote the commission in its decision.
The Attorney General of Canada made an application for accommodation for Wiley, citing personal health reasons.
Wiley is the officer who visited the gunman's Portapique home 16 times in the years before the deadly rampage of April 2020.
He told investigators in an interview that he never saw anything alarming.
Accommodation granted for 'best information'
The gunman had a stash of illegal weapons and a replica RCMP cruiser, which were used in the killings of 22 people.
The commission also plans to question Wiley about his involvement in the case of Susie Butlin, a Tatamagouche woman who was killed by her neighbour in September 2017 after reporting him to RCMP for sexual assault and harassment.
When Butlin called the RCMP in August 2017 to report harassing messages from her neighbour, Wiley was assigned as the lead investigator. He discussed the messages with Butlin, and determined there was no basis to lay a criminal charge.
The commission wouldn't take questions Friday afternoon, but senior commission counsel Emily Hill released a video statement noting the public and media could still attend the proceedings on Tuesday.
"The difference in this case is that video will not be posted after on our website or published by the media or by the public," they said.
"This is in response to an accommodation request … accommodations are granted to ensure the commission receives the best information from witnesses."
Other accommodations
Hill said the request concerns personal health information and the commission could not discuss specifics.
This is the most significant accommodation the commission has made for any witness who has testified.
In May, the commission allowed two senior RCMP officers to answer questions in recorded sessions rather than testifying in front of a roomful of participants and lawyers.
Some lawyers representing families of the victims boycotted the commission proceedings because they were not permitted to directly question Andy O'Brien, now retired, and Staff Sgt. Brian Rehill. Neither session was live streamed.
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N.S. shooting inquiry bans sharing video, audio in testimony of RCMP officer
The Mass Casualty Commission has granted an accommodation to Const. Greg Wiley, stationed in Bible Hill, N.S., who had repeated contact with the gunman in the years leading up to the massacre in April 2020.
The inquiry has previously heard that Const. Wiley was a friend of Gabriel Wortman, and had investigated him after police received a report that he was threatening to kill his parents. Wiley told commission investigators he had a good rapport with the killer and visited his residence around 15 times, but never noticed anything unusual.
Wiley is also among three officers named in a 2018 police review of the gaps in the RCMP’s response to the murder case of Susie Butlin.
Now, Wiley has been granted special arrangements to facilitate his testimony, allowing him to appear virtually, but the testimony will not be streamed on the commission website.
The commission has also agreed that video and audio can’t be shared or published in any way, including by the media.
This is the first accommodation of this type for the inquiry.
“Accommodations are granted to ensure the commission receives the best information from witnesses,” said Emily Hill, the senior commission counsel Friday evening.
“Because accommodation requests contain personal health information, we cannot discuss the specifics of these requests.”
Violations of the ban could result in a charge under Section 127 of the Criminal Code, the commission said.
However, the testimony will be available for media and the public to watch in real time.
The public can request a Zoom link to view Wiley’s testimony by emailing heather.decoste@masscasualtycommission.ca.
No public broadcast for RCMP officer's testimony about N.S. mass shooter
Commissioners
Leanne Fitch, Michael MacDonald, chair, and Kim Stanton, left to right,
listen to testimony at the Mass Casualty Commission inquiry into the
mass murders in rural Nova Scotia on April 18/19, 2020, in Halifax on
Monday, July 11, 2022. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Andrew Vaughan
The testimony of an RCMP officer once described by another police officer as a "friend" of the man behind the 2020 mass shooting in Nova Scotia will not be publicly broadcast when he appears before the inquiry investigating the rampage.
The commission probing the mass shooting in rural Nova Scotia that left 22 people dead issued a written decision on Friday saying Const. Greg Wiley will answer questions via video, but his testimony will not be available to the public in real-time. Instead, a transcript of his remarks will be posted to the commission's website.
He will be the first witness to speak before the mass casualty commission whose testimony will not be aired on the livestream that has been used throughout the proceedings.
"In order to receive the best information possible from Const. Wiley, we have directed that Const. Wiley's testimony not be webcast and a transcript be posted on the website," the decision reads.
The request for accommodation was made by the federal Attorney General and means that video and audio of Wiley's answers "shall not be disseminated, released, published, or shared."
The commission said Wiley's scheduled Zoom appearance can be viewed by inquiry participants, media and members of the public who request to watch the virtual testimony. Live audio access to the proceedings will also be available by phone.
Wiley is the officer who was asked in 2010 to look into whether Gabriel Wortman -- the gunman behind the deadly shooting spree -- had firearms at his home in Portapique, N.S. when Wortman had threatened to kill his parents.
The investigation into the alleged death threat did not lead to any charges.
In his interview last year, Wiley told the commission's investigators he had a good rapport with Wortman and that they often had brief "chinwags" at the killer's residence. Wiley estimated he visited Wortman in the "ballpark" of 15 occasions over the years, but he said he hadn't noticed anything unusual.
According to a report shared by the inquiry in May, the Halifax Regional Police service led the 2010 investigation into Wortman's threats against his parents. The investigating officer, now-retired sgt. Cordell Poirier, had referred to Wiley as a "friend" of Wortman, the report said. Poirier had said he asked Wiley on several occasions to visit Wortman's Portapique residence to check for firearms and to determine if a search warrant was needed.
Wortman's spouse, Lisa Banfield, told the inquiry on July 15 that Wiley had come to the Portapique property in June 2010 to see if there were guns at the residence. Wiley's visit came after Wortman's threats.
Banfield said Wiley was shown antique guns in the house during a visit that lasted 10 minutes.
During his interview last year with lawyers for the public inquiry, Wiley was unable to recall details of the June 2010 investigation. In a followup letter to the inquiry, a lawyer for the RCMP said Wiley no longer had his notes from that time.
Wiley is also connected to a 2017 murder case that is under federal review.
Susie Butlin, from Bayhead, N.S., had complained to the RCMP about being sexually assaulted and harassed by Ernest Ross Duggan before he killed her in September 2017. In August of that year, Wiley received Butlin's complaints of harassment and was assigned as lead investigator.
According to the internal police report, Wiley "determined there was no basis for charges" and advised her to block Duggan on Facebook.
The investigation into Butlin's death is now under a federal civilian review examining the RCMP's response to her complaints and the adequacy of its handling of sexual assault investigations.
Wiley is scheduled to answer questions from the commission on Tuesday afternoon.
The commission has previously allowed accommodations for RCMP witnesses. In May it allowed two senior Mounties to answer questions in recorded sessions instead of testifying before lawyers and participants.
This report by The Canadian Press was first published Sept. 3, 2022.
This story was produced with the financial assistance of the Meta and Canadian Press News Fellowship.
RCMP
Const. Aaron Patton, one of the first officers on the scene in
Portapique, N.S., fields a question at the Mass Casualty Commission
inquiry into the mass murders in rural Nova Scotia on April 18-19, 2020,
in Halifax on Monday, March 28, 2022. (Andrew Vaughan/Canadian Press) 
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