Friday 19 April 2024

Environment Minister Gary Crossman quits cabinet and as MLA

 

Environment Minister Gary Crossman quits cabinet and as MLA

Hampton PC says his beliefs ‘no longer align’ with direction of party, Higgs government

Environment Minister Gary Crossman is resigning as a Progressive Conservative cabinet minister and will quit as an MLA within days, citing his differences with Premier Blaine Higgs.

Crossman, who had already announced he would not run in this year's election, made the announcement in a Facebook post. 

The three-term MLA for Hampton said he wanted to make his health a priority but also made it clear he's not happy with Higgs's leadership.

"My personal and political beliefs no longer align in many ways with the direction of our party and government," he said.

Crossman turned down an interview request from CBC News, but in a brief phone conversation suggested that he had been tempted to leave last fall.

"It was time," he said. "I stayed with it about six months longer than most would have."

He wouldn't elaborate, but last fall Crossman said he wasn't happy with how the nomination race to succeed him was unfolding in the new riding of Hampton-Fundy-St. Martins.

He had backed Hampton deputy mayor Jeremy Salgado to become the PC candidate, but Salgado dropped out citing what he called "the misalignment of my beliefs and values with the current structure of our party."

Instead, Christian conservative activist and broadcaster Faytene Grasseschi was acclaimed over the opposition of the local PC riding association.

Crossman told CBC News last December he wasn't sure he would vote for her.

He made his announcement just days after he spoke on his department's 2024-25 budget estimates in the legislature.

With his PC colleague and former cabinet minister Trevor Holder planning to give up his seat before the legislature returns in May, the PCs will be reduced to 26 seats in the legislature compared to 20 opposition MLAs.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR


Jacques Poitras

Provincial Affairs reporter

Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. He grew up in Moncton and covered Parliament in Ottawa for the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal. He has reported on every New Brunswick election since 1995 and won awards from the Radio Television Digital News Association, the National Newspaper Awards and Amnesty International. He is also the author of five non-fiction books about New Brunswick politics and history.

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Round TWO 
 
 
275 Comments
 
 
 
David Amos
Welcome back to the the circus 
 
 
Ed Franks
Reply to David Amos
Thanks I had to make some popcorn. 
 
 
David Amos   
Reply to Ed Franks
I stocked up on peanuts to share with the forgetful elephants in the room
 
 
 
 
David Amos
FYI I wish to point out that the news is in the very first line of this very brief article

"Environment Minister Gary Crossman is resigning as a Progressive Conservative cabinet minister and will quit as an MLA within days, citing his differences with Premier Blaine Higgs." 

 

 
David Wilson 
I would find it hard to sit in the same room as Premier Higgs.. 
 
 
David Amos   

Reply to David Wilson 
A lot of people remember what I said to Higgy after I had debated my federal political opponents in Hampton the same night in October of 2015 while Trudeau the Younger was in Sussex

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276

 
Gerry Roberts    
Reply to David Wilson 
I wonder if he cares  
 
 
 
 
BD Morgan 
Where does the direction Higgs is going, with the acclaimed candidate and other issues, differ from the federal party direction.  
 
 
David Wilson
Reply to BD Morgan  
The federal party direction is embarrassing for all Canadians.  
 
 
David Amos   

Reply to BD Morgan 
Why not ask the former PC MP considering a Liberal run to take on Faytene He appears to have support among Tories within the riding, including among its current riding executive 
 
 
 
 
David Amos
Deja Vu Anyone???

David Amos

The plot thickens

MR Cain

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

 
David Amos 
     
Reply to David Amos 
Kyle Woodman

Wheels are really falling off now Higgy. He's going to lead his party to a resounding defeat. I now lots of people like Gary Crossman, lifelong PC party loyalists. That aren't having any of it any more.

David Amos

Reply to Kyle Woodman

Which Woodman are you???


David Amos   
Reply to David Amos
David Amos

Methinks if Salgado opts to run as an Independent with Crossman acting as his campaign manager he could win bigtime N'esy Pas?

Kyle Woodman

Reply to David Amos

I'm wondering if we will see a slate of independent candidates from the old PC party.

 
David Amos   
Reply to David Amos 
Meatloaf claimed that 2 out of 3 ain't bad 
 
 
 
 
 
Wilbur Ross
 
 
Samual Johnston 
Reply to Wilbur Ross
Putting down those states with little to no knowledge of them other than the stereotypical views. Becoming what one criticizes and not even realizing it. typical.   
 
 
Joe Zilch    
Reply to Wilbur Ross 
Alabama is a more prosperous place than Canada. So not a bad idea.
 
 
David Amos   
Reply to Samual Johnston  
Imagine you and I agreeing on something?
 
 
David Amos   
Reply to Wilbur Ross 
No doubt an old Yankee who shares your name would disagree with you. However he was the one working for Trump who did us in with softwood tariffs because GNB supports Higgy's Irving buddies Correct?  

 
Wilbur Ross  
Reply to Joe Zilch  
You need look up Alabama🤡 
 
 
Wilbur Ross  
Reply to Joe Zilch   
 "prosperous" Bahahahahahahahahaha
 
 
David Amos   
Reply to Wilbur Ross  
There is no way that you are using your real name 
 
 
Wilbur Ross  
Reply to Joe Zilch   
Lay off the solvents.
 
 
Wilbur Ross  
Reply to David Amos  
What? 
 
 
BD Morgan 
Reply to Joe Zilch 
60% higher infant mortalities
 
 
Wilbur Ross  
Reply to Samual Johnston
You sound like Lindsay Graham 😂😂😂  
 
 
BD Morgan 
Reply to Wilbur Ross 
Mosc.. Marj...
 
 
BD Morgan 
Reply to Samual Johnston
They never said anything about Alabama other than that's what Higgs is heading for. Where was the put down? 
 
 
Wilbur Ross  
Reply to BD Morgan
Hilarious. and true.  
 
 
BD Morgan 
Reply to Samual Johnston
Alabama life expectancy 10 years less than Canada.
 
 
Wilbur Ross  
Reply to BD Morgan
Smokes and booze are way cheaper though 😃  
 
 
Denis Van Humbeck 
Reply to BD Morgan
Its much warmer in Alabama than Canada. That is why the life expectancy is shorter.
 
 
BD Morgan 
Reply to Denis Van Humbeck 
I wonder why I didn't know that? ; o )

 
Gerry Roberts 
Reply to BD Morgan
"Higgs will turn New Brunswick into a Canadian Alabama if he get another term."

" Kris Austin (our Jim Jordan) and Faytene Grasseschi (British Columbia's answer to MTG) can't wait to reshape our Province into a little West Virginia or mini Mississippi."

Those are terms of endearment ?

 
BD Morgan 
Reply to Gerry Roberts  
For the right, yes.
 
 
Gerry Roberts 
Reply to BD Morgan  
What they aren't, is accurate . Just more wishful thinking
 
 
BD Morgan 
Reply to Gerry Roberts  
What part was inaccurate? Check out Grasseschi.
 
 
BD Morgan 
Reply to Gerry Roberts  
What was said criticizing Alabama, West Virginia or Mississppi?
 
 
Gerry Roberts 
Reply to BD Morgan  
You have zero proof that those are the desires of the politicians you mentioned. Check out " Spoeculation"
 
 
BD Morgan 
Reply to Gerry Roberts  
As I said check out Grasseschi, she is fairly clear what she wants to reverse in Canada.
 
 
Gerry Roberts 
Reply to BD Morgan 
You must think that Ross was thinking those transformations would be positive. that's funny, bd  
 
 
Gerry Roberts 
Reply to BD Morgan  
I said check out speculation. That's what "fairly clear " indicates. She isn't crystal clear ?
 
 
BD Morgan 
Reply to Gerry Roberts 
You read what she has published. She is crystal clear. 
 
 
Gerry Roberts 
Reply to BD Morgan 
You said "fairly clear", try harder  
 
 
BD Morgan 
Reply to Gerry Roberts  
What criticism was made? The reply said those states were baselessly criticized.
 
 
Gerry Roberts 
Reply to BD Morgan  
when has Faytene Grasseschi indicated that she wants to change BC into either of those states ?  
 
 
BD Morgan 
Reply to Gerry Roberts 
In her book. I can't repeat what she said here. 
 
 
BD Morgan 
Reply to Gerry Roberts 
Do you agree with her?
 
 
Gerry Roberts 
Reply to BD Morgan  
None bd, Ross meant that those imagined changes would be good things, he wasn't being critical at all........................sigh  
 
 
Gerry Roberts 
Reply to BD Morgan
"in her book" but................you have nothing
 
 
Gerry Roberts 
Reply to BD Morgan
Do you agree that her changing BC into one of those two states would be a good thing ?
 
 
Gerry Roberts 
Reply to BD Morgan 
"Kris Austin (our Jim Jordan) and Faytene Grasseschi (British Columbia's answer to MTG)" those all all positive values according to Ross......................................sigh
 
 
BD Morgan 
Reply to Gerry Roberts
"Putting down those states with little to no knowledge of them other than the stereotypical views. Becoming what one criticizes and not even realizing it. typical."

I replied to this. Where was the put down or criticism?

 
BD Morgan 
Reply to Gerry Roberts
No, that is why I disagree with her views on marriage and choice.

But the Op never criticized those states they simply pointed the direction things were heading. The reply said he criticized those states.

 
Gerry Roberts 
Reply to BD Morgan
"Kris Austin (our Jim Jordan) and Faytene Grasseschi (British Columbia's answer to MTG)"

Yes, ROSS just meant to "point that out" ! too funny

 
BD Morgan 
Reply to Gerry Roberts  
The reply said Ross had no knowledge of those states. I simply wondered what the replier saw as criticism from Ross. 
 
 
BD Morgan 
Reply to Gerry Roberts  
it is telling that the federal right voted the same as MTG on aid to the country invaded. 
 
 
BD Morgan 
Reply to Gerry Roberts  
But back the FG and marriage and choice. Are you OK with her views? A few minutes lays out what She opposes.
 
 
Al Clark
Reply to Joe Zilch
Bus goes to Bangor.... 
 
 
 
 
Joe Zilch
Crossman is coming across as an angry little man. Everyone already knew he wasn't running again. 
 
 
David Amos   
Reply to Joe Zilch
True 


John Lee
Reply to Joe Zilch 
You really seem to like Premier Higgs. Why is that?
 
 
John Murray 
Reply to John Lee
Far right wingers, especially Albertans, stick together. 
 
 
David Amos
  
Reply to John Murray 
Just like JT and the NDP 
 
 
 
 
 
Matt Steele   
An old rehashed news story . It was reported quite some time ago that Crossman was not running again , and was upset that his buddy wasn't going to be awarded the PC nomination for the local riding , and would have to run in the nomination process against others . Hats off to Premier Higgs for upholding democratic principles in wanting a fair and open nomination process . It would be nice if other political parties would do the same as it is refreshing to see some democracy being restored into our political system where people actually have to compete for nominations , and not just be awarded which seems so common these days . 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Matt Steele  
Spin much?  
 
 
Vince Comeau 
Reply to Matt Steele
Yup e we’ll see come election time how well she does, bet ya she loses  
 
 
David Amos
  
Reply to Matt Steele  
"FREDERICTON — A former two−term Progressive Conservative member of Parliament is seeking the New Brunswick Liberal party nomination to take on a Christian television host who he says is pushing the province’s Tories to the fringes of right−wing politics.

John Herron said he was urged to seek the Liberal ticket for Hampton−Fundy−St. Martins by a "broad and unlikely" coalition, including the "biggest chunk" of New Brunswick Progressive Conservative riding associations."

 
Al Clark
Reply to David Amos  
duh! It's his job. 
 
 
 
 
Joe Zilch 
Crossman is just mad that his guy wasn't getting the nomination. 
 
 
John Lee
Reply to Joe Zilch 
"His guy" also seemed to be the "local riding association's guy"
 
.
Joe Zilch
Reply to John Lee   
Because Crossman was pushing him through. 
 
 
Walter Vrbetic 
Reply to John Lee  
Yep... "Grasseschi was acclaimed over the opposition of the local PC riding association."


David Amos   
Reply to Walter Vrbetic 
Bingo 
 
 
 
 
Wilbur Ross  
Higgs is not a Progressive Conservative. He is the very worst kind of GOP Republican. He is more like a Ted Cruz or a Mike Johnson rather than a Richard Hatfield or a Brian Mulroney. No one sensible wants to work with him or for him. 
 
 
Eugene Peabody 
Reply to Wilbur Ross  
And he attracts the people who believe it is their duty to impose christian ideas on everyone. I remember the outrages comments that they floated when same sex marriage was made legal.  
 
 
David Amos   
Reply to Wilbur Ross
"Richard Hatfield or a Brian Mulroney"

You have interesting heroes 

 

 

Walter Vrbetic
"Instead, Christian conservative activist and broadcaster Faytene Grasseschi was acclaimed over the opposition of the local PC riding association."

Worth repeating... and something to think about.

 
Gerry Roberts 
Reply to Walter Vrbetic
What images enter your mind when you think about it ? 
 
 
Joe Zilch 
Reply to Walter Vrbetic
Canadian values?  
 
 
Walter Vrbetic
Reply to Gerry Roberts   
Parachutes...  
 
 
Joe Zilch 
Reply to Walter Vrbetic
Work ethic?   
 
 
Joe Zilch 
Reply to Walter Vrbetic
Prosperity?
 
 
Joe Zilch 
Reply to Walter Vrbetic
Stability? 
 
 
Joe Zilch 
Reply to Walter Vrbetic
Law abiding? 
 

Walter Vrbetic
Reply to Joe Zilch   
Dogma... 
 
 
Joe Zilch 
Reply to Walter Vrbetic
Canada? 
 
 
Joe Zilch 
Reply to Walter Vrbetic
Loving families? 
 
 
David Amos   

Reply to Gerry Roberts
I see Clowns
 
 
David Amos   
Reply to Walter Vrbetic 
Perhaps you should think about it after you do some research
 
 
Al Clark
Reply to Joe Zilch
"old stock" 
 
 
Al Clark
Reply to Joe Zilch
Hire tfws to do your work.... 
 
 
Al Clark
Reply to Joe Zilch
tilting at a new windmill every day?
 
 
Al Clark
Reply to Joe Zilch  
like trump? 
 
 
 
 
Denis Van Humbeck    
No use having a enviromen minister in any province seeing the federal environment minister keeps over stepping its boundries. 
 
 
John Lee  
Reply to Denis Van Humbeck  
They certainly do. But there are lots of areas for the provincial environment ministers to oversee that the feds don't usually get involved with. 
 
 
Vince Comeau
Reply to Denis Van Humbeck  
More like Higgs over ruling his minister to please his boss IRVING 
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to Vince Comeau
True
 
 
 
 
Denis Van Humbeck   
Ottawa to force banks to use carbon rebate label for direct deposits. Force banks now. Good grief. 
 
 
Dennis Woodman  
Reply to Denis Van Humbeck  
Yes a sign of real desperation if I’ve ever seen it. 
 
 
Margie Anderson 
Reply to Denis Van Humbeck  
This might help all those who claim that they have never received one understand what it is and that they indeed did get the rebate. 
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to Margie Anderson  
I never received one 
 
 
 
Matt Steele   
Old news as it was already reported quite some time ago that Crossman was not running again , and was upset that his buddy wasn't going to be awarded the PC nomination for the riding , and would have to run in the nomination process against others . Hats off to Premier Higgs for upholding democratic principles in wanting a fair and open nomination process . It would be nice if other political parties would do the same .
 
 
John Lee  
Reply to Matt Steele
"Christian conservative activist and broadcaster Faytene Grasseschi was acclaimed over the opposition of the local PC riding association."

Doesn't seem very democratic.

 
Matt Steele 
Reply to John Lee  
She was acclaimed when no one else ran against her ; but the option for others to run against her was open to everyone .
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to Matt Steele  
How many times will you repeat this? 
 
 
Al Clark
Reply to Matt Steele
1; copy

2; paste

3; repeat

 
 
 
Daniel Henwell  
Didn't get his way and still sour his buddy can't replace him. Too bad. Faytene will do an excellent job. 
 
 
 
 
Lorelei Stott  
sweep sweep sweep time for new ideas and solid family values  
 
 
Ralph Skavinsky 
Reply to Lorelei Stott  
Absolutely ..Amen! 
 
 
John Lee 
Reply to Lorelei Stott   
Crossman was the environment minister. What family values do you think will now be entering the party when the leadership at the top is unchanged? 
 
 
David Amos   
Reply to Lorelei Stott  
Its way past High Time  
 
 
 
William Peters 
The COR is going to be running on fumes come October.  
 
 
David Amos   
Reply to William Peters 
They always were  


Al Clark
Reply to William Peters  
yet again it seems. But try try again. Never surrender in their quest to rid us of the ....  
 
 
 
Marcel Belanger 
Can’t say I blame him for the parting shot. The way Higgs and the party head office in fredericton stomped all over the riding association is despicable at best. 



David Wilson 
Higgs is better suited for the deep south than Canada. 
 
 
Samual Johnston 
Reply to David Wilson  
‘Deep South’ eh? Why try to insult them? He was elected with a majority government here in this place. Seems like he is suited to NB. 
 
 
 
 
Daniel McIntyre 
I've had both "good" and "bad" employers over the years, however I have never felt the need to "dish dirt" on any former employer. Never understood the purpose, no one benefits. Having interviewed many job applicants it always surprised me how many chose to "gripe" during the interview. Never hired one of them.  
 
 
MR Cain
Reply to Daniel McIntyre  
This is politics, and all the dirt you can think of is fair game. The others who have resigned also have the same concern; this is not the party that it was. 
 
 
Dave Sellers
Reply to MR Cain
" all the dirt you can think of'

Except for our current PM, eh?


Ralph Skavinsky  
Reply to MR Cain
I disagree MR...politics should be done in a gentlemanly way.. issues not dumping dirt. 
 

MR Cain
Reply to Dave Sellers
They all have lots of dirt to go around. It's politics. 
 
 
Robert Tangence 
Reply to MR Cain
David Wilson
Reply to Robert Tangence 
It is now regressive conservatism 
 
 
Dave Sellers
Reply to Robert Tangence
Financial responsibility died in 2015.  
 
David Wilson 
Reply to Dave Sellers
Canadas debt to GDP ratio is bouncing back very well. Thank you.  
 
 
Dave Sellers
Reply to David Wilson
Yes.. another $50 billion added on to the existing debt of $1.4 trillion is encouraging, eh?
 
 
David Wilson 
Reply to Dave Sellers
As long as drbt to GDP recovers it is irrelevant
 
 
David Wilson 
Reply to Dave Sellers
Sorry. Debt
 
 
David Wilson 
Reply to Dave Sellers
You clearly do not understand how any of this works. 
 
 
David Wilson 
Reply to Dave Sellers
Just parroting PP.

 
David Wilson 
Reply to Dave Sellers 
Canada is extremely close to getting their AAA credit rating back.

AKA- no financial troubles.

 
Ralph Skavinsky  
Reply to Daniel McIntyre  
Isoooo agree..been in a similar situation in my business life...
 
 
Bob Enrob  
Reply to David Wilson  
I guess if you enjoy federally spending more on debt servicing then health care transfers then its great
 
 
Dave Sellers
Reply to David Wilson
No.. paying $120 million a day to service our national debt is the opposite of no financial troubles.
 
 
David Wilson 
Reply to Bob Enrob  
Governments function on debt.  
 
 
MR Cain
Reply to Ralph Skavinsky
I would prefer the same, but this is the new norm. Call it "freedom"
 
 
Bob Enrob  
Reply to David Wilson  
poorly run governments 
 
 
Dave Sellers
Reply to David Wilson
Function and this government don't fit the bill
 
 
Dave Sellers
Reply to MR Cain 
Freedom EA? 
 
 
Joe Zilch
Reply to David Wilson  
Wow. So Canada's current government must be the best performer of all time!  
 
 
David Wilson 
Reply to Dave Sellers 
Do you actually believe the Conservatives will not operate status quo? Harper set 2 record deficits in a row, without a pandrmic.
 
 
MR Cain
Reply to Dave Sellers
Eh? 
 
 
Joe Zilch
Reply to David Wilson  
Canada has so much debt is would choke a horse and a herd hungry hippos!
 
 
David Wilson 
Reply to Joe Zilch
They are doing their best to take care of Canadians in very tough global times and improve our society at the same time.
 
 
David Wilson 
Reply to Joe Zilch
Imagine all of the same things happening with huge cutbacks in programs and services to those who need them most. That will be your next government.
 
 
Don Corey 
Reply to MR Cain 
It works both ways. The good old boys running the Liberal party will all confirm that it sure isn't the same party as it was prior to 2015.....and they're sure not at all pleased about that. 
 
 
Joe Zilch
Reply to David Wilson  
Cut it all back to the way it was in 2015. Canada's Glory Days.  
 
 
Don Corey 
Reply to Dave Sellers
Sure not allowed here.
 
 
Bob Enrob  
Reply to David Wilson  
Doing there best.. thats even worse 
 
 
William Peters 
Reply to Daniel McIntyre 
Loyal wage slaves have always existed. One of the great joys of life is to tell someone who is taking the economic surplus your labor produces where to go when you finally break free. We tolerate employers because digging out of the wealth disparity we are born in forces us to humiliate ourselves of starve as proud individuals. The point is to not be that kind of person. Don't aspire to take from a worker. It's not that far in philosophical terms to being a slave owner.  
 
 
Joe Zilch

Reply to David Wilson
 
 
David Wilson 
Reply to Joe Zilch 
He does not need a script. All of history points to a much worse future for low to average income Canadians under CON federal leadership.  
 
 
Joe Zilch

Reply to David Wilson
 
 
Don Corey 
Reply to David Wilson
No, it's still progressive, but with the definition of progressive prior to 2015. The federal Liberals, because of one individual, have given the word a new meaning (and the whole thing is backfiring). 
 
 
David Wilson 
Reply to Joe Zilch 
I know who they work for.  
 
 
Don Corey 
Reply to David Wilson
Since when? Our GDP growth per capita has been stagnant since 2015. In contrast, the US growth is 8 times higher than us. Perhaps you should do some homework before thanking anyone. 
 
 
David Wilson 
Reply to Don Corey
Already did thanks.

We should be sitting around 65 percent in a few years.


Ralph Skavinsky  
Reply to MR Cain 
Then take a stand for righteous.. we can one at a time..truth is good! Start by speaking kindly....
 
 
Don Corey 
Reply to David Wilson
But it's not recovering. It's getting worse. And it's about time that you stopped blaming it on the pandemic (which really lasted less than 2 years).
 
 
David Wilson 
Reply to Don Corey
I will give you that regressive and progressive far right are similar.
 
 
Don Corey 
Reply to David Wilson 
I can support my comment with real facts. Can you?
 
 
David Wilson 
Reply to Don Corey
It is steadily improving.
 
 
MR Cain
Reply to Ralph Skavinsky 
Cry me a river.
  
 
Don Corey 
Reply to David Wilson  
You can keep it; you'll no doubt need it for someone who might actually swallow it. 
 
 
Don Corey 
Reply to David Wilson 
No, it most definitely is not.
 
 
Don Corey 
Reply to Ralph Skavinsky
Good luck on that one
 
 
Don Corey 
Reply to David Wilson 
All the facts clearly demonstrate what the liberals have done to the working middle class since 2015, and it's not at all pleasant.
 
 
David Wilson 
Reply to Don Corey
My apologies I messed up

The debt to GPP ratio is forcasted to be around 35 percent by 2030.

As published on the CBC yesterday

 
Dennis Woodman  
Reply to David Wilson
Improve society by spending more services on our debt, than on healthcare ?
 
 
David Wilson 
Reply to Dennis Woodman 
Call me mad, but did PP not just announce yesterday that he will likely be cutting new healthcare initiatives? 
 
 
Dennis Woodman  
Reply to David Wilson 
I don’t know, got a link ?
 
 
Gerry Roberts  
Reply to David Wilson
No, he didn't announce that 
 
 
David Wilson 
Reply to Dennis Woodman   
 
 
David Wilson 
Reply to Gerry Roberts  
Just posted the link.
 
 
Dennis Woodman  
Reply to David Wilson
Where ? 
 
 
David Wilson 
Reply to Dennis Woodman 
Search

Poilievre won't commit to keeping new social programs like pharmacare

 
Dennis Woodman  
Reply to David Wilson 
How can you keep something we don’t even have ? It’s a PLAN that we can’t afford
 
 
David Wilson 
Reply to Dennis Woodman 
It is being out together as we speak.
 
 
David Wilson 
Reply to Dennis Woodman 
put
 
 
Dennis Woodman  
Reply to David Wilson
Is there a plan to fund it too, or just normal add to the debt Lib policy ? 
 
 
David Wilson 
Reply to Dennis Woodman 
Alteady in the budget.
 
 
Dennis Woodman  
Reply to David Wilson
So that’s part of the 40 billion deficit this year ?

 
Don Corey 
Reply to David Wilson
Our GDP per capita growth will only continue to fall further behind all the other G-7 countries as long as the current government remains in power. The good news is that it will all come to an end in the fall of next year (and it will be a big fall)
 
 
David Wilson 
Reply to Dennis Woodman 
Improving society costs money. 
 
 
Don Corey 
Reply to David Wilson
The obvious question actually is "do you really understand"?
 
 
Dennis Woodman  
Reply to David Wilson
Not if you can’t pay for it. That’s why we now spend more on interest on our debt than on healthcare. 
 
 
David Wilson 
Reply to Don Corey
Thr only people salivating are the already wealthy. The rest will fo far worse under the new government.
 
 
David Wilson 
Reply to Don Corey
I jave no worries l.I owm my city and lake house outright. As I said Im a lifelong federal conservative voter. I know who they work for.
 
 
David Wilson 
Reply to Don Corey
I also know who they do not work for regardless of what they say.
 
 
Gerry Roberts  
Reply to David Wilson
no where in the link does it say that or quote Poilievre saying that ............"that he will likely be cutting new healthcare initiatives" he never said that

 
David Wilson 
Reply to Gerry Roberts  
You'll see.
 
 
David Wilson 
Reply to Gerry Roberts  
He voted against all of them.
 
 
Gerry Roberts  
Reply to David Wilson
I'll see ?? What will I see? this announcement you imagined ?
 
 
Gerry Roberts  
Reply to David Wilson
when did he say, ""that he will likely be cutting new healthcare initiatives"? ...he never said that.

 
David Wilson 
Reply to Gerry Roberts  
Ask yourself, who votes against fixing childrens teeth or feeding them in school or life-saving medications for diabetics who can not afford them?
 
 
David Wilson 
Reply to Gerry Roberts  
The ssme guy who claims to be rhe workers friend who has fought against the labour movemrnt his whole career.
 
 
Don Corey 
Reply to David Wilson
Here's a fact; "From 2020 to 2030, Canada is projected to have the slowest rate of per capita GDP growth among the 38 developed countries in the OECD."

Simply put, our economy is stalling relative to past performance and other comparable countries around the world.

It's surely not hard for anyone to figure out why.

 
Gerry Roberts  
Reply to David Wilson
Yes that's very interesting but still, he never said that he would "likely be cutting new healthcare initiatives"
 
 
David Wilson 
Reply to Don Corey
Whats wrong dd not like the governments projection. 
 
 
David Wilson 
Reply to Gerry Roberts  
Then what is he truthful about? 
 
 
David Wilson 
Reply to Gerry Roberts  
Answer is nothing.  

 
Don Corey 
Reply to David Wilson 
You're obviously referring to JT.
 
 
David Wilson 
Reply to Gerry Roberts  
Stop listening to him and look at history
 
 
Gerry Roberts  
Reply to David Wilson
What ? you are sticking to this imaginary announcement you think you read and pondering someone else's truthfulness? 
 
 
David Wilson 
Reply to Gerry Roberts  
Again. I know who conservatives work for as does all of our history. Thats why I used to vote for them.
 
 
Gerry Roberts  
Reply to David Wilson
That's nothing but punditry. He voted against the way they were being implemented, not any benefit they have 
 
 
Gerry Roberts  
Reply to David Wilson
That's your answer based on who-knows-what !
 
 
David Wilson 
Reply to Gerry Roberts  
I know. I was a conservative. 
 
 
Dave Sellers
Reply to David Wilson
Harper has a Master's in Economics.

You?

Dave Sellers
Reply to David Wilson
No PM in Canada,:s history has had a $1.4 trillion debt.
 
 
David Amos   
Reply to Dave Sellers 
Is he ethical
 
 
David Amos   
Reply Don Corey 
I wonder if anyone bothered to read all the comments about Higgy et al today
 
 
David Wilson
Reply Dave Sellers 
Tuns out a Pandemic, war in Ukraine and reshaping society for the better comes with price tags.
 
 
 

Bill Watson
Why would he make an announcement on Facebook. I've never used it. 
 
 
MR Cain 
Reply to Bill Watson
I suppose he should have asked first, huh? 
 
 
Stuart Udovitch 
Reply to Bill Watson 
Didn't have your phone number, I guess... 
 
 
David Amos   
Reply to Bill Watson
Obviously CBC read it for you and reported it Correct? 
 
 
Al Clark
Reply to Bill Watson
Should have cc'ed truth social? 
 
 
 
 
Kenneth Dwight 
"Run away!! Run away!!"

King Arthur

Monty Python's search for the Holy Grail

 
David Amos   
Reply to Kenneth Dwight  
Did they find it? 
 
 
 
 
William Morton  
This is not about being Liberal or Progressive Conservative. Higgs is a Populist and as such he has no values or coherent policy other than staying in power. Higgs is the problem. The PC's need to take action. 
 
 
David Amos   
Reply to William Morton 
They are up to something 
 
 
Samual Johnston
Reply to William Morton If that were the case he would not focus on reducing our debt - he would spend spend spend like the feds and just buy his reelection. Give that a thought. 
 
 
 
 
John Charlton 
Stand up for what you believe to be right, and hold to that and come back to fight another day. 
 
 
David Amos   
Reply to John Charlton  
Amen 


John Lee
Reply to John Charlton 
Or you could go into politics. 
 
 
 
Robert Tangence 


David Amos
Reply to Robert Tangence 
Won't that be special?  


Samual Johnston  
Reply to Robert Tangence
Well if you count this twice I suppose. Nothing new here 
 
 
 
 
Ralph Steinberg 
Higgs not only duped the voters, but those in his own party who have resigned. How many is that now?

Perhaps the last straw for the environment minister was giving back those tax dollars to the oil and gas corporation?

 
David Webb 
Reply to Ralph Steinberg   
This is just Jacques re-issuing an old story. Cossman already announced he wasn't running again. You do know that any party can have a leadership review and toss the leader out.
 
 
Dan Lee 
Reply to Ralph Steinberg 
i would say your in the money.......   
 
 
David Amos
Reply to David Webb
There more to this story and you know it as well as I 
 
 
 
 
Joe Zilch 
Get rid of the dead wood. Good move.
 
 
 
Doug kirby  
NB needs a new leader as in yesterday this is getting to be a bit much...it's quite clear the premier should never have put his name on a ballot box
 
 
David Webb 
Reply to Doug kirby   
Considering what two previous one term liberal governments gave us and realising they have yet to change their unsustainable spending/debt issues, I think I will stick with responsible spending. Now if we can finally get to more makers than takers in the province, life will get more rosy down the road at least for the makers.
 
 
David Amos

Reply to David Webb 
It would not be wise to bet the farm on your opinion  
 
 
 
 
William Murdoch
Out with the old "those with enough time in to qualify for the pension" and in with the new. 




BRIAN SAUNDERS  
Call the election or force one with the departing govt. MLAs resigning now as well. Let’s end this farce now and move on to the future. 
 
 
Christine Martinez
Reply to BRIAN SAUNDERS  
The problem is, all of the alternatives are just as problematic or more so, albeit in different ways. 
 
 
William Murdoch

Reply to Christine Martinez
 
 
MR Cain 
Reply to Christine Martinez 
If we rid ourselves of the biggest problem, we can at least get a break from the insanity. It will take a couple years to figure out where all the money went. 
 
 
SarahRose Werner
Reply to BRIAN SAUNDERS  
Is there actually way to force an election under the existing rules? For example, is there anything coming up between now and October that might be considered a confidence vote? 


SW Home 
Reply to William Murdoch
based on the current political climate in NB I would say Yes, he does. 
 
 
 
 
John Earle   
In New Brunswick, as in the rest of the country, the confusing term Progressive Conservative has little meaning left. The national party is now avowedly conservative, both fiscally, and increasingly socially as well. That's why the shotgun wedding of PC and Reform saw the progressive wing, and the name of the party, disappear. This country is polarized enough. I understand the Liberals are toast federally in the next election. I hope the course correction of the country isn't too severe. Otherwise, the tribalism and urban vs rural divide we have witnessed in America will continue to worsen up here.  
 
 
William Murdoch
Reply to John Earle  
A "wedding" more than twenty years ago still has your attention?
 
 
SarahRose Werner
Reply to John Earle  
The only way to avoid polarization is to have a strong centre which includes people who are both fiscally conservative (or least a bit cautious) and socially progressive. Without this centre, you end up with two sides with little in common and no real way to talk to each other constructively.
 
 
Joe Zilch 
Reply to John Earle
I suppose from a liberal far leftist viewpoint everything looks to far to the right.

Centrists are the majority and will push the liberal far leftists to the curb.

 
Al Clark 
Reply to John Earle  
"understand" ?? I understand many more than me won't vote for the no policy hoppin mad guy who's never had a job in his life. They have a year and a half to replace him, but will they????????? 
 
 
Dave Sellers 
Reply to Al Clark  
So being a democratically elected MP isn't a job?
 
 
David Amos   
Reply to Al Clark
Look who is tilting windmills tonight
 
 
Al Clark
Reply to David Amos 
tilting AT windmills???? Or cow tilting (tipping) 
 
 
 
 
Marcel Belanger
I wonder if he’s just the first of all those who’ve said they won’t run again.
 
 
David Amos   
Reply to Marcel Belanger
Perhaps you should review some old news items 
 
 
 

SarahRose Werner
If Higgs loses the election this fall - and me personally, I wouldn't place money on the results either way - then the NB PC party will have one last chance to return to its Progressive Conservative roots when they choose their next leader. Otherwise, Progressive Conservatism is dead in New Brunswick.
 
 
David Amos   
Reply to SarahRose Werner  
FYI I have been saying for nearly a year that Allain will be the next Leader/Premier but you would already know that if you were not ignoring me Correct?
 
 
Ralph Skavinsky  
Reply to David Amos 
Hi David I too have been saying that BUT. Hold on because I think you'll see Danny run Federally in Moncton.it willbe goodbye yo Ms Petitpas Taylor 
 
 
MR Cain 
Reply to Ralph Skavinsky  
Taylor will be the next PM!  
 
 
David Amos   
Reply to Ralph Skavinsky  
Now thats Interesting
 
 
David Amos  
     
Reply to MR Cain   
Back away from the pipe 
 
 
Ralph Skavinsky
Reply to MR Cain  
Intersting thought...why do you think that, MR? 
 
 
Ralph Skavinsky
Reply to MR Cain 
Whoops..sorry..meant MR Cain 
 
 
David Amos   
Reply to Ralph Skavinsky 
It was just another one of his pipe dreams
 
 
 
 
Frank Wadden
Getting off that sinking ship! 
 
 
David Amos   
Reply to Frank Wadden 
Wouldn't you??? 
 
 
Ed Franks 
Reply to David Amos
I would. I have alot of respect for our finance minister Bill Morneau after he threw himself under the bus.  
 
 
David Amos   
  
Reply to Ed Franks 
I have no respect for him whatsoever


 
 
JOhn D Bond  
No surprise in this. Can't wait for Oct, ABH will be the game day mantra. 
 
 
David Amos   
Reply to JOhn D Bond 
I doubt you will have to wait that long 
 
 
 
 
Dacre Gushue
 I will wait for the usual suspects to show up... All the great minds.
 
 
David Amos   
Reply to Dacre Gushue 
They were here already
 
 
 
 
Dacre Gushue 
 
Lets have an election now so we can stop trying to sway the electorate with hit pieces. 
 
 
David Amos   
Reply to Dacre Gushue 
IMHO All the rhetoric coming from Higgy these days reaffirms that the writ will be dropped very soon and we will be voting during Apple Blossom Time 
 
 
Al Clark  
Reply to David Amos
Quixotic. Kinda describes outhouse's biggest client east of ottawa eh?  
 
 
David Amos   
Reply to Al Clark  
I know a man who lives in Lamancha 
 
 
Al Clark  
Reply to David Amos 
Just because you discovered his email address?
 
 
David Amos   
Reply to Al Clark  
I bet you don't know his cell phone number
 
 
 
 
Dacre Gushue 

The spin doctor is at it again. Everyone knows Gary was leaving.. Loyalty is dead in politics. Actions have consequences.. So much pandering to special interest groups. We will get what we deserve in the end for being so unintelligent.
 
 
Kyle Woodman
Reply to Dacre Gushue 
Hahaha. You really believe what you just wrote? 
 
 
Dan Lee
Reply to Dacre Gushue  
And to think you won the race.  
 
 
Le Wier
Reply to Dacre Gushue 
Who Outhouse?
 

David Amos   
Reply to Kyle Woodman
Should I call this Round Two??? 
 
 
David Amos   
Reply to Le Wier
Say Hey to him for me will ya? 
 
 
Le Wier
Reply to David Amos
I don’t know him 
 
 
David Amos   
Reply to Le Wier
Doesn't he send you emails like does to many others? 
 
 
Le Wier
Reply to David Amos
Oh yes he does, Higgs, and Williams. I sent an email years ago to my MLA who was PC, and then all of a sudden these emails from the PCs came. I asked to be removed from the list but they just keep coming. So now I read them and share what they say.  
 
 
David Amos   
Reply to Le Wier
I crossed paths with him years ago and called him as soon as I knew he was in the backrooms in NB He was surprised that I still had his cell phone number
 
 
 
Round ONE
 
 
Comments (When I refreshed the page I found myself on Round TWO)
 
 
44 Comments 
 
 
 
David Amos
The plot thickens


 
David Amos
IMHO All the rhetoric coming from Higgy these days reaffirms that the writ will be dropped very soon and we will be voting during Apple Blossom Time 
 
 
David Amos
Methinks if Salgado opts to run as an Independent with Crossman acting as his campaign manager he could win bigtime N'esy Pas? 
 

Kyle Woodman
Reply to David Amos
I'm wondering if we will see a slate of independent candidates from the old PC party.
 
 
David Amos   
Reply to Kyle Woodman
Me Too



Buford Wilson  
He'll be missed.

My old friend Gary is one of the best environment ministers we ever had.

 
David Amos
Reply to Buford Wilson  
Oh my my I didn't know you were a local dude 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Buford Wilson 
I bet you two know this dude very well 
 
https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/1.1709750 
 
 
 
 
Don Corey
Interesting that the same article is here in duplicate. Yet another confirmation of a glitch in the system.
 
 
Don Corey
Reply to Don Corey 
Or is it deliberate? 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Don Corey
I'm back
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Don Corey
Its not deliberate. However CBC has been deliberately ignoring I exist since 2004 Now this ex PC dude is running again 
 
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/tory-turned-liberal-john-herron-loses-1.503884



 

Allan Marven

Hopefully jt gets the hint too.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Allan Marven

What Hint? 
 
 
 

danny rugg

Who is next? Step right up! What's keeping you there Sherry Wilson? And you too Greg Turner? Will MLA'S with canes be the new fashion trend?
 
 
David Amos

Reply to danny rugg  
You seem bitter 
 
 

Allan Marven

LOLOU  
 
 
 

Les Cooper

Let them all quit. Saving us $$
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Les Cooper
How so? 


 
 

valmond landry

we have always been run by one man so why the big fuss?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to valmond landry

Who is we?   
 
 
 

Gary Webber

I see the liberals winning a minority and Higgs resins, yay

 

 

danny rugg

Reply to Gary Webber

All 49 seats minority.

 

 

Allan Marven

Reply to Gary Webber

If he had any class he'd do like Mckenna and quit to avoid the humiliation.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Allan Marven
Franky Boy quit after he won the Hat Trick 
 
 
 
 

Jack Straw

The ship is sinking Blaine.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Jack Straw
Do ya think he cares?
 
 
 
 

Jay Miller

 Higgsy ….. it’s time you stepped aside, and let good, honest politicians run the PC Party of NB, or it will be a “Déjà Vu 1987” clean-up!

 

 

David Amos
Reply to Jay Miller
"good, honest politicians"

Thats an interesting expression

 

 
Greg Miller 
For those that wanted a new government -- it looks like you are going to get it -- whether the Conservatives get back in or not.  
 
 
David Amos   
Reply to Greg Miller 
I say Higgy will win another minority then quit as leader
 
 
 
 
Andrew Martin 
3 years... he got his pension.
 
 
David Amos   
Reply to Andrew Martin  
Mr Outhouse may earn a pension too It depends on the deal he made with Higgy




Kyle Woodman
Wheels are really falling off now Higgy. He's going to lead his party to a resounding defeat. I now lots of people like Gary Crossman, lifelong PC party loyalists. That aren't having any of it any more.
 
 
David Amos   
Reply to Kyle Woodman
Which Woodman are you???
 
 
 
MR Cain  
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!  
 
 
 
 
 
 

Ex-Tory MP seeking N.B. Liberal nod after 'very' conservative takeover of Higgs's party

FREDERICTON — A former two−term Progressive Conservative member of Parliament is seeking the New Brunswick Liberal party nomination to take on a Christian television host who he says is pushing the province’s Tories to the fringes of right−wing politics.

John Herron said he was urged to seek the Liberal ticket for Hampton−Fundy−St. Martins by a "broad and unlikely" coalition, including the "biggest chunk" of New Brunswick Progressive Conservative riding associations.

If nominated for the Liberal party, he would go up against Progressive Conservative candidate Faytene Grasseschi, whose Christian views he said have caused "considerable angst" among Tories.

Grasseschi, he said, reflects the "very" conservative takeover of the Progressive Conservative party of Premier Blaine Higgs.

"I think among my Tory friends in Hampton−Fundy−St. Martins, there is a concern that there has been an excessive shift to the right — to a party that’s far more conservative, that’s based more on ideology than ideas," Herron said.

"And it is quite conceivable that if the coalition of support that I think is building in Hampton−Fundy−St. Martins, around our candidacy, our coalition, that the conservative nominee may end up essentially being positioned as a mere fringe candidate."

Grasseschi, who did not agree to an interview, was acclaimed in December as the Tory candidate in the riding, galvanizing supporters by focusing her campaign on the Higgs government’s changes to province’s policy on gender identity in schools. That policy requires students under 16 to get parental consent before their teachers can use their preferred names and pronouns. LGBTQ advocates have called the policy discriminatory, while Higgs and his supporters say it protects the rights of parents.

The gender identity rule sparked a revolt in Higgs’s caucus and the resignation of several ministers, but the policy is what drew Grasseschi to run for the party. Grasseschi’s Christian television show airs on nine networks and she is the author of several books, including "Marked," in which she discusses that gay marriage could lead to humans marrying dogs. Several videos posted on YouTube show her using her faith to heal people, speaking in tongues and purportedly bringing a person back to life.

Despite Herron’s conservative past, he isn’t a stranger to the Liberals. He was elected twice in the New Brunswick riding of Fundy—Royal as a Progressive Conservative member of Parliament, in 1997 and 2000, but sat as an Independent in 2003 following the party’s merger with the Canadian Alliance to form the Conservative Party of Canada. He ran as a federal Liberal in the riding in 2004 and lost.

Herron, president of the New Brunswick Business Council, said he feels "compelled" to re−enter politics after two decades, adding that his campaign will focus on increasing growth, paying down debt, and reinvesting in businesses.

The next step for Herron is the nomination process, which he said would likely be in May.

And it’s not just former Tories who are concerned with the direction conservatism is taking in the province, and elsewhere on the continent. Dorothy Shephard, who resigned in June as social development minister in Higgs’s cabinet over the changes to Policy 713, said conservatism in North America is being "hijacked" and pushed toward the "far right."

"I’m worried about far−right politics, period. I think that those of us who care — and there are so many — really need to make sure that our voices don’t leave the party, and that we continue to own our party," she said in a recent interview.

Shephard suggested that it was a good thing that someone like Herron — with a Progressive Conservative pedigree — is seeking the nomination, even though he is running with the Liberals. "So never do I like to hear of losing someone to another colour, but at the same time I can respect the fact that someone could be trying to influence a path back to the centre."

Higgs last week dismissed the idea that the Progressive Conservative party was taking a rightward shift. The changes to the policy on gender identity in schools is about protecting the rights of parents, he said.

"I guess we maybe all have different interpretations of what ’to the right’ means," he said. "I mean, if having parents involved in raising their kids and making sure that’s an accepted practice, is to the right, and maybe we kind of have to evaluate society."

This report by The Canadian Press was first published March 25, 2024.

Hina Alam, The Canadian Press


 
 
NB Newsmaker Nov 29






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