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Methinks Minister Holland and the leader of the Green Party should not deny that I spoke with each of them before the writ was dropped and I ran Sussex against Northrup as the latest Circus began N'esy Pas?

 https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2018/12/no-clear-strategy-to-get-fracking.html

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No clear strategy to get fracking consent, says energy minister

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David Amos

Methinks Minister Holland and the leader of the Green Party should not deny that I spoke with each of them before the writ was dropped and I ran against Bruce Northrup and his cohorts in Sussex and the latest Circus began N'esy Pas?

 

David Amos

@David Amos Methinks Minister Holland must know why my friend Roger Richard ran against Kevin Arseneau the former SANB President and liberal candidate wannabe who is now the infamous French Lieutenant of the Green Party N'esy Pas?

  

David Amos

Methinks the French Lieutenant of the Green Party must read the media that promotes him N'esy Pas?

http://nbmediacoop.org/2015/03/20/awkward-questions-raised-at-investigation-of-rcmp-actions-at-rexton-shale-gas-camp-why-didnt-they-care-about-the-crime-scene/

Awkward questions raised at investigation of RCMP actions at Rexton shale gas camp: “Why didn’t they care about the crime scene?” (Part 1 of 3)
Written by Dallas McQuarrie on March 20, 2015

A St. Louis-de-Kent man is asking some very pointed questions about what really happened on October 17, 2013, when RCMP overran a shale gas protest camp at Rexton. During the raid, six police cars were burned. Using RCMP statements and pure imagination, some mainstream media outlets jumped to the dubious conclusion that protesters were responsible.

The day the RCMP attacked the Rexton protest camp, Roger Richard went to the site of the car burnings about 6:00 p.m. and took a long, close-up look at the vehicles. Richard’s inspection of the burned out cars led him to conclude the burnings were “staged” to discredit protesters.

“Those cars were stripped,” Richard says. “There were no burned computers, standard in RCMP cars, nor even the brackets that hold the computers in place.” He also looked in the trunk of a car and noted that there was no spare tire, tire rim, or jack.

Robert Brannen

@David Amos

The investigation by CRCC is ongoing. Patience!

David Amos

@Robert Brannen Methinks you had read my lawsuit then you may understand why my comment about that fact was blocked N'esy Pas?

https://www.crcc-ccetp.gc.ca/en/chair-initiated-complaint-and-public-interest-investigation-rcmp-response-shale-gas-fracking

Rosco holt

@David Amos
Government won't push those investigations, because it would show government sending undercover officers to discredit the protest.
Like they did at the large G8- G20 protests.

  

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David Amos

Methinks we are all entitled to read this report N'esy Pas?

https://www.crcc-ccetp.gc.ca/en/chair-initiated-complaint-and-public-interest-investigation-rcmp-response-shale-gas-fracking

Chair-Initiated Complaint and Public Interest Investigation into the RCMP response to the shale gas (fracking) protests in Kent County, New Brunswick, in 2013

The Civilian Review and Complaints Commission for the RCMP (the Commission) is currently conducting a public interest investigation into the RCMP response to the shale gas protests in Kent County, New Brunswick, in 2013.

Between the summer of 2013 and early 2014, the Commission received approximately 16 individual public complaints and one group public complaint consisting of a petition signed by 245 individuals. These public complaints made general and specific allegations about the RCMP response to protests and protesters. The most common allegation was of use of excessive force. Other allegations included: improper arrests and detention, interference with freedom of expression and peaceful protest, and interference with Aboriginal Peoples spiritual ceremonies.

On July 30, 2013, the Chair of the Commission, Mr. Ian McPhail, decided, pursuant to subsection 45.43(1) of the RCMP Act (in force until November 27, 2014), to conduct a Public Interest Investigation into the several complaints. This allows the Commission to conduct its own investigation of all of the complaints at one time.

Rosco holt

The municipality of Sussex supports fracking, while the fracking would be in the surrounding DSL who weren't asked.

Why is Sussex even asked, they have nothing at risk?

David Amos

@Rosco holt Methinks everybody know I ran in Sussex again this year. trust that although Higgs and Northrup were yapping about this fracking nonsense all summer in the Irving Media it was not an issue in Sussex during the election period. Most folks were concerned about the Irving Clan suing SNB. It was a small wonder that the Green Party made certain that I was not allowed to debate my political opponents in front of a packed room about that lawsuit N'esy Pas?

Fred Brewer

"New Brunswick's energy minister says he doesn't yet know how to make sure people in the Sussex area want shale gas fracking."

He must be waiting for guidance from the Empire.

David Amos

@Fred Brewer Mais Oui

Bernard McIntyre

I mean how unrealistic is this minister.Set up a meeting with the people of this region and ask them a simple question Do you want fracking in your area or not. That's how easy and realistic it could be.

Roy Kirk

@Bernard McIntyre Asking people to make a poorly informed decision is easy, but it will result in bad policy.

Bernard McIntyre

@Roy Kirk but that's up for the people of that region to decide. I still believe we are still supposed to be living in a d Democracy.

Roy Kirk

@Bernard McIntyre Democracy does not equal capriciousness. If you want everyone to have a say on such a matter, everyone has to have seen and weighed the same evidence, like a jury in a jury trial. Otherwise, you'll have too many people voting their prejudices.

Bernard McIntyre

@Roy Kirk Wow you must be a lawyer or want to be a politician using such big words. I believe a simple question would be efficent enough to get an idea if people of the region would want fracking or not.

Shawn McShane

@Roy Kirk There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know and the ones we don't want to know.

Bernard McIntyre

@Shawn McShane I didnt know that.

Roy Kirk

@Shawn McShane . . . and i don't know about that! ;-)

Roy Kirk

@Bernard McIntyre I'm neither, just an interest citizen that doesn't live in the Sussex area but none-the-less believes he should have a say in the matter.

Robert Brannen

@Shawn McShane

Is that you, Mr. Rumsfeld?

David Amos

@Robert Brannen Methinks you may enjoy page 30 of this old file of mine far more than Mr Rumsfeld did N'esy Pas?

https://www.scribd.com/document/2619437/CROSS-BORDER

Marc Martin

I guess B. Higgs boss PANB leader is putting stops to all fracking...

David Amos

@Marc Martin Dream on

 
Heather Steeves

this gas is for export only. Where is all the royality money from the existing wells? Where are all the jobs? Where did the fracking waste go? You do know that this gas is for export to us market and of no benefit to us. You do not have a social licence to frack. Mr. Holland you better figure out a way to talk to your constituents can't be that hard or has your boss to just lay low?

 

David Amos

@Heather Steeves Good luck getting answers

Rosco holt

@Heather Steeves
What royalties?

  

Mike Bookman

This guy was elected in an area that clearly does not want fracking. There are anti-fracking signs in peoples yards everywhere. Ought to be interesting how he will manage to convince people that Irving Corporation's elected representative Blane Higgs is the true God of the people.

Mark (Junkman) George

@Mike Bookman

I read, with great interest, last weekend's article about a "banana republic", looked around, and thought.

https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/longform/banana-republic

Whoever, in this Provence, elected these "blue clowns" turned NB into Canada's banana republic.

Oscar Acosta

@Mike Bookman Nothing says "preserving our outdoor heritage" like fracking!

Marguerite Deschamps

@Mark (Junkman) George, I had read it as you did and frankly, like you, I immediately thought of New Brunswick.

David Amos

@Marguerite Deschamps Methinks you not so clever SANB people should read the public record of the EUB Matter # 357 ASAP N'esy Pas?

Marguerite Deschamps

@David Amos, I am not a SANB person not of any other organization for that matter. I call them as I see them.

Colin Seeley

@Marguerite Deschamps

self appointed experts do similar things.

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Subject: Fwd Methinks Minister Holland and your buddy David Coon should quit 

yapping pay attention N'esy Pas Andre Faust and Chucky Leblanc?
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No clear strategy to get fracking consent, says energy minister

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Methinks Minister Holland and the leader of the Green Party should not
deny that I spoke with each of them before the writ was dropped and I
ran against Bruce Northrup and his cohorts in Sussex and the latest
Circus began N'esy Pas?

No clear strategy to get fracking consent, says energy minister

Needing consent from 1 area is in itself a 'fallacy,' says Green Party leader David Coon

Hadeel Ibrahim · CBC News · Posted: Dec 07, 2018 5:00 AM AT

Mike Holland was appointed minister of energy and resource development when a minority Progressive Conservative government won the confidence of the house three weeks ago. (Hadeel Ibrahim/CBC)

Listen to the full CBC New Brunswick Political Panel podcast by downloading from the CBC Podcast page or subscribing to the podcast in iTunes.

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New Brunswick's energy minister says he doesn't yet know how to make sure people in the Sussex area want shale gas fracking.

Mike Holland was appointed minister of energy and resource development when a minority Progressive Conservative government won the confidence of the house three weeks ago.

He's been tasked with making fracking happen after Premier Blaine Higgs said he will pursue it in communities that "have demonstrated their desire to proceed" with development.

But the question remains of how to measure that desire.

"The truth of the matter is within a 21-day period we've reached the point that we have to create a means or mechanism to [consult], but I don't have it," he told the CBC New Brunswick Political Panel.

"I think it's a little unrealistic to expect within a three-week period for somebody to have that mechanism in place for something that important."

Deep Trouble

Dec. 6: Energy minister and Green leader spar on future of fracking

00:00 35:54

Energy Minister Mike Holland says he doesn't yet know how to make sure people in the Sussex area want fracking to resume in the area. Green Party Leader David Coon said the idea of only needing consent from one area of the province is in itself a "fallacy." Holland and Coon joined the weekly political panel. 35:54

The topic for this week's panel was fracking — and only Green Party and the Progressive Conservatives were represented at the weekly panel.

Last week Higgs said a cabinet order to lift the moratorium in the Sussex area could be approved before the end of the year.

During his campaign for office, Higgs said his government would create exemptions to the Liberal fracking moratorium "in a regional way, in a very localized way."

Green Leader David Coon, right, and Green MLA Megan Mitton won't be changing their stance against fracking. (Pierre Fournier/CBC)

The areas where shale gas fracking is promising are near the town of Sussex and in Albert County. That includes Penobsquis, where Corridor Resources began extracting shale gas in 1999.

Holland said municipal governments in the Sussex area have shown support for fracking, but the actual area where fracking could take place is outside municipal limits.

Gordon Kierstead, chair of the local service district outside Sussex where fracking may take place, said this week his area has not been approached or consulted.

Holland said he has spoken to people in Albert County, which he represents, and they expressed interest in the possible economic growth coming from this private industry.

• Fracking and a carbon plan: You can't do both, says Green leader

• Protesters crash MLAs' tour of shale gas fields

 

'Pouring gasoline on a burning house'

Green Party MLA David Coon said the idea of only needing consent from one area of the province is in itself a "fallacy," because it's not possible to contain all impacts of fracking in one area.

"We all share the atmosphere," he told the political panel.

"Any health effects that might arise related to local development would obviously be a burden on the health system that we all pay for."

A burned-out car with a First Nations flag sits near the site of shale gas protests in New Brunswick in 2013. (Stephen Puddicombe/CBC)

He said for the province to consider investing in non-renewable and fossil fuel resources is a step backwards.

"We've got a climate crisis and we're talking about increasing the production of fossil fuels which will be burned outside the community, further contributing to the problem. It's like spraying gasoline on a burning house. What are we doing?" he said.

"It doesn't meet the straight-face test ... We've got to reduce our production of fossil fuels."

Holland said while he does believe the province should move in the direction of renewable energy soon, they can't turn away from private investments which could bring in millions of dollars.

CBC's Journalistic Standards and Practices

 https://www.crcc-ccetp.gc.ca/en/chair-initiated-complaint-and-public-interest-investigation-rcmp-response-shale-gas-fracking

Chair-Initiated Complaint and Public Interest Investigation into the RCMP response to the shale gas (fracking) protests in Kent County, New Brunswick, in 2013

The Civilian Review and Complaints Commission for the RCMP (the Commission) is currently conducting a public interest investigation into the RCMP response to the shale gas protests in Kent County, New Brunswick, in 2013.

Between the summer of 2013 and early 2014, the Commission received approximately 16 individual public complaints and one group public complaint consisting of a petition signed by 245 individuals.

These public complaints made general and specific allegations about the RCMP response to protests and protesters. The most common allegation was of use of excessive force. Other allegations included: improper arrests and detention, interference with freedom of expression and peaceful protest, and interference with Aboriginal Peoples spiritual ceremonies.

On July 30, 2013, the Chair of the Commission, Mr. Ian McPhail, decided, pursuant to subsection 45.43(1) of the RCMP Act (in force until November 27, 2014), to conduct a Public Interest Investigation into the several complaints. This allows the Commission to conduct its own investigation of all of the complaints at one time. 

In May and June 2014, after a formal request from the Commission, the RCMP disclosed a significant quantity of materials relevant to the Commission's investigation.

On December 17, 2014, the Chair of the Commission notified the Commissioner of the RCMP and the Minister of Public Safety that he had initiated his own complaint about the RCMP's response to the Kent County protests pursuant to subsection 45.59(1) of the RCMP Act (as amended by the Enhancing Royal Canadian Mounted Police Accountability Act, which came into force on November 28, 2014). The Chair further notified the Commissioner pursuant to subsection 45.66(1) of the amended RCMP Act that the Commission would be investigating the Chair-initiated complaint concurrently with the existing Public Interest Investigation initiated on July 30, 2013.

The December 17, 2014, Chair-initiated complaint will examine the conduct of those RCMP members who responded to, or managed the response to, the Kent County shale gas protests in 2013, including a policy and practice perspective.

The Commission's investigators are conducting interviews with complainants, witnesses and others who have come forward with information that may be relevant to the investigation. Commission investigators will also be interviewing RCMP members involved in the events identified in the complaints as well as those involved in the response or management to the response.

Individuals who were personally affected by the conduct of RCMP members who responded to protests in Kent County, New Brunswick, or who have information that may be of assistance to the Commission's investigation, are invited to call the Commission at 1-800-267-6637 and leave a detailed message or to send an email to reviews@crcc-ccetp.gc.ca.

Upon completion of the investigation, the Chair will issue a Chair-Initiated Complaint and Public Interest Investigation Report detailing his findings and any recommendations he deems appropriate.

 http://nbmediacoop.org/2015/03/20/awkward-questions-raised-at-investigation-of-rcmp-actions-at-rexton-shale-gas-camp-why-didnt-they-care-about-the-crime-scene/

Awkward questions raised at investigation of RCMP actions at Rexton shale gas camp: “Why didn’t they care about the crime scene?” (Part 1 of 3)

Written by Dallas McQuarrie on March 20, 2015

Blockade against shale gas on a highway in Rexton, NB in 2013. Photo from Nowhere Else To Go, a film by Michael Shade.

A St. Louis-de-Kent man is asking some very pointed questions about what really happened on October 17, 2013, when RCMP overran a shale gas protest camp at Rexton.  During the raid, six police cars were burned.  Using RCMP statements and pure imagination, some mainstream media outlets jumped to the dubious conclusion that protesters were responsible.

The day the RCMP attacked the Rexton protest camp, Roger Richard went to the site of the car burnings about 6:00 p.m. and took a long, close-up look at the vehicles.  Richard’s inspection of the burned out cars led him to conclude the burnings were “staged” to discredit protesters.

“Those cars were stripped,” Richard says.  “There were no burned computers, standard in RCMP cars, nor even the brackets that hold the computers in place.”  He also looked in the trunk of a car and noted that there was no spare tire, tire rim, or jack.

Richard, a dentist, who has practiced dentistry in St. Louis de Kent for 34 years, says computers, spare tires and other equipment are standard equipment in RCMP cars.  He says the absence of such standard equipment from the burned vehicles is only one indication that the burnings were staged.

Richard was also shocked that police took no special precautions with the crime scene.  “Within hours of the crime, I was able to walk right up to the cars while they were still smoldering,” he says.  “The area had not been sealed off with crime scene tape, and there were no police around at all.”

“I could have tampered with those vehicles, and some people obviously did,” Richard says.  He recalls being at a nearby coffee shop a few days later and seeing another customer showing people a piece of one of the burned cars he had taken as a souvenir.

“Why didn’t they care about the scene of the crime?”  Richard asks. “Why didn’t the police protect the crime scene from tampering?  Why didn’t they immediately bring in their own arson experts to gather evidence?”  He says that the RCMP’s willingness to let the evidence that might have been gathered be tampered with or removed by passers-by, or destroyed by the weather, is further evidence the burnings were staged.

For weeks after the car burnings, the remains of the cars sat unattended by the side of the road. During that time, rain and snowfall would have further obscured or ruined possible crime scene evidence.

Richard further noted that “parts of the engines were actually melted, and that indicates the fire burned at a very high temperature.”  He suspects that an ” accelerant” of a type not available for public purchase was used on the cars.  Accelerants are substance or mixtures used to rapidly accelerate the development of a fire, and are commonly associated with cases of arson.

Richard is a specialist who makes dental prostheses, and his training involved the melting of various metals to make alloys for dental prostheses.  “I know something about the fact that metals melt at different temperatures, and I think something more than just ordinary gasoline was used on those cars.”

He also questions the RCMP’s account of what transpired that day.  “We were told that the police were afraid and ran away from their cars,” Richard says,  “but the many police officers all around the area were highly trained and heavily armed.  What were they afraid of and, if they were afraid, why not get in the cars and simply drive away instead of abandoning their vehicles?”

Within days of the Rexton riot, Richard took his observations directly to the RCMP station in Richibucto.  He was met with an angry response from officers who promptly invited him to leave. He has since shared his information with the Civilian Review and Complaints Commission Against the RCMP (CRCC) that is now investigating RCMP conduct in Kent County during the shale gas protests.
Richard also says he experienced “déjà-vu” during his inspection of the burned cars. He is old enough to remember that when Kouchibouguac National Park was formed, local Acadians living there had their land expropriated by governments, and protests were organized by people trying to defend their homes.

“There was a confrontation with the RCMP back then too,” Richard says, “and, just like Rexton, there was an RCMP car abandoned then too.  It was pushed into the ditch and the demonstrators were blamed.”

Richard strongly suspects that protesters at the Rexton camp have been wrongly blamed for what was, in reality, a staged event designed to discredit them.  Many people here want answers to the kind of pointed questions Richard is asking.

The Civilian Review and Complaints Commission (CRCC) Against the RCMP is currently investigating RCMP conduct in Kent County during shale gas protests here.  Anyone who wishes to submit any evidence to the inquiry and/or share their experiences and perceptions of RCMP conduct during those protests, is invited to e-mail the CRCC and its Senior Reveiwer/Analyst Rosemary Morgan at: reviews@crcc-ccetp.gc.ca