David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
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Methinks Higgy et al and their RCMP cohorts ain't laughing about my having long talk with Hossein Arefi today N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/05/man-moving-to-moncton-to-appear-in.html
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/toronto-man-court-enter-1.5561010
Man moving to Moncton to appear in court after being detained n airport
Daniel Arefi's father said misunderstanding led officials to believe his son just wanted to visit
CBC News · Posted: May 08, 2020 10:00 AM AT
A 19-year-old Toronto man is being held in custody after trying to enter the province through the Moncton airport Thursday night. (Photo: Shane Magee/CBC News)
A 19-year-old
Toronto man is in custody after trying to move to the province on
Thursday and being stopped at the Moncton airport.
Daniel Arefi, who lost his job as a barber because of COVID-19, was persuaded to move to the province by his parents, who live in Moncton.
Hossein Arefi said he had rented an apartment for his son to self-isolate in and hoped he would start a business after that.
But when Daniel arrived at the Moncton airport on Thursday, he was asked the purpose of his visit and answered that he was visiting his parents.
This
was deemed an insufficient reason for entering New Brunswick, which,
with some exceptions, is not letting anyone in who doesn't live in the
province.
People who don't meet the provincial guidelines have to go back, at their own expense. Another passenger who was Daniel flight was also ordered back to Toronto.
"He replied I'm visiting my parents," the father told Information Morning Moncton on Friday.
"Because he used the word 'I'm visiting' they considered him as a visitor. And they said that it will be considered as an unnecessary traveller."
Hossein Arefi said he had documentation showing that an apartment had been rented so Daniel could self-isolate for 14 days, a requirement for anyone entering the province.
Daniel Arefi, who lost his job as a barber because of COVID-19, was persuaded to move to the province by his parents, who live in Moncton.
Hossein Arefi said he had rented an apartment for his son to self-isolate in and hoped he would start a business after that.
But when Daniel arrived at the Moncton airport on Thursday, he was asked the purpose of his visit and answered that he was visiting his parents.
People who don't meet the provincial guidelines have to go back, at their own expense. Another passenger who was Daniel flight was also ordered back to Toronto.
A misunderstanding
But Hossein Arefi said his son's answer about the purpose of his visit was a misunderstanding, since Daniel plans to live in New Brunswick."He replied I'm visiting my parents," the father told Information Morning Moncton on Friday.
"Because he used the word 'I'm visiting' they considered him as a visitor. And they said that it will be considered as an unnecessary traveller."
Hossein Arefi said he had documentation showing that an apartment had been rented so Daniel could self-isolate for 14 days, a requirement for anyone entering the province.
Daniel was told to go to a hotel for three nights, at his own expense, and wait for the next available flight to Toronto, which is Sunday.
Daniel refused and was handcuffed and detained.
Arefi said it should have been clear that his son was planning on moving to the province.
"He came with a one-way ticket and three bags filled with his stuff … to come and live in Moncton," Arefi said.
Mike Comeau, the deputy minister of public safety, said he could not go into specifics about the case because of privacy concerns.
He did say that people who are moving to New Brunswick from other provinces are being allowed in, but that people have also said different things once told they can't enter.
"I can tell you that when people are turned away, it does happen from time to time that they assert a different purpose," said Comeau.
"So sometimes people say that they're coming to visit somebody and then when they find out that that's not going to be permitted, the story changes and they say that they have some other purpose."
Arefi said Daniel is to appear in court in Moncton on Friday.
With files from Information Morning Moncton
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David Amos
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Methinks Higgy et al and their RCMP cohorts ain't laughing about my having long talk with Hossein Arefi today N'esy Pas?
Belladonna Took
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Reply to @David Amos: Methinks you're tiresome. I got the gist of what you're saying here, but why does everything you say have to be a riddle? Believe it or not, we don't keep up to date with every detail of your life.
David Amos
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Reply to @Belladonna Took: Methinks spindoctors should get real names if they wish to insult me on behalf of Higgy et al N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Belladonna Took: Methinks spindoctors should get real names if they wish to insult me on behalf of Higgy et al N'esy Pas?
Belladonna Took
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Reply to @David Amos: Why do you spell N'est-ce pas wrong?
Belladonna
Took
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Reply to @David Amos: I'm just asking, you always allude to things without saying them and 90% of the time, a lot of us (I would guess almost all of us, except that perhaps there's a small chance that someone understand something you're alluding to), have no clue what you're talking about. We don't follow your court cases and we don't know about every interaction in your life.
Reply to @David Amos: I'm just asking, you always allude to things without saying them and 90% of the time, a lot of us (I would guess almost all of us, except that perhaps there's a small chance that someone understand something you're alluding to), have no clue what you're talking about. We don't follow your court cases and we don't know about every interaction in your life.
David Amos
A little Deja Vu about Judge Luc Labonte and I
Charges against cattle farmer Werner Bock dropped
Crown withdrew 2 counts of failing to provide proper food and water because cows have been sold
CBC News · Posted: Jun 20, 2014 12:05 PM AT
Methinks Marguerite Deschamps: and Andre Legault or anyone else can Google our names to figure out why he dropped the charges Folks should understand why I am tired of seeing things go "Poof" N'esy Pas?
David Amos
"Premier Blaine Higgs
was asked about the case during a news conference Friday. He said he
wasn't aware of all of the details, but called it "a most unfortunate
situation."
He said the province isn't turning away people who are moving to New Brunswick, like students returning from university.
"I'll be interested to learn all the details," Higgs said"
Need I say BS? For the record I was on the phone with Hossein Arefi when we discovered byway of the first CBC update of this matter that his son had been conned into pleading guilty. Mr Arefi put me on hold in order to answer a call from Higgy's office Trust that Higgy et al had lots of time to learn all that he needed to know before the Danial got anywhere near Fat Fred City. Yet Higgy denies hours later that he does not know enough as he was questioned about BEFORE the young fella boarded the plane??? YEA RIGHT
He said the province isn't turning away people who are moving to New Brunswick, like students returning from university.
"I'll be interested to learn all the details," Higgs said"
Need I say BS? For the record I was on the phone with Hossein Arefi when we discovered byway of the first CBC update of this matter that his son had been conned into pleading guilty. Mr Arefi put me on hold in order to answer a call from Higgy's office Trust that Higgy et al had lots of time to learn all that he needed to know before the Danial got anywhere near Fat Fred City. Yet Higgy denies hours later that he does not know enough as he was questioned about BEFORE the young fella boarded the plane??? YEA RIGHT
David Amos
FYI WestJet 3405 left Fat Fred City for Toronto at 15:10
I wonder if young Danial was aboard that plane
Methinks the folks who know me well know what old Elton John tune I am humming right now N'esy Pas?
Andre Legault
Reply to @David Amos:
"Goodbye Yellow Brick Road"
David Amos
Reply to @Andre Legault: Close but no cigar
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Does this song apply tonight?
Daniel
Elton John
Daniel is traveling tonight on a plane
I can see the red tail lights heading for Spain
And I can see Daniel waving goodbye
Oh it looks like Daniel, must be the clouds in my eyes
Survey Says???
Andre Legault
Reply to @David Amos:
Does not apply.
David Amos
Oops when I refreshed the page I see that the story has changed again
Andre Legault
Reply to @David Amos:
Happens all the time.
David Amos
Reply to @Andre Legault: Trust if anyone knows that to be a fact it is yours truly
Andre Legault
Reply to @David Amos:
Word salad
David Amos
Reply to @Andre Legault: Methinks you should ask yourself why I don't care what you think of me N'esy Pas?
Andre Legault
Youthinks no too much.
David Amos
Reply to @Andre Legault: Methinks as I scroll down I see lots of folks have figured you out already N'esy Pas?
Andre Legault
Reply to @David Amos:
Youthinks pretty poorly.
john smith
Reply to @Andre Legault: bored eh maybe go for a walk and convert some sun into D3 might make ya cheerier
Andre Legault
Reply to @john smith:
You could use the same medicine.
You could use the same medicine.
john smith
Reply to @Andre Legault: everyone does especially if they are in a particularly foul mood
Andre Legault
Reply to @john smith:
Like your foul mood over a story that does not affect you. Show me the evidence for your claims.
Like your foul mood over a story that does not affect you. Show me the evidence for your claims.
David Amos
Reply to @john smith: Methinks many would agree that you are doing a find job playing this spindoctor like fiddle N'esy Pas?
Andre Legault
Reply to @David Amos:
The pot, kettle, black,
Andre
Legault
Reply to @David Amos:
The guy admitted he was visiting and plead guilty. Who is spinning the story of the lawyer and the deputy minister. Show me the evidence, doctor spin.
The guy admitted he was visiting and plead guilty. Who is spinning the story of the lawyer and the deputy minister. Show me the evidence, doctor spin.
Andre
Legault
Reply to @David Amos:
No evidence?
No evidence?
David Amos
Reply to @Andre
Legault: Ask Higg et al Oh and Say Hey to the RCMP for while you are at
it Methinks you buddies are very well aware that they used to hire me
back in the eighties to investigate things N'esy Pas?
Andre Legault
Reply to @David Amos:
That is not evidence. Do you know me and my buddies? You do not thinks. Are you a mind reader?
David Amos
Reply to @Andre
Legault: Methinks you are in deep doo doo and I don't have to be mind
reader to smell your desperate BS N'esy Pas?
Andre Legault
Reply to @David Amos:
Where is the evidence?
David Amos
Reply to @Andre
Legault: I repeat ask Higgy and his many lawyers working for the Crown
on my dime and tha to of every other taxpayer in NB
Andre Legault
Reply to @David Amos:
You made a claim. Provide some evidence. Spin!
David Amos
Reply to @Andre Legault: Find the old Elton John tune and spin it
Andre Legault
Reply to @David Amos:
Evidence for your claim?
David Amos
Reply to @Andre Legault: Federal Court File Number T-1557-15
Andre Legault
Reply to @David Amos:
Evidence in the case of Daniel Arefi, not your age old complaint that went nowhere.
David Amos
Reply to @Andre Legault: Need I say BINGO???
Andre Legault
Reply to @David Amos:
You can say anything you want, but could you provide evidence to your claim.
Andre Legault
Reply to @Andre Legault:
I didn't think so.
I didn't think so.
David Amos
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Reply to @Andre Legault: ENJOY
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From: Premier of Ontario | Premier ministre de l’Ontario
Date: Fri, 8 May 2020 17:42:52 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Methinks if Higgy' were wise he would stop
Daniel Arefi from boarding the plane in Fat Fred City and send him
home to his parents ASAP N'esy Pas? Mr Prime Minister Trudeau?
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Merci encore pour votre courriel.
David Amos
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Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: @Andre Legault: "Poof"
David Amos
Here is the the latest revelation that and many others should find interesting to say the least
"Richard, the lawyer who represented Arefi, said she had "no knowledge" of the father's assertion that Arefi was moving to Moncton.
Mike Comeau, the deputy minister of public safety, said he could not go into specifics about the case because of privacy concerns."
Yea Right
Andre Legault
Reply to @David Amos:
Tell us what is going on David. What are the facts?
Tell us what is going on David. What are the facts?
john smith
Reply to @David Amos:
this is crazy if the guy was moving in with his parents then he should
not have been ticketed just because he didnt use the proper terminolagy
john smith
Reply to @john smith: go back to ontario and live on teh streets like come on people
Andre
Legault
Reply to @john smith:
Hard to believe that he was moving in with his parents. Visiting and moving are a big difference.
Hard to believe that he was moving in with his parents. Visiting and moving are a big difference.
john smith
Reply to @Andre Legault: he lost his job his father rented him an apt for his isolation it seems legit to me
Andre
Legault
Reply to @john smith:
Why would he be living on the streets.
Why would he be living on the streets.
john smith
Reply to @Andre Legault: he lost his job did you miss that part
Andre
Legault
Reply to @john smith:
That story came out after the son admitted he was visiting.
That story came out after the son admitted he was visiting.
David Amos
Reply to @Andre
Legault: Methinks I am not a wise as the lawyer guys but the awful truth
is Higgy's Police State is in hot water N'esy Pas?
Andre
Legault
Reply to @john smith:
A lot of people lost their jobs. They have access to benefits through CERB.
A lot of people lost their jobs. They have access to benefits through CERB.
Andre Legault
Reply to @David Amos:
Youthinks not too much. Police state lol.
Youthinks not too much. Police state lol.
john smith
Reply to @Andre Legault: politicians mis represent themselves and misspeak everyday whats next wrongthink
Andre
Legault
Reply to @john smith:
The guy was not moving to NB. He admitted it and plead guilty.
The guy was not moving to NB. He admitted it and plead guilty.
john smith
Reply to @Andre Legault: he got railroaded
Andre Legault
Reply to @john smith:
Do you have any evidence of this?
Do you have any evidence of this?
Andre
Legault
Reply to @john smith:
I thought not.
I thought not.
john smith
Reply to @Andre
Legault: its in teh story he used duty council for one and two his
advocate didnt represent him properly he didnt have teh whole story we
have truly lost our way as a society
john smith
Reply to @Andre
Legault: duty council usually always recommends you plea out its like
all they have the time to do have you ever been to court
Andre
Legault
Reply to @john smith:
You might be lost, That is not evidence. But the guy was not moving to NB.
You might be lost, That is not evidence. But the guy was not moving to NB.
Andre
Legault
Reply to @john smith:
Are you a duty counsel? What is your evidence for that claim.
Are you a duty counsel? What is your evidence for that claim.
john smith
Reply to @Andre Legault: ive been to a few rodeos
Andre Legault
Reply to @john smith:
Rodeo is not court cowboy.
Rodeo is not court cowboy.
john smith
Reply to @Andre
Legault: maybe we should just make everyone stay on partridge island if
they dont answer the questions to the perscribed predetermined answers
no nuances this is getting out of hand
john smith
Reply to @john smith: or maybe we should put him in stocks and throw rotten vegetables we are not cavemen here
Andre Legault
Reply to @john smith:
If he was truly moving here, he would have told his lawyer. Nothing getting out of hand
If he was truly moving here, he would have told his lawyer. Nothing getting out of hand
Andre
Legault
Reply to @john smith:
I see how you think. Good thing we live in a modern society.
I see how you think. Good thing we live in a modern society.
john smith
Reply to @Andre Legault: young and unfortunately not properly counciled
Andre
Legault
Reply to @john smith:
Young and not telling the truth to the peace officers, to his lawyer. Properly counseled. He was visiting.
Young and not telling the truth to the peace officers, to his lawyer. Properly counseled. He was visiting.
Andre
Legault
Reply to @David Amos:
So you don't have any facts. Just speculation.
So you don't have any facts. Just speculation.
john smith
Reply to @Andre
Legault: atleast he is trying to increase personal freedoms for all and
himself the alternative or what is being argued here is how we end up
with draconian enforcement of unscientific policies
Andre
Legault
Reply to @john smith:
That's a great big word salad.
That's a great big word salad.
David Amos
Reply to @Andre
Legault: Methinks you should ask you hero Higgy or Hossein Arefi, what I
am up to I am just a private investigator Hence I will only reveal what
i deem to be necessary which you can find byway of my Tweets on this
issue N'esy Pas?
Andre
Legault
Reply to @David Amos:
Sure. I will take everything you say seriously. N'est-ce pas?
Sure. I will take everything you say seriously. N'est-ce pas?
john smith
Reply to @Andre
Legault: i would surmise that based on your reactions english may not be
a strong suit and could be a similar mistake made by someone with the
same language skills
Andre
Legault
Reply to @john smith:
English is my strong suit. Don't let my name fool you.
English is my strong suit. Don't let my name fool you.
john smith
Reply to @Andre
Legault: perhaps he needed help from his parents maybe he needed a boost
in life a lot of people do that and it may not necessarily mean you are
seeking a permanent level perhaps this is a stepping stone somewhere
safe
Andre
Legault
Reply to @john smith:
Seeing as how do not use proper grammar, clearly English is not your strong suit.
Seeing as how do not use proper grammar, clearly English is not your strong suit.
john smith
Reply to @Andre
Legault: i wasnt the reactions and inability to make a strong argument
when presented with one the alternative is not a flattering one
Andre
Legault
Reply to @john smith:
That argument is probably closer to the truth. His father wanted him out of Toronto because it is a hot spot.
That argument is probably closer to the truth. His father wanted him out of Toronto because it is a hot spot.
Andre
Legault
Reply to @john smith:
Clearly, English is not your strong suit.
Clearly, English is not your strong suit.
David Amos
Reply to @Andre Legault: Methinks only a member of the SANB would say such a thing N'esy Pas?
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Andre Legault: Worry pas, David suspects everyone with a French name to be a member of la SANB.
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Nope I know for a fact that mon ami Roger Richard and many of his friends are not fans of yours or the SANB
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Amos: If you only knew...
Roger Richard
Reply to @Marguerite
Deschamps: I can speak for only myself. I do not trust any association:
Even NBDS! They will not look into the health risks Oromocto is
experiencing when they blindly drink fluoridated water.
Roger Richard
Reply to @Marguerite
Deschamps: I would add, because I am a member of NBDS, the people of
Oromocto are drinking fluoridated water on my behalf. I certainly know
that not only I do not want to drink fluoridated water but I do not want
my family to drink fluoridated water. This is another disgrace that we
are doing to the last fluoridated community in NB.
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Roger Richard: I am not disagreeing with you Dr Richard.
David Amos
Methinks its interesting that the story has change 3 times today N'esy Pas?
Andre
Legault
Reply to @David Amos:
Nothing special. Methinks youthinks not too much N'est-ce pas.
Nothing special. Methinks youthinks not too much N'est-ce pas.
Reply to @Andre Legault: Methinks I think way more than you do N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Methinks Higgy et al kow why I would like to have a long talk with Hossein Arefi ASAP N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Go Figure
CONSTITUTION ACT, 1982 (80)
CANADIAN CHARTER OF RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS
Whereas Canada is founded upon principles that recognize the supremacy of God and the rule of law:
Guarantee of Rights and Freedoms
Marginal note:Rights and freedoms in Canada
1. The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society.
2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms:
(a) freedom of conscience and religion;
(b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication;
(c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and
(d) freedom of association.
CONSTITUTION ACT, 1982 (80)
CANADIAN CHARTER OF RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS
Whereas Canada is founded upon principles that recognize the supremacy of God and the rule of law:
Guarantee of Rights and Freedoms
Marginal note:Rights and freedoms in Canada
1. The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society.
2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms:
(a) freedom of conscience and religion;
(b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication;
(c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and
(d) freedom of association.
Merry Brandybuck
Reply to @David Amos:
In a, b , c, or d I don't see anything about the right to travel across
provincial jurisdictions during a pandemic when restrictions are in
place.
Billy Joe Mcallister
Reply to @Merry Brandybuck: You sound a lot like Lou Bell.
David Amos
Reply to @Billy Joe Mcallister: Methinks all of Higgy's spindoctors sing the same tune N'esy Pas?
Merry Brandybuck
Reply to @David Amos: Everyone who disagrees with you isn't a spin doctor for the premier you know.
Hossein Arefi
Reply to @David Amos:
Hossein Arefi
Reply to @David Amos:
Yes, Just now during my call with Mr. Amos I became aware that my sons
plead guilty under duress of poor advice from duty council
David Amos
Reply to @Hossein
Arefi: YES SIR Rest assured I will call the the lawyers mentioned in
this updated article and the Fredericton Airport as well
Hossein Arefi
Reply to @Hossein Arefi: He is on his way to Fredricton.
Amajor Hall
Reply to @Hossein Arefi: Freddy's a nice town, too bad he won't get to see it! Ridic!
Hossein Arefi
Reply to @Amajor Hall: i hope to see you in ame situation very soon.
I am fasting and I will pray for that
I am fasting and I will pray for that
David Amos
Reply to @Amajor Hall: Methinks comedians should Google Luc Labonte and David Amos N'esy Pas?
Reply
to @Hossein Arefi: Turst that I called both lawyers and the Fredericton
Airport just like I said I would Nobody picked up but left them all
blistering voicemails
Carlson MacKenzie
Reply to @David Amos: 10 pounds in a 5 pound bag.
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Hossein Arefi: Why would you pray for that?
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Why not?
Roger Richard
Terry Tibbs
And there you have it folks, proof positive, one single case (and mention of another in passing), that when MR Higgs told us our borders are closed, almost 3 months ago, he wasn't "just kidding".
David Amos
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David Amos:
Maybe you aren't, but I'm not convinced Mr Higgs is, 2 folks affected by our tightly closed border in about 3 months? Sounds to me like someone is kidding.
Tom Benz
CBC, why do you keep changing the story?
Was there any LAWYER at all?
Andre Legault
Harvey Spectra
The lawyer said it was the first time hearing the story from the father?
Someone is lying or a case of a very very bad miscommunication between client and hired lawyer.
I suspect it's the former with suspicion on the father.
Chuck Valderrama
Not even his lawyer knew about his dad's plans. That sounds weird. Probably the dad wanted for him to live here, and he wanted to be sent back to ontario. who knows..
Samual Johnston
Time to open the borders to ns and pei
Andre Legault
Greg Miller
What I don't get is: how do these people even get on the plane in the first place?
David Amos
JoeBrown
The original forecast before data was available was that Canada would have up to 23M infected and 700k deaths. Then we discovered that people could be more cautious and not everyone is going to be sick and the death rate is much lower, but that doesn't satisfy Higgs. Now Higgs is micromanaging every person to make sure they stay in their homes and collect JT money to watch tv.
Andre Legault
Leslie Russell
Anna Ellister
Hope this young man (and others) learn from this. Some may think the travel restrictions go to far but they are what has kept the outbreak manageable in NB.
JoeBrown
Belladonna Took
A lot of us were separate from our families at Easter. We've all made sacrifices. Visiting is not allowed.
Wayne Wright
Chantal LeBouthi
Why so many Quebec poeples visiting their cottage in NB right now
Higgs said the border was close so how can Quebec poeples can come in NB if the border is close
Billy Joe Mcallister
David Amos
Reply to @Billy Joe Mcallister: FYI I truly did have a long talk with the kid's Father Methinks if you read closer you will see that his Father got him a separate apartment so that he could obey Higgy"s orders within his questionable Police State N'esy Pas?
Ian Scott
Reply to @Billy Joe Mcallister: So he says, or did not say. 2 stories from the dude and father. Who would leave without any knowledge of border issue. Half way between lease months so he was staying somewhere there. Feel sorry for the dude but some planning was in store.
Belladonna Took
I'm just glad the liberals aren't in charge because they'd be inviting all of Canada here. So proud of New Brunswick for having a backbone!
Wayne Wright
Reply to @Belladonna Took: actually the bipartisan composition of NB Task Force includes Liberal Leader Vickers plus the other 2 parties. Doubt if your assumptions re the Libs are valid in this case.
Belladonna Took
I hope he tells all of his friends and let's everyone know that we mean business. Let this be a message to Canadians who think they can flout our rules. We have sacrificed too much and achieved too much to allow selfish people who think they have an unfettered right to come to New Brunswick, to take that away from us.
Billy Joe Mcallister
Billy Joe Mcallister
I understand that people are frustrated,frightened and nerves may be wearing thin. But that is no reason to blame your fears and anxieties on this young man and his family. Families should be permitted to be together in these times i spite of what the government believes or doesn't believe. Let him stay with his family. What kind of people are we ?
Bob Smith
Hossein Arefi
Reply to @Billy Joe Mcallister: Some people are like that.
They want everything just for themselves.
If they found PEI is safe; they say we are from PEI. when NB is safe; NB will be their mother's land. If Quebec was safest place they start speak french.
Is that a sign of selfish people or Canadian who lived together for centuries in safe land from coast to coast.
Graeme Scott
I am disappointed at the rush to judgement and the level of fear, intolerance and small mindedness displayed in many of these comments. The kid had lost his job, probably had little or no money and was coming home to live with his parents. I hope CBC updates this story after he appears in court and we get the rest of the story. Time enough then to decide who was right in this incident.
Bob Smith
Dave Corbin
children should be permitted to move back to live with their parents if they lost their job elsewhere. Expect a lawsuit now.
Tim Biddiscombe
Doug McBride
He will be released to his parents, told to spend the next two weeks in isolation and then become the NB citizen he wants to be. There is no bad bad boogy man here folks, just a young man trying to a safe place in this world that is so frigged up right now. He chose the wrong words of entry and got frustrated at the official response. I feel for him deeply.....our kids and grandkids are all out west and we are desperate to be able to go and see them but we can't and I am emotionally hurting because of it. One of our daughters is having some troubles that she could use some "Mom and Dad" support with and we are stuck and unable to be there for her and our grandkids. People need their family and this young man is no different. The virus is an unfeeling SOB, we don't have to be.
Billy Joe Mcallister
Marc Bourque
His problem began when he refused to go to a motel for 3 days and go back to Ontario,hence the shiny chrome bracelet and a court date.!Good for him...
Hossein Arefi
Graeme Scott
Lot's of info missing here. Perhaps the judge can figure out whether it was a case of over zealous "border guards' or an arriving passenger with a questionable story. A 19 year old kid moving back home to live with his parents because he lost his job certainly would seem like a permissible reason to enter the province
Tim Biddiscombe
Jeff LeBlanc
Good! Send him packing along with a hefty bill for our services. STAY OUT!!!
Lou Bell
Stories ! This is the problem . We want the truth , NOT stories ! I'm sure there were parameters that could be followed that obviously weren't ! Was he really coming to stay or was this a temporary stay? Simply jumping on a plane is not satisfactory and hopefully others not wanting to follow the process will hear of this and think twice before doing the same !
Marguerite Deschamps
Toby Tolly
drove him to Freddy?
at whose expense?
Roger Richard
Reply to @David Amos: Thanks Mr. Amos for you dedicated work.
David Amos
Carlson MacKenzie
Reply to @David Amos: 10 pounds in a 5 pound bag.
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Hossein Arefi: Why would you pray for that?
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Why not?
Roger Richard
Reply to @Hossein Arefi: I am so sorry this is happening to your family.
Roger
Richard
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: I will certainly pray for them. It is a disgrace how we treated them.
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Roger
Richard: I agree with you 100% about the way this unfortunate incident
unfolded and was concluded. And I support this family through the
difficult situation they were put in. But I disagree with anyone praying
for something bad to befall anyone. That's the hypocrisy of religion,
most of them!
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite
Deschamps: Why do you wish the worse for my Clan and I? Methinks you
must think we are worth less than chopped liver N'esy Pas?
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Amos: Nothing could be further form the truth. Of course not!
Terry Tibbs
And there you have it folks, proof positive, one single case (and mention of another in passing), that when MR Higgs told us our borders are closed, almost 3 months ago, he wasn't "just kidding".
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks Higgy et al figured out today that I was not kidding either N'esy Pas?
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David Amos:
Maybe you aren't, but I'm not convinced Mr Higgs is, 2 folks affected by our tightly closed border in about 3 months? Sounds to me like someone is kidding.
Tom Benz
CBC, why do you keep changing the story?
Was there any LAWYER at all?
Andre Legault
Reply to @Tom Benz:
There is a picture of and citation from the lawyer. The essence of the story has not changed. He said he was visiting, he plead guilty and the judge ordered him back to Toronto.
There is a picture of and citation from the lawyer. The essence of the story has not changed. He said he was visiting, he plead guilty and the judge ordered him back to Toronto.
Tom Benz
Reply to @Andre
Legault: Did they inform Daniel or his father that he has a lawyer? How
come the father or the son never spoke about their lawyer if they had
any?
Maybe he plead guilty but where is the evidence? Did he plea guilt by his will or he was forced?
Maybe he plead guilty but where is the evidence? Did he plea guilt by his will or he was forced?
David Amos
Reply to @Tom Benz: They just changed it again for the fifth time
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David Amos:
Mr Amos: How long have our borders been closed? And this is the best they can come up with? Why are there not hundreds, or thousands, of stories?
Mr Amos: How long have our borders been closed? And this is the best they can come up with? Why are there not hundreds, or thousands, of stories?
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply
to @Tom Benz: It says either he pleads guilty or spends the weekend or
more in jail. Was he forced? You draw your own conclusion.
Harvey Spectra
The lawyer said it was the first time hearing the story from the father?
Someone is lying or a case of a very very bad miscommunication between client and hired lawyer.
I suspect it's the former with suspicion on the father.
Andre Legault
Reply to @Harvey Spectra:
I agree. There were some kind of shenanigans going on here. Trying to get his son temporarily out of a hot spot.
I agree. There were some kind of shenanigans going on here. Trying to get his son temporarily out of a hot spot.
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Andre Legault: Being judgmental again, I see!
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks he is a proud member od the SANB N'esy Pas?
Andre Legault
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps:
Yes. Do you have a problem with that. But you don't have a problem with Harvey.
Yes. Do you have a problem with that. But you don't have a problem with Harvey.
Andre Legault
Reply to @David Amos:
You thinks not too much. Where is the evidence to your claim? I am still waiting.
You thinks not too much. Where is the evidence to your claim? I am still waiting.
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Andre Legault: I sure do, him calling someone a l'ail "r" with nothing to back it up!
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks you SANB dudes should scroll down and read the words after ENJOY N'esy Pas?
Harvey Spectra
Reply to @Andre Legault:
Everybody loves Harvey.
Why am I speaking in 3rd person?
Everybody loves Harvey.
Why am I speaking in 3rd person?
David Amos
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Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: @Andre Legault:
ENJOY
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From: Premier of Ontario | Premier ministre de l’Ontario
Date: Fri, 8 May 2020 17:42:52 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Methinks if Higgy' were wise he would stop
Daniel Arefi from boarding the plane in Fat Fred City and send him
home to his parents ASAP N'esy Pas? Mr Prime Minister Trudeau?
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---------- Original message ----------
From: Premier of Ontario | Premier ministre de l’Ontario
Date: Fri, 8 May 2020 17:42:52 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Methinks if Higgy' were wise he would stop
Daniel Arefi from boarding the plane in Fat Fred City and send him
home to his parents ASAP N'esy Pas? Mr Prime Minister Trudeau?
To: David Amos
Thank you for your email. Your thoughts, comments and input are greatly valued.
You can be assured that all emails and letters are carefully read,
reviewed and taken into consideration.
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nous avoir fait part de vos idées, commentaires et observations.
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considération tous les courriels et lettres que nous recevons.
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David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: @Andre Legault: "Poof"
Chuck Valderrama
Not even his lawyer knew about his dad's plans. That sounds weird. Probably the dad wanted for him to live here, and he wanted to be sent back to ontario. who knows..
Andre Legault
Reply to @Chuck Valderrama:
I am pretty sure his father wanted to get him out of a hot spot temporarily. The facts (in court) do not point to him moving here permanently. He said he was visiting, he plead guilty. Maybe he told the truth to the lawyer and the lawyer said you need to plead guilty because you have no chance to win.
I am pretty sure his father wanted to get him out of a hot spot temporarily. The facts (in court) do not point to him moving here permanently. He said he was visiting, he plead guilty. Maybe he told the truth to the lawyer and the lawyer said you need to plead guilty because you have no chance to win.
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Andre Legault: Judgmental through and through!
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Mais Oui
Tom Benz
Reply to @Chuck Valderrama: was there any lawyer ?
David Amos
Reply to @Tom Benz: If you can call any "Duty Counsel" in NB a lawyer then YUP
David Amos
Reply to @Chuck Valderrama: When was the last time you believed a lawyer particularly one who in hot water with politicians?
Samual Johnston
Time to open the borders to ns and pei
Andre Legault
Reply to @Samual Johnston:
Nova Scotia is not interested. PEI and NB are in talks.
Nova Scotia is not interested. PEI and NB are in talks.
Belladonna Took
Reply to @Samual
Johnston: I think in a few weeks if all 3 stay with very few cases then
we could have our maritime union open with strong borders with Canada.
Johnny Almar
Reply to @Andre Legault: Higgs said not until at least July.
David Amos
Reply to @Belladonna Took: Methinks that the words that go "Poof" are interesting too N"esy Pas?
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Samual Johnston:
Not when they are so busy blowing smoke up our backsides with stories like this one.
Not when they are so busy blowing smoke up our backsides with stories like this one.
Greg Miller
What I don't get is: how do these people even get on the plane in the first place?
David Amos
Reply to @Greg Miller: DUHHH????
Greg Miller
Reply to @David Amos: I can always count on you for an in-depth, intelligent response!
David Amos
Reply to @Greg Miller: Methinks in return I can bank on your dumb questions N'esy Pas?
JoeBrown
The original forecast before data was available was that Canada would have up to 23M infected and 700k deaths. Then we discovered that people could be more cautious and not everyone is going to be sick and the death rate is much lower, but that doesn't satisfy Higgs. Now Higgs is micromanaging every person to make sure they stay in their homes and collect JT money to watch tv.
Andre Legault
Reply to @JoeBrown:
If we had you in charge the original numbers would be the ones we would be facing now.
If we had you in charge the original numbers would be the ones we would be facing now.
Wayne Wright
Reply to @JoeBrown: thank goodness PNB took the route we did! Such a hero to make such a comment.
JoeBrown
Reply to @Andre
Legault: Nope I would have understood that if Nfld could survive the
Caul funeral home super spreader debacle, that the small Maritime
population of close knit communities are well set up to contain any
outbreaks.
JoeBrown
Reply to @Wayne Wright: No cases now, what are you going to do when wave 2 hits in 4 months?
Andre
Legault
Reply to @JoeBrown:
You are saying the opposite of your initial post.
You are saying the opposite of your initial post.
JoeBrown
Reply to @Andre Legault: Nope, I explained that circumstances are different now that more scientific data is in.
JoeBrown
Reply to @Andre
Legault: Higgs is disregarding the new data and morphed into everyone's
mama, despite the fact NFLd proved they could overcome a big super
spreader event like Caul's funeral home. NB will never be overrum with
Covid so they should open up with Pei.
Andre
Legault
Reply to @JoeBrown:
Judge, when you are elected PM you will get to decide.
Judge, when you are elected PM you will get to decide.
JoeBrown
Reply to @Andre Legault: Ad hominem attack.
Andre Legault
Reply to @JoeBrown:
Not so Judge.
Not so Judge.
David Amos
Reply to @JoeBrown: Methinks Ad hominem attacks are all that desperate spindoctors can do N'esy Pas?
Leslie Russell
Would have been
useful for GNB to have an application process for entry so this family
would know the definitive answer before the son flew all the way over
here to find out. It is one way that governments can make things easier
for themselves and help people at the same time.
Ian Scott
Reply to @Leslie
Russell: Did not see the rental lease offered to prove what they were
saying. ie its BS. Panel truck today parked by Woodstock Tims at
waterfront boat entry point with NS license . Had to imagine what
essential service is needed from there.
JoeBrown
Reply to @Leslie
Russell: Richard, the lawyer who represented Arefi, said she had "no
knowledge" of the father's assertion that Arefi was moving to Moncton.
The boy must be timid if he didn't even tell his lawyer.
Andre Legault
Reply to @JoeBrown:
Or judge joe, maybe he was telling the truth.
Or judge joe, maybe he was telling the truth.
Wayne Wright
Reply to @JoeBrown: why would the young man even need a lawyer to move to NB.
JoeBrown
Reply to @Andre Legault: Ad hominem attack.
You said nothing. It is unclear why his parents had the apartment, yet he was silent.
You said nothing. It is unclear why his parents had the apartment, yet he was silent.
Beverley
Kernan
Reply to @Wayne Wright:
Because 'non-essential visitors' are banned from entering.
Because 'non-essential visitors' are banned from entering.
Andre Legault
Reply to @JoeBrown:
What is ad-hominen? Why did he say visiting? Why did h not tell his lawyer he was moving? Clearly he got what he deserved.
What is ad-hominen? Why did he say visiting? Why did h not tell his lawyer he was moving? Clearly he got what he deserved.
Wayne Wright
Reply to @Beverley
Kernan: a 19yr old saying "visit" instead of "moving" since he had a
one-way ticket that's a starter to delve deeper by the agent.
Wayne Wright
Reply to @Andre Legault: did you ever tell your lawyer you were moving? I didn't think so.
Andre Legault
Reply to @Wayne Wright:
A one way ticket is not necessarily evidence of moving. It could be evidence of an indefinite stay while waiting for Toronto to get things under control.
A one way ticket is not necessarily evidence of moving. It could be evidence of an indefinite stay while waiting for Toronto to get things under control.
Andre Legault
Reply to @Wayne Wright:
I never had to tell my lawyer I was moving. What does this have to do with the story. He said he was visiting. He plead guilty.
I never had to tell my lawyer I was moving. What does this have to do with the story. He said he was visiting. He plead guilty.
Hossein Arefi
Reply to @Leslie
Russell: There has to be a sign or question at Toronto Airport stating
that If you are considered visitor; you will be returned back.
Atleast traveller will know what is his position; Resident or Visitor.
Atleast traveller will know what is his position; Resident or Visitor.
Andre Legault
Reply to @Hossein Arefi:
Sounds like he was a visitor.
Sounds like he was a visitor.
Hossein Arefi
Reply to @Andre
Legault: If your son faced what my son faced and heard that he will be
in RCMP jail till Monday and might be till next Thursday.
In that case; believe me; not your son, even you will plea guilty for sleeping in your bed and using a toilet that everybody can watch you.
In that case; believe me; not your son, even you will plea guilty for sleeping in your bed and using a toilet that everybody can watch you.
Andre Legault
Reply to @Hossein Arefi:
He was not a resident. He said he was a visitor. He did not tell your story to his lawyer. Sounds pretty obvious to me.
He was not a resident. He said he was a visitor. He did not tell your story to his lawyer. Sounds pretty obvious to me.
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Hossein Arefi: Too many legal experts here Mr. Arefi, all with different legal opinions! Darn the facts!
Marguerite Deschamps
And they are all judges to boot, I might add.
Andre Legault
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps:
The facts are the facts. Daniel said he was visiting. He did not tell his story of moving, apartment for isolation, etc. to his lawyer. He plead guilty and went back home.
The facts are the facts. Daniel said he was visiting. He did not tell his story of moving, apartment for isolation, etc. to his lawyer. He plead guilty and went back home.
Andre Legault
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps:
Don't need to judge when someone pleads guilty.
Don't need to judge when someone pleads guilty.
Andre Legault
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps:
Do you have any other facts?
Do you have any other facts?
Andre Legault
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps:
I didn't think so.
I didn't think so.
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Andre
Legault: All you got is hearsay and this is why hearsay is not
admissible in a court of law, with very few exceptions; because hearsay
is unreliable. Plus, there are three sides to every story, the one from
one side, one from the opponent and the real facts. Over and above
that, what is reported here and what transpired in court could be a
totally different story. I've heard court reports in the news that I had
attended and wondered if what they were reporting was actually the same
matter that I had attended. This is why I never voiced any opinion in
this matter.
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Andre
Legault: Furthermore, if what Mr Arefi pointed out is true and you were
arrested and told that you have a choice to remain in jail until Monday,
even until next Thursday or pleading guilty and getting out of jail for
a fine of $292.50, then what would you choose? You could choose to
remain in jail as a matter of principle although most would take the
common sense approach and choose the easy way out.
Andre Legault
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps:
I do not have hearsay. The fact is that he plead guilty to the fact that he was visiting. He would not be choosing to stay in jail as a matter of principle, but as a matter of his innocence.
I do not have hearsay. The fact is that he plead guilty to the fact that he was visiting. He would not be choosing to stay in jail as a matter of principle, but as a matter of his innocence.
Andre Legault
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps:
And I asked if you had other facts. Speculative thinking.
And I asked if you had other facts. Speculative thinking.
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Andre
Legault: It should be plain to anyone that I do not claim to have any
facts, and neither do you. Would you not be the one speculating? And if
you were not in court to hear him plead guilty, then any other way you
had wind of it would be either speculation or hearsay.
"He would not be choosing to stay in jail as a matter of principle, but as a matter of his innocence." - So you are telling me that you would rather go to jail if you were innocent, go through all the headaches of fighting the charge rather than plead guilty and be on your way for a mere $292.50. Then you sure are a man of high principles!
"He would not be choosing to stay in jail as a matter of principle, but as a matter of his innocence." - So you are telling me that you would rather go to jail if you were innocent, go through all the headaches of fighting the charge rather than plead guilty and be on your way for a mere $292.50. Then you sure are a man of high principles!
David Amos
Reply to @Hossein Arefi: I got your text did you get mine?
David Amos
Reply to @Hossein
Arefi: A word to the wise Please believe me when i say that this Legault
character is just a desperate spindoctor for the Crown
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Amos: I must agree with you that Andre's objectivity is clouded to say the least.
Anna Ellister
Hope this young man (and others) learn from this. Some may think the travel restrictions go to far but they are what has kept the outbreak manageable in NB.
JoeBrown
Reply to @Anna
Ellister: JT paying NB to stay in their homes and do nothing is what
kept NB "manageable". What is the plan for Sept second wave, pay
everyone's heat too since they will need it on all day while they watch
tv?
Andre Legault
Reply to @JoeBrown:
If that's what it takes
If that's what it takes
Wayne
Wright
Reply to @JoeBrown: whatever JT is paying is not just for NBers.
JoeBrown
Reply to @Wayne
Wright: Higgs is the master of gas lighting his welfare voters into fear
of life, and the faulty premise that hiding from the world can be done
forever.
Wayne Wright
Reply to @JoeBrown: poor boy you must be the life of a party.
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Wayne Wright: For some, their only goal in life is to be the life of the party.
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks you are a star in Higgy's circus N'esy Pas?
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Amos: I'm sure the elusive Higgs Bozon (without the "n") would beg to differ .
Belladonna Took
A lot of us were separate from our families at Easter. We've all made sacrifices. Visiting is not allowed.
Wayne Wright
Reply to @Belladonna Took: the young man is not visit rather he is relocating.
David Amos
Reply to @Belladonna
Took: Methinks its interesting to see that your words are evaporating
before my very weary old eyes N'esy Pas?
Chantal LeBouthi
Why so many Quebec poeples visiting their cottage in NB right now
Higgs said the border was close so how can Quebec poeples can come in NB if the border is close
Billy Joe Mcallister
Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi: Do you know this for a fact?
Chantal LeBouthi
Reply to @Billy Joe Mcallister:
Yes I do
Yes I do
Belladonna Took
Reply to @Chantal
LeBouthi: We need to tighten our borders so that deceitful people don't
get through. A lot of these other Canadians figure that since New
Brunswick is basically cover-19 free they can be deceitful at the border
to get in. They selfishly give no thought to the well being of 800,000
New Brunswickers who are being put at risk from them.
Chantal LeBouthi
Reply to @Belladonna Took:
These poeples just don’t care we in nb are fallowing the guidelines and theses poeples don’t give a rat
These poeples just don’t care we in nb are fallowing the guidelines and theses poeples don’t give a rat
Billy Joe Mcallister
Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi: So this is a complete double standard.
David Amos
Reply to @Chantal
LeBouthi: Methinks Higgy et all give certain members of poeplekind
special dispensation in his Police State N'esy Pas?
Belladonna
Took
Reply to @Chantal
LeBouthi: Exactly, we've given up so much and done so well and
unfortunately people from outside our province who don't take the virus
seriously , are not respecting our will to take it seriously.
Billy Joe Mcallister
Reply to @Belladonna
Took: So what you are saying, in the case of the rule breaking
Quebecers, They should be detained and escorted to the Quebec border
immediately, don't you agree?
Belladonna
Took
Reply to @Billy Joe
Mcallister: If they refuse to leave, yes. This young man was given the
opportunity to stay in a hotel and then fly home when possible, he
refused.
Chantal LeBouthi
Reply to @Belladonna Took:
One person told me that one Quebec person travel all the way from the cote nord Quebec to nb to go fishing
I don’t understand at all what going on and it’s scary only take one person to infect so many
One person told me that one Quebec person travel all the way from the cote nord Quebec to nb to go fishing
I don’t understand at all what going on and it’s scary only take one person to infect so many
Billy Joe Mcallister
Reply to @Belladonna
Took: He has no home in Toronto. He left it to come and live with his
parents. Didn't you read the article?
Ralph Green
Reply to @Billy Joe Mcallister: I agree
David Amos
Reply to @Billy Joe Mcallister: FYI I truly did have a long talk with the kid's Father Methinks if you read closer you will see that his Father got him a separate apartment so that he could obey Higgy"s orders within his questionable Police State N'esy Pas?
Ian Scott
Reply to @Billy Joe Mcallister: So he says, or did not say. 2 stories from the dude and father. Who would leave without any knowledge of border issue. Half way between lease months so he was staying somewhere there. Feel sorry for the dude but some planning was in store.
Ian Scott
Reply to @David Amos: Brought the lease out did he? ie parents have lease or own the apt. ? or as said "visiting".
David Amos
Reply to @Ian Scott: Are you having fun again at somebody else's expense?
Belladonna Took
I'm just glad the liberals aren't in charge because they'd be inviting all of Canada here. So proud of New Brunswick for having a backbone!
Billy Joe Mcallister
Reply to @Belladonna
Took: Glad to hear you say that. Now I understand. Your a conservative
hack. It explains much. Thank you.
Belladonna
Took
Reply to @Billy Joe
Mcallister: I'm not a hack for anyone, I'm just glad we have a premier
who isn't against borders. I know for a fact that a lot of other
premiers would never have instituted border checks.
Billy Joe Mcallister
Reply to @Belladonna Took: "a premier who isn't against borders."?
Billy Joe Mcallister
Reply to @Billy Joe Mcallister: What does that mean?
Belladonna
Took
Reply to @Billy Joe Mcallister: Ideologically opposed to the idea of a border between provinces during a global pandemic.
Billy Joe Mcallister
Reply to @Belladonna Took: So he's in favour of border crossing control -from Ontario but apparently not Quebec. I see.
David Amos
Reply to @Billy Joe Mcallister: "Now I understand. Your a conservative hack. It explains much."
BINGO
BINGO
Wayne Wright
Reply to @Belladonna Took: actually the bipartisan composition of NB Task Force includes Liberal Leader Vickers plus the other 2 parties. Doubt if your assumptions re the Libs are valid in this case.
Belladonna Took
I hope he tells all of his friends and let's everyone know that we mean business. Let this be a message to Canadians who think they can flout our rules. We have sacrificed too much and achieved too much to allow selfish people who think they have an unfettered right to come to New Brunswick, to take that away from us.
Billy Joe Mcallister
Reply to @Belladonna
Took: You talk as if you are a spokesperson in a lynch mob. You're an
authoritarian. Everyone is making sacrifices. We are nothing special
here just fortunate recipients of geography and a lack of concentrated
population. what if it were your son or daughter?
Belladonna
Took
Reply to @Billy Joe Mcallister: I'd tell them to stay where they're at. Travel during a pandemic is unwise.
Billy Joe Mcallister
Reply to @Belladonna Took: But sometimes necessary nonetheless
Belladonna
Took
Reply to @Billy Joe
Mcallister: We took measures to prevent the spread by implementing
borders, closing schools, and not allowing TFWs in. Fortunate
geography? We share a border with the province at the epicentre of the
Canadian outbreak!
Belladonna
Took
Reply to @Billy Joe
Mcallister: This wasn't necessary. There are plenty of jobs in Ontario
and federal funds for those who lost their jobs and can't find another
one. Our province isn't a place for other Canadians to hide out in
during a pandemic. The result of that would be that our province would
be infected.
Billy Joe Mcallister
Reply to @Belladonna
Took: Our measures are mostly the same as every other province. So you
don't believe that families should be allowed to be together in a time
of crises?
Belladonna
Took
Reply to @Billy Joe Mcallister: His parents are free to go to Ontario
Hossein Arefi
Reply to @Belladonna Took: New Brunswick is not your own to decide who to come and not.
It a part of Canada Land and it's belong to all Canadian.
Who lives in New Brunswick has the rights to bring his family to live with him anywhere he live.
That's the human rights; but if you are selfish and wants New Brunswick just for your family; so take it and keep all other families in it to live in parts because of your own ideas.
It a part of Canada Land and it's belong to all Canadian.
Who lives in New Brunswick has the rights to bring his family to live with him anywhere he live.
That's the human rights; but if you are selfish and wants New Brunswick just for your family; so take it and keep all other families in it to live in parts because of your own ideas.
Billy Joe Mcallister
I understand that people are frustrated,frightened and nerves may be wearing thin. But that is no reason to blame your fears and anxieties on this young man and his family. Families should be permitted to be together in these times i spite of what the government believes or doesn't believe. Let him stay with his family. What kind of people are we ?
Bob Smith
Reply to @Billy Joe Mcallister: Rules are rules. Show me where family is an exception to closed borders.
Billy Joe
Mcallister
Reply to @Bob Smith: Rules are not laws. Rules are guide lines
Bob Smith
Reply to @Billy Joe Mcallister: NB closed the borders to all except essential people. That's a fact.
Belladonna Took
Reply to @Billy Joe Mcallister: His family are free to go to Ontario
Alex Stevens
Reply to @Billy Joe
Mcallister: We're losing our sense of common decency and compassion at a
rapid pace. It's been happening for a long time, a lot longer than
covid-19. People crave judging and shaming other people, they do not
know. It's like an online sport or something. A disease unto itself.
Billy Joe
Mcallister
Reply to @Bob Smith: So you disagree that families should be together in a time of crises? I see...
Cleve
Gallant
Reply to @Billy Joe
Mcallister: He should have told the truth the first time,Hard to trust
somebody who keeps changing their story,
Billy Joe
Mcallister
Reply to @Cleve
Gallant: He's 19 years old, in a semi hostile environment, and probably
frightened,. He was no doubt nervous and as a result misspoke. We have
no way of knowing the demeanour or the intimidation level of the
"officers" in charge. doesn't he deserves a chance to explain himself
and maybe have somebody to appeal on his behalf. This is not communist
dictatorship. We/He still have rights.
Belladonna Took
Reply to @Billy Joe
Mcallister: He's not going to prison or anything, he's just not allowed
to come here. We don't want unnecessary travel into our province. His
travel was unnecessary.
Billy Joe Mcallister
Reply to @Belladonna Took: So says you.
David Amos
Reply to @Billy Joe Mcallister: So says Higgy too
Vernon McPhee
Reply to @Billy Joe Mcallister: So says the facts as presented in court and ruled on by the relevant authority.
Bob Smith
Reply to @Billy Joe
Mcallister: So why didn't his parents go to Ontario to be with their son
then? Oh, right, cause Ontario is still dealing with high infections.
Cleve
Gallant
Reply to @Billy Joe
Mcallister: From what i read i don’t think he was being mistreated,They
tried to reason with him for hours which wouldn’t happen in any
communist country,And i don’t buy the excuse of him being nervous,
Billy Joe Mcallister
Reply to @Cleve
Gallant: You may be right and you may be wrong. Some people have the
ability to put themselves hypothetically into another's position and
others not so much. this much is obvious. personally, I always give
everybody the benefit of the doubt. so what do you think about somebody
coming here from Quebec to go fishing and are still here? This Daniel
guy was moving from Toronto to live with his parents in NB. His father
had rented him an apartment to self isolate in for 14 days. I heard
rumors of out of province vehicles being seen around the province and I
know it's true. It is a double standard. I guess equality is more
equal for some than it is for others.
Hossein Arefi
Reply to @Billy Joe Mcallister: Some people are like that.
They want everything just for themselves.
If they found PEI is safe; they say we are from PEI. when NB is safe; NB will be their mother's land. If Quebec was safest place they start speak french.
Is that a sign of selfish people or Canadian who lived together for centuries in safe land from coast to coast.
Graeme Scott
I am disappointed at the rush to judgement and the level of fear, intolerance and small mindedness displayed in many of these comments. The kid had lost his job, probably had little or no money and was coming home to live with his parents. I hope CBC updates this story after he appears in court and we get the rest of the story. Time enough then to decide who was right in this incident.
Bob Smith
Reply to @Graeme
Scott: What part of "closed borders" is a rush to judgement? Try this:
the man lost his job, his parents told him to come to NB where the virus
is almost non existent and move back to Ontario when they lift
restrictions.
Rhonda Phillips
Reply to @Graeme Scott: I don’t know what rush to judgement there is here. None that I see.
Ask all the Barbers and hairstylists if this is a judgement
Ask all the Barbers and hairstylists if this is a judgement
Amajor Hall
Reply to @Bob Smith:
...he should've said 'I'm moving here!'...all done, carry-on, but nooooo
the emergency order has turned us into a police state! Wonder if i left
and came back, would they put guards at my door to insure i
self-isolated? Yea, probably...because of selfishness!
Alex Stevens
Reply to @Graeme
Scott: I agree. People need to extinguish their pitchforks, put them
down, because that is really starting to stink!
Hossein Arefi
Reply to @Graeme
Scott: I will give you the update with broken heart talking as father
who lost his rights to keep his son safe where the whole family live.
They handcuffed him since 7 pm till 12 pm then transferred to RCMP
secure area jail.
where their toilets are common and without wall and door to others.
They brought him a lawyer who adviced to be out of jail plea guilty and go back to Toronto otherwise you might be charged for one month at the jail and tried it last night.
He agreed under pressure to leave his family, his cousins and his new apartment behind and go back to the city that he decided to leave earlier.
where their toilets are common and without wall and door to others.
They brought him a lawyer who adviced to be out of jail plea guilty and go back to Toronto otherwise you might be charged for one month at the jail and tried it last night.
He agreed under pressure to leave his family, his cousins and his new apartment behind and go back to the city that he decided to leave earlier.
Dave Corbin
children should be permitted to move back to live with their parents if they lost their job elsewhere. Expect a lawsuit now.
Tim Biddiscombe
Reply to @Dave
Corbin: No they shouldnt. And he is 19, hardly a child. Any lawsuit like
that would be thrown out as frivolous as everyone knows or should know
the guidelines.
Lou Bell
Reply to @Dave
Corbin: And yet he didn't follow the process ! He just jumped on a plane
and flew to the province ! Let him sue ! It'll just add to his court
costs ! His loss !!!
Graeme Scott
Reply to @Dave
Corbin: If you read the story that IS a permitted reason. NB's new Dept
of Homeland Security just chose not to believe him.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Dave
Corbin: I agree - except that when asked the purpose of his trip, the
son didn't explain that he'd lost his job and was moving back to live
with his parents. He said he was "visiting." His choice of words, his
consequences to deal with.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Graeme Scott: No, they believed what he said. He said he was visting.
Vernon McPhee
Reply to @Dave
Corbin: Yes and he would have been if he had just said he was moving
here when they asked the purpose of his trip. Why is that so hard for
some people to understand?
Vernon McPhee
Reply to @Graeme
Scott: Well since he never said that was the purpose they really did not
make any choice to believe him in that regard or not.
Hossein Arefi
Reply to @Dave Corbin: This was what I tried everybody to hear from me.
Doug McBride
He will be released to his parents, told to spend the next two weeks in isolation and then become the NB citizen he wants to be. There is no bad bad boogy man here folks, just a young man trying to a safe place in this world that is so frigged up right now. He chose the wrong words of entry and got frustrated at the official response. I feel for him deeply.....our kids and grandkids are all out west and we are desperate to be able to go and see them but we can't and I am emotionally hurting because of it. One of our daughters is having some troubles that she could use some "Mom and Dad" support with and we are stuck and unable to be there for her and our grandkids. People need their family and this young man is no different. The virus is an unfeeling SOB, we don't have to be.
Billy Joe Mcallister
Reply to @Doug McBride: Yours is the voice of reason and compassion so far in these comments. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=share&v=QcUAG6t5aN8&fbclid=IwAR3amTsiZ1h6D6X4xhpl6XABXd3Qpn8dtv8wc4opxrYm8zYx3Gkeeismqck&app=desktop
Hossein Arefi
Reply to @Doug
McBride: Thank you for great feeling as real father. As Canadian I
thought I have the right to bring my son to live with his parents,
sister, Uncle, Aunt and cousins.
But now feel frustration and sorry for what I did with my young man to keep him in this situation to be handcuffed, Trying the secured area of rcmp jail where the dangerous Drug Dealers kept and dirty beds where nobody like to try.
But now feel frustration and sorry for what I did with my young man to keep him in this situation to be handcuffed, Trying the secured area of rcmp jail where the dangerous Drug Dealers kept and dirty beds where nobody like to try.
Marc Bourque
His problem began when he refused to go to a motel for 3 days and go back to Ontario,hence the shiny chrome bracelet and a court date.!Good for him...
Hossein Arefi
Reply to @Marc Bourque: I hop very soon god will give you what you deserve.
I hope your next present to your kid will be those shiny chrome bracelet in his birthday, and infront of the eyes of his mother.
I will pray for that.
I hope your next present to your kid will be those shiny chrome bracelet in his birthday, and infront of the eyes of his mother.
I will pray for that.
Marc Bourque
Reply to @Hossein
Arefi: yeah you a shining example of what trudeau let in...LOL LOL DOnt
worry My family os law abiding unlike you!
Graeme Scott
Lot's of info missing here. Perhaps the judge can figure out whether it was a case of over zealous "border guards' or an arriving passenger with a questionable story. A 19 year old kid moving back home to live with his parents because he lost his job certainly would seem like a permissible reason to enter the province
Tim Biddiscombe
Reply to @Graeme Scott: So why did he story change?
Tim
Biddiscombe
Reply to @Graeme Scott: "his" story change. My apologies for the typo..
Tim
Biddiscombe
Reply to @Graeme
Scott: ""I can tell you that when people are turned away, it does happen
from time to time that they assert a different purpose," said Comeau."
Graeme
Scott
Reply to @Tim
Biddiscombe: Don't want to prejudge but maybe language issues? Is
"visiting parents indefinitely" different than "living with"? Perhaps
the story "changed" because he was trying to clarify a misunderstanding
on the part of the official.
Tim
Biddiscombe
Reply to @Graeme
Scott: What language issues? If he doesnt understand English, he has
access to French speaking officers. "Is "visiting parents indefinitely"
different than "living with"?" Yes it is actually. He could be living
with them for a week, but indefinitely means just that.
Rhonda Phillips
Reply to @Graeme Scott: missing info?
Yes, you’re right. Appears there’s a lot of it missing. Tax bills, hydro, rent, property ownership...etc
Yes, you’re right. Appears there’s a lot of it missing. Tax bills, hydro, rent, property ownership...etc
Jim Cyr
Reply to @Graeme Scott:
Of course it isn't.
Of course it isn't.
Rhonda Phillips
Reply to @Graeme Scott:
19 years old is Legal age adult in this province. I’m not sure why you say kid.
This is getting very old and he knew the rules.
19 years old is Legal age adult in this province. I’m not sure why you say kid.
This is getting very old and he knew the rules.
Chris Jones
Reply to @Tim
Biddiscombe: If it changed from "Visiting folks" to "Moving back to NB
to live with my folks while I get back on my feet", is that really
enough of a delta to get arrested over?
I'm all for being cautious with non-essential travel, but this seems like overkill based off the data provided.
I'm all for being cautious with non-essential travel, but this seems like overkill based off the data provided.
Billy Joe Mcallister
Reply to @Tim
Biddiscombe: I think most people may get nervous and misspeak while
being interrogated by "officials", especially if you are non white and
French or English is not your native tongue. just saying
Hossein Arefi
Reply to @Graeme
Scott: They were threatening the young man to accept to plea guilty or
be in jail for about a month because you disobey the emergency state
law.
What do you think he decided; to go back to jail or go back to Toronto?
both are away from his family.
What do you think he decided; to go back to jail or go back to Toronto?
both are away from his family.
Hossein Arefi
Reply to @Billy Joe Mcallister: You are 100% right.
My son tried to use short answer for short question.
Why are you here? I am visiting my parents.
He didn't say I killed someone to put him in jail and take that type of action against him.
If New Brunswick Officers are professionals why they are not giving questionare paper to the passengers to write the proper answers.
My son tried to use short answer for short question.
Why are you here? I am visiting my parents.
He didn't say I killed someone to put him in jail and take that type of action against him.
If New Brunswick Officers are professionals why they are not giving questionare paper to the passengers to write the proper answers.
Jeff LeBlanc
Good! Send him packing along with a hefty bill for our services. STAY OUT!!!
Ralph Green
Reply to @Jeff
LeBlanc: agreed we need to make a few examples out of these border
crashers. First offence fly them back to where they come from, second
offence jail them until the pandemic is over. All at there expense.
Hossein Arefi
Reply to @Ralph Green: I wish the same for you and your entire family.
This city is belong to all who lives here it's not your private land to take selfish decisions.
If your kid has right to live with you, so my kid does too.
This city is belong to all who lives here it's not your private land to take selfish decisions.
If your kid has right to live with you, so my kid does too.
Lou Bell
Stories ! This is the problem . We want the truth , NOT stories ! I'm sure there were parameters that could be followed that obviously weren't ! Was he really coming to stay or was this a temporary stay? Simply jumping on a plane is not satisfactory and hopefully others not wanting to follow the process will hear of this and think twice before doing the same !
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Lou DumBell: You have no clue about the facts, yet you jump to conclusions, as usual.
Dan Lee
Reply to @Lou Bell:
We have a trade announcement.................DANIEL AREFI to N-B AND lou Bell to toronto.....seems like a good deal for N-B
We have a trade announcement.................DANIEL AREFI to N-B AND lou Bell to toronto.....seems like a good deal for N-B
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Dan Lee: Good trade, a steal of a trade!!!!!
Toby Tolly
drove him to Freddy?
at whose expense?
Ralph Green
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Man pleads guilty to violating ban on travel to N.B., to be flown back to Ontario
Daniel Arefi's father said misunderstanding led officials to believe his son just wanted to visit
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/toronto-man-court-enter-1.5561010
Man pleads guilty to violating ban on travel to N.B., to be flown back to Ontario
Daniel Arefi's father said misunderstanding led officials to believe his son just wanted to visit
A 19-year-old Toronto man is being held in custody after trying to enter the province through the Moncton airport Thursday night. (Photo: Shane Magee/CBC News)
A 19-year-old man will be flown back to Ontario after he pleaded guilty to violating New Brunswick's emergency measures order prohibiting visitors from entering the province.
Daniel Arefi pleaded guilty after he was ticketed and then arrested Thursday evening after landing at the Moncton airport.
Arefi appeared in provincial court Friday morning, where he entered the plea by phone from Codiac Regional RCMP holding cells.
Provincial court Judge Luc Labonté ordered him to be driven to Fredericton on Friday by provincial peace officers and placed on an afternoon flight back to Toronto. He was also fined the minimum $292.50 for violating the province's Emergency Measures Act.
Crown prosecutor Maurice Blanchard outlined the facts of the case after Arefi consulted with duty counsel Bernadette Richard
It's time not to be selfish.- Provincial court Judge Luc Labonté
The prosecutor said Arefi was stopped by peace officers stationed at the Moncton airport because of the pandemic.
He was questioned about why he was coming to New Brunswick and told them he was visiting the province.
Blachard said his travel was deemed non-essential, and he was ordered to self-isolate at a hotel and board the next flight back to Ontario on Sunday.
"Officers tried to convince him to comply for about four hours ... but he did not want to," Blanchard said. He was arrested at about 6:55 p.m. for violating the state of emergency.
Arefi declined to say anything when given the chance during the brief sentencing hearing.
"It's time not to be selfish," Labonté told Arefi. "It's time to be community-minded, and you're not."
Labonté warned that if Arefi returned to the province during the pandemic he'd likely send him to jail for 90 days.
"He decided to resolve his matter and we're just very happy that it worked out well as it did," Richard said in an interview outside court.
Bernadette Richard, who represented Daniel Arefi on Friday as duty counsel, said the man decided to resolve the matter. (Pierre Fournier/CBC)
Before the court appearance, his father had offered a different version of why his son was coming to New Brunswick.
Arefi, who lost his job as a barber because of COVID-19, had been persuaded by his parents to move to the province, according to his father, who lives in Moncton.
Hossein Arefi said he had rented an apartment for his son to self-isolate in and hoped he would start a business after that.
But when Daniel arrived at the Moncton airport on Thursday, he was asked the purpose of his visit and answered that he was visiting his parents. There was no mention of a plan to move to the province during the court appearance nor in the facts of the case.
This was deemed an insufficient reason for entering New Brunswick, which, with some exceptions, is not letting anyone in who doesn't live in the province.
People who don't meet the provincial guidelines have to go back, at their own expense. Another passenger who was on Daniel's flight was also ordered back to Toronto.
A misunderstanding
But Hossein Arefi said his son's answer about the purpose of his visit was a misunderstanding, since Daniel plans to live in New Brunswick."He replied, 'I'm visiting my parents,'" the father told Information Morning Moncton on Friday.
"Because he used the word 'I'm visiting' they considered him as a visitor. And they said that it will be considered as an unnecessary traveller."
Hossein Arefi said he had documentation showing that an apartment had been rented so Daniel could self-isolate for 14 days, a requirement for anyone entering the province.
But the peace officers at the airport told Daniel to go to a hotel for three nights, at his own expense, and wait for the next available flight to Toronto, which is Sunday.
Arefi said it should have been clear his son was planning on moving to the province.
"He came with a one-way ticket and three bags filled with his stuff … to come and live in Moncton," the father said.
Richard, the lawyer who represented Arefi, said she had "no knowledge" of the father's assertion that Arefi was moving to Moncton.
Mike Comeau, the deputy minister of public safety, said he could not go into specifics about the case because of privacy concerns.
He did say that people who are moving to New Brunswick from other provinces are being allowed in, but that people have also said different things once told they can't enter.
"I can tell you that when people are turned away, it does happen from time to time that they assert a different purpose," said Comeau.
"So sometimes people say that they're coming to visit somebody and then when they find out that that's not going to be permitted, the story changes and they say that they have some other purpose."
With files from Information Morning Moncton and Shane Magee
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David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos @alllibertynews and 49 others
Methinks Higgy et al and their RCMP cohorts ain't laughing about my
having long talk with Hossein Arefi today N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.
#nbpoli #cdnpoli
https://www.cbc.ca/news/
Man moving to Moncton to appear in court after being detained n airport
Daniel Arefi's father said misunderstanding led officials to believe
his son just wanted to visit
CBC News · Posted: May 08, 2020 10:00 AM AT
151 Comments
David Amos
Methinks Higgy et al and their RCMP cohorts ain't laughing about my
having long talk with Hossein Arefi today N'esy Pas?
Belladonna Took
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks you're tiresome. I got the gist of what
you're saying here, but why does everything you say have to be a
riddle? Believe it or not, we don't keep up to date with every detail
of your life.
David Amos
Reply to @Belladonna Took: Methinks spindoctors should get real names
if they wish to insult me on behalf of Higgy et al N'esy Pas?
Belladonna Took
Reply to @David Amos: Why do you spell N'est-ce pas wrong?
Belladonna Took
Reply to @David Amos: I'm just asking, you always allude to things
without saying them and 90% of the time, a lot of us (I would guess
almost all of us, except that perhaps there's a small chance that
someone understand something you're alluding to), have no clue what
you're talking about. We don't follow your court cases and we don't
know about every interaction in your life.
David Amos
Methinks Higgy et al kow why I would like to have a long talk with
Hossein Arefi ASAP N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Go Figure
CONSTITUTION ACT, 1982 (80)
CANADIAN CHARTER OF RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS
Whereas Canada is founded upon principles that recognize the supremacy
of God and the rule of law:
Guarantee of Rights and Freedoms
Marginal note:Rights and freedoms in Canada
1. The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights
and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits
prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and
democratic society.
2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms:
(a) freedom of conscience and religion;
(b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including
freedom of the press and other media of communication;
(c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and
(d) freedom of association.
Merry Brandybuck
Reply to @David Amos: In a, b , c, or d I don't see anything about the
right to travel across provincial jurisdictions during a pandemic when
restrictions are in place.
Billy Joe Mcallister
Reply to @Merry Brandybuck: You sound a lot like Lou Bell.
David Amos
Reply to @Billy Joe Mcallister: Methinks all of Higgy's spindoctors
sing the same tune N'esy Pas?
Merry Brandybuck
Reply to @David Amos: Everyone who disagrees with you isn't a spin
doctor for the premier you know.
Hossein Arefi
Reply to @David Amos:
Hossein Arefi
Reply to @David Amos: Yes, Just now during my call with Mr. Amos I
became aware that my sons plead guilty under duress of poor advice
from duty council
David Amos
Reply to @Hossein Arefi: YES SIR Rest assured I will call the the
lawyers mentioned in this updated article and the Fredericton Airport
as well
Hossein Arefi
Reply to @Hossein Arefi: He is on his way to Fredricton.
Amajor Hall
Reply to @Hossein Arefi: Freddy's a nice town, too bad he won't get to
see it! Ridic!
Hossein Arefi
Reply to @Amajor Hall: i hope to see you in ame situation very soon.
I am fasting and I will pray for that
David Amos
Reply to @Amajor Hall: Methinks comedians should Google Luc Labonte
and David Amos N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Hossein Arefi: Turst that I called both lawyers and the
Fredericton Airport just like I said I would Nobody picked up but left
them all blistering voicemails
Carlson MacKenzie
Reply to @David Amos: 10 pounds in a 5 pound bag.
On 5/6/20, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
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> From: "Higgs, Premier Blaine (PO/CPM)" <Blaine.Higgs@gnb.ca>
> Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 12:59:42 +0000
> Subject: Automatic reply: Methinks Canadian Constitution Foundation
> should and Ontario Libertarian Party should get along like a house on
> fire N'esy Pas?
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
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> David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
>
> Replying to @DavidRayAmos @alllibertynews and 49 others
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> Methinks the RCMP running amuck in Higgy's Police State would be wise
> not to harass me any further as I return to the emergency room for
> more tests under my Doctor's' orders N'esy Pas?
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> https://davidraymondamos3.
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> #nbpoli #cdnpoli
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> https://www.cbc.ca/news/
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> N.B. COVID-19 roundup: Province to hold last minute news briefing Tuesday
> The province initially said it would only hold news conferences on
> Monday, Wednesday and Fridays
> Elizabeth Fraser · CBC News · Posted: May 05, 2020 11:46 AM AT
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> 133 Comments
> Commenting is now closed for this story.
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> David Amos
> Methinks Higgy et al would not be wise to deny getting my email today N'esy
> Pas?
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> Methinks the RCMP running amuck in Higgy's Police State would be wise
> not to harass me any further as I return to the emergency room for
> more tests under my Doctor's' orders N'esy Pas?
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> Methinks Higgy et al should agree that Saillant's words are the
> understatements of the year N'esy Pas?
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> "Saillant said the province has put the economy into an induced coma,
> hoping it will be healthy when awakened — but no one is really sure
> what will happen."
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> Saillant, typical economist "black wallpaper" hanger. Ok, so the
> Province is in dire straights as are most if not all provinces and
> certainly the Federal Government -- an your recommended solutions or
> approach?? However, given your statement, " the economy could further
> be hurt by demographics" -- I'm not sure I want your solution for
> that!
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> Marguerite Deschamps
> Reply to @Greg Miller: The Province is in dire straights as are most
> if not all provinces and certainly the Federal Government as are most
> other countries. We are all in this together.
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> David Amos
> Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Who is we?
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> If there ever is a time that governments should be spending money and
> going into a deficit. During a crisis is the right time.
> While it may not be ideal, the consequence of not doing so would have
> a much worse outcome.
> I suspect that there will be more spending announced by the government
> in the coming months to deal with the harsh realities of this crisis.
> We will agree with some of them and disagree with others. But if at
> the end of the day this deficit financing helps us get through the
> rough patches and brings a semblance of normalcy then that is a good
> thing.
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> David Amos
> Reply to @David News: Methinks you and I disagree as to whether this
> is a crisis or not N'esy Pas?
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> Leslie Russell
> Reply to @David News: Yes, BUT we didn't SAVE during good times.
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> David News
> Reply to @Leslie Russell: Leslie that should not be the point. The
> point is there is a need caused by things beyond the control of the
> people and the government. So assistance is warranted
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> Mary Smith
> Reply to @David News: Not to mention all the events/festivals/etc that
> will not be going forward this year due to the pandemic. There's a lot
> of savings in certain areas from cancellations that can be shifted
> towards assistance to individuals and businesses alike.
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> Preferably in the form of UBI, causing a trickle up economy to help
> support local businesses and communities, because this year we are all
> going to not be traveling and staying local - a Staycation for the
> Nation - where we'll all be able to support our local communities
> thrive.
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> Leslie Russell
> Reply to @David News: Keep borrowing and let the next generation pay.
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> Leslie Russell
> Reply to @David News: SAVING for the rainy day is EXACTLY the point.
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> Bruce Sanders
> Reply to @David News: It's a crisis because of the governments, they
> shut down the economy for the most part. There are many jurisdictions
> that did not do this. Sweden (same outcomes as Quebec), Brazil (Same
> outcomes as Nova Scotia, and then the 6 US States that did not shut
> down and their outcomes are the same as States of the same population.
> Closing down did not do any good because it was too late everywhere
> (an observation, not a complaint). I plan to travel at the end of the
> month, can't stay here and be locked up. I like Alberta's plan. I will
> spend my money there and visit family and they do not have any
> self-isolation orders form within Canada.
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> On your deficit financing. Yeah, that's what PET, John Turner,
> Chertien and Don MacDonald all said in the 1970s. We are still paying
> for that. Yeah, I'm old and I remember those days. The 1970s added
> more real debt than any other decade.
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> David News
> Reply to @Bruce Sanders: Bruce, hilarious is all that I can say to your
> response
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> David News
> Reply to @Leslie Russell: So yelling for emphasis is brilliant. Why
> didn't I think of that for those that are OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY!
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> Bruce Sanders
> Reply to @David News: And yet you provide no new information. Got it.
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> David News
> Reply to @Bruce Sanders: Repeating history from 50yrs ago or overlying
> results for different countries with different climates, health
> systems, rules of law and adherence to laws that are different does
> not provide a template for what has just occurred nor does it provide
> a clear path forward. All it does is provide the opportunity to look
> at issues with a historical lens and keep the blinders on to what is
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> If I ever get out of NB again I will cry FREEDOM! like Wiliam Wallace.
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> David Amos
> Reply to @Brent Harris Blizzard: Me Too
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> DJ Redfern
> Reply to @Brent Harris Blizzard:
> C-ya!
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> Dan Lee
> Reply to @Brent Harris Blizzard:
> FREEDOM.....bahaha...lot of good it did him...........
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> Andrew Clarkson
> Reply to @Brent Harris Blizzard:
> How does that go, "Don't let the screen door hit you on the ..... on
> your way out"
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> David Amos
> Content disabled
> Reply to @Dan Lee: Methinks many would agree that History already
> remembers Wallace in afar better light that it will ever remember
> Higgy's Police State N'esy Pas?
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> SarahRose Werner
> Reply to @Brent Harris Blizzard: You can leave any time you want,
> Brent. See the story posted this morning about the guy who drove from
> NB to BC to plant trees. Now getting back in, *that* might be a
> problem for you.
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> David Amos
> Content disabled
> Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Methinks folks should ask why you left the
> USA to settle here in Benedict Arnold's town just like our Loyalist
> ancestors did after you Yankees rebelled from our Crown just like
> Wallace did N'esy Pas?
>
> Sarah Brown
> Reply to @Brent Harris Blizzard: You and me both...enough is enough..
>
> Sarah Brown
> Reply to @SarahRose Werner: We actually cannot leave whenever we
> want....but, hopefully this will change soon. We should not have to
> live in a police state .
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> SarahRose Werner
> Reply to @David Amos: I left the States because my Canadian girlfriend
> didn't want to move down there. Also, very few of my ancestors were
> already in North America as of 1776. Most of them arrived in the 19th
> and early 20th centuries.
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> Paul Estey
> Reply to @Sarah Brown: a police state???? Maybe you should understand
> exactly the type of virus we are fighting here and how this so called
> ¨Police State¨ is in place to keep as many people healthy and
> alive.....If you cant understand the concept of ¨Isolation¨ and how it
> will help us at this time, move to the US where they are basically
> playing the ¨Herd Immunity¨ card....
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> Mary Smith
> Reply to @Paul Estey: It's sort of the equivalent of not bothering to
> put of a wildfire, but instead letting the whole forest burn thinking
> it will prevent future forest fires - but maybe it won't, because herd
> immunity isn't proven yet - so maybe by letting the fire run wild it
> will just continue to burn for the second wave, and the third, and so
> on.
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> Sarah Brown
> Reply to @Paul Estey: I am very well aware of the type of virus thta
> COVID 19 is. What many people have oct sight of is that our civil
> liberties have been eroded day by day with the ongoing restrictions
> with little in the way of checks and balances for those imposing these
> restrictions. It is beyond my comprehension that so few people seem to
> think that this is acceptable when it is completely unacceptable.
>
> David Amos
> Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Methinks you forgot to ask me if I cared
> after you witnessed many of my words go "Poof" N'esy Pas?
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> Bruce Sanders
> Reply to @Brent Harris Blizzard: LOL, good share!
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> David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
> Replying to @DavidRayAmos @alllibertynews and 49 others
>
> Methinks the many liberals who dealt with Parliament on May 16th, 2016
> would agree that Higgy's ban on temporary foreign workers is purely
> political in nature N'esy Pas?
>
> https://davidraymondamos3.
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> #nbpoli #cdnpoli
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> https://www.cbc.ca/news/
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>
> N.B. COVID-19 roundup: Distance learning plan coming, also aimed at
> future school disruptions
> There are no active cases of COVID-19 in New Brunswick
> CBC News · Posted: May 04, 2020 11:54 AM AT
>
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>
> Hello David,
>
> In response to the COVID emergency, provincial and municipal
> governments have made several orders that violate the Canadian Charter
> of Rights and Freedoms, and the International Covenant on Civil and
> Political Rights. It is the Ontario Libertarian Parties position that
> all Canadian citizens and permanent residents have the right to travel
> and to work during the current COVID crisis and these rights are
> guaranteed by existing law. These existing laws need to be enforced
> and penalties for violations of the law by government needs to be
> increased. As such, we are calling for:
>
> 1) the immediate repeal of all government orders that violate the
> charter, the UN covenant, and the quarantine act, and
>
> 2) The introduction of administrative penalties against politicians
> and government employees who enact or enforce any order that violates
> the charter or the covenant.
>
> Since 1988, the declaration of an emergency does not authorize any
> government to override the charter or the covenant. From the pre-amble
> to the Emergencies Act:
>
> "AND WHEREAS the Governor in Council, in taking such special temporary
> measures, would be subject to the Canadian Charter of Rights and
> Freedoms and the Canadian Bill of Rights and must have regard to the
> International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, particularly
> with respect to those fundamental rights that are not to be limited or
> abridged even in a national emergency;"
>
> 28(d)(i) of the Quarantine Act authorizes the federal government to
> detain people travelling to Canada from other countries if they have
> reasonable grounds to believe they are sick, or if they refuse to
> cooperate. They can order you to get assessed by a medical
> professional and place you in quarantine. But they do not have the
> authority to quarantine healthy people as they have done by ordering a
> 14 day manditory quarantine for all people returning from other
> countries.
>
> 28(1)(d) A quarantine officer may detain any traveller who the
> quarantine officer has reasonable grounds to believe has or might have
> a communicable disease or is infested with vectors, or has recently
> been in close proximity to a person who has or might have a
> communicable disease or is infested with vectors, and is capable of
> infecting other people;
>
> Section 6(2) of the charter guarantees your right to move and to work
> in Canada. The current restrictions on travel to secondary residences,
> travel within Canada are a violation of your charter rights as a
> Canadian citizen. Ordering the closure of “non-essential businesses”
> and the resultant laying off of “non-essential workers” are a
> violation of your rights by the government:
>
> (2) Every citizen of Canada and every person who has the status of a
> permanent resident of Canada has the right:
>
> 1.to move to and take up residence in any province; and
>
>
> 2.to pursue the gaining of a livelihood in any province.
>
>
> Article 12(1) of the International Covenant on Civil and Political
> Rights also guarantees our right to move within Canada and to choose
> our own residence. The lockdown and stay at home orders violate your
> civil rights and should be repealled immediately.
>
> 1. Everyone lawfully within the territory of a State shall, within
> that territory, have the right to liberty of movement and freedom to
> choose his residence.
>
> Some defenders of government COVID overreach claim that the
> not-withstanding clause can be invoked and that the lockdown is
> justified. Please refer to R v Oakes which sets out the conditions the
> government must follow to invoke the not-withstanding clause.
>
> 1) the measures adopted must be carefully designed to achieve the
> objective in question. They must not be arbitrary, unfair or based on
> irrational considerations. In short, they must be rationally connected
> to the objective;
>
> 2) the means, even if rationally connected to the objective in this
> first sense, should impair "as little as possible" the right or
> freedom in question;
>
> 3) Third, there must be a proportionality between the effects of the
> measures which are responsible for limiting the Charter right or
> freedom, and the objective which has been identified as of "sufficient
> importance".
>
> The quarantining of healthy uninfected people does not prevent the
> spread of communicable diseases. It is only reasonable to quarantine
> sick people.
>
> The theory of “flattening the curve” is an unproven hypothesis based
> on models rather than facts. There are many reasons to doubt the
> validity of these models and emerging data is showing that districts
> that remained economically open have similar death rates to regions
> that banned work and travel. An unproven methodology should never have
> been tried on such a large scale.
>
> The government has assumed and is using models that assume that
> individuals and companies will not privately and voluntarily choose to
> take reasonable actions to prevent the spread of COVID, they went
> straight to coercion without even considering voluntary action.
>
> The government has made several irrational, unfair and arbitrary
> orders. For example:
>
> 1.The closure of public spaces and parks but not Walmart or grocery stores
>
>
> 2.Walking is allowed in public parks but not standing, rollerblading
> or bicycling
>
>
> 3.The banning of the use of motor boats as a means of transportation
> but not kayaks or canoes
>
>
> 4.People can travel and go grocery shopping in other communities but
> cannot access their secondary residences in those same communities
>
>
> The government has not considered the increase in death rates from
> heart disease, suicide, and other chronic health conditions caused by
> the economic lockdown, which are substantial.
>
> The government initially justified its lockdown by claiming that ICU
> capacity would be overwhelmed, however this has not come to pass. Many
> hospitals are operating at 50%-70% of capacity at the peak of this
> epidemic. Despite this, the government refuses to loosen its
> restrictions on our economic freedom.
>
> The Ontario Libertarian Party remains the only political party that
> supports your right to live and work while taking voluntary
> precautions to protect yourself and others against viral infections.
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> From: Premier of Ontario | Premier ministre de l’Ontario
> < Premier@ontario.ca>
> Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 12:59:42 +0000
> Subject: Automatic reply: Methinks Canadian Constitution Foundation
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> fire N'esy Pas?
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
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> From: "Anderson-Mason, Andrea Hon. (JAG/JPG)" <Andrea.AndersonMason@gnb.ca>
> Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 12:59:42 +0000
> Subject: Automatic reply: Methinks Canadian Constitution Foundation
> should and Ontario Libertarian Party should get along like a house on
> fire N'esy Pas?
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
> Thank you for your email. Your thoughts, comments and input are greatly
> valued.
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> Replying to @DavidRayAmos @alllibertynews and 49 others
> "Content disabled"
> Methinks Higgy et al must be curious if I saved all the comments
> before they went ""Poof" N'esy Pas?
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> Quispamsis student braves COVID-19 in cross-Canada trek to tree
> planting job in B.C.
> Jacob Delaquis, 21, surprised to find only 2 border 'check-ups'
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> David Amos
> Methinks the RCMP running amuck in Higgy's Police State would be wise
> not to harass me any further as I return to the emergency room for
> more tests under my Doctor's' orders N'esy Pas?
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> David Amos
> Content disabled
> Methinks Higgy et al must be curious if I saved all the comments
> before they went ""Poof" N'esy Pas?
> Survey Says?
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> David Amos
> Methinks some folks must have heard this political science student at
> the University of Montreal talking on Information Morning in Fat Fred
> City today N'esy Pas?
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> David Amos
> Methinks Higgy et al know why Jacob Delaquis quite likely did not vote
> for me in the last election N'esy Pas?
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> David Amos
> Reply to @Tom Bambadil: Ask Higgy
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> BruceJack Speculator
> would that be the same reason 7000 or more others did not vote for U
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> Harvey York
> Reply to @BruceJack Speculator: hahahahaha...awesome
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> David Amos
> Reply to @Harvey York: So you say
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> David Amos
> Reply to @BruceJack Speculator: Say Hey to Higgy and your buddy Tom
> Bambadil for me will Ya?
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> Harvey York
> Reply to @David Amos: actually, yes I did say. You can't fool the fine
> folks of Fundy Royal, or the rest of New Brunswick for that matter,
> N'esy Pas?
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> David Amos
> Reply to @Harvey York: Methinks you should ask yourself who is fooling
> who Higgy and your buddy Tom Bambadil or the RCMP in Fundy Royal who
> have had the wiretap tapes since 2004 N'esy Pas?
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> Ray Oliver
> Reply to @David Amos: The only votes you got must've been the fellas
> in your wing of the N u t House N'esy Pas? The same crowd that
> believes cows get killed by laser beams
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> Harvey York
> Reply to @David Amos: Oh well that changes everything! If the people
> had of known about those darn wiretaps and spent more time reading
> your conspiracy theory blogs and followed along intently to all of
> your failed lawsuits, then maybe, just maybe, the 7000 or so folks who
> didn't vote for you might have been reduced to a mere 6095 or so.
> P.S. - I don't know any Tom Bambadil
> P.P.S. - please don't sue me
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> David Amos
> Reply to @Ray Oliver: Methinks everybody can that you are back with
> different ID N'esy Pas the former Mr Jones etc etc etc ?
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> Harvey York
> Reply to @Ray Oliver: Go easy now Ray, there's a high probability
> he'll try to sue you now
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> Ray Oliver
> Reply to @Harvey York: He has. Old news. He thinks I'm some lawyer guy
> he did try to sue. And a cop. And Higgys buddy. And now that you throw
> him a little shot I jump in on just wait we will be best buddies
> working against him too. Same old game with this w h a c k o
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> Ray Oliver
> Reply to @Harvey York: Sorry he's threatened to sue. It's all achieved
> in his clearly legible blog he refers too
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> Harvey York
> Reply to @Ray Oliver: Not here to work against anybody, I like to read
> constructive debates and opinions...not the "off your rocker" stuff
> that he continually regurgitates. After a while though it's like
> driving past a car wreck...you don't want to look but you can't help
> yourself
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> Ray Oliver
> Reply to @Harvey York: Couldnt have said it better lol
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> David Amos
> Reply to @Harvey York: Methinks the RCMP et al now know that you are
> way past too late N'esy Pas?
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> David Amos
> Reply to @Harvey York: "P.S. - I don't know any Tom Bambadil"
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> Methinks the RCMP and everybody else in the know knows your buddy
> pretending to be a RCMP dude by the name of Ray Oliver was Tom
> Bambadil earlier within this thread and many others N'esy Pas?
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> Ray Oliver
> Reply to @David Amos: Too funny. The edibles are hitting hard today it
> seems. You think I run multiple accounts when this one works just fine
> for what I want it for. Lol
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> David Amos
> Reply to @Ray Oliver: Methinks the RCMP is well aware that desperate
> people do make desperate claims N'esy Pas?
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> David Amos
> Reply to @Ray Oliver: BTW Your Methinks Higgy's RCMP buddies should at
> least be decent enough to verify that I don't do dope or drink beer be
> it legal or not N'esy Pas?
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> Ray Oliver
> Reply to @David Amos: I'd at least claim I did if I were you maybe as
> an excuse for the gibberish that spews daily. Think about it.
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> David Amos
> Reply to @Ray Oliver: There is no need to try to change the simple truth.
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> David Amos
> Methinks Higgy et al cannot deny that they know that the Public Record
> of my concerns about the actions of the RCMP against me goes back
> to1982 which was long before he was a wannabe CoR Party Leader or the
> lawyer McKenna dreamed that he would become a Premier N'esy Pas?
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> David Amos
> Reply to @Ray Oliver: Further Mr Pretend Constable how to you explain
> my having so many wiretap tapes of the mob that your RCMP buddies have
> refused to investigate since 2004 particularly after 3 Justices of the
> Federal Court of Appeal admitted I filed one in the public record of
> their docket years ago and then discussed it with me on the RECORD
> while 2 members of the RCMP sat in the peanut gallery behind me and
> three of friends bore witness to it all two of whom later ran for
> public office against Higgy et al?
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> Ray Oliver
> Reply to @David Amos: Pretend Constable. I like it. Sarcasm is a
> concept that's above your room temperature IQ isnt it
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> David Amos
> Reply to @Ray Oliver: Methinks the RCMP are not laughing at your
> malicious nonsense because its against the law to pretend to be a cop
> N'esy Pas?
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> Ray Oliver
> Reply to @David Amos: You Google everyones name on here that
> challenges you. World class detective work David keep it up the RCMP
> may hire you yet.
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> Ray Oliver
> Reply to @David Amos: Your buddies in the RCMP are smart enough to
> know I know nothing of any Ray Oliver a cop and if you dig hard enough
> on Google you'll discover why i run with it as a handle.. dork
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> David Amos
> Reply to @Ray Oliver: Methinks there is no need for you to Google
> anything My Tweets are making you and your buddy Higgy rather infamous
> N'esy Pas?
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> David Amos
> Reply to @Ray Oliver: Methinks the RCMP already know who you really
> are N'esy Pas?
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> David Amos
> Reply to @Ray Oliver: FYI Its Mr Amos to you BTW the RCMP did hire me
> to investigate things back in the early 80s.
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> David Amos
> Reply to @Harvey York: "If the people had of known about those darn
> wiretaps and spent more time reading your conspiracy theory blogs"
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> Methinks I would rather know what YOU thought of the wiretap tapes N'esy
> Pas?
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> David Amos
> Reply to @David Amos: Methinks Higgy et al and everybody else knows
> that Harvey is a town in York County N'esy Pas?
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> Ray Oliver
> Reply to @David Amos: Niiiice catch Sherlock.
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> David Amos
> Reply to @Ray Oliver: Methinks the Minister of Public Safety Carl
> Urquhart and his cop cohorts figured out it is in his riding after
> Dominic Cardy quit sharing the butter tarts with them N'esy Pas?
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> David Amos
> Content disabled
> Reply to @Ray Oliver: More importantly I truly believe that you "Cst
> Oliver" and your buddy "Sgt York" are just two more corrupt cops
> harassing me for the benefit of Higgy et al and your beloved Police
> State
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> David Amos
> Reply to @David Amos: BINGO
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> David Amos
> Reply to @Ray Oliver: "If you dig hard enough on Google you'll
> discover why i run with it as a handle.. dork "
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> Methinks the Crown should check the rules of this forum that the
> taxpayers are funding N'esy Pas?
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> BruceJack Speculator
> Hard to believe all the negative attitudes towards a young person
> making an effort to take care of himself. Some people seem to believe
> being negative in a warped way makes them seem important.
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> David Amos
> Reply to @BruceJack Speculator: Methinks you should review your own
> words against me It should be a small wonder to Higgy et al that you
> don't use a real name N'esy Pas?
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> SarahRose Werner
> "the pay in B.C. is more than double" - This is why we can't get
> people to work on farms and fish processing plants in New Brunswick.
> The people who could do the work get paid more to plant trees in BC.
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> David Amos
> Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Methinks you hero Higgy knows that Its not
> rocket science to understand why many of our young folks have gone
> west since the great depression before WW2 N'esy Pas?
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> David Amos
> Reply to @Tom Bambadil: Yea Right
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> Johnny Almar
> Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Well JD Irving can't bring in foreigners
> so now they have to up the pay to compete.
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> Right! Who am I kidding? In my mind, they will probably get the
> government to submit to their requests soon enough. Will they play the
> "If we don't get our way we will close a mill" card?
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> It's tough and grueling work, but it sounds like he has the right
> mindset for it and he knows what he's getting into, having done it
> before. Be safe, stay healthy and have a great summer.
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> David Amos
> Reply to @Tom Bambadil: Methinks you must work for the Irving Clan N'esy
> Pas?
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> David Amos
> Reply to @Tom Bambadil: Why is it that I am not laughing?
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> David Amos
> Reply to @Tom Bambadil: No its because you are the same little evil
> dude who has been harassing me with a brand new ID
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> David Amos
> Reply to @Tom Bambadil Methinks everybody should wonder why you went
> "Poof" so fast N'esy Pas?
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> David Amos
> Reply to @David Amos: Methinks it was kinda obvious why I was not
> surprised N'esy Pas?
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> Tom Bombadil is a character in J. R. R. Tolkien's legendarium. He
> first appeared in print in a 1934 poem called The Adventures of Tom
> Bombadil, which also included the Lord of the Rings characters ..
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> Billy Joe Mcallister
> My nephew has done this for years and did it again this year. It's
> very much a non news story
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> Michael G. L. Geraldson
> Reply to @Billy Joe Mcallister:
> The "news" part about it that he's doing it in the middle of a
> pandemic with widespread restrictions across the country which he's
> trying to adapt to. Hopefully your nephew is doing the same.
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> Billy Joe Mcallister
> Reply to @Michael G. L. Geraldson: He's been there for a while
> now....weeks. He is very self sufficient and has travelled to many
> places in the world> I am quite confident that he would do whatever
> was necessary to make the journey
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> David Amos
> Reply to @Billy Joe Mcallister: " It's very much a non news story"
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> Oh So True
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> Gerry Ferguson
> Makes it sound like it's supposed to be dangerous to drive by yourself
> in a car. I don't get it. This histeria is nuts.
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> Tom Campbell
> Reply to @Gerry Ferguson: He's not going to deive to BC without
> getting out of his car for a variety of reasons. Fuel, food,
> accomodations, bathroom. Over 4000 miles, just think for a moment in
> the middle of a pandemic. Think about if you are able to.
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> Michael G. L. Geraldson
> Reply to @Gerry Ferguson:
> Maybe you should ask some of the families of the hundreds of thousands
> worldwide who have lost loved ones if a certain amount of "hysteria"
> is justified or not.
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> James Smith
> Reply to @Michael G. L. Geraldson: People die everyday, in Africa,
> Syria, and all over the world for non-pandemic related causes. You
> only pretend to care because this time it's Caucasian Canadians, some
> of whom you might be distantly related to. Welcome to 50% of the
> world's reality, who live on $3/day, with no infrastructure, clean
> water, septic, or health care access. Covid is the great equalizer.
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> Michael G. L. Geraldson
> Reply to @James Smith:
> You don't know me and shouldn't judge me. Just for the record, I care
> because this week I lost my best friend, and last week I lost my
> brother. Maybe if it hits closer to home you'll care a bit more too,
> although I don't wish that on you or anybody else.
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> David Amos
> Reply to @Gerry Ferguson: BINGO
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> Beverley Kernan
> Reply to @Michael G. L. Geraldson:
> I am very sorry for your sad losses.
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> Norman Hall
> Good luck, Jacob. I followed much the same path when I was 21 years
> old, only without a car or a job waiting. My father told me to go to a
> sawmill and tell them I was from the Maritimes. I did just that and
> had a job the same day l arrived in BC, also at three times the pay
> that I was making in NB. There is no bad time for an adventure if you
> do it responsibly, as this young man is doing.
>
> David Amos
> Reply to @Norman Hall: My Uncle Raymond did the Hobo thing and rode
> the trains out west during the depression before the war to help
> harvest wheat He saved his money but on the way back the other Hobos
> rolled him and even took his coat so he landed back home in the
> Maritimes with less than he left with in he first place.
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> Marguerite Deschamps
> Truckers as essential workers are on the road most of the time. This
> young man is travelling once to go and once to get back and he's going
> to be confined in the woods. So what's the big deal. Who says the
> youths of today are afraid of hard work? Go west young man! And all
> the best!
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>
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> David Amos
> Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks you should have went with the
> young wannabe political scientist You could have educated him about
> the SANB on the way N'esy Pas?
>
>
> Marguerite Deschamps
> Reply to @David Amos: He's attending l'Université de Montréal. I'm
> sure we could converse en français.
>
> David Amos
> Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks yiou SANB dudes should
> understand why I suggested it it More importantly the wannabe
> political scientist lives in Higgy's riding and I doubt he voted for
> Higgy either N'esy Pas?
>
> David Amos
> Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks much to Higgy's chagrin its
> taught in political science 101 who to approach in order to be lined
> up to be a parliamentary guide in Ottawa N'esy Pas?
>
> Marguerite Deschamps
> Reply to @David Amos: Hard to deny the patronage David. It's part of
> human nature.
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> Jim Calvert
> Did something similar in 1977, but I had a 1962 Buick Le Sabre so I
> could sleep across the back seat. Good to see the generation coming up
> is not afraid of a little adventure. Stay Safe.
>
> David Amos
> Reply to @Jim Calvert: I owned two 1962 Buicks in my life they were
> both Invicta models One was owned by Colin B MacKay the former boss of
> UNB
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Man pleads guilty to violating ban on travel to N.B., to be flown back to Ontario
Daniel Arefi's father said misunderstanding led officials to believe his son just wanted to visit
CBC News · Posted: May 08, 2020 10:00 AM AT
A 19-year-old Toronto man is being held in custody after trying to enter the province through the Moncton airport Thursday night. (Photo: Shane Magee/CBC News)
A 19-year-old man was flown back to Ontario after he pleaded guilty to violating New Brunswick's emergency measures order prohibiting visitors from entering the province.
Daniel Arefi pleaded guilty after he was ticketed and then arrested Thursday evening after landing at the Moncton airport.
Arefi appeared in provincial court Friday morning, where he entered the plea by phone from Codiac Regional RCMP holding cells.
Provincial court Judge Luc Labonté ordered him to be driven to Fredericton on Friday by provincial peace officers and placed on an afternoon flight back to Toronto. He was also fined the minimum $292.50 for violating the province's Emergency Measures Act.
Crown prosecutor Maurice Blanchard outlined the facts of the case after Arefi consulted with duty counsel Bernadette Richard.
A 19-year-old Toronto man is being held in custody after trying to enter the province through the Moncton airport Thursday night. (Photo: Shane Magee/CBC News)
A 19-year-old man was flown back to Ontario after he pleaded guilty to violating New Brunswick's emergency measures order prohibiting visitors from entering the province.
Daniel Arefi pleaded guilty after he was ticketed and then arrested Thursday evening after landing at the Moncton airport.
Arefi appeared in provincial court Friday morning, where he entered the plea by phone from Codiac Regional RCMP holding cells.
Provincial court Judge Luc Labonté ordered him to be driven to Fredericton on Friday by provincial peace officers and placed on an afternoon flight back to Toronto. He was also fined the minimum $292.50 for violating the province's Emergency Measures Act.
Crown prosecutor Maurice Blanchard outlined the facts of the case after Arefi consulted with duty counsel Bernadette Richard.
It's time not to be selfish.- Provincial court Judge Luc Labonté
The prosecutor said Arefi was stopped by peace officers stationed at the Moncton airport to screen incoming passengers because of the pandemic.
He was questioned about why he was coming to New Brunswick and told them he was visiting the province.
Blachard said his travel was deemed non-essential, and he was ordered to self-isolate at a hotel and board the next flight back to Ontario on Sunday.
"Officers tried to convince him to comply for about four hours ... but he did not want to," Blanchard said. He was arrested at about 6:55 p.m. for violating the state of emergency.
Arefi declined to say anything when given the chance during the brief sentencing hearing.
"It's time not to be selfish," Labonté told Arefi. "It's time to be community-minded, and you're not."
Labonté warned that if Arefi returned to the province during the pandemic he'd likely send him to jail for 90 days.
"He decided to resolve his matter and we're just very happy that it worked out well as it did," Richard said in an interview outside court.
Bernadette Richard, who represented Daniel Arefi on Friday as duty counsel, said the man decided to resolve the matter. (Pierre Fournier/CBC)
The man's father had offered a different version of why his son was coming to New Brunswick.
Arefi, who lost his job as a barber because of COVID-19, had been persuaded by his parents to move to the province, according to his father, who lives in Moncton.
Hossein Arefi said he had rented an apartment for his son to self-isolate in and hoped he would start a business after that.
But when Daniel arrived at the Moncton airport on Thursday, he was asked the purpose of his visit and answered that he was visiting his parents. There was no mention of a plan to move to the province during the court appearance nor in the facts of the case.
This was deemed an insufficient reason for entering New Brunswick, which, with some exceptions, is not letting anyone in who doesn't live in the province.
People who don't meet the provincial guidelines have to go back, at their own expense. Another passenger who was on Daniel's flight was also ordered back to Toronto.
A misunderstanding
But Hossein Arefi said his son's answer about the purpose of his visit was a misunderstanding, since Daniel plans to live in New Brunswick."He replied, 'I'm visiting my parents,'" the father told Information Morning Moncton on Friday.
"Because he used the word 'I'm visiting' they considered him as a visitor. And they said that it will be considered as an unnecessary traveller."
Hossein Arefi said he had documentation showing that an apartment had been rented so Daniel could self-isolate for 14 days, a requirement for anyone entering the province.
Hossein Arefi, the father of Daniel Arefi, says his son was trying to move to New Brunswick. (Shane Magee/CBC)
But the peace officers at the airport told Daniel to go to a hotel for three nights, at his own expense, and wait for the next available flight to Toronto, which is Sunday.
Daniel refused and was handcuffed and detained.
Arefi said it should have been clear his son was planning on moving to the province.
"He came with a one-way ticket and three bags filled with his stuff … to come and live in Moncton," the father said.
Richard, the lawyer who represented Arefi, said she had "no knowledge" of the father's assertion that Arefi was moving to Moncton.
Premier Blaine Higgs says he doesn't have all of the details of what happened, but called it a 'most unfortunate situation.' (Ed Hunter/CBC)
Premier Blaine Higgs was asked about the case during a news conference Friday. He said he wasn't aware of all of the details, but called it "a most unfortunate situation."
He said the province isn't turning away people who are moving to New Brunswick, like students returning from university.
"I'll be interested to learn all the details," Higgs said. "Anyone knows we're restricting people coming in at the border. So it has to be very clear that you're coming here for a purpose. A visitation is not one of those purposes."
He did say that people who are moving to New Brunswick from other provinces are being allowed in, but that people have also said different things once told they can't enter.
"I can tell you that when people are turned away, it does happen from time to time that they assert a different purpose," said Comeau.
"So sometimes people say that they're coming to visit somebody and then when they find out that that's not going to be permitted, the story changes and they say that they have some other purpose."
With files from Information Morning Moncton and Shane Magee
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