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According to Palango's unnamed sources, the investigator, Dwayne King, used to be close to Bill Blair when he was chief of police in Toronto,
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dY7Kt9zOFQQ
the Nova Scotia Mass Shooting - Aug 7, 2022 - with Paul Palango
https://www.cbc.ca/books/22-murders-by-paul-palango-1.6496217
22 Murders by Paul Palango
Paul Palango
As
news broke of a killer rampaging across the tiny community of
Portapique, Nova Scotia, late on April 18, 2020, details were oddly hard
to come by. Who was the killer? Why was he not apprehended? What were
police doing? How many were dead? And why was the gunman still on the
loose the next morning and killing again? The RCMP was largely silent
then, and continued to obscure the actions of denturist Gabriel Wortman
after an officer shot and killed him at a gas station during a chance
encounter.
Though retired as an investigative journalist and
author, Paul Palango spent much of his career reporting on Canada's
troubled national police force. Watching the RCMP stumble through the
Portapique massacre, only a few hours from his Nova Scotia home, Palango
knew the story behind the headlines was more complicated and damning
than anyone was willing to admit. With the COVID-19 lockdown sealing off
the Maritimes, no journalist in the province knew the RCMP better than
Palango did. Within a month, he was back in print and on the radio,
peeling away the layers of this murderous episode as only he could, and
unearthing the collision of failure and malfeasance that cost a quiet
community 22 innocent lives. (From Random House Canada)
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2022 15:11:37 -0400
Subject: Fwd: RE My calls and emails about Federal and provincial
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From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2021 14:32:30 -0300
Subject: RE My calls and emails about Federal and provincial
governments plan to hold public inquiry into Nova Scotia mass
shootings
To: "barbara.massey" <barbara.massey@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "barb.whitenect"
<barb.whitenect@gnb.ca>, "Brenda.Lucki" <Brenda.Lucki@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>,
"hugh.flemming" <hugh.flemming@gnb.ca>, "Bill.Blair"
<Bill.Blair@parl.gc.ca>, jpink@pinklarkin.com, andrew
<andrew@frankmagazine.ca>, andrewjdouglas <andrewjdouglas@gmail.com>,
jesse <jesse@viafoura.com>, jesse <jesse@jessebrown.ca>,
"steve.murphy" <steve.murphy@ctv.ca>,
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tim <tim@halifaxexaminer.ca>, zane@halifaxexaminer.ca,
media@masscasualtycommission.
https://www.saltwire.com/cape-
N.S. Mass Casualty Commission to announce participants in Portapique probe
Chris Lambie · Posted: April 30, 2021, 4:43 p.m.
Investigators want to hear from anyone who can shed light on the
events of April 18-19, 2020, says the release. “If you or someone you
know wants to get in touch with the investigations team, please
contact Joel.Kulmatycki at 902-394-3501 or
Joel.Kulmatycki@
https://www.saltwire.com/cape-
'I have no idea who to trust anymore': card raises independence
questions about Nova Scotia's Mass Casualty Commission
Chris Lambie · Posted: May 5, 2021, 6:46 p.m.
https://atlantic.ctvnews.ca/
'We have got to have someplace to put our trust': High expectations
for the Mass Casualty Commission
Heidi Petracek 2016
Heidi Petracek
CTV News Atlantic Reporter
Published Friday, June 4, 2021 7:28PM ADT
https://www.canadaland.com/
CANADALAND
#372 The RCMP’s Portapique Narrative Is Falling Apart
Frank Magazine publisher Andrew Douglas and reporter Paul Palango
discuss their bombshell story, and what the RCMP may still be hiding
about Gabriel Wortman.
http://davidraymondamos3.
Wednesday, 29 July 2020
Federal and provincial governments to hold public inquiry into Nova
Scotia mass shootings
https://twitter.com/
David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos
Methinks lots of folks may enjoy what Peter Mac Issac and his cohorts
said while the RCMP and a lot of LIEbranos were stuttering and
doubletalking bigtime N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.
#nbpoli #cdnpoli
https://www.youtube.com/watch?
Citizens Rise Against Corruption in Trudeau Government
58,732 views
Streamed live on Jul 27, 2020
Laura-Lynn Tyler Thompson
Citizens Rise Against Corruption in Trudeau Government - Peter Mac Issac
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From: Peter Mac Isaac <prmibullrun@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 21:42:20 -0300
Subject: Re: RE The "Strike back: Demand an inquiry Event." Methinks
it interesting that Martha Paynter is supported by the Pierre Elliott
Trudeau Foundation N'esy Pas?
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
A lot of info to chew on - every now and then we win one - Today we
won a partial victory when the provincial liberals threw the federal
liberals under the bus forcing their hand . Now the spin will be to
get a judge they can control.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?
Police Corruption? Nova Scotia Shooter - Behind The Scenes
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Streamed live on Jul 28, 2020
Laura-Lynn Tyler Thompson
Nova Scotia Shooter Behind The Scenes with Paul Palango a former
senior editor at The Globe and Mail and author of three books on the
RCMP, the most recent being Dispersing the Fog, Inside the Secret
World of Ottawa and the RCMP. His work on the Nova Scotia massacre has
been published in MacLeans and the Halifax Examiner.
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Subject: RE: RE Lawyers, cops, polticians and journalists etc playig
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From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2022 19:16:50 -0400
Subject: RE Lawyers, cops, polticians and journalists etc playig dumb
about my calls and emails about Federal and provincial governments
plan to hold public inquiry into Nova Scotia mass shootings
To: Roger.Burrill@
josh@chesterlaw.ca, RPineo@pattersonlaw.ca,
smcculloch@pattersonlaw.ca, "Michelle.Boutin"
<Michelle.Boutin@rcmp-grc.gc.
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Deja Vu Anyone???
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> Subject: Re: RE Families of Shooting Victims Disappointed by
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> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 09:53:20 -0300
> Subject: RE Families of Shooting Victims Disappointed by “Independent
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> Families of Shooting Victims Disappointed by “Independent Review”
>
> The “Independent Review” announced by Ministers Furey and Blair is
> wholly insufficient to meet the objectives of providing full and
> transparent answers to the families and the public, identifying
> deficiencies in responses, and providing meaningful lessons to be
> learned to avoid similar future tragedies.
>
> The choices of commissioners, and in particular Former Chief Justice
> Michael MacDonald, were thoughtful and appropriate for an inquiry.
> Former Chief Justice MacDonald is of the highest rank in judicial
> capabilities and is of unassailable integrity. That said, any
> decision- maker can only render decisions based on the information and
> evidence presented to them.
>
> The announced “independent review” model, to be conducted in a
> so-called “non- traumatic” and “restorative” way, will prejudice the
> panel by restricting the evidence and information being presented.
>
> In a public inquiry setting, such as was employed in the Marshall and
> Westray public inquiries, interested parties had the opportunity to
> question the witnesses. It is a very well- held maxim in our common
> law legal tradition, that cross-examination is the most effective
> truth-finding mechanism available. Without proper and thorough
> questioning, the panel will be left with incomplete and untested
> evidence upon which to base its decision. This is completely contrary
> to our Canadian notions of fair and transparent justice.
>
> Most disappointingly, Ministers Furey and Blair have hidden behind
> their contrived notion of a “trauma-free” process to exclude the full
> participation of the families under the guise of protecting them from
> further trauma. This is not how the families wish to be treated.
> Minister Furey has spoken with the families, so he must know that they
> want to participate, not to be “protected” by an incomplete process.
>
> The families want a full and transparent public inquiry. Why will
> Minister Furey not give them this? Why will he not give the citizens
> of Nova Scotia this? “We are all in this together” has been the slogan
> throughout 2020 - the families simply want us all, the public, to be
> in this together now to figure out a better tomorrow for families and
> the Province.
>
> For further inquiries, please contact:
>
> Robert H. Pineo
> 902-405-8177
> rpineo@pattersonlaw.ca
>
>
> Sandra L. McCulloch
> 902-896-6114
> smcculloch@pattersonlaw.ca
>
Here's why B.C. residents need to pay attention to the Mass Casualty Commission in Nova Scotia
This morning, I read an astonishing article by Paul Palango, who's one of Canada's last remaining investigative reporters.
He's the author of four books on the RCMP, including this year's bestselling 22 Murders: Investigating the Massacres, Cover-ups and Obstacles to Justice in Nova Scotia (Penguin Random House Canada).
Palango's recent book, as well as the new piece in Frank Magazine Atlantic, concerned denturist Gabriel Wortman's mass murder of 22 Nova Scotians in April 18 and 19, 2020. At the time of the killings, Wortman was dressed like a Mountie and drove a replica RCMP squad car.
Police did not issue an alert warning the public that a murderer was on the loose.
The 2,600-word article focused a great deal of attention on Wortman's "unusual and even unprecedented withdrawal of $475,000 in $100 bills from the Brink's Security Depot at 19 Ilsey Avenue in the Burnside Industrial Park in Darmouth".
This occurred on March 30, 2020—less than three weeks before Wortman started shooting people.
"That Wortman was able to have money delivered by CIBC Intria to Brinks for pickup was highly irregular and contravened all banking regulations, says a banking insider aware of the CIBC’s set up and protocols," Palango reported.
The article is only available to Frank Atlantic Magazine subscribers. The blurb on the magazine's Facebook page includes the following passage from the article:
“The first rule of banking is that you count out the money in front of the customer,” the banking source said.
“It’s all done in person and is filmed. You can’t let $475,000 walk out the door just like that. That’s everyone’s year end bonus. The money is counted and signed for. If this was Wortman’s personal money, the bank would never send it through Intria and then have the customer pick it up in a pouch without counting it. There’s too much room for error. That just wouldn’t happen. What this all tells me is that they bent the rules for him because it likely wasn’t his personal money."
Later in the piece, Palango cited the RCMP's insistence that Wortman was never a confidential informant or civilian police agent, let alone even a volunteer for the national police force. But then, the author noted that the RCMP covert-operational manual requires that the identity of a source "must be protected at all times".
The only exception is in court, when a Mountie cannot do this. But, as Palango pointed out, the Mass Casualty Commission investigating what happened is not a court.
Meanwhile, the commission's investigator has concluded that the $475,000 was not a payment relating to a confidential informant.
That investigator, Dwayne King, used to be close to Bill Blair when he was chief of police in Toronto, according to Palango's unnamed sources. Blair was the minister of public safety when Wortman went on his murderous rampage.
The commission was established on October 21, 2020 after orders-in-council were issued by the cabinets of the federal and Nova Scotia governments.
Palango's recent article did not address legal liability that might fall upon either government were it ever proven that Wortman was being paid by the Mounties in the period leading up to the murders.
In another piece in this week's Frank Atlantic Magazine, former Halifax talk-show host Rick Howe ripped into the media's failure to delve more deeply into Wortman's past.
"Why isn’t Wortman’s criminal record and his association with a criminal motorcycle gang not part of the MCC inquiry?" Howe asked in the article.
Howe, like Palango, noted that the commission wouldn't even allow victims' lawyers to cross-examine Wortman's longtime companion, Lisa Banfield.
Given the deep penetration of the RCMP in B.C., it's worth paying attention to this story on this side of the country.
Not only does the RCMP have a contract with the B.C. government as the provincial police force, the national police force also has contracts with many local governments to provide municipal police services.
That includes Burnaby, Coquitlam and Port Coquitlam, Richmond, the City and District of North Vancouver, Pitt Meadows and Maple Ridge, Mission, Langley, and Surrey (which is in the process of transitioning to a municipal police force with a former RCMP assistant commissioner as chief).
If it's ever proven that the Mounties lied to a commission of inquiry about having a mass murderer on the payroll—and that the $475,000 sent to Wortman was part of a deal to put him in a witness-protection program—it would stain the national police force's reputation from coast to coast to coast.
This, in turn, would speak volumes about whether the RCMP should be entrusted to police anything in B.C.
And if the Liberal government were involved in any sort of cover-up, that too would be of national interest.
This is why Palango's relentless digging is so important not only to residents of Nova Scotia but to the entire country. (As an aside, I will declare that I have learned more about the RCMP from Palango's three previous nonfiction books than from any other source.)
The time has come for mainstream media, with so many more resources than Palango, to treat the Wortman murders—and the possibility of a police and government cover-up—with the seriousness that they deserve.
"The truth is out there," Howe concluded in his Frank Atlantic Magazine piece. "But is the Nova Scotia media up to the task of unravelling the full story behind this terrible tragedy? Stay tuned. There’s clearly a lot more to learn."
Charlie Smith
Charlie Smith has been editor of the Georgia Straight since 2005. Before that, he was the paper's news editor.
Frank
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From: Bill.Blair@parl.gc.ca
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 08:17:14 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: YO Melanie Joly ans Pablo Rodriguez Methinks
Steven Guilbeault, his buddy Catherine Tait and all your former nasty
minions in CBC must take courses on playing dumb N'esy Pas?
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Chris Leather
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To the member, through the chair, I think it's important to provide some context in the lead up to the call of the 28th.
It was around April 22 that I got a phone call from the commissioner directly requesting the gun “inventory”, for lack of a better term—the list of guns, makes, models and serial numbers. Really, that's when it began for me in terms of this issue, and it was a request that, obviously, I took seriously, coming directly from the commissioner.
That would be out of the norm of communication to a criminal operations officer, but again, under the circumstances, and given the gravity of the situation, it didn't seem completely odd to me because that would be something that would make sense for the commissioner to share within her senior executive committee in Ottawa, the deputy commissioners and equivalents.
It was on April 23 that CO Bergerman and I actually had a conversation with SiRT. SiRT is the serious investigative team that oversees police activity, akin to the SIU here in Ontario for matters where there is a death in police custody or at the hands of police. It was quite clear from our conversation with the SiRT director that we would be allowed to provide a gun inventory to the commissioner so long as it was used within the RCMP—and that was it. That was the agreement and the commitment that we made to the director of SiRT, which I passed along to Ms. Bergerman, which presumably went up to Ottawa.
That's the background on the lead up, and then really for several days, until the 28th, and akin to what Ms. Bergerman said, there was no further discussion on the gun inventory or the speaking notes, or any sense of interest, from my perspective, in the inventory of guns being released publicly, internal to government or otherwise.
I would echo Ms. Bergerman's comments about the surprise that it came up the way it did on the 28th for an issue that I thought had essentially been resolved through obtaining this inventory and passing it along to be used for internal discussion and understanding.
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A civil answer – without political will, the flaws of Canadian policing will never be fixed: Christian Leuprecht in the Globe and Mail
Now, as our society evolves on the issue of systemic racism, its various institutions are working to catch up – including policing. But a historical legacy means there is a wide gap between society and policing on that front – and without meaningful commitment to systematic reform, that gap will continue to grow, writes Christian Leuprecht.
By Christian Leuprecht, July 31, 2020
There is a truism about society: As it evolves, so too does its view of what is right and wrong. Six decades ago, being forced by law to wear a seat belt was unthinkable; six decades earlier, only white men had the vote. Now, as our society evolves on the issue of systemic racism, its various institutions are working to catch up – including policing. But a historical legacy means there is a wide gap between society and policing on that front – and without meaningful commitment to systematic reform, that gap will continue to grow.
Police organizations bear some responsibility for that. Recent police interactions that led to death or injury have made this unequivocally clear, as have Black Lives Matter protests and years of damning reports from national inquiries and internal commissions. In mid-July, the RCMP’s independent watchdog admonished the Mounties’ for repeated “unreasonable use of force.”. Police in Canada are governed by the National Use of Force Framework, which outlines when the use of violence is justified, and the type of force that is justified under specific circumstances, but more training, with an emphasis on de-escalation, is needed to reduce the propensity for violence.
But the responsibility for troubled civil-police relations ultimately lies with politicians. They set the framework, conditions and constraints for police to do their work – and they have set police up for failure.
Governments, after all, are responsible for public services, and increasingly, growing gaps in service delivery are left for police to fill. As a result of dwindling government support for broader social services, officers are often thrust into the role of expensive generalists, forced to take on more non-policing functions as public expectations grow accordingly. A lack of sobering centres, for instance, often means people are held in police cells until they’re no longer intoxicated; a lack of women’s shelters means victims often have to return to situations that are unsafe; a shortage of mental health beds and long wait times mean that police end up doing wellness checks (up to 40 per cent of all police calls now concern mental-health issues). Police intervention during a crisis is not nearly as useful as preventing it altogether, but that requires a wider suite of public sector agencies.
On the one hand, police are sometimes the only representatives of the establishment that remain in certain jurisdictions – and in that scenario, police become the adversary. As a result, with every shift, patrol officers are faced with the risk of imminent violence. That can allow an us-versus-them mentality to fester, which can manifest in racist attitudes, overt acts of violence or excessive force. Concerned about getting hurt, many officers deploy use-of-force to take control of the situation.
On the other hand, true community policing involves close connections and interactions with residents to build trust and credibility. Instead, police patrol in vehicles and are armed with more use-of-force options, which makes their relationship with communities more adversarial. Earlier this year, the OPP and RCMP were both faced with enforcing injunctions – in Tyendinaga in Ontario and in Wet’suwet’en territory in B.C., respectively. In accordance with its Ipperwash Framework, the OPP showed up in civilian attire, made “every effort prior to understand the issues and to protect the rights of all involved parties,” and promoted and developed “strategies that minimize the use of force to the fullest extent possible.” In contrast, the RCMP arrived in paramilitary gear and employed aggressive enforcement tactics – reminiscent of actions previously taken in Kent County, N.B., and High River, Alta. Trust, once lost, is hard to regain.
There is a solution. In fact, between 2007 and 2017, 15 studies and reports on the RCMP alone generated a broad expert consensus on what should be done: civilianization, or allowing non-policing Canadians to occupy senior leadership, management and oversight roles, while uniformed members run operations. This has long been the approach of the civilian-led Australian Federal Police, so why not here? Officers are not inherently business-savvy or steeped in administrative expertise; they learn management and leadership skills within the institution, which means they will manage the way they were managed. As a result, they lack the experience to bring about the change needed to meet the public’s heightened expectations.
Yet police organizations generally drag their feet on civilianization, inoculate themselves from reform and protect their institutional privilege. Exhibit A: The multi-decade predatory reality that culminated in a $100-million settlement for a class-action lawsuit over harassment in the RCMP.
For the RCMP, some of these problems are legacy holdovers from being modelled on the Royal Irish Constabulary, a quintessentially colonial paramilitary paradigm that informed the Dominion’s relationship with Indigenous people. That institutional DNA has many modern manifestations, including in the RCMP’s ubiquitous command-and-control approach and its notorious shortcomings on accountability and transparency; this is learned behaviour, systematically socialized into every recruit. In general, Canada’s police services have an antiquated leadership model, too: new recruits start at the bottom, and work their way up the ladder. This is worrying, since the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians’ 2019 annual report found that resistance to diversity and inclusion is strongest among the ranks of non-commissioned officers (NCOs), from which future uniformed cadres will be drawn.
But structures, mandates, compensation systems and rules governing employment are beyond police organizations’ control. Change requires political leadership at the municipal, provincial and federal levels.
In a democracy, the people should have the right to shape the parameters for police decision-making and service delivery. Yet politicians have shown that time and time again, they prefer to shirk their responsibilities, handing police chiefs and RCMP commissioners considerable discretion until their inevitable missteps, at which point politicians intervene only to replace them in the hopes that maybe this time, they’ve found the right person for the job. But this is the definition of insanity – doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result. Canadians should hold politicians to account. For Indigenous and racialized Canadians, an overhaul of community safety is a long time coming.
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What Happened to Transparency?
By Richard Bell
[Editor’s Note: The Liberals’ commitment to secretive decision-making played a role in their electoral loss. In the PC’s successful campaign, Premier Tim Houston made a commitment to transparency one of his core campaign themes.
We were therefore disappointed when the Houston administration decided in December 2021, to continue supporting the secrecy surrounding the Liberals’ decision to build a new junior/senior high school in the Eastern Shore Industrial Park.
The Liberals’ school decision-making left many unanswered questions which the Cooperator continues to investigate. The previous premier promised a government of transparency when the Liberals won in 2013, but McNeil abandoned his promise once he was in office. The new premier promised to do better.]
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"Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.”
--George Orwell, 1984
Politicians like to claim they’re champions of transparency, until they must deal with actual requests for documents. Nova Scotia’s Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act (FOIPOP) is a toothless law because the Information and Privacy Commissioner cannot force the government to release information.
In his first campaign to become Premier in 2013, Stephen McNeil promised to give the Commissioner order-making power to correct this fatal weakness. But once in office, McNeil changed his mind, leaving government with the power to ignore the findings of the Commissioner.
The new Premier, Tim Houston, has always presented himself as a staunch advocate of transparency in government and a strong critic of the Liberals’ secrecy. In his campaign for Premier, he promised to strengthen the FOIPOP Act by giving the Commissioner order-making power to compel the government to release FOIPOPed documents.
But when presented with an opportunity to reverse one of the McNeil administration’s critical FOIPOP decisions, the Houston administration failed to act in the interest of transparency.
Liberals Hide Document
The PCs’ failure to uphold transparency grew out of the bitter dispute over the Liberal’s 2021 decision to replace both Eastern Shore District High School in Musquodoboit Harbour, and Gaetz Brook Junior High in Gaetz Brook, with a combined junior/senior school to be built in a failed industrial park in East Chezzetcook. This decision involves the largest provincial expenditure in many decades on the Eastern Shore, an estimated $30 million or more, a decision that will affect the lives of these communities for at least the next 50 years.
During this fight, someone filed a FOIPOP asking for a copy of a critical document, a March 2020 technical report by the then Transportation and Infrastructure Renewal Department.
(Requests for FOIPOPs are anonymous.) The very existence of this report was a secret, until the public release of FOIPOP 2020-20456-TIR on January 14, 2021.
But the McNeil administration redacted every single word in the text of this six-page document except the title, a cover sentence, and segment titles. The names of the two sites were redacted. Without this document, it is impossible for the public to determine whether the McNeil administration violated its own new regulations for school site selection.
Houston Hides Same Document
After
Houston’s election, someone filed a new FOIPOP request for the same
document that the McNeil administration redacted in 2020. On October 27,
2021, Houston’s Department of Public Works released FOIPOP
2021-01772-DPW, which contained the same completely redacted document
that the McNeil administration released in FOIPOP 2020-20456-TIR.
I emailed a series of questions to Premier Houston asking why DPW was not observing his commitment to greater transparency. I spoke several times with his press secretary, Catherine Klimek. She told me that the Premier’s office itself was now reviewing the handling of FOIPOP 2021-01772-DPW. But on December 16, 2021, Klimek notified me that after an “all hands on deck” review, they had decided to redact the entire text of the document.
Background Information v. Advice to a Minister
Both administrations invoked two very broad exemptions in the FOIPOP Act, 14(1) and 17(1), to justify redacting every single word in the text. But the law makes a critical distinction between “background information,” to which the public is entitled, and “advice, recommendations or draft regulations developed by or for a public body or a minister,” to which the public is not entitled.
Office of the Information and Privacy Commissioner Investigator Darren White provided a careful explanation of the distinction between “background information” and “advice” in a 10-page September 7, 2021, letter concerning an appeal of the denial of information in a FOIPOP about one of the McNeil administration’s other secretive actions, the delisting and offer to sell Owls Head Provincial Park.
According to White, the drafters of the exemption for “advice” in 14(1) “very clearly sought to protect the process by which decisions are reached within government, as confirmed by the Supreme Court.”
But he then pointed out that the law’s very next section, Section 14 (2), says the government cannot refuse requests for “background information.” (“The head of a public body shall not refuse pursuant to subsection (1) to disclose background information used by the public body.”)
White offered a useful test for how to distinguish between “background information” and “advice.”
The drafters of Section 14 (2), White wrote, “also, and equally clearly, articulated that the background material (objective facts and history) underlying those decisions are not protected from disclosure. A significant part of citizens being able to hold their government to account per s. 2(a) is knowing what objective facts existed at the time a government made a decision. This is why the very next line in s. 14(2) says (emphasis mine): ‘The head of a public body shall not refuse pursuant to subsection (1) to disclose background information used by the public body.’” [These emphases are in White’s letter.]
There may very well have been material in the TIR technical report that qualifies as “advice.”
The "Reasonable" Person Test
In his letter, White’s test is to ask whether a “reasonable” person would agree with the government’s claim that every single word in the text of this report was “advice.”
Here are the titles of the seven blank segments of the report: Site location and Size; General Terrain; Transportation and Accessibility; Hazards, Legal Issues, and Environmental Concerns; Access to Services; Adjacencies; and Cost Factors.
It is “reasonable” to assume that at least some of the words and phrases of this document are “background information”? In what way, for example, would a description of the “General Terrain” of a proposed school site be considered “advice,” as opposed to “background information”?
Both McNeil and Houston also invoked Section 17 (1) to justify redacting the entire text.
Section 17(1) allows “the head of a public body” to withhold “information the disclosure of which could reasonably be expected to harm the financial or economic interests of a public body or the Government of Nova Scotia or the ability of the Government to manage the economy….”
Here again, is it “reasonable” to assume that every single word in the seven sections poses a threat the economy? How could information about the “General Terrain” of a possible school site “reasonably be expected to harm” the province’s economy or the ability of the government to manage the economy?
By invoking sections 14(1) and 17(1), Houston’s administration has done exactly what White specifically warns against—that no administration should be “the sole determiner of what is important to the public and what is not. No part of the act indicates that this is the case.”
So unless the PCs pass a law giving the Information and Privacy Commissioner the power to force the government to release documents, as Premier Houston promised to do during his campaign, the current government (and all future governments) will remain “the sole determiner of what is important to the public and what is not.”
And the public will never know what is so damning in this
document that both the previous Liberal government and the current PC
government redacted every word in the document except the title, an
opening sentence, and the segment titles.
Locked and Loaded: Nova Tactical Continues to Grow
By Jill Bellefontaine
Richard Toulany of Porters Lake is no stranger to the business world. At 14 years old, he started helping out with his parent’s family business, Toulany’s Pizza, in East Chezzetcook. Ten years later and now 24 years old, Toulany is the Owner/Founder of Nova Tactical on Windmill Road, Dartmouth.
It all started for Toulany when he was working for a supply store that sold hunting and fishing gear. “As a salesman I could see there was a high demand for certain gear that wasn’t being carried in store and I saw an opportunity in the space for rent upstairs and went for it,” recalled Toulany, who opened Nova Tactical on his 20th birthday.
But he didn’t stop there. After settling into his store, Toulany later jumped at an opportunity to occupy both levels of the store and add a firearm/archery range called Nova Shooting Centre onto the building. After a year of construction, the newly built ranges are the center of attention at Nova Tactical. There is a spacious lounge area with a pool table, foosball table, TV and sofas, popcorn machine, speed bag, and a phone charging station.
The gun range consists of 9 lanes, including a wheelchair accessible lane. No license is required to shoot at the range and there are a variety of membership packages available as well as packages for non-members. The archery range has 13 lanes.
“I am extremely happy with the success of the range so far, I really wouldn’t have it any other way,” said Toulany. In November, Nova Tactical will have simulators for customers to use. “A simulator is a real firearm with no ammunition,” Toulany explained. “They are CO2 gas powered. They’re essentially for anyone young or old who does not feel comfortable shooting a real firearm.”
Nova Tactical is big on promoting firearm safety. They offer the NFARSO (National Firearms Association Range Safety Officer) course, an in-house holster course, and advanced shooting classes. They also offer bachelor/bachelorette parties, birthday parties, and special shoots for occasions like, Mother’s Day, Father’s Day, Valentine’s Day and more!
Nova Tactical is currently in the process of expanding to a second location in the Halifax area. The second location will also include a firearm/archery range along with the tactical shop. The current projection date for opening is mid-2019. People with memberships to the Dartmouth location will also be able to access the new location when it opens.
https://www.novatactical.ca/contact/
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Brenda Lucki “made a promise” to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and former public safety minister Bill Blair to use the tragic mass shooting to support Liberal Party gun control laws.
Canada's largest mass shooting is quickly morphing into what may be one of the country's largest scandals involving the RCMP and the Liberal government.
That's why Rebel News sent B.C. reporter Drea Humphrey and videographer Lincoln Jay to Nova Scotia to bring you first-hand reports from the official inquiry into the RCMP's response to the tragic event.
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MCC Day 57 – Participants’ Counsel Question Chief Superintendent Leather
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'We failed you': Senior Mountie apologizes to families of mass shooting victims
Chief Supt. Darren Campbell says he promises RCMP will do better
As he broke down, Campbell said it was the first time he has cried in two and a half years.
"I apologize for failing," he said. "I'm truly sorry that we failed you, and I promise that we'll do better."
Campbell testified Monday and Tuesday before the Mass Casualty Commission leading the public inquiry into the rampage on April 18-19, 2020, when a gunman shot and killed 22 people over 13 hours in several communities throughout the province. The victims included a pregnant woman and an RCMP officer.
At the time of the shootings Campbell was the support services officer, which is one of the highest-ranking RCMP positions in the province. He handled most of the public briefings after April 19, 2020, and was in charge of bringing in critical incident resources like incident commanders and the emergency response team.
Campbell's apology seemed genuine and "heartfelt" to at least one man who lost his parents in the mass shooting.
'One of the biggest things I wanted to hear'
Ryan Farrington of Trenton, Ont., said he'd been waiting more than two years to hear the RCMP apologize and take responsibility for what happened.
"It's one of the biggest things I wanted to hear … that 'we messed up,'" Farrington said Wednesday.
"For him to come out and say that in the position that he's in, being a senior officer still, I can truly appreciate that. And that meant a lot to me."
Farrington's mother, Dawn Madsen, and stepfather, Frank Gulenchyn, were killed by the gunman in their Portapique home the night of April 18.
After Campbell's apology, Farrington said he met with the senior Mountie Tuesday afternoon. He said he told Campbell his family was thankful for him openly "admitting the guilt" and saying sorry.
Ryan Farrington, who lost his mother Dawn Madsen and stepfather Frank Gulenchyn in the Nova Scotia mass shooting, speaks to reporters outside the public inquiry in Halifax on July 27, 2022. (Robert Short/CBC)
When asked whether he forgives Campbell and the RCMP, Farrington said he does still "struggle" with that.
"I forgive Mr. Campbell," he said. "As for the RCMP, I still think there needs to be work. They need to show that changes are being made in order for me to move forward, and trust the RCMP again and to forgive the entire RCMP community."
Chief Commissioner Michael MacDonald had one question for Campbell — something he said he has been struggling to wrap his head around. He wanted to know why RCMP members didn't find the bodies of five victims on Cobequid Court in Portapique, including the Tuck and Bond families, until the evening of April 19, 2020.
"Why was it that in your experience, and you've reviewed it all if you can help me understand, how it came to be that the priority for the threat seemed to have overwhelmed what was going on in Portapique?"
Campbell said he wasn't on the ground that day and could only speak based on his experience of more than 30 years.
"My experience is based on one or two scenes, not 16 scenes," he said. "In terms of the scope and enormity of the situation and the confusion that the perpetrator caused … to establish the fraction of awareness of the scope and magnitude would've taken some time."
Twenty-two
people died on April 18 and 19, 2020. Top row from left: Gina Goulet,
Dawn Gulenchyn, Jolene Oliver, Frank Gulenchyn, Sean McLeod, Alanna
Jenkins. Second row: John Zahl, Lisa McCully, Joey Webber, Heidi
Stevenson, Heather O'Brien and Jamie Blair. Third row from top: Kristen
Beaton, Lillian Campbell, Joanne Thomas, Peter Bond, Tom Bagley and Greg
Blair. Bottom row: Emily Tuck, Joy Bond, Corrie Ellison and Aaron Tuck.
(CBC)
Campbell said he "wasn't trying to make an excuse" but he does have some level of understanding of the pressure for members who were responding that day.
"I don't know if anyone else from that investigative team had experienced anything like this — I doubt that they ever had," he said.
"It's clear to me that many feel their efforts of trying their best was not enough. I would've hoped to have seen that we would've identified those additional crime scenes much, much earlier."
Campbell said there are many reasons to secure a crime scene as soon as possible. Besides informing families, he said it's also important to preserve evidence.
Other issues raised
During his testimony across Monday and Tuesday, Campbell agreed there were gaps that ideally should not have happened, which is one of the reasons he asked RCMP headquarters for an independent review into the force's actions across April 18 and 19, 2020.
He wrote a formal letter asking for this review, but Campbell said he got the sense Ottawa was wondering whether a review would be duplicating efforts of the Mass Casualty Commission.
Rob Pineo, a lawyer with Patterson Law representing most families, suggested it would have been helpful to interview Portapique resident Kate MacDonald, who was shot at by the gunman but wasn't injured — unlike her husband, Andrew, who was taken to hospital and survived.
Pineo said officers could have asked Kate MacDonald more about the possible back road out of Portapique, which is the way the commission suggested the gunman escaped before 11 p.m. AT on April 18, 2020.
"I agree, yes," Campbell said.
The gunman's replica RCMP cruiser that was used in the N.S. mass shooting was created with a decommissioned 2017 Ford Taurus. (Mass Casualty Commission)
He was also asked about why police did not comprehend the possibility that the gunman was driving an exact replica of a RCMP cruiser, despite witnesses describing it as having lights and stripes within the first hour of the massacre.
Campbell said what likely happened was human nature, and "bias" created through experience, since a replica car would be so unrealistic. In the future, he said it would be helpful for dispatchers, call takers and RCMP members to all share the exact quotes from witnesses when there is confusion, so details aren't filtered through various interpretations like a game of telephone.
Also, once the mock cruiser was confirmed, Campbell said Tuesday he would have liked for the public to have been notified about it sooner.
The inquiry has heard that despite photos of the gunman and his vehicle going to the strategic communications team shortly after 8 a.m. on April 19, 2020, it wasn't posted on Twitter until more than two hours later at 10:17 a.m
With files from Catharine Tunney
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/families-clean-crime-scenes-shooting-inquiry-1.6533397
Families cleaning crime scenes shouldn't have happened, Mountie tells mass shooting inquiry
Chief Supt. Darren Campbell says RCMP support to victims’ families didn’t meet minimum standards
A high-ranking Mountie in Nova Scotia at the time of the mass shooting more than two years ago says he doesn't think victims' families were properly supported — and that crime scenes should not have been handed over without being cleaned.
Chief Supt. Darren Campbell testified for two days this week before the Mass Casualty Commission leading the public inquiry into the killings on April 18-19, 2020, and also spoke with the commission through two interviews in June and July.
Campbell now works in New Brunswick, but was the support services officer — one of the highest-ranking RCMP positions in the province — at the time of the shootings.
He told the commission about how he'd met with many of the victims' families the summer following the tragedy, where a gunman shot and killed 22 people in several communities throughout the province while driving a replica RCMP car.
Many of their concerns included what they saw as an RCMP failure to disclose information, and issues with Const. Wayne (Skipper) Bent, the lone liaison officer assigned to deal with nearly all of the victim's families, Campbell said.
RCMP Supt. Darren Campbell was the support services officer at the time of the shootings, the third-highest ranking Mountie in Nova Scotia. (CBC)
"They were very emotional meetings," Campbell said in a commission interview.
"I've dealt with a lot of families and I will say … I have never attended meetings with people that affected me more, or were as difficult as that."
Some victims' families, including those of Heather O'Brien and Gina Goulet, said they were left to clean the scenes where the women had died.
Campbell said the O'Brien family told him there were bullet casings left in the vehicle, as well as what they called "body parts." According to Campbell, he asked both Bent and a forensics team member how that could have happened.
Usually, after the forensic team processes a car for evidence, Campbell said they might leave some stains or tissue behind — but then it's handed to an insurance company to clean or destroy.
"It's no different than an actual crime scene within a residence. You know, we don't normally allow the family to come back in and see an awful, messy scene," Campbell said.
"That would be traumatic."
Campbell apologized to family in person
But Campbell said Bent told him the O'Brien family wanted the car returned as quickly as possible, even in the state that it was. Bent testified to the commission last month that he wasn't going to argue with the O'Briens because it was their property, so the car was returned.
Campbell said he's dealt with similar situations when families ask to see loved ones after they've been killed. While he doesn't want to deny families, Campbell said he always tries to talk them out of it because how their loved one looks now is "not who they are."
He said the same logic applies to a crime scene in a home or car — it's "not good for people" to see that.
Heather O'Brien with daughters Katie Devine, front, Darcy Dobson, second from right, and Molly O'Brien, far right. (Submitted by Darcy Dobson)
During his meeting with multiple members of the O'Brien family, which covered issues like the state of the car and how one of them had a gun pointed at them by an officer when approaching a crime scene, Campbell said he offered his condolences and told them "as a person, I'm sorry."
He also let them know what steps they could take to file a professional complaint if they wanted to do so, he said.
Campbell said he never issued a written apology and is unaware of any formal apology to the O'Briens from the RCMP.
On Tuesday, after his second day of testifying, Campbell broke down in tears and apologized to all of the families for "failing" them.
Senior Mountie expresses regret for how N.S. mass shooting was handled
In Goulet's case, the inquiry released a summary of a meeting between the commission and her daughter, Amelia Butler, and son-in-law, Dave Butler.
Amelia wasn't given an official next of kin notification, and the document said that, despite giving at least four different police officers their information, no one called the couple to let them know when Goulet's property was ready to be handed over.
Instead, Dave Butler put up "no trespassing" signs and went into the house himself, discovering "blood all over the door and other stuff he shouldn't have seen," the document said.
The Butlers made their own arrangements through insurance to have Goulet's house cleaned, but the police had not told them it was an option. At one point, the couple found a shell casing near the bathroom door and "chunk of lead" in Goulet's vanity.
Bent testified he felt "really bad" that the Butlers had that experience and arranged the cleaning before he reached out to them on April 21, two days after Goulet was killed.
A memorial on Highway 224 shows a photo of Gina Goulet, one of the victims in Canada's deadliest mass shooting. (Pat Callaghan/CBC)
Amelia Butler told the commission she originally believed Bent was their personal liaison officer, and he never explained how he actually represented families related to 21 victims. Dave Butler said Bent "wasn't able to keep his stories straight" and often couldn't remember who he was talking with.
Campbell said in a commission interview he wasn't aware of what the Butlers went through, but what they describe "should never have happened."
He said usually Bent, or another member of the investigations team, would be the one to talk with each family about cleaning options through insurance.
When asked about whether the support offered by Bent was sufficient, Campbell said, given the scope of the mass shooting, the Mounties could likely never provide enough assistance, and there's "always more that we could do."
But when pressed on whether that assistance met the minimum level of care, Campbell said "no," based on feedback from families.
"If it was good there would be no complaints," he said.
Campbell said Tuesday he knows Bent worked very hard for months to help the families, and the strain has left a "lasting impact" on him.
In his testimony Monday, Campbell said he raised concerns to the major crimes team who assigned Bent as liaison that this would be a "heavy burden" for one person to carry.
RCMP Const. Wayne Bent provides testimony related to support for family members at the Mass Casualty Commission inquiry into the mass murders in rural Nova Scotia on April 18/19, 2020, in Truro, N.S., on Tuesday, June 21, 2022. (The Canadian Press/Andrew Vaughan)
But Campbell said while the team discussed it, they eventually told him Bent could handle it on his own.
In his own interview with the commission, Bent said he "was a little selfish" having worked hard to build relationships with people, and wanted the same message going to each family.
Bent had no specific training around being a family liaison officer, and on Tuesday Campbell said he'd like to see a specially trained national team that could respond to natural disasters, terrorist attacks, or mass shootings anywhere in the country.
Family members of one victim, Const. Heidi Stevenson, were the only ones who didn't deal with Bent. Stevenson's husband and children had one officer assigned to them, while her parents dealt with another RCMP member, Campbell said.
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