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Friday, 8 September 2023

Auditor general won't talk about a dozen departures from his office


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-auditor-general-won-t-talk-about-departures-1.6959512

 

Auditor general won't talk about a dozen departures from his office

Paul Martin says market for hiring auditors is ‘hot’ but won’t say if any staff were fired

"I can't speak to individual human resource matters. Any departures from our office had nothing to do with this report or any other report," Martin said during a news conference at the legislature.

Martin confirmed last month via a written statement that 12 people have left his office since the start of the year, and nine new people have been hired.

But he refused an interview request and was not available to answer questions until Thursday when he presented his latest report to the legislature's public accounts committee.

'Competitive' offers

Martin told reporters that some of the employees who left were lured away by competitive job offers from the private sector.

He said there's been an increase in job vacancies for financial auditors and accounts.

"We have some very strong, well-credentialed professionals with many opportunities, and the marketplace is hot right now," he said.

But he refused to say how many of the 12 left for that reason and whether any were fired.

A man wearing a suit and tie standing in front of a wooden staircase, with a microphone being held out to him at chest level.Green Party Leader David Coon asked the auditor general why he didn't ask for more money to keep people from leaving the AG's office. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

Green Party Leader David Coon told Martin during his presentation to the public accounts committee of the legislature that he should have asked MLAs for additional funding so he could keep key employees from leaving during the COVID-19 audit.

"You've lost continuity, you've lost expertise," Coon said.

"Why wouldn't you have come to the legislature … to ask for an increase in your budget if your wages are not competitive with what the market is paying?"

Martin responded that he did point out the hot hiring market for auditors when he met over the last two years with the committee of MLAs that helps set his office budget.

"This shouldn't be a surprise," he told Coon. "I believe you were on that committee."

A woman with brown hair standing in front of a large building with columns on its staircase.Former deputy auditor general Janice Leahy is among the 12 no longer with the department. (Pascal Raiche-Nogue/Radio-Canada)

 Martin, who took over as auditor general at the start of 2022, said his office has adopted a new strategic plan that includes "building a strong team to achieve our mission, our goals and objectives."

Those departures represent more than one-third of the 32 employees who now work for the auditor general, an independent officer of the legislature whose mandate is to review government spending and programs.

Former deputy auditor general Janice Leahy and two senior auditors were among the 12 who left. Leahy was replaced by Deidre Green.

Reading from prepared notes, Martin said his office offers "a safe and welcoming work environment" to a diverse group of employees, which has allowed him to fill the vacancies.

"I think we've attracted some top-notch people that have replaced them, and believe in our mission to hold government accountable, to come forward with reports that matter," he said.

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Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. He grew up in Moncton and covered Parliament in Ottawa for the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal. He has reported on every New Brunswick election since 1995 and won awards from the Radio Television Digital News Association, the National Newspaper Awards and Amnesty International. He is also the author of five non-fiction books about New Brunswick politics and history.

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Everybody knows why they left

 

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In 2021 a former auditor in the office, Brent White, urged the Higgs government to recruit the new auditor general from outside the civil service.

White argued that hiring auditors general from within the government risked compromising their independence, violating key tenets of the accounting sector's professional standards.

Martin is the third consecutive auditor general appointed from within the civil service.

Higgs said in 2022 that when a hiring committee recommended Martin, he raised the independence issue himself but was assured that files he handled as comptroller would be "treated independently … so you're not reviewing your own work."

 

David Amos
"I think we've attracted some top-notch people that have replaced them, and believe in our mission to hold government accountable, to come forward with reports that matter," he said.
 
 
Les Cooper 
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I doubt it lol
 
 
David Amos
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I bet the former deputy auditor general and two senior auditors are reading these comments
 

Don Corey  
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I'd also bet they're not allowed to say a thing about it.
 
 
David Amos
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Of that I have no doubt
 
 

 
 
Les Cooper
So if we had honest politicians, would we need auditors
 
 

David Amos
 
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Surely you jest we need honest auditors too
 

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Auditor general won't talk about a dozen departures from his office     
 
 
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Martin refused an interview request, and in an emailed statement would not explain why so many people left his office.

"The office does not comment on specific human resource matters," he wrote.

Leahy did not respond to an interview request sent by email and left on her home voicemail.

She served as acting auditor general for part of 2021 before Martin was appointed to the position to replace Kim Adair-MacPherson.

Leahy also took the lead on some audit reports released after Martin's appointment because they scrutinized government programs he monitored in his former role as comptroller, an internal watchdog position in the Department of Finance.

 
 
 
Don Corey  
I wonder why the former deputy auditor general is being so quiet. 
 
 
Don Corey  
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Perhaps it's because of something she signed? 
 
 
David Amos
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I am glad somebody noticed    
 

 
 

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Friday, 8 September 2023
Auditor general won't talk about a dozen departures from his office
 
 
           
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-core-decision-making-new-brunswick-auditor-general-pandemic-review-health-1.6961083
 
 

N.B. government disputes findings of audit, says 'COVID core' had no decision-making power

'Only cabinet made decisions,' says spokesperson Bruce Macfarlane

"The [organizational] structure listed in the auditor general's report is not a structure of the hierarchy of decision making," Bruce Macfarlane, acting senior director of media relations for the executive council, said in an emailed statement Friday.

"Only cabinet made decisions."

Macfarlane did not comment directly on the Office of the Chief Medical Officer of Health being at the bottom of the list in auditor general's report. But he did say Dr. Jennifer Russell or her designate "provided advice to cabinet when public health proposals were made to government."

In a statement, Auditor General Paul Martin agreed cabinet made pandemic-related decisions, gave final approvals and records of those decision were drafted.

But he noted "decisions were made in various components about what information, advice, and recommendations would flow upward through various components of the pandemic response co-ordination organizational chart until it reached cabinet for final decision."

"Typically, everything that was submitted to cabinet related to the pandemic went through COVID core first," his audit of the government's pandemic response states.

 
An organizational chart.

 


The 'COVID-19 decision-making hierarchy' chart in the auditor general's report is incorrect, according to government spokesperson Bruce Macfarlane. The COVID core was not a decision-making body, he said. (Office of the Auditor General)

On Thursday, when Martin presented his report to the legislature's standing committee on public accounts, he said he obtained the information from the Department of Health. The report lists the source of the "decision-making hierarchy" as being "adapted from the New Brunswick Provincial Pandemic Coordination Plan (unaudited)."

The COVID core was among the highlights of Martin's report because he found the group of seven senior government officials did not maintain any records — no minutes of meetings, no discussion notes and no agendas.

In addition, there were "no formal documents that define the purpose, expectations, and roles and responsibilities of COVID core," according to his report.

Several MLAs remarked that they didn't recall any such group, including Green Party Leader David Coon, who was a member of the COVID cabinet committee.

Created by clerk of executive council

CBC requested an interview with Russell through the Department of Health and an interview with Premier Blaine Higgs through his office. Instead, Macfarlane sent the emailed statement.

COVID core was created by the clerk of the executive council when the pandemic began, he said, providing a link to the provincial pandemic co-ordination plan, which was published at that time and includes one reference to the then-four-member group in an "organizational chart," in second place, under the premier and executive council.

It served the function of reviewing, challenging and providing strategic thought to ensure advice to the cabinet committee was coming from a whole-of-government and whole-of-society perspective.

- Bruce Macfarlane, government spokesperson

"It served the function of reviewing, challenging and providing strategic thought to ensure advice to the cabinet committee was coming from a whole-of-government and whole-of-society perspective.

"COVID was not a one-department issue and COVID core ensured there was co-ordination with issues that needed to be addressed across departments."

According to auditor general's report, members of the COVID core included:

  • Clerk of executive council (ECO).

  • Deputy minister of Justice and Public Safety. 

  • Deputy minister of Health.

  • Deputy minister of corporate communications (ECO).

  • Deputy chief operating officer (ECO).

  • Provincial security adviser, Justice and Public Safety.

  • Assistant deputy minister of Public Health.

They "had a huddle" each morning while the mandatory order was in place, Macfarlane said.

"This is a normal function the Executive Council Office does working with deputy ministers daily after cabinet direction," he said.

It enabled departments to be better prepared to answer questions and for the government to prepare initial communications "as decisions were regularly swift and required immediate communication with the public."

Asked why the COVID core did not keep any records, he reiterated that it "did daily huddles. It was not a decision-making body."

Members briefed others on cabinet decisions

The membership increased as the pandemic progressed, said Macfarlane. "Additional members were required for areas of expertise and were invited by the clerk of the executive council."

The COVID core operated until the mandatory order ended in March 2022, said Macfarlane.

"With rare exceptions, members of the team attended every meeting and teleconference of the COVID cabinet committee and of cabinet, at which COVID was discussed, throughout the relevant period," he said.

"Individual members also briefed legislative assembly caucuses, municipal officials, the Chief Medical Officer of Health Dr. Jennifer Russell, critical infrastructure owners/operators and law enforcement leaders regularly, on the decisions taken by cabinet and the orders made by the minister of Public Safety on the basis of those decisions."


 
 
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05-15-2023

The New Brunswick Medical Society (NBMS) is very pleased to announce the appointment of Mr. René Boudreau as the Society’s new CEO.

Mr. Boudreau’s 20 years of combined experience at the executive level within the healthcare, postsecondary education, research and innovation, economic development and intergovernmental affairs sectors provide him with a strong foundation upon which to lead the New Brunswick Medical Society.

“René brings a wealth of experience from the provincial civil service to the NBMS, said Dr. Chris Goodyear, NBMS Board Chairman. “At a time when government will be making significant investments in health care, his understanding of system change and governance will help address the Society’s priorities of improving primary care access, developing and supporting collaborative care models, decreasing surgical wait lists and addressing physician retention and recruitment. We believe his strong leadership and knowledge of New Brunswick healthcare is the right combination to lead the NBMS to deliver change while ensuring quality care for our patients.”

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Mr. Boudreau joins the organization on June 12th, 2023.



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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nursing-homes-covid-19-pandemic-auditor-general-report-1.6959220 
 

N.B. failed to ensure nursing homes were prepared for a pandemic, audit finds

Systemic challenges, such as staff shortages, contributed to impact of COVID-19, audit says

Ninety nursing-home residents and one staff member died because of the pandemic, as of March 31, 2022.

The Department of Social Development did not have an up-to-date pandemic plan before COVID-19 or provide financial resources to nursing homes to support the development of pandemic plans, Martin told the legislature's standing committee on public accounts.

Departmental standards for infection prevention and control were also "below best practice," according to Martin.

Infection Prevention and Control Canada recommends a minimum of one full-time infection prevention and control professional for every 150 to 200 beds, depending on the severity of illness. The department hired two infection prevention and control specialists to guide nursing homes on minimizing the spread of COVID-19.

"According to the department, the specialists made efforts to work with each home in outbreak, but with the number of nursing homes experiencing outbreaks they were unable to visit every home in person," the report says.

"Departmental staff informed us the risk of contamination was high in nursing homes due to a lack of conformity with [infection prevention control] measures and poor PPE [personal protective equipment] competency among nursing home staff," such as some COVID units not utilizing PPE, not changing PPE between units, and improper donning and doffing procedures.

A man and a woman sit at a desk in the legislature.Auditor General Paul Martin, pictured with his new deputy, Diedre Green, said a review of inspection results for a sample of 30 nursing homes found non-compliance with appropriate care staff ratios rose from 30 per cent in 2018 to 87 per cent in 2022. Non-compliance with the requirement for a full- time registered nurse at all times rose from 10 per cent to 40 per cent during the same period. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

The department continued annual inspections of nursing homes during the pandemic and several areas of non-compliance were noted, "however, enforcement options were limited as the department lacked enforcement mechanisms."

As it stands, the department can either modify a nursing home's licence, revoke it, or place a home into trusteeship. The department has been "hesitant" about the first two because of the hardship they could cause for residents, according to the report.

As a result, "modified licences have been the primary enforcement mechanism and it has not proven to be an effective one."

Areas of non-compliance increased during the pandemic, said Martin. For example, 20 nursing homes reported staffing levels as "strained or critical," and 73 per cent of the homes did not meet nursing home design standards.

"Departmental staff informed us they believe a contributing factor to COVID-19 outbreaks was that older home layouts were not adequate to deal with airborne and communicable disease," the report says.

There is no formalized plan to bring nursing homes up to the design standards or convert double occupancy rooms into single rooms, as this would "have a significant financial impact [and] cause patient backlog in hospitals."

"Nursing home risks remain unaddressed," Martin concluded.

Staffing remains biggest challenge, says union

Sharon Teare, president of the New Brunswick Council of Nursing Home Unions, said she's not surprised by the auditor general's criticisms.

The biggest issue was, and remains, staffing, she said.

"I think any of the improvement we've seen is, you know, the utilization of staffing agencies, which is a real Band-Aid fix to the situation.

"Folks aren't staying. I know in our sector that we need continuity of care as well as the consistency."

Teare is hopeful lessons will be learned. She contends that's owed to the seniors and the workers who take care of them.

Martin made a total of eight recommendations, including that the department work with nursing homes to address key inspection non-compliance areas, particularly staffing levels, and that timely access to infection prevention and control specialists be ensured.

Green Party Leader David Coon told reporters he thinks the government should use its budget surplus, now estimated at nearly $200 million, to improve the the salaries and working conditions of nursing home and special care home employees, and to upgrade homes to modern standards to "ensure the infrastructure itself is more effective at resisting the transmission of viruses."

Scope of report criticized

Coon said he's "quite upset" the auditor general looked at only roughly half the long-term care sector in his report. He questioned why Martin didn't also review the pandemic response at special care homes, which have about 6,000 residents, compared to about 5,000 in nursing homes.

He noted the first COVID outbreak at a long-term care home was at Manoir de la Vallée, a special care home in Atholville. The Manoir was also the site of the province's first COVID death — Daniel Ouellette, 84, and the first place where someone couldn't be with their loved one who was dying because of COVID restrictions.

Martin "really missed the opportunity to produce a report that in the end needs to be of a quality and of a comprehensiveness to enable us to ensure that we're better prepared for a variant that might come along that's COVID, that's going to be particularly problematic, or a new novel virus," Coon told reporters.

"And that's what concerns me because in the end this is all about being better prepared for what what we may face in the future, and this report doesn't do that for me."

A man wearing a suit and tie standing in front of a wooden staircase, with a microphone being held out to him at chest level.Green Party Leader David Coon said the pandemic is not over. There are nursing homes in the province that have COVID-19 outbreaks are reinstating mask mandates, he said. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

Martin said his decision was based on available resources and on turning around a timely report.

Coon, who was a member of the COVID cabinet committee and took an oath of confidentiality, suggested the report would have looked "much different" if Martin had interviewed a number of key people, both inside and outside of government.

Tory MLA Dorothy Shephard, who served as social development minister as well as the minister of health during periods of the pandemic, said she was "really quite shocked" Martin didn't speak to elected officials — "or at least to those that I know."

Martin declined to say whom he interviewed, calling it confidential. But he said he had strong public engagement.

He will table another volume of his performance audit in December.

With files from Shift and Jacques Poitras

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Coon, who was a member of the COVID cabinet committee and took an oath of confidentiality, suggested the report would have looked "much different" if Martin had interviewed a number of key people, both inside and outside of government.
 
 
 
 

 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/auditor-general-new-brunswick-covid-19-pandemic-response-report-1.6959112

 

N.B.'s top doctor at bottom of COVID-19 decision-making hierarchy, auditor general finds

Group identified as 'COVID core' in 3rd spot, Paul Martin's audit of the province's pandemic response shows

He described the COVID core as "the group of senior officials who supported the cabinet committee on COVID-19."

Tory MLA Trevor Holder said he didn't recall any such group and questioned what its purpose was.

Martin said, "a process was created whereby the Department of Health would bring forward advice to COVID core who would then review, challenge and provide strategic thought around the information."

Department of Health advice would then proceed to the cabinet committee on COVID-19 and on to cabinet, he said. The minister of Justice and Public Safety would then issue mandatory orders under the Emergency Measures Act "informed by advice from the Department of Health."

A man wearing glasses and a suit, speaking into a microphone while holding a pen in the air.Tory MLA Trevor Holder stressed the importance of proper record-keeping to avoid a situation where things that get acted upon don't actually reflect the decision of cabinet and elected officials. (Legislative Assembly of New Brunswick)

 The provincial government made "difficult decisions, which significantly impacted the lives of New Brunswickers," such as restrictions on gatherings, mask mandates and closures of schools and business, Martin noted in his 99-page report.

Overall, the government reacted quickly to the COVID-19 pandemic with unprecedented measures aimed at saving lives, including the province's first state of emergency, he said.

But he criticized the government's level of preparedness. For example, New Brunswick did not have an updated pandemic plan, based on lessons learned from the H1N1 flu experience, he said.

An organizational chart.


The Office of the Chief Medical Officer of Health was as the bottom of New COVID-19 decision-making hierarchy, the auditor general's report shows. (Office of the Auditor General)

He also found problems with the government's decision-making process, record keeping and communications.

"We found six instances out of 14 sampled restrictions in mandatory orders where public health measures were supported by verbal updates only," the report says.

One mandatory order from June 2020, that everyone who enters any building open to the general public must wear a face mask covering their mouth and nose, was revised the next day, "after decision-makers asserted that it did not reflect the intended decision."

Holder said this "pointed out a significant gap."

"That wasn't leaving out a comma or a colon somewhere. That was a pretty significant oversight that changes what cabinet actually decided. That's a pretty big breakdown."

'Face' of COVID response missing from report

Tory MLA Andrea Anderson-Mason questioned the lack of reference to "what one would arguably say was the face of COVID [response] for us," Dr. Jennifer Russell, the province's chief medical officer of health.

"From my own recollection, she was very involved in the decision-making process and the advice that came from her department," Anderson-Mason said, adding she was surprised to see Russell's office at the bottom of the organizational chart.

Martin said the chief medical officer of health, assistant deputy minister of public health and deputy minister of health were among those with authority to attend cabinet committee on COVID-19. "So these people were in the room at these cabinet committee meetings," he said.

   A woman with glasses and dark hair pulled back in a ponytail speaks into a microphone.Tory MLA Andrea Anderson-Mason said she found the lack of information about the 'elusive' COVID core 'quite concerning.' (Legislative Assembly of New Brunswick)

Like Holder, Anderson-Mason zeroed in on the COVID core. "Even though I was a member of cabinet at the beginning of the pandemic, this is the first that I have ever heard of COVID core."

She consulted with a few of her colleagues, she said, and they're "in a very similar situation."

"And yet we have a whole chapter dedicated to this elusive cabinet core. How do you actually know that it exists?"

Martin said he got his information from the Department of Health.

Anderson-Mason said she found some of the information in his report "quite concerning," citing as examples the lack of terms of reference and lack of records, such as meeting minutes, agendas, discussion notes or actions.

She also found it "bizarre" that Martin's report describes the COVID core as a subcommittee of the security and emergency committee, yet it's listed above that committee in the organizational chart.

Martin acknowledged she has a "great question there for the executive council office when they come in."

5 recommendations

Overall, the structures and processes established by the province for the COVID-19 response "set a framework for effective oversight," but there are opportunities to improve oversight to be better prepared for a future pandemic, Martin said.

Among other steps, he recommended the province:

  • Prepare and keep emergency response plans up to date for all hazards, including pandemics.
  • Test and update plans on a regular basis according to a pre-defined schedule.

In addition, he said, the executive council office should ensure the roles, responsibilities and expectations of all executive committees involved in provincial emergency response are clearly defined and documented; records are maintained for all committee meetings during an emergency response; and that recommendations and decision support be documented for any similar future emergencies, "as emergency situations become more stable with the passage of time."

The executive council office, in collaboration with New Brunswick Emergency Measures Organization, should undertake a post-operation review and incorporate communication lessons learned into an updated New Brunswick Emergency Public Information Plan, said Martin.

The executive council office should also ensure the Department of Justice and Public Safety, in collaboration the Department of Health:

  • Undertake an after action review to evaluate the provincial response to the COVID-19 pandemic.
  • Incorporate lessons learned into an updated provincial pandemic emergency plan.
  • Create and implement a schedule to regularly test and update the provincial pandemic emergency plan.

The government agreed with all five recommendations, according to the report.

The legislature unanimously requested the performance audit on March 31, 2022.

Another volume is expected in December.

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Thursday, 17 August 2023
Auditor general faces scrutiny of his own after a dozen departures
from his office
Re: Matter 529 - NB Power Rate Design and Bill 32 Does anyone think
this Bill will pass before June 7th?

Gould, Kevin (AGNB/VGNB)
<Kevin.Gould@gnb.ca>    Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 2:38 PM
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
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Le français suit:

Hi,

I am currently out of the office. I will gladly reply to your message
upon my return on Monday August 21 2023.

Should you require immediate assistance, and for all media inquiries,
please contact 453-2243.

Thank you!
Kevin

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Bonjour

Je suis présentement à l'extérieur du bureau. Il me fera plaisir de
répondre à votre message à mon retrour le lundi 21 août 2023.

Pour une aide immédiate, ou pour toutes demandes médiatique, veuillez
communiquer au 453-2243.

Merci!
Kevin


Kevin Gould, P. Eng
Performance Auditor | Vérificateur de performance
PO/CP 758, Fredericton NB E3B 5B4
506-453-6472| kevin.gould@gnb.ca


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<keith.chiasson@gnb.ca>, "David.Coon" <David.Coon@gnb.ca>, "Mitton,
Megan (LEG)" <megan.mitton@gnb.ca>, "Arseneau, Kevin (LEG)"
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https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2023/08/auditor-general-faces-scrutiny-of-his.html


Thursday, 17 August 2023

Auditor general faces scrutiny of his own after a dozen departures
from his office

 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/auditor-general-dozen-departures-1.6938473

Auditor general faces scrutiny of his own after a dozen departures
from his office
Green leader raises questions about staff changes coinciding with
COVID audit delay

Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Aug 17, 2023 6:00 AM ADT


A man in a suit sitting at a desk and holding an open book Auditor
General Paul Martin refused an interview request, and in an emailed
statement would not explain why so many people left his office.
(Jacques Poitras/CBC)

New Brunswick's auditor general, the province's top fiscal watchdog,
will come under scrutiny himself next month over the departure of a
dozen staffers in his office.

Green Party Leader David Coon says he plans to question Paul Martin
about why so many people have left.

Former deputy auditor general Janice Leahy and two senior auditors are
among the 12 no longer with the department.

"It sends a negative message to the public and to all MLAs that this
legislative officer has made these decisions that raise a lot of
questions about motivation," Coon said.

A woman with brown hair standing in front of a large building with
columns on its staircase. Former deputy auditor general Janice Leahy
and two senior auditors are among the 12 no longer with the
department. (Pascal Raiche-Nogue/Radio-Canada)

"Why would he undermine the strength and expertise and resources
within his office at a time when he's got so much work to do? It makes
no sense."

Through a spokesperson, Martin confirmed that 12 people have left
since the start of 2023.

Nine new people have been hired, including a new deputy, Deidre Green.

The 12 departures represent more than one-third of the 32 employees
who now work for the auditor general.

Martin is scheduled to appear at the legislature's public accounts
committee on Sept. 7 to present the first of two audits of the Higgs
government's response to the COVID-19 pandemic — a period when he was
working directly for the province.

His committee appearance was scheduled for June but was postponed
until July and then postponed again.

A balding man with glasses is speaking inside the legislature. Green
Party Leader David Coon said he’ll raise the departures with Martin at
the committee meeting in September. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

Coon said this raises even more questions about the timing of the three firings.

"Is it a coincidence? Maybe. Maybe not. But there's lots of questions
to ask about that."

Martin said in June that the COVID report was postponed because "these
are complex audits and sufficient time is needed to finalize this
work."

Martin refused an interview request, and in an emailed statement would
not explain why so many people left his office.

"The office does not comment on specific human resource matters," he wrote.

Leahy did not respond to an interview request sent by email and left
on her home voicemail.

She served as acting auditor general for part of 2021 before Martin
was appointed to the position to replace Kim Adair-MacPherson.

Leahy also took the lead on some audit reports released after Martin's
appointment because they scrutinized government programs he monitored
in his former role as comptroller, an internal watchdog position in
the Department of Finance.

A man folding his arms and smiling while sitting at a desk    In 2021
a former auditor in the office, Brent White, urged the Higgs
government to recruit the new auditor general from outside the civil
service. (Submitted by Mount Allison University )

In 2021 a former auditor in the office, Brent White, urged the Higgs
government to recruit the new auditor general from outside the civil
service.

White argued that hiring auditors general from within the government
risked compromising their independence, violating key tenets of the
accounting sector's professional standards.

Martin is the third consecutive auditor general appointed from within
the civil service.

Higgs said in 2022 that when a hiring committee recommended Martin, he
raised the independence issue himself but was assured that files he
handled as comptroller would be "treated independently … so you're not
reviewing your own work."

    New auditor general's past in Finance Department raises concern
about potential for bias

    Auditor general's report on N.B.'s response to COVID-19 pandemic postponed

Martin was recommended by a selection committee made up of the clerk
of the executive council, the clerk of the legislature, a judge and a
university vice-president.

He told CBC News when he was appointed he would recuse himself from
audits that touched on his own previous work as comptroller.

A man with grey hair and glasses wearing a suit and standing at a
wooden podium. Premier Blaine Higgs said in 2022 that when a hiring
committee recommended Martin, he raised the independence issue himself
but was assured that files he handled as comptroller would be 'treated
independently … so you're not reviewing your own work.' (Pat
Richard/CBC)

"You just have to use your professional judgment and know when that
turns into an actual or perceived conflict and when are the right
times to back out," he said.

Coon said he'll raise the departures with Martin at the committee
meeting in September.

"I'll have lots of questions for him as to why he made these decisions
and what was the motivation, because we're talking about very
experienced staff people, very senior staff people."
ABOUT THE AUTHOR

Jacques Poitras

Provincial Affairs reporter

Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New
Brunswick since 2000. He grew up in Moncton and covered Parliament in
Ottawa for the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal. He has reported on
every New Brunswick election since 1995 and won awards from the Radio
Television Digital News Association, the National Newspaper Awards and
Amnesty International. He is also the author of five non-fiction books
about New Brunswick politics and history.
CBC's Journalistic Standards and Practices



72 Comments



David Amos
I bet the former deputy auditor general and two senior auditors are
reading these comments




David Amos
I repeat the constant laments of the Green Party Leader have become a joke to me


Rhys Philbin
Reply to David Amos
I’m no fan but asking for accountability is not a joke.

Why 12 we’ll paid civil servants jump ship is a good question.


David Amos
Reply to Rhys Philbin
Check my work



Donald Gallant
Seems like a lot of good people have just up and left.

This seems like it needs a thorough investigation


David Amos
Reply to Donald Gallant
Everybody knows why they left


Don Corey
Reply to David Amos
Did Poitras figure it out?




Donald Gallant
Think I read where someone was quoted as saying

“ Data be Darned “

Looks like that could apply to employees and voters as well.

Reminds one of a Sinatra song. My Way.


David Amos
Reply to Donald Gallant
Did Frank sing about Bill 32 like I did?





Ronald Miller
So Higgs himself questioned how the auditor is chosen by the
independent committee that chooses that person yet the anti-Higgs
crowd is still trying to make this sound like a Higgs issue, this
stuff writes itself.


David Amos
Reply to Ronald Miller
This is all about Higgy


Ronald Miller
Reply to David Amos
Article title says otherwise.


David Amos
Reply to Ronald Miller
Read between the lines


Ronald Miller
Reply to David Amos
There is only empty space between the lines.


David Amos
Reply to Ronald Miller
Premier Blaine Higgs said in 2022 that when a hiring committee
recommended Martin, he raised the independence issue himself but was
assured that files he handled as comptroller would be 'treated
independently … so you're not reviewing your own work.'





Marc Bourque
If the citizens of NB knew how GNB handles business in all depts.,they
would be appalled...


David Amos
Reply to Marc Bourque
Oh So True


Michael Cain
Reply to Marc Bourque
I don't think the ministers really have any role in "managing"
departments, but more of a big daddy overseer of getting things done.
Team Higgs has put everyone on notice their job is at stake if he
doesn't get what he wants.


Ronald Miller
Reply to Michael Cain
My goodness you are awfully upset at how well this province has been
run as compared to Ottawa.


Le Wier
Reply to Marc LeBlanc
Unless, New Brunswickers have had to get in contact with any GNB
departments in the last 3 years they would not know how the
departments are being run. I have, and it’s an up hill battle to get
to speak to anyone in authority in these departments. The government
is transparent in the fact that if you want to be directed to the
right employee you have to contact the premier’s office, or be forever
caught on a merry go round.


Marc LeBlanc
Reply to Ronald Miller
Ronny, you need to print yourself up some great big posters and pace
in front of the legislature and show your undying support for the
premier. A couple of $@*$ Trudeau flags should round out your ensemble
nicely.


Michael Cain
Reply to Marc LeBlanc
Must be the most misinformed Higgs supporter on here.


Ronald Miller
Reply to Marc LeBlanc
Sounds like someone is upset I rely on facts to make my decisions, try
it out sometime.


Ronald Miller
Reply to Marc LeBlanc
Maybe I could borrow a couple of those posters from MC's bedroom. Let
me know what he says.





Daniel Franklin
Higgs should call that election that he threatened his cabinet with.
Did he get scared?


David Amos
Reply to Daniel Franklin
Why should he?


Michael Cain
Reply to Daniel Franklin
No, I think Higgs would best retire with the legacy of being the
premier of the poorest province in Canada.


Ronald Miller
Reply to Michael Cain
Still clinging to old news, I guess when you are on the losing end so
often it is all you have. Higgs fixed that and now we lead, not
follow, pay attention.


Daniel Franklin
Reply to David Amos
Because he said he would. Why continue the trend of Conservative
leaders making promises that they don't keep?


Ronald Miller
Reply to Daniel Franklin
No, be brought up the possibility, I suggest you go back and do a
little reading. Last time he called an election many on here got
upset, so the usuals get upset no matter which way he goes, typical.


David Amos
Reply to Daniel Franklin
Be careful of what you wish for





Stephanie Haslam
Would the public be surprised to know that there are
lobbyist/communications firms that can prepare people for these
legislative committees? Here is the wording from one such firm: “
Committee Preparation

We have prepared dozens of individuals for testimony and questioning
before government and quasi-judicial bodies. These intense and unique
encounters require poise, detailed knowledge and excellent bridging
messages. We can prepare you to be confident, convincing and
successful.”


William Peters
Reply to Stephanie Haslam
It's always about convincing and selling. What snake oil salesman was
ever not adept at it?


David Amos
Reply to William Peters
Its not rocket science


Stephanie Haslam
Reply to Stephanie Haslam
It puts one in mind of George Costanza , of Seinfeld fame, who said,
“Jerry, just remember— it’s not a lie if YOU believe it.”





Terry Bull
very experienced staff people, very senior staff people

Let's see their performance reviews. Experienced and Senior do not
necessarily mean Quality.


David Amos
Reply to Terry Bull
Bingo


Don Corey
Reply to Terry Bull
Especially in government.




Eddy Jay
Who's auditing the auditor?


David Amos
Reply to Eddy Jay
I do kinda sorta




Alison Jackson
Content Deactivated
"Conservatives are not very transparent. We have zipped mouths on the
neurological issues/ glyphosate..."


Eddy Jay
Reply to Alison Jackson
Hardly a conservative phenomena.


JOhn D Bond
Reply to Alison Jackson
All true, but have the individuals that have left made any comments on why?


Rhys Philbin
Reply to JOhn D Bond
You already know the answer to that.


David Amos
Reply to Rhys Philbin
Yup





Jim Lake
Hhmmm … now there are multiple reports about the Higgs government and
its (potentially) poor performance that are, once again, being delayed
from release. Something fishy is going on in Fredericton. Given all
the news reports over the past few years about our government’s lack
of transparency and taking accountability, it’s hard not to think that
the premier is intentionally avoiding releasing information to New
Brunswickers and taking responsibility for his government.


Ronald Miller
Reply to Jim Lake
Can you share some of these transparency and accountability stories?


David Amos
Reply to Ronald Miller
I do every day



Ben Haroldson
Why would anyone be scared of an audit?


David Amos
Reply to Ben Haroldson
Surely you jest




Wilson Rose
Nobody is going to trust the audit information coming from that office
now. Perhaps, some people at that office were not willing to
incriminate themselves or have their names associated with fraudulent
information?


Margaret Flowers
Reply to Wilson Rose
Bingo.


David Webb
Reply to Wilson Rose
Or, maybe people decided to retire with their golden PS pension and
lovely parting gifts? Who pays attention to someone who will never see
the Premiers chair. Let him ask his questions, then we can see what if
any information comes from it.


JOhn D Bond
Reply to Wilson Rose
Perhaps actually having some form of comment from those that left as
to why would be a good starting point. There are more than enough
challenges to be dealt with. Do we need to create one, where it may
not be an issue at all. People change jobs, retire and or get better
offers all the time.


Fred Brewer
Reply to JOhn D Bond
Sure, but whenever there is a mass-exodus of employees from a leader,
and the leader refuses to comment, it starts to smell fishy. We are
talking about one third of the entire staff leaving all within one
year.


David Amos
Reply to Margaret Flowers
Ditto


JOhn D Bond
Reply to Fred Brewer
I do understand. Perhaps it is just my personal dislike of conclusions
based on optics. Much prefer facts


Fred Brewer
Reply to JOhn D Bond
Agreed, but I find that facts are hard to get from this government.
Reporters have to dig for the facts with Right to Information Requests
but the results are usually heavily redacted.


JOhn D Bond
Reply to Fred Brewer
Agreed it is a challenge, thankfully every day that goes by is a day
closer to the next election.



Re: Matter 529 - NB Power Rate Design and Bill 32 Does anyone think
this Bill will pass before June 7th?

David Amos
<david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>       Mon, Jun 5, 2023 at 2:15 PM
To: paul.martin@gnb.ca, janice.leahy@gnb.ca, julie.weeks2@gnb.ca,
julian.williams@gnb.ca, kevin.gould@gnb.ca, bill.ivey@gnb.ca,
ben.jacobs@gnb.ca, peter.macleod@gnb.ca, dan.mccullough@gnb.ca,
Chris.Mitchell@gnb.ca, christian.obrien@gnb.ca, jacob.pappoe@gnb.ca
Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>, "robert.mckee"
<robert.mckee@gnb.ca>, "robert.gauvin" <robert.gauvin@gnb.ca>,
"Rene.Legacy" <Rene.Legacy@gnb.ca>, "keith.chiasson"
<keith.chiasson@gnb.ca>, "David.Coon" <David.Coon@gnb.ca>, "Mitton,
Megan (LEG)" <megan.mitton@gnb.ca>, "Arseneau, Kevin (LEG)"
<kevin.a.arseneau@gnb.ca>


At the 30 minute mark Seguin asked Holland an important question with
regards to my concerns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB1EZQOQ5wQ&ab_channel=Rogerstv



NB - The Panel with Terry Seguin - NB Power - November 9, 2022 | Rogers tv
Rogers tv
152K subscribers
378 views  6 months ago
Terry welcomes Minister Mike Holland, Keith Chiasson and David Coon to
talk about NB Power.

3 Comments

David Amos
Enter the Clowns


---------- Forwarded message ----------

Re: Bill 32 etc Hey Higgy why is it that nothing you and CBC say or do
surprises me?


David Amos
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To: "Chiasson, Alain (OAG/CPG)" <Alain.Chiasson2@gnb.ca>,
"blaine.higgs" <blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>, "Holland, Mike (LEG)"
<mike.holland@gnb.ca>, "Marco.Mendicino" <Marco.Mendicino@parl.gc.ca>,
mcu <mcu@justice.gc.ca>, "Tom.MacFarlane" <Tom.MacFarlane@gnb.ca>,
"Kim.Embleton" <Kim.Embleton@gnb.ca>, jessica.mundie@cbc.ca
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"Ron.marcolin@cme-mec.ca" <Ron.marcolin@cme-mec.ca>, "Sollows, David
(DNRED/MRNDE)" <David.Sollows@gnb.ca>, "hanrahan.dion@jdirving.com"
<hanrahan.dion@jdirving.com>, Nancy G Rubin
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<brudderham@stewartmckelvey.com>, "JohnFurey@fureylegal.com"
<JohnFurey@fureylegal.com>, "jpetrie@nbpower.com"
<jpetrie@nbpower.com>, "NBPRegulatory@nbpower.com"
<NBPRegulatory@nbpower.com>, "lgordon@nbpower.com"
<lgordon@nbpower.com>, "SWaycott@nbpower.com" <SWaycott@nbpower.com>,
"George.Porter@nbpower.com" <George.Porter@nbpower.com>,
"kevgibson@nbpower.com" <kevgibson@nbpower.com>, Veronique Otis
<Veronique.Otis@nbeub.ca>, "louis-philippe.gauthier@cfib.ca"
<louis-philippe.gauthier@cfib.ca>, "Young, Dave"
<Dave.Young@nbeub.ca>, "Abigail J. Herrington"
<Aherrington@lawsoncreamer.com>, "Mitchell, Kathleen"
<Kathleen.Mitchell@nbeub.ca>, NBEUB/CESPNB <General@nbeub.ca>,
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<paul.black@twinriverspaper.com>, Len Hoyt
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<darcy.ouellette@twinriverspaper.com>, "jeff.garrett@sjenergy.com"
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<pierreroy@edmundston.ca>, "ryan.mitchell@sjenergy.com"
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<pzarnett@bdrenergy.com>, "ceo@fermenbfarm.ca" <ceo@fermenbfarm.ca>
Bcc: Jolyne.roy@gnb.ca

https://www.legnb.ca/en/legislation/bills/60/2/32/an-act-respecting-transferring-powers-to-the


60th Legislature - 2nd Session
Bill No. 32An Act Respecting Transferring Powers to the Energy and
Utilities Board
Bill Type Government Bill
Status Royal Assent
Sponsored by
Hon. Mike HOLLAND

    Hon. Mike HOLLAND
    Progressive Conservative Party
    Albert

Documents
First Reading (Tabled, PDF)
First Reading (Tabled, HTML)
Progression Timeline

    First Reading
        March 22, 2023
        Introduced
    Second Reading
        May 17, 2023
        Debated Passed
    Standing Committee on Economic Policy
        June 14, 2023
        Debated Passed
    Third Reading
        June 16, 2023
        Debated Passed
    Royal Assent
        June 16, 2023
        Passed

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/new-brunswick-blaine-higgs-policy-713-1.6880751

N.B. premier stands by changes to school LGBTQ policy, says he does
not want an election

'I don't want to go to an election and that isn't my intent to do
that,' said Premier Higgs

Jessica Mundie · CBC News · Posted: Jun 18, 2023 5:39 PM ADT

New Brunswick Premier Blaine Higgs speaks in Fredericton, N.B. on
Thursday, February 9, 2023. In an interview on Rosemary Barton Live,
Higgs said he is trying to "find a path forward" in regards to
managing the changes his government has made to Policy 713.
New Brunswick Premier Blaine Higgs speaks in Fredericton, N.B., on
Feb. 9. In an interview on Rosemary Barton Live, Higgs said he is
trying to 'find a path forward' in regards to managing the changes his
government has made to Policy 713. (THE CANADIAN PRESS/Stephen
MacGillivray)

New Brunswick Premier Blaine Higgs is maintaining his support of the
changes his government has made to Policy 713, which was designed to
protect LGBTQ students, despite rising tensions in the legislature.

In an interview on Rosemary Barton Live, Higgs said he is trying to
"find a path forward" in regards to managing the changes, but
backpedalled on a statement he made on June 8, when he said he was
willing to call an election on this issue.

"I don't want to go to an election and that isn't my intent to do
that," he said.

The growing controversy in the New Brunswick legislature has stemmed
from the government's review of and changes to Policy 713, which
established minimum standards for schools to ensure a safe, welcoming
and inclusive environment for LGBTQ students.

    Higgs threatens election to quell rebellion over Policy 713

    Minister broke promise to not roll back LGBTQ rights, advocates say

Among the changes sparking debate is that students under 16 now need
to get their parents' permission to have teachers and staff use their
chosen names and pronouns.

Higgs defended the change, saying information about a child should not
be hidden from their parents.

"We're trying to find a path forward to protect the children and to
involve the parents when the time is right and have the right people
engaged in that process," he said.
WATCH | N.B. premier defends changes to LGBTQ school policy:
N.B. premier defends changes to LGBTQ+ school policy
21 hours ago
Duration 10:08
Rosemary Barton Live speaks with New Brunswick Premier Blaine Higgs
about controversial changes to Policy 713, an education policy meant
to protect transgender students, and his comments about gender
identity. Plus, a conversation with a N.B. transgender high school
student about how the changes will affect LGBTQ+ youth.

The threat of an election on this issue was brought up by Higgs after
he faced a rebellion from several of his top cabinet ministers in
response to the policy review.

Six ministers and two backbench MLAs refused to attend the June 8
morning sitting of the legislature "as a way to express our extreme
disappointment in a lack of process and transparency," they said in a
statement.
Approach to review drives minister resignation

Since then, one of the six ministers has resigned from Higgs' cabinet.

On Thursday, after hearing Higgs speak in the legislature about his
conviction that gender dysphoria has become "trendy," and how he
believes increased acceptance of it is hurting kids and excluding
parents, former cabinet minister Dorothy Shephard got up and left the
chamber.

In an interview on Power & Politics, Shephard said her departure was a
"long time coming" and that she has had concerns about the
government's approach to certain topics, like Policy 713.
WATCH | N.B. minister resigns over controversial changes to LGBTQ policy:
N.B minister resigns over controversial changes to LGBTQ policy in schools
3 days ago
Duration 8:44
As New Brunswick Premier Blaine Higgs spoke in the legislature
Thursday about his conviction that gender dysphoria has become
'trendy' and increased acceptance of it is hurting kids and excluding
parents, cabinet minister Dorothy Shephard got up and left the
chamber. She later resigned from her position as social development
minister.

"I just decided that it was time," she said. "I didn't feel I could
accomplish anything more in this cabinet with this premier."

Shephard is critical of Higgs' leadership style, saying it is
"difficult" and that he does not "form relationships easily."

Shephard is the third minister to resign from cabinet, the other two
being former education minister Dominic Cardy, who resigned in October
2022 and now sits as an independent, and former deputy premier Robert
Gauvin, who resigned in February 2020 and now sits as a Liberal.

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In response to Shephard's criticism, Higgs said that he recognizes
that decisions made in the legislature will not all be unanimous, but
the majority of caucus agreed they needed to "find a path forward" on
Policy 713.

"If our process is that every time there is a tough issue and we don't
agree with where the majority of caucus had gone to, walking away is
not the solution," he said.
Trans teen concerned about policy change

Alex Harris, a transgender high school student in New Brunswick, said
in an interview on Rosemary Barton Live that he is most concerned
about the change made to the self-identification clause in the policy.

Harris, who is now over the age of 16, came out before the policy
change. At the time, his teachers were able to use his preferred name
and pronouns at school and then use his old information when talking
to his parents.

"It actually made it easier for me to come out to my parents because I
knew I had a safe space at school even if that didn't go well," he
said.
People holding up pride flag in foreground, legistlative assembly in background.
Opponents of the review of Policy 713 demostrate outside the New
Brunswick legislature. (Radio-Canada)

When Harris did come out to his parents he said it went well, but he
said he knows people who may not have the same experience. He said he
has "tons" of friends who came out at school before the changes to
Policy 713 and now have to ask their parents for permission to have
their teachers use their chosen name or pronouns.

"That is terrifying to them because their parents would not be safe to
come out to," said Harris.

Part of the change to the self-identification clause in the policy is
that if students are fearful or object to informing their parents of
their change in preferred name and pronouns, they can work with
guidance counsellors or school social workers and psychologists to get
to a place where they feel comfortable telling them.

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law professor

Harris said this development is "troubling."

"For most people who are concerned about this policy, it's not that
they need to get to a place where they can talk to their parents, it's
that their parents aren't at a place where they will be accepting of
them being trans," he said.
ABOUT THE AUTHOR
Jessica Mundie

CBC Journalist

Jessica Mundie is a journalist with CBC News in Ottawa. She was
previously the Michelle Lang Fellow at the National Post. Reach her by
email jessica.mundie@cbc.ca and on Twitter @jessicamundiee.

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