Monday 18 September 2023

Province doesn't know where extra carbon charge on gas is going

 

Province doesn't know where extra carbon charge on gas is going

It’s a mystery to N.B. officials whether ‘adjustor’ ends up with retailers or refinery

Officials recently told the legislature's public accounts committee that it's impossible to determine who is ending up with revenue from the so-called "carbon cost adjustor," slapped on the price of gas in July.

"Where it shows up between the retailer and the wholesaler, or the wholesaler and the refinery, I don't know," said Tom McFarlane, the deputy minister of natural resources and energy development.

"I'm not aware of the internal prices that go on between them."

McFarlane was fielding questions from Fundy-The Isles-Saint John West Progressive Conservative MLA Andrea Anderson-Mason, who sounded skeptical of the PC government's message that the extra charge would help small gas stations. 

"I'm finding it difficult to believe that the seven cents is going directly into the retailers' pocket," she said.

A woman standing and holding up a piece of paper Fundy-The Isles-Saint John West PC MLA Andrea Anderson-Mason said it's hard to believe the extra money is going to retailers. (New Brunswick Legislative Assembly livestream)

Anderson-Mason peppered McFarlane with questions when he confessed to not knowing who was getting the money.

"Shouldn't we be aware of that, of where that's going?" she asked.

"Where did that seven cents go that the consumer paid over all this time? Who has the benefit of that? Somebody's getting it somewhere. Who's getting the seven cents?" 

Last fall the Higgs government passed legislation giving the Energy and Utilities Board the authority to add the adjustor to the formula it uses to set maximum gasoline prices every week.

It was a response to new federal clean fuel regulations designed to help lower Canada's greenhouse gas emissions.

The regulations reward oil refineries that reduce their carbon intensity — the amount of greenhouse gases they emit in their production process. 

A gas pump with a hand on the handle The adjustor has fluctuated around six to seven cents for a regular unleaded litre of gas since July 1. (Robert Short/CBC)

Companies with refineries like Irving Oil can choose from different emissions-reduction strategies that earn them credits they can sell in a trading market. Those that don't reduce emissions are penalized by being forced to buy credits in that market.

But Irving, because it exports most of its product to the United States, isn't eligible for as many credits.

McFarlane told the committee that because New Brunswick regulates the final price of gasoline charged to consumers, retailers could be "squeezed" by the new rules.

"If we don't have a mechanism to show that price somewhere in the formula, it'll ultimately be the retailer who gets squeezed in the end," he said.

The refinery could pass its added costs to wholesalers, who could then pass them to retail gas stations, who would be prevented from passing it on to customers due to the maximum-price law.

Industry consulted to create formula

The EUB hired the accounting firm Grant Thornton to develop a proposed model for the adjustor. It consulted several industry players to come up with a formula, including Irving Oil, whose refinery is a major supplier of gasoline in the region.

The adjustor has fluctuated around six to seven cents for a regular unleaded litre of gas since July 1. The EUB set it at 5.96 cents last Friday. 

Green Leader David Coon said the adjustor was designed to eliminate the cost of the federal regulations on Irving, taking pressure off the company to reduce its emissions.

Federal Environment Minister Steven Guilbeault said in June the initial cost impact of the regulations should be "very small, incremental," but Irving is assuming a "worst-case scenario" that may not come to pass as the new credit market sorts itself out.

"There's no regulatory reason why the price of gasoline should increase this July," he said.

At the Sept. 8 committee session, MLAs were told that contracts between the Irving refinery, wholesalers and retailers are confidential "commercial arrangements," some long-term and some short-term.

No way to repay customers if adjustor too high

"It's not something we can track. It's private information, it's private companies, so it's not publicly available," said Heather Quinn, the director of the energy division of the Department of Natural Resources and Energy Development.

Anderson-Mason pointed out that Nova Scotia's regulator hired two consultants, one who suggested an adjustor that produced a surcharge similar to New Brunswick, and a second who concluded there would be no price impact all.

The Nova Scotia regulator split the difference and established an adjustor charge in the 3.5-cent range — half that of New Brunswick's.

McFarlane pointed out the EUB plans to review the adjustor formula after six months. 

If it turns out the New Brunswick adjustor was too high or not necessary, McFarlane said there is no way for customers who've been paying it to get their money back. 

"There's not a mechanism to recoup it that I know of," he said. 

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151 Comments
 
 
 
David Amos 
 "Where it shows up between the retailer and the wholesaler, or the wholesaler and the refinery, I don't know," said Tom McFarlane, the deputy minister of natural resources and energy development.

"I'm not aware of the internal prices that go on between them."

Too Too Funny


Not So Funny


Benoit Boudreau 
what a bunch of clowns we have in NB government 
 
 
Shawn Tabor 
Reply to Benoit Boudreau 
Definitely not clowns,,, they are selling the people or the taxpayers out, have been doing it for many years,,,, so a few can get wealthy. The proof is there on many many examples. Someone is going to get hurt. It’s completely out of control. The courts are useless. You have to play the Game Hektor, Quote. Yes sad state of affairs we have in New Brunswick. 
 
 
Shawn Tabor 
Reply to Benoit Boudreau
Have you read how nobody is willing to Join the supreme Court, especially the ones they counted on to fill the positions. Not good 
 
 
Les Cooper 
Reply to Benoit Boudreau 
Thank Gallant. He was the one that didn't submit a plan to Ottawa and left it for Higgs to figure out. 
 
 
 
 
Matt Steele
It was the Federal Government who forced all these endless carbon taxes onto Canadians as many Premiers , including Premier Higgs . tried to stop the imposition of these endless carbon taxes due to the damage it would do to consumers and the economy ; meanwhile China and India with their 1.4 BILLION each populations laugh .  
 
 
Benny Swim
Reply to Matt Steele
Did Trudeau force Higgs to put in an adjustor, that was twice the amount of the one in N.S.? 
 
 
Shawn Tabor 
Reply to Matt Steele
Thats all fine and dandy, but where does the money go. You are deflecting Matt. How come they will not answer Anderson-Mason question. Thats the point.



Shawn Tabor
This is Funny, we have the highest price of milk in the country, hailing from the Dairy Community of the Maritimes, that can’t be challenged, where does that extra money go also. You can not makes this up.



 

New gasoline levy being charged in N.B. to help refiners can be traced despite baffled officials

Consumers paying more than refiners have been charging in some cases

It also shows that at least some charges that have been collected from gasoline customers to pay for increased refinery costs were not used for that. 

Two weeks ago New Brunswick government energy officials told a committee of MLAs it was not clear to them what was happening with a new provincial petroleum charge that took effect in July.  

But deputy natural resources and energy development minister Tom McFarlane said if consumers have been overpaying, there will be no rebates.

A woman sits at a table in front of a laptop computer in the new Brunswick legislature.Fundy-The Isles-Saint John West PC MLA Andrea Anderson-Mason questioned provincial energy officials on who was benefiting from a new petroleum charge on consumers that took effect in July. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

"It's into the system. There's not a mechanism to recoup it that I know of," he told MLAs.

In July New Brunswick motorists began paying a new charge created by the province for petroleum products to help oil refiners deal with new federal "clean-fuel" regulations that are separate from carbon taxes.

The charge is calculated and set by the New Brunswick Energy and Utilities Board. The amount is adjusted weekly but has hovered above and below six cents per litre on gasoline since its creation.  

Charges on diesel have also varied, moving above and below seven cents per litre.

They are significant amounts.

In New Brunswick motorists and businesses buy about one billion litres of gasoline and 400 million litres of diesel each year. Every one cent increase in price adds $15 million in annual costs to New Brunswick users.

Under questioning from Fundy-The Isles-Saint John West Progressive Conservative MLA Andrea Anderson-Mason earlier this month, energy officials acknowledged they have not been tracking if those new charges are going where they were intended — to pay for increased refinery costs caused by the new federal regulation.

"Shouldn't we be aware of that — where that's going?" asked Anderson-Mason, who was told that information is not available to government.

A man and woman sitting next to each other at a brown table Earlier this month New Brunswick government energy officials including natural resources deputy minister Tom McFarlane, left, and the director of the department's energy division Heather Quinn told MLAs they didn't know to whom consumers were paying a new carbon charge. (New Brunswick Legislative Assembly)

"Where it shows up between the retailer and the wholesaler and the refinery, I don't know," said McFarlane.

"It's not something we can track. It's private information, it's private companies, so it's not publicly available," added Heather Quinn, the director of the department's energy division.

But that's not entirely the case.

Publicly available information compiled by the New Brunswick Energy and Utilities Board and the national energy information company Kalibrate does allow tracking of petroleum prices and where charges are added.

That information shows while the new cost-of-carbon charge levied on diesel in New Brunswick has been fully going to refiners as intended, charges on gasoline have been partially diverted to other uses.

Under current New Brunswick petroleum regulations consumers pay a price for gasoline and diesel that includes a base or "benchmark" amount set by large-scale trading in U.S. petroleum markets. Added to that are allowable wholesale and retail markups.

Separate from those markups, retailers can also add in the cost of having fuel delivered to their locations — but only the exact amount they have been billed.

Provincial and federal sales, excise and carbon taxes are then folded in.

An aerial view of the Irving Oil property feature large barrels with the letters spelling Irving.   By agreement several oil refiners wholesale products to customers from loading racks at the Irving Oil refinery. As a group their markup on gasoline prices has increased about 3.5 cents since July, although consumers have been getting charged six cents more. (Mike Heenan/CBC)

In June, prior to the new cost of carbon charge, wholesale and retail markups on gasoline in New Brunswick were limited to just under 15 cents per litre. Since July, with the new charge added, allowable markups have risen to about 21 cents for gasoline and 22 cents for diesel plus delivery costs.

Since the cost of carbon charge was introduced, consumers have been paying full 21- and 22-cent markups in most of the province's petroleum markets according to pricing information collected and published daily by Kalibrate.   

However, while the new higher markups on diesel have all flowed to refiners as intended, that has not been the case with gasoline.

In August in Saint John according to Kalibrate's data, tankers being loaded with gasoline at the Irving Oil refinery were paying markups of about 3.5 cents per litre higher than they had in June.   

That is only a portion of the extra six cents consumers are paying in new gasoline charges to help refiners. The balance has flowed to wholesalers and retailers.

McFarlane said although his department is in the dark about whether consumers are being fairly treated by the new levies, he told MLAs the Energy and Utilities Board has committed to reviewing whether amounts should be adjusted soon.

"I don't think the EUB would say we got it 100 per cent right," said McFarlane. "What they've said is they are going to review it before the end of the year."

ABOUT THE AUTHOR


Robert Jones

Reporter

Robert Jones has been a reporter and producer with CBC New Brunswick since 1990. His investigative reports on petroleum pricing in New Brunswick won several regional and national awards and led to the adoption of price regulation in 2006.

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164 Comments
 
 
 
David Amos 
 "McFarlane said although his department is in the dark about whether consumers are being fairly treated by the new levies, he told MLAs the Energy and Utilities Board has committed to reviewing whether amounts should be adjusted soon.

"I don't think the EUB would say we got it 100 per cent right," said McFarlane. "What they've said is they are going to review it before the end of the year."

Yea Right Perhaps McFarlane will explain why NB Power is suing the EUB and why my name is at the top of the complaint

 


James Johnstone 
The Deputy Natural Resources and Energy Development Minister, Tom McFarlane, is hired by the government. The Deputy Minister is not elected by the voters of New Brunswick. Where is the Minister of Natural Resources and Energy. Why is he not answering these questions. Is he not responsible for his department? If there are questions to be answered then go to the top official and hold them accountable. 
 
 
Kyle Woodman 
Reply to James Johnstone  
Mike lives in Nova Scotia. 
 
 
David Amos

Reply to Kyle Woodman
Perhaps thats the reason Mikey don't call and don't write  
 
 
James Johnstone 
Reply to Kyle Woodman
Well he has done a great job of pulling the wool over everyone's eyes. Great talker, he has learned well. 
 
 
 
 

Jos Allaire
All these dissident PC MLAs could decide to run as independents and split the CONservative vote thereby insuring a Higgs government defeat. 
 
 
Andrew Clarkson 
Reply to Jos Allaire 
Be careful what you wish for, with age you find that the grass is very rarely any greener on the other side of the fence! 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Jos Allaire 
If you wish to recall I have been saying that since Higgy demoted his first 5 Cabinet Ministers once he won his majority   
 
 
G. Timothy Walton
Reply to Andrew Clarkson
There's always a difference in how much fertilizer is used. 
 
 
Kyle Woodman 
Reply to David Amos
You certainly have. At least Jake Stewart was smart enough to get out when he had a chance. His new MP job must be way better than dealing with Higgs. 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to G. Timothy Walton
C'est Vrai
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Kyle Woodman
Of that I have no doubt but Stewart and his new boss cannot get away from me so easily 
 
 
Kyle Woodman 
Reply to David Amos
Of that I have no doubt.
 
 
 
 

Jos Allaire
While we are diverted by trifling issues, like magicians, the powers that be snatch our watches, wallets and whatever we have left, including the shirt off our back
 
 
Dan Lee
Reply to Jos Allaire 
definatly need a robin hood type here in nb.....................
 
 
David Amos 

Reply to Dan Lee
What am I chopped liver???  
 
 
 
 
Stanley Rubic  
" It's private information, it's private companies, so it's not publicly available..."

Imo, if a company accepts corporate welfare and special tax breaks, it's not a private matter. Subject to total transparency.

 
Shawn Tabor 
Reply to Stanley Rubic 
Now your on to something big. Keep it up  
 
 
Stanley Rubic
Reply to Shawn Tabor
Imo, cronyism is a huge problem that affects everyone maybe more than most know.  
 
 
Shawn Tabor 
Reply to Stanley Rubic 
Its truly out of control. 
 
 
David Amos

Reply to Stanley Rubic 
Everybody knows The problem is nobody cares as they all try to climb on the gravy train.

IMHO We get the governments we deserve when apathy and greed rule the day

 
 
 
 
Jos Allaire
I'm amazed by the transparency of this government. 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Jos Allaire
Surely you jest 
 
 
Jos Allaire
Reply to David Amos
I sure do❗ 
 
 
 
 
Rosco holt  
Why am I not surprise?


David Amos
Reply to Rosco holt 
Because you have been watching this circus for years



 
Shawn Tabor
This does not sit well, the cat is out of the bag. Now what, we all know nothing will come out of this. Quote: Sad state of affairs we have in New Brunswick. Been going on for many many years. 
 
 
Shawn Tabor 
Reply to Shawn Tabor
Now , what is to become of the price of Milk. Highest in Canada, and can not be challenged. Can’t make this stuff up. 
 
 
A Thomas 
Reply to Shawn Tabor
not just NB, we have the same thing (same party in power also) where we have been taken to the cleaners with the extras added on to the carbon tax in July. We increased over double what the CT actually was, the extra went to the oil companies and the province, we were shafted and they believed we would blame all the increase on the Pm because they told us he was evil and to blame. Same as the alcohol tax increase which went from the federal 0.7 cents a beer to over $2 a case in NS, they got caught when NSLB increased the price 2 days early and blamed JT for the increase. Politics at play to increase money taken from our pockets while blaming others for their own grab. 
 
 
robert jordan 
Reply to A Thomas 
thats the conservitive policy canada wide blame libs get in power privatise everything give corps breaks and deregulate people should be looking at PP voting record instead of falling for republican style bogeyman politics wih no policies
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Shawn Tabor
Quote: The courts are useless. You have to play the Game Hektor 
 
 
Shawn Tabor 
Reply to David Amos
Sad,,, but true. They still call it a democracy. These people get tax breaks, subsidies forgivable loans and more, of or from a pot of Taxpayers money. Then after that it all kept in secret. How much more proof is needed. Big business especially, but even mediium and small businesses as well. I think the population is getting fed up. Someone is going go off their rails and somebody is going to get hurt. Can say, They had it coming. Then the flags will fly half mast again. You can not make this stuff up. Sit back snd relax, poor yourselves a cup of GST and enjoy this type of Circus. 
 
 
David Amos

Reply to Shawn Tabor
Calm down Hektor 
 
 
 
 

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