"Why not become a circus clown?"
Carney's stay with Liberal critic not a conflict, bank says
The Bank of Canada tried to quell questions about its governor's impartiality and judgment Monday, saying Mark Carney was not afoul of conflict rules by vacationing in the summer at the cottage of the Liberal finance critic.
The central bank confirmed a weekend report that Carney stayed at Scott Brison's Nova Scotia cottage while key members of the Liberal party were courting him for the leadership.
Spokesman Jeremy Harrison said there was nothing improper in the visit, and that bank duties were not discussed.
"The Bank of Canada's general counsel, who is responsible for enforcing the bank's conflict of interest policy, has assessed that this visit does not breach the bank's conflict of interest guidelines in any way," Harrison said.
"Neither the Bank of Canada, nor governor Carney, have an actual or potential commercial or business relationship with Mr. Brison."
Harrison added that Carney and Brison had been friends for about a decade and that the visit to the MP's cottage at Cheverie, N.S., cannot "be defined as partisan or political activity."
Brison confirmed the friendship, which began in 2004 when Carney was an associate deputy minister at Finance and the Nova Scotia MP was the Liberal public works minister, but refused to elaborate about the visit.
"We entertain friends often at our Cheverie home. It is not our intention to publicly discuss personal time with friends in our private space," he said.
Carney was at a meeting of finance ministers in Meech Lake, Que. Monday to give an update on the state of the country's economy and the risk posed by the U.S. fiscal situation, but left without talking to reporters.
Carney's future was subject of speculation
Carney is used to being courted, most successfully by the finance minister of Great Britain, who has convinced him to become the next governor of the Bank of England in July.
But the report that Carney had been courted for the Liberal leadership — particularly the suggestion he did not immediately shut down the entreaties — has placed him and the bank in a murky area of ethics, causing some to review his past speeches and policy decisions for signs of taint.
Desjardins Capital Markets economist Jimmy Jean noted the "chatter," but called "reckless" one assertion that the central bank might have "intentionally kept monetary policy too restrictive (recently) such as to tarnish the Conservative party's economic track record."
Finance Minister Jim Flaherty, who appointed Carney to the job in 2008, shut down any questions on the issue when asked Sunday night, and refused comment during a press conference at the finance ministers' meeting Monday.
Several Bay Street economists, who asked not to be quoted, said they saw no evidence that Carney had conducted monetary policy in any way other than impartially.
Carney has acknowledged in the past to being approached by Liberals for the job, but maintained he was not interested, at one time jokingly responding: "Why not become a circus clown?"
In the Globe and Mail article, Carney said he had been approached by "different people, different parties."
The article quotes Carney as saying that he never sought the job and did nothing to encourage suitors.
"Nobody did anything on my behalf. I never asked anybody to do anything. I never made an outgoing phone call. I never encouraged anybody to do anything."
Liberal MP John McCallum, also a former finance critic and private sector economist, said he had a short conversation with Carney in August because he had heard the speculation, which he said he found "unusual."
He said Carney neither confirmed or denied interest.
"I wasn't lobbying, I just casually mentioned it."
The Bank of Canada's conflict-of-interest policy cautions against the "appearance of impropriety," and says employees offered hospitality or other benefits should ask themselves: "Does it feel right?"
Other questions to be considered: "Is there a chance that this could reflect negatively on me or on the Bank? What would a reasonable person think about my actions? Would I be embarrassed if others knew I took this action?"
The policy does not ban outside political activity. "Employees are not excluded from participating in political activities as long as their actions are not likely to be interpreted by the public as being representative of Bank policy."
Mark Carney to launch bid for the Liberal leadership in Edmonton on Thursday
Carney soft-launched his campaign for the leadership on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart Monday
Mark Carney will launch his candidacy for the Liberal Party leadership at an event in Edmonton on Thursday, according to a notice from Calgary Skyview MP George Chahal.
The former governor of the Bank of Canada and the Bank of England will join Ottawa MP Chandra Arya, Nova Scotia MP Jaime Battiste and Former Liberal MP Frank Baylis, who have already declared, in the race.
"In an era of global challenges, in a time of economic opportunity, Mark Carney has the experience required and the leadership skills needed to meet those challenges and take advantage of the opportunities," Chahal said in an email to supporters.
"Mark Carney is not a career politician; his commitment has been to country, community, faith and family," he added.
The announcement comes two days after Carney seemingly soft-launched his campaign for the leadership during an appearance on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart on Monday evening.
The Liberal Party will choose their next leader — and Canada's next prime minister — on March 9. Hopefuls have until Jan. 23 to declare their candidacy. People can register with the party to vote in the leadership race up until Jan. 27.
Chahal's announcement bills Carney as a Liberal candidate in the mould of Lester B. Pearson, "a great public servant who sought elected office after an accomplished career."
Despite Alberta being a Conservative stronghold, Carney is launching his campaign in the province to draw attention to his roots there — a place where he grew up and went to high school. Carney was born in Fort Smith, N.W.T.
"Growing up in Alberta has instilled in Mark the spirit of hard work and perseverance that unites us all across the province," the Chahal's announcement said. "This background gives him a unique perspective to best represent the interests of all Canadians."
The news comes a day after Innovation Minister François-Philippe Champagne and former B.C. premier Christy Clark each announced they were not running.
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Teasing a Liberal leadership bid, Mark Carney talks change, economy with The Daily Show
'In a situation like this, you need change. You need to address the economy,' Carney tells Jon Stewart
Mark Carney appeared on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart on Monday to talk about what kind of Liberal leadership candidate he would make, Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre and the economic threat Canada faces from the incoming Trump administration.
During the interview, Stewart tried several times to get the former governor of the Bank of Canada and the Bank of England to formally announce his candidacy in the race to succeed Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, but Carney coyly leapt over those hurdles.
"Sir, may I recommend to you, with your charm and debonair wit, yet strong financial backbone, that you offer yourself as … have you offered yourself as leader," Stewart said.
Carney joked back that he "just started thinking about it" when Stewart brought it up.
Stewart said that should he win the race, he would struggle to secure victory for the incumbent Liberals because he would be saddled with the policies of the last decade.
"Let's say the candidate wasn't part of the government. Let's say the candidate did have a lot of economic experience. Let's say the candidate did deal with crisis. Let's say the candidate had a plan to deal with the challenges in the here and now," Carney said.
"You sneaky; you're running as an outsider," Stewart said.
"I am an outsider," Carney replied.
Stewart held up a side-by-side picture of Trudeau and Poilievre and suggested the Conservative leader looked "like a villain in a Karate Kid movie, there is something very off-putting," before asking Carney what Poilievre is like in person.
"You're not far off," Carney replied, adding that Poilievre is the "type of politician who tends to be a lifelong politician," who worships the market despite having never worked in the private sector and who sees "opportunity in tragedy to push an agenda."
In discussing Trudeau's decision to step down so the Liberal Party could hold a leadership race, Carney said changing leaders gives the party "a chance" to win the next federal election.
Trump tariffs and being absorbed by the U.S.
Stewart suggested that a number of Liberal cabinet ministers have said they are not going to run for the Liberal leadership because "they fear the headwinds in this election."
Carney defended members of cabinet — including Foreign Affair Mélanie Joly, Finance Minister Dominic LeBlanc and Labour Minister Steven MacKinnon — for deciding not to run.
"They are not running, in part because there's a crisis right now because of the threat of the Trump tariffs," Carney said. It's "country before party and personal ambition — and it's absolutely right."
President-elect Donald Trump has promised to impose 25 per cent tariffs on all Canadian imports when he assumes office unless Canada enacts measures to tackle illegal immigration and drug smuggling into the United States
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When it comes to tariffs, Carney said, "we have to prepare for it," and pointed out that if the United States does not import crude oil from Canada, its next best option is Venezuela
Asked what Canadians make of Canada becoming the 51st state, Carney said: "Bottom line: it's not going to happen, due respect."
"We find you very attractive, but we're not moving in with you. It's not you, it's us," Carney said, adding that Canada and the U.S. can instead "be friends with benefits … but we're not gonna commit all the way."
Those benefits, Carney said, include trade and defence.
Carney on the economy and the carbon tax
"I think in a situation like this you need change. You need to address the economy. We've got an economic crisis because of what Mr. Trump is about to do, or saying he is about to do. We also have challenges in housing, cost of living," he said. "We need to get the economy moving."
Carney said that Canadians have suffered under inflation, that wages have not kept pace with inflation, housing is expensive and there is a broad concern about the coming Trump tariffs.
"And truth be told, the government has been, not as focused on those issues as it could be," he said. "We need to focus on them immediately; that can happen now, and that's what this election is gonna to be about."
Carney was asked if being left holding the "carbon-tax bag" will make running to be prime minister more difficult than it will be for Poilievre.
The former central banker said it's important for Canada to make sure we're addressing climate change, and that Canada is "doing our bit, making our companies more competitive," because after Trump leaves office, the U.S. is probably going to "care about it again."
When that time comes around, Carney said Canada needs to be in a position where it cares about climate change and has done something about it.
"But we need to do it in a way that Canadians today are not paying the price," he said, without defending the carbon tax or pledging to keep the policy.
"The vast majority of our emissions in Canada come from our industry," Carney added. "In fact, almost 30 per cent of our emissions in Canada come from the production and shipment of oil to the United States."
Part of tackling climate change in Canada is "cleaning that up, getting those emissions down, more than changing, in a very short period of time, the way Canadians live," Carney said.
Conservative Deputy Leader Melissa Lantsman issued a statement in response to the appearance, saying that Carney is a "just-like-Justin insider," who is trying to "convince Canadians that he is not responsible for the policies that he and Justin Trudeau forced on Canadians."
As a longtime liberal insider, adviser and chair of Justin Trudeau's so-called Leader's Task Force on Economic Growth, she called Carney "the furthest thing possible from an outsider."
"Carbon Tax Carney is a hypocrite. He can't hide from the truth. He's just like Justin," she said.
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Carson Jerema: Mark Carney will march us straight into an American disaster
He isn't taking the Trump threat seriously
Mark Carney needs to stop talking about American President Donald Trump because the likely soon to be prime minister is going to lead us straight into economic oblivion, if not into a full blown annexation crisis. The best way for our leaders to deal with Trump’s toxic threats to absorb Canada, or to wipe out the auto industry, is to essentially stop talking in public immediately. Instead, Liberals are gleeful at the opportunity that after nine years in office, they get to campaign against Trump.
The U.S. president’s comments about taking over Canada haven’t sounded like mere trolling for weeks now, but what does Carney think the Americans actually want? To gain leverage in free trade negotiations with an overly aggressive opening position? Access to Canadian resources? For Canada to tighten up its border security? For Canada to spend more on defence? Free vacations in Banff?
Nope, none of that, according to Carney. What Americans really desire is universal health care.
“I think Americans forgot about the need to provide health care to all their citizens. I think that Americans built their social safety net with enormous holes in it, that tens of millions of people fell through,” he said in Winnipeg on Tuesday. “There’s a backlash, and that backlash is leading to them pushing out against us.”
Liberals remain, bafflingly, committed to the idea that Canada’s health system is somehow the envy of the world, and that any country that lacks a similar policy risks descending into chaos.
At his leadership launch last month, Carney said he would offer “experience versus incompetence,” and his boosters in the media are enthralled with his background as a central banker, but so far, he sounds pretty much like any other Liberal.
Whatever the failures of the American health-care system, Canada’s consistently ranks near the middle or bottom when compared to other similar countries, on metrics such as access, wait times and the number of doctors and nurses. Canada does rank highly on how much it spends, though.
As for whether wealth is shared around enough in the U.S., at least there is wealth. In 2021, median income in Canada was about US$50,000 (C$70,000), compared to US$70,000 (C$99,000) down south. What’s more, the median employment income in every province is lower than every American state, even the poorest ones.
Maybe instead of lecturing about social safety nets, Carney could explain what policies he could bring that would let Canadians enjoy similar wage growth to the Americans.
He could also avoid needlessly antagonizing Trump, because, like it or not, he is who we have to deal with.
When, on Tuesday, Carney did address the American president’s 51st state comments directly, it wasn’t just to affirm Canadian sovereignty or to exercise the sort of strategic non-engagement that would benefit this country. He mocked Trump. “I view this as the sort of Voldemort of comments,” he said, adding, “Like I will not even repeat it, but you know what I’m talking about.”
Then on Wednesday night in Kelowna, B.C., Carney again mocked the president. “Can we influence Trump? A bit. But then we have to pretend we didn’t,” he said to raucous laughter from his supporters. “Don’t repeat that.”
This is clownish behaviour from Carney, and an indication that he doesn’t represent a break from Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, but a continuation of the Liberals’ complete lack of seriousness. For example, shortly after the American presidential election, Trudeau said that electing Trump instead of his opponent, Democrat Kamala Harris, was evidence of widespread sexism in the U.S. He later went on CNN and, brimming with Liberal moral superiority, said, “One of the ways we define ourselves most easily is, well, we’re not American.”
Carney could have looked at the outgoing prime minister’s remarks as ineffective and charted a different path. But, apparently, the likely winner in next month’s Liberal leadership vote thinks Trudeau is worth emulating.
Whether or not Trump deserves derision and scorn — and he does — is entirely beside the point. It is necessary for any Canadian prime minister to deal with whoever is in the Oval Office in good faith, and you can bet Trump is paying attention to what they say. Any astute observer will tell you that the way to deal with Trump is to flatter him, make concessions that allow him to claim a win and otherwise keep quiet.
The president and those around him have made it clear that they intensely dislike Trudeau. That isn’t to say that someone that has more deft with Trump would be more successful at negotiating, but certainly mocking him at every opportunity is ill advised. Trump’s upending of trade relations and lack of respect for sovereignty is beyond unacceptable, but how we handle this moment will determine what happens next.
Carney’s preening about Canada’s “social safety net” may help him win the Liberal leadership, but it is an attitude that is positively dangerous for dealing with the Americans.
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Key moments from the London North Centre all-candidates debate
The five candidates visited CBC London on Tuesday, Oct. 15
This week, CBC London is hosting all-candidates debates in the region's four ridings. Today, the candidates for London North Centre joined London Morning host Rebecca Zandbergen to talk about the issues that matter to their constituents.
They are: Liberal candidate Peter Fragiskatos, Green Party candidate Carol Dyck, Conservative Party candidate Sarah Bokhari, NDP candidate Dirka Prout and People's Party of Canada candidate, Salim Mansur.
Here are the five key moments:
Conservative candidate begins debate with poem
Conservative candidate begins debate with poemNDP candidate calls London's housing crisis 'crazy'
NDP candidate calls London's housing crisis 'crazy'PPC candidate boasts his party rejects 'fake alarmism' on climate change
PPC candidate boasts his party rejects 'fake alarmism' on climate changeLondon
North Centre People's Liberal candidate calls out 'parachute candidate'
Liberal candidate calls out 'parachute candidate'Addressing poverty must be a non-partisan issue, says Green Party candidate
Addressing poverty must be a non-partisan issue, says Green Party candidate
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Greg Weston: Can the Liberals really snag Mark Carney for leader?
The Bank of Canada governor is being heavily wooed, but is he ready to give up saving the world economy?
A group of influential federal Liberals is trying to convince Mark Carney to quit his job as the governor of the Bank of Canada to run for the leadership of their party. Seriously.
So far, Carney, who is something of an international economic superstar, hasn't publicly shown any interest in the proposition, but behind closed doors, apparently, he isn't giving a decisive No either.
Social media sites promoting a "draft Carney" movement have popped up on Facebook and Twitter in recent weeks, and Liberal circles have been rife with rumours of his possible candidacy for months.
That Carney would generate so much ado about potentially nothing shouldn't surprise anyone.
At 48, he is whip-smart, handsome, media-savvy, bilingual and thoroughly engaging with a self-deprecating humor.
He can also claim roots across the country: He was born in the Northwest Territories, grew up In Edmonton, and has spent much of his working life in Ontario.
More than anything, though, at a time when the economy continues to dominate Canadian politics, the Harvard-educated economist is seen as one of the world's most respected central bankers, widely credited with helping to steer Canada through the 2008 crash and back to relative prosperity.
In 2010, Time Magazine named Carney one of the world's 100 most influential people. And he recently became the first central bank governor to address a convention of the Canadian Autoworkers union and received standing ovations at both ends of his speech.
Carney now splits his time between running the Bank of Canada and heading the Swiss-based Financial Stability Board, which is charged with overhauling the international banking system to try to prevent another global crisis.
In short, Carney could well be the Liberals' dream candidate — and Stephen Harper's worst nightmare.
Why do it?
The past two election campaigns have turned in part on the Conservative message that in these times of economic turbulence, the country needs a steady hand on the tiller.
On that issue, successive Liberal leaders Stéphane Dion and Michael Ignatieff were found wanting.
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But how could the Conservatives campaign seriously against someone who has been one of those steady hands?
If anything about Carney's possible candidacy is giving some Liberals pause, it is not so much whether he will run for the leadership, but why on Earth he would even think about it.
Pollster Nik Nanos says Canadian voters are likely to have similar concerns, and that Carney's biggest challenge in entering politics may be explaining his motives for doing it.
Carney has two years left in his terms as both bank governor and head of the international banking reform board.
He would then still be only 50, and the world of international finance and rich corporate directorships would be virtually his for the picking.
Why would he walk away from all that for a chance to become Liberal leader and perhaps some day prime minister?
Now or never
A number of people who know him well say the proposition isn't all that out of the question.
They point out that Carney already left a super-lucrative career at the upper echelons of the Wall Street investment giant Goldman Sachs to join the Canadian public service in 2003, first as deputy governor of the Bank of Canada, then as associate deputy minister of finance. (He wasn't made bank governor until 2008.)
One friend says of Carney: "He comes from a public service ethic — his dad was a school teacher and professor — and he [Mark] honestly likes public service."
Of course, if Carney does decide to give up saving the world for a chance to rescue the Liberal party, he will have to actually run for the leadership — and spend the next three years of his life on the rubber chicken circuit waiting for an election call.
Justin Trudeau is expected to announce his candidacy next week, and at least four others are seriously testing the waters for support and money.
Trudeau has the ability to mount a ferocious grass-roots campaign, fuelled by social media — he has 150,000 followers on Twitter alone — and his own charismatic attraction.
Liberal strategists I spoke to this week seem to agree on two things: If Carney decides to run, he will be a formidable candidate, and he can't wait much longer to begin organizing.
Will the Liberals get their dream candidate to lead them from the electoral wilderness? Or are they just plain dreaming?
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The making of the boy from Fort Smith
In the first of a week-long special series, Philip Aldrick travels to Canada to find out what made Mark Carney 'the outstanding central banker of his generation’ .
In downtown Toronto, Ki – a slick Japanese-themed bar in the upmarket Brookfield Place – is throwing a party for its regular customers. Complimentary champagne is flowing and free sushi canapes circulating. It’s 6pm and the patio is crammed with bankers.
Craig, a top private equity fund manager, is swigging on a bottle of Sapporo beer. “Do you know how much he left on the table when he took that job?” he asks. “C$20m [£12.5m]. I’ve done some charity work with him, and we estimate he’s worth C$3m to C$4m. But he gave up a fortune.”
The man in question is Mark Carney, the 48-year-old former head of the Bank of Canada and, from next Monday, the new Governor of the Bank of England.
Carney is about to become, by common consent, the third most powerful man in Britain and make history as the first foreigner to take the helm at the Bank in its 319 years.
But mention his name to the banking brotherhood at Ki and the conversation quickly turns to the same subject. Craig, it turns out, may have been conservative. A divisional investment banking head at Royal Bank of Canada puts Carney’s forgone fortune at C$50m.
One person who should know is Tim Hodgson, who worked with Carney at Goldman Sachs, their paths crossing in New York between 1998 and 2000. Later, he became chief executive of the Canada operation in Toronto. Later still, in 2010, he joined Carney as a special adviser at the central bank.
“He made a monstrous economic sacrifice,” Hodgson, now managing partner at Alignvest Capital Management in Toronto, says.
Talk of financial sacrifice for a man who will be on a £624,000 pay and pension package, plus an annual £250,000 living allowance, when he starts at the Bank on July 1 may seem odd but Hodgson argues that understanding the pay “sacrifice” is an important part of understanding Carney and where his ambitions may lie.
Today, The Telegraph launches a unique series on the man who will be Governor. Speaking to friends, economic experts and those in the UK awaiting his arrival, a picture becomes clear of a man who is obsessed with policy, a markets man who is no stranger to the world of banking and a figure who knows his own mind.
To understand how he will approach the job in Threadneedle Street you need to know about his career in Canada and what it tells us about his character.
Carney had been a managing director at Goldman for just a year when he quit to join the Bank of Canada as a deputy governor in 2003. A good Goldman MD in Toronto would be on “at least C$2m a year”, the RBC banker says. As Governor, he earned C$508,000 last year.
“Mark left Goldman right at the inflection point in his career. He was about to go places at Goldman,” Hodgson recalls.
Goldman has a long tradition of bankers moving into public service but Carney was different in one important regard. “By and large those people all did it after they made a lot of money,” Hodgson points out. “Mark left before he made a lot of money.”
Hodgson raises pay not out of prurience but because, to him, it is the most visible proof of what you hear time and time again in conversations about Carney: “He wants to serve.”
Another friend and top banker says: “He’s always kicking my butt – and others – chiding me a bit, saying, 'Hey hotshot, when are you going to make a real difference rather than sitting around in an office all day looking at a screen?’ That’s what he’s like.”
Carney’s sense of public service was instilled in him from an early age by his father. The third of four children in a strong Catholic family, Carney was born on March 16, 1965, in Fort Smith – a backwoods town in the Northwest territories of Canada.
Carney played basketball at his high school in Edmonton and earned a reputation as a very capable ice hockey goalie
They lived in a simple home not far from the school where his father, Bob, was headmaster. His mother, Verlie, would make the children fur-lined parkas to fend off the bitter cold in winter.
When he was six, the family moved to Edmonton, a city of 800,000 and home to the Oilers ice hockey team where the great Wayne Gretzky played throughout Carney’s youth.
Carney joined the local Catholic school, St Francis Xavier, and Bob took a civil service job in cultural affairs with the local government, later becoming a professor of education history at the University of Alberta. After Carney turned 10, Verlie, too, returned to the classroom.
“Our house was filled with books and there was lots of discussion on the issues of the day,” Carney told Readers Digest Canada after it named him Man of the Year in 2011.
School life came easy to the young Carney. He excelled both at sport and academically. At 17, he won a place on Reach for the Top – Canada’s high school version of University Challenge and, hinting at things to come, was made student council treasurer. He was also a “jock”, playing basketball and, on the ice, earning a reputation as a very capable hockey goalie.
Carney excelled academically. At 17, he won a place on Reach for the Top – Canada’s high school version of University Challenge.
Hard work won him a partial scholarship to Harvard and in 1984 he headed south to study English literature and maths. Inspiration led him on a different path, though. After attending lectures by the great Canadian economist, J K Galbraith, he switched courses – graduating with high honours in economics.
Money was always tight. According to his room mate Peter Chiarelli, now managing director of the Boston Bruins ice hockey team: “He was on financial aid and he’d watch his pennies, always worrying about maintaining his grades for his scholarship.”
In the summers back in Edmonton, Carney worked as a labourer for a local hospital. He even took a term off to build up his tuition fund.
He planned to move straight on to a masters and then into academia like his father but the bill run up at Harvard led him to Goldman. “I felt it would be better to work for a few years and pay that off,” he told Reader’s Digest.
Carney was true to his word, quitting the investment bank debt-free after four years in the London and Tokyo offices for a masters and PhD in economics at Oxford in 1991.
There he fused his two great interests – markets and public policy.
“The policy implications of his work were always a key concern of his,” Meg Meyer, his DPhil supervisor, says. “Even as a student it was his goal, after gaining experience in the private sector, to enter policy-making.”
It culminated in his 1995 thesis, The Dynamic Advantage of Competition, an investigation of the channels through which domestic corporate competition can affect a country’s global competitiveness.
In a conclusion establishing him as an arch internationalist, he argued that economies were best served by businesses with a large global presence but a smaller national one.
Controverisally, his main policy proposal was “a guarded preference for foreign acquirers over domestic ones”.
Oxford was also where he met his wife, Diana Fox – the daughter of a wealthy English pig farmer who was studying the economics of third world development.
According to Carney, he was smitten after watching her on the hockey pitch. They married in 1995 as he was finishing his thesis, which he hoped would be the springboard for that longed-for career in academia. But then Goldman came knocking again.
His Goldman career was unconventional. Graduate recruits from Harvard tend to get client-facing roles but Carney’s first stint was in the bank’s less glamorous credit and risk management back office. When he rejoined Goldman in 1995, it was to become a proper “banker” – in the sovereign risk department in charge of bond issuance by the newly capitalist nations of post-Glasnost eastern Europe.
There, he came under the wing of Peter Sutherland, Ireland’s former attorney general who had just completed two years as director-general of the World Trade Organisation. Sutherland, a former BP chairman, would prove to be an early mentor for the rising star.
Colleagues remember Carney as a talented banker but not one who stood out in the rarefied Goldman crowd. Contemporaries rose more quickly and, despite his academic qualifications, Carney did not make managing director for seven years.
Rather than sheer brilliance, those alongside him believe, it was Carney’s unusual career path that laid the foundations for his stellar civil service career to come. His “credit skills” and experience of the sovereign debt markets “made him uniquely qualified to be thinking about global risk”, Hodgson says.
By 1998, Carney was weary of the endless travel and wanted to go home. He put in a transfer request to the Canada desk, then based in New York, and switched to a more traditional corporate finance role. In 2000, the desk was moved to Toronto. At 35, he was back home and ready to start a family.
Public service kept calling, though. In 2003, according to Canadian folklore, Carney spotted a job advert in The Economist for deputy governor at the Bank of Canada and applied. The ad was supposedly a box-ticking exercise because the BoC already had someone in mind. Nobody knew Carney. But, so the tale goes, he was so impressive at interview they had no choice but to hire him.
It’s a nice story but an apocryphal one. Carney had already made an impression on Paul Martin, then finance minister, and David Dodge, Carney’s predecessor as central bank governor, according to Ralph Goodale, deputy leader of Canada’s Liberal party and the country’s finance minister between 2003 and 2006.
They first encountered him as a Goldman adviser over plans to privatise Ontario’s hydroelectric power generator, Hydro One. Although the plan was dropped, Carney made his mark. “They were obviously impressed with the potential,” Goodale says.
The job Carney applied for was the number two post – the senior deputy role – but he didn’t get it. It went to an internal candidate, Paul Jenkins. Still, Dodge had seen enough. Carney was instead parachuted into one of the Bank’s four junior deputy governor posts. Finally, he was in public service.
Carney was swiftly earmarked for bigger things, with Dodge reputedly telling a friend at the time that he had “just hired my successor”.
But he didn’t last long at the Bank. A little over a year after joining, the Liberal government poached him. With Martin as Prime Minister and Goodale as finance minister, Carney was made the finance department’s second highest ranking civil servant, where he set about policy change with vigour.
“Dodge was reluctant to let him go,” Goodale says in his office in Ottawa’s green-roofed, mock gothic Parliament building. “We all agreed that probably at some future point Mark would be the governor of the Bank – that seemed to be where the career path was going. But in the meantime it would be useful to him and very useful to us if he had a stint in the number two position in the department of finance.”
Goodale gave him “my three most challenging tasks”, he says. To sell the government’s remaining 15pc stake in PetroCanada, to design an “effective climate change plan” and to tackle Canada’s “chronic” productivity problem.
Carney’s climate change and productivity programmes were well received but dropped when Conservatives came to power.
However, using his best investment banking instincts, he came up with an innovative sales plan for Petro-Canada that “turned out to be the single most profitable transaction of its kind in Canadian experience”, Goodale says, in words that will reverberate with the UK Coalition as it looks to sell off its £65bn stakes in Lloyds Banking Group and the Royal Bank of Scotland.
Carney structured the deal differently from any previous privatisation. According to Goodale: “The financial media panned it, saying it was going to drive the price down, that the government was going to lose money on the transaction.”
Carney and the government stuck to their guns in the face of withering scepticism and were vindicated by the C$3.1bn sale. From that moment, he cemented his place as the Liberals’ favourite son.
The first real threat to his ambitions at the BoC came in 2006, when the Liberals lost power after a series of corruption scandals. Carney had grown so close to the party that people were openly questioning his political neutrality. With Stephen Harper’s Conservatives in power, there was a big risk he could lose everything he had been working towards.
“I actually wondered if [finance minister Jim] Flaherty and Harper would nix him for that reason – that he had been recruited and risen so successfully under a Liberal administration that he couldn’t possibly fit with their view of the world,” Goodale says. “It’s a tribute to him that he didn’t get sideswiped by politics.”
He needn’t have worried. Flaherty named Carney as Dodge’s successor in 2007, reversing his earlier defeat to Jenkins, the BoC’s internal candidate. He started as Governor in February 2008 – just seven months before the world fell apart.
When Governor of the Bank of Canada he took a ride on a dog sled before the start of a G7 finance ministers meeting in Iqaluit
He saw the crisis coming early. Always one to conduct his own research rather than rely on others, he travelled to the US in 2007 to view the sub-prime storm first-hand. He interviewed traders and examined the assets in AAA-rated CDOs, quickly recognising the scale of the problem.
Those fears were underlined when Canada suffered its own Northern Rock moment in summer 2007. Canada’s banks needed to roll over asset-backed commercial paper (ABCP) but, with the inter-bank markets frozen, there was a panic on.
Carney, still at the finance department, decided the market needed to be restructured to clear the mess and banks would have to bear losses. The only way the plan would work, though, was if all the major players signed up.
“It was a matter of bringing institutions together and Mark was quite influential in terms of playing a significant role in those negotiations,” says Gordon Nixon, RBC chief executive.
However, one bank, TD, was proving an obstacle because it had no ABCP exposure. Carney is reputed to have strong-armed TD chief executive Ed Clark into the deal.
Nixon recalls the exchanges as diplomatically as he can: “Mark is very cool, calm and collected. But when he has a strong view of things, he has a very forceful personality.”
Carney’s successful handling of the ABCP crisis won over even his sceptics in the Conservatives. But harder times lay ahead.
Carney started at the Bank of Canada with a bang. Alert to the dangers of the crisis, he reacted fast. In March 2008, he cut rates by half a percentage point to 3.5pc and in April took them down to 3pc. At that point in the UK, the Bank of England was prevaricating. Worse still, in Europe, Jean-Claude Trichet, the European Central Bank president, astonishingly oversaw a rate rise in July.
In September, Lehman Brothers collapsed and the world teetered on the brink. It was a massive test for Carney, then just a central bank ingenue. Backed by colleagues at the 79-year-old institution, he stepped up with C$110bn of liquidity to tide the banks over while the markets were shut. It was a textbook response and it worked.
As part of a globally co-ordinated programme, the world’s major central banks cut rates as low as they could go. In Canada, that meant to 0.25pc by April 2009. By then, the UK and the US had launched quantitative easing (QE), money printing as it came to be known.
Canada followed with Carney’s now famous “conditional commitment” – pledging that interest rates would be unchanged for a year. The economy, which suffered only a single year of recession – shrinking 2.8pc in 2009 – roared back to life in 2010, growing 3.2pc.
In Britain, Canada’s recovery has accorded Carney almost messianic status. George Osborne burnished the image by describing him as “the outstanding central banker of his generation”. In Canada, they see things rather differently.
In the bar at Ki, the bankers say Carney was a good governor but no saviour. “We didn’t need saving. Our banks were in pretty good shape,” Craig says.
Terry Campbell, president of the Canadian Bankers Association, points out there were no bail-outs and, for the past five years, Canada’s banks have been judged the safest in the world by the World Economic Forum.
David Madani, Canadian economist at Capital Economics, agrees. “He was dealt a good hand and he played it well. What set Canada apart was a stable banking sector, a housing boom, and commodities.”
Carney inherited a well-managed economy and stopped it going off the rails but stable banks, sound household finances and abundant natural resources were not of his making.
His former colleagues at the Bank also stress that he did not operate in a vacuum. “This was not Mark Carney making decisions by himself. This was six people debating the issues. It was a consensus,” David Longworth, a former deputy governor, says. “As with all of us, he listened more than talked.”
Similarly, the “conditional commitment” in April 2009 was not the great “Carney plan” as presented in the UK. Nor was the Canadian central bank any more innovative than those of the UK or the US.
“At one point in December 2008, one of our department chiefs said we should really be thinking about contingency planning. So we started a workstream,” Longworth says.
The conditional commitment came out of that and was one of three options, alongside QE and “credit easing”. As the other two required the central bank to take more risky interventions, the council decided to start with the commitment and trigger the other policies only if necessary. Canada had wriggle room that the UK did not.
What Carney brings to public policy is more subtle than the superhero status Osborne has bestowed on him.
“One of the reasons he is an outstanding central banker is that he has this ability to ask the right questions,” Longworth says. “He’s also always reading new economic theories and brings ideas from there and from his contacts in the markets.”
Goodale adds that “he has confidence and the ability to inspire confidence in others”, alongside his “extraordinary enthusiasm about public policy”.
“He’s got a great personality, too. He’s witty and good humoured,” he says. “That’s one quality in public life that’s a great asset. He’s got that cheerful demeanour that carries him a long way.”
Carney’s Hollywood smile and easy charm are all part of his famed communication skills. Goodale remembers Carney as Canada’s policy man at G7 and G20 meetings of global finance ministers. Carney shone in that environment.
“In those meetings there is always a group of sherpas who are trying to craft the message that will come out of the international discussions and, in every one of those meetings I attended, Mark was sought after by all the other countries to be one of the principal, if not the principal, drafters of the message,” he says.
Carney also demonstrated a remarkable ability at those meetings to find common ground among diverse political views. Goodale believes it was just such an “ability to herd the cats” that played a role in his selection in 2011 as chairman of the Financial Stability Board, the global banking supervisor that first brought Carney to wider world attention.
Ultimately, Carney’s success comes from his firm grounding, friends say. That image – of a “regular guy” – is one he’s keen to cultivate, despite his dapper suits and habit of buying one piece of modern art every year. He has ribbed a Canadian journalist for being “pretentious” by suggesting an interview be held in a sushi bar – proposing a local burger joint, The Works, instead.
The bartender in The Clock Tower pub, Carney’s local, remembers him coming in for a pint about 18 months ago – mixing almost anonymously with the regulars.
But Carney is not “a kick-back-at-the-bar kind of guy”, Hodgson says. After a weekly ice hockey game on Wall Street, Carney would rather talk about global affairs and go home early to his family.
Chiarelli remembers a bit of a “square” at Harvard, who “worked like a bastard” and liked to relax with a glass of milk and a piece of chocolate.
At home in Ottawa’s wealthy Rockcliffe suburb, it’s the same. His close banker friend claims Carney, Diana and their four daughters – aged between five and 11 – “eschew excess”.
“They keep him on an even keel,” he says. If Diana has a commitment with Canada2020, the “progressive” think tank at which she works, Carney makes sure he’s home “to serve dinner”.
“He’s given a really hard time about a lot of things by all of them,” the friend says. “They don’t care if he’s Governor of the Bank of England. You’ll still hear them saying, 'Oh my goodness, how could you be so stupid?’”
To his friends, Carney is driven by an old-fashioned moral imperative. “His decision-making, while clearly ambitious, is all in the context of a personality he can be proud of,” one says.
With such a keen focus on public service, Carney is widely expected to move into politics with the Liberals when his term at the Bank of England ends in 2018.
Last year, facing an internal crisis after dropping into third place, the party approached him to consider the leadership. He declined but maintains strong links through his friend, Scott Brison, a Liberal MP.
Earlier this month, after stepping down from the BoC, he was spotted dining with the current leader’s chief of staff, Gerald Butts.
Ottawans believe he’ll return from the UK in 2018 to become finance minister – a more likely move given his political inexperience.
Others think he’ll use the Bank of England as a springboard to the International Monetary Fund. The Governor job comes with a British passport that gives him the European citizenship required to meet the unofficial qualification for any IMF managing director.
First, of course, he has the small matter of helping to fix the ailing British economy, as one of the most powerful central bank governors in the world.
The challenges Mark Carney faces as Bank of England Governor
In the second of a week-long special series, Philip Aldrick considers the scale of the task for the Bank of England's new governor.
Mark Carney was not overstating things when he told the Canadian media, on being named Bank of England Governor last November, that he was moving to “where the challenges are greatest”.
The UK is not just struggling to recover from the most prolonged downturn in more than 100 years; the authorities have already thrown the kitchen sink at the problem. Carney, Bank of Canada (BoC) governor until earlier this month, may be celebrated as a policy innovator but, as his old BoC colleague David Longworth points out, in the UK “there’s not much left for him to try”.
Interest rates have been at a historic low of 0.5pc for more than four years, the BoE has bought a third of the national debt to the tune of £375bn, banks are being plied with cheap credit, and taxpayers are underwriting risky mortgages.
George Osborne likes to depict his economic strategy as fiscal prudence combined with monetary activism. But, compared with Canada, Britain’s response to the crisis looks less activist and more like a monetary revolution.
In one sense, Carney is woefully underprepared for the challenges that will greet him on his arrival next week. Canada’s experience of the financial car crash of 2008 was as innocent bystander. The UK, in contrast, was at the wheel and travelling way over the speed limit.
Britain’s banks were operating at leverage ratios of as high as 80 times. Canada’s regulators had set a limit of 21 times – lower even than the UK post-crisis standard of 33 times.
Canadian households had manageable levels of debt in 2007, at about 125pc of disposable income, compared with 155pc in the UK. Public borrowing was under control. Canada was running a 1.5pc budget surplus in 2007, while the UK already had a 2.9pc deficit. Above all, Canada had natural resources – in oil, gas, gold, and copper.
What set Carney apart was the fact that he didn’t flinch. He cut interest rates by one percentage point to 3pc within three months of taking the BoC helm in early 2008, having spotted the looming crisis months before his central banking peers, and slashed them to 0.25pc after the Lehman Brothers fallout threatened to capsize the global economy.
In April 2008, he pledged to keep rates at rock bottom for a year – his famous “conditional commitment” – to ensure the country did not become collateral damage in the global pile-up. Craig Alexander, chief economist at Canada’s TD Bank, said: “Carney was bold. You could have had someone who was not as aggressive in staving off a depression.”
But his innovations were small compared with the UK. At the height of the crisis, Canada provided C$110bn (£70bn) of liquidity to lenders. In the UK, the taxpayer’s liabilities on bank bail-outs at one point topped £1 trillion.
Carney’s “conditional commitment” was one of three contingency plans, which included quantitative easing (QE) and credit easing. According to Longworth, who was on the BoC governing council which set the policy, the commitment was chosen because the others were judged to be nuclear options and the economy did not need extreme intervention.
In the UK, there was no choice. The red button was hit again and again.
Since George Osborne unveiled Carney, he has come to be seen as an arch-dove who is prepared to reload the QE drip, regardless of the side-effects.
The Canadian experience, though, is the exact opposite. Carney’s rate cuts and liquidity provision worked. Perhaps, too well. Low rates sparked a housing bubble – the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development now reckons Canada’s houses are the third most overvalued in the developed world. Alongside that came a construction boom, as high-rise condominiums rose at a giddy pace in Canada’s major cities.
But, with consumer spending picking up and construction bringing jobs, the economy quickly recovered – growing 3.2pc in 2010 after a 2.8pc slump the previous year.
At the first sign of recovery, Carney turned hawkish. In June 2010, just over year after the low rate commitment, the BoC started raising rates aggressively – hiking them to 1pc over three successive meetings. “The Bank realised that once things had stabilised, there was a window of opportunity to get rates off the floor,” TD’s Alexander said. “It was a smart move, giving them room to manoeuvre if the global picture weakens again without having to resort to QE.”
The window quickly snapped shut, as the deeper problems in the US and Europe tipped the world back into a slowdown, leaving Carney in an awkward trap. The housing bubble continued to inflate, but growth dipped to 1.8pc. At the same time, the strong currency – 20pc overvalued on some measures – was damaging the manufacturing base.
As inflation fell towards the bottom end of the BoC’s 1pc to 3pc target range, Carney faced vocal calls to cut rates. But he stood his ground.
“The Bank of Canada won’t even acknowledge that the currency is overvalued,” Jim Stanford, chief economist at the Canadian Auto Workers Union, said. He applauds outgoing Governor Sir Mervyn King’s recent success in talking sterling down, but laments Carney’s failure even to try.
“What they say to us is that the best thing they can do is stick to the inflation target. Their story is that, if we devalue the currency, it would just create inflation that would undo the good work,” Stanford added, revealing a mindset with which several more hawkish economists in the UK might agree.
“It would certainly be wrong to think of Carney as a dove on inflation. That’s not been our experience.”
In Britain, BoE watchers expect some variation of Carney’s big three ideas – “flexible” inflation targeting, “guidance” in the form of a “conditional commitment” on rates, and clear “communication” for households and the markets. Osborne has allowed room for all three by tweaking the BoE’s remit.
But Canadian economists are sceptical that his policies will have much impact in Britain. “You seem pretty flexible already,” Capital Economics’ David Madani said, in reference to inflation running above target for 81 of the past 96 months.
Inflation in the UK is currently at 2.7pc, making more stimulus unlikely – particularly with mounting evidence that the economy may have grown by 0.5pc in the three months to June. If Carney does plan more stimulus, he also faces a challenge in convincing the eight other members of the Monetary Policy Committee – six of whom are currently voting against increasing QE.
With markets already expecting rates to be unchanged until 2016, “guidance”, TD’s Alexander says, looks like it will be more useful as a way of managing QE exit than providing stimulus.
One area he might be active, though, is in taking more risk onto the BoE's balance sheet – a red line issue for Sir Mervyn until Funding for Lending was launched last summer.
Longworth revealed that the BoC was preparing a form of “credit easing” when QE and the “conditional commitment” were considered in early 2008. It would have seen the BoC “purchase private sector assets outright”, he said. Ultimately, the policy was never triggered – but it indicated a willingness and has fuelled speculation that Carney will switch some of the BoE's £375bn QE portfolio into corporate debt, for example.
Where Canada’s economists do expect Carney to move aggressively is with Britain’s banks. He may have already started. Some believe Carney’s fingerprints are all over the Chancellor’s decision to consider breaking up Royal Bank of Scotland.
Bankers would be wrong to expect Carney to be a friend just because he was one himself, says Tim Hodgson, a former colleague of Carney’s at both Goldman Sachs and the BoC. “There’s no way in the world he’s going to say [banks can go easy on capital]. No way,” he insisted, citing Carney’s famous battle with JP Morgan boss Jamie Dimon and the fact that Canada’s banks were forced to comply with Basel III global capital standards last year – seven years early.
But he will be practical. Hodgson added: “Anyone who thinks he’s going to go easy on the banks doesn’t understand him. But because he understands the business, he’s not afraid to engage constructively with them if he thinks it is the right thing to do for the resilience of the overall financial system.”
Carney, who drafted the tough new global standards on bank capital as chairman of the Financial Stability Board – the central banks’ central bank, has been a firm opponent of the Volcker rule on proprietary trading, for example.
If he behaves like he did in Canada, UK bank bosses can expect regular communication. “Carney is all about engagement,” Hodgson said.
That willingness to intervene was most evident with Canada’s housing bubble. Since 2008, to deflate the bubble, mortgage terms have been cut from 40 years to 25, deposit requirements lifted, and loan-to-income tests toughened. In Canada, buyers have to take out mortgage insurance by law if their deposit is less than 20pc. The rules were tightened so buyers could not get insurance on properties worth more than C$1m (£620,000).
Carney was a driving force behind the scenes. Hodgson recollects him “jaw-boning” bank bosses who were pushing the limits with teaser rates and other incentives. “He – and [the regulators] – called the heads of the banks and said, what are you doing? All you’re doing is making housing more expensive, as people will be able to pay more for a house. This is stupid. Stop.”
The interventions have worked. Household debt has started to fall and house prices have stabilised. Madani reckons there may be a correction coming but, as Alexander says: “You don’t want to slam on the brakes if you’re driving on ice. You want to slow the car down. They’ve handled it well.”
At the Bank, Carney is expected to make it more open and transparent, and to tear down some of the more hierarchical structures, but he will not be “tone deaf” to its 319-year history, Hodgson says.
The big challenge he faces over his five years, though, will be how to exit QE. The danger is market risk; will gilt markets drive government borrowing costs up to unaffordable levels? Will the ocean of dormant money be released in a dangerous inflationary torrent?
If anything, “exit” is the role for which Carney is best prepared. He raised rates aggressively and fast in Canada, and – according to former colleagues – if there is one man who can outsmart the traders, it is Carney.
Reading between the lines of the Chancellor’s Mansion House speech last week, Carney’s task now looks less like that of a rescue worker and more like a health and safety officer whose job is to prevent unnecessary accidents.
“There is a risk that poor communication could lead to stimulus being inadvertently withdrawn too soon,” Osborne said. “More clarity about the future path of interest rates could help keep financial markets more stable.”
With the economy “out of intensive care”, as Osborne put it, market sentiment could change rapidly – pushing up government borrowing costs and making lending for households and businesses more expensive. “Guidance”, in the form of a “conditional commitment”, could smooth the transition, controlling the markets to ensure rates only rose once the economy was strong enough to bear it – “escape velocity”, in Carney’s language.
If the economic data continue to surprise, Carney may have to devise a plan sooner than he expected. Either way, QE exit will be his greatest challenge of all.
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Edinburgh Speech - Press Conference - 29th January 2014
Paul
Gilbride, Daily Express: Governor Carney, you gave three examples -
three main examples - for stable, successful currency unions US, Canada
and Australia, and you used them very much as a counterpoint to the
eurozone. Is it entirely a happy coincidence that those three examples
are nation states? If not, what are the reasons why it’s such a stable
currency union in those countries?
Mark Carney, Governor: Well, I won’t make a political judgement. From an economic
perspective,
I think what’s interesting and the point I was trying to make, using
the juxtaposition of the eurozone and those others, is that there's -
it’s not just about being similar, it’s about the institutions. And so
you can be relatively similar.
Now there are - you can disaggregate
the eurozone more and there's greater differences, but it’s more similar
than one would think in terms of industrial structure, not in terms of
productivity differences and things. So you can be similar and it
doesn’t work, and you can be quite different and it can work. And so
what matters is the institutional arrangements that are put in place
around the mobility of factors of production and goods, around various
aspects of a financial union, banking union, and obviously
fiscal arrangements.
Now
nation states put all of those in place. But you will have an attempt -
you have an attempt that is very clearly not yet completed at some risk
to the global economy - the European and global economies - you have an
attempt with the eurozone to putin place a durable currency union - or I
should be more positive, to reinforce the currency union, to reinforce
the euro with additional measures which will likely require some ceding
of national sovereignty, and that’s clearly recognised. But it doesn’t -
I’ll leave it to the political theorists to determine whether at the
end of that the eurozone is a nation state as
opposed to nation states that have these arrangements which create a truly viable economic and currency union.
Paul Gilbride, Daily Express: So do you not have any examples of any currency unions which
aren’t nation states?
Mark Carney, Governor: You only get one question; it’s a shame.
Laughter
Phil Aldrick, The Times: I'm just going back to the lender of last resort issue. Would the
Bank
of England be satisfied that banks like Royal Bank of Scotland and
Lloyds would be regulated by a Scottish regulator if you were providing
lender of last resort facility, given that the opposite has been
happening in the UK with the Financial Services Authority being brought
in house, it seems to be a
retrograde step?
Mark Carney, Governor: I don’t think it’s helpful for me to speculate on post-September
arrangements, so I won’t. I’ll make the most general point which is that we’re obviously very targeted in our provision of lender of last resort facilities. It is that ultimately we’re putting - there are
protections that are taken, but we are putting the sovereign balance sheet on the line. So we’re disciplined in our provision of that. And then we’re quite liberal in the provision of the liquidity
for all the reasons you would expect, to this specific institution
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Mark Carney Was the World’s Rock-Star Banker. Now He’s Ready for His Encore
Carney led two central banks through two world-shifting crises. Does that make him a political contender?
It took over three centuries and a Canadian to make it happen, but when Mark Carney was hired as governor of the Bank of England, in 2013, he became the first foreigner to run the institution since it was founded, in 1694. The response to his appointment was rapturous, bordering on parody. The British press alternately called him a banker from “central casting” and a “rock star.” Carney, stepping away from the same position at the Bank of Canada, was just forty-eight years old. He was brought on to modernize the UK’s ossified banking system, and kudos poured in from the left, the right, and the centre. “Mark Carney is the outstanding central banker of his generation,” former chancellor of the exchequer George Osborne told the House of Commons.
Then, Brexit.
From the moment then prime minister David Cameron floated a referendum to leave the European Union, in the early months of 2013, until the day the exit was made law, Carney was increasingly in the spotlight. He was asked, repeatedly, what impact leaving the EU might have on the economy. Tradition dictated that the bank governor remain above the political fray. Carney, however, was blunt in his assessment that the decision could lead to economic disaster—he even worried publicly about the possibility of a “cliff-edge Brexit.” He did not venture this as offhand opinion: he was, after all, governor of the central bank. Nevertheless, this was seen as taking sides. Suddenly, in certain parts of the country and some segments of its media landscape, he went from being Hugh Grant to Hannibal Lecter.
The fact that Carney’s original assessment would be proven right wasn’t politically relevant. Nor did it stem the criticism, even after he was asked by the Conservative government, not once but twice, to extend his original five-year contract so as to maintain stability and continuity in the Brexit rollout. The drama—which ended for Carney last year, his tenure finally complete—may have been theatrical, but it also highlighted the many ways that electoral politics can be a dirty, unpredictable business in which intellectual analysis and raw emotion do not always share the same cab. For Carney, it’s an experience that may yet come in handy.
In the months since Carney arrived back in Ottawa, where he now lives with his wife, British economist Diana Fox, and their four daughters, he’s landed a few plum positions: he’s taken a seat on the board of digital-payment unicorn Stripe, and he’s now heading up asset-management firm Brookfield’s expansion into social and environmental investing. He has also continued his role as United Nations special envoy on climate action and finance. Still, there have been whispers about what, exactly, he plans to do next. With the release of his first book this spring, Value(s): Building a Better World for All, they only got louder.
In early April, Carney was a keynote speaker at the Liberal party’s federal convention. During his speech, he committed himself to the cause, stating, “I’ll do whatever I can to support the Liberal party in our efforts to build a better future for Canadians.” It’s a line that has drawn many close readings in the media. The Canadian Press reported that his appearance was a “political coming out party of sorts” that marked “the first public dipping of his toe into partisan waters.” Pundits, and their unnamed inside sources, speculated that Carney could be on the next ballot, with some venturing that he could soon be minister of finance. Others have even gone further, naming him a potential successor to Justin Trudeau as Liberal leader and, if voters say so, prime minister. Still, Carney isn’t committing either way. At a recent virtual event held by the University of Toronto’s Rotman School of Management, he was asked whether politics was in his future. Carney played it coy: “I never say never.” He is certainly primed for a leap into a leadership position, but is that a job he actually wants?
On February 1, 2008, Carney, then forty-two, got a promotion: he was to become governor of the Bank of Canada. Even with his impressive CV, it represented a rapid ascent for the relatively young man who grew up in Edmonton: undergrad at Harvard, doctorate at Oxford, and success as an investment banker with Goldman Sachs in London, Tokyo, New York, and Toronto. He switched from Goldman to the public sector in 2003, landing roles at the Bank of Canada and the Department of Finance before being named governor—the youngest central banker in all of the G20.
Almost immediately, a calamity hit. Carney was still familiar with the world of Wall and Bay Streets, and he perhaps sensed, ahead of other central bankers, that the financial realm, faltering since 2007, was in jeopardy. Just a month into his tenure, while EU member states were raising interest rates to reflect a healthy economy, he cut Canada’s overnight rate by fifty basis points—a kind of fiscal booster shot that anticipated and, for Canada at least, moderated the trouble to come: the disastrously overleveraged state of credit default swaps and obligations that would ultimately overwhelm global markets and bring about the Great Recession.
There’s a chasm between the day-to-day job of being a bank governor and what the public might imagine they actually do—at least to the extent that anyone thinks about bank governors at all. Craig Wright, chief economist at RBC for over two decades, explains that the main job is to hit the inflation target the bank and the government deem advisable, which, in Canada since the early nineties, has been somewhere between 2 and 3 percent. On average, says Wright, Carney always found that 2 percent sweet spot. “That’s what you aim for in normal times,” Wright says. “Mark has been through a couple of abnormal times.”
In some ways, a bank governor is a bit like the captain of a giant steamship crossing the Atlantic—let’s call it the SS Stability. Know your charts, set a judicious course, keep a close eye on things, and it should be smooth sailing. Unless, of course, there’s a hurricane (credit crunch) or rogue wave (recession), at which point all hell breaks loose, your crew starts to panic, and every decision, big or small, is monumental. If you choose wrong, you’re going down.
Angelo Melino has been on faculty at the University of Toronto’s department of economics since 1981 and briefly worked for Carney as a special adviser to the Bank of Canada in 2008/09. “He was a very good crisis leader. I mean, he’s not a large man, but you would not know that if you were in a room with him,” Melino says. “He was very good at inspiring people to work hard. Everyone saw that this was a crisis, and he showed that he was a good leader and a very good decision maker.”
This became even clearer a few years later, when Carney was poached by the Bank of England. It was an institution that, by most accounts, needed to have the boardroom doors thrown open to the sunlight. Carney was hired to do the door-flinging. He was to oversee changes in communications policy at the famously tight-lipped bank as well as bring about reforms in technology, diversity, digital currency, briefing frequency, and even the printing of plastic versus paper money. It was a bigger role that came with more attention. A lot more attention. Intelligence, charm, and diligence could parry some, but not all, of the daggers. “I think it’s safe to say that the level of scrutiny in public roles in the UK is intense and unrelenting,” he says with a laugh during our call.
But, though he initiated an era of modernity at the bank, there remains debate in the financial community as to his overall effectiveness. Phillip Inman is the economics editor of the Observer. “If you talk about a crisis, then Mark Carney is your man,” he says. “He didn’t have to deal with the worst of the Euro crisis that happened just before he arrived, but it was still being felt when he arrived in 2013. Then, of course, we had the Brexit vote, in 2016, and he was a model of calm while everyone else was losing their heads.”
The story of Carney’s time in the UK is, in many ways, wrapped up with the story of Brexit. According to the Times, before taking up his post as governor, he sought assurance that there were no plans to hold a referendum on leaving the European Union (something that the Bank of England later denied). It did not take clairvoyance to predict the chaos and fractiousness such a process would bring about, regardless of the outcome.
According to Inman, it is important to remember the milieu in which Carney was operating: the financial sector considered Brexit earth shattering. “Not just an economic disaster,” he says. “A cultural disaster. A step backward in almost every way you can think of. And Carney had to stay calm and act quickly.” This was particularly crucial, says Inman, due to the Bank of England’s slow response to the 2008 recession—something that led to a lagged recovery and an awful lot of criticism.
Though Carney impressed early on, Inman says, his response to the latter stages of Brexit proved subpar. Like most other central bankers, he says, Carney’s technical tool kit was quickly found wanting. This, Inman argues, was where Carney’s naïveté about Britain was exposed. “Events never panned out as he predicted: wage growth never got high enough. He was a poor forecaster,” Inman says. “He had interest rates at rock bottom, he was doing all he could to facilitate growth and wages growth, but the mistake he made was that it takes more than that to jump-start recovery.” He adds that Carney’s policy of “forward guidance”—offering long-range direction on interest rate movement to promote economic stability—also proved contentious. Carney would announce that rates would soon go up to reflect increases to inflation and a healthier economy. But time would pass and nothing would change. “Month after month, year after year,” says Inman, “we would get Carney’s forecast of inflation rising and interest rates coming in to calm it down. And [the increases] never happened. Even when you start to get a sustained recovery, which didn’t happen until 2017, this is four years after he’s joined the bank. We had four years of ‘It’s coming.’” Carney was, in Inman’s opinion, misreading the situation before him.
Of course, some have always claimed there’s a whiff of smoke and mirrors to the work of economists. I remember, from earlier reporting days, Ralph Klein’s chief of staff, Rod Love, joking about economists: their ways, their mysteries, their arcane lexicon. It came with the punchline, Don’t get me wrong, I love economists. They’ve predicted seven of the last two recessions.
UK Labour MP Pat McFadden may have been feeling similarly inspired in 2014, when he likened the Bank of England under Carney to an “unreliable boyfriend” for the mixed signals it was sending over the timing of future rate hikes: “One day hot, one day cold.” It was a characterization that stuck even after Carney ditched forward guidance as a policy. “He was quite thin-skinned about it,” says Inman. “I would attend press conferences and ask him direct questions, and he was very prickly when you asked questions that appeared to impugn his forecasting or his social conscience or any of the things that he felt he should be praised for. As in, ‘Who are you to question my authority?’ Very sharp and dismissive. When everything’s going well, he seems very confident and it’s all lovely. But, when things are not going so well, in a one-to-one personal situation, he’s quite prickly. And his reputation inside the bank was quite authoritarian.” Carney was reported to have earned some infamy among bank staff. According to BNN Bloomberg, “Being on the receiving end of sudden flashes of fury became known as ‘getting tasered.’”
With the honeymoon period over, Carney’s manner and performance were regularly questioned by the media, with the caveat that a public figure receiving a mauling by the British press is like winter in Edmonton: the question is not if or when but how bad and for how long. Philip Aldrick, economics editor and columnist for the Times, was one such critic. After Carney’s tenure ended, Aldrick wrote that “the quantitative easing he oversaw at the Bank widened inequality and provided [chancellor of the exchequer] George Osborne with a cover for austerity.”
The bottom line, says Inman, is that Carney’s legacy at the Bank of England is simply more conventional and conservative than Carney and his advocates may believe it to be. “I just think he was more of the same,” says Inman, “rather than somebody who was a bit of a new broom.”
Carney insists that he enjoyed his experience in the UK but admits it was a fishbowl existence he was unaccustomed to. Everything from his marathon times to his expense claims received public airing. “In Canada, I was recognized, but I basically had a normal life,” he tells me. “In the UK, I did not. It was exceptionally difficult to do anything that was not in the public eye, so there was a level of scrutiny that was remarkable. As it turned out, with the Brexit cliffhanger, I ended up doing seven years, so I was there longer than I originally intended. If there’s an unasked question, by that point I’d been a G7 central bank governor for thirteen years, and you only get one life. I enjoyed it. It was a privilege. It was very intense. But it was enough.”
Thirteen years, two banks, two crises. How do you follow that kind of record? So far, one of Carney’s primary areas of focus has been his new book, Value(s): Building a Better World for All. At nearly 600 pages, it is learned, passionate, well researched, reasonably well written, and surprisingly accessible for a text encompassing politics, economics, history, and philosophy. All orbit around the ideas of value and values: how we find them in the market and how we promote them among ourselves. Yet it also presents something of a mystery: Whom, exactly, is this book for? It feels too colloquial to serve as an academic text, too academic to appeal to a general readership. Suffice it to say, at the literary or emotional level, the book is no Obama memoir. “I’m not hanging by the phone for the call from Oprah,” he jokes. In a way, the book seems to represent the duality of Carney’s public persona: part policy wonk happiest at Davos, part hometown hero keen to introduce himself and his ideology to the wider world.
Prosperity, Carney argues, is most likely going to be greatest when we can balance economic growth with social values.
It’s difficult to reduce Value(s) to a bite-size summary, but one thing it expresses consistently and in various ways is that Carney is not a free-market fundamentalist. In this, he falls into the traditional liberal camp: markets are run by humans and humans have emotions, biases, failings. The book is undergirded by an almost plaintive appeal to the decency in each of us as individuals and all of us as a collective. Prosperity, he argues, is likely going to be greatest for most when we can balance economic growth with a broader set of social values. That means limits; that means regulations. “When left alone, ultimately the market will consume the social capital that is needed to support the market,” he tells me. “You’ve got to be careful to balance things so you don’t lose the dynamism and innovation that only the market can provide. But some things aren’t trade-offs, right? We’re in a COVID crisis. With the people in the old-age home across the street, it’s not their lives versus the economy.”
It’s not just that the free market is too volatile when unregulated, Carney argues in his writing, but that it is also prone to systemic and episodic failures, which, combined with human frailty, means we must keep both a collar and a leash on this powerful beast. His call for a regulated and equitable financial system doesn’t appear to be a self-conscious bit of politicking: after all, if he didn’t hold these beliefs, Carney could have remained in the private sector, earned his millions, and we’d have never heard his name in the first place. Which raises the question that, if this is all part of the bigger picture he’s painting, what’s the next brush stroke? “In retrospect, everything might look quite logical and well planned out,” Carney says of his career. “But I’ve just gone to things where I felt it was a challenge and it interested me.” One potential challenge that has been simmering for some time, however, may be coming to boil.
John Ibbitson has been a political writer and columnist for the Globe and Mail since 1999. Mark Carney has been on his radar, to one degree or another, since he first appeared as a young governor at the Bank of Canada. Even then, Carney was rumoured to have political aspirations.
“He’s a fascinating character,” says Ibbitson. “If he were to run as a Liberal, he could bring increased credibility on economic issues in an area where that party is deemed by some to be weak.” Ibbitson did reiterate that the job of prime minister is currently filled and will be for the foreseeable future. But Trudeau won’t be leader forever.
Even if that tumbler did unlock, there are questions about whether Carney should open the door. The Liberals, notes Ibbitson, have been known to choose leaders who look great on paper and then struggle on the ground, Michael Ignatieff and John Turner being perhaps the two best examples of intellectual heft that turned into political dead weight, mostly due to an absence of the common touch. Voters, after all, don’t necessarily want the smartest person for the top job—they want someone they trust. And getting to that position is always a fight. “Does Carney take relentless, vindictive personal attacks, both from opposition politicians and from a portion of the press?” Ibbitson wonders. And, even if he can take it, can he dish it out? “On paper, he looks great as a candidate. He is formidably qualified for a senior role in public life,” Ibbitson says. “But politics is a blood sport.”
Naturally, there are skeptics about whether Carney will commit to running. “I would have thought him being rather thin-skinned would be his Achilles heel in politics,” says Inman at the Observer. “In terms of understanding the tectonic plates of international capitalism, how everything fits together and how it works, and knowing all the top people across the world, he does. I could see that being a great appeal, but the campaign trail can be brutal. Another thing that will stand in his way as a politician is that he talks in a way that is technocratic, which is loved by people when referring to their central banker but not much good in a politician.”
Philip Aldrick, in a recent Times book review, referred to the rumours surrounding Carney’s aspirations. “If Value(s) is a political manifesto, it is that of Davos man. The benevolent belief that, with a few tweaks, the ‘citizens of nowhere’ can reorganise capitalism for the collective good to save the world. You believe Carney has the sheer will to make it happen, but not the self-awareness . . . . If he wants to be PM, he will need to speak human first.”
Still, signs have been accumulating. One potential clue can be found in his book’s acknowledgements section: “Gerry Butts kindly reviewed the draft manuscript and provided essential insights.” Yes, that Gerry Butts—longtime chief adviser and former principal secretary to Justin Trudeau. I ask Carney if anyone ought to read anything significant into that detail. There is a pause, then a laugh. “No,” he says, “except that he’s a smart person, and if you want somebody to read your manuscript, you get someone like that to take a look.”
We probably won’t have to wait too long to find out Carney’s intentions given the Liberals’ minority rule—an election can’t be too far off. But, for now, the only thing known for certain is that he has been engaging in his own version of forward guidance, signalling to both party and public that he is worth long-term investment.
In one chapter of Value(s), “How Canada Can Build Value for All,” Carney pays homage to his homeland in all the conventional ways: Canada gave him his chance in life, educated him, taught him his values; it is a magnet for talent, has a wonderful cultural mosaic, turns challenges into opportunities; there is nothing we can’t accomplish if we work together. “I believe Canada is not just the present but very much the future if democracies are going to thrive,” he writes. “That’s why I want to help us reach our full potential and shape the future, right here at home.” He then lays out a ten-point plan that governments can follow to achieve value-based prosperity, which ranges from the boilerplate (building a new economy in which all can thrive) to the expected (greening the economy) to the genuinely interesting (developing intergenerational accounting practices to track sustainability). In the end, he says, Canadians need to support one another from “coast to coast to coast.” Although Value(s) does not, in sum, read like an electioneering document, there are sections that cannot be read as anything other than political semaphore.
In his book’s final chapter, “Humility,” he returns to an earlier anecdote about Pope Francis, who once suggested to an intimate gathering of influential people, of which Carney was part, that just as grappa is wine distilled—nothing but pure alcohol—the market is “self-interest, humanity distilled.” The job of those assembled before him, the pope solemnly said, was to turn grappa back into wine.
The pope may have been onto something. The trouble is, the only way to know what you’ve got is to uncork the bottle, let it breathe, and give it a try. Only then can you really see what’s inside.
July 6, 2021: An earlier version of this story stated that Canada has had an inflation target since the late eighties. In fact, the target was introduced in the early nineties. The Walrus regrets the error.
July 12, 2021: An earlier version of this story stated that Canada’s inflation target has fallen between 1 and 3 percent. In fact, it has been between 2 and 3 percent. The Walrus regrets the error.
Executive Director, The Walrus
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Date: Monday, March 16, 2009, 2:54 PM
Everybody knows why I strongly disagree with Warren Buffett and Mark Carney EH? Small wonder that the Wall Street Journal now blocks my comments in their blogs. Hell most of the big Media dudes except those in New Brunswick News are employed by publiclly held companies. No wonder none of them will ever mention my name or what i did seven years ago. All the greedy bastards are worried about keeping their own damned jobs and pensions as the ecomomy goes into a tailspin. to hell with their fellow common man CORRECT? http://www.newswire.ca/fr/releases/archive/March2009/12/c8088.html TORONTO, March 12 /CNW/ - Gloomy politicians and frightened economists continue to warn that the world could be slipping into another Great Depression. But behind the steady drumbeat of chilling economic numbers and staggering job losses, some of the world's most sophisticated and successful investors are beginning to see signs of hope, and perhaps even the first stages of a turnaround. This week in Maclean's, senior writer Jason Kirby cuts through the confusion and gloom to explain why Warren Buffett, Mark Carney and others are making the case for optimism. For further information: Louise Leger, (416) 764-4125, louise.leger@rci.rogers.com MUCH TO CHUCKY LEBLANC'S CHAGRIN NEED I SAY BULLSHIT ONCE AGAIN??? It certainly appears that I am not alone in that thinking EH? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffett Buffett ran into criticism, [30] during the subprime crisis of 2007–2008, part of the late 2000s recession, that he has allocated capital too early resulting in suboptimal deals. Buffett has called the 2007—present downturn in the financial sector "poetic justice".[31] Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway suffered a 77% drop in earnings during Q3 2008 and several of his recent deals appear to be running into large mark-to-market losses.[32] Berkshire Hathaway acquired 10% perpetual preferred stock of Goldman Sachs at $123[33] only for it to fall to below $60. Furthermore some of Buffett's Index put options (European exercise at expiry only) that he wrote (sold) are currently running around $6.73 billion mark-to-market losses.[34] The scale of the potential loss prompted the SEC to demand that Berkshire produce, "a more robust disclosure" of factors used to value the contracts.[34] Buffett also helped Dow Chemical pay for its $18.8 billion takeover of Rohm & Haas. He thus became the single largest shareholder in the enlarged group with his Berkshire Hathaway, which provided $3 billion, underlining his instrumental role during the current crisis in debt and equity markets.[35] In October 2008, the media reported that Warren Buffett had agreed to buy General Electric (GE) preferred stock, when it was trading in the mid 20s of dollar.[36] The operation included extra special incentives: he received an option to buy 3 billion GE at $22.25 in the next five years and also received a 10% dividend (callable within three years). However, shortly after, GE gave up tens of billions in market capitalization and just bounced off a low of $8.80 in February 23, 2009, a price that has not been seen in over a decade. GE's stock price continued to fall after that point, and by early May, for example, it had declined to a 18 year low. Events like these have prompted a wave of criticism against Berkshire Hathaway and Warren Buffett. In February 2009, Warren Buffett unloaded part of Procter & Gamble Co and Johnson & Johnson shares from his portfolio.[37] Some have claimed that there is a financial incentive for Berkshire Hathaway to keep the myth that Buffett is an “oracle” alive and that the company is dependent on the Warren Buffett myth: that exaggerated sense of comfort investors share when it comes to Buffett’s beliefs and recommendations.[38] In addition to suggestions of mistiming, questions have been raised as to the wisdom in keeping some of Berkshire's major holdings including The Coca-Cola Company (NYSE:KO) which in 1998 peaked at $86. Buffett discussed the difficulties of knowing when to sell in the company's 2004 annual report: "That may seem easy to do when one looks through an always-clean, rear-view mirror. Unfortunately, however, it’s the windshield through which investors must peer, and that glass is invariably fogged."[39] In March 2009, Buffett stated in a cable television interview that the economy had "fallen off a cliff... Not only has the economy slowed down a lot, but people have really changed their habits like I haven't seen."[40] Additionally, Buffett fears we may revisit a 1970s level of inflation, which led to a painful stagflation that lasted many years[1]. For the record after I heard enough nonsense on the radio today I called Buffett and Carney's offices again and lots of you people too Correct? trust that you latest president Rob Moir the wannabe NDP MP knows everything but he and his politcal cohorts think I that am not worth talking to EH Graham Steele? http://www.unb.ca/econ/acea/members.html http://www.unb.ca/econ/acea/directory.html Chairman and Chief Executive Officer: Warren E Buffett Berkshire Hathaway www.berkshirehathaway.com 1440 Kiewit Plaza Omaha NE, USA 68131 Phone: 402-346-1400 Mark Carney, Governor of the Bank of Canada Bank of Canada 234 Wellington Street Ottawa, Ontario, Canada K1A 0G9 Telephone: 1 800 303-1282 Whenever I call the number quoted above a voicemail goes through a big spiel about the Fed's website and then simply hangs up so as usual I called Carney's local dudes and his spokespersons for good measure. These federal emploees either played dumb or promptly told me that they only talk to the members of the media non Citizens of Canada. Go figure why I am so pissed off as you read my next emails and study their attachments. Better yet why not call the Rogers and CBC talkshow dudes and talk about what an arsehole I am right after you call your lawyer. Amirault, David Bank of Canada 1583 Hollis St., 5th Floor Halifax, NS B3J 1V4 902-420-4644 David Amirault, Senior Regional Representative (Economics) Monique LeBlanc, Senior Regional Representative (Currency) http://www.bankofcanada.ca/en/media/media_contact.html Jeremy Harrison Senior Communications Consultant, Public Affairs jharrison@bankofcanada.ca Dale Alexander Communications Consultant, Public Affairs dalexander@bankofcanada.ca Telephone: 613 782-8782 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: David Raymond Amos noreply-comment@blogger.com Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:00:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Just Dave] New comment on Harper and Bankers. To: David.Raymond.Amos@gmail.com David Raymond Amos has left a new comment on the post "Harper and Bankers": Just Dave By Location Visit Detail Visit 7,339 Domain Name gs.com ? (Commercial) IP Address 12.47.208.# (GOLDMAN SACHS COMPANY) ISP AT&T WorldNet Services Location Continent : North America Country : United States (Facts) State : New York City : New York Lat/Long : 40.7619, -73.9763 (Map) Language English (U.S.)en-us Operating System Microsoft WinXP Browser Internet Explorer 7.0 Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; (R1 1.1); .NET CLR 1.1.4322; InfoPath.1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.648; .NET CLR 3.5.21022; MS-RTC LM 8; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729) Javascript version 1.3 Monitor Resolution : 1280 x 1024 Color Depth : 32 bits Time of Visit Mar 16 2009 12:49:22 pm Last Page View Mar 16 2009 12:49:22 pm Visit Length 0 seconds Page Views 1 Referring URL Visit Entry Page http://davidamos.blo...per-and-bankers.html Visit Exit Page http://davidamos.blo...per-and-bankers.html Out Click Time Zone UTC-4:00 Visitor's Time Mar 16 2009 12:49:22 pm Visit Number 7,339 Just Dave By Location Visit Detail Visit 7,340 Domain Name (Unknown) IP Address 206.230.48.# (GOLDMAN SACHS COMPANY) ISP Sprint Location Continent : North America Country : United States (Facts) State : New York City : New York Lat/Long : 40.7619, -73.9763 (Map) Language English (U.S.)en-us Operating System Microsoft WinXP Browser Internet Explorer 7.0 Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; InfoPath.1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.648; .NET CLR 3.5.21022; CPT-IE401SP1; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; MS-RTC LM 8) Javascript version 1.3 Monitor Resolution : 1280 x 1024 Color Depth : 16 bits Time of Visit Mar 16 2009 12:53:22 pm Last Page View Mar 16 2009 1:14:04 pm Visit Length 20 minutes 42 seconds Page Views 3 Referring URL Visit Entry Page http://davidamos.blo...per-and-bankers.html Visit Exit Page http://davidamos.blo...per-and-bankers.html Out Click David Raymond Amos http://www.blogger.c...06553336660119659315 Time Zone UTC-4:00 Visitor's Time Mar 16 2009 12:53:22 pm Visit Number 7,340 From: David Amos david.raymond.amos@gmail.com Subject: Fwd: Perhaps Iceland should ask their Ambassador to Canada or your various reps particularly the at Goodmans some hard question EH? To: elee@e-winslow.com, clientservices@e-winslow.com, gset-news@gs.com, GSWebSiteFeedback@gs.com, gs-investor-relations@gs.com, shrrelations@mellon.com, .exsultate@core-net.com Cc: webo@xplornet.com Date: Monday, March 16, 2009, 8:44 AM ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Johnson, Jon" jjohnson@goodmans.ca Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 09:52:18 -0400 Subject: Out of Office: Perhaps Iceland should ask their Ambassador to Canada or your various reps particularly the at Goodmans some hard question EH To: David Amos david.raymond.amos@gmail.com My e-mail address has changed from jjohnson@goodmans.ca to jonrjohnson@rogers.com My address and telephone number remain unchanged. My address continues to be 2400 - 250 Yonge Street, Toronto, ON M5B 2M6 and my direct telephone number remains (416) 597-4121. Please use my new e-mail address for all future e-mails. Many thanks. 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M" Ignatieff.M@parl.gc.ca, dions1 dions1@parl.gc.ca, webo webo@xplornet.com, "Milliken.P" Milliken.P@parl.gc.ca I just called the following number again when the woman asked my name she told me she wasn't interested and hung up the phone on me me AGAIN? Iceland Embassy , Canada Constitution Square, 360 Albert Street, Suite 710 Ottawa Ontario Canada K1R 7X7 Phone: +1-613-4821944 Fax:+1-613-4821945 Email: icemb.ottawa@utn.stjr.is Website URL: www.iceland.org/ca Your many lawyers must remember this document and the rest of the material that came with it CORRECT? http://www.scribd.com/doc/4304560/Speaker-Iceland-etc BTW I also called Bob Rae and Mikey Levine's associate in Goodman's again Iceland Consulate , Canada Suite 2400, 250 Yonge Street Toronto Ontario Canada Phone:+1-416-9796740 Fax:+1-416-9791234 Email:jjohnson@goodmans.ca ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: David Amos david.raymond.amos@gmail.com Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:12:26 -0300 Subject: Re: Information Centre To: infocenter@mfa.is What is your name and why haven't you people learned how to use the phone since last October? On 3/16/09, infocenter@mfa.is infocenter@mfa.is wrote: Dear Mr. David Raymond Amos Thank you for contacting the government of Iceland. Please send us your questions regarding Iceland's economy and we will do our best to answer your questions. Best regards, Information Centre Erindi: How many protests etc do the people in Iceland and around the world participate in before someone acts within the scope of their employment and asks me some ethical questions? Are you waiting to the RCMP and Stevey Boy Harper to get rid of me? 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Poilievre's pivot: Conservatives conducting internal surveys to adapt message
Not all Conservatives agree on how to adjust to Trudeau's departure
A possible tariff war with the United States, Justin Trudeau's departure and the Liberal leadership race are all upsetting Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre's campaign plans.
And behind the scenes, not all Conservatives agree on how to adjust.
"The carbon tax is no longer the ballot box question," a Conservative source in Western Canada told Radio-Canada. "But we've invested so much money fine-tuning that message, it's hard to abandon it completely."
Sources told Radio-Canada the Conservative Party has commissioned a series of internal surveys to find the best way to adapt Poilievre's message. The aim is to test new lines of attack against the Liberals.
"The start of a tariff war with the United States is changing voters' moods. It's harder to talk about a broken Canada when there's a growing sense of patriotism," another Conservative source said.
Canada's political landscape is changing rapidly.
"The challenge is to demonstrate that the party can adapt quickly, that the leader can go beyond slogans and that he has more than one trick up his sleeve," warns a third source close to the party.
Radio-Canada is not identifying the sources because they were speaking about internal party matters.
Adjustment in progress
There's been an adjustment in Poilievre's rhetoric since Donald Trump was sworn in, and his threats of tariffs have become increasingly real.
Poilievre promises that "Conservatives will take back control of our border and put Canada first," echoing one of U.S. President Donald Trump's reasons for threatening to impose tariffs on Canada.
Poilievre pledges to 'put Canada first’ in the face of U.S. tariffsOn Monday morning, before Trump announced a 30-day reprieve on his planned 25 per cent tariffs on Canadian goods, Poilievre proposed sending troops and helicopters to the border, adding 2,000 new border officers and expanding the powers of the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) across the entire border.
But in the same breath, he blamed the Liberal government for its failure at the border. According to Poilievre, Trump is in a strong position because the Liberals prevented the development of pipelines in Canada.
"President Trump has been given an incredible gift by these radical, anti-development Liberals when they block the projects that would have made us more self-reliant."
Poilievre is calling on the Liberals to recall MPs to the House of Commons to adopt his own Canada First plan.
But he hasn't committed to negotiating with the other parties on a plan. And he refuses to commit to bringing down the minority government at the first opportunity if the House were to come back.
One of the challenges, according to Conservative sources, is to strike the right balance in attacking the Liberals.
"Voters want us to stand up for Canada. But in times of crisis, they may be less receptive if we are too critical of the government."
Continuing the carbon tax attack?
According to sources, there are differences of opinion within the Conservative Party's decision-making apparatus on whether or not it's important to keep hammering away at the carbon tax.
A faction close to Poilievre continues to believe that the carbon tax strategy should not be dropped, because it goes to the heart of the Conservative message on affordability.
For months, Poilievre has been calling for a "carbon tax election" to get rid of Trudeau. But all the Liberal candidates who want to replace him promise to abolish, transform or suspend the carbon tax increase on individuals.
"We can't let the Liberals pull the rug out from under us," one source said. "By saying Carbon Tax Carney or Carbon Tax Chrystia, it's a way of tying them personally to Justin Trudeau's legacy. It's at the heart of our strategy."
Liberal frontrunners Carney, Freeland both vow to scrap carbon tax Several Conservatives also point out that a lot of money has been invested in this game plan, and there's little time left to change course.
"They don't want to reinvent the wheel at one minute to midnight, but I don't think they'll have a choice," a Conservative strategist said. "Canadians' minds are elsewhere."
After publication of this article, Poilievre's office sent a statement to CBC/Radio-Canada saying Mark Carney would continue the carbon tax under a different name, suggesting the party is not backing away from that focus.
"In the upcoming carbon tax election Canadians will have the chance to decide between Pierre Poilievre's common sense Conservatives who will axe the tax for everyone, everywhere, once and for all and the Just Like Justin Liberals who will impose an even bigger carbon tax under a new name," the statement read.
How best to handle Carney?
"We'll have to manage the next Liberal leader differently," one Conservative source said. "People hated Justin Trudeau, but are more neutral towards Mark Carney, because they don't know him."
According to many Conservatives, former Bank of Canada governor Mark Carney embodies novelty, while former finance minister Chrystia Freeland is easier to tie to Justin Trudeau's legacy.
Last week, the Conservatives seemed to be keeping close tabs on Carney. Two Conservative MPs held press briefings in front of buildings where the Liberal leadership candidate was attending events.
The Conservatives didn't give the same treatment to other aspiring leaders such as Freeland and Karina Gould.
"It just goes to show you who we think is going to win," a Conservative source said.
"This is our chance to define Mark Carney in people's minds. But the window is slim, especially if he declares a snap election," the source said. "We have to tell the world that Carney, he's not an outsider. He was behind Justin Trudeau's policies, he was pulling the strings."
Holding the lead
The Conservatives also recognize that the Liberals are enjoying a slight bump in the polls, with Trudeau's departure and Trump's bellicose rhetoric.
"There may be some Liberals fed up with Trudeau who had come to the Conservatives and are now going back to the Liberals," admits a former Conservative campaign manager. "But our base is there. It's solid and it's going to stay with us."
Polls show a slight decline for the Conservatives and a small increase for the Liberals in recent weeks. According to Abacus Data, the Conservative lead has dropped from 26 to 21 points. According to Léger, the Conservative lead has shrunk to 18 points.
Liberal
leadership candidate Mark Carney, left, speaks with Conservative Leader
Pierre Poilievre before a ceremony at the National Holocaust Monument
in Ottawa on Jan. 27, 2025. (Adrian Wyld/The Canadian Press)
The CBC Poll Tracker shows the Liberals have made gains over the last few weeks, but the Conservatives still hold a wide and decisive lead.
Several Conservatives said this burst of enthusiasm for the Liberals won't last.
"The size of the victory may shrink, but we'll win just the same," a former Conservative strategist said.
Some Conservatives acknowledge they may lose some seats in Ontario or Atlantic Canada that they were hoping to win, "but not enough to hurt us."
"Look at [Democratic presidential candidate] Kamala Harris in the U.S. That didn't last long," said one Conservative. "We're not afraid, but we don't take anything for granted."
According to this strategist, Carney will have a hard time winning support from middle-class Canadians.
"Pierre Poilievre has been courting the working class for two years," says a former Conservative campaign manager. "If Mr. Carney tries to present himself as an ordinary person, it's not very convincing. It's hard for people to believe that a banker really understands their day-to-day challenges."
Although the Liberal race has barely begun, the Conservatives' target is already clear.
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Carney pledges 'no bailouts'
Carney on regulationBank of Canada governor Mark Carney says he wants to reform global financial rules to ensure that no banks can become large enough that they'd threaten the global economy.
"I'm saying no bailouts," Carney told the CBC's George Stroumboulopoulos in a recent interview. "The objective [is] ending 'too big to fail'."
Carney was recently named head of the Financial Stability Board, a recently formed international agency with a mandate to oversee the international financial system. In the interview, he says the goal is to bring global rules closer to Canada's model.
"We're going to change the rules so the system as a whole is more resilient," he said. "If a big global bank fails, the system goes on. [Just] that company goes away.
Some of the rules will be changes to capital ratios. The ultimate goal, Carney says, is to ensure that the financial system works like any other industry. "If you succeed you get rewarded but if you fail, you fail and the rest of the economy goes on," he said.
While he says the U.S. decision to bail out a number of banks in 2008 was "absolutely" the right decision at the time, he doesn't want to see a repeat.
"If you make a mistake, you go out of business," he said.
Banks got $114B from governments during recession
Support for banks 'more substantial than Canadians were led to believe': CCPA report
An
analysis by CCPA senior economist David Macdonald found that Canada's
major lenders were in a far worse position during the downturn than has
ever been previously believed. Canada's biggest banks accepted tens of billions in government funds during the recession, according to a report released today by the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives.
Canada's banking system is often lauded for being one of the world's safest. But an analysis by CCPA senior economist David Macdonald concluded that Canada's major lenders were in a far worse position during the downturn than previously believed.
Macdonald examined data provided by the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation, the Office of the Superintendent of Financial Institutions and the big banks themselves for his report published Monday.
It says support for Canadian banks from various agencies reached $114 billion at its peak. That works out to $3,400 for every man, woman and child in Canada, and also to seven per cent of Canada's gross domestic product in 2009.
The figure is also 10 times the amount Canadian taxpayers spent on the auto industry in 2009.
"At some point during the crisis, three of Canada's banks — CIBC, BMO, and Scotiabank — were completely under water, with government support exceeding the market value of the company," Macdonald said.
"Without government supports to fall back on, Canadian banks would have been in serious trouble."
During October 2008 and June 2010, the banks combined to report $27 billion in profits on their balance sheets.
CMHC mortgage program aided banks
One of the most well-known ways in which policymakers helped the banks during the crisis is through a $69-billion CMHC program whereby the housing agency took mortgages off the balance sheets of big Canadian banks. In contrast with other support facilities, all of the funds granted by the CMHC were through selling assets (in this case mortgages) to the housing agency. They were not funds that had to be paid back.
The CMHC has provided the aggregate total of how much was given out, but has yet to release specifics on which banks sold how much to them, and when, the CCPA says.
When asked for comment in reaction to the CCPA report, the Canadian Bankers Association noted that the $69 billion that Canada's big banks sold into the CMHC program is in fact only 55 per cent of what was allocated for the program.
"Many of the mortgages were already insured and therefore, created no additional risk for the government," the CBA noted in an email to CBC News. The CMHC estimates that by the time the program is wound up, it will have generated $2.5 billion in profit as those mortgages are paid off, the bankers' group noted.
Calling the CCPA report "completely baseless," Department of Finance spokesperson Chisholm Pothier noted that the mortgage program has already generated more than $1.2 billion in net revenues for the CMHC's coffers.
But Canadian lenders also dipped into a program set up by the U.S. Federal Reserve aimed at providing cash to keep American banks afloat. CIBC and BMO took almost $3 billion each out of the fund, RBC and TD took out $8 billion and Scotiabank drew down almost $12 billion, the CCPA report found.
That data came from the U.S. Federal Reserve, which released it publicly. But Macdonald's analysis found that Canadian banks got a comparable amount — $41 billion — from Bank of Canada facilities, an agency that has been far less transparent in sharing information.
"Despite Access to Information requests for the data, the Bank of Canada refuses to release it," the CCPA report states.
"The federal government claims it was offering the banks 'liquidity support,' but it looks an awful lot like a bailout to me," says Macdonald. "Whatever you call it, Canadian government aid for the country's biggest banks was far more indispensable than the official line would suggest.
"The support for Canadian banks was much more substantial than Canadians were led to believe," Macdonald said.
The Canadian Bankers Association disputes the notion that the funds in question were any sort of bailout, arguing they were routine transactions aimed at keeping the financial system liquid.
"These funding measures were put in place to ensure that credit was available to lend to businesses and consumers to help the economy through the recession," the CBA said. "These funding measures were not put in place because banks were in financial difficulty."
Since the start of the recession, the CBA notes 436 U.S. banks have failed. No Canadian financial institution went under, but Canada's banking sector was hit by an overall crisis of confidence in the banking sector that caused some of the banks' normal lending sources to dry up, the CBA says.
Canadian banks get about two-thirds of their funding from consumer and business deposits, but the other third comes from credit markets.
"It was these markets that were seizing up. Funding was less available," the CBA says. "Canadian banks continued to lend and increased their lending after some non-bank lenders pulled out of the Canadian market."
While some of the funding came from government sources such as the Bank of Canada, the bankers' association points out that the central bank itself says Canadian banks needed less official central bank liquidity support than their foreign counterparts.
"The credit was extended at competitive interest rates to protect taxpayers," Pothier said. "Financial institutions accepting this credit paid interest on the loans."
To show the scale of the funding, the CCPA report contrasted the total value of the support Canadian banks took against the bank's total value at the time. Under that comparison, CIBC received $21 billion in support — almost 1.5 times the value of the company at the time. BMO maxed out at $17 billion or 118 per cent, Scotiabank peaked at $25 billion or 100 per cent of its value, while TD and RBC maxed out at $26 billion and $25 billion — good enough for 69 and 63 per cent, respectively, of the total value of those companies at the time.
"It would have been cheaper to buy every single share in these companies," Macdonald said.
But the CBA disputes those numbers too, saying comparing a bank's value to the level with which it participated in a liquidity program aimed at boosting confidence in the market is "an apples to oranges comparison as the two factors are not at all related."
"The Oxford dictionary defines bailout as 'financial assistance to a failing business or economy to save it from collapse," the Canadian Bankers Association noted.
"That definitely was not the case here: not one bank in Canada was in danger of going bankrupt or required the government to buy an equity stake under taxpayer-funded bailouts."
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Mark Carney's Liberal leadership run leads to shakeup at top of Brookfield
CEO Bruce Flatt to take on added responsibility of chair as a result of Carney’s departure
Former Bank of Canada governor Mark Carney’s decision to throw his hat in the ring in the race to become leader of the federal Liberal party has led to a shakeup at the top of Brookfield Asset Management.
Carney, who launched his bid for leadership of the Liberal Party of Canada on Thursday afternoon in Edmonton, also tendered his resignation as chair of Brookfield, an alternative asset management company with $1 trillion of assets under management.
In a statement Thursday afternoon, Brookfield said chief executive Bruce Flatt would take on the added responsibility of the chair’s role as a result of Carney’s departure.
“We are sorry to see him leave, but he does so to fulfill his deep sense of public service to Canada and we wish him all the best in his new pursuit,” Flatt said in a statement.
He said Carney has played an important role at the firm since joining in 2020, including as chair over the past couple of years. That included spearheading Broofield’s efforts in transition finance tied to climate change.
Carney’s position at Brookfield became a target of elected members of the Conservative Party of Canada, who sit in opposition to Justin Trudeau’s minority government, after he was retained as an economic adviser to the Liberal party last year. They sought to have Carney’s activities examined to see if there were conflicts, claims that picked up steam after it was reported that Brookfield had proposed a multi-billion investment fund that would be seeded by the federal government and Canada’s largest pensions.
Carney used the launch of his leadership bid to go after Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre, who is leading in the polls, suggesting the longtime politician’s pitch for Canada is based on slogans and soundbites rather than solid economic policy.
Since leaving the Bank of England in 2020, Carney’s other roles have included serving as chair of U.S. financial data and media company Bloomberg LP and as a UN Special Envoy on Climate Action and Finance.
Flatt said Thursday that Brookfield, which moved its head office to New York from Toronto in December, has a seasoned team that will continue in Carney’s absence.
“Our deep bench of experienced investment and operating professionals will continue to steer Brookfield’s world-leading transition investing activities,” Flatt said.
The head office move, which was done in concert with a corporate restructuring, was made to reflect increasingly global asset ownership and to take advantage of potential increased share trading through Brookfield’s inclusion in some U.S.market indices.
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Who is Mark Carney, the man who could be Liberal king?
Carney announces he will run to succeed Justin Trudeau
Last month, former Bank of Canada governor Mark Carney appeared poised to become the country’s next finance minister. Now, he has an even bigger post in his sights.
On Thursday, Carney announced he is running to succeed Justin Trudeau as leader of the Liberal Party Canada, a contest that could elevate him within weeks to the post of prime minister — if only until a widely expected federal election.
Carney’s official entry into the Liberal race comes after months of speculation about his political ambitions following a notable career in finance and central banking.
Born in Fort Smith, Northwest Territories, Carney grew up in Edmonton before pursuing a degree in economics at Harvard University and master’s and doctoral degrees in 1993 and 1995, respectively, at the University of Oxford.
Becoming a banker wasn’t always the obvious career choice, he told The Guardian newspaper in a 2021 interview. Instead, he fancied being a marine biologist but prioritized banking as he found it the most “most effective way” to pay off his student loans.
He worked at Goldman Sachs Group Inc. for 13 years in various roles including as a managing director in the investment banking division before joining the Bank of Canada as deputy governor in 2003.
A year later, he joined the Department of Finance as a senior associate deputy minister.
Carney played a key role as part of the team that successfully sold Ottawa’s 18.6 per cent stake in Petro-Canada in 2004 for $3.3 billion — which at the time was Canada’s biggest ever equity offering.
“The transaction was completed without major glitches, under an aggressive timeline at the peak of the market, to the maximum benefit of all those involved, and without controversy — a feat for a major deal involving the federal government,” the Financial Post reported in 2005.
In 2008, Carney was appointed as Bank of Canada governor. At the time, he was the youngest central bank governor among the group of eight industrialized nations and his appointment came as a surprise, to some: Paul Jenkins, then the Bank of Canada’s senior deputy governor, was the favourite among economists to take the job.
In a report published on Oct. 5, 2007, the Financial Post described Carney as “relatively unknown” and that his position on issues facing the Canadian economy was “something of a mystery.”
“He was deputy governor for just over a year, between 2003 and 2004, and I actually cannot find a speech that he gave,” one economist told the Post.
Carney’s first interest rate announcement as governor, a month into the job in March 2008, turned out to be a bit of a nail-biter. It was near the height of the financial crisis and though economists were sure interest rates were going down, they were divided over whether the bank would cut by a quarter of a percentage point or a half.
Carney announced a 50-basis-point cut. He then gradually took Canada into uncharted territory by lowering the benchmark lending rate to 0.25 per cent in 2009 — the lowest level possible to support the economy — and signalled it would remain there until June 2010.
In addition to lowering interest rates, he also declared his intention to be a more “forceful advocate in influencing public policy and market behaviour” to ensure financial stability, according to a Financial Post report published on Dec 18, 2008.
Advocacy “is something in which we want to be more prominent and do a better job of, quite frankly,” Carney told reporters.
While the United States spent more than US$400 billion to help its financial institutions stave off collapse during the financial crisis, Canada did not have to bail out any banks.
Some analysts credited Carney’s 13-year experience at Goldman Sachs for helping him navigate the crisis. Critics have argued that the ultra-low interest rate policies he ushered in — and which became a recurring theme in the post-crisis years — have had long-term consequences, including encouraging Canadians to borrow more than they required.
For the most part, the accolades flowed in the wake of the crisis. In 2010, Time magazine selected Carney as one of the world’s 100 most influential people. In 2011, Reader’s Digest Canada named him the Most Trusted Canadian, and in 2012, he was named the Central Bank Governor of the Year by the editors of Euromoney magazine.
With his stardom on the rise in central banking circles, Carney took on prestigious roles at several global regulatory bodies. In November 2011, he was named chairman of the Basel-based Financial Stability Board, a body that was established after the financial crisis to protect the global financial system.
Carney then became governor of the Bank of England in 2013. It was a surprise considering he had denied being a candidate for the role that year.
“It might have been less of a surprise had the governor announced a bid for the Liberal leadership — speculated and strongly denied as well,” the Financial Post reported in November 2013.
Some felt that Carney was shirking his responsibilities in Canada, in departing while interest rates remained at extreme lows.
Carney at the time said it was a difficult decision, but the “right decision.”
“I’m going to where the challenges are greatest because I’m confident that the strengths are as deep and as broad as they are here in Canada,” he said.
Carney’s time in England was largely regarded as successful, but he was criticized from some in government for being too outspoken, especially on Brexit.
British politician Jacob Rees-Mogg called for Carney’s resignation after the governor suggested that leaving the European Union could trigger a recession.
MP Pat McFadden in 2014 compared the Bank of England to an unreliable boyfriend due to its mixed signals over the timing of future interest rate rises.
Carney stepped down from the position in 2020 after completing his term, and much of his subsequent work has been geared toward encouraging the financial sector to address climate change.
He joined Brookfield Asset Management where he is the head of transition investing, focusing on ESG investments.
In February 2021, Carney walked back an earlier claim that Brookfield was carbon neutral amidst criticism from green advocates who said it ignored emissions from the firm’s investments in fossil fuel-based projects.
Carney is also co-chair of a global alliance to combat climate change called The Glasgow Financial Alliance for Net Zero (GFANZ), which was formed in 2021. Recently, a host of major U.S. banks announced that they were leaving a sub-group of the alliance called the Net-Zero Banking Alliance. Their departures followed Donald Trump’s election as president for the second time.
During this period, Carney also began to signal an interest in entering politics. In 2021, he delivered a virtual speech to the Liberal party convention.
In September 2024, he took on a formal role with the party as chair of the Task Force on Economic Growth, reporting back to the prime minister on economic options for the country.
In October, he took aim at the Conservatives on a podcast show run by Liberal MP Nate Erskine-Smith.
“One of the things that has drawn me more into politics right now is we have an opposition who is leading in the polls (and) who doesn’t understand the economy,” he said.
Conservative Party of Canada leader Pierre Poilievre has been equally critical of Carney, referring to him as “carbon-tax Carney” on several occasions.
Following the surprise resignation of Chrystia Freeland in December, Poilievre sought to emphasize Carney’s ties to Trudeau.
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“The prime minister with the help and instigation of carbon-tax Carney pushed Ms. Freeland to bring on massive, unsustainable, irresponsible spending increases that blew through her self-imposed guardrail,” Poilievre told reporters after Freeland resigned.
“He thought that he would simply push her through that guardrail and off the cliff so that she and not he and Mr. Carney would take the blame for the crisis.”
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Letters to the editor, Jan. 12: ‘If Mark Carney chooses to run for the leadership, all of us in Canada would be blessed’
Former Bank of Canada governor Mark Carney speaks to reporters at the Liberal caucus retreat in Nanaimo, B.C., on Sept. 10, 2024.DARRYL DYCK/The Canadian Press
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Re “Chrystia Freeland, Mark Carney poised to enter Liberal leadership race” (Jan. 10): When I lived in Edmonton, my husband and I were good friends with Bob and Verlie Carney. This friendship was everlasting.
It was a privilege for our family to be friends with the Carneys. Bob and Verlie valued family, integrity, education, love of country. They had a giving spirit, recognizing their own good fortune and taking opportunities to give back to those most needy.
They installed their good values in their four children, their second son being Mark. When he was growing up, everyone said Mark was the smartest kid in the country, and probably still is.
What we need now is someone who can stand up to Trump. If Mark Carney chooses to run for the leadership, all of us in Canada would be blessed.
Bring Mr. Carney in now to head U.S. trade negotiations. He has a brilliant mind and, yes, like his father, he loves this country.
Billie Purcell Toronto
Within minutes after his resignation announcement, speculation about a successor to Justin Trudeau achieved full steam.
But I see a problem with almost everyone named so far: They have been part of the degraded Trudeau regime. For my part, I long for parties with leaders of moral integrity who can help renew our country by renewing the political life of Canada.
For the https://x.com/christyclarkbc/status/1877905200356430003Liberals, only one name comes to my mind: Jody Wilson-Raybould
If the Liberals could achieve such a feat, I would hope that the Conservatives could also renew their party with a new leader of similar moral integrity, to complete a renewal of Canada at its political core.
Archie Pell New Westminster, B.C.
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Mark Carney
Former Governor (2008 - 2013)
Mr. Carney was appointed Governor of the Bank of Canada, effective 1 February 2008, for a term of seven years.
After five and half years of service as Governor, Mr. Carney departed the Bank of Canada on 1 June 2013 to become the Governor of the Bank of England. He was appointed to this position on 26 November 2012, with an effective date of 1 July 2013.
Born in Fort Smith, Northwest Territories, Mr. Carney received a bachelor’s degree in economics from Harvard University in 1988. He received a master’s degree in economics in 1993 and a doctorate in economics in 1995, both from Oxford University. Mr. Carney was also awarded an Honorary Doctor of Laws from the University of Manitoba in April 2013.
Prior to joining the public service, Mr. Carney had a thirteen-year career with Goldman Sachs in its London, Tokyo, New York and Toronto offices. Mr. Carney was appointed Deputy Governor of the Bank of Canada in August 2003. In November 2004, he left the Bank to become Senior Associate Deputy Minister of Finance – a position he held until his appointment as Governor of the Bank.
While serving as Governor of the Bank of Canada, Mr. Carney was also appointed as Chairman of the Financial Stability Board (FSB) in November 2011 for a three year termMark Carney's appointment: the view from Canada
Former Canadian PM Paul Martin says he is 'very disappointed' to see new Bank of England governor leave
The surprise appointment of Bank of Canada governor, Mark Carney, to lead the Bank of England has been received as a compliment and a loss in Canada.
In September 2008, as interbank capital liquidity hoarding precipitated a financial tsunami from which Europe is still reeling, Carney ensured liquidity for borrowers through the central bank, cut interest rates to a historically low 0.25%, kept inflation under control, and ensured Canada borrowed at the best possible rates.
The 47-year-old Harvard and Oxford educated Canadian economist has a mission to reform the banking system so that taxpayers never again have to bail out "too big to fail" banks.
Former Canadian prime minister and minister of finance, Paul Martin, said that he was "very disappointed" to see Carney leave Canada "He has been an outstanding governor of the bank of Canada as well as a very progressive head of the financial stability board." The "silver lining", said Martin, is that Carney's appointment "bodes well for the economies in Canada, the United States, China and elsewhere".
"If what you're looking for is somebody who understands of the inner working of the banking system domestically, but at the same time its interconnections globally, and what has to be done globally, I think you've got a very, very strong person," said Martin.
Duncan Cameron, from the Centre for Global Political Economy at Simon Fraser University, said Carney "has demonstrated in the Canadian context a quite uncanny ability to get things done under difficult circumstances", adding that "as governor he hasn't made any wrong steps".
Following the collapse of Lehman Brothers in 2008, many Canadian banks and financial institutions held worthless mortgaged-backed bonds while other major players held none. Carney managed to negotiate a bailout settlement to share the losses.
Carney "turned his back on a very lucrative career in private banking to go into a public service job where his first job was to try and bang heads together and try and remedy an almost impossible situation", said Cameron.
"A lot of people wouldn't want to get up in the morning if they had to face that kind of situation and he seems to have thrived on it."
The Canadian banking system, which is made up of five large banks, has been ranked the most sound in the world five years in a row by the World Economic Forum, which praised it for being "well-capitalised, well-managed and well-regulated".
Canadian banks make loans on a case-by-case basis, depending on the creditor's ability to repay. Many of the high-risk and complex financial instruments that exacerbated the subprime mortgage fiasco in the US do not exist in Canada. This prudence has proven key to Canada's performance compared to its neighbour, which jumped on to the exotic, and ultimately toxic, trades bandwagon peddled by Wall Street and City of London.
While it is often boasted that after the 2008 financial crisis, Canadian banks didn't need a bailout, the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives has argued that Canadian banks profited from a secret bailout in the form if $114bn (7% of Canada's GDP) in emergency liquidity from the US Federal Reserve, the Bank of Canada and the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation, from October 2008 until well into 2010. The same thinktank has warned against excessive bragging about Canadian banks, calling it a "myth of Canadian exceptionalism" and insisting they are not "immune to the temptations and threats that compromised banks in Europe, the US and around the world".
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The Mark Carney bubble
It takes guts to stand up in a room full of distinguished men and women and tell them their opinions are ridiculous. This is not a problem for Bank of Canada governor Mark Carney.
In late September, he stood in just such a room at Washington’s Institute of International Finance and publicly criticized the organization’s own report contending that reforms to the financial system were hampering economic growth. Carney offered a sarcastic, “Really?” then pointed out that new regulations won’t take effect for another two years. “If some institutions feel pressure today,” he said, “it is because they have done too little for too long, rather than because they are being asked to do too much, too soon.”
The speech makes obvious Carney’s appeal. He’s intelligent, never lapses into econo-babble, and is a vocal advocate for regulation to lessen the chances and damage of another financial crisis. But while plenty of officials and politicians fit that description, Carney has developed an unusually high profile. In 2009, the Financial Times named him one of 50 who will “frame a way forward.”
Last year, Time called him one of the world’s 25 most influential leaders. (He’s also “smart and sexy,” according to the magazine, a descriptor surely never before applied to a Canadian central banker.) And in May, Reader’s Digest declared him the most trusted Canadian. Beyond the media infatuation, Carney has earned his share of professional accolades, too. Most recently, his name has been floated as the next head of the Financial Stability Board, an international body of regulators and central bankers crafting financial market reforms.
So what is it about Mark Carney? At 46 years old, he is accomplished, to be sure. His resumé—boasting a PhD in economics from Oxford and 13 years at Goldman Sachs—puts most of ours to shame. But Carney has also benefited from circumstance. The Canadian financial system and economy fared better than most during the recession, and he wasn’t forced to respond as dramatically as were other central bankers. Compared to the problems faced by Ben Bernanke at the U.S. Federal Reserve and outgoing European Central Bank president Jean-Claude Trichet, Carney’s tenure has been a cakewalk. “Any governor of the Bank of Canada during this confluence of circumstances would have looked good, simply because the Canadian economy and banks looked good,” says Rotman School of Management professor Laurence Booth.
In a way, Carney has become the living embodiment of decades of Canadian financial prudence—partly through his own actions, and partly for reasons he had nothing to do with. But as his influence grows, so too do the challenges that will ultimately determine his reputation.
When Carney succeeded David Dodge in February 2008, he was relatively young and inexperienced for a central bank governor. He had left Goldman to become a deputy governor at the central bank in 2003, and moved to the Department of Finance a year later. He grasped politics better than some of his colleagues, and understood how the public would react to policy. “He had a well-informed view that wasn’t simply the product of advanced courses in econometrics,” says Karl Littler, who served as an adviser to former prime minister Paul Martin.
His appointment to head the Bank of Canada, however, was something of a surprise since Paul Jenkins, Dodge’s senior deputy governor since 2003, was a strong contender. Carney had also become known for being blunt and impatient with those who couldn’t immediately understand concepts. “A few people there had found him somewhat difficult to work with,” says Rotman professor Paul Masson, who served as a special adviser to the central bank between 2007 and 2008. But while an e-mail sent by the U.S. Embassy in Ottawa to the Federal Reserve at the time of his appointment (unearthed by WikiLeaks) noted Carney had been described as “arrogant” in the press, it countered, “we have found Carney to be not only approachable, but also extremely competent and effective at public outreach.”
He’s put to rest concerns about his youth and demeanour. When the financial crisis hit in 2008, he provided unprecedented liquidity to the banks and cut interest rates to the lowest levels in Canadian history. “His actions contributed materially to helping the financial system through its difficult time,” says Craig Alexander, chief economist at TD Bank Financial Group.
When it comes to forecasting, the central bank’s record under Carney hasn’t been any better or worse than the private sector. Carney’s growth projections in early 2009 were more optimistic than most, which raised questions during a meeting of the House of Commons standing committee on finance. Carney retorted, “We don’t do optimism. We don’t do pessimism. We do realism at the Bank of Canada.” The projections proved too bullish, however, and the central bank revised its estimates downward. It has also pushed back its timeline for raising rates. Still, the past few years have been difficult for forecasters, and markets look to the Bank of Canada for an indication of where interest rates are headed, not specific GDP growth estimates. On that front, Carney has delivered.
Looking back at his performance, though, it’s hard not to wonder if any central bank governor would have acted differently. It’s impossible to say definitively, of course. Glen Hodgson, chief economist at the Conference Board of Canada, points out there is no comparison to what’s happened recently. “What you saw was a collective response of the senior management team at the bank to really exceptional circumstances,” he says, adding that Carney’s private-sector experience and knowledge of financial markets did give him an edge past governors wouldn’t have had. But in talking to economists about Carney, the phrase that often comes up is that “he did everything he was supposed to do.” His actions are simply what we expect from central bankers, partly because he’s the latest in a competent line.
The Bank of Canada underwent a significant change in 1991 when it implemented inflation-targeting to combat the double-digit interest rates that plagued the country during the 1980s. Since then, it has maintained the rate of inflation between 1% and 3%. “Much of the heavy lifting in gaining credibility was done in the 1990s, when the bank didn’t have that much,” says Rotman’s Booth.
The federal government brought down its deficit over roughly the same time period, putting Canada on solid fiscal ground. The banking sector, meanwhile, was tightly regulated by the Office of the Superintendent of Financial Institutions, ensuring our banks didn’t take the risks that American and European institutions did. For all of these reasons, the Canadian financial system and the economy prevailed during the recession. While the crisis was still a trial by fire that Carney handled deftly, Booth likens it to a “little minor campfire…it just hasn’t been as bad a situation as it has elsewhere.”
Nonetheless, other countries took note of Canada’s relative strength, translating into a bigger role for the country internationally, whether at G20 meetings or when Prime Minister Stephen Harper goes on a foreign media blitz to champion Canada.
That golden image has rubbed off on Carney, too—and he wears it well. Paul Martin, now an adviser to the International Monetary Fund, says it’s nearly impossible to do such work and not have Carney’s name come up. Both Trichet and his successor at the ECB, Mario Draghi, have spoken highly of him in private conversations without any prompting from Martin. Unlike finance ministers who come and go based on the whims of the electorate, central bankers are in place for a long time and tend to form an exclusive club on the international scene. “To break into that closed circle as quickly as he has done is a real indication of the high regard in which he is held,” Martin says.
His knowledge and experience with financial markets—which many central bankers lack—and his ability to talk about complex issues in a way people understand help explain why Finance Minister Jim Flaherty stated publicly his desire to see Carney take over the FSB in November when current chair Draghi leaves. Should he take the post, Carney faces a number of challenges. Some are calling for the organization to be given more teeth. Guidelines for issues such as bank stress tests have to be developed and enforced, a complicated process when dealing with more than 20 countries. And there is opposition to reform from the banks. Carney got a taste of it when JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon lashed out at him over regulations during a September meeting, allegedly prompting Carney to storm out.
“There is a list of issues as long as your arm the new head is going to have to deal with,” Martin says, adding that strengthening the FSB is “one of the most important things we can do to prevent these kinds of crises.” But it’s questionable whether Carney could complete the work on a part-time basis, as Flaherty suggested would be the case, and still serve his term as governor.
There are challenges at home, too, principally household debt. Low interest rates are encouraging Canadians to borrow at worrying levels, and contributing to a hot housing market. The longer rates stay low, the more debt Canadians pile on, and the bigger the eventual shock when rates rise. Should there be a real estate correction or another obstacle to households paying down debt in the coming years, it will be easy to ask with the benefit of hindsight why rates were kept so low for so long. (Alan Greenspan, the now-reviled former head of the Federal Reserve, found himself in that situation.)
Unlike Greenspan, Carney is clearly concerned and has repeatedly warned Canadians not to borrow more than they can afford. However, “It seemed a little unusual to be keeping interest rates at extraordinarily low levels, and then chastising Canadians for turning around and accepting those very low interest rates,” says Doug Porter, deputy chief economist at BMO Capital Markets. Alexander at TD likens it to providing an open bar at a wedding and warning guests not to overindulge.
But as both acknowledge, Carney’s hands are tied. Interest rates need to be kept low to encourage business lending and bolster the economy in general. Turning off the credit spigot too early could have severe consequences. Few, if any, Canadian economists are advocating for an immediate rate hike. Even the C.D. Howe Institute, which had been calling for an increase as recently as July, reversed course.
The irony is that Carney has built his sterling reputation in part by doing exactly what circumstances required of him—the same approach that may eventually see his reputation suffer a correction, if low interest rates ultimately cause problems. The effects of those low rates won’t fully be felt for some time, however, and for now, Carney’s star remains on the rise. Says Booth, “He’s the right person in the right job at the right point in time.”
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"The Great Taking" is a plan by central bankers to confiscate all securities, bank deposits and debt-financed property, as revealed by former hedge fund manager David Webb.
The plan involves exploiting the global debt accumulation super cycle, rehypothecation of assets, and the centralisation of control over financial institutions.
To survive "The Great Taking", Nick Giambruno suggests people should aim to be debt-free and own unencumbered assets within their direct control, avoiding fiat currency in bank accounts and unsecured liabilities.
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How To Survive “The Great Taking” in 2025
It’s a “scheme of central bankers to subjugate humanity by taking all securities, bank deposits, and property financed with debt.”
David Webb, a former hedge fund manager, and Wall Street insider, has blown the lid off a diabolical plan more than 50 years in the making in a shocking new book. He calls it 'The Great Taking'. I consider it an urgent must-read (available for free HERE).
Here’s the synopsis (emphasis mine):
It is about the taking of collateral (all of it), the end game of the current globally synchronous debt accumulation super cycle.
This scheme is being executed by long-planned, intelligent design, the audacity and scope of which is difficult for the mind to encompass.
Included are all financial assets and bank deposits, all stocks and bonds; and hence, all underlying property of all public corporations, including all inventories, plant and equipment; land, mineral deposits, inventions and intellectual property.
Privately owned personal and real property financed with any amount of debt will likewise be taken, as will the assets of privately owned businesses which have been financed with debt.
If even partially successful, this will be the greatest conquest and subjugation in world history.
Private, closely held control of ALL central banks, and hence of all money creation, has allowed a very few people to control all political parties and governments; the intelligence agencies and their myriad front organisations; the armed forces and the police; the major corporations and, of course, the media. These very few people are the prime movers. Their plans are executed over decades. Their control is opaque.
To be clear, it is these very few people, who are hidden from you, who are behind this scheme to confiscate all assets, who are waging a hybrid war against humanity.
Webb shows how the dark forces behind central banking have spent the last 50 years meticulously putting the legal structures in place worldwide to sever property rights for securities.
Gone are the days of physical paper share certificates and bearer securities, where you had control and ownership of the asset.
Today, your control and ownership have become increasingly distant as stocks, bonds and other investments have been centralised away from account holders and rehypothecated - a slimy practice where financial institutions reuse an account holder’s asset for their own purposes, creating multiple claims on the same asset.
Contrary to what most brokerage account holders believe, they only have the appearance of ownership. If their broker goes bust, the stocks and bonds they think they own will be used to satisfy the other more senior creditors of their broker.
Webb shows how, during the 2008 financial crisis, a small broker in Florida went bankrupt. Instead of sending the clients’ securities to another broker, as had traditionally been the case, they were swept up by the bankruptcy receiver.
But it’s not just some isolated small broker.
The bankruptcy of Lehman Brothers set the case law precedent for secured creditors to take client assets in the case of insolvency.
The most senior secured creditors are the most powerful financial institutions closest to the central banks - JP Morgan, BlackRock, Goldman Sachs, etc.
The net effect of The Great Taking will be the biggest centralisation of money and power in history as they take everyone’s securities during a future crisis. Though it’s not just securities, they will also take ANY asset financed by debt - like real estate, cars and small businesses - as people become unable to service their debts.
Webb provides all the details and proof in his book. Here’s the bottom line.
The most powerful people in the world have succeeded in subverting the property rights of securities and ensnaring most of the world with debt.
The trap has been set, and the legal plumbing is in place.
All that is needed is a big crisis that will cause a tidal wave of bankruptcies and the hidden forces behind the world’s central banks will be able to take everyone’s stocks, bonds and any property financed by debt.
All the assets people think they own in brokerage accounts, bank accounts, pensions and other financial accounts could vanish overnight.
Webb says, “There will be a game of musical chairs. When the music stops, you will not have a seat. It is designed to work that way.”
The Coming Collapse Is by Design
Webb makes a compelling case that the next financial crisis won’t be an accident; the global elite are making it happen to proceed with The Great Taking. In short, it’s not plausible that such an intelligent, deliberate plan executed with persistence for more than 50 years could happen by accident.
Further, the forces behind central banking and (fake) money creation undoubtedly understand the dynamics of the boom-bust cycle they create by expanding and contracting the money supply. They know the Everything Bubble they created will lead to a massive bust. That’s when they will execute The Great Taking.
Further, consumer debt is at record highs. After many years of being encouraged to go deeply into debt, many Americans have reached their maximum debt saturation. They will be ripe for the picking. As Webb explains:
“Debt is not a real thing. It is an invention, a construct designed to take real things.
The bottom line is that debt has for centuries had the function of dispossessing, of taking away property, capital and investments from someone.”
What You Can Do About It?
Nobody knows the future or how The Great Taking will play out. The best you can do is to make yourself a hard target and not be among the low-hanging fruit.
You can do that by being debt-free and owning unencumbered assets within your direct control.
You don’t want to own something that is simultaneously someone else’s liability. That’s because the legal structures are already in place to take it from you during the next crisis. Crucially, this includes fiat currency in bank accounts.
Remember, fiat currency is the unbacked liability of a bankrupt government. Further, once you deposit currency into a bank, it is no longer yours. Technically and legally, it is the bank’s property, and what you own instead is an unsecured liability of the bank.
As The Great Taking unfolds, you won’t want to be on the other end of unsecured liabilities or IOUs of any kind.
I believe The Great Taking could happen sooner than most realise - and it won’t be pretty for many. Most people have no idea how bad things could get - or how to prepare. That’s why I’ve published a detailed guide called ‘The Most Dangerous Economic Crisis in 100 Years: The Top 3 Strategies You Need Right Now’. Click here to download the free PDF.
About the Author
Nick Giambruno is a renowned speculator and international investor known for his expertise in identifying geopolitical and economic trends. He specialises in finding lucrative investment opportunities in overlooked markets and advises on reducing political risks through international diversification.
He is the founder of The Financial Underground, a platform dedicated to uncovering truths about money and markets. He frequently speaks at investment conferences worldwide and has been featured in various publications including The Economist, Forbes, Zero Hedge and MoneyWeek.
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Data for Total Outstanding Debt, Schedule Payment and Financial Obligations by Canada and small, medium and large Census Metropolitan Areas can aid with research. This adapted Equifax data is displayed by mortgages, HELOCs, lines of credit, auto loans, credit cards and all other credit.
Quarterly housing finance research is available from 2019 to 2024. Economists, housing finance researchers, mortgage and financial specialists can use this table for their research and analysis.
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The plot thickens
Carney pledges 'no bailouts'
Carney on regulationBank of Canada governor Mark Carney says he wants to reform global financial rules to ensure that no banks can become large enough that they'd threaten the global economy.
"I'm saying no bailouts," Carney told the CBC's George Stroumboulopoulos in a recent interview. "The objective [is] ending 'too big to fail'."
Carney was recently named head of the Financial Stability Board, a recently formed international agency with a mandate to oversee the international financial system. In the interview, he says the goal is to bring global rules closer to Canada's model.
"We're going to change the rules so the system as a whole is more resilient," he said. "If a big global bank fails, the system goes on. [Just] that company goes away.
Some of the rules will be changes to capital ratios. The ultimate goal, Carney says, is to ensure that the financial system works like any other industry. "If you succeed you get rewarded but if you fail, you fail and the rest of the economy goes on," he said.
While he says the U.S. decision to bail out a number of banks in 2008 was "absolutely" the right decision at the time, he doesn't want to see a repeat.
"If you make a mistake, you go out of business," he said.
Banks got $114B from governments during recession
Support for banks 'more substantial than Canadians were led to believe': CCPA report
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analysis by CCPA senior economist David Macdonald found that Canada's
major lenders were in a far worse position during the downturn than has
ever been previously believed. Canada's biggest banks accepted tens of billions in government funds during the recession, according to a report released today by the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives.
Canada's banking system is often lauded for being one of the world's safest. But an analysis by CCPA senior economist David Macdonald concluded that Canada's major lenders were in a far worse position during the downturn than previously believed.
Macdonald examined data provided by the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation, the Office of the Superintendent of Financial Institutions and the big banks themselves for his report published Monday.
It says support for Canadian banks from various agencies reached $114 billion at its peak. That works out to $3,400 for every man, woman and child in Canada, and also to seven per cent of Canada's gross domestic product in 2009.
The figure is also 10 times the amount Canadian taxpayers spent on the auto industry in 2009.
"At some point during the crisis, three of Canada's banks — CIBC, BMO, and Scotiabank — were completely under water, with government support exceeding the market value of the company," Macdonald said.
"Without government supports to fall back on, Canadian banks would have been in serious trouble."
During October 2008 and June 2010, the banks combined to report $27 billion in profits on their balance sheets.
CMHC mortgage program aided banks
One of the most well-known ways in which policymakers helped the banks during the crisis is through a $69-billion CMHC program whereby the housing agency took mortgages off the balance sheets of big Canadian banks. In contrast with other support facilities, all of the funds granted by the CMHC were through selling assets (in this case mortgages) to the housing agency. They were not funds that had to be paid back.
The CMHC has provided the aggregate total of how much was given out, but has yet to release specifics on which banks sold how much to them, and when, the CCPA says.
When asked for comment in reaction to the CCPA report, the Canadian Bankers Association noted that the $69 billion that Canada's big banks sold into the CMHC program is in fact only 55 per cent of what was allocated for the program.
"Many of the mortgages were already insured and therefore, created no additional risk for the government," the CBA noted in an email to CBC News. The CMHC estimates that by the time the program is wound up, it will have generated $2.5 billion in profit as those mortgages are paid off, the bankers' group noted.
Calling the CCPA report "completely baseless," Department of Finance spokesperson Chisholm Pothier noted that the mortgage program has already generated more than $1.2 billion in net revenues for the CMHC's coffers.
But Canadian lenders also dipped into a program set up by the U.S. Federal Reserve aimed at providing cash to keep American banks afloat. CIBC and BMO took almost $3 billion each out of the fund, RBC and TD took out $8 billion and Scotiabank drew down almost $12 billion, the CCPA report found.
That data came from the U.S. Federal Reserve, which released it publicly. But Macdonald's analysis found that Canadian banks got a comparable amount — $41 billion — from Bank of Canada facilities, an agency that has been far less transparent in sharing information.
"Despite Access to Information requests for the data, the Bank of Canada refuses to release it," the CCPA report states.
"The federal government claims it was offering the banks 'liquidity support,' but it looks an awful lot like a bailout to me," says Macdonald. "Whatever you call it, Canadian government aid for the country's biggest banks was far more indispensable than the official line would suggest.
"The support for Canadian banks was much more substantial than Canadians were led to believe," Macdonald said.
The Canadian Bankers Association disputes the notion that the funds in question were any sort of bailout, arguing they were routine transactions aimed at keeping the financial system liquid.
"These funding measures were put in place to ensure that credit was available to lend to businesses and consumers to help the economy through the recession," the CBA said. "These funding measures were not put in place because banks were in financial difficulty."
Since the start of the recession, the CBA notes 436 U.S. banks have failed. No Canadian financial institution went under, but Canada's banking sector was hit by an overall crisis of confidence in the banking sector that caused some of the banks' normal lending sources to dry up, the CBA says.
Canadian banks get about two-thirds of their funding from consumer and business deposits, but the other third comes from credit markets.
"It was these markets that were seizing up. Funding was less available," the CBA says. "Canadian banks continued to lend and increased their lending after some non-bank lenders pulled out of the Canadian market."
While some of the funding came from government sources such as the Bank of Canada, the bankers' association points out that the central bank itself says Canadian banks needed less official central bank liquidity support than their foreign counterparts.
"The credit was extended at competitive interest rates to protect taxpayers," Pothier said. "Financial institutions accepting this credit paid interest on the loans."
To show the scale of the funding, the CCPA report contrasted the total value of the support Canadian banks took against the bank's total value at the time. Under that comparison, CIBC received $21 billion in support — almost 1.5 times the value of the company at the time. BMO maxed out at $17 billion or 118 per cent, Scotiabank peaked at $25 billion or 100 per cent of its value, while TD and RBC maxed out at $26 billion and $25 billion — good enough for 69 and 63 per cent, respectively, of the total value of those companies at the time.
"It would have been cheaper to buy every single share in these companies," Macdonald said.
But the CBA disputes those numbers too, saying comparing a bank's value to the level with which it participated in a liquidity program aimed at boosting confidence in the market is "an apples to oranges comparison as the two factors are not at all related."
"The Oxford dictionary defines bailout as 'financial assistance to a failing business or economy to save it from collapse," the Canadian Bankers Association noted.
"That definitely was not the case here: not one bank in Canada was in danger of going bankrupt or required the government to buy an equity stake under taxpayer-funded bailouts."
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From: Erik Andersen
Date: Sat, Jan 11, 2025 at 3:03 PM
Subject: Fwd: Our interview
To:
No worries, thanks.I imagine you are very busy but if have a little quiet time I recommend the the book by Yanis Varoufakis titled "Adults in the Room". His description of the financial chaos in 2008 helps your understanding the fragility we now are sensing. Cheers ErikHello ErikI'm very sorry for the late reply, I have been extremely busy. Feel free to share this. It was a great episode for me as I learned a lot from you.All the best,Peyman
https://youtu.be/YaYz9MXTJCg?
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Date: Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 10:01 PM
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From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Dec 31, 2024 at 2:06 PM
Subject: Fwd: IMHO David McGuinty as our latest Minister of Public Safety MUST Review ALL that has transpired between the CROWN and I since 1982
To: <info@peymanaskari.ca>
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2024 at 12:06 PM
Subject: IMHO David McGuinty as our latest Minister of Public Safety MUST Review ALL that has transpired between the CROWN and I since 1982
To: <david.mcguinty@parl.gc.ca>, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, Katie.Telford <Katie.Telford@pmo-cpm.gc.ca>, Nathalie.G.Drouin <Nathalie.G.Drouin@pco-bcp.gc.ca>, pierre.poilievre <pierre.poilievre@parl.gc.ca>, jagmeet.singh <jagmeet.singh@parl.gc.ca>, cra-arc.media <cra-arc.media@cra-arc.gc.ca>, Diane.Lebouthillier <Diane.Lebouthillier@parl.gc.ca>, dominic.leblanc <dominic.leblanc@parl.gc.ca>, jan.jensen <jan.jensen@justice.gc.ca>, elizabeth.may <elizabeth.may@parl.gc.ca>, rob.moore <rob.moore@parl.gc.ca>, Jenica.Atwin <Jenica.Atwin@parl.gc.ca>, Nathaniel.Erskine-Smith <Nathaniel.Erskine-Smith@parl.gc.ca>, Ginette.PetitpasTaylor <Ginette.PetitpasTaylor@parl.gc.ca>, <Vincent.gircys@gmail.com>, Yves-Francois.Blanchet <Yves-Francois.Blanchet@parl.gc.ca>
Cc: robert.gauvin <robert.gauvin@gnb.ca>, <ps.ministerofpublicsafety-ministredelasecuritepublique.sp@ps-sp.gc.ca>, robert.mckee <robert.mckee@gnb.ca>, Mark.Blakely <Mark.Blakely@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, mcu <mcu@justice.gc.ca>, fin.minfinance-financemin.fin <fin.minfinance-financemin.fin@canada.ca>, Michael.Duheme <Michael.Duheme@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, Mike.Comeau <Mike.Comeau@gnb.ca>, Richard.Bragdon <Richard.Bragdon@parl.gc.ca>, <AWaugh@postmedia.com>, Jacques.Poitras <Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>, Marco.Mendicino <Marco.Mendicino@parl.gc.ca>, John.Williamson <John.Williamson@parl.gc.ca>, Alistair.MacGregor <Alistair.MacGregor@parl.gc.ca>, <michael.chong@parl.gc.ca>, <SpkrOff@parl.gc.ca>
Thursday, 19 December 2024
From: LeBlanc, Dominic - député <dominic.leblanc@parl.gc.ca>
Date: Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 1:52 PM
Subject: Automatic reply: Perhaps Higgy and Dr Desrosiers should review all the comments in CBC on June the 6th before they send the RCMP to bother me again EH Eddie Cornell?
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
(English follows)
Bonjour,
Nous
accusons réception de votre courriel adressé à L’honorable Dominic
LeBlanc, cp, cr, député de Beauséjour et nous vous en remercions.
Veuillez noter que nous recevons actuellement un volume élevé de correspondances. Veuillez prévoir un délai dans nos réponses.
En ce qui concerne les courriels relativement à des enjeux particuliers de nos commettants de Beauséjour, nous allons nous assurer de bien réviser votre message et un employé de notre bureau de circonscription communiquera avec vous si nécessaire. Si vous avez des questions ou vous désirez des clarifications, vous pouvez toujours communiquer avec notre bureau au numéro de téléphone suivant : (506) 533-5700.
Si vous écrivez à propos de sujets relatifs aux fonctions de sécurité publique du ministre LeBlanc, veuillez communiquer avec notre département de Sécurité publique à ps.ministerofpublicsafety-ministredelasecuritepublique.sp@ps-sp.gc.ca.
Pour toutes demandes des médias, veuillez contacter Kelly Ouimet à Kelly.Ouimet@iga-aig.gc.ca et Jean-Sébastien Comeau à Jean-Sebastien.Comeau@iga-aig.gc.ca.
Merci et bonne journée.
Bureau de L’hon. Dominic LeBlanc, cp, cr, député
Député de Beauséjour
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Hello,
We acknowledge receipt and thank you for your email addressed to the Honourable Dominic LeBlanc, P.C., K.C., M.P. for Beauséjour.
Please note that we are currently receiving a high volume of correspondence. This may mean a delay in our responding to you.
For emails related to specific issues from our constituents in Beauséjour, we will make sure to review your message and an employee from our constituency office will be in contact with you if necessary. If you have any questions or require clarification, you can always contact our office at the following phone number: (506) 533-5700.
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Thank you and have a good day.
Office of the Hon. Dominic LeBlanc, P.C., K.C., M.P.
Member of Parliament for Beauséjour
From: Moore, Rob - M.P. <Rob.Moore@parl.gc.ca>
Date: Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 1:52 PM
Subject: Automatic reply: Perhaps Higgy and Dr Desrosiers should review all the comments in CBC on June the 6th before they send the RCMP to bother me again EH Eddie Cornell?
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Thank you for contacting the Honourable Rob Moore, P.C., M.P. office. We appreciate the time you took to get in touch with our office.
If you did not already, please ensure to include your full contact details on your email and the appropriate staff will be able to action your request. We strive to ensure all constituent correspondence is responded to in a timely manner.
If your question or concern is time sensitive, please call our office: 506-832-4200.
Again, we thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts and concerns.
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
Office of the Honourable Rob Moore, P.C., M.P.
Member of Parliament for Fundy Royal
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2024/06/some-mps-helping-foreign-actors-like.html
From: LeBlanc, Dominic - député <dominic.leblanc@parl.gc.ca>
Date: Sun, Jun 9, 2024 at 4:39 PM
Subject: Automatic reply: The NSICOP Report causes me to wonder David McGuinty recalls our email exchange January 15 2016
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
(English follows)
Bonjour,
Nous
accusons réception de votre courriel adressé à L’honorable Dominic
LeBlanc, cp, cr, député de Beauséjour et nous vous en remercions.
Veuillez noter que nous recevons actuellement un volume élevé de correspondances. Veuillez prévoir un délai dans nos réponses.
En ce qui concerne les courriels relativement à des enjeux particuliers de nos commettants de Beauséjour, nous allons nous assurer de bien réviser votre message et un employé de notre bureau de circonscription communiquera avec vous si nécessaire. Si vous avez des questions ou vous désirez des clarifications, vous pouvez toujours communiquer avec notre bureau au numéro de téléphone suivant : (506) 533-5700.
Si vous écrivez à propos de sujets relatifs aux fonctions de sécurité publique du ministre LeBlanc, veuillez communiquer avec notre département de Sécurité publique à ps.ministerofpublicsafety-ministredelasecuritepublique.sp@ps-sp.gc.ca.
Pour toutes demandes des médias, veuillez contacter Kelly Ouimet à Kelly.Ouimet@iga-aig.gc.ca et Jean-Sébastien Comeau à Jean-Sebastien.Comeau@iga-aig.gc.ca.
Merci et bonne journée.
Bureau de L’hon. Dominic LeBlanc, cp, cr, député
Député de Beauséjour
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Hello,
We acknowledge receipt and thank you for your email addressed to the Honourable Dominic LeBlanc, P.C., K.C., M.P. for Beauséjour.
Please note that we are currently receiving a high volume of correspondence. This may mean a delay in our responding to you.
For emails related to specific issues from our constituents in Beauséjour, we will make sure to review your message and an employee from our constituency office will be in contact with you if necessary. If you have any questions or require clarification, you can always contact our office at the following phone number: (506) 533-5700.
If you are writing with respect to Minister LeBlanc's public safety duties, please direct your correspondence to our Public Safety department at ps.ministerofpublicsafety-ministredelasecuritepublique.sp@ps-sp.gc.ca.
Thank you and have a good day.
Office of the Hon. Dominic LeBlanc, P.C., K.C., M.P.
Member of Parliament for Beauséjour
Date: Sun, Jun 9, 2024 at 4:39 PM
Subject: Automatic reply: The NSICOP Report causes me to wonder David McGuinty recalls our email exchange January 15 2016
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Thanks very much for getting in touch with me!
This email is to acknowledge receipt of your message and to let you know that every incoming email is read and reviewed. A member of my Wellington-Halton Hills team will be in touch with you shortly if follow-up is required.
Due to the high volume of email correspondence, priority is given to responding to residents of Wellington-Halton Hills and to emails of a non-chain (or “forwards”) variety.
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Once again, thank you for your email.
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Date: Sun, Jun 9, 2024 at 4:39 PM
Subject: Automatic reply: The NSICOP Report causes me to wonder David McGuinty recalls our email exchange January 15 2016
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Sent from the office of Alistair MacGregor, MP
Thank you for your email and for taking the time to contact me and express your views.
This automatic response is to let you know that I have received your message. I regularly review all communications sent to me, however, due to the high volume of emails received I may not be able to respond personally to each one. In most cases, anonymous, cc'd, and forwarded items will not receive a response. Every effort will be made to reply to you as soon as possible.
If you are a resident of the Cowichan-Malahat-Langford constituency and your concerns are with a federal government ministry or agency, we would be happy to look into the matter for you and assist to the best of our ability. Please ensure that you have included your full name, address, postal code, telephone number, and the details of your situation so my office is able to assist you efficiently. If the matter is time-sensitive, please call my office directly at 1-866-609-9998. If we are unable to answer your call immediately, please leave a voicemail and we will return your call at our earliest opportunity.
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Thank you again for your email, and for taking the time to share your thoughts and concerns with me.
Sincerely,
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From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Jun 9, 2024 at 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: The NSICOP Report causes me to wonder David McGuinty recalls our email exchange January 15 2016
To: <david.mcguinty@parl.gc.ca>, dominic.leblanc <dominic.leblanc@parl.gc.ca>, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, Katie.Telford <Katie.Telford@pmo-cpm.gc.ca>, Mitton, Megan (LEG) <megan.mitton@gnb.ca>, rob.moore <rob.moore@parl.gc.ca>, pierre.poilievre <pierre.poilievre@parl.gc.ca>, jagmeet.singh <jagmeet.singh@parl.gc.ca>, Jason Lavigne <jason@yellowhead.vote>, Ezra <Ezra@therebel.media>, <DerekRants9595@gmail.com>, ragingdissident <ragingdissident@protonmail.com>, <michael.chong@parl.gc.ca>, Alistair.MacGregor <Alistair.MacGregor@parl.gc.ca>, <jennifer.oconnell@parl.gc.ca>
Cc: catharine.tunney <catharine.tunney@cbc.ca>, Michael.Duheme <Michael.Duheme@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, Michelle.Boutin <Michelle.Boutin@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, andrea.anderson-mason <andrea.anderson-mason@gnb.ca>, martin.gaudet <martin.gaudet@fredericton.ca>, Marco.Mendicino <Marco.Mendicino@parl.gc.ca>, Mark.Blakely <Mark.Blakely@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, Jason.Carrier <Jason.Carrier@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
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Date: Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 1:12 PM
Subject: Automatic reply: RE Ministers respond to performance audit reports of the Auditor General of Canada
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Le ministère des Finances Canada accuse réception de votre courriel. Nous vous assurons que vos commentaires sont les bienvenus.
Date: Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 1:12 PM
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From: Moore, Rob - M.P. <Rob.Moore@parl.gc.ca>
Date: Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 1:12 PM
Subject: Automatic reply: RE Ministers respond to performance audit reports of the Auditor General of Canada
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
From: Jensen, Jan (he; him | il; lui) <jan.jensen@justice.gc.ca>
Date: Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 1:12 PM
Subject: Réponse automatique - Automatic reply: RE Ministers respond to performance audit reports of the Auditor General of Canada
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I will be out of office until June 11, 2024 and I will not be checking email during this time. If your matter is time sensitive or requires immediate assistance, please contact my assistant at (782) 640 1066 or lorri.warner@justice.gc.ca
Date: Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 8:39 PM
Subject: Automatic reply: The NSICOP Report causes me to wonder David McGuinty recalls our email exchange January 15 2016
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Nous accusons réception de votre courriel adressé à L’honorable Dominic LeBlanc, cp, cr, député de Beauséjour et nous vous en remercions.
Député de Beauséjour
Member of Parliament for Beauséjour
---------- Original message ---------
From: Moore, Rob - M.P. <Rob.Moore@parl.gc.ca>
Date: Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 8:39 PM
Subject: Automatic reply: The NSICOP Report causes me to wonder David McGuinty recalls our email exchange January 15 2016
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 16:15:03 -0400
> Subject: Re: Re Federal Court Rule 46 (1) (a) (viii) as it applies to
> my complaint (File No: T-1557-15) Trust that I called and tried to
> talk a lot bureaucrats and politicians etc before sharing the hearings
> held on Dec 14th and Jan 11th
> To: david.mcguinty@parl.gc.ca
> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>
> Thank you for being ethical.
>
> Best Regards
> Dave
>
> On 1/15/16, david.mcguinty@parl.gc.ca <david.mcguinty@parl.gc.ca> wrote:
>> Received. Thank you.
>> ________________________________________
>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>> Sent: January 15, 2016 2:22 PM
>> To: McGuinty, David - M.P.; McKay, John - M.P.; Long, Wayne - Riding 1;
>> McKenna, Catherine - M.P.; McCrimmon, Karen - Riding 1; Ludwig, Karen -
>> Riding 2; karen.ludwig.nb; MacKinnon, Steven - Député
>> Cc: David Amos
>> Subject: Fwd: Re Federal Court Rule 46 (1) (a) (viii) as it applies to my
>> complaint (File No: T-1557-15) Trust that I called and tried to talk a
>> lot
>> bureaucrats and politicians etc before sharing the hearings held on Dec
>> 14th
>> and Jan 11th
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 16:29:14 -0400
>> Subject: Re Federal Court Rule 46 (1) (a) (viii) as it applies to my
>> complaint (File No: T-1557-15) Trust that I called and tried to talk a
>> lot bureaucrats and politicians etc before sharing the hearings held
>> on Dec 14th and Jan 11th
>> To: Rheal.Fortin.c1@parl.gc.ca, Murray.Rankin.c1@parl.gc.ca,
>> cmunroe@glgmlaw.com, nbd_cna@liberal.ca, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>,
>> ljulien@liberal.ca, pmilliken <pmilliken@cswan.com>, bdysart
>> <bdysart@smss.com>, bdysart <bdysart@stewartmckelvey.com>,
>> Braeden.Caley@vancouver.ca, robert.m.schuett@schuettlaw.com,
>> jda@nf.aibn.com, eclark@coxandpalmer.com, office@liberal.ns.ca,
>> president@lpco.ca, david@lpcm.ca, emerchant
>> <emerchant@merchantlaw.com>, info@fja-cmf.gc.ca, w.kinew@uwinnipeg.ca,
>> richard.tardif@cas-satj.gc.ca, "andrew.scheer"
>> <andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca>, john.wallace@sen.parl.gc.ca, MulcaT
>> <MulcaT@parl.gc.ca>, "rona.ambrose.A1" <rona.ambrose.A1@parl.gc.ca>,
>> RBauer <RBauer@perkinscoie.com>, sshimshak@paulweiss.com,
>> cspada@lswlaw.com, msmith <msmith@svlaw.com>, bginsberg
>> <bginsberg@pattonboggs.com>, "gregory.craig"
>> <gregory.craig@skadden.com>, "Gilles.Blinn"
>> <Gilles.Blinn@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "bob.paulson"
>> <bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "bob.rae"
>> <bob.rae@rogers.blackberry.net>, "Gilles.Moreau"
>> <Gilles.Moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Stephane.vaillancourt"
>> <Stephane.vaillancourt@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
>> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>,
>> Chantal.Carbonneau@cas-satj.gc.ca, daniel.gosselin@cas-satj.gc.ca,
>> assistance@liberal.ca, Karine Fortin <info@ndp.ca>, "stephen.harper"
>> <stephen.harper.a1@parl.gc.ca>, heather.bradley@parl.gc.ca
>>
>> Anyway at least nobody said I could not so enjoy.
>>
>> Judge Bell Dec 14th
>>
>> https://archive.org/details/BahHumbug
>>
>> Judge Southcott Jan 11th
>>
>> https://archive.org/details/Jan11th2015
>>
>>
>> Federal Court Rule
>>
>> 46 (1) Subject to the approval of the Governor in Council and subject
>> also to subsection (4), the rules committee may make general rules and
>> orders
>>
>> (a) for regulating the practice and procedure in the Federal Court of
>> Appeal and in the Federal Court, including, without restricting the
>> generality of the foregoing,
>>
>> (viii) rules governing the recording of proceedings in the course of a
>> hearing and the transcription of that recording,
>>
>>
>> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>>
>> OTTAWA, January 7, 2016
>>
>> In response to recent media reports regarding the application of Order
>> in Council PC 2015-1071, the Chief Administrator of the Courts
>> Administration Service (CAS) is releasing the following statement on
>> behalf of the Chief Justices of the Federal Court of Appeal, the
>> Federal Court, the Court Martial Appeal Court of Canada and the Tax
>> Court of Canada:
>>
>> The Chief Justices share the position conveyed today by the Chief
>> Justice of Canada. They are also encouraged by the federal
>> government’s response to their concerns about the impact of this Order
>> in Council on judicial independence and are expecting a satisfactory
>> resolution of the issue shortly.
>>
>> For further information contact:
>> Richard Tardif
>> Deputy Chief Administrator
>> Judicial and Registry Services
>> Courts Administration Service
>> richard.tardif@cas-satj.gc.ca
>> Tel: 613-943-3458
>>
>> http://goc411.ca/Employees/IndexByDepartment/58
>>
>> Daniel Gosselin
>> Chief Administrator:
>> Courts Administration Service
>> Principal Office
>> 90 Sparks St.
>> Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0H9
>> Phone: 613-996-4778
>> Fax: 613-941-6197
>> Email: daniel.gosselin@cas-satj.gc.ca
>>
>> The clerks above did not have the sand to call me back but the lawyer
>> below certainly did. I hung up on her the instant she told me
>> everybody was too busy
>> to bother talking to me.
>>
>> http://goc411.ca/60585/Lise-Henrie
>>
>> Lise Henrie
>> Executive Directer and General Counsel
>> 613-943-5484
>>
>>
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Latest email to the Speaker Geoff Regan and Senator Joe Day
---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 08:23:37 -0400
Subject: Re: Attn Speaker Geoff Regan and Senator Joe Day I plan to file this email and its attachments as exhibits to support a motion within the Federal Court of Appeal
To: stephane.dion@international.gc.ca, lalanthier@hotmail.com, tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca, geoff@geoffregan.ca, dayja@sen.parl.gc.ca, "heather.bradley" <heather.bradley@parl.gc.ca>, SpkrOff@parl.gc.ca, geoff.regan@parl.gc.ca, geoff.regan.a1@parl.gc.ca, cmunroe@glgmlaw.com, john.wallace@sen.parl.gc.ca, rona.ambrose.A1@parl.gc.ca, david.mcguinty@parl.gc.ca, Michael.Cooper@parl.gc.ca, MP@michaelcoopermp.ca, dions1@parl.gc.ca, steve.murphy@ctv.ca, david@lutz.nb.ca, w.kinew@uwinnipeg.ca, Chantal.Carbonneau@cas-satj.gc.ca, daniel.gosselin@cas-satj.gc.ca, lise.henrie@cas-satj.gc.ca, gopublic@cbc.ca, investigations@cbc.ca, sylvie.gadoury@radio-canada.ca, Matt.DeCourcey@parl.gc.ca, mathew@mathewingram.com, andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca, Denis.Paradis@parl.gc.ca, Yasmin.Ratansi@parl.gc.ca, bruce.stanton@parl.gc.ca, speakers.office@parliament.govt.nz, justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca, MulcaT@parl.gc.ca, stephen.harper@parl.gc.ca, richard.tardif@cas-satj.gc.ca, info@gg.ca, william.brooks@fja-cmf.gc.ca, Andrew.Treusch@cra-arc.gc.ca, Andrew.Baumberg@cas-satj.gc.ca, information@fca-caf.gc.ca, tfarrow@osgoode.yorku.ca, naylwin@cfcj-fcjc.org, Gerald.Butts@pmo-cpm.gc.ca, Katie.Telford@pmo-cpm.gc.ca, Cameron.Ahmad@pmo-cpm.gc.ca, "Diane.Lebouthillier" <Diane.Lebouthillier@cra-arc.gc.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, "Michael.Wernick" <Michael.Wernick@pco-bcp.gc.ca>, pmilliken <pmilliken@cswan.com>, "Jody.Wilson-Raybould.a1" <Jody.Wilson-Raybould.a1@parl.gc.ca>, mcu <mcu@justice.gc.ca>, "bill.pentney" <bill.pentney@justice.gc.ca>, "david.hansen" <david.hansen@justice.gc.ca>, "jan.jensen" <jan.jensen@justice.gc.ca>, "jill.chisholm" <jill.chisholm@justice.gc.ca>
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From: justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:07:51 +0000
Subject: Réponse automatique : Attn Speaker Geoff Regan and Senator
Joe Day I plan to file this email and its attachments as exhibits to
support a motion within the Federal Court of Appeal
To: motomaniac333@gmail.com
Veuillez noter que j'ai changé de courriel. Vous pouvez me rejoindre à
lalanthier@hotmail.com
Pour rejoindre le bureau de M. Trudeau veuillez envoyer un courriel à
tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
Please note that I changed email address, you can reach me at
lalanthier@hotmail.com
To reach the office of Mr. Trudeau please send an email to
tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
Thank you,
Merci ,
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From: Yasmin.Ratansi@parl.gc.ca
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:07:51 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Attn Speaker Geoff Regan and Senator Joe Day
I plan to file this email and its attachments as exhibits to support a
motion within the Federal Court of Appeal
To: motomaniac333@gmail.com
Thank you for contacting our office via email. Please note that we
give first priority to our constituents. As such, if you have not
done so, please provide your name, address, postal code and telephone
number. We will respond to you in a timely fashion, depending on the
complexity of the matter.
Patricia LeFebour, Constituency Assistant to Yasmin Ratansi, Member of
Parliament - Don Valley East
yasmin.ratansi@parl.gc.ca<mailto:yasmin.ratansi@parl.gc.ca>
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From: stephane.dion.c1@parl.gc.ca
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:07:50 +0000
Subject: Accusé de réception / Acknowledgement receipt
To: motomaniac333@gmail.com
-English Follows -
Bonjour,
Nous vous remercions d’avoir contacté le bureau de l’honorable
Stéphane Dion. Par le présent courriel, nous confirmons la bonne
réception de votre correspondance.
Nous vous prions de prendre note que votre courriel sera directement
transmis au Ministère des Affaires mondiales si celui-ci traite d’une
question relative au rôle du Ministre des Affaires étrangères. Pour
toute correspondance future adressée au Ministre des Affaires
étrangères, nous vous prions de bien vouloir écrire directement à
stephane.dion@international.gc.ca .
Salutations distinguées,
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Député de Saint-Laurent
***
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MP for Saint-Laurent
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From: Info <Info@gg.ca>
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:07:32 +0000
Subject: Auto Response / Réponse automatique
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Thank you for writing to the Office of the Secretary to the Governor
General. We appreciate hearing your views and suggestions. Responses
to specific inquiries can be expected within three weeks. Please note
that general comments and opinions may not receive a response.
*****
Nous vous remercions d'avoir écrit au Bureau du secrétaire du
gouverneur général. Nous apprécions votre point de vue et vos
suggestions. Il faut prévoir trois semaines pour une réponse à une
demande précise. Veuillez noter qu’il n’y a pas nécessairement de
suivi pour les opinions et les commentaires généraux qui sont envoyés.
On 3/22/16, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
> Whereas you nor anyone else will respond to my concerns about the
> letter you sent me byway of email on Jan12th immediately after I had
> encountered the recenty appointed Judge Richard Southcott from Halifax
> in Federal Court on Jan11th, I must presume that my allegations
> against you people are correct.
>
> I see no need to be redundant at this time. I will expand on my
> allegations against the CROWN during the various motions and the
> upcoming hearings of my matter now before the Federal Court of Appeal.
> If anyone wishes to review the text of my appeal it can be found on
> the Internet in the following link.
>
> http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2016/02/federal-court-of-appeal-court-file-no.html
>
> Please note that I freely admit that I was wrong about the address of
> Southcott's old law firm. It is in fact located across the street from
> the Federal Court in Fredericton.
>
> Veritas Vincit
> David Raymond Amos
> 902 800 0369
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: SpkrOff@parl.gc.ca
> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 11:51 AM
> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
> Subject: wondering if barred from all parliamentary properties in Canada
>
> Dear Mr. Amos:
>
> Please find attached a letter signed from the Speaker of the House of
> Commons in response to your electronic message dated December 11,
> 2015.
>
> Nicole Beaudin
>
> Correspondence and Finance Officer, Speaker's Office/
>
> Agent des finances et de la correspondance, La Présidence
>
> Room 328-N, Centre Block/Pièce 328-N édifice du Centre
>
> Ottawa, ON K1A 0A6
>
> Tel.: 613-996-0630
>
> http://geoffregan.ca/contact/
>
> Hill Office:
> Room 658, Confederation Building
> House of Commons
> Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0A6
>
> Phone: (613) 996-3085
> Fax: (613) 996-6988
>
> E-mail: geoff.regan@parl.gc.ca
>
> Constituency Office:
>
> 1496 Bedford Highway, Suite 222
> Bedford, Nova Scotia B4A 1E5
>
> Phone: (902) 426-2217
> Fax: (902) 426-8339
> E-mail: geoff@geoffregan.ca
>
> Speaker’s Office:
> Please direct correspondence for the Speaker of the House of Commons to:
>
> E-mail: SpkrOff@parl.gc.ca
>
> Heather Bradley Director of Communications
> Office of the Speaker of the House of Commons
> Tel: 613-992-5042
>
>
> For the Public Record once AGAIN I did NOT email anyone between Dec
> 7th and Dec 17th 2015
>
> I tried to explain to your people on the phone today but they didn't
> want to hear it but whereas I was not near the Internet for a period
> of ten days I could not email anyone even if I wished to correct?
>
> However I must inform you that before I dropped out of sight for a
> while then appeared in Federal Court on the December the 14th I did
> post my opinions of the election of the latest Speaker of the the
> House within the CBC domain both BEFORE and after YOU Geof Regan won
> the position of speaking on behalf of the Queen.
>
> Clearly Canada's latest Speaker ignored me for nearly 12 years until I
> mentioned YOU again in Federal Court on Dec 14th and Jan11th. Then YOU
> were not long sending me the letter hereto attached the very next day
> yet it was backdated to the day after I talked the lawyer Craig
> Munroe. Methinks you lawyer dudes held back the letter until you knew
> how I made out with your old lawyer buddy from Halifax Judge Southcott
> Nesy Pas?
>
> None of you can't deny that ome of my statements still about YOUR
> election as Speaker still exist within the CBC webpage today and
> clearly I pointed to my appearance on Rogers TV.EH?
>
> Please notice CBC deleted my first comment but when someone attacked a
> comment that no longer was in the PUBLC view CBC allowed my next
> comments to remain for over two months and counting.
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/parliament-opens-speaker-election-1.3348640
>
> Geoff Regan elected House Speaker as 42nd Parliament opens
> MPs voted in a secret ballot, ranking the candidates by order of preference
>
> By Susana Mas, CBC News Posted: Dec 03, 2015 10:07 AM ET Last Updated:
> Dec 03, 2015 10:01 PM ET
>
>
> David Amos
> Content disabled.
>
> @athooya Trust that Stevey Boy Harper and his old buddy Mr Mulcair got
> the same email I sent the Boyz and Girlz in Red Coats as I reminded
> the seasoned Librano lawyers Denis Paradis and Geoff Regan dicing with
> Yasmin Ratansi and Brucy Stanton for the Speaker's chair of my lawsuit
> in Federal Court.
>
> Please enjoy
>
> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/portal/page/portal/fc_cf_en/East_List
>
> Fredericton December 14, 2015
>
> T-1557-15
> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS v. HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
> (M-English)
> Others - Crown (v. Queen) [Actions]
>
> http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/
>
> http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2014/05/yo-birgitta-who-is-more-of-crook-julian.html
>
> While they are voting for the record I predict Denis Paradis will win
> the chair merely because he is from Quebec and Upper Canada has always
> rules the roost when it comes to Libranos
>
> My record has not been bad in that regard ask the mean old Librano
> talkshow host Tommy Boy Young if ya dare EH Chucky Leblanc
>
> Pray tell does anyone remember this conversation heard all over the
> Maritimes just before Millikin got the job again and Bernie Lord and
> Shawny Baby Graham followed my advice and whipped their followers into
> picking the newly Independent Tanker to become a speaker in order to
> shut him up?
>
> Too Too funny indeed.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ca6Egqghmw&index=46&list=UUy8EcN1vBqTMe8fjF6mKD6g
>
> or if you wish to hear more
>
> https://archive.org/details/RogersTalkshowBuffoons
>
> 2 months ago 1 Like
>
> MANY MORE COMMENTS AND THEN ONCE REGAN WAS ELECTED
>
> Tenrager
> @David Amos Your prediction was wrong, the rest is gibberish.
> 2 months ago 1 Like
>
>
> David Amos
> @Tenrager ROUND TWO If it was gibberish WHY did the CROWN Corp known
> as CBC delete it ???
>
> FYI Here is what I sent when I was wrong BTW You and CBC can bet that
> I saved this webpage as well. N'esy Pas?
>
> Trust that I don't mind being wrong about the choice of Speaker after
> listening to the Senate reform plans I say WOW just like Geoff Regan
> did when he commented that he was the first Speaker from the Maritimes
> in nearly 100 years
>
> Cc: Denis.Paradis@parl.gc.ca, Yasmin.Ratansi@parl.gc.ca,
> bruce.stanton@parl.gc.ca, geoff@geoffregan.ca, geoff.regan@parl.gc.ca,
> speakers.office@parliament.govt.nz, justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca,
> MulcaT@parl.gc.ca, stephen.harper@parl.gc.ca,
> andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca, etc
>
> Now everybody should view the three pdf files hereto attached. Clearly
> my letters and many supporting documents were answered. More
> importantly the Librano lawyer Joe Day should not deny that the brand
> new Speaker Geoff Regan got the same pile of documents in 2004 while
> he oversaw the Arar Inquiry on behalf of his old lawyer buddy Irwin
> Cotler CORRECT?
>
> Now I get to ask the important question to the brand new Speaker
> before I file my next pile of documents in Federal Court (which will
> obviously include the three attachments)
>
> So Mr Speaker Geoff Regan am I sill barred from all Parliamentary
> Properties in Canada or am I not???
>
> Veritas Vincit
> David Raymond Amos
> 902 800 0369
>
> Fundy Royal, New Brunswick Debate – Federal Elections 2015 - The Local
> Campaign, Rogers TV
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cFOKT6TlSE
>
> Me and Louis Riel versus the RCMP
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAoN09eaxuo
>
> The dog in blue coat versus Gandalf
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyNx6QEHqRA
> 2 months ago 1 Like
>
> Aron Axes
> @athooya He's got a soar butt.
> 2 months ago 0 Likes
>
> David Amos
> HEY @Tenrager READ LINK THIS IF YOU DARE
>
> http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/2526023-DAMOSIntegrity-yea-right.-txt.pdf
>
> Trust that Stevey Boy Harper and his old buddy Mr Mulcair got the same
> email I sent the Boyz and Girlz in Red Coats as I reminded the
> seasoned Librano lawyers Denis Paradis and Geoff Regan dicing with
> Yasmin Ratansi and Brucy Stanton for the Speaker's chair of my lawsuit
> in Federal Court.
>
> Please enjoy
>
> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/portal/page/portal/fc_cf_en/East_List
>
> Fredericton December 14, 2015
>
> T-1557-15
> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS v. HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
> (M-English)
> Others - Crown (v. Queen) [Actions]
>
> http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/
>
> http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2014/05/yo-birgitta-who-is-more-of-crook-julian.html
>
> While they are voting for the record I predict Denis Paradis will win
> the chair merely because he is from Quebec and Upper Canada has always
> rules the roost when it comes to Libranos
>
> My record has not been bad in that regard ask the mean old Librano
> talkshow host Tommy Boy Young if ya dare EH Chucky Leblanc
>
> Pray tell does anyone remember this conversation heard all over the
> Maritimes just before Millikin got the job again and Bernie Lord and
> Shawny Baby Graham followed my advice and whipped their followers into
> picking the newly Independent Tanker to become a speaker in order to
> shut him up?
>
> Too Too funny indeed.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ca6Egqghmw&index=46&list=UUy8EcN1vBqTMe8fjF6mKD6g
>
> or if you wish to hear more
>
> https://archive.org/details/RogersTalkshowBuffoons
> 2 months ago 1 Like
>
>
> ETC ETC ETC AND THE REST IS PARLIAMENTARY HISTORY N'ESY PAS MR TRUDEAU?
>
> You can bet dimes to dollars that I save ALL the digital evidence of
> all that I say and do just like my debate on Rogers TV. More
> importantly I save all that is published about my Clan and I as well.
>
> Here are two new blogs of the evil Zionist Mr Baconfat for his buddies
> in the RCMP and the Canadian Forces to enjoy.
>
> http://eateshite.blogspot.ca/
>
> http://sunrayzulu.blogspot.ca/
>
> Please notice Mr Baconfat and his blogging buddies Chucky Leblanc,
> Glen Canning and Patty Baby Doran got this email as well and obviously
> their heros within Frank Magazine have been mentioning Stevey Boy
> Murphy and his ATV cohort Kayla Hounsell a lot lately EH?
>
> Veritas Vincit
> David Raymond Amos
> 902 800 0369
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: ethics@ic.gc.ca ; gisele.osborne@gnb.ca ; dayja@sen.parl.gc.ca ;
> Pelletier, Raymond F. ; zedp@parl.gc.ca ; rmooremp@nb.sympatico.ca ;
> savoya2@parl.gc.ca ; thompg@nb.sympatico.ca ;
> john_kerry@kerry.senate.gov ; martib@sen.parl.gc.ca ;
> dougchristielaw@shaw.ca ; Mayor@ci.boston.ma.us ;
> Stephen.Murphy@ci.boston.ma.us ; geline.williams@state.ma.us ; Brian
> Mulcahy ; madanr@ojp.usdoj.gov ; strategis@ic.gc.ca ;
> wilson.howie@ic.gc.ca ; cbisson@mccarthy.ca ; lynn.morrison@oico.on.ca
> Cc: Governor Office ; Governor.Rell@po.state.ct.us ;
> smay@pattersonpalmer.ca ; johnduggan@legalaid.nf.ca ;
> brenda.boyd@RCMP-GRC.gc.ca ; McLellan.A@parl.gc.ca ; david@lutz.nb.ca
> ; cynthia.merlini@dfait-maeci.gc.ca ; ethics@harvard.edu ;
> INFO7@elections.ca ; inquiry.admin@bellnet.ca ; cotlei@parl.gc.ca ;
> Robert.Creedon@state.ma.us ; Brian.A.Joyce@state.ma.us ;
> Jack.Hart@state.ma.us ; Rep.WalterTimilty@hou.state.ma.us ;
> Rep.AStephenTobin@hou.state.ma.us ; Dianne.Wilkerson@state.ma.us ;
> Daphne.Thompson@gems2.gov.bc.ca ; coulter.osborne@oico.on.ca ;
> WayneGreen@mail.gov.nl.ca ; gallanpm@gov.ns.ca ;
> anrobins@vac-acc.gc.ca ; cei@nbnet.nb.ca ; kbar@nbnet.nb.ca ; Byron
> Prior
> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 12:52 PM
> Subject: Small wonder the lady speaking for Bernard Shapiro believed me
>
> . Senator Joe Day should have given him my material a long long time
> ago. I thought Howie Wilson still had the job because everything was
> kinda murky within Strategis at the time and nobody would respond to
> me. Since my affairs in the USA are beginning to develop in a positive
> direction, now Joe Day and the others are just starting to pretend
> that they are ethical? Not on my watch. I have yet to find out who the
> hell the Ethics Counselor is for the Senate but rest assured I will
> find out and forward him all that I will send to you. Good luck with
> your conscience folks. Perhaps someone should call me soon. 506
> 434-1379
>
> Friday the 13th of August, 2004
>
> Senator Joseph A. Day
> 14 Everett St.
> Hampton, NB
>
> Prime Minister, Paul Martin
> 80 Wellington Street
> Ottawa, ON. K1A 0A2
>
> Eva Plunkett Inspector General (CSIS)
> 340 Laurier Avenue West
> Ottawa, ON. K1A 0P8
>
> Ethics Counselor, Howard Wilson
> 66 Slater St., 22nd Floor
> Ottawa, ON. K1A 0C9
>
> Geoff Reagan c/o Irwin Cotler,
> 900 Justice Building
> Ottawa, ON. K1A 0A6
>
> Philippe Rabot
> RCMP External Review Committee
> P.O. Box 1159, Station B
> Ottawa, ON. K1P 5R2
>
> RE: Corruption
>
> Hey Joe,
>
> The fact that you said I was not worth voting for is no matter to me.
> I just wish my fellow Canadians had the right to vote you out of your
> job. That is one thing I agree with Mr. Lord about. To me you are just
> another lawyer who couldn’t get elected so you were politically
> appointed to a high government position for the benefit of Irving
> interests. Now that you are in public service not only must you obey
> the Code of Conduct of your chosen profession, you must act ethically
> as a well paid federal employee and speak for the public good. Forget
> your former employer’s interests and do your job.
>
> It is time to check the work of many high officials and mine as well.
> I demand that you study of the enclosed material then forward it all
> to the Prime Minister Paul Martin. Ask him to forward copies of it all
> to the other above named government employees and to the Arar
> Commission in particular. I can easily prove prior contact to all the
> above named persons or their offices and I believe they should be
> expecting to see this stuff. The CD of the copy of wiretap tape
> numbered 139 is served upon you as an officer of the court in
> confidence in order that it may be properly investigated. I have given
> you many more documents than the ones I will mention in the following
> paragraphs. I will send a copy of this letter to many people as a
> double check on your ethics.
>
> One of the documents of foremost importance to me is a recent letter
> Attorney General Brad Green sent to me dated August 3rd. It is
> attached to the letter and all the other material I had delivered to
> Bernard Lord and Frank McKenna just after Canada Day. I deem the
> aforesaid letter to be so important because he is the first Canadian
> public servant in any office to even admit knowledge my concerns and
> allegations in two months of waiting for a proper response. His
> position in public service and his answer forever prove just how bad
> things really are in Canada and the USA. I am not sorry for the delay
> in providing you with this material as I planned and stated within the
> enclosed email. If you had wanted it, you would have returned my calls
> or answered my email.
>
> I had spoken to many people about my concerns as I ran for Parliament.
> I made certain that the proper authorities knew of my allegations the
> instant I was on Canadian soil. If our government was on the up and
> up, someone should have sent the cops around to pick this stuff up or
> at least ask me a few questions a long time ago. I cannot wait any
> longer for my country to act properly in my defense. The Yankees now
> want me in court.
>
> The recent letter from Brad Green and the actions of some other bad
> actors in Fredericton and the USA gave me cause to pause, rethink and
> rewrite a bunch of stuff. One would think that Henrick Tonning, the
> first judge that Green had ever appointed or the unnamed duty counsel
> in court on the first day of Brad’s new plan to defend the rights of
> the people would have informed him that I was very pissed off and
> still in New Brunswick. The Sheriff who refused to identify himself in
> Henrik’s court that day was more than willing to take me away and
> under his jurisdiction. What province writes the Sheriff’s paycheck?
> Even the local rumormill had enough time to generate enough gossip
> from July 29th to August 3rd for Brad Green to be adequately informed
> before he wrote such a ridiculous letter to me. Clearly Brad paid no
> heed my fair warning to lawyers about making one false move. Maybe he
> should call the former Attorney General in New Hampshire and ask Peter
> Heed why he paid no heed to me. Now I will prove to both Mr Heed and
> Brad Green that I wasn’t joking and that I am well within the
> jurisdiction of law enforcement in both New Brunswick and New
> Hampshire.
>
> If the Fredericton City Police arrest me as I approach the legislature
> one day very soon, Brad Green, Bruce Noble and I will have lots to
> argue about in years to come in many courts. I will be filing a
> complaint against them and several others with the Law Society anyway.
> I am looking to hire an ethical lawyer to sue the bastards long before
> the Law Society gets around to figuring out how to ignore my
> allegations. What would you do if you were I? Do you know an ethical
> lawyer that I can discuss this with? Or would I fare better if I acted
> ethically in a Pro Se fashion?
>
> My encounter with the Ombudsman, Bernard Richard proved much to me
> about NB politicians. I didn’t believe what he said about Wayne
> Steeves the second he mentioned Connie Fogal. He tried so hard to
> argue about jurisdiction that he maintained Rule One of the Code of
> Professional Conduct of the New Brunswick Law Society is not about
> integrity but jurisdiction. No lawyer is that dumb and the last thing
> I would want is such a man to speak for me. So I promptly told him I
> would see him in court and ended our conversation. He was obviously
> arguing against me for the benefit of Brad Green rather than making a
> sincere and ethical effort to listen to me and address my concerns to
> the powers that be on my behalf. Richard likely has few Liberal
> friends to chum with. For all I know he may have just got back from
> Larry’s Gulch so I allowed him to continue on the fishing expedition
> byway of email. For his information just in case he is that dumb, I
> brought up the subject of integrity so he would stop arguing
> jurisdiction and act more ethically and diligently as a lawyer. When
> he continued, I quit talking and sought proof of contact. Lawyers must
> maintain their integrity no matter the jurisdiction or issue.
>
> I can easily refute the jurisdictional argument of both Mr. Richard
> and Brad Green. I am used to that legal dodge. Thirty-three years ago
> a RCMP officer charged me with speeding by within the city limits of
> Fredericton. When I questioned his jurisdiction the Crown was quick to
> inform me that the RCMP have jurisdiction over everyone everywhere in
> Canada. If I were to unbuckle my seat belt in defiance of a NB law as
> I drove to Hampton to serve this material upon a lawyer employed as a
> Senator in the federal government, in what court would I appear? What
> if I served this material upon the cop that had the authority stop me?
> If the matter was heard in Hampton or Sussex Provincial Court
> shouldn’t Judge Henrik Tonning immediately recuse himself because of
> his words to me in court on July 29th. Would I not have the right to
> make a federal case out of what began as a seat belt offense and
> change the jurisdiction to the USA?
>
> A far better example is what happened on June 24th. A man who claimed
> represent the Crown as the Sergeant at Arms in the New Brunswick
> legislature claimed that he and the Fredericton PD had jurisdiction
> over me and the right to throw me out of the public building. However
> when I tried to give them this stuff as the Deputy Prime Minister Anne
> McLellan and Attorney General Brad Green have both suggested, they
> refused. What right did they have to do so? Should I file a complaint
> against the Crown in the USA? I was thrown out of a building in NB.
> Who defends the Crown if not Green?
>
> Senator Day, make certain that Jack Hooper of CSIS sends someone to
> see the priest, Bill Elliott and get the stuff I gave to him the night
> of his debate on June 21st. Everybody in the churchyard watched that
> old man holler at me as I gave it to him. Now Mr. Waldman can listen
> to what Mr. Harper was harping about on June 22nd on the CBC, As I
> told the priest there were three original wiretap tapes within that
> envelope I gave him. The tapes are important evidence for the Arar
> Commission. If nothing else their mere existence proves how far the
> FEDS in two countries will go to cover things up. Let me know if the
> priest denies he got them or Hooper won’t give them up, I have several
> more hidden in Canada that the Arar Commission can have. Hooper can
> hoop and holler about National Security all he wants. I must protect
> my ass if he won’t, If you look at the photo I have provided, you will
> see me talking to a RCMP officer that was guarding Harper in Sussex on
> June 19th. Now you know what I was talking about to him. What I want
> to know is that cop’s name. Harper wasn’t long spilling the beans to
> his political advantage on CBC but his lawyers weren’t long shutting
> him up on June 24th after Waldman demanded that he testify at the
> Inquiry. Why is that?
>
> Waldman should have known of me if Arar’s lawyers at CCR in the USA
> had kept him properly informed. Rest assured that I did as soon as I
> became aware of him. During our conversation I know I said enough for
> him to check my words. His silence spoke volumes.
>
> Mr. Arar’s lawyers had no fear of filing a complaint against Ashcroft
> and the others in the USA after they received my stuff last November.
> I see no further progress with that suit since it was filed last
> January. Why have they ignored me? Did they make a deal and settle?
> Why have they fallen so silent within the inquiry in Canada?
>
> If you don’t believe me about what Mr. Harper knows, call Arthur
> Hamilton and ask him about the little talk we had about this a little
> while ago. Mr. Hamilton can never say he doesn’t know because I saved
> his voicemail to me. I have no doubt that he has had a long talk with
> our new MP Rob Moore by now. Why are they so silent?
>
> I have many questions to ask Geoff Regan and Anne McLellan about the
> Arar Commission. Geoff has no time to return my call but lots of time
> to golf with Clinton and McKenna. I demand to know if the many
> documents that caused the delay in the inquiry were mine. If not, why
> not? I did do as Anne McLellan suggested and gave this stuff to both
> Customs and Immigration the instant I landed in Canadian jurisdiction.
> If I am not called to testify, I will never understand. I did manage
> to talk to Veena Verma and she had no answers for me only arguments
> about jurisdiction as usual.
>
> Your friend, Mr. Zed can never say he don’t know because as you can
> see I served his law office this stuff on June 25th the day before he
> and John Herron greeted Paul Martin at the airport. After your review
> of this stuff you must confess it is obvious to all why Paul Zed and
> his friend Frank McKenna have been struck so dumb. Paul Zed was
> elected to speak for that politically minded priest amongst others,
> correct? Perhaps after they voted according to their conscience they
> should act according to it as well.
>
> I know that I have proved what everybody knows. The word of a lawyer
> is worthless. Peter MacKay also proved that to all the true
> Progressive Conservatives in Canada. The fact that another lawyer,
> John Crosbie advised the former Alliance party on what to say is too
> funny and sad for the words of this letter. One reason I came home and
> ran for Parliament is to sooth my own soul because I found Mr. Harper
> and his buddies to be a truly dangerous bunch of characters. Crosbie
> did too for awhile anyway. Ain’t it funny how he now sings a different
> tune? There is no doubt that the old lawyer Paul Martin is a
> monumental a crook. The boat in Sidney proved that to me two days
> after the election. He can play well within Mulroney’s league. It was
> truly sad that so many Canadians were compelled to vote for Martin
> simply because they were too scared that Harper may lead our country
> down a garden path and under an evil Bush.
>
> Perhaps the NDP should check my work closely and then help me expose
> all the crooks in both the Liberal and Conservative camps. I will give
> this stuff to their local lawyer leader Ms. Weir. Maybe it is time for
> the NDP to shine for the benefit of all Canadians. Even though the NDP
> have only 19 seats in Parliament I believe they have the power to
> inspire a non-confidence vote and cause another election. I think the
> NDP politicians should think about the following statement a long time
> then review how they made out in the last election. I did say at the
> Moss Glen debate that the NDP party was the best spot to place a vote.
> However NDP people I know argued with me saying that if they did that
> their vote would be wasted and Harper might get in, so they must vote
> out of fear for a Liberal. Therefore I fall back on what I had said
> during the Hampton debate in that every ballot should have one more
> line on it "None of the above" then I am certain many more Canadians
> would exercise their right to vote. Many did agree.
>
> Senator Day I did come across your wife in the Canada Elections office
> as she worked in support of Herron. Please don’t deny the fact that
> the person seated beside your wife in Hampton laughed and applauded at
> many of my remarks, Everybody heard what I said to Herron in front of
> Rob Moore about suing him. Herron is foolish if he thought I was
> kidding. Herron is a layman with few political friends. I spoke to him
> very openly and honestly after the debate in Moss Glen. It should be
> interesting to see whom he and Rob Moore manage to hire for lawyers to
> defend them from my actions. I look forward to meeting a judge but I
> am not certain I would be allowed a jury of my peers. Lawyers do have
> an unfair stranglehold on Canadian justice. As you check my work, you
> should see that I am out to shame all lawyers and the political ones
> in particular. None of this would have been necessary if just one
> lawyer had upheld their oath or one public servant had blown the
> whistle. Why is not the question. The answer is Filthy Lucre.
>
> Today is Friday the 13th. I am expected to stand in court in Boston
> and argue allegations of criminal harassment made against me by a
> lawyer who has practiced crimes against me. Clearly I am not making an
> appearance. My kids and I will remain in this jurisdiction. I suspect
> foul play and that it is a ploy to make me return to the USA. I have
> little doubt that agents of the DHS would never allow me to appear in
> that court. I notified everyone down in Boston that I look forward to
> trial. Monday will tell the tale.
>
> In closing I must say I considered myself a raging success to finally
> break surface in the media and in an Irving owned newspaper of all
> places. A former Irving lawyer needs no explanation as to the reason
> for my joy. That said, let’s see if I can make the Internet work for
> me in a grassroots sort of way. The Irvings are a little behind the
> times in that regard. Although I do not wear a blue coat, I did give
> the folks in Fundy one last chance to vote for a PC (Pissed off
> Candidate) and I tried to do it in a fun fashion so that my efforts
> would be remembered. Read the Kings County Record again to check my
> words. As I watch the boob tube, I find the most honest reporting of
> the political circus in America can be found on the Canadian comedy
> shows. The stuff on Barack Obama, Ralph Nader, Melanie Sloan and the
> Clintons should be pretty funny to you as well as you read the
> documents I have provided. Now all I can say is Hooray for Canada and
> thanks to the folks in Fundy that did vote for me. I am glad that at
> least one percent understood and agreed with me. Quite likely not one
> of them was a lawyer. Now I only need one lawyer in the right place in
> government to do the right thing and things will change for the
> better. Until that happens I will continue torturing lawyers with
> dilemmas that a simple application of ethics could easily solve. It is
> just a matter of time before one will break rank with the crooks and
> become a truly honourable hero for the common man. As I said in my
> first political speech I am a son of the Keith Clan whose roots can be
> found in Fundy. Although I have separated myself from that Clan and
> founded my own in order to declare a Blood Feud in my own name, I will
> always honour from whence I came. I simply don’t care what lawyers or
> politicians think of me Although I have no religion, I have faith in
> my forefather’s motto "Veritas Vincit".
>
> So what say you now, Senator Joe Day? Are you with me or against me?
> Ignoring me just won’t do. Please send your answer to the following
> address just as Brad Green did. I don’t know where I will be from day
> to day these days. Like it or not you are all now witnesses to my sad
> complaints. I demand an answer from you in writing even if it is to
> refuse this demand to do your job. Your friend the Yankee lawyer,
> David Lutz can turn his back on me then sneak away and try to hide but
> you are a Canadian public servant now. You must answer me in a timely
> fashion. I am part of the Canadian Public and a citizen that came to
> your office in the constituency that I have been hanging my hat for
> over two months. I demand assistance from the Senator appointed to
> watch over us and expect you to act with the integrity that is
> mandated by your license to practice law for a fee. Trust me, I am
> wise to the delaying and denying game. Forget trying to argue
> jurisdiction. I am here. What do you think? Should I run for Senator
> if Lord manages to call an election for one? I can be reached by local
> phone # 506 434-1379 but everything I say from here on out I want
> recorded in the Public Record because it appears that lawyers think I
> must sue the Queen in the USA. Do you think she will get pissed? The
> reason question is can she afford the relief. Check the bottom line of
> my first two complaints. Anne McLellan has made the Crown a
> conspirator against me. Methinks she owes me three times the loss. Now
> we all know the reason for the cover up. Too many lawyer/politicians
> in Boston assisted the lawyer, Charles J. Kickham Jr. assist the ex
> FBI agent William J. Kickham in his crimes against my Clan.
>
> If any of the above named parties don’t like anything I have stated,
> Please sue me. I dare ya. I promise I will not file any sort of motion
> to dismiss the matter but I will demand a jury. I will call many
> witnesses in my defense. I think the first one would be Mr. Harper.
> Wouldn’t it be fun if he was a hostile one?
>
> Cya’ll in Court :)
>
> David R. Amos
> 153 Alvin Ave.
> Milton, MA. 02186
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 16:15:03 -0400
> Subject: Re: Re Federal Court Rule 46 (1) (a) (viii) as it applies to
> my complaint (File No: T-1557-15) Trust that I called and tried to
> talk a lot bureaucrats and politicians etc before sharing the hearings
> held on Dec 14th and Jan 11th
> To: david.mcguinty@parl.gc.ca
> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>
> Thank you for being ethical.
>
> Best Regards
> Dave
>
> On 1/15/16, david.mcguinty@parl.gc.ca <david.mcguinty@parl.gc.ca> wrote:
>> Received. Thank you.
>> ________________________________________
>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>> Sent: January 15, 2016 2:22 PM
>> To: McGuinty, David - M.P.; McKay, John - M.P.; Long, Wayne - Riding 1;
>> McKenna, Catherine - M.P.; McCrimmon, Karen - Riding 1; Ludwig, Karen -
>> Riding 2; karen.ludwig.nb; MacKinnon, Steven - Député
>> Cc: David Amos
>> Subject: Fwd: Re Federal Court Rule 46 (1) (a) (viii) as it applies to my
>> complaint (File No: T-1557-15) Trust that I called and tried to talk a
>> lot
>> bureaucrats and politicians etc before sharing the hearings held on Dec
>> 14th
>> and Jan 11th
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 16:29:14 -0400
>> Subject: Re Federal Court Rule 46 (1) (a) (viii) as it applies to my
>> complaint (File No: T-1557-15) Trust that I called and tried to talk a
>> lot bureaucrats and politicians etc before sharing the hearings held
>> on Dec 14th and Jan 11th
>> To: Rheal.Fortin.c1@parl.gc.ca, Murray.Rankin.c1@parl.gc.ca,
>> cmunroe@glgmlaw.com, nbd_cna@liberal.ca, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>,
>> ljulien@liberal.ca, pmilliken <pmilliken@cswan.com>, bdysart
>> <bdysart@smss.com>, bdysart <bdysart@stewartmckelvey.com>,
>> Braeden.Caley@vancouver.ca, robert.m.schuett@schuettlaw.com,
>> jda@nf.aibn.com, eclark@coxandpalmer.com, office@liberal.ns.ca,
>> president@lpco.ca, david@lpcm.ca, emerchant
>> <emerchant@merchantlaw.com>, info@fja-cmf.gc.ca, w.kinew@uwinnipeg.ca,
>> richard.tardif@cas-satj.gc.ca, "andrew.scheer"
>> <andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca>, john.wallace@sen.parl.gc.ca, MulcaT
>> <MulcaT@parl.gc.ca>, "rona.ambrose.A1" <rona.ambrose.A1@parl.gc.ca>,
>> RBauer <RBauer@perkinscoie.com>, sshimshak@paulweiss.com,
>> cspada@lswlaw.com, msmith <msmith@svlaw.com>, bginsberg
>> <bginsberg@pattonboggs.com>, "gregory.craig"
>> <gregory.craig@skadden.com>, "Gilles.Blinn"
>> <Gilles.Blinn@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "bob.paulson"
>> <bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "bob.rae"
>> <bob.rae@rogers.blackberry.net>, "Gilles.Moreau"
>> <Gilles.Moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Stephane.vaillancourt"
>> <Stephane.vaillancourt@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
>> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>,
>> Chantal.Carbonneau@cas-satj.gc.ca, daniel.gosselin@cas-satj.gc.ca,
>> assistance@liberal.ca, Karine Fortin <info@ndp.ca>, "stephen.harper"
>> <stephen.harper.a1@parl.gc.ca>, heather.bradley@parl.gc.ca
>>
>> Anyway at least nobody said I could not so enjoy.
>>
>> Judge Bell Dec 14th
>>
>> https://archive.org/details/BahHumbug
>>
>> Judge Southcott Jan 11th
>>
>> https://archive.org/details/Jan11th2015
>>
>>
>> Federal Court Rule
>>
>> 46 (1) Subject to the approval of the Governor in Council and subject
>> also to subsection (4), the rules committee may make general rules and
>> orders
>>
>> (a) for regulating the practice and procedure in the Federal Court of
>> Appeal and in the Federal Court, including, without restricting the
>> generality of the foregoing,
>>
>> (viii) rules governing the recording of proceedings in the course of a
>> hearing and the transcription of that recording,
>>
>>
>> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>>
>> OTTAWA, January 7, 2016
>>
>> In response to recent media reports regarding the application of Order
>> in Council PC 2015-1071, the Chief Administrator of the Courts
>> Administration Service (CAS) is releasing the following statement on
>> behalf of the Chief Justices of the Federal Court of Appeal, the
>> Federal Court, the Court Martial Appeal Court of Canada and the Tax
>> Court of Canada:
>>
>> The Chief Justices share the position conveyed today by the Chief
>> Justice of Canada. They are also encouraged by the federal
>> government’s response to their concerns about the impact of this Order
>> in Council on judicial independence and are expecting a satisfactory
>> resolution of the issue shortly.
>>
>> For further information contact:
>> Richard Tardif
>> Deputy Chief Administrator
>> Judicial and Registry Services
>> Courts Administration Service
>> richard.tardif@cas-satj.gc.ca
>> Tel: 613-943-3458
>>
>> http://goc411.ca/Employees/IndexByDepartment/58
>>
>> Daniel Gosselin
>> Chief Administrator:
>> Courts Administration Service
>> Principal Office
>> 90 Sparks St.
>> Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0H9
>> Phone: 613-996-4778
>> Fax: 613-941-6197
>> Email: daniel.gosselin@cas-satj.gc.ca
>>
>> The clerks above did not have the sand to call me back but the lawyer
>> below certainly did. I hung up on her the instant she told me
>> everybody was too busy
>> to bother talking to me.
>>
>> http://goc411.ca/60585/Lise-Henrie
>>
>> Lise Henrie
>> Executive Directer and General Counsel
>> 613-943-5484
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 14:55:21 -0400
>> Subject: Fwd: Attt Commissioner William A. Brooks id you wish to
>> recall I have some old documents for you and many foreign judges to
>> review ASAP
>> To: heather.bradley@parl.gc.ca, "andrew.scheer"
>> <andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca>, john.wallace@sen.parl.gc.ca
>> Cc: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>, bdysart
>> <bdysart@stewartmckelvey.com>
>>
>> I just called both of you again
>>
>> Heather Bradley, Director of Communications, Office of the Speaker of the
>> House of Commons:
>> Telephone: 613-995-7882
>> E-mail: heather.bradley@parl.gc.ca
>>
>>
>> John D. Wallace - Independent
>>
>> Province:
>> New Brunswick
>> Senatorial Designation:
>> Rothesay
>> Appointed on the advice of: Harper (C)
>> Telephone: 613-947-4240 or 1-800-267-7362
>> Fax: 613-947-4252
>> Email: john.wallace@sen.parl.gc.ca
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>> Date: Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 4:00 PM
>> Subject: Attt Commissioner William A. Brooks id you wish to recall I have
>> some old documents for you and many foreign judges to review ASAP
>> To: info@fja-cmf.gc.ca, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, pmilliken
>> <pmilliken@cswan.com>,
>> MulcaT <MulcaT@parl.gc.ca>, "rona.ambrose.A1"
>> <rona.ambrose.A1@parl.gc.ca>
>> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>> Welcome to the Website of the Office of the Commissioner for Federal
>> Judicial Affairs Canada
>>
>> The Commissioner for Federal Judicial Affairs reports directly to the
>> Minister of Justice. The Office of the Commissioner was established in
>> 1978 to safeguard the independence of the judiciary and provide
>> federally appointed judges with administrative services independent of
>> the Department of Justice.
>>
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>>
>> administering Part I of the Judges Act, which deals with
>> eligibility for appointment, retirement age, and salaries of federally
>> appointed judges;
>>
>> preparing a budget and providing services and staff to the
>> Canadian Judicial Council;
>>
>> managing the Judicial Appointments Secretariat, which administers
>> 17 advisory committees responsible for evaluating candidates for
>> federal judicial appointment. The Minister of Justice has also
>> mandated FJA to administer the process for the most recent
>> appointments to the Supreme Court of Canada;
>>
>> managing the Federal Courts Reports Section, which is responsible
>> for selecting and publishing Federal Court of Appeal and Federal Court
>> decisions in both official languages;
>>
>> administering a judicial intranet called JUDICOM, which provides
>> judges with email, a secure and restricted communication system, and a
>> virtual library;
>>
>> providing language training to judges in both official languages;
>>
>> coordinating initiatives related to the Canadian judiciary's role
>> in international cooperation.
>>
>> In order to carry out these activities and provide services to
>> approximately 1,100 active judges and 850 retired judges and their
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>> Commissioner, six Directors and, at present, 70 other staff members.
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>> Phone: 613-995-5140
>> Fax: 613-995-5615
>> info@fja-cmf.gc.ca,
>>
>> http://opendatacanada.com/employee.php?name=Brooks,+William+A.
>>
>> William A. Brooks works as Commissioner (Commissaire) in
>> COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE (BUREAU DU COMMISSAIRE), Office of the
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>> The address is 99 Metcalfe Street, 8th Floor, Ottawa, Ontario K1A 1E3.
>>
>> In 1996, Federal Judicial Affairs (FJA) was given the responsibility
>> by the Chief Justice of Canada and the Federal Minister of Justice to
>> coordinate the involvement of the Canadian judiciary in international
>> technical cooperation initiatives. The Commissioner for FJA thus
>> represents the principal instrument of intervention in the
>> international judicial arena on behalf of the federal government, the
>> Minister of Justice and the Canadian Judicial Council, ensuring that
>> their participation in international activities does not compromise
>> judicial independence and impartiality. The Commissioner is supported
>> in the discharge of these responsibilities by the Judicial Advisory
>> Committee on International Engagement.
>>
>> Since its inception and with the professional contributions of members
>> of the judicial community, judicial experts and Canadian institutional
>> partners, the International Programs Division (IPD) has implemented
>> numerous international judicial cooperation activities and coordinated
>> the participation of Canadian experts to that end. IPD is guided by
>> the Canadian Judicial Council Policy on International Judicial
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>>
>> http://www.cjc-ccm.gc.ca/cmslib/general/news_pub_other_PolicyIJA_2007_en.pdf
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>> Canadian Partners
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>> assistance to the International Programs Division of Federal Judicial
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>> Supreme Court of Canada
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>> Canadian Department of Justice
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>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 09:35:01 -0400
>> Subject: RE My complaint against the CROWN in Federal Court Attn David
>> Hansen and Peter MacKay If you planning to submit a motion for a
>> publication ban on my complaint trust that you dudes are way past too
>> late
>> To: David.Hansen@justice.gc.ca, "peter.mackay"
>> <peter.mackay@justice.gc.ca>, "peacock.kurt"
>> <peacock.kurt@telegraphjournal.com>, "mclaughlin.heather"
>> <mclaughlin.heather@dailygleaner.com>, "david.akin"
>> <david.akin@sunmedia.ca>, "robert.frater"
>> <robert.frater@justice.gc.ca>, paul.riley@ppsc-sppc.gc.ca,
>> greg@gregdelbigio.com, joyce.dewitt-vanoosten@gov.bc.ca,
>> joan.barrett@ontario.ca, jean-vincent.lacroix@gouv.qc.ca,
>> peter.rogers@mcinnescooper.com, mfeder@mccarthy.ca, mjamal@osler.com
>> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, gopublic
>> <gopublic@cbc.ca>, Whistleblower <Whistleblower@ctv.ca>
>>
>> https://scc-csc.lexum.com/scc-csc/scc-csc/en/item/14439/index.do
>>
>> http://www.scc-csc.gc.ca/WebDocuments-DocumentsWeb/35072/FM030_Respondent_Attorney-General-of-Canada-on-Behalf-of-the-United-States-of-America.pdf
>>
>> http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/10/re-glen-greenwald-and-brazilian.html
>>
>> I repeat what the Hell do I do with the Yankee wiretapes taps sell
>> them on Ebay or listen to them and argue them with you dudes in
>> Feferal Court?
>>
>> Petey Baby loses all arliamentary privelges in less than a month but
>> he still suposed to be an ethical officer of the Court CORRECT?
>>
>> Veritas Vincit
>> David Raymond Amos
>> 902 800 0369
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 12:32:30 -0400
>> Subject: Andre meet Biil Csapo of Occupy Wall St He is a decent fellow
>> who can be reached at (516) 708-4777 Perhaps you two should talk ASAP
>> To: wcsapo <wcsapo@gmail.com>
>> Cc: occupyfredericton <occupyfredericton@gmail.com>
>>
>> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Your friends in Corridor or the Potash Corp or Bruce Northrup
>> or the RCMP should have told you about this stuff not I
>> To: "khalid" <khalid@windsorenergy.ca>, "Wayne.Lang"
>> <Wayne.Lang@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "bruce.northrup@gnb.ca"
>> <bruce.northrup@gnb.ca>, "oldmaison@yahoo.com" <oldmaison@yahoo.com>,
>> "thenewbrunswicker" <thenewbrunswicker@gmail.com>, "chiefape"
>> <chiefape@gmail.com>, "danfour" <danfour@myginch.com>, "evelyngreene"
>> <evelyngreene@live.ca>, "Barry.MacKnight"
>> <Barry.MacKnight@fredericton.ca>, "tom_alexander"
>> <tom_alexander@swn.com>
>> Cc: "thepurplevioletpress" <thepurplevioletpress@gmail.com>,
>> "maritime_malaise" <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>
>> Date: Tuesday, November 15, 2011, 4:16 PM
>>
>>
>> http://www.archive.org/details/PoliceSurveilanceWiretapTape139
>>
>> http://www.archive.org/details/FedsUsTreasuryDeptRcmpEtc
>>
>> http://davidamos.blogspot.com/
>>
>> FEDERAL EXPRES February 7, 2006
>> Senator Arlen Specter
>> United States Senate
>> Committee on the Judiciary
>> 224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
>> Washington, DC 20510
>>
>> Dear Mr. Specter:
>>
>> I have been asked to forward the enclosed tapes to you from a man
>> named, David Amos, a Canadian citizen, in connection with the matters
>> raised in the attached letter. Mr. Amos has represented to me that
>> these are illegal
>> FBI wire tap tapes. I believe Mr. Amos has been in contact with you
>> about this previously.
>>
>> Very truly yours,
>> Barry A. Bachrach
>> Direct telephone: (508) 926-3403
>> Direct facsimile: (508) 929-3003
>> Email: bbachrach@bowditch.com
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 14:10:14 -0400
>> Subject: Yo Mr Bauer say hey to your client Obama and his buddies in
>> the USDOJ for me will ya?
>> To: RBauer <RBauer@perkinscoie.com>, sshimshak@paulweiss.com,
>> cspada@lswlaw.com, msmith <msmith@svlaw.com>, bginsberg
>> <bginsberg@pattonboggs.com>, "gregory.craig"
>> <gregory.craig@skadden.com>, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, "bob.paulson"
>> <bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "bob.rae"
>> <bob.rae@rogers.blackberry.net>, MulcaT <MulcaT@parl.gc.ca>, leader
>> <leader@greenparty.ca>
>> Cc: alevine@cooley.com, David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>,
>> michael.rothfeld@wsj.com, remery@ecbalaw.com
>>
>> QSLS Politics
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>> Country : United States (Facts)
>> State : District of Columbia
>> City : Washington
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>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "David Amos" <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>> To: "Rob Talach" <rtalach@ledroitbeckett.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 10:59 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Attn Robert Talach and I should talk ASAP about my suing
>>> the Catholic Church Trust that Bastarache knows why
>>>
>>> The date stamp on about page 134 of this old file of mine should mean
>>> a lot to you
>>>
>>> http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/2619437-CROSS-BORDER-txt-.pdf
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:37:08 -0400
>>> Subject: To Hell with the KILLER COP Gilles Moreau What say you NOW
>>> Bernadine Chapman??
>>> To: Gilles.Moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, phil.giles@statcan.ca,
>>> maritme_malaise@yahoo.ca, Jennifer.Nixon@ps-sp.gc.ca,
>>> bartman.heidi@psic-ispc.gc.ca, Yves.J.Marineau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
>>> david.paradiso@erc-cee.gc.ca, desaulniea@smtp.gc.ca,
>>> denise.brennan@tbs-sct.gc.ca, anne.murtha@vac-acc.gc.ca, webo
>>> <webo@xplornet.com>, julie.dickson@osfi-bsif.gc.ca,
>>> rod.giles@osfi-bsif.gc.ca, flaherty.j@parl.gc.ca, toewsv1
>>> <toewsv1@parl.gc.ca>, "Nycole.Turmel" <Nycole.Turmel@parl.gc.ca>,
>>> Clemet1 <Clemet1@parl.gc.ca>, maritime_malaise
>>> <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>, oig <oig@sec.gov>, whistleblower
>>> <whistleblower@finra.org>, whistle <whistle@fsa.gov.uk>, david
>>> <david@fairwhistleblower.ca>
>>> Cc: j.kroes@interpol.int, David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>,
>>> bernadine.chapman@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, "justin.trudeau.a1"
>>> <justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca>, "Juanita.Peddle"
>>> <Juanita.Peddle@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>,
>>> "Wayne.Lang" <Wayne.Lang@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Robert.Trevors"
>>> <Robert.Trevors@gnb.ca>, "ian.fahie" <ian.fahie@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
>>>
>>> http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/nb/news-nouvelles/media-medias-eng.htm
>>>
>>> http://nb.rcmpvet.ca/Newsletters/VetsReview/nlnov06.pdf
>>>
>>> From: Gilles Moreau <Gilles.Moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
>>> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:03:22 -0500
>>> Subject: Re: Lets ee if the really nasty Newfy Lawyer Danny Boy
>>> Millions will explain this email to you or your boss Vic Toews EH
>>> Constable Peddle???
>>> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Please cease and desist from using my name in your emails.
>>>
>>> Gilles Moreau, Chief Superintendent, CHRP and ACC
>>> Director General
>>> HR Transformation
>>> 73 Leikin Drive, M5-2-502
>>> Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0R2
>>>
>>> Tel 613-843-6039
>>> Cel 613-818-6947
>>>
>>> Gilles Moreau, surintendant principal, CRHA et ACC
>>> Directeur général de la Transformation des ressources humaines
>>> 73 Leikin, pièce M5-2-502
>>> Ottawa, ON K1A 0R2
>>>
>>> tél 613-843-6039
>>> cel 613-818-6947
>>> gilles.moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>>>
>>>>>> David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> 2012-11-21 00:01 >>>
>>
>> Could ya tell I am investigating your pension plan bigtime? Its
>> because no member of the RCMP I have ever encountered has earned it
>> yet
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 00:46:06 -0400
>> Subject: This is a brief as I can make my concerns Cst Peddle ask the
>> nasty Newfy lawyer Tommy Boy Marshall why that is
>> To: "Wayne.Lang" <Wayne.Lang@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, toewsv1
>> <toewsv1@parl.gc.ca>, georgemurphy@gov.nl.ca, tosborne@gov.nl.ca,
>> william.baer@usdoj.gov, randyedmunds@gov.nl.ca, yvonnejones@gov.nl.ca,
>> gerryrogers@gov.nl.ca
>> Cc: Juanita.Peddle@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, tommarshall@gov.nl.ca,
>> "bob.paulson" <bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, David Amos
>> <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:36:04 -0400
>> Subject: This is a brief as I can make my concerns Randy
>> To: randyedmunds <randyedmunds@gov.nl.ca>
>> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>
>> In a nutshell my concerns about the actions of the Investment Industry
>> affect the interests of every person in every district of every
>> country not just the USA and Canada. I was offering to help you with
>> Emera because my work with them and Danny Williams is well known and
>> some of it is over eight years old and in the PUBLIC Record.
>>
>> All you have to do is stand in the Legislature and ask the MInister of
>> Justice why I have been invited to sue Newfoundland by the
>> Conservatives
>>
>>
>> Obviously I am the guy the USDOJ and the SEC would not name who is the
>> link to Madoff and Putnam Investments
>>
>> Here is why
>>
>> http://banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Hearings.Hearing&Hearing_ID=90f8e691-9065-4f8c-a465-72722b47e7f2
>>
>> Notice the transcripts and webcasts of the hearing of the US Senate
>> Banking Commitee are still missing? Mr Emory should at least notice
>> Eliot Spitzer and the Dates around November 20th, 2003 in the
>> following file
>>
>> http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/2526023-DAMOSIntegrity-yea-right.-txt.pdf
>>
>> http://occupywallst.org/users/DavidRaymondAmos/
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "Hansen, David" <David.Hansen@justice.gc.ca>
>> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 19:28:44 +0000
>> Subject: RE: I just called again Mr Hansen
>> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>
>> Hello Mr. Amos,
>>
>> I manage the Justice Canada civil litigation section in the Atlantic
>> region. We are only responsible for litigating existing civil
>> litigation files in which the Attorney General of Canada is a named
>> defendant or plaintiff. If you are a plaintiff or defendant in an
>> existing civil litigation matter in the Atlantic region in which
>> Attorney General of Canada is a named defendant or plaintiff please
>> provide the court file number, the names of the parties in the action
>> and your question. I am not the appropriate contact for other
>> matters.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> David A. Hansen
>> Regional Director | Directeur régional
>> General Counsel |Avocat général
>> Civil Litigation and Advisory | Contentieux des affaires civiles et
>> services de consultation
>> Department of Justice | Ministère de la Justice
>> Suite 1400 – Duke Tower | Pièce 1400 – Tour Duke
>> 5251 Duke Street | 5251 rue Duke
>> Halifax, Nova Scotia | Halifax, Nouvelle- Écosse
>> B3J 1P3
>> david.hansen@justice.gc.ca
>> Telephone | Téléphone (902) 426-3261 / Facsimile | Télécopieur (902)
>> 426-2329
>> This e-mail is confidential and may be protected by solicitor-client
>> privilege. Unauthorized distribution or disclosure is prohibited. If
>> you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us and delete
>> this entire e-mail.
>> ?Before printing think about the Environment
>> Thinking Green, please do not print this e-mail unless necessary.
>> Pensez vert, svp imprimez que si nécessaire.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Amos [mailto:motomaniac333@gmail.com]
>> Sent: August 1, 2013 12:04 PM
>> To: justmin; Hansen, David; macpherson.don; stoffp1
>> Cc: David Amos; justin.trudeau.a1; leader
>> Subject: I just called again Mr Hansen
>>
>> David,Hansen,
>> Justice Canada,
>> Halifax, Nova Scotia,
>> B3J 1P3.
>> Phone: 902-426-3261.
>> Fax: 902-426-2329.
>> Email: david.hansen@justice.gc.ca
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "Hansen, David" <David.Hansen@justice.gc.ca>
>> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 18:19:29 +0000
>> Subject: Automatic reply: Re Election Canada and hard copy and emails
>> sent to them and the RCMP and my calls,Duncan Toswell and
>> Ronald.Lamothe just now
>> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>
>> I am currently away from the office. Please contact Ginette Mazerolle
>> if you require assistance.
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "Hansen, David" <David.Hansen@justice.gc.ca>
>> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 18:46:27 +0000
>> Subject: Automatic reply: RE My calls to Jim Prentice, Mike Duffy's
>> lawyer and your Ministries please find hereto attached some of the PDF
>> files I promised before I argue the CROWN in Federal Court
>> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>
>> I will be away from the office from August 1st to September 2nd.
>> Please contact Ginette Mazerolle if you require assistance.
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 14:55:29 -0300
>> Subject: Fwd: Here is my latest complaint about the SEC, Banksters and
>> Taxmen
>> To: hbrady@berkeley.edu, gsppdean@berkeley.edu, swinfo@scottwalker.com
>> Cc: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>
>> Henry E. Brady
>>
>> Goldman School Dean
>> Class of 1941 Monroe Deutsch Professor of Political Science and Public
>> Policy
>> 103 GSPP Main
>> hbrady@berkeley.edu
>> <javascript:void(location.href='mailto:
>> '+String.fromCharCode(104,98,114,97,100,121,64,98,101,114,107,101,108,101,121,46,101,100,117))>
>> gsppdean@berkeley.edu
>> <javascript:void(location.href='mailto:
>> '+String.fromCharCode(103,115,112,112,100,101,97,110,64,98,101,114,107,101,108,101,121,46,101,100,117))>
>>
>> *Assistant: Beth McCleary*
>> (510) 642-5116
>> *Email Beth McCleary*
>> <javascript:void(location.href='mailto:
>> '+String.fromCharCode(98,109,99,99,108,101,97,114,121,64,98,101,114,107,101,108,101,121,46,101,100,117))>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>> Date: Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 4:34 PM
>> Subject: Fwd: Here is my latest complaint about the SEC, Banksters and
>> Taxmen
>> To: jmwilson@mta.ca, alaina@alainalockhart.ca,
>> stephanie.coburn@greenparty.ca
>> Cc: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>> http://james4fundyroyal.weebly.com/
>>
>> https://alainalockhart.liberal.ca/
>>
>>
>> http://www.greenparty.ca/en/content/federal-council-new-brunswick-stephanie-coburn
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>> Date: Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 4:16 PM
>> Subject: Fwd: Here is my latest complaint about the SEC, Banksters and
>> Taxmen
>> To: Saint Croix Courier <editor@stcroixcourier.ca>, Duncan Matheson <
>> duncan@bissettmatheson.com>, infoacadie@radio-canada.ca
>> Cc: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>> *
>> https://player.fm/series/shift-nb/nursing-home-policy-change-and-federal-election
>> <
>> https://player.fm/series/shift-nb/nursing-home-policy-change-and-federal-election
>>>*
>>
>> Michelle LeBlanc, Vern Faulkner and Duncan Matheson look at the big
>> political stories of the week. - See more at:
>> https://player.fm/series/shift-nb/nursing-home-policy-change-and-federal-election#sthash.RYRFiC5P.dpuf
>>
>> https://twitter.com/mleblanc_RC
>> Keep up with Duncan
>>
>> 506-457-1627
>>
>>
>> *Editor:* Vern Faulkner
>> Phone: (506) 466-3220 ext. 1307; CELL (506) 467-5203
>> Email: editor@stcroixcourier.ca
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2015 10:18:04 -0300
>> Subject: Fwd: Here is my latest complaint about the SEC, Banksters and
>> Taxmen
>> To: nicolas@allvotes.ca, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, brendan@brendanmiles.ca
>> Cc: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>, Tim.Moen@libertarian.ca,
>> info@democraticadvancementparty.ca
>>
>> ENJOY
>>
>> https://www.scribd.com/doc/281544801/Federal-Court-Seal
>>
>> https://www.scribd.com/doc/281442628/Me-Versus-the-Crown
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 18:22:05 -0400
>> Subject: Re Federal Court File No: T-1557-15 Did you order Harper and
>> the NDP to ignore me as well???
>> To: Liberal / Assistance <nbd_cna@liberal.ca>, cmunroe@glgmlaw.com, pm
>> <pm@pm.gc.ca>, "justin.trudeau.a1" <justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca>, mcu
>> <mcu@justice.gc.ca>
>> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>
>> How about Dizzy Lizzy May and the Bloc?
>>
>> On 1/6/16, Cmunroe (Liberal / Assistance) <nbd_cna@liberal.ca> wrote:
>>
>> ---------- Original message ----------
>> From: "Cmunroe (Liberal / Assistance)" <nbd_cna@liberal.ca>
>> Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2016 19:28:25 +0000
>> Subject: Re: Attn Dr. John Gillis Re Federal Court File No: T-1557-15
>> Trust that I called and tried to reason with a lot of Liberals begore
>> I am before the cour...
>> To: Motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>
>> RealChange.ca | DuVraiChangement.ca
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------
>>
>> Cmunroe, Jan 6, 14:28
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I would ask that you please do not respond to this e-mail (in the
>> event that you were inclined to do so.)
>>
>> Let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Craig Munroe
>> (Party Legal and Constitutional Advisor)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Amos [mailto:motomaniac333@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 11:09 AM
>> To: Craig Munroe <cmunroe@glgmlaw.com>; nbd_cna@liberal.ca; pm
>> <pm@pm.gc.ca>; ljulien@liberal.ca; pmilliken <pmilliken@cswan.com>;
>> bdysart <bdysart@smss.com>; bdysart <bdysart@stewartmckelvey.com>;
>> Braeden.Caley@vancouver.ca; robert.m.schuett@schuettlaw.com;
>> jda@nf.aibn.com; eclark@coxandpalmer.com; office@liberal.ns.ca;
>> president@lpco.ca; david@lpcm.ca; emerchant@merchantlaw.com
>> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>; assistance@liberal.ca;
>> Karine Fortin <info@ndp.ca>; stephen.harper
>> <stephen.harper.a1@parl.gc.ca>
>> Subject: Re: Attn Dr. John Gillis Re Federal Court File No: T-1557-15
>> Trust that I called and tried to reason with a lot of Liberals begore
>> I am before the court again on Monday Jan 11th
>>
>> On 1/6/16, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> BTW the nice guys who talked to me and didn't dismiss me I put in the
>>> BCC line
>>>
>>> Dr. John Gillis
>>> P.O. Box 723
>>> 5151 George Street, Suite 1400
>>> Halifax, Nova Scotia
>>> Canada B3J 2T3
>>> Tel: (902) 429-1993
>>> Email: office@liberal.ns.ca
>>>
>>> John Allan, President
>>> Liberal Party of Newfoundland & Labrador
>>> T: (709) 685-1230
>>> jda@nf.aibn.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Braeden Caley
>>> Office of the Mayor, City of Vancouver
>>> 604-809-9951
>>> Braeden.Caley@vancouver.ca,
>>>
>>>
>>> Britt Dysart QC
>>> Suite 600, Frederick Square
>>> 77 Westmorland Street
>>> P.O. Box 730
>>> Fredericton, NB, Canada
>>> E3B 5B4
>>>
>>> P 506.443.0153
>>> F 506.443.9948
>>>
>>>
>>> Evatt F. A. Merchant
>>> Merchant Law Group LLP
>>> First Nations Bank Bldg.
>>> 501-224 4th Ave. S.
>>> Saskatoon, Saskatchewan S7K 5M5
>>> Phone: 306-653-7777
>>> Email: emerchant@merchantlaw.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Ewan W. Clark
>>> Montague
>>> Phone: (902) 838-5275
>>> Fax: (902) 838-3440
>>> eclark@coxandpalmer.com
>>>
>>> Robert M. Schuett
>>> #200, 602 11th Avenue SW
>>> Calgary Alberta T2R 1J8
>>> Phone: (403) 705-1261
>>> Fax: (403) 705-1265
>>> robert.m.schuett@schuettlaw.com
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.liberal.ca/national-board-of-directors/
>>>
>>> Who are we?
>>>
>>> We are volunteers from across the country who care passionately about
>>> Canada’s future and promoting Liberal values. We are community
>>> leaders, parents, and professionals who volunteer our time in this
>>> role. The board works together to provide oversight and guidance to
>>> the Party in matters both fiduciary, and strategic. We meet regularly
>>> in person and by phone with the objective of ensuring the Party is
>>> prepared for the next federal election. It is an honour to work with
>>> such a distinct and talented group of individuals. Please don’t
>>> hesitate to reach out to us at nbd_cna@liberal.ca.
>>> Anna Gainey
>>>
>>> President, Liberal Party of Canada
>>>
>>> T @annamgainey
>>> Leader Justin Trudeau
>>> National President Anna Gainey
>>> Acting National Director Christina Topp
>>> National Vice-President (English) Chris MacInnes
>>> National Vice-President (French) Marie Tremblay
>>> National Policy Chair Maryanne Kampouris
>>> National Membership Secretary Leanne Bourassa
>>> Past National President Mike Crawley
>>> President, Liberal Party of Newfoundland & Labrador John Allan
>>> President, Liberal Party of Prince Edward Island Ewan Clark
>>> President, Nova Scotia Liberal Party John Gillis
>>> President, New Brunswick Liberal Association Britt Dysart
>>> President, Liberal Party of Canada (Québec) Linda Julien
>>> President, Liberal Party of Canada (Ontario) Tyler Banham
>>> President, Liberal Party of Canada (Manitoba) Sachit Mehra
>>> President, Liberal Party of Canada (Saskatchewan) Evatt Merchant
>>> President, Liberal Party of Canada (Alberta) Robbie Schuett
>>> President, Liberal Party of Canada (British Columbia) Braeden
>>> Caley
>>> President, Federal Liberal Association of Yukon Blake Rogers
>>> President, Liberal Party of Canada (Northwest Territories) Rosanna
>>> Nicol
>>> President, Federal Liberal Association of Nunavut Michel Potvin
>>> Caucus Representative Francis Scarpaleggia
>>> Co-Chair, Aboriginal Peoples’ Commission (Female) Caitlin Tolley
>>> Co-Chair, Aboriginal Peoples’ Commission (Male) Kevin Seesequasis
>>> President, National Women’s Liberal Commission Carlene Variyan
>>> President, Young Liberals of Canada Justin Kaiser
>>> Co-Chair, Senior Liberals’ Commission (French) Anne Adams
>>> Co-Chair, Senior Liberals’ Commission (English) Kenneth D.
>>> Halliday
>>> Chair, Council of Presidents Veena Bhullar
>>> Chief Financial Officer Chuck Rifici
>>> Chief Revenue Officer Stephen Bronfman
>>> CEO, Federal Liberal Agency of Canada Mike Eizenga
>>> National Campaign Co-Chair Katie Telford
>>> Constitutional and Legal Adviser (English) Craig Munroe
>>> Constitutional and Legal Adviser (French) Elise Bartlett
>>>
>>> Craig T. Munroe, Partner
>>> Email: cmunroe@glgmlaw.com
>>> Phone: (604) 891-1176
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 19:32:00 -0400
>>> Subject: Re Federal Court File No: T-1557-15 the CBC, the RCMP, their
>>> new boss Justin Trudeau and his Ministers of Justice and Defence etc
>>> cannot deny their knowledge of Paragraphs 81, 82, 83, 84, and 85 now
>>> CORRECT G$?
>>> To: Paul.Samyn@freepress.mb.ca, "carolyn.bennett"
>>> <carolyn.bennett@parl.gc.ca>, Doug@dougeyolfson.ca,
>>> doug.eyolfson@parl.gc.ca, fpcity@freepress.mb.ca,
>>> w.kinew@uwinnipeg.ca, "Paul.Lynch" <Paul.Lynch@edmontonpolice.ca>,
>>> "Marianne.Ryan" <Marianne.Ryan@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, sunrayzulu
>>> <sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>, mcu <mcu@justice.gc.ca>, dnd_mdn@forces.gc.ca,
>>> "john.green" <john.green@gnb.ca>, chiefape <chiefape@gmail.com>
>>> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, gopublic
>>> <gopublic@cbc.ca>, oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, radical
>>> <radical@radicalpress.com>, newsonline <newsonline@bbc.co.uk>,
>>> newsroom <newsroom@globeandmail.ca>, nmoore <nmoore@bellmedia.ca>,
>>> andre <andre@jafaust.com>
>>>
>>> http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2015/09/v-behaviorurldefaultvmlo.
>>> html
>>>
>>> David Raymond Amos Versus The Crown T-1557-15
>>>
>>> 81. The Plaintiff states that matters of harassment that the police
>>> refuse to investigate would have entered the realm of ridiculous in
>>> 2012 if the reasons behind the suicides of teenagers did not become
>>> well known by the corporate media. In the summer of 2012 a new member
>>> of the FPS who as a former member of the EPS had inspired a lawsuit
>>> for beating a client in Edmonton called the Plaintiff and accused him
>>> of something he could not do even if he wanted to while he was arguing
>>> many lawyers byway of emails about a matter concerning cyber stalking
>>> that was before the SCC. The member of the FPF accused the Plaintiff
>>> of calling the boss of Bullying Canada thirty times. At that time his
>>> MagicJack account had been hacked and although he could receive
>>> incoming calls, the Plaintiff could not call out to anyone. The
>>> Plaintiff freely sent the FPF his telephone logs sourced from
>>> MagicJack after his account restored without the Crown having to issue
>>> a warrant to see his telephone records. He asked the FPF and the RCMP
>>> where did the records of his phone calls to and from the FPF and the
>>> RCMP go if his account had not been hacked. The police never
>>> responded. Years later a Troll sent Dean Roger Ray a message through
>>> YouTube providing info about the Plaintiff’s MagicJack account with
>>> the correct password. Dean Roger Ray promptly posted two videos in
>>> YouTube clearly displaying the blatant violation of privacy likely to
>>> protect himself from the crime. The Plaintiff quickly pointed out the
>>> videos to the RCMP and they refused to investigate as usual. At about
>>> the same point in time the Plaintiff noticed that the CBC had
>>> published a record of a access to information requests. On the list of
>>> requests he saw his name along with several employees of CBC and the
>>> boss of Bullying Canada. The Plaintiff called the CBC to make
>>> inquiries about what he saw published on the Internet. CBC told him it
>>> was none of his business and advised him if he thought his rights had
>>> been offended to file a complaint. It appears the Plaintiff that
>>> employees of CBC like other questionable Crown Corporations such as
>>> the RCMP rely on their attorneys far too much to defend them from
>>> litigation they invite from citizens they purportedly serve. The
>>> employees of CBC named within the aforementioned and the CBC Legal
>>> Dept. are very familiar with the Plaintiff and of the Crown barring
>>> him from legislative properties while he running for public office.
>>>
>>> 82. The Plaintiff states that any politician or police officer should
>>> have seen enough of Barry Winter’s WordPress blog by June 22, 2015
>>> particularly after the very unnecessary demise of two men in Alberta
>>> because of the incompetence of the EPS. Barry Winters was blogging
>>> about the EPS using battering ram in order to execute a warrant for a
>>> 250 dollar bylaw offence at the same time Professor Kris Wells
>>> revealed in a televised interview that the EPS member who was killed
>>> was the one investigating the cyber harassment of him. It was obvious
>>> why the police and politicians ignored all the death threats, sexual
>>> harassment, cyberbullying and hate speech of a proud Zionist who
>>> claimed to be a former CF officer who now working for the Department
>>> of National Defence (DND). It is well known that no politician in
>>> Canada is allowed to sit in Parliament as a member of the major
>>> parties unless they support Israel. Since 2002 the Plaintiff made it
>>> well known that he does not support Israeli actions and was against
>>> the American plan to make war on Iraq. On Aril 1, 2003 within two
>>> weeks of the beginning of the War on Iraq, the US Secret Service
>>> threatened to practice extraordinary rendition because false
>>> allegations of a Presidential threat were made against him by an
>>> American court. However, the Americans and the Crown cannot deny that
>>> what he said in two courts on April 1, 2003 because he published the
>>> recordings of what was truly said as soon as he got the court tapes.
>>> The RCMP knows those words can still be heard on the Internet today.
>>> In 2009, the Plaintiff began to complain of Barry Winters about
>>> something far more important to Canada as nation because of Winters’
>>> bragging of being one of 24 CF officers who assisted the Americans in
>>> the planning the War on Iraq in 2002. In the Plaintiff’s humble
>>> opinion the mandate of the DND is Defence not Attack. He is not so
>>> naive to think that such plans of war do not occur but if Barry
>>> Winters was in fact one of the CF officers who did so then he broke
>>> his oath to the Crown the instant he bragged of it in his blog. If
>>> Winters was never an officer in the CF then he broke the law by
>>> impersonating an officer. The Plaintiff downloaded the emails of the
>>> Privy Council about Wikileaks. The bragging of Barry Winters should
>>> have been investigated in 2009 before CBC reported that documents
>>> released by WikiLeaks supported his information about Canadian
>>> involvement in the War on Iraq.
>>>
>>> 83. The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war
>>> in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to
>>> allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over
>>> five years after he began his bragging:
>>>
>>> January 13, 2015
>>> This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate
>>>
>>> December 8, 2014
>>> Why Canada Stood Tall!
>>>
>>> Friday, October 3, 2014
>>> Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And
>>> Stupid Justin Trudeau
>>>
>>> Canada’s and Canadians free ride is over. Canada can no longer hide
>>> behind Amerka’s and NATO’s skirts.
>>>
>>> When I was still in Canadian Forces then Prime Minister Jean Chretien
>>> actually committed the Canadian Army to deploy in the second campaign
>>> in Iraq, the Coalition of the Willing. This was against or contrary to
>>> the wisdom or advice of those of us Canadian officers that were
>>> involved in the initial planning phases of that operation. There were
>>> significant concern in our planning cell, and NDHQ about of the dearth
>>> of concern for operational guidance, direction, and forces for
>>> operations after the initial occupation of Iraq. At the “last minute”
>>> Prime Minister Chretien and the Liberal government changed its mind.
>>> The Canadian government told our amerkan cousins that we would not
>>> deploy combat troops for the Iraq campaign, but would deploy a
>>> Canadian Battle Group to Afghanistan, enabling our amerkan cousins to
>>> redeploy troops from there to Iraq. The PMO’s thinking that it was
>>> less costly to deploy Canadian Forces to Afghanistan than Iraq. But
>>> alas no one seems to remind the Liberals of Prime Minister Chretien’s
>>> then grossly incorrect assumption. Notwithstanding Jean Chretien’s
>>> incompetence and stupidity, the Canadian Army was heroic,
>>> professional, punched well above it’s weight, and the PPCLI Battle
>>> Group, is credited with “saving Afghanistan” during the Panjway
>>> campaign of 2006.
>>>
>>> What Justin Trudeau and the Liberals don’t tell you now, is that then
>>> Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien committed, and deployed the
>>> Canadian army to Canada’s longest “war” without the advice, consent,
>>> support, or vote of the Canadian Parliament.
>>>
>>> What David Amos and the rest of the ignorant, uneducated, and babbling
>>> chattering classes are too addled to understand is the deployment of
>>> less than 75 special operations troops, and what is known by planners
>>> as a “six pac cell” of fighter aircraft is NOT the same as a
>>> deployment of a Battle Group, nor a “war” make.
>>>
>>> The Canadian Government or The Crown unlike our amerkan cousins have
>>> the “constitutional authority” to commit the Canadian nation to war.
>>> That has been recently clearly articulated to the Canadian public by
>>> constitutional scholar Phillippe Legasse. What Parliament can do is
>>> remove “confidence” in The Crown’s Government in a “vote of
>>> non-confidence.” That could not happen to the Chretien Government
>>> regarding deployment to Afghanistan, and it won’t happen in this
>>> instance with the conservative majority in The Commons regarding a
>>> limited Canadian deployment to the Middle East.
>>>
>>> President George Bush was quite correct after 911 and the terror
>>> attacks in New York; that the Taliban “occupied” and “failed state”
>>> Afghanistan was the source of logistical support, command and control,
>>> and training for the Al Quaeda war of terror against the world. The
>>> initial defeat, and removal from control of Afghanistan was vital and
>>> essential for the security and tranquility of the developed world. An
>>> ISIS “caliphate,” in the Middle East, no matter how small, is a clear
>>> and present danger to the entire world. This “occupied state,”
>>> or“failed state” will prosecute an unending Islamic inspired war of
>>> terror against not only the “western world,” but Arab states
>>> “moderate” or not, as well. The security, safety, and tranquility of
>>> Canada and Canadians are just at risk now with the emergence of an
>>> ISIS“caliphate” no matter how large or small, as it was with the
>>> Taliban and Al Quaeda “marriage” in Afghanistan.
>>>
>>> One of the everlasting “legacies” of the “Trudeau the Elder’s dynasty
>>> was Canada and successive Liberal governments cowering behind the
>>> amerkan’s nuclear and conventional military shield, at the same time
>>> denigrating, insulting them, opposing them, and at the same time
>>> self-aggrandizing ourselves as “peace keepers,” and progenitors of
>>> “world peace.” Canada failed. The United States of Amerka, NATO, the
>>> G7 and or G20 will no longer permit that sort of sanctimonious
>>> behavior from Canada or its government any longer. And Prime Minister
>>> Stephen Harper, Foreign Minister John Baird , and Cabinet are fully
>>> cognizant of that reality. Even if some editorial boards, and pundits
>>> are not.
>>>
>>> Justin, Trudeau “the younger” is reprising the time “honoured” liberal
>>> mantra, and tradition of expecting the amerkans or the rest of the
>>> world to do “the heavy lifting.” Justin Trudeau and his “butt buddy”
>>> David Amos are telling Canadians that we can guarantee our security
>>> and safety by expecting other nations to fight for us. That Canada can
>>> and should attempt to guarantee Canadians safety by providing
>>> “humanitarian aid” somewhere, and call a sitting US president a “war
>>> criminal.” This morning Australia announced they too, were sending
>>> tactical aircraft to eliminate the menace of an ISIS “caliphate.”
>>>
>>> In one sense Prime Minister Harper is every bit the scoundrel Trudeau
>>> “the elder” and Jean ‘the crook” Chretien was. Just As Trudeau, and
>>> successive Liberal governments delighted in diminishing,
>>> marginalizing, under funding Canadian Forces, and sending Canadian
>>> military men and women to die with inadequate kit and modern
>>> equipment; so too is Prime Minister Stephen Harper. Canada’s F-18s are
>>> antiquated, poorly equipped, and ought to have been replaced five
>>> years ago. But alas, there won’t be single RCAF fighter jock that
>>> won’t go, or won’t want to go, to make Canada safe or safer.
>>>
>>> My Grandfather served this country. My father served this country. My
>>> Uncle served this country. And I have served this country. Justin
>>> Trudeau has not served Canada in any way. Thomas Mulcair has not
>>> served this country in any way. Liberals and so called social
>>> democrats haven’t served this country in any way. David Amos, and
>>> other drooling fools have not served this great nation in any way. Yet
>>> these fools are more than prepared to ensure their, our safety to
>>> other nations, and then criticize them for doing so.
>>>
>>> Canada must again, now, “do our bit” to guarantee our own security,
>>> and tranquility, but also that of the world. Canada has never before
>>> shirked its responsibility to its citizens and that of the world.
>>>
>>> Prime Minister Harper will not permit this country to do so now
>>>
>>> From: dnd_mdn@forces.gc.ca
>>> Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 14:17:17 -0400
>>> Subject: RE: Re Greg Weston, The CBC , Wikileaks, USSOCOM, Canada and
>>> the War in Iraq (I just called SOCOM and let them know I was still
>>> alive
>>> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>>
>>> This is to confirm that the Minister of National Defence has received
>>> your email and it will be reviewed in due course. Please do not reply
>>> to this message: it is an automatic acknowledgement.
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Original message ----------
>>> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 13:55:30 -0300
>>> Subject: Re Greg Weston, The CBC , Wikileaks, USSOCOM, Canada and the
>>> War in Iraq (I just called SOCOM and let them know I was still alive
>>> To: DECPR@forces.gc.ca, Public.Affairs@socom.mil,
>>> Raymonde.Cleroux@mpcc-cppm.gc.ca, john.adams@cse-cst.gc.ca,
>>> william.elliott@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, stoffp1 <stoffp1@parl.gc.ca>,
>>> dnd_mdn@forces.gc.ca, media@drdc-rddc.gc.ca, information@forces.gc.ca,
>>> milner@unb.ca, charters@unb.ca, lwindsor@unb.ca,
>>> sarah.weir@mpcc-cppm.gc.ca, birgir <birgir@althingi.is>, smari
>>> <smari@immi.is>, greg.weston@cbc.ca, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>,
>>> susan@blueskystrategygroup.com, Don@blueskystrategygroup.com,
>>> eugene@blueskystrategygroup.com, americas@aljazeera.net
>>> Cc: "Edith. Cody-Rice" <Edith.Cody-Rice@cbc.ca>, "terry.seguin"
>>> <terry.seguin@cbc.ca>, acampbell <acampbell@ctv.ca>, whistleblower
>>> <whistleblower@ctv.ca>
>>>
>>> I talked to Don Newman earlier this week before the beancounters David
>>> Dodge and Don Drummond now of Queen's gave their spin about Canada's
>>> Health Care system yesterday and Sheila Fraser yapped on and on on
>>> CAPAC during her last days in office as if she were oh so ethical.. To
>>> be fair to him I just called Greg Weston (613-288-6938) I suggested
>>> that he should at least Google SOUCOM and David Amos It would be wise
>>> if he check ALL of CBC's sources before he publishes something else
>>> about the DND EH Don Newman? Lets just say that the fact that your
>>> old CBC buddy, Tony Burman is now in charge of Al Jazeera English
>>> never impressed me. The fact that he set up a Canadian office is
>>> interesting though
>>>
>>> http://www.blueskystrategygroup.com/index.php/team/don-newman/
>>>
>>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/media/story/2010/05/04/al-jazeera-english-
>>> launch.html
>>>
>>> Anyone can call me back and stress test my integrity after they read
>>> this simple pdf file. BTW what you Blue Sky dudes pubished about
>>> Potash Corp and BHP is truly funny. Perhaps Stevey Boy Harper or Brad
>>> Wall will fill ya in if you are to shy to call mean old me.
>>>
>>> http://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/Integrity-Yea-Right
>>>
>>> The Governor General, the PMO and the PCO offices know that I am not a
>>> shy political animal
>>>
>>> Veritas Vincit
>>> David Raymond Amos
>>> 902 800 0369
>>>
>>> Enjoy Mr Weston
>>> http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/news/story/2011/05/15/weston-iraq-invasion-w
>>> ikileaks.html
>>>
>>> "But Lang, defence minister McCallum's chief of staff, says military
>>> brass were not entirely forthcoming on the issue. For instance, he
>>> says, even McCallum initially didn't know those soldiers were helping
>>> to plan the invasion of Iraq up to the highest levels of command,
>>> including a Canadian general.
>>>
>>> That general is Walt Natynczyk, now Canada's chief of defence staff,
>>> who eight months after the invasion became deputy commander of 35,000
>>> U.S. soldiers and other allied forces in Iraq. Lang says Natynczyk was
>>> also part of the team of mainly senior U.S. military brass that helped
>>> prepare for the invasion from a mobile command in Kuwait."
>>>
>>> http://baconfat53.blogspot.com/2010/06/canada-and-united-states.html
>>>
>>> "I remember years ago when the debate was on in Canada, about there
>>> being weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Our American 'friends"
>>> demanded that Canada join into "the Coalition of the Willing. American
>>> "veterans" and sportscasters loudly denounced Canada for NOT buying
>>> into the US policy.
>>>
>>> At the time I was serving as a planner at NDHQ and with 24 other of my
>>> colleagues we went to Tampa SOUCOM HQ to be involved in the planning
>>> in the planning stages of the op....and to report to NDHQ, that would
>>> report to the PMO upon the merits of the proposed operation. There was
>>> never at anytime an existing target list of verified sites where there
>>> were deployed WMD.
>>>
>>> Coalition assets were more than sufficient for the initial strike and
>>> invasion phase but even at that point in the planning, we were
>>> concerned about the number of "boots on the ground" for the occupation
>>> (and end game) stage of an operation in Iraq. We were also concerned
>>> about the American plans for occupation plans of Iraq because they at
>>> that stage included no contingency for a handing over of civil
>>> authority to a vetted Iraqi government and bureaucracy.
>>>
>>> There was no detailed plan for Iraq being "liberated" and returned to
>>> its people...nor a thought to an eventual exit plan. This was contrary
>>> to the lessons of Vietnam but also to current military thought, that
>>> folks like Colin Powell and "Stuffy" Leighton and others elucidated
>>> upon. "What's the mission" how long is the mission, what conditions
>>> are to met before US troop can redeploy? Prime Minister Jean Chretien
>>> and the PMO were even at the very preliminary planning stages wary of
>>> Canadian involvement in an Iraq operation....History would prove them
>>> correct. The political pressure being applied on the PMO from the
>>> George W Bush administration was onerous
>>>
>>> American military assets were extremely overstretched, and Canadian
>>> military assets even more so It was proposed by the PMO that Canadian
>>> naval platforms would deploy to assist in naval quarantine operations
>>> in the Gulf and that Canadian army assets would deploy in Afghanistan
>>> thus permitting US army assets to redeploy for an Iraqi
>>> operation....The PMO thought that "compromise would save Canadian
>>> lives and liberal political capital.. and the priority of which
>>> ....not necessarily in that order. "
>>>
>>> You can bet that I called these sneaky Yankees again today EH John
>>> Adams? of the CSE within the DND?
>>>
>>> http://www.socom.mil/SOCOMHome/Pages/ContactUSSOCOM.aspx
>>>
>>>
>>> 84. The Plaintiff states that the RCMP is well aware that he went to
>>> western Canada in 2104 at the invitation of a fellow Maritimer in
>>> order to assist in his attempt to investigate the murders of many
>>> people in Northern BC. The Plaintiff has good reasons to doubt his
>>> fellow Maritimer’s motives. The fact that he did not tell the
>>> Plaintiff until he had arrived in BC that he had invited a Neo Nazi he
>>> knew the Plaintiff strongly disliked to the same protest that he was
>>> staging in front of the court house in Prince George on August 21,
>>> 2014. The Plaintiff was looking forward to meeting Lonnie Landrud so
>>> he ignored the Neo Nazi. Several months after their one and only
>>> meeting, Lonnie Landrud contacted the Plaintiff and asked him to
>>> publish a statement of his on the Internet and to forward it to anyone
>>> he wished. The Plaintiff obliged Landrud and did an investigation of
>>> his own as well. He has informed the RCMP of his opinion of their
>>> actions and has done nothing further except monitor the criminal
>>> proceedings the Crown has placed against the Neo Nazi in BC and save
>>> his videos and webpages and that of his associates. The words the
>>> Plaintiff stated in public in Prince George BC on August 21, 2014 were
>>> recorded by the Neo Nazi and published on the Internet and the RCMP
>>> knows the Plaintiff stands by every word. For the public record the
>>> Plaintiff truly believes what Lonnie Landrud told him despite the fact
>>> that he does not trust his Neo Nazi associates. Therefore the
>>> Plaintiff had no ethical dilemma whatsoever in publishing the
>>> statement Lonnie Landrud mailed to him in a sincere effort to assist
>>> Lonnie Landrud’s pursuit of justice. The Crown is well aware that
>>> Plaintiff’s former lawyer, Barry Bachrach once had a leader of the
>>> American Indian Movement for a client and that is why he ran against
>>> the former Minister of Indian Affairs for his seat in the 39th
>>> Parliament.
>>>
>>> 85. The Plaintiff states that while he was out west he visited
>>> Edmonton AB several times and met many people. He visited the home of
>>> Barry Winters and all his favourite haunts in the hope of meeting in
>>> person the evil person who had been sexually harassing and threatening
>>> to kill him and his children for many years. The Crown cannot deny
>>> that Winters invited him many times. On June 13, 2015 Barry Winters
>>> admitted the EPS warned him the Plaintiff was looking for him.
>>>
>>> On 12/21/15, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: "Rabson, Mia" <Mia.Rabson@freepress.mb.ca>
>>>> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 20:45:36 +0000
>>>> Subject: Automatic reply: Attn Wab Kinew
>>>> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> I will be out of the office until Monday, January 4.
>>>> If you need immediate assistance please contact our city desk at 613
>>>> 697 7292 or fpcity@freepress.mb.ca.
>>>> Happy Holidays!
>>>>
>>>> Mia Rabson
>>>> Parliamentary Bureau Chief
>>>> Winnipeg Free Press
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: "Sarra R. Deane" <s.deane@uwinnipeg.ca>
>>>> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 20:10:12 +0000
>>>> Subject: Automatic reply: Attn Wab Kinew
>>>> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> I will be out of the office until Thursday, Nov. 12th. I will
>>>> respond to emails upon my return. Miigwech and all the best.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>>> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 16:45:29 -0400
>>>> Subject: Fwd: Attn Wab Kinew
>>>> To: mia.rabson@freepress.mb.ca, Paul.Samyn@freepress.mb.ca,
>>>> "carolyn.bennett" <carolyn.bennett@parl.gc.ca>, Doug@dougeyolfson.ca,
>>>> doug.eyolfson@parl.gc.ca
>>>> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/peacemaker-363019331.html
>>>>
>>>> Peacemaker
>>>> Group pushes for Truth and Reconciliation chairman to get Nobel Prize
>>>>
>>>> By: Mia Rabson
>>>> Posted: 12/19/2015 3:00 AM | Last Modified: 12/19/2015 6:12 AM
>>>>
>>>> " Murray Sinclair already has an impressive resumé.
>>>>
>>>> He's the first aboriginal judge appointed to the bench in Manitoba,
>>>> co-commissioner of the Aboriginal Justice Inquiry and chairman of the
>>>> Truth and Reconciliation Commission.
>>>>
>>>> But if a group of Canadians has its way, he will get one of the
>>>> highest honours in the world to add to the list: Nobel Peace Prize
>>>> recipient.
>>>>
>>>> "He and Phil Fontaine should share a Nobel Peace Prize," said Wab
>>>> Kinew, associate vice-president for indigenous relations at the
>>>> University of Winnipeg.
>>>>
>>>> Kinew said a group of people in Winnipeg, Toronto and Ottawa are
>>>> collaborating to nominate the two men, who they believe are jointly
>>>> responsible for giving back hope to Canada's indigenous people that
>>>> hasn't existed in a long time.
>>>>
>>>> "They made it into something that is peace-building and
>>>> nation-building," Kinew said. "It has really transformed our country."
>>>>
>>>> Mia Rabson, Ottawa Bureau Chief
>>>> 613-369–4824
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>> Samyn, Editor
>>>> 204–697–7295
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>>> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 16:05:01 -0400
>>>> Subject: Attn Wab Kinew
>>>> To: w.kinew@uwinnipeg.ca, "Paul.Lynch"
>>>> <Paul.Lynch@edmontonpolice.ca>, "Marianne.Ryan"
>>>> <Marianne.Ryan@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
>>>> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> https://baconfatreport.wordpress.com/2015/12/21/why-do-canadians-need
>>>> -to-know-anything-about-injuns/
>>>>
>>>> http://www.uwinnipeg.ca/about/administration/avp-igca.htmlAssociate
>>>> Vice-President, Indigenous Affairs
>>>>
>>>> Wab Kinew
>>>> phone: 204.789.9931
>>>> email: w.kinew@uwinnipeg.ca
>>>> Biography/Publications
>>>>
>>>> Executive Assistant
>>>>
>>>> Sarra Deane
>>>> phone: 204.988.7121
>>>> email: s.deane@uwinnipeg.ca
>>>>
>>>
>>
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