Poilievre squares off in debate with 9 other candidates vying for seat in Alberta byelection
About 210 candidates registered to run as of Monday
Pierre Poilievre promised voters in Camrose, Alta., Tuesday night that his goal is to amplify local riding issues on a national scale, while his opponents in the candidate forum took aim at the high-profile politician who doesn't live in the region.
On the forum stage, 10 candidates made their pitches for why they would be the best to represent Battle River-Crowfoot. Candidates tackled issues like affordability, agriculture, immigration and how to best represent Alberta's interests to Ottawa.
The forum was hosted by Camrose and District Chamber of Commerce ahead of the Aug. 18 byelection in the city about 95 kilometres southeast of Edmonton.
"My mission here is to give national leadership to the issues that are of local importance," Poilievre told the sold-out audience.
Poilievre walked into the venue shaking hands, with an entourage of supporters chanting his name. On stage, he quipped that about 190 candidates were missing.
WATCH | Poilievre gives opening remarks:
Pierre Poilievre's opening statement during the Battle River–Crowfoot debate The Conservative leader is expected to win the riding in eastern Alberta, one of the safest Conservative ridings in the country.
Former MP Damien Kurek won in April with nearly 83 per cent of the vote, before resigning to allow Poilievre the opportunity to sit in Parliament after failing to win the Ottawa riding of Carleton — a riding he represented for two decades.
Poilievre will once again be running against a long list of candidates with the Longest Ballot Committee protest pushing it past the 200 mark.
Because of that ballooning number, Elections Canada has opted to use a write-in ballot instead of the traditional list of names.
About 210 candidates were registered to run as of Monday on Elections Canada's website, including Liberal candidate Darcy Spady, the NDP's Katherine Swampy, Independent Bonnie Critchley and dozens of others sponsored by the Longest Ballot Committee protest group.
Conservative
Leader Pierre Poilievre speaks during the Battle River–Crowfoot
byelection candidate forum Tuesday night in Camrose, Alta. (Kory Siegers/CBC)
The moderator kept a tight schedule, cutting off the microphones of anyone who ran over their allotted time as the candidates answered a range of questions submitted by the public about the economy, health-care privatization and electoral reform.
Poilievre noted he is originally from Calgary, but said he shares the same values as many in the riding.
"My Alberta values taught me about faith, family and freedom, hard work, helping your neighbours. And those values guided me to fight for the values of this region."
Critchley pointed out in her closing statement that several candidates, including Poilievre, won't be able to vote in the byelection because they don't live in the riding. She said those from outside the riding cannot understand the local issues.
"If you want to run for an area, you need to live here. This longest ballot crap, that's got to stop," she said.
WATCH | The longest ballot in federal election history with a twist:
The longest ballot in federal election history with a twistWith
more than 200 names now in the running in Alberta’s Battle
River–Crowfoot byelection, voters now won’t actually be scanning a long
piece of paper to mark an "x" beside their preferred candidate. They
will, however, need to come prepared because they'll be writing the name
of the candidate they're voting for by hand.
Liberal candidate Spady said he also disagreed with the protest. He introduced himself by "I'm from Three Hills, and I don't want to be prime minister," a line that elicited chuckles from the crowd and from Poilievre when he repeated it.
Poilievre said that party leaders often spend much of their time outside their constituency.
"I'll be honest, having a leader of a political party as your local member of Parliament is a trade-off."
"At the other side though, that leader can bring a very powerful megaphone to the local issues of the community."
Ten candidates for the Battle River–Crowfoot byelection participated in the candidate forum on Tuesday. (Emily Williams/CBC)
He said he'd champion local issues like pipelines, protecting firearm rights and fixing issues at the Drumheller Institution.
The forum also featured candidates from the People's Party of Canada, the Green Party, the Libertarian Party, the Christian Heritage Party and the United Party of Canada.
"I think we all know this is Pierre's riding to lose here; he's definitely going to win," Green Party candidate Ashley MacDonald said in his closing statement. "So please, take a chance."
The representation question
Poilievre's profile as Conservative leader was a hot topic among debate-goers Tuesday.
"I think he's going to be the same as he was for the Carleton riding," Susan Lahey told CBC while waiting in line outside.
"I think his focus is on being the leader of the Opposition and being in Ottawa and fulfilling his duties there, which is kind of sad, but it is what it is."
Hundreds of people attended the forum to see 10 candidates debate a variety of issues. (David Bajer/CBC)
Malcolm Fischer from Stettler, Alta., said while he'd prefer someone from the riding, he's convinced Poilievre will represent them in good stead.
"He's a Calgary boy originally. And certainly I don't like it, but I understand it."
Others, like Larry Lewsaw, saw having the leader represent the riding as a benefit.
"I think we would have the best possible combination. We would have as our member of Parliament, the leader of the Opposition, who has a very strong voice in parliament."
With files from The Canadian Press
More than 200 candidates running against Poilievre in Alberta byelection | Power & Politics
Jul 28, 2025
Elections Canada says it is switching to a write-in ballot for next month's byelection in Battle River-Crowfoot due to the record number of candidates running in the riding. Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre, who is running in the byelection, is calling for restrictions on how candidates can sign up. The Longest Ballot Committee's Mark Moutter tells Power & Politics how the group’s efforts are highlighting the need for electoral reform.
132-Name Ballot EXPOSED: $350k Scheme to Rig Canada’s Vote
Jul 27, 2025
They lost the 2015 electoral-reform fight—so now they’re breaking the ballot box. A shadow network of pro-PR NGOs just weaponized Section 67 of the Canada Elections Act, dropping 132 “independent” names on one rural Alberta ballot and sending the printing bill—$350,000—to you.
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The draft “Democracy Protection Act” that could rewrite who’s allowed on your ballot next year.
RESOURCES & RECEIPTS
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– CRA T3010 filings (2019-2024)
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Elections Canada abandons mandate with Battle River-Crowfoot farce
The "Longest Ballot Committee" exploited a loophole in the Battle River-Crowfoot byelection, registering nearly 200 candidates. A whistleblower claims he was duped into being a "paper candidate."
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WHO is Behind The Longest Ballot? One Of Their Candidates ASKED US To Interview Them!
Jul 19, 2025
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Poilievre 'pivots' his Conservatives...with creepy emails and convoy support
Jul 22, 2025
Let’s check in on Canada’s Conservative Party, shall we? Because after the election, one word was all the rage when it came to Pierre Poilievre’s party: “pivot.”
At first, it seemed like the Conservatives might have planned to take a crack at a new tone. Some of them actually started going on CBC and, shockingly, talking to journalists a tiny bit.
Then came a series of…concerning…fundraising emails.
More recently, Poilievre and several of his MPs posted supportive messages for the Freedom Convoy organizers.
Altogether, it seems as though any “pivot” from the Conservative Party is heading exclusively in one direction: further right.
“I’ve NEVER Seen This Before”: Scheer Responds to Carney’s Ethics BOMBSHELL & Convoy Sentencing
Jul 29, 2025
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Conservatives under fire as 'Freedom Convoy' support taken as attack on judicial independence
Jul 30, 2025
The Ontario Crown Attorney’s Association is hitting back after Conservative Party politicians — including leader Pierre Poilievre — came out swinging for the organizers of the freedom convoy.
These MPs said the sentences the crown is seeking for Tamara Lich and Chris Barber are “excessive and vindictive,” suggested that it’s “political vengeance,” and one MP even mused they’d “probably be better off” if they were “temporary residents”
Classy.
Meanwhile, Pierre Poilievre pointed to the this as evidence of the “insanity of the Liberal justice system.”
These posts have prompted the Ontario Crown Attorney’s Association President, Donna Kellway, to issue a warning — one that they rooted in the “horrifying daily attacks on the prosecutorial independence of our southern neighbours.
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I reached out to two lawyers about this. It turns out Kellway was right to raise the alarm
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Let’s talk about it.
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Jul 29, 2025
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Jul 29, 2025
The Camrose & District Chamber of Commerce is hosting a Battle River–Crowfoot By-Election Candidate Forum on Tuesday, July 29th at 7:00 PM at the Jeanne & Peter Lougheed Performing Arts Centre – Cargill Theatre in Camrose, Alberta.
This event will offer the public an important opportunity to hear from the candidates directly.
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https://peterhouse.ca/
Hi, I’m Peter House and I’m running as an Independent in the Federal
By-election in Mississauga-Lakeshore…and I have a lot to say about it!
November 30, 2022
Hello Canada,
Get ready for a breath of fresh air in the political landscape because
I am a totally different beast of aspiring politician than you’ve ever
seen before. I’m 32 years old, I think for myself and I’m running on
fresh ideas that are sure to impress.
My name is Peter House and I am excited to be running as an
Independent in the federal by-election happening in
Mississauga-Lakeshore on Dec 12th.
I grew up here. My mum taught math at LPSS for more than 35 years
where I also went to school. Growing up with a politically active
teacher, I was raised to strategically vote Liberal. The Harris
government, 1997 Ontario teachers’ strike and the double cohort that
marked the end of grade 13 are vivid memories that shaped my political
identity.
Many years ago, this riding was a Conservative stronghold but in
recent elections it’s been a fiercely competitive race between the
Liberal machine and the Conservative elite. Strategic voting is
usually extremely popular here…I know all too well as the former
President of the NDP Mississauga Riding Association from 2017-2019.
(Personally I left the NDP because labour has taken a backseat to
identity politics – which presents a huge electability problem for the
party.)
However, this by-election doesn’t present the usual motivations for
strategic voting since decisions in the House of Commons over the next
3 years will not be swayed by an additional Liberal nor Conservative
(nor NDP) Member of Parliament.
Earlier this year I founded the provincial Electoral Reform Party and
ran in the Ontario election on June 2nd in the most student dominated
riding in Canada of Waterloo where I went to school and lived for the
past decade. I got about 150 votes without a budget, media attention
nor team.
I am running on the same 4-point platform as I did in the provincial
election earlier this year:
1.) Electoral Reform is at the heart of my campaign. We need ranked
ballots with proportional representation and I am a proponent of
Single Transferable Vote.
STV would remove the motivation for strategic voting. Canadians
wouldn’t need to consider how everyone else was voting and could
instead rank their true preference on the ballot without being
punished. The representation we have in government would better
reflect the way people voted and parties with only a third of the
popular vote wouldn’t get majorities.
2.) Legislation that mandates our MPs hold a town hall in their riding
each month so their constituents can hold them accountable
face-to-face and so MPs have a pulse on the riding they ought to be
representing.
3.) Legislation that mandates our MPs write a weekly blog entry or
vlog entry – something publicly available explaining what they’ve been
doing as our representatives. Currently we just receive quarterly
partisan leaflets that are identical to the neighbouring ridings
except they put the local guy’s face on the front. It’s basically just
party propaganda.
4.) Legislation that ties 10% of our representatives’ salaries to
their approval rating amongst their constituents in their riding. With
the way the votes are whipped, our representatives never vote against
their own party. Party discipline is strong in Canada and politicians
rely on their party’s support to get elected. Legislation that gave
our representatives a financial incentive and an out to justify voting
against their own party would create an environment where our
politicians actually considered the interests of their constituents
instead of always voting with their party.
Electoral reform with STV isn’t just about being fair to voters. The
big picture with electoral reform is that many of the issues Canadians
are most passionate about lack the political will necessary for
actually passing legislation that addresses the issues. This is
largely due to lack of competition between political parties that
stems from having First Past the Post.
Take telecoms for instance. Rogers, Bell and Telus have been ripping
us off for decades. There is broad consensus among Canadians of all
political stripes to address the aggressive price gouging of the
telcom monopoly yet our politicians sit on their hands! This is
clearly a winning issue, why doesn’t our government take action? There
isn’t enough competition among the parties to justify sticking their
neck out to address the problem. Politicians rely on media coverage
from these corporations in order to be elected and so passing
legislation that threatens Bell/Rogers/Telus profits would inevitably
lead to bad media coverage and electability problems. Apparently the
Liberal and Conservative leadership agree the political risk to their
parties is too high and with a lack of competition in First Past The
Post, that’s all that matters.
The true power of a fair voting system like Single Transferable Vote
is it increases competition among the political parties…just like how
fair regulations in the telecom industry would increase competition in
the telcom industry. Increased competition disincentivizes politicians
from fearmongering about their political rivals and encourages them to
run on actual policy. It rewards politicians who actually speak to
voters’ interests.
The way things are right now, most Liberals don’t vote for their party
out of love for the Liberals but because they fear Conservative
policies or doubt the NDP’s electability (or both). But if voters
didn’t have to consider how popular their true voting preference was,
political fear tactics would be much less effective.
In today’s political landscape with First Past the Post, politicians
are completely beholden to their parties because they can’t get
elected without the funding, resources, and brand recognition of their
party. They can’t go on a limb or make promises beyond the preapproved
party rhetoric – even if they’d like to or if it suited their
particular riding.
It happened to former ONDP MPP Paul Miller earlier this year. When he
was kicked out of the Ontario NDP he ran for reelection as an
independent…He and the replacement ONDP candidate split the vote and
they both lost to a Conservative candidate last June.
Here in Mississauga-Lakeshore, I am running against Kathleen Wynne’s
righthand man – the former Ontario Liberal Finance Minister Charles
Sousa. I went to high school with his kids and my parents have
campaigned for him in the past.
I invited Charles out to a quiet little bar in July of this year to
pick his brain for a couple hours about electoral reform, the OLP
leadership race and this by-election. We both learned a lot from the
conversation but one of my key takeaways was electoral reform wasn’t
something on his radar and he’d never heard of STV. But I’m sure
Charles understands electoral reform wouldn’t be in his best interests
as a Liberal partyman. He wouldn’t win a seat in this riding if voters
leaning NDP stuck to their guns. And I think he understands even if he
were a vocal proponent of electoral reform that Justin Trudeau already
poisoned the well reneging on the issue… so he would only lose
credibility if he ran on electoral reform because of his party
affiliation with Liberals.
Charles Sousa is running on a cookie cutter Liberal Party platform and
while I have a great deal of respect and gratitude for him, I’m
disappointed to tell you he isn’t running on any ideas of his own.
Of course, that’s nothing unusual in Canadian politics. Our
politicians vote with their party leaders 99% of the time and the
reason it isn’t 100% is because their voting records don’t match-up
when one of them is absent. With the way the votes are whipped in
government, a novice programmer could replace our representatives with
a single line of computer code so that their votes matched their party
leaders and the results would look the same.
If you haven’t noticed by now, I am a different breed of politician. I
think for myself and I put constituents interests first, not a party.
Which is something Charles Sousa claimed in the debate at the Army
Navy & Airforce Veterans Club on November 15th so I combed through
Charles Sousa’s Voting Record for us.
Charles, you have never once voted against your own party. Not even as
a token gesture to insulate yourself from being pegged as a blindly
obedient partyman. You were Wynne’s right hand man through and
through.
My fellow Mississaugians, if all you’re looking for is a man in a red
tie to sit with Justin Trudeau and obey the party whip – then Charles
is your guy. After 11 years of spineless party obedience there is no
expectation he will do anything differently as a federal MP.
My fellow Canadians, I am offering you the alternative you’ve been
asking for – an actual voice in your government.
I will hold monthly town halls in-person every month in the riding, so
you can put me on the spot, ask me hard questions and embarrass me in
public. They will be broadcast online. That’s what or municipal
leaders do (multiple times) every week. It’s not unrealistic.
I will write a weekly blog entry or vlog entry – something telling you
what I’ve been doing as your local representative.
I will tie 10% of my salary to my approval rating amongst my
constituents and I will pay for independent pollsters to determine
what my approval rating is.
If you want me to do something for you, I’m the only one you need to convince.
And I swear on my life I will fight for electoral reform.
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“That sounds pretty good Pete. But the only people who oppose
accountability of government are politicians. Where do you stand on
the actual issues? I can’t feed my family with electoral reform and
town halls.”
Let me be candid.
The economy is not working for ordinary Canadians. We have horrendous
inflation that is difficult to quantify, palpable corporate greed and
a central bank that literally advocates for increased unemployment as
a solution. Canadians are carrying record levels of debt.
First of all, I want to remind Canadians that they are less trapped
than they might feel. If the banks have loaned money irresponsibly
it’s the banks who should suffer. We enjoy one of the best passports
in the world and your credit rating will not follow you outside North
America. If things really go tits up, you aren’t trapped here like a
stadium-building-slave in Qatar. Your North American credit rating
will be absolved in seven years. But this is a cop-out answer. And I’m
being provocative on purpose here. I don’t think politicians are aware
how many Canadians, particularly people around my age, are seriously
considering leaving for greener pastures and taking their publicly
subsidized educations with them. There are real steps we can take to
improve the financial lives of Canadians living domestically. The most
obvious being to address the stagnant wages.
We’ve got to bring manufacturing back. This is a rare overlap between
Biden and Trump. We cannot depend on China. We must invest in Canadian
manufacturing and reignite bigger projects like Avro Arrow.
We have a lot of notorious monopolies in Canada. Bashing
Rogers-Bell-Telus is a national pastime. Have you heard the story of
Sasktel? It’s not a story the (telecommunication owned) corporate
media would tell you… Sasktel is a telecommunications company owned by
the province of Saskatchewan that is priced so low that Rogers, Bell &
Telus have resigned to offer their usual cellphone plans at a fraction
of their usual price for users signing-up inside Saskatchewan’s
borders. Rogers isn’t violating their fiduciary responsibilities by
slashing their prices to Saskatchewanians…they must do it in order to
compete at all. This is market socialism.
We can copy this model in Ontario or even nationally. And if Rogers
doesn’t like it, they should look in the mirror because they’ll have
brought it on themselves. Furthermore, our reliance on cell phones in
society has reached the point where they need to be recategorized as a
utility (along with home internet).
Speaking of monopolies and market socialism, we should be considering
government owned grocery stores too. The government needs revenue, and
the market needs more competition.
In the past I have been in favour of Liberal gun control policy but
it’s already pretty good and the recently proposed legislation
affecting rifle owners strikes me as overreach.
If the federal government wants to address gun violence, gangs and
organized crime it should primarily be focusing on the economic and
social conditions that lead people to commit crimes.
Additionally, the federal government needs to seriously reexamine the
tax rate and pricing of legal marijuana. Weed is the backbone of the
Canadian black market. And if legal weed is actually competitive with
the online black market, dispensaries and drug dealers, then the
funding and violence associated with organized crime will dramatically
diminish. But there’s a lot more to the black market than just pot.
None of the parties have a plan to tackle the opioid epidemic. It’s as
if they’d rather we stop talking about it. In my view, drug addiction
should be treated as a health problem not a criminal problem. We’re
wasting tax dollars prosecuting minor drug possession and throwing
addicts in jail. I think Canadian politicians should be debating the
merits of Portugal’s drug policy and adopting similar legislation that
levies fines, mandates addiction treatments, counseling, or community
service on a case-by-case basis for small amounts of drug possession.
Dealers trafficking hard drugs still deserve harsh punishments.
Portugal’s drug policy was highly controversial and experimental back
in 2001 but today it’s supposedly political suicide to suggest
reverting back to the old ways.
It’s ironic my last name is House because I sure can’t afford one. I’m
living with my parents right now. Canadians are being gouged on rent
and the affordability of owning a house has escalated to a nationwide
crisis. I am a stick framer and contractor myself so I know the cost
of timber and building supplies has spiked. But it’s the overheated
real estate market that has made housing prohibitively expensive.
Speculative investors are buying up properties faster than we can
build them so we can’t build our way out of the problem without
additional legislation that shields the housing market from
speculative investors. Additionally, we need a lot more non-market
housing.
The Liberal government proposes we bring in an additional 500,000
immigrants by 2025. I’m not so sure that’s a good thing and I am not a
bigot. Where are they going to live? Where are they going to work? If
we can’t answer these questions for existing Canadians what hope do
new immigrants have? I oppose the Temporary Foreign Worker program
because it undercuts the value of Canadian labour and is a significant
factor in our incredibly stagnant wages. We already have high
unemployment that the Bank of Canada proposes we only increase! The
opportunities in Canada are not what the once were even a decade ago
and I worry we are falsely advertising to immigrants.
Identity politics is a hot button issue. Canada is seen as exemplary
on the international stage when it comes to combating racism, sexism
and bigotry by and large…but bigotry unfortunately is alive and well
in Canada. I don’t buy-in to the “cultural mosaic” rhetoric and I
suspect our indigenous communities know what I’m talking about when I
say there is a mainstream culture that is not as inclusive as it
claims to be. While we have our differences with the Americans we
largely share a culture with the USA. The thing about identity
politics though is it serves to divide us. Regardless of who we are as
individuals, we have more in common with one another than the
political culture in North America would have us believe. I mentioned
I used to be the President of the NDP Riding Association here in
Mississauga-Lakeshore and a big part of the reason I stepped down was
because I felt the party had put identity politics optics ahead of its
labour worker priorities. That might not be self-evident from the
outside but internally within the NDP it’s quite pronounced. And the
same is true for the Liberals (but that’s nothing new). Even if you
agree with their priorities, it’s an electability problem for the
left-wing parties in Canada. So if you feel as I do that political
parties are a means to end for enacting political change, I think our
leftwing parties in Canada need to reexamine their emphasis on
identity politics so they can build a winning coalition.
I am an environmentalist. Environment and Resource Studies was
initially my major at the University of Waterloo. But we are a nation
whose economy is largely build upon resource extraction and the real
challenge to reversing climate change is squaring that circle. I have
mixed feelings about pipeline discussions for that reason. There are
obvious political advantages to supplying ourselves and our trading
partners with oil that the war in Ukraine highlights. (Germany
definitely regrets being so reliant on Russian oil.) I would like to
see refineries inside Canada instead of enriching America with our
resources. We need to get real about climate change though. Given that
heat pumps have more than 100% efficiency (shocking but true) and are
just air conditioners running in reverse, I propose we subsidize the
sales of air conditioners equipped with the additional plumbing and
valves needed to use them as heat pumps. And I’m considering whether
or not we should ban the sales of air conditioners without heat pump
capabilities. “Heat pumps are a proven and reliable technology in
Canada, capable of providing year-round comfort control for your
home.” On the subject of waste, we need to challenge corporations on
their packaging of products to reduce waste. Recycling is
overemphasized. Our technology to recycle isn’t actually very good and
when we talk about consumer recycling, we are letting the corporations
that package all this stuff in plastic off the hook. Nuclear power
*is* green along with wind, solar and hydro. We will need nuclear
energy to meet our climate goals. And of course, one of the most
obvious solutions to climate change is to fund the heck out of rapid
transit to reduce our dependency on fossil fuels. Every politician
talks about rapid transit now.
Continuing to expand public transit infrastructure has lots of
political will, even among conservatives. But our public transit
sucks. Mississauga in particular has terribly slow transit, with
incredibly indirect routes and city planning that’s hostile to
pedestrians and transit users. Our transit doesn’t connect people to
where they want to go and it’s because we don’t design our cities to
have public transit. They’re designed for cars. We just slap a bus
route down because we’ve heard public transit reduces CO^2 emissions.
If you want to get from Lorne Park to Hwy 10 & the QEW it will take
you about an hour because it’s not a continuous route, and the *buses*
don’t utilize the QEW which means having to go down to Lakeshore to
cross the Credit River. Meanwhile it’s a 10 minute drive by car.
Mississauga’s transit system has routes that are too short and that
don’t connect the boroughs of Mississauga together without detouring
into the middle of the city at Square One. In Waterloo though, there
are some staple bus routes like the “8” that circulates through the
entire city that can connect you to basically any other part of the
city regardless of where you started and where you are going.
Kitchener-Waterloo also redesigned the downtown to implement LRT
infrastructure to replace the old iExpress bus route. Mississauga’s
geography is admittedly more challenging but the problem is poor city
planning. I’m a big proponent of rapid transit but we need city
planning to enable public transportation to succeed.
Healthcare is a point of national pride. While it is provincial
jurisdiction the covid pandemic and vaccination mandates were national
issues. I don’t like needles and I don’t like the pharmaceutical
industry. Nevertheless, I’m quadruple vaxxed and I actually still
haven’t caught covid. Scientists, doctors and our political leaders
were right to advocate for vaccines. However, I question the manner in
which some of these vaccine mandates were passed into legislation and
whether or not they were infringing on Canadian rights. Maybe the ends
do justify the means but from a rights perspective I question if our
government actually had the power to restrict Canadians in some of the
manners it did. The trucker convoy tapped into a real dissatisfaction
among Canadians and I think if our federal government was more
consistent with covid restrictions and on more solid legal ground to
restrict Canadians, the optics and the outcomes of our vaccination
strategy would have been much better. I don’t support the convoy and
I’m not a legal scholar but I did sympathize with some of their
concerns.
While we’re on the subject of healthcare, Doug Ford and other
Conservative premiers are letting our public healthcare systems fail
in an attempt to garner public support for privatization of
healthcare. I believe this is probably the biggest political issue in
Canada at the moment although wage stagnation certainly gives it a run
for its money.
Lastly, I want to talk about education. Which again is predominantly
provincial jurisdiction but remember that a large part of our student
loans come from the *federal* government. Post-secondary education has
been way too expensive for way too long. We are saddling our young
people with debt in a job market that doesn’t even value their degrees
or justify the cost. Meanwhile our universities are making a killing.
I’ve heard the engineering dept at the University of Waterloo pulls in
half a billion each year but you won’t find that figure published
anywhere. South of the border, Americans are inching close to
*cancelling* a significant amount of student debt and frankly I’m
shocked that it’s not even being debated in Canadian government. Since
when were the Americans more progressive than we were? University
tuitions continue to climb and the quality and value of their
credentials is falling. During covid, tuitions for online classes –
which were obviously of a lower quality than in-person instruction
with our peers – were not discounted and the primary justification for
this was that universities did not want to set a precedent for
reducing tuition prices. Our federal and provincial governments use
students as political pawns but they don’t consider students a
significant enough portion of their voting base to actually cater to
them. We need to lower tuition fees and threaten to remove government
funding for universities if they continue to gouge Canadians.
Alright, so I’ve now given a *much* more comprehensive platform than
the Conservatives. I’m a leftie but I have sympathies with the
rightwing. The core of my platform is electoral reform (STV) and
accountability of government and the only people on the other side of
those issues are the existing politicians.
I may not have great chances in this by-election running as an
independent but with the existing make-up of the House of Commons this
by-election is very inconsequential so there will be far less
‘strategic’ voting which should boost my numbers.
I am looking ahead to the Ontario Liberal Leadership race in the new
year and I’d like to leave you with a few thoughts about that. The OLP
is a rudderless party of stale ideas and it’s prime for a Bernie
Sanders style takeover. This is an incredible opportunity! I plan to
run on this platform for the OLP leadership. But instead of courting
the existing Liberal loyalists, my strategy will be to court the ocean
of dissatisfied Ontarians and transform the party into something
sensible that actually represents Ontarians – including young people.
I’ll be crowdfunding the $100k required by the OLP to enter the race.
I will reduce party discipline so our representatives can put their
ridings’ interests before party interests. And I’d like to coordinate
with the future ONDP leader so we work together to defeat Doug Ford. I
think both parties should consider running less than the full 124
candidates in the next election so they aren’t stepping on each
other’s toes. And if none of that pans out I would go back to building
the Electoral Reform Party so that Ontarians have a voice in
government.
Show your support for me in this by-election and I’ll be a serious
threat to the OLP establishment in the Ontario Liberal Leadership race
in the new year.
Peter House
Independent Candidate for MP of Mississauga-Lakeshore
(647) 471-0717
peter@peterhouse.ca
tl;dr – I have an unusually sensible approach to politics and
accountability. This post is way too long because I’ve taken nuanced
positions on well over a dozen issues in an attempt to illustrate what
I’m about beyond a surface level. Show your support for me in this
by-election and I’ll be a serious threat to the OLP establishment in
the Ontario Liberal Leadership race in the new year.
Published by Peter, in Posts.
https://www.hilltimes.com/
‘Too close to call’: Forty-candidate Ontario byelection will pit Katie
Telford against Jenni Byrne for best ground game, say pollsters
Insiders will be watching whether Pierre Poilievre's team can take
tools from landslide leadership win 'to become similarly strong in a
real campaign where it's the general public, and a lot more voters,'
says Innovative Research's Greg Lyle.
The Mississauga-Lakeshore byelection is a contest between Team Katie
Telford and Team Jenni Byrne’s organizational prowess, says pollster
Greg Lyle, adding that the ground game will decide the outcome. The
Hill Times file photographs
https://338canada.com/35061e.
Mississauga–Lakeshore (federal)
MP: Sven Spengemann (LPC)
Latest projection: December 11, 2022
https://globalnews.ca/news/
What could an Ontario byelection say about Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre?
By Stephanie Taylor The Canadian Press
Posted December 10, 2022 10:06 am
What could an Ontario byelection say about Conservative Leader Pierre
Poilievre? | Globalnews.ca
Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre arrives to Parliament Hill in
Ottawa, on Wednesday, Nov. 30, 2022. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Sean
Kilpatrick
OTTAWA — Three months ago, Pierre Poilievre proved he was the populist
fighter Conservatives wanted in the next federal election, winning the
party’s leadership contest in a landslide.
But how much is he fighting to win over the first of the country’s
voters to have their say during his tenure?
On Monday, people living in the Greater Toronto Area riding of
Mississauga-Lakeshore will be able to vote in a federal byelection
triggered by the resignation of former Liberal MP Sven Spengemann.
Despite saying that it’s time for change, federal Conservatives have
been quick to dampen expectations for the contest — and any suggestion
that its outcome is a reflection of Poilievre’s early leadership, or
his message to Canadians.
For one thing, they cite an anticipated low voter turnout, with two
weeks left until Christmas. Poilievre has also been busy staffing the
party and his office on Parliament Hill. And the Liberals have held
the riding for the past three elections, though Stephen Harper’s
Conservatives won it in 2011.
But the biggest hurdle many trot out is the opponent Conservatives are
up against. That’s former Ontario finance minister Charles Sousa, who
represented a Mississauga riding for the provincial Liberals until his
defeat in 2018. The Tories nominated Ron Chhinzer, a local police
officer with a considerably lower profile.
Even Poilievre himself has laid low. A scan of his social media
channels on Friday found no mention of the byelection or evidence of
his presence in the riding, although some members of Parliament have
visited.
Poilievre’s office didn’t respond to a question about whether he plans
to campaign with Chhinzer. As of Friday, Poilievre was in Atlantic
Canada.
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United Nations
Conservative political strategist Shakir Chambers said a win for
Chhinzer would be an obvious show of momentum for Poilievre in a
region where the Tories want to find success. But if it goes the other
way, he said, one takeaway could be a lesson about Poilievre’s message
delivery.
“When you look at the 905, the Mississauga area and the Brampton area,
a lot of those folks can go either way at any time,” he said.
“It’s very important for folks to realize what Pierre is talking
about, where he stands on certain issues, and not take it for granted
that he’s this household name because he had a lot of momentum in the
leadership race.”
During the 2021 federal election, Conservatives lost the riding by
fewer than 4,000 votes. Erin O’Toole had targeted it and other
Toronto-area ridings by preaching a moderate conservative message —
but it came up short with both prospective new voters and party
faithful.
Having won the leadership with more support than the party’s past two
leaders, Poilievre enjoys a much more unified caucus. But he has
eschewed the conventional way of spreading his message, rarely
speaking with national media.
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Poilievre ridicules recent reports of RCMP contract being awarded to
company with alleged Chinese ties
He has also opted to give interviews to smaller outlets, such as local
radio stations and media that serve members of the country’s immigrant
and racialized communities in and around Toronto and Vancouver —
demographics Conservatives know they must win over if they want to
form the next government.
Overall, it’s an unprecedented way of doing things, Chambers said, and
he questioned whether it will translate for a national audience. “Is
this an effective strategy in a general kind of capacity? Or was it
only good when you were talking to the (party’s) base?”
Philippe Fournier of 338Canada, a statistical model of electoral
projection based on polls, demographics and election history, said
Poilievre appears to be “preaching to the converted” with that
approach.
“The Conservatives, if they want to win — it’s not getting two or
three points in front of the Liberals, it’s getting two or three
points in front of the Liberals in the suburbs, or in urban Canada,”
he said. “And so far, we see no indication that that’s the case.”
Ginny Roth, who was Poilievre’s communications director during the
leadership campaign, defended the strategy, saying the leader is not
“dogmatic” about who he speaks to. She pointed to the fact that he
recently fielded questions about inflation outside the House of
Commons — though his appearance in front of parliamentary reporters
has so far been rare.
Poilievre has got mixed reviews for the issues he has chosen to
highlight in the early days of his leadership and in the lead-up to
the first federal contest during his tenure.
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A go-to topic has been inflation, a subject popular with all
opposition parties as the country sees record-high inflation and
economic anxieties increase. Poilievre is a fiscal hawk, having served
as a longtime finance critic for the party.
He has also been speaking out about crime and has vocally opposed
Liberal gun legislation intended to permanently outlaw some types of
firearms.
In November, Poilievre broadened his message to state that “everything
feels broken,” putting out a five-minute video filmed in front of a
homeless encampment in Vancouver. In the ad, Poilievre said the policy
of delivering toxic drug users a safe supply of opioids is a “failed
experiment.”
The controversial position drew swift condemnation from drug policy
experts and Liberal MPs, who said it was unscientific and even
dangerous amid Canada’s ongoing overdose crisis.
Roth cautioned that Poilievre’s message should not be dismissed out of
hand, saying that his political talent is being able to relate to
Canadians and speak to how they really feel about issues.
And longtime Conservative Fraser Macdonald said some of Poilievre’s
rhetoric has been a welcome shift away from pandemic-related
grievances.
“I’m certainly happy to hear less about issues like vaccines and sort
of the niche issues of the COVID era,” said Macdonald, who worked on
the campaign of distant runner-up Jean Charest.
“Having just been smoked by them in a leadership race, I’m totally
open to giving them a very long runway.”
Though Poilievre has steered clear of mentioning Alberta Premier
Danielle Smith’s controversial sovereignty bill, he has maintained his
support for the “Freedom Convoy” protesters who staged a weeks-long
demonstration in downtown Ottawa last winter in opposition to COVID-19
restrictions, with their parked trucks blocking the streets around
Parliament Hill.
He qualified that support recently by telling The Andrew Lawton Show
that “my preference would have been for them to be on foot and to park
their trucks off site.”
Le lun. 14 nov. 2022, à 17 h 27, David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
a écrit :
> SIMON GNOCCHINI-MESSIER
> Candidate for the Leadership of the Green Party of Canada
> Cell phone: 450-577-4227
> Email: info@simongmessier.ca
> Website: www.simongmessier.ca
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: "MinFinance / FinanceMin (FIN)" <
> fin.minfinance-financemin.fin@
> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 20:55:38 +0000
> Subject: RE: Yo Bill Morneau I have been challenged to make Federal
> Case out of asserting my Right of Access to Health Care
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
> The Department of Finance acknowledges receipt of your electronic
> correspondence. Please be assured that we appreciate receiving your
> comments.
>
> Le ministère des Finances accuse réception de votre correspondance
> électronique. Soyez assuré(e) que nous apprécions recevoir vos
> commentaires.
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>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: "Gallant, Premier Brian (PO/CPM)" <Brian.Gallant@gnb.ca>
> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 20:55:41 +0000
> Subject: RE: Yo Bill Morneau I have been challenged to make Federal
> Case out of asserting my Right of Access to Health Care
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
> Thank you for writing to the Premier of New Brunswick. Please be
> assured that your email has been received and it will be reviewed. If
> a response is requested, it will be forthcoming.
>
> Nous vous remercions d’avoir communiqué avec le premier ministre du
> Nouveau-Brunswick. Soyez assuré(e) que votre courriel a bien été
> reçu, qu’il sera examiné et qu’une réponse vous parviendra à sa
> demande.
>
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2017 09:45:24 -0400
> Subject: Fwd: Yo Bill Morneau I have been challenged to make Federal
> Case out of asserting my Right of Access to Health Care
> To: asilnicki@healthcoalition.ca
> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>
> http://www.healthcoalition.ca/
>
> Canadian Health Coalition
> 251 Bank Street, Suite 212
> Ottawa, Ontario K2P 1X3
> (613) 688-4973
>
> Send your feedback to: hello@healthcoalition.ca
> Media Inquiries: asilnicki@healthcoalition.ca
>
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/
>
> New Brunswick slammed as 'grinch that stole' a national health accord
> Canadian Health Coalition 'discouraged' by bilateral deal, but
> Canadian Medical Association 'pleased'
>
> By Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon, CBC News Posted: Dec 22, 2016 6:15 PM AT
> "The Canadian Health Coalition wants the federal, provincial and
> territorial governments to return to the table and work out a national
> health accord, says national co-ordinator Adrienne Silnicki.
> (Twitter/Adrienne Silnicki)"
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 16:55:21 -0400
> Subject: Yo Bill Morneau I have been challenged to make Federal Case
> out of asserting my Right of Access to Health Care
> To: "Bill.Morneau" <Bill.Morneau@canada.ca>, "Cathy.Rogers"
> <Cathy.Rogers@gnb.ca>, bruno.battistini@nbhrf.com, premier
> <premier@gov.pe.ca>, gopublic <gopublic@cbc.ca>, "steve.murphy"
> <steve.murphy@ctv.ca>, csousa.mpp.co@liberal.ola.org, premier
> <premier@gov.yk.ca>, rosemary.barton@cbc.ca, ministre@msss.gouv.qc.ca,
> minhsal@leg.gov.mb.ca, premier <premier@gov.sk.ca>, premier
> <premier@gov.ab.ca>, PREMIER <PREMIER@gov.ns.ca>, premier
> <premier@gov.nl.ca>, premier <premier@gov.bc.ca>, premier
> <premier@gnb.ca>, "victor.boudreau" <victor.boudreau@gnb.ca>,
> "brian.gallant" <brian.gallant@gnb.ca>, briangallant10
> <briangallant10@gmail.com>, BrianThomasMacdonald
> <BrianThomasMacdonald@gmail.
> <jake.stewart@gnb.ca>, jbosnitch@gmail.com, oldmaison
> <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, andre <andre@jafaust.com>, sallybrooks25
> <sallybrooks25@yahoo.ca>, "sally.gomery"
> <sally.gomery@
> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> <hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca>, "hon.melanie.joly"
> <hon.melanie.joly@canada.ca>, "Hon.Dominic.LeBlanc"
> <Hon.Dominic.LeBlanc@canada.ca
>
>
> http://davidraymondamos3.
>
> Tuesday, 20 December 2016
> I have been challenged to make Federal Case out of asserting my Right
> of Access to Health Care
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: David Amos
> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 12:03:38 -0400
> Subject: I just called for the last time about my right to Health Care
> Services just like Chucky "Cry Baby" Leblanc and every other Canadian
> Citizen has
> To: Hon.Jane.Philpott@canada.ca, gregory.taylor@phac-aspc.gc.ca
> "victor.boudreau" , jennifer.russell@gnb.ca, cristin.muecke@gnb.ca,
> Tom.Maston@gnb.ca, "Terry.Keating" , "Gilles.Blinn" , ombudsman ,
> "Mark.Blakely" , Annie.Guitard@gnb.ca, "serge.rousselle" , premier ,
> "blaine.higgs" , briangallant10 , "brian.gallant" , pm ,
> "Katie.Telford" , "Gerald.Butts" , "rona.ambrose" , MulcaT , leader ,
> "Davidc.Coon" , "Bill.Casey" , "Matt.DeCourcey"
> Cc: David Amos , Gerald Bourque , oldmaison , andre , GillesLee ,
> "leanne.murray" , "Leanne.Fitch" , dg
>
> Hon.Jane.Philpott
> Minister of Health
> 70 Colombine Driveway,
> Tunney's Pasture
> Postal Location: 0906C
> Ottawa, Ontario
> K1A 0K9
> Telephone: 613-957-0200
> Fax: 613-952-1154
> Hon.Jane.Philpott@Canada.ca
>
> Victor Boudreau
> Minister of Health
> HSBC Place
> Floor: 5
> P. O. Box 5100
> Fredericton, NB
> E3B 5G8
>
> Whereas Harper and his cohorts in the RCMP had no problem using the
> DECH services against me in 2008, What is the Liberals problem in
> providing me with the same service over the past year since since they
> won the government mandate?
>
> Here how your blogging butt buddy Chucky and your Fake Left pals had a
> lot of fun violating my privacy and teasing me about that fact in 2008
> CORRECT Mr Andre Faust? Who are you to ask such ridiculous questions
> about it again this month?
>
> AMOS PICKED UP BY THE R.C.M.P.???
> Charles LeBlanc's Other blog
> July 8th, 2008
>
> I don't know if this is a joke?
>
> I'm not a David Amos fan but this email was sent to me last week.
>
>
> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.
>
> The RCMP in Fat Fred City Pt 1
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?
>
> Speak of the Devil and Cst. Mark Blakely of the RCMP appears
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?
>
> RCMP Sussex New Brunswick
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?
>
> January 30, 2007
>
> WITHOUT PREJUDICE
>
> Mr. David Amos
>
> Dear Mr. Amos:
>
> This will acknowledge receipt of a copy of your e-mail of December 29,
> 2006 to Corporal Warren McBeath of the RCMP.
>
> Because of the nature of the allegations made in your message, I have
> taken the measure of forwarding a copy to Assistant Commissioner Steve
> Graham of the RCMP °J" Division in Fredericton.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Honourable Michael B. Murphy
> Minister of Health
>
> CM/cb
>
> CLEARLY THE RCMP/GRC AND THE KPMG PALS DO NOT KNOW
> HOW TO READ LET ALONE COUNT BEANS EH?
>
> Warren McBeath warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca wrote:
>
> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:34:53 -0500
> From: "Warren McBeath" warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
> To: kilgoursite@ca.inter.net, MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca,
> nada.sarkis@gnb.ca, wally.stiles@gnb.ca, dwatch@web.net,
> motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
> CC: ottawa@chuckstrahl.com, riding@chuckstrahl.com,
> John.Foran@gnb.ca, Oda.B@parl.gc.ca,
> "Bev BUSSON" bev.busson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
> "Paul Dube" PAUL.DUBE@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
> Subject: Re: Remember me Kilgour? Landslide Annie McLellan has
> forgotten me but the crooks within the RCMP have n
>
> Dear Mr. Amos,
>
> Thank you for your follow up e-mail to me today. I was on days off
> over the holidays and returned to work this evening. Rest assured I
> was not ignoring or procrastinating to respond to your concerns.
>
> As your attachment sent today refers from Premier Graham, our position
> is clear on your dead calf issue: Our forensic labs do not process
> testing on animals in cases such as yours, they are referred to the
> Atlantic Veterinary College in Charlottetown who can provide these
> services. If you do not choose to utilize their expertise in this
> instance, then that is your decision and nothing more can be done.
>
> As for your other concerns regarding the US Government, false
> imprisonment and Federal Court Dates in the US, etc... it is clear
> that Federal authorities are aware of your concerns both in Canada and
> the US. These issues do not fall into the purvue of Detachment
> policing in Petitcodiac, NB.
>
> It was indeed an interesting and informative conversation we had on
> December 23rd, and I wish you well in all of your future endeavors.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Warren McBeath, Cpl.
> GRC Caledonia RCMP
> Traffic Services NCO
> Ph: (506) 387-2222
> Fax: (506) 387-4622
> E-mail warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/
>
> 1788 Comments Commenting is now closed for this story.
>
>
> albert franken
> That $5billion Justin left at the UN would sure come in handy here.
> 1 day ago
>
> David Raymond Amos
> Content disabled.
> @albert franken It does matter much to me the smiling bastards won't
> even give me a health care card
> 21 hours ago
>
> David Raymond Amos
> @David Raymond Amos We all know why the CROWN Corp commonly known as
> the CBC blocked my last comment it is because I am about to make a
> Federal case of that simple irrefutable statement.
>
> After all as a Canadian citizen I am entitled to the same access to
> Health Care as Jane Philpott, Bill Morneau, Prime Minister Trudeau
> "The Younger", Victor Boudreau, Cathy Roger Premier Gallant and you
> receive N'esy Pas Hubby Lacroix and Minister Joly?
> 9 hours ago
>
> John Templar
> @David Raymond Amos they're turned into a communist state entity ala the
> bbc.
> 8 hours ago
>
> David Raymond Amos
> @John Templar communist or not I know that the CBC has always been
> that way. If they are remotely ethical CBC moderators should not block
> this comment. I am providing links to CBC's work not mine as a
> blogger.
>
> FYI I ran for public office five times and the lawyer Harper appointed
> Hubby Lacroix knows his minions denied that I was on the ballot five
> times. See for yourself.
>
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/
>
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/
>
> Only after the election was history and I had read the lawyer Hubby
> Lacroix the riot act Go figure why I am mentioned then
>
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/
> 7 hours ago
>
> David Raymond Amos
> Content disabled.
> @David Raymond Amos I do declare its rather hard to respond to other
> folks comments directed at me when I don't know or quite sometime if
> the CBC moderators have allowed my last comment to be posted. Then if
> my comment is allowed it is usually buried by a host of other comments
> so I wind up responding to myself once I do see that my comment was
> allowed.
>
> A good example happened within this thread. I commented and I was
> blocked. Hence I did not bother to waste time commenting on a topic
> that I knew for certain that CBC would block for the benefit of their
> friends in the other Crown Corp the RCMP. At least I know for a fact
> that the non union RCMP and the the unionized CBC know I know a lot
> about this topic and their evil bosses appointed by Harper Paulson and
> Lacroix have ordered them all to ignore me or they will be chastised.
> So much for ethical cops and journalists who are well paid by our tax
> dollars to tell us the truth EH?
>
> Please read this greedy nonsense and laugh as hard as I did (As man
> who used to own his own business and employed other I earned the right
> long ago to be disgusted by the greed of our public servants) .
>
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/
>
> Need I said I considered the latest RCMP lawsuit by a greedy member to
> be a monumental joke on us all? So instead of commenting I opted to
> send an email about it to the lawyers etc. Then I will publish the
> aforementioned email I have yet to compose in the same blog that I am
> posting all my comments (the blocked one was published first) about my
> concerns about my right to Health Care as the mindless Finance
> Ministers argue about OUR tax money rightfully coming back to the
> provinces in order to pay for our Health Care. Confused?Trust I am NOT
> 4 hours ago
>
>
> David Raymond Amos
> Content disabled.
> @David Raymond Amos Seems that the CBC moderators are blowing hot and
> cold today EH? Now your minions are blocking me AGAIN for no reason
> anyone ethical would understand N'esy Pas Hubby Hubby Lacroix amd
> Minister Joly?
>
> Watch out for my latest blog and Tweets about your malicious actions.
>
> It has been blatantly obvious to me for quite sometime that
> these are union people do not mind me embarrassing the Hell out of
> their management but if I say anything that may embarrass their union
> unions or their beloved NDP I am blocked in a heartbeat.Trust that I
> will do my best to see that your moderators are and sue their fancy
> pants off.
>
> CBC demands that I post my comments in a website supported by my tax
> dollars in my true name .I do and I am very aware that I can be sued
> and or prosecuted under Section 300 of the Canadian Criminal Code if
> what I say is untrue and libelous. Yet CBC moderators employed by "We
> The People" block their fellow Canadians (Not just Mean old me) for
> political reasons anonymously?
>
> Well at least I know who all the CBC lawyers are CORRECT Alex
> Johnston? It is you people who must answer for the malice CBC has
> practiced against me since 2002 and identify your moderators as well
> EH?
> 1 hour ago
>
>
> David Raymond Amos
> Content disabled.
> @David Raymond Amos
>
> ENJOY YA BASTARDS
>
>
> http://davidraymondamos3.
>
> https://twitter.com/
> 1 hour ago
>
> Ottawa, provinces fail to reach a deal on health spending
> Ottawa offers $11.5B over 10 years for targeted priorities, but
> provinces want higher annual transfers
> By John Paul Tasker, CBC News Posted: Dec 19, 2016 2:07 PM ET
>
> Finance Minister Bill Morneau bows his head during a news conference
> with Minister of Health Jane Philpott following the Finance Ministers
> meeting in Ottawa, Monday, Dec. 19, 2016.
> Finance Minister Bill Morneau bows his head during a news conference
> with Minister of Health Jane Philpott following the Finance Ministers
> meeting in Ottawa, Monday, Dec. 19, 2016. (Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press)
>
> Ottawa and the provinces have failed to reach a deal on health-care
> funding, despite a $11.5-billion pledge by the federal government to
> boost targeted spending on home care and mental health.
>
> The federal government has now taken that offer off the table, Finance
> Minister Bill Morneau said Monday, and the Canada Health Transfer
> (CHT) spending increase will revert to 3 per cent a year as of April
> 1, 2017.
>
> Morneau had told the provinces he was willing to grow that key federal
> transfer by 3.5 per cent each year over the next five years — at a
> value of roughly $20 billion — but the provinces balked.
>
> "We came to the provinces with a significant offer of funds ... We're
> disappointed we weren't successful," Morneau told reporters.
>
> Jane Philpott, Canada's health minister, said the federal government's
> money could have made a real difference in the lives of many
> Canadians.
>
> "I woke up this morning feeling very hopeful, thinking about half a
> million kids that are waiting for care for mental health services and
> hoping to be able to give them good news today," she said.
>
> "We're disappointed that the provinces and territories did not feel
> like they could accept this offer and that they couldn't find ways to
> use these resources immediately, to be able to get care out to
> Canadians."
>
> Health Transfers 20161219
> Finance Minister Bill Morneau and Health Minister Jane Philpott listen
> to a question during a news conference following the Finance Ministers
> meeting in Ottawa, Monday, Dec. 19, 2016. (Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press)
>
> Ontario Finance Minister Charles Sousa said while the provinces
> rejected the federal funding plan, it was Morneau who was responsible
> for ending the meeting early.
>
> "There was an urgency to close the meeting off. We're here, we desire
> an agreement, we need to come to a conclusion. Why have anybody attend
> if there's nothing to negotiate or discuss?" Sousa said, adding Ottawa
> wasn't willing to listen to evidence that its proposed funding plan
> would imperil the country's health-care system.
>
> Ottawa brought ultimatum, not a deal: Manitoba health minister
> Provinces take aim at health care 'ultimatum'
>
>
> He said the proposed $11.5-billion funding boost is the equivalent of
> just three months of health spending.
>
> P.E.I. Premier Wade MacLauchlan said the federal government refused to
> accept a counter-offer of growing the health escalator by 5.2 per cent
> a year, and had a "take it or leave it" approach to negotiations.
>
> Now, the provinces will leave with no more money for health care than
> when they arrived in Ottawa on Sunday for the renewed health accord
> talks.
>
> Media placeholder
> Philpott on failed health negotiations0:42
>
> Liberals sticking with Harper's escalator
>
> The provinces and territories have enjoyed six per cent year-over-year
> growth in transfers from the federal government since the last health
> accord was reached with former prime minister Paul Martin in 2004.
>
> Former finance minister Jim Flaherty unilaterally changed funding
> increases to either match the rate of GDP growth or three per cent a
> year — whichever is greater. (The funding change will take effect next
> year.)
>
> Provincial and territorial health ministers have presented a united
> front against Ottawa's insistence that the annualized increase is a
> "reasonable escalator," saying that rate is too low to keep pace with
> a rapidly aging population.
>
> What's at stake with today's Health Accord funding talks?
> Health care funding talks turn hostile amid walkout threats
>
>
> "This was an historic offer," Philpott said, adding the 3.5 per cent
> figure is higher than GDP growth, inflation, and provincial health
> spending over the past five years.
>
> "I think there is widespread agreement that the systems themselves
> need some transformation, and we're going to continue to look for ways
> to do that," she said.
>
> Philpott has said that Ottawa wants to extract greater efficiencies
> from provinces that have seen substantial funding increases for health
> care over the past 12 years with few meaningful improvements to health
> outcomes and wait times.
>
> The federal government's last offer to the provinces included $6
> billion for home care, with $1 billion of that money set aside for
> home-care infrastructure, and a further $5 billion towards spending on
> mental health services over the next decade.
>
> The government was also offering an additional $544 million over five
> years in funding for unspecified provincial and territorial
> prescription drug initiatives, and "health innovation."
>
> Media placeholder
> Ontario explains health accord failure1:55
>
> 'We have work to do,' P.E.I. premier says
>
> MacLauchlan said the provinces have been asking for a first ministers'
> meeting on health care spending with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau,
> but have repeatedly been rebuffed.
>
> That sort of roundtable is now more important than ever before,
> MacLauchlan said, and the premiers would like to convene such a
> meeting early in the new year.
>
> Health Transfers 20161219
> Surrounded by Yukon Premier Sandy Silver, left, Northwest Territories
> Premier Bob McLeod, second from right, and provincial health and
> finance ministers, P.E.I. Premier Wade MacLauchlan speaks about health
> funding following a meeting with their federal counterparts in Ottawa,
> Monday, Dec. 19, 2016. (Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press)
>
> He said failing to agree to such a meeting would fly in the face of
> Trudeau's campaign promise to engage in "collaborative federalism."
>
> "We do not believe that, as of the end of the day today, that we're at
> an impasse, we have work to do," he said.
>
> What is the Health Accord and what's at stake in today's talks?
> Provinces take aim at health care 'ultimatum'
> Finance minister to provinces: More health money, but deal must be
> reached Monday
>
>
> In an interview with Rosemary Barton on CBC's Power & Politics after
> the meeting, New Brunswick appeared to break ranks.
>
> Finance Minister Cathy Rogers said New Brunswick would be interested
> in a "bilateral" health agreement with the federal government.
>
> Media placeholder
> New Brunswick: 'we intend to pursue opportunities for a bilateral
> agreement' with federal government5:58
>
> Federal and provincial finance ministers kicked off meetings in Ottawa
> with a working dinner last night and were joined by health ministers
> this morning.
>
> Threats of walk out over 'ridiculous' offer
>
> Quebec Health Minister Gaétan Barrette earlier threatened to walk out
> of the meetings if the federal government doesn't put more money on
> the table.
>
> "This is not a negotiation process; this is an ultimatum," Barrette
> said before the day-long talks between federal and provincial finance
> and health ministers got underway.
>
> "We cannot resolve that over a one-day period ... and we will walk
> away if the proposal doesn't change."
> On the way in to Monday's meeting, Philpott talked about the federal
> government's desire to target funding for home care and mental health.
>
> Finance Ministers 20161219
> Manitoba Health Minister Kelvin Goertzen, centre-left, Quebec Health
> Minister Gaetan Barrette, centre right, and other provincial health
> ministers angrily rejected an earlier proposal by the federal
> government, saying the offer was ridiculous. (Adrian Wyld/Canadian
> Press)
>
> She said there are 500,000 Canadians who are not able to go to work
> because they are mentally ill, while more than 15 per cent of patients
> in hospital beds are occupied by people who could actually be at home
> or in the community.
>
> "The kind of money we're putting on the table today for the provinces
> and territories means that we will able to close that gap entirely [in
> those specific areas]. This is a historical, transformative offer,"
> she said. "We know the Canada Health Transfer is the biggest it's ever
> been."
>
> Barrette said it was "completely ridiculous" for Philpott to call the
> deal "transformative."
> "If Minister Philpott is calling this is a transformative proposal,
> she's right. She'll be transforming the system and for the worse."
>
> With files from Hannah Thibedeau and Aaron Wherry
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Your SIN is a 'master key.' Here's why you must protect it
Social insurance numbers aren’t easy to change. Experts suggest you take steps to protect yourself
· CBC Radio · Posted: Jun 29, 2025 5:00 AM ADT
Employment
and Social Development Canada says even if you change your social
insurance number, you can still fall victim to fraud if the number is
leaked. (Lars Hagberg/The Canadian Press Images)
Dave has learned the hard way that you don't want the wrong person getting a hold of your social insurance number.
In 2024, he became a victim of identity fraud. Someone used his SIN to open a bank account and get their hands on some quick cash. And while he didn't lose any of his own money, his credit score tanked for a period.
"The most frustrating part was being told, 'Hey, there isn't much we could do about this. Your information is on the dark web. It will be used again.' And months later, it was used again," Dave, of Laval, Que., told Cost of Living.
Dave isn't his real name. CBC has agreed to identify him by a pseudonym, as police have told him that further exposing his identity could lead to more challenges.
Dave was one of 4.2 million Desjardins customers that had their data leaked in 2019. And they aren't the only victims. Over the past few years, customers with Sobeys, Ticketmaster, London Drugs, Nova Scotia Power and the Canada Revenue Agency, to name a few, have had their data breached.
And since more businesses and organizations have started asking for social insurance numbers, experts are cautioning people to be very selective about who they share their SIN with.
"It's the most sensitive, secret and unique identifier. Essentially, it's the master key to our identity in Canada," said Claudiu Popa, co-founder of KnowledgeFlow Cybersafety Foundation, which advocates for online safety for Canadians.
Fraudsters value getting a hold of a social insurance number because
they can often use it to get quick cash. (Tero Vesalainen/Shutterstock)
SINs
The social insurance number was created with the launch of the Canadian Pension Plan in the 1960s and used to track who was eligible, as well as for various employment insurance programs.
According to Popa, there aren't many places that actually need to know it. A new employer needs your SIN, as does your bank and some government agencies, like the CRA.
But more organizations are asking for people's SINs. Popa says that includes gyms, landlords, insurance companies and schools. He says none of these places need your SIN, but that doesn't stop them from asking.
That's because it's an easy way to check someone's credit with a unique number. But some companies are also using it as an identifier for customers.
Claudiu Popa says organizations have started asking for people's SINs because it as a unique identifier. (CBC)
"It has just become a lazy way of uniquely identifying people, and unfortunately it places people at the risk of privacy breaches," said Popa.
So what do you do if someone asks for your SIN? Just say no.
But as the cliché goes, that's easier written into a CBC article than done in real life. Just ask Greg Pace.
When Pace made a major career change from an RCMP officer to a farmer, he figured it was a good idea to take some classes to gain more knowledge about the new field.
But midway through the government-sponsored classes, someone from the program pulled him aside and informed him he hadn't put his SIN in his paperwork.
"I felt there was a lot of social pressure to comply. And yet I knew it wasn't the right ask — that they were, I felt, overstepping," said Pace.
Pace, whose background as an RCMP officer taught him to be wary of sharing personal information, asked why, but wasn't given a reason. So he refused, and when it became obvious he was no longer welcome, he left the course.
Former RCMP officer Greg Pace left a course on farming because he
refused to give his social insurance number. (Blair Sanderson/CBC)
Compromised
What makes the social insurance number so valuable to fraudsters, compared to a credit card number or bank password? Popa says it's because, unlike other pieces of information, it isn't easy to change.
Dave knows that all too well. Just in the past year, fraudsters have tried to open two different bank accounts in his name and have bought multiple iPhones online. And the onslaught of fraud came just as Desjardins' offer of free credit monitoring was running out.
It's taken Dave a lot of time to talk to banks, credit bureaus and police to get it all straightened out each time. And it's not just a hassle. It can tank his credit score.
"To know that somebody could use … your information in a fraudulent manner, something that you worked so hard to build, is extremely frustrating," said Dave.
Since the Desjardins breach, some have requested new SINs. But that doesn't happen often. It requires proof that the number has been used in fraud, not just that the information has been leaked. And fraudsters are clever, Popa says. They'll often wait until their victims' credit monitoring has run out, which is usually public information.
In an email to CBC, Employment and Social Development Canada (ESDC) says it takes steps to protect people from having their SIN compromised, including awareness campaigns, fraud prevention resources and secure application processes.
It says that if your number is compromised, you should file a police report, notify the Canadian Anti-Fraud Centre, contact a credit bureau and report it to any affected government programs.
It doesn't, however, recommend applying for a new SIN.
"Having multiple SINs can increase fraud risk. Getting a new SIN does not erase the old SIN and does not protect it from future abuse," said ESDC spokesperson Saskia Rodenburg.
A different method?
There is another potential solution: digital IDs. This system would allow you to share only what you want to share and nothing else.
Desjardins was the victim of a data breach in 2019 that impacted millions of customers. (Mario De Ciccio/Radio-Canada)
"You might have something like a digital wallet that's in your phone, or in your smart tablet," said Joni Brennan, president of the non-profit Digital ID and Authentication Council of Canada.
One piece of information on the ID could be your verified income, for example, which you would be able to share with whichever person or organization that requires it. This way, she says, you could share only the information that's necessary, or that you want to share.
Some regions are taking the necessary steps, like B.C., but don't expect a Canada-wide digital ID anytime soon. That's because provinces have a lot of jurisdiction over credentials.
And as that progresses, Brennan says finding ways to protect our SIN needs to be an ongoing conversation.
"As we see, new technologies come forward that might create new ways for bad folks to do bad things, [so] the space that's focused on security and protection and privacy needs to continue to evolve, as well."
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