Monday 29 May 2023

400 homes evacuated, 1 destroyed as Saint Andrews-area forest fires spread


Maritime Connection with Preston Mulligan

June 4, 2023: What are you doing to help others affected by the wildfires in our region?
 
 
 
 

Residents of Belleisle area grateful to volunteers who battled out-of-control wildfire

Lessons learned, needed equipment identified after last week's fire

In both fires, a local fire department of volunteers answered the call. Both departments dealt with similar conditions — a fire in the woods being driven by very strong winds toward people's homes. 

When the call first came in around 1 p.m., Belleisle Valley Fire Department Capt. Mike Sherwood couldn't even see the smoke from across Belleisle Bay at his family's camp. 

Within hours, however, heavy smoke was driven into the area by very strong winds, said Sherwood, forcing some people to leave that area on the opposite side of the bay.

A smiling man in a ball cap wearing firefighter gear and sunglasses. Sherwood said they've received so many inquiries about how to make donations to the volunteer fire department that they've set up a new email address for direct deposits. (Submitted by Mike Sherwood)

Closer to the fire, homeowners were convinced it was right on top of them because of the way the smoke blew close to the ground and far out ahead of the fire. 

"The smoke was being carried so far, so fast, that people thought the fire was in their backyard, when in fact it was still roughly three-quarters of a kilometre from many homes along the bay, up on top of the hill," said Sherwood.

WATCH | Drone gets close look to help officials fight fire:

Fire department flies drone to assess forest fire with no water bombers available

Duration 0:47
The Belleisle Valley Fire Department says it was granted special permission to fly drone over fire to help craft a plan of attack.

The close call was enough for residents to want to express their gratitude for the volunteers who answer the calls in the community. 

In a post on the community's social media page, Sherwood said they've received so many inquiries about how to make donations to the department that they've set up a new email address for direct deposits to the department. 

He also said he's hoping to use those funds to buy a drone for the fire department since "more and more the DNR [Department of Natural Resources] is relying on local departments to fight the fires."

It was his personal drone that he used, and it sustained some damage because of the heat. He said he'd like to buy a drone equipped with thermal imaging, which means it wouldn't have to fly as close to identify hot spots. 

An arial shot of a number of cars on a dirt road, surrounded by charred black forest. The fire began after strong winds pushed trees into power lines, causing the power to arc to the ground and catch fire. (Submitted by BVFD)

He said the information provided by the drone was invaluable in directing firefighters and resources in the fire zone. 

Sherwood said he was given clearance and approval by the Department of Natural Resources and Energy to use the drone to create a plan of attack because they weren't able to acquire any water bombers — otherwise, it's illegal to fly a drone in the area of a forest or wildfire. 

With the help of the drone, Sherwood said they were "able to direct the crews who were lugging 500 feet of hose through the woods from the truck that was actually pumping the water."

The drone was able to direct those on the ground to the easiest route through the woods. 

"On the ground, there could be a roadway 10 feet away from you, and you'd never see it. That drone gave us a birds-eye view and allowed us to fight that fire a lot easier."

Provincial resources during wildfires

The Department of Natural Resources and Energy Development "does not offer direct financial support, the department provides training to fire departments on an annual basis," according to the department when asked about funding for volunteer departments.

In an email, a spokesperson said expenses are covered when "assistance is required" from fire departments. 

The message said the department can also "provide trained wildland firefighters as well as logistical, operation and planning resources" and aerial support.

"Emergency Measures Organization provides logistics related to evacuations and community support. We also would like to mention others agencies including the forest industry, N.B. Power, the Red Cross and all other groups who help provide assistance during these times."

From clear skies to thick smoke 

When Sherwood reached the fire department to gear up on the afternoon of May 28, the response was "pretty sparse," he said, which isn't unusual for a Sunday afternoon. Later that day, though, as smoke and word about the fire spread, they had 29 firefighters on the scene. They also had help from Norton and Wickham fire departments. 

Sherwood said the fire started on Valley Road when a tree rubbed on the power lines because of the strong winds and resulted in "arcing" to the ground. 

"By the time we headed out with the trucks, it was obvious that we had something big going on," said Sherwood. 

Valley Road is located over the hill from Belleisle Bay, upriver from the ferry on the Kars side. Heavy winds pushed the smoke over the hill and across the bay to the southeast. 

The fire itself burned in that direction for about three kilometres, toward homes and cottages along the bay. 

But unlike the Stein Lake fire in Chamcook, a twist of fate and wind direction helped prevent disaster in Belleisle. 

A drone shot of a forest fire. The fire started around 1 p.m. on May 28 on Valley Road in Kars, and strong winds blew it over the hill toward Belleisle Bay. (Submitted by BVFD)

"In most cases you can say it always could have been worse, but Mother Nature helped us out in this one for sure," said Sherwood. 

The winds turned about 180 degrees and drove the fire back along the same path it had already burned. 

That, said Sherwood, is what prevented the situation from being a disaster. Without it being driven by the winds, firefighters were able to stop the fire from advancing further toward the bay and the structures along its shores. 

Sherwood estimates the fire came to within three-quarters of a kilometre of the nearest home. 

He said no homes were officially evacuated, although the residents of the house that was considered closest to the fire's path had packed a few things and left — with four family members joining the fire department's efforts to fight the blaze. 

Having gotten lucky by the change of wind direction, Sherwood said the fire, although out of control, wasn't deemed serious enough to warrant diverting water bombers from the fire in the Saint Andrews area, which started around the same time. 

Eventually the fire was brought under control, but it still wasn't declared officially "out" by Sunday night. 

A grateful community responds 

Like the firefighters who worked around the clock to battle the out-of-control forest fire in Chamcook and Bocabec, the efforts of the Belleisle Valley Fire Department were immediately on the minds of Belleisle-area residents.

Sherwood said the local food truck cooked up 50 hamburgers while an across-the-road-neighbour from the fire station made 50 hotdogs. 

Sherwood said they often receive donations from those who have been helped by the department. It's often used to buy new equipment or water for the firefighters, which can be significant. 

An aerial shot of a forest fire and lots of smoke. The fire tore through the woods toward houses and cottages on the Kars side of Belleisle Bay before the winds turned 180 degrees and pushed it back along its original path. (Submmited by BVFD)

"I have no idea how much water we drank that day, but it was in the hundreds of gallons. That all has to come from somewhere and that's typically what the donations are for."

The severity of this fire, however, seems to have hit residents close to home and the appreciation seems to be "deeper," said Sherwood. 

"There was a lot of uncertainty with the way the wind was blowing because if you were running through the woods, I don't think you could have kept ahead of that fire," he said.

"Things were happening and changing that fast and that fluidly. So yes, people were scared and I think they're very appreciative that we were able to deal with that situation and stop it."

Lightening the load

Sherwood also hopes to buy forestry hoses for the department with any extra money donated by residents. Forestry hoses are smaller and lighter than regular hoses and make trekking through heavy terrain far from the trucks a lot easier on firefighters. 

"That firefighter is going to last four or five times longer before he's completely and utterly exhausted," said Sherwood

"It's just like carrying a garden hose versus carrying about 50 pounds of rubber-wrapped firefighting hose." 

With the way the climate is changing, Sherwood anticipates that fire departments will be dealing with more forest fires in the future. 

"And the better equipped we are to deal with it, the faster that's going to be put out."

ABOUT THE AUTHOR

Mia Urquhart is a journalist with CBC New Brunswick, based in Saint John. She can be reached at mia.urquhart@cbc.ca.

 
 
 
11 Comments
 
 
 
David Amos
Tune into the 25 minute mark of

Maritime Connection with Preston Mulligan,

June 4, 2023: What are you doing to help others affected by the wildfires in our region? 

 

 

Corrie Weatherfield 
From caption under picture . . . "strong winds pushed trees into power lines" . . . gotta love the careful maintenance work of the outfit that looks after those power lines 
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to Corrie Weatherfield  
Now you know why I called


 

Volunteer firefighter shortage putting communities at risk, chiefs say

Fire departments are struggling to recruit enough volunteers to quickly respond to calls

"It's extremely concerning," he said. "From time-to-time we have excellent coverage and there's times we have very poor coverage." 

Petitcodiac is one of a growing number of communities in New Brunswick and across Canada struggling to find enough volunteers to keep residents safe. 

While cities employ career firefighters, small towns and villages rely on volunteers.

Peter Saunders pictured next to a fire truck, wearing a yellow reflective vest Peter Saunders has been a volunteer firefighter for more than 30 years and is a former chief. He's also the mayor of the newly amalgamated village of Three Rivers, which includes Petitcodiac. (Alexandre Silberman/CBC)

Out of the more than 5,000 firefighters in the province, about 95 per cent are volunteers, according to the New Brunswick Association of Fire Chiefs.

Petitcodiac's station currently has 23 volunteers, but Ramsey said the department needs at least five more. 

In the small community around 42 kilometres southwest of Moncton, many residents once worked at a large sawmill. But after the operation closed, most now drive to work in the city. At times, that leaves as few as two volunteers to respond to an emergency, forcing a reliance on mutual aid from surrounding communities.

24-7 commitment 

Peter Saunders is mayor of the newly amalgamated village of Three Rivers, which includes Petitcodiac. He's been a volunteer firefighter for more than 30 years and previously served as chief.

Saunders, 61, works at a building supplies store in the village of 1,400 people, where he keeps his radio on to monitor for calls. Being a volunteer firefighter is a 24-7 role and is disruptive to family, home and work life.

"One minute you're washing dishes, the next minute you're at the end of a hose line or you're driving a truck," Saunders said.

WATCH | Volunteer firefighters rush to an emergency call:

Inside a rural New Brunswick fire department struggling to find volunteers

Duration 2:19
Petitcodiac is one of a growing number of small communities without enough volunteer firefighters to respond to emergencies at all hours.

Despite working dangerous situations, most volunteers only receive a few hundred dollars a year to cover their mileage. If they reach enough hours, they are also eligible to claim a $3,000 federal tax credit.

It's also a big time commitment just to get started. It takes 100 hours to do the basic course to become a volunteer firefighter in New Brunswick. Most members also have to commit to regular training one-to-two-nights a week, in addition to responding to calls.

Saunders's father was a volunteer first responder with St. John Ambulance, which encouraged his involvement. But he's seen interest decline over his time with the fire department.

"I believe that we do make a difference, even though there are bad situations. It's the helping people and to have them comfortable in the toughest situations," he said.

Recruitment challenges

The New Brunswick Association of Fire Chiefs doesn't have exact numbers on the shortage, but president Scott Poupart, a volunteer firefighter near Bathurst, estimates most volunteer departments need an additional six to 12 firefighters on their rosters.

"We're all in a continual recruitment and retention mode," he said.

Canada lost 30,000 firefighters over the past six years, according to a national survey.

Most firefighters in New Brunswick are over the age of 50, and many long-serving volunteers are expected to retire in the coming years. 

Ramsey, who has been a firefighter for 20 years, attributes the recruitment struggles to several factors, including changing family dynamics and a decline in volunteerism in general. 

Another challenge is that the responsibilities of a firefighter have greatly expanded beyond fires. Calls now include car accidents, medical calls, off-road rescues, overdoses and forest fires. The varying incidents require more specialized training.

The number of calls is now on the rise, with Petitcodiac firefighters responding to more than 150, on average, per year.

Since Saunders started, he said the types of emergencies firefighters respond to and provincial regulations have all expanded. Some calls can be traumatic, including grim car accidents, he said.

"You're asking for a lot for someone to be a volunteer today in the fire department business. For a thank you, for a handshake, for that barbecue. It's a lot," he said.

Possible solutions

As the number of volunteer firefighters decline, some departments are starting to pay members per call or hiring full-time chiefs — substantial costs for rural communities already footing the bill for expensive firefighting equipment. Others are hiring a few career firefighters to supplement the volunteers.

Scott Poupart wearing uniform stands beside a banner with fire chiefs association logo Scott Poupart is a volunteer firefighter near Bathurst and president of the New Brunswick Association of Fire Chiefs. (Submitted by Scott Poupart)

Saunders suggests one solution could be recruiting volunteers in whatever capacity they're willing to lend a hand.

"Maybe there's some people who don't want to go near car accidents, or maybe there's some people who don't want to wear an air pack. That's fine, but I'm telling you there's a job for you somewhere that you're going to be comfortable with," he said.

Firefighter associations are also lobbying the federal government to increase the volunteer tax credit to $10,000 from $3,000 per year.

Poupart said while the field is dangerous, there are ways to make it more appealing and accessible.

"We need to draw that new blood into the fire service, and the only way we're going to do that is by making our training flexible enough, putting some incentives in place, whatever they may be," he said.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR


Alexandre Silberman

Video journalist

Alexandre Silberman is a video journalist with CBC News based in Moncton. He has previously worked at CBC Fredericton, Power & Politics, and Marketplace. You can reach him by email at: alexandre.silberman@cbc.ca

 


45 Comments
 
 
 
David Amos
I remember the Petitcodiac Fire Dept coming to a former friend's farm many times in 2008 
 
 
Shawn Tabor
Reply to David Amos  
That was truly interesting. 
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to Shawn Tabor  
You know all about it  
 
 
 
 
David Amos
Tune into the 25 minute mark of

Maritime Connection with Preston Mulligan,

June 4, 2023: What are you doing to help others affected by the wildfires in our region? 


David Amos
Reply to David Amos  
Residents of Belleisle area grateful to volunteers who battled out-of-control wildfire

Lessons learned, needed equipment identified after last week's fire

Mia Urquhart · CBC News · Posted: Jun 05, 2023 7:00 AM ADT

 

 

 
 

ATV group urges members to stay off N.B. trails amid forest-fire risk

Users asked to halt activities for 2 weeks as tinder-dry conditions continue

Quad N.B. said a cigarette butt or a hot exhaust pipe rubbing against brush could spark a fire in extremely dry conditions.

The call to stay off trails comes after an ATV ignited a forest fire in the Saint Andrews area, forcing the evacuation of hundreds of homes.

"We just want to make sure that all of our members understand the situation that we're in right now with the dry season and the potential of a fire starting very quickly," said Jacques Poirier, the organization's general manager.

In a memo to members, Poirier said the air quality is unhealthy in certain areas and out-of-control fires could put ATV riders at risk. He asked clubs to cancel any scheduled events.

"We do not recommend anyone go into the forest," he wrote.

ATV driving in wooded area Quad N.B., the association that manages ATV trail networks across New Brunswick, said the air quality is unhealthy in certain areas and out-of-control fires could put ATV riders at risk. (CBC)

The organization said people who insist on riding ATVs should take "every precaution necessary" and avoid areas with active fires.

Poirier said the memo is a recommendation, but he expects Crown land could potentially close to recreational activities if dry conditions continue. He said with tinder-dry brush and vegetation, a hot ATV could risk sparking a blaze.

"Just a matter of parking near or over dry grass — it could literally start a fire easily," he said.

There are currently 14 active forest fires in New Brunswick, and the entire province remains under a burn ban amid dry conditions, hot temperatures and high winds. 

Natural Resources Minister Mike Holland said the situation does not currently meet the criteria to close Crown lands to recreational or industrial use. He said he's urging New Brunswickers to use care while the province remains at the red level of the forest-fire index.

"Whether it be in the woods, whether it be in your backyard, whether it be anywhere, in a subdivision. Anywhere you are, forest fire and fire precautions need to be taken," Holland said, speaking by phone from the province's forest fire management centre.

The province is urging extra caution with cigarettes and smoking materials, errant sparks, coals and anything that could start a fire.

A man in a grey suit with a white shirt and no tie is standing in front of a wall gesturing with his arms wide open. Natural Resources Minister Mike Holland says precautions need to be taken no matter where people are, whether its in the woods or the backyard. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

New Brunswick closed Crown lands in 2020 after a streak of dry weather created a major forest-fire risk.

While Crown land remains open, Holland said forest-fire management staff are continuing to analyze the situation. He said he would have to defer to groups such as Quad N.B. for guidance on specific activities. 

"We're in a situation where we've got some hot spots, we're paying very close attention to them. And we continue to be on par with years gone by.

"Over the weekend, there was a significant amount of forest-fire starts. So that's a bit of an anomaly from what we're used to," he said, 

ABOUT THE AUTHOR


Alexandre Silberman

Video journalist

Alexandre Silberman is a video journalist with CBC News based in Moncton. He has previously worked at CBC Fredericton, Power & Politics, and Marketplace. You can reach him by email at: alexandre.silberman@cbc.ca

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22 Comments

 
 
 
David Amos
Mikey knows it wasn't ATV folks who caused the fire in my neck of the woods 
 
 
 
 
Ben Haroldson 
Time for the ATV clubs to charge enough membership dues to cover the cost of large fire and general wetland damage. 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Ben Haroldson 
Its High Time NB Power trim the trees close to their power lines  
 
 
 
 
John Pokiok  
By that account we should ban camping, RV's, camp fires smoking of any sorts while walking hiking or walking your dog on a trail. 
 
 
Michael Cain  
Reply to John Pokiok   
we should 
 
 
Ben Haroldson 
Reply to John Pokiok  
People sitting still aren't the problem. 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to John Pokiok 
Explain your reasoning to my dog  
 
 
 
 
Doug kirby  
Holland drop the rules and opinion...close the woods for 2 weeks period..or else patrol all the trails...tons of yahoo's out there
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Doug kirby
Mikey also oversees NB Power 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to David Amos 
Wildland Fire Reporting System (WFRS)

Activity Summary 2023-05-29

Being Patrolled 152 Valley Fire May-29 45.62778 65.91528 40.0 4 1 0 0 0 0 1

 
 
 
 
 
Wildland Fire Reporting System (WFRS)
Activity Summary 2023-05-29
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Natural Resources and Energy Development
Pers = Fire Fighters; Eng = Engines; Tend = Tenders; Trac = Tractors; Air = Air Tankers; Heli = Helicopters; Ovr = Overhead
 
 Being Patrolled 152 Valley Fire May-29 45.62778 65.91528 40.0 4 1 0 0 0 0 1
 
 
 
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Belleisle Valley - What's Going On?

Kars fire May 28-29 2023. Origin Valley Road, tree on wire, travelled roughly 3 km east, fanned by strong west wind, currently under control.

Update on fire in Kars…
Fire is under control, BVFD still on scene putting out hotspots, wind is blowing fire back onto the already burned sections, anticipating fully out by this afternoon.

I’m very proud to serve our community alongside all BVFD members, and community members helping out yesterday and today with the large wind driven forest fire. Thank you Belle’s and Marj for feeding us, and Ginny, Alex Howe and the boys for delivering to the many locations we were set up. Your BVFD is absolutely top notch in our training, equipment and brute power, along with DNR,  Norton FD and Wickham FD, who were called to their own forest fire while helping us,well done ladies and gentlemen.
 
 
 
 

400 homes evacuated, 1 destroyed as Saint Andrews-area forest fires spread

An ATV caught fire Sunday, blaze spread to surrounding dry woods

CBC News ·
A Saint Andrews-area forest fire has spread over 600 acres, or about 250 hectares, destroyed one home, and forced the evacuation of about 400 others since it started Sunday.

An evacuation order remains in place for Bocabec and surrounding areas in southwestern New Brunswick, and officials have blocked off part of Highway 127 between Bocabec and Saint Andrews.

A news conference is scheduled to be held at 2 p.m., when fire Chief Kevin Theriault, Saint Andrews Mayor Brad Henderson and Premier Blaine Higgs are expected to provide an update.

The fire has jumped the highway and also some waterways and is now burning in several different areas, kilometres apart. From Kerrs Ridge Road, near the exit to Bocabec, smoke could be seen from five distinct areas.

Waterbombers and fire crews from several departments from as far away as Oromocto are battling the blaze.

WATCH | 'Watching part of the land that they love on fire': hundreds of homes in southwestern New Brunswick evacuated as forest fire burns:

Homes evacuated Sunday as forest fire burns near Saint Andrews

Duration 0:34
Vicki Hogarth of CHCO-TV says residents watched as the fire burned close to their homes.

Some planes that had gone to Nova Scotia Sunday to assist with a wildfire that continues to burn out of control northwest of Halifax returned to New Brunswick by Monday morning, Higgs told reporters.

"I've been told that certainly on the resource side we have adequate resources now on the ground for the current situation," he said. "But you know that's a moving target, isn't it?"

Higgs was onsite with Saint Croix MLA Kathy Bockus. "We're here as a provincial government to be part of the solution and to provide whatever additional resources are needed to meet the needs," he said.

A line of trees with puffs of smoke above them Smoke caused by the forest fires in communities near Saint Andrews. (Andrea Anderson-Mason)

Almost all residents of Bocabec and Chamcook have had to leave their homes and are unlikely to be back soon as the fires rage on, according to Henderson.

"Unfortunately, this fire still has a ways to go [to] being contained," he told Information Morning at about 7:15 a.m. Monday.

Bocabec is about 17 kilometres northeast of Saint Andrews, and Chamcook is about six kilometres north. They're both small rural communities on the highway leading into the seaside town.

Outside the command centre that's been set up at the Saint Andrews fire station, people have been arriving with food and asking what they can do to help.

Out of control, could get worse

According to the provincial Wildland Fire Reporting System, the fire is out of control, and has spread to 617 acres, or 250 hectares, since it started less than 24 hours ago.

The evacuation area includes 10 kilometres along both sides of Highway 127 — from the Highway 1 exit until Glebe Road, Henderson said.

Firefighters huddked outside station Saint Andrews Mayor Brad Henderson says dozens of firefighters are heading back out to the forest fires in the Bocabec and Chamcook areas, as additional air support is expected to arrive Monday morning. (Brad Henderson/CBC)

The fire is unpredictable, and anyone who's still in the area should leave, he said.

"There is absolutely no reason to be in your home," he said. "This is a changing situation where it could certainly get worse."

Many people in the area have been trying to get to the blocked-off area to check on property, but they are being turned away.

Emergency assistance offered

The W.C. O'Neill Arena opened as an emergency shelter and is offering food and accommodation.

Henderson said about 100 people registered with the Red Cross at the arena, and none had to sleep on a cot because hotels, airbnbs and private homes are opening their doors to help them out.

"When you drive through Saint Andrews and you see the Algonquin Hotel have a lineup of cars, and you see everyone, just their cars full of all their belongings, it really hits home, how this is impacting people," he said.

Flames and smoke rising from green woods The forest fire in Saint Andrews spread quickly, growing from a small ATV fire to cover 500 acres in fewer than 24 hours. (Roger Cosman/CBC)

Vicki Hogarth, news director with CHCO Television, an independent television station in Saint Andrews, said she'd spoken to people worried about their homes and belongings.

"In one case we were standing with the family who were watching what they were pretty sure was their home on fire and they had their dog with them, but they couldn't find their cat in time," she told Information Morning. "They were hoping, just because it was a nice day, that the windows were open and the cat was safe."

She said she also saw people trying to get their livestock to safety.

Firefighters have been hiking into the woods with backpacks, but Henderson said air support is coming. Although one home has been lost, there have been multiple close calls that firefighters successfully beat back, he said.

On Sunday, small planes were spraying the woods with fire retardant and attempting to slow the burn. They had to land for the night but Henderson said they're coming back Monday.

People looking at fire and dark smoke in the distance The fire spread quickly to multiple places because of dry weather and high winds. (Peter Vihvelin/Submitted)

This year has already been above average in forest fire size. Since the beginning of the year, 292 hectares have burned, which is 10 hectares higher than the 10-year average.

With files from Mia Urquhart and Information Morning Saint John

 
 
 
32 Comments
 
 
 
David Amos

I find it interesting that the fire we had in my neck of the woods yesterday was not newsworthy 
 
 
David Amos

Reply to David Amos 
At the very least I must thank all the firefighters in the Belle Isle Bay area for doing a fine job
 
 
David Amos
 
 
 
 
Jean Lafmas
Another man made catastrophe. Started with ATV fire. When will people learn.  
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Jean Lafmas 
On or about the 12th of Never 



 
 
Corrie Weatherfield 
is there any financial liability for a person who starts a fire like this? most small gasoline engine toys do not catch fire in normal use. did the operator make a mistake in operating the thing or fail to do proper maintenance? are there any limitations on such operations when the forest is under a "no fires" condition? 
 
 
Micheal Wilson 
Rely to Corrie Weatherfield  
They break down or catch fire more than you may think. Just wrong place wrong time for it to happen. 
 
 
Don Corey 
Rely to Corrie Weatherfield
The only possible liability would be if the forested area was under a public travel ban. Such was not the case here.   
 
 
David Amos
Rely to Don Corey
There is more to this story  
 
 
 
 
 
 
Fred Dee  
Time to ban ATV's from the woods when fire risk is high!!! Alberta has 
 
 
Andrew Martin 
Rely to Fred Dee   
How about making a fire extinguisher part of your kit instead of more government "bans"? 


Don Corey 
Rely to Fred Dee 
When the risk is extreme, all public travel (not just ATV's) within forested areas can indeed be banned.  
 
 
David Amos
Rely to Don Corey
True 
 
 
 
 
 
Murray Brown  
So this is a 'forest' fire rather than a 'wild' fire because we know how it started... An ATV caught on fire, then it caught nearby trees on fire and now we have a 'forest' fire. The term 'wild' fire, which is being applied to these other fire incidents throughout Canada is truly misleading... Fires just don't 'start' up with no reason whatsoever... There is typically a source for the fire. They just don't start by themselves... Arson or mishandled a campfire is typically the cause... Is the media investigating how these 'wild' fires are starting? I assume that the authorities are. 
 
 
Gail Steeves 
Rely to Murray Brown  
I believe most "wild fires" are the result of lightening strikes. 
 
 
SarahRose Werner 
Rely to Murray Brown 
WHO: "A wildfire is an unplanned fire that burns in a natural area such as a forest, grassland, or prairie. Wildfires are often caused by human activity or a natural phenomenon such as lightning, and they can happen at any time or anywhere. In 50% of wildfires recorded, it is not known how they started."

National Geographic: "A wildfire is an uncontrolled fire that burns in wildland vegetation, often in rural areas."

So a forest fire started accidentally by humans would qualify as a "wildfire," although deliberate arson would not. Also, one would not want the media to interfere with current investigations in progress by the authorities. The media serves a far more useful purpose in notifying the public of the extent of the fires and of evacuation orders.

 
pierrette audet
Rely to Murray Brown  
It has absolutely nothing to do with how the fire started.....A wildfire is an uncontrolled fire that sweeps across large parts of areas with combustible vegetation. A forest fire is a type of wildfire where an uncontrolled fire rages through vegetation generally more than six feet in height 
 
 
Ray Skavinsky  
Rely to SarahRose Werner
You are right on the money Sarah...thanks! 
 
 
Don Corey 
Rely to Gail Steeves  
Actually, the majority of wildfires are caused by human activity, accidental and deliberate.

Lightning is by far the most common natural cause.

 
Don Corey 
Rely to SarahRose Werner
This is actually a forest fire caused by human activity. 
 
 
Don Corey 
Rely to pierrette audet
Correct!!  
 
 
David Amos
Rely to Don Corey 
Ditto
 


 

'Nothing is left,' daughter says of parents' home lost to forest fire

Residents of Bocabec and Chamcook allowed back home, but officials caution threat isn't over yet

Their house, a one-storey in Bocabec, about 20 kilometres northeast of Saint Andrews, was the only one lost in a 540-hectare fire that began Sunday.

Stewart, who goes by Annie, said her parents' house was evacuated, so they were staying at a friend's house across the road. She said the fire came down the hill, destroyed the house, then went back up the hill.

"Nothing is left. It's pretty much just rubble," Stewart said. "All that's left is my mom's bird bath."

Burned remains of a building with metal equipment still left standing. The charred remains of the workshop where Stewart's father built handmade steam engines and boat models, among other things. (Submitted by Annie Stewart)

She said they were able to move their vehicles, save their pets, and her mother grabbed one photo album. Stewart said she grew up in that house and it held a lot of memories. 

"All my school pictures, my french diploma. ... A couple of books that I got from my music teacher that passed away from breast cancer. I lost a lot of good memories," she said.

WATCH | Annie Stewart describes what's left of her childhood home

'It all happened so quickly': Bocabec fire destroyed the home of Annie Stewart's parents

Duration 0:58
One home was destroyed in a Charlotte County forest fire. Annie Stewart, who grew up there, describes the impact of the fire.

She said her parents have been grateful for the outpouring of community support, with people donating necessities and cash, and her partner Shawn McLeod started a crowdfunding campaign.

Stewart said her parents didn't have insurance for the house. She said they're getting a trailer to live in and plan to rebuild.

'This fire is not over'

While some residents of southwestern New Brunswick are breathing a sigh of relief Wednesday about the success of firefighters, the message from the mayor of Saint Andrews was: "This fire is not over."

Hundreds of people had to leave their homes, but on Tuesday, officials lifted the evacuation order — even though the fire is still listed as out of control. 

Woman with red hair looking at camera on a sunny day Annie Stewart's parents' house was the only one that burned in a fire that's still listed as out of control. (Shane Fowler/CBC)

The next morning, Mayor Brad Henderson said the decision was made because the residential areas are no longer under imminent threat. But he encouraged people to stay vigilant and be prepared to leave again.

"There [are] active hotspots that continue to flare up," he told Information Morning Saint John. "That's expected probably not to end for a number of days. It's such a large area and some of it is very difficult to get to."

Henderson said hot and dry weather, as well as high winds, could contribute to the fire spreading.

Roger Collet, a wildlife management officer with the Department of Natural Resources, told an afternoon news conference in Fredericton that the fire now is mostly smouldering but can't be considered contained.

There are up to 400 hotspots in the 540 hectares covered by the fire, which will be continuously monitored, he said.

Premier Blaine Higgs also cautioned that the fire threat isn't over.

Higgs praised the firefighting force, including 50 volunteers, and the "element of calmness" shown in knowing how to tackle the fire.

Flames and white smoke billow high in the air above a bungalow, surrounded by trees.                                    The fire in Charlotte County got close to residential areas earlier this week but has been knocked back. (Melanie Ryall)

"We don't need to make more work for them," Higgs said before praising individuals and groups for refraining from adding to the fire risk. 

Collet said calm weather has helped conditions, and the province was confident enough about the situation on Wednesday that it sent four water bombers to Nova Scotia, where a fire outside Halifax has already damaged 200 homes. 

New Brunswick, which is co-ordinating the effort with Nova Scotia, kept four water bombers.

"We have ourselves covered," Collet said. "We're not expecting a lot of fires today because of the calm conditions."

Shelter remains open in town

In Saint Andrews, the emergency shelter at the W.C. O'Neill Arena is still open and staffed by Red Cross volunteers. Henderson said evacuees who are not comfortable going home yet are welcome to stay there.

He said if people have to evacuate their homes again, they can sign up to receive text and email notifications, and officials would also go door to door.

Henderson said there have been two close calls where the fire got close to homes but didn't touch them. Geoffrey Howson's home in Bocabec was surrounded by charred land on three sides but was still standing.

Man with arm around woman, child standing between them. Annie Stewart and her partner Shawn McLeod are helping Stewart's parents after their house burned down in a wild fire. (Shane Fowler/CBC)

Roger Collet, a wildfire management officer with the New Brunswick Department of Natural Resources, previously said the seven water bombers that flew more than 80 hours on Monday are now on standby. He said the fire will now be fought on the ground — unless it worsens.

On Wednesday, firefighters continued to use bulldozers to clear the way to access the more remote areas and to help create fire breaks. 

With files from Information Morning Saint John and Shane Fowler.

 
 
 
 
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From 'hilltop to hilltop to hilltop': residents grapple with impact of fast-moving forest fire

Some homes nearly surrounded by charred ground and trees

The heavily wooded areas on either side of his long driveway were burned black. Scorch marks almost encircle his house, including in a front flower bed and directly beneath his back deck, which overlooks Passamaquoddy Bay. 

Fire burned through a wooded area to within 10 metres of his home on one side.

Howson credits firefighters with saving his house. If not for them fighting off the flames, he's certain he would have lost it.

Man shows burn marks in a flower bed under a deck. Howson shows the remnants of the fire that burned under his back deck. (Roger Cosman/CBC)

That scene was being replayed all over the Bocabec and Chamcook areas affected by the fire after officials lifted an evacuation. 

He said he's "incredibly grateful" to the firefighters, who worked around the clock to protect homes from the fast-moving fire that began about three kilometres away in the woods across Highway 127 from Howson's house. 

A blackened out forest after a forest fire. Fire burned through the woods on this property off Highway 127 in Bocabec, but firefighters managed to save three buildings nearby. (Mia Urquhart/CBC)

Firefighters told Howson they even fought the fire with the garden hose he had lying beside his house. 

He heard about the fire from a neighbour on Sunday afternoon and within hours, he and his wife were ordered to evacuate. 

While the fire is still considered out of control, officials did allow residents to return.

Howson said he had been running on adrenaline until he got home and started feeling the impact of what they had been through. 

He felt vulnerable and "just very, very lucky." 

Across Highway 127, Department of Natural Resources officials allowed journalists on Tuesday to get a look at the damage caused by the forest fire. 

WATCH | Bocabec resident grateful firefighters saved home from forest fire:

‘We were pretty shaken’: Bocabec residents head for home Tuesday

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People whose homes were evacuated because of a forest fire in southwestern N.B. are allowed to return home, as officials say they’re making progress on the fire.

A dirt road led to several properties in the woods.

Very little vegetation was left. Blackened tree trunks were all that was standing along both sides of the road.

Somehow, though, firefighters managed to keep the flames from claiming three modest homes or camps. 

Burned vegetation almost surrounded one of the buildings, coming to within feet of the structure. It seemed inconceivable that any of the buildings were still standing. 

A forest fire burns to within feet of a small home under construction. The fire burned to within several feet of this home under construction in the woods off Highway 127 in Bocabec. (Mia Urquhart/CBC)

Firefighters were still on the property dousing hot spots in the nearby woods when one of the homeowners returned.

The man walked around his house and stood to survey the damage. He stood very still until he was overcome by a visible shudder before he continued on around his house. 

Only one house was lost in the blaze that claimed about 250 hectares. It's being called the Stein Lake fire because it began on the South Glenelg Road near Stein Lake, around 13 kilometres north of Saint Andrews.

Fire Chief Kevin Theriault said the 911 call reported an ATV on fire. He said by the time firefighters reached the scene, it had already spread to the woods and could not be contained. 

Very strong winds on Sunday initially carried the fire parallel to Route 1 before turning south toward Highway 127, said Theriault. 

He said the winds were so strong they carried the fire from "hilltop to hilltop to hilltop." 

A firefighter surrounded by blacked woods sprays water from a hose. .     A firefighter helps douse hot spots with water on Tuesday afternoon at a property off Highway 127, three kilometres from where the Stein Lake fire started. (Mia Urquhart/CBC)

In fact, the fire spread to areas eight kilometres away from the initial fire. At its widest, the fire burned three kilometres across. It jumped across Highway 127 in at least three spots, said Theriault. 

By Monday afternoon, he said there were at least six distinct fire locations. 

Local MLA Kathy Bockus told a news conference on Tuesday afternoon that aerial surveillance identified 220 hot spots. 

More than 60 firefighters from 13 different departments from as far away as Harvey and Oromocto were on scene battling the blaze on Monday.

A hand made thank you sign posted along a roadway. Elementary school children helped make dozens of signs like this one that were put up along the route between the fire station and the fire. (Roger Cosman/CBC)

By Tuesday, Theriault said, that was down to 55 firefighters from eight departments. 

Roger Collet, a wildfire management officer with the New Brunswick Department of Natural Resources, said the seven water bombers that flew more than 80 hours on Monday are now on standby. 

The fire will now be largely fought on the ground by hand. Bulldozers are being used to clear the way to access the more remote areas and to help create fire breaks. 

ABOUT THE AUTHOR

Mia Urquhart is a journalist with CBC New Brunswick, based in Saint John. She can be reached at mia.urquhart@cbc.ca.

 
 
 
 
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