Thursday 2 May 2024

2 Tory politicians join forces to demand feds remove sunken sailboat from St. John River

 

2 Tory politicians join forces to demand feds remove sunken sailboat from St. John River

MP John Williamson and MLA Bill Oliver want immediate action from Ottawa

The April 30 deadline to remove a sunken sailboat from the St. John River has come and gone and the Not a Starship is still sitting on the bottom. 

On Wednesday, the area's provincial and federal elected officials teamed up to call on Ottawa to "immediately remove the wrecked vessel." 

MP John Williamson and MLA Bill Oliver specifically want Transport Canada and the Canadian Coast Guard to remove the remains of the sailboat and, in a joint statement, criticized both for underestimating "the immediate risks posed by Not a Starship."

"Visible evidence of the vessel's diesel, generator fuel and battery fluid leaking into the river throughout the winter was not enough to convince federal officials that this wreck was abandoned," said the statement.

WATCH |  Not a Starship now a boating hazard:
 

Continuing saga of the sunken sailboat

Duration 1:43
MLA Bill Oliver describes the danger posed by the boat that now sits on the bottom of the St. John River, near Browns Flat, in his riding. He and MP John Williamson are calling on federal officials to remove it immediately.

"Now, its 17-metre mast pierces the water from the river's bed, posing a clear risk to unsuspecting boaters. Likelihood of a collision has only heightened as nearby boat traffic increases with warmer weather."

Last month, an official with Transport Canada said if the boat wasn't removed by the owner by April 30, it would be "deemed as abandoned under the Wrecked, Abandoned or Hazardous Vessels Act, and the owner could face enforcement actions, including monetary penalties."

This week, Transport Canada spokesperson Katherine Proulx said a department official made a visit Wednesday to Not a Starship to "assess the situation." She was asked for more details about the assessment but has not yet responded. 

Oliver, a Progressive Conservative MLA, said people have environmental and safety concerns about the sunken boat. 

"We need to have the boat removed immediately before boating activities increase, we've waited long enough, the time to act is now," he said.

Two men in foreground with a body of water behind them and a light-coloured pole barely visible out of the water.  MP John Williamson and MLA Bill Oliver pose at Beulah Camp, with one of the two masts of the sunken Not a Starship barely visible in the background. (Bill Oliver/Facebook)

Both Oliver and Williams called on Transport Minister Pablo Rodriguez and Fisheries Minister Diane Lebouthillier to "overrule their departments and use the federal powers granted to them under the Wrecked, Abandoned or Hazardous Vessels Act to remove this wreck immediately."

Williamson, a Conservative MP, said he has another worry, in addition to the environmental and navigational concerns. 

"The third one is bureaucratic — that the boat might not be removed anytime soon and that's the primary reason that I joined Bill Oliver today in voicing our concerns — to focus attention on this problem, so it's not studied to death, but in fact, it is acted upon as quickly as possible."

Man in sunglasses sits on a tub on the deck of a sailboat, smoking a cigarette.    In January, boat owner Jordan Tatton said he looked forward to returning to his boat and the hot tub. (Submitted by Jordan Tatton)

The boat's owner, Jordan Tatton, did not respond to interview requests. 

In an interview in January, however, Tatton said his boat was definitely not abandoned. In fact, at that time, he had planned to spend the winter on it.  

He also dismissed concerns about his boat, confident it would survive the winter. 

By that time, local residents had been expressing concerns about the sailboat for months — even long before the river froze. 

A double-masted sailboat is frozen into the ice on a body of water.  Sailboat frozen into the ice on the St. John River near Browns Flat on Jan. 9, 2024. The Not a Starship as seen on Jan. 9, 2024, frozen into the ice of the St. John River near Browns Flat. (Michael Heenan/CBC)

They worried about the environmental damage should the boat sink, since it was equipped with a diesel engine, a generator, and the batteries necessary to operate the solar panels. 

Even at the time the boat started to sink in February, the Coast Guard said it wasn't concerned about pollution.

Within days of it sinking, a spokesperson said there was a "minimal amount of non-persistent oils" on the vessel, meaning the type of fuel on board would have evaporated from the surface of the water within 48 hours.

Double-masted sailboat submerged in ice nearly to the top of the roof of the cabin and surrounded by a circle of brownish water and then white ice outside the circle.  Not a Starship frozen on Feb. 14 as it sank into the ice. (Roger Cosman/CBC)

Williamson said the boat's been on the bottom long enough. 

"I understand that fuels do evaporate and they can have minimum impact on the environment," he said in an interview on Wednesday. "Having said that, I do not want this studied to death."

Williamson and Oliver both said they've received a lot of messages from concerned constituents. 

Two masts sticking out of the water in a river, far from shore.  Not a Starship on April 11 in front of Beulah Camp on the St. John River. (Roger Cosman/CBC)

"I've also received many emails from boaters — mostly sailors and power boaters — that use the river on a regular basis that would just like to see the boat gone," said Oliver. 

He said there are already boats out on the river — and he expects the number to increase quickly as conditions improve. Most will not be on the lookout for large metal poles sticking out of the water, he said.

"These are just the tips of the masts that might not be visible — in the evening, they certainly wouldn't be," Oliver said. "So no, it's a concern, there's no question about it."

ABOUT THE AUTHOR

Mia Urquhart is a journalist with CBC New Brunswick, based in Saint John. She can be reached at mia.urquhart@cbc.ca.

 
 
 
67 Comments
 
 
David Amos
Deja Vu Anyone? This was in the news on my birthday the year after I had run for public office the last time 
 
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/irving-whale-deal-reached-1.249709 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to David Amos 
"Ottawa has reached a $5 million out-of-court settlement over the recovery of the Irving Whale.

The oil tank barge, owned by JD Irving Ltd, sank of PEI 30 years ago.

It was lifted off the ocean floor in 1996 by the Canadian Coast Guard after concerns about a large-scale spill from the oil in the barge's hold.

The settlement was announced Monday and should end further legal battles over who should pay for the $42 million cleanup.

JD Irving has already paid approximately $4 million toward the recovery and cleanup of the Irving Whale."

 
David Amos
Reply to David Amos 
Now some folks may understand why I think this nonsense is Too Too Funny 
 

 
David Amos

Too Too Funny 
 
 
Benoit Boudreau  

Reply to David Amos 
Now you're laughing alone at your own jokes?  
 
 
David Amos

Reply to Benoit Boudreau   
Methinks you should rethink that considering the fact that I am now laughing at you as well N'esy Pas? 
 
 
David Amos

Reply to David Amos  
Why is it that nothing surprises me anymore?
 
 
Al Clark

Reply to Benoit Boudreau 
Split personality?
 
 
David Amos

Reply to Al Clark   
Surprise Surprise Surprise He flags my replies just like you often do




David Amos
I wonder what would happen if I pulled a "Mary Ellen Carter" stunt 
 
 

David Amos
IMHO The are lots of folks who are very capable of making that boat float again

I have no doubt they are waiting to see if they have the legal right to do so

 
David Amos
Reply to David Amos  
I have every right to contact these people as well

"Both Oliver and Williams called on Transport Minister Pablo Rodriguez and Fisheries Minister Diane Lebouthillier to "overrule their departments and use the federal powers granted to them under the Wrecked, Abandoned or Hazardous Vessels Act to remove this wreck immediately."

 
 
 
Wilbur Ross  
Meh. People used to put old cars out on the ice and bet on when they would sink. But the Tories are environmentalists now.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Wilbur Ross   
I dove and got the registration out of the glove box of an old Buick at the bottom of Grand Lake 40 years ago I bet its still there
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Wilbur Ross  
BTW the fella who was with me that day was the son of the local MLA and a former boss of NB Power
 
 
Wilbur Ross 
Reply to David Amos  
It bad but its not the end of the world. Boats sink sometimes.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Wilbur Ross  
Its was Buick not a boat
 
 
Wilbur Ross 
Reply to David Amos  
Oh I know. I used to drive across everyday from the Peninsula. I've seen a tow truck go down.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Wilbur Ross  
Where do you think I live?
 
 
Wilbur Ross 
Reply to David Amos  
Just nice to see the Tories care about the environment now. Things are going to be very different from now on I bet.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Wilbur Ross  
They were not long dealing with this
 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Wilbur Ross   
"Awaiting review" 
 
 
 
 
Lou Bell  
MTwo Tory politicians ..... . Meanwhile , no concern from the Liberals . And of the pretty blue / green / yellow oil slick .
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Lou Bell 
Say Hey to your buddies for me will ya? 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Lou Bell  
I suspect Higgy has seen a lot of oil slicks  
 
 
 
Lou Bell  
I'm sure there's a Fed program where this person could apply and get paid for " raising the ship " . Like with CanApp , a nother company of 2 could get paid a large piece of the program , probably around 64 million to monitor the program .
 
 
David Amos

Reply to Lou Bell  
Time to bake some more butter tarts before closing time eh?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Lou Bell   
Yea Right
 
 
 
 
B Johnny Kalibanos  
Yes. Take it to LPC headquarters. Very symbolic of that party and where they are taking this country.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to B Johnny Kalibanos  
I presume you mean the sunken boat
 
 
David Amos
Reply to B Johnny Kalibanos  
However methinks things are not all that hunky dory with their opposition N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
Frank Blacklock Sorry, they spent too much on consultants, UNRWA, and sole sourced contracts for buddies. No money left for Coast Guard, help with roads, or proper funded healthcare.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Frank Blacklock 
All the Feds have to do is print more 
 
 
 
Anne Bochan
So. here's to all good salvagers, likewise to Ripper Rock and to Napoleon Brandy of which now we have much stock.

We eat a lot of chicken and sit on a couch of blue and we wait for Ripper Rock to claim another Not a Starship ll. oh the lovely Not a Starship ll

 
David Amos

Reply to Anne Bochan
Time for your nap? 
 

David Amos
Reply to Anne Bochan 
???
 
 
 
B Johnny Kalibanos  
Very symbolic of feds and where they are taking this country.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to B Johnny Kalibanos   
How so?
 
 
 
james bolt 
political photo op
 
 
David Amos
Reply to james bolt   
It was a dandy
 
 
 
Walter Vrbetic 
Not a con supporter and it shouldn't be a political issue.

- the boat is a hazard.

- its federal navigable waters.

- get it out and bill the last owner.

 
David Amos
Reply to Walter Vrbetic 
Ditto
 
 
 
Jim Lake
The only thing Williamson has done for his riding since being elected. Perhaps he should contribute his salary to the cost of raising it - his constituents need to get something of value for all he gets paid.
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to Jim Lake 
Amen

David Amos 
Reply to Jim Lake
FYI I encountered Oliver in 2004 when he was working for the Speaker and Williamson in 2005 when he was the head of the Taxpayer Federation
 
 
 
 
Noel Fowles
Oliver probably looks at that and thinks of his chances in the next provincial election
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Noel Fowles
The Speaker quite likely has a cottage in the area and his neighours are no doubt asking him why don't he do his job and say something
 
 
 
Greg Miller   
By all means and get the owner to pick up the tab!
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Greg Miller 
I concur
 
 
 
Al Clark
Just. Remove. It.

How long would they wring their hands if he abandoned his car in the middle of the road?

Companies exist in SJ that could do it in an afternoon. Or use the coast guard boats as a training exercise.

Sell it for costs. It should still have most of it's value. Even the electronics may have survived a dunking in mostly fresh water.

 
David Amos

Reply to Al Clark    
You appear to have connections with the Feds Why not pull some strings instead of just yapping about it?

"Last month, an official with Transport Canada said if the boat wasn't removed by the owner by April 30, it would be "deemed as abandoned under the Wrecked, Abandoned or Hazardous Vessels Act, and the owner could face enforcement actions, including monetary penalties."

This week, Transport Canada spokesperson Katherine Proulx said a department official made a visit Wednesday to Not a Starship to "assess the situation." She was asked for more details about the assessment but has not yet responded. " 

 
Al Clark

Reply to David Amos
"You appear to have connections with the Feds" ooookay then ;-)

I pay taxes, therefore I am connected?

The Trans minister means; we don't care, sounds like work.

 
David Amos

Reply to Al Clark  
You are a rather outspoken liberal living in the area Correct?   
 
 
David Amos

Reply to Al Clark 
There ya go again 
 
 
 
 
Benoit Boudreau   
Conservatives: "Climate change is a hoax!"

Also Conservatives, when it comes to their boats: "Save the environment!"

 
David Amos 
Reply to Benoit Boudreau   
Not funny Keep trying   
 
 
ralph jacobs 
Reply to Benoit Boudreau   
Probably there is much more damage from oil and gas leaking into the water than the boat's motor running. And don't forget the carbon tax was paid on the gas so it's okay to burn it.
 
 
Jim Lake 
Reply to David Amos  
You’re right - it’s not funny because it’s true. 
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to Jim Lake  
Did you laugh at what this dude said to yesterday?
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to Benoit Boudreau  
BTW Although the Powers That Be erased what you posted about me yesterday your pals posted it again  



 
Robert Brannen  
I can't imagine any Conservative constituents would be concerned by environmental degradation matters, and I cannot that these two would carry the concerns of non-Conservative constituents forward. I have to ask myself: Just with whom have they been interacting?
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to Robert Brannen  
Rich folks 



Frank Wadden   
Good old days we'd haul it out and use it for target practice then bill the owner the cost of the shells! We've gone to soft. 
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to Frank Wadden 
Yup
 
 
 
Rusty Shackleford  
He seems like a class A winner. Facial tattoos are always a sure sign of intelligence.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Rusty Shackleford 
Perhaps my MP and our Speaker should get facial tattoos too 
 
 
 
 
Max Ruby  
If they took it out themselves and sold it would it be the same as the guy who fixed the pot holes:

- 'Pothole vigilante' of Saint John, N.B. ordered to unfix the road craters he fixed

 
David Amos
Reply to Max Ruby 
Welcome back to the circus 
 
 
 
Charles Neal 
and guess who gets stuck paying for its removal 
 
 
Peter Foster 
Reply to Charles Neal 
Who is that?? Tax payers?? Thats how government works.  
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Peter Foster
Bingo
 
 
 
 
 

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