Saturday, 1 January 2022

The buzz in Saint-André: An inside look at bitcoin mining in rural New Brunswick


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/saint-andre-bitcoin-mining-hive-1.6293906 

 

The buzz in Saint-André: An inside look at bitcoin mining in rural New Brunswick

This cryptocurrency mining operation in province's northwest requires thousands of computers

For the last several months, the Vancouver-based company Hive Blockchain Technologies has been building four highly specialized warehouses that will host thousands of computers.

Those individual computers are known as "miners," and they run 24 hours a day to make their owners bitcoin.

"When this facility is complete, we'll have about 18,000 of these machines operating," said Aydin Kilic, the president and chief operating officer of Hive. "It's almost one per cent of the entire bitcoin mining network is going to be right here in Saint-André." 
 
Aydin Kilic, the president and chief operating officer of Hive Blockchain Technologies, showcases 'a miner,' a small computer specifically designed for mining bitcoin. (Shane Fowler/CBC News)

Bitcoin is a type of cryptocurrency, a digital form of money that has risen in value and popularity around the globe in the last decade. Instead of a physical currency, bitcoin is strictly digital.

Bitcoin also operates without a central banking system. Instead, all bitcoin transactions are tallied on a digital ledger called the blockchain. 

Bitcoin mining operations like the one in Saint-Andre act as the bank for bitcoin, constantly tallying the worldwide transactions on the blockchain. Bitcoin mining operations are made up of hundreds, often thousands, of computers creating a decentralized banking network.

The reward for tallying those transactions is bitcoin. And the more computers a person or company dedicates to tallying those transactions, the more bitcoin is paid out.

That's why Hive has built bitcoin mines in Quebec, Sweden and Iceland, and is finishing construction in Saint-André.

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Two of the buildings in Saint-André are complete, while technicians are now installing 100 metres of computers, stacked seven high, in a third.

Construction workers are heating the frozen ground and pouring the foundations of a fourth building, which Kilic expects will be completed in the first half of next year. 

Once completed, Kilic said, he expects the entire facility to mine about five bitcoin a day. 

Over the past year, a single bitcoin has been valued between $30,000 and $85,000 Cdn. 

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Some people might assume such an operation would be more at home in Silicon Valley. Why build one in a northern New Brunswick community of fewer than 1,000 people? 

According to Kilic, the decision came down to four factors: a favourable tax rate, stable government, access to affordable electricity, and most important, the temperature. 

"If you want to talk about optimal environments, well, Saint-André is optimal, and we love it here," Kilic said. "We've got cool, dry temperatures." 

Hive has two warehouses full of bitcoin miners in operation, with a third being completed. A forth warehouse, on the right, is expected to be completed in the spring of 2022. (Shane Fowler/CBC News)

Each exterior wall of the warehouses features massive slats that allow cool outside air to drift inside.

That air wafts through a wall of filter paper that runs the entire length of the building. The cold filtered air then flows directly into the mining computers, cooling them.

Once that air is heated by the computer processors, it's pushed toward the centre of the building by the fans built into each miner. It then exits through the roof of the building. It's all done without ductwork or fans, other than the ones built into each computer. 

"We've got a beautiful passive design," Kilic said. "A very novel design where we use the cool, dry climate without having to have air conditioning." 

With thousands of computers running non-stop, the heat that is generated is tropical, even to Saint-André Mayor Marcel Levesque, who has toured the plant.

"It's crazy, it's crazy," said Levesque. "You never imagine seeing so many computers in a building. Never." 

Vancouver-based Hive Blockchain Technologies employs 70 people from the Saint-André area as it constructs its bitcoin mining plant. Once completed, the operation will provide about 20 full-time positions. (Shane Fowler/CBC News)

Air conditioning would also contribute to the astronomical amount of power being used. According to Kilic,the mining operation will eventually consume about the same amount of electricity used to power more than 7,000 homes.  

"In total, the four-building campus will be 70 megawatts when it's complete," said Kilic.

Being in an area near where electricity is generated — at the Grand Falls, Tobique Narrows and Sisson dams — also factored into the decision to build in Saint-André. It's also near where N.B. Power transmission lines intersect, ensuring plenty of electricity for the power-hungry plant. 

A few new jobs

Currently, Hive employs about 70 people. Most are from the Saint-André and Grand Falls area, and are involved in construction. When it's completed, Kilic expects the operation will employ 20 people, who will work mostly to maintain the miners and for security. 

They includes Luc Ouellette from Grand Falls, who said that even though he's worked at Hive for nearly two years, his friends and family still have a hard time understanding what he does for a living. 

Luc Ouellette, Hive’s regional director in New Brunswick, is from nearby Grand Falls. He's been working on the bitcoin mining project for nearly two years. (Shane Fowler/CBC News)

"They don't even know, most of them," said Luc Ouellette, Hive's regional director in New Brunswick. "I tell them what we're doing here, and they really want to visit us and see what's going on. 

"It's a big opportunity for us to work locally with next-generation stuff. Being part of that is great." 

ABOUT THE AUTHOR

Shane Fowler

Reporter

Shane Fowler has been a CBC journalist based in Fredericton since 2013.

 

 

85 Comments
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
David Amos
Things have changed

N.B. Power hits pause on large new electricity customers during crypto review

2 mines, 1 open and 1 cancelled, would use more electricity than proposed small nuclear reactor can generate

Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: May 01, 2023 6:00 AM ADT 

 
David Amos 
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4.11quote price arrow down-0.30 (-6.80%)

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David Amos
"It's crazy, it's crazy," said Levesque.

Methinks we have used the same expression but for different reasons N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
  
David Amos
Methinks Mr Musk my ISP guy and the clever dude who built my son's fancy car may disagree with these dudes N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/tesla-bitcoin-payment-1.6024633
 
 
Marguerite Deschamps
They also mine Ether David. But true, a crash in ₿itcoin would spell bad news for Hive.
 
 
Denis Reagan
Reply to @David Amos:
N'est-ce-pas?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Denis Reagan: So you say as is your right.

However I say it and write it my way in New Brunswick and Louisiana. Trust that mes très chers amis on both sides of the Medicine line and I just chuckle at the snobby people who look down on our chosen lingo.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks its gonna be a Not So Happy New Year for many greedy people. However I trust that you know why I will enjoy the circus N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Marguerite Deschamps
 
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🇧 🇴 🇳 🇳 🇪 🇦 🇳 🇳 🇪 🇪 🇦 🇹 🇴 🇺 🇸❗
 
 
Marcel Belanger
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Bonne et heureuse année a vous 🎉🎉🎉🥂
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Now it is
 
 
 
 
 
Roy Kirk
Did they get an incentive rate from NB Power, or are they paying the 'full' industrial rate? Or the full commercial rate?    
 
 
David Amos
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N.B. Power hits pause on large new electricity customers during crypto review

2 mines, 1 open and 1 cancelled, would use more electricity than proposed small nuclear reactor can generate

Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: May 01, 2023 6:00 AM ADT 

 
David Amos
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Deja Vu Anyone?

Utilities board denies request by J.D. Irving Ltd. to broaden upcoming N.B. Power hearing

Company says millions of dollars in power costs assigned to industry need shifting to residential customers

Robert Jones · CBC News · Posted: Apr 21, 2023 6:00 AM ADT

Roy Kirk

. . . And millions of dollars currently paid by small residential customers should properly be shifted to larger residential customers who drive the costs through their large peak coincident loads. But it's not going to happen!

NB Power's cost allocations and rate designs have historically been too heavily influenced by political considerations and skewed towards the economic interests of the utility.

And let's not get started on the rationale for NB Power customers subsidizing bitcoin mining.

 
David Amos 
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David Amos 
Reply to Roy Kirk

Methinks folks may recall I had some fun with that on New Years Eve not so long ago N'esy Pas?

The buzz in Saint-André: An inside look at bitcoin mining in rural New Brunswick

This cryptocurrency mining operation in province's northwest requires thousands of computers

Shane Fowler · CBC News · Posted: Dec 31, 2021 7:00 AM AST

 
 
 
 
 
Alex Stevens
So much for being concerned about the environment, burning of fossil fuels, carbon footprints, etc. Maybe, a better use for all that power, would be to use it to power over 7000 homes.
 
 
Rob Franklin
Reply to @Alex Stevens: It might have worked if they had designed a recovery and delivery system in this new construction. But alas, that would cost money wouldn't it.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Alex Stevens: I Wholeheartedly Agree Sir
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Rene Cusson
All that work and environmental and power wasted...all to get into a fad money that has no backing at all that you can't even use in daily life. Since you have to turn crypto back into regular money in order to DO anything (stores do not take crypto), this isn't a "currency" it's simply "investing in a <whatever> and hoping to sell it for more later". If you can't buy a single apple or gas for the car with it, then it's useless, so if you have to trade it back into normal "money" later on, then you just confirmed it's not a currency.

The only difference is your invested <whatever> in this case does not physically even exist, pretending they do costs thousands in computer resources and wasted electricity needlessly, and the only people who would think to accept them are just a few other crypto-chasers. Might as well invest in Pokemon cards or collector Lego sets, at least they physical exist and you don't have to waste megawatts of power "mining" them.
 
 
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Rene Cusson: Most country currencies have to be turned back into some other currency as one moves along and most of them lose substantial value to the point that some countries (San Salvador, for one) are adopting cryptos as their currency.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Fools and their money are soon parted.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Michel Pelletier
We will be paying more for electricity down the road. Cypto is not money it's probably a fade.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Michel Pelletier: Yup
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
danny rugg
Dumb things humans did , someday a chapter in a history book.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @danny rugg: True
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Allan J Whitney
We DO need more power consumption to accelerate burning New Brunswick forests to generate "green" power.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Allan J Whitney: Surely you jest
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Alison Jackson
"Climate change? Nothing to see here!" cried all of the Bitcoin possessed citizens constantly shaming everyone online for not doing their part in reducing needless power consumption.

These guys remind me of those goldminers who went to the Yukon back in the 1800's to strike it rich. Most of them invested everything they had and died broke and penniless.
 
 
Ghaba Gool
Reply to @Alison Jackson: I think you are missing some understanding of the benefits. If you are interested, check out the short doc called "This Machine Greens". You can find it on youtube.

Bitcoin mining can often be set up to make sustainable energy projects more feasible such as a hydroelectric project. If there doesn't exist the demand for the power generated, **at all times of day**, the project may be considered unprofitable or unfeasible.The Bitcoin network is the buyer of last demand and can take up any excess power when consumers are not demanding it. This counterintuitively lowers the cost of electricity for consumers as the grid is balanced.

Remember, simply using power is not bad for the environment. It all depends how the power is created. 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Ghaba Gool: Dream on
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Wayne Hodges
They forgot to talk about the contractors that didn’t get paid or almost went bankrupt building the first three buildings
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Wayne Hodges: Thats interesting Please do tell more
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Pierre Cyr
Maybe the demand for power will get NBPower to go ahead with that expanded hydro project on the local dam. But yes proof of work is power demanding which is why most coins are moving to proof of stake. It wont be a significant issue in a few years.
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Pierre Cyr: Hush now Please don't give Higgy and Mikey Holland any more crazy ideas to employ within the mandate of Bill 77
 
 
Danny Debdee
Reply to @David Amos: Gaetan and NB Power had plans to use excess power produced at PLNG in 2017. If they would of gone forward with this plan, NBP would be in a much better position. Unfortunately, they listened to old boomers like yourself and missed out on an opportunity of a lifetime.
 
 
Pierre Cyr
Reply to @Danny Debdee: Local story here is that the company had to partner with NBPower to build extra generating capacity. I thought this article would have shed light on that. It was long rumored that an expansion for the hydro damn to generate an extra 100 mw on top of the current ~66 mw was in the works. Im wondering what will happen to the site if bitcoin moves to proof of stake instead of proof of work like most altcoins are doing. Hopefully they can repurpose it...
 
 
carlos gaspar
Reply to @Pierre Cyr: in ocean falls, bc, the old lumbermill dam has been repurposed for a bit mining operation...
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Danny Debdee: Methinks you must have checked my work within the EUB Nesy Pas?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks it must be a big faux pas to even mention Bill 77 N'esy Pas?
 
 




 
Danny Debdee
Bitcoin and crypto is the future of money and finance. Those who are spouting off about it contributing to climate change or how it is a fad, are uninformed
 
 
Sean Pendragon
Reply to @Danny Debdee: please explain how so
 
 
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Sean Pendragon: Too complicated to explain. Small 🧠 would never understand.
 
 
David Amos
 
 
Marguerite Deschamps
It demonstrates how hard these codes are to crack.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: So?
 
 
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Amos: I suppose of the dude dies, the secret dies with him. And poof goes the ₿itcoin❗
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: A clever crook is still a crook Furthermore are you certain he is truly dead?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Les Cooper
Mining in NB. Isn't that a big No No??
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Les Cooper: LMAO
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Corrie Weatherfield
The article says . . . "Instead of a physical currency, bitcoin is strictly digital." . . . sorry, but is that not true of most "traditional" currency already ? Who pays cash anymore? I think bitcoin etc is a scam from beginning to end.
 
 
Winston Gray
Reply to @Corrie Weatherfield: cash is based off gold, lol
 
 
Fred Sanford
Reply to @Winston Gray: Hasn't been so since 1971.
 
 
Corrie Weatherfield
Reply to @Winston Gray: . . . well . . . that was quite a while ago . . . when the US was on the gold standard I believe the fixed price of gold was $35. an ounce . . . probably there was a move to allow speculation on gold because of some government ideas and "inflation" . . . in any case gold is no longer set at $35. an ounce and has not been for many years
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Corrie Weatherfield: "I think bitcoin etc is a scam from beginning to end. "

Me Too
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Winston Gray: Nope its based on debt
 
 
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Amos: The same as government fiat.  
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Have ever checked my work?
 
 
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Amos: Out hero Elon stated that cryptos are worthless and so is💲. And I concur.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: I guess not
 
 
 
 
 

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