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David Raymond Amos Versus The Crown T-1557-15



                                                                                             Court File No. T-1557-15

FEDERAL COURT

BETWEEN:                      
DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
                                                                                                  Plaintiff
and

HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
                                                                                                  Defendant

STATEMENT OF CLAIM

The Parties

1.      HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN (Crown) is Elizabeth II, the Queen of England, the Protector of the Faith of the Church of England, the longest reigning monarch of the United Kingdom and one of the wealthiest persons in the world. Canada pays homage to the Queen because she remained the Head of State and the Chief Executive Officer of Canada after the Canada Act 1982 (U.K.) 1982, c. 11 came into force on April 17, 1982. The standing of the Queen in Canada was explained within the 2002 Annual Report FORM 18-K filed by Canada with the United States Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC). It states as follows:

     “The executive power of the federal Government is vested in the Queen, represented by the Governor General, whose powers are exercised on the advice of the federal Cabinet, which is responsible to the House of Commons. The legislative branch at the federal level, Parliament, consists of the Crown, the Senate and the House of Commons.”

     “The executive power in each province is vested in the Lieutenant Governor, appointed by the Governor General on the advice of the federal Cabinet. The Lieutenant Governor’s powers are exercised on the advice of the provincial cabinet, which is responsible to the legislative assembly. Each provincial legislature is composed of a Lieutenant Governor and a legislative assembly made up of members elected for a period of five years.”    

 

 

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166-year-old Fredericton 'gem' faces possible demolition

St. John the Evangelist Church was built on Main Street in 1855 and deconsecrated last month

The former St. John the Evangelist Anglican Church on Main Street needs a new roof, and provincial officials have found dangerously high levels of mould inside the building.

It's also surrounded by gravesites that lie within inches of its walls, and there's little room to create parking next to the building.

However, in a bid to keep the 166-year-old building standing, congregation members, in collaboration with the Fredericton Heritage Trust, have issued a request for proposals in the hopes that a charity or non-profit will repurpose the deconsecrated church.

"The Fredericton Heritage Trust approached us with what we feel is a very constructive approach, and offering to help us with a process that they would have more experience with than us," said Bill MacKenzie, a warden with the church.

Arches framing the old church's windows could be used as part of a memorial to the building if it ultimately gets demolished, said St. John the Evangelist Anglican Church warden Bill MacKenzie. (Aidan Cox/CBC)

The two groups are calling for a proposal that would see the building leased out on a long-term basis, with the proponent taking the responsibility to rehabilitate and maintain it going forward.

The request for proposals also comes with the condition that "any tenant must ensure that no alcohol, cigarette, or other like substances will be sold or served on the premises."

MacKenzie said the ideal applicant would be a charity or nonprofit that does community outreach, historical work or promotes the arts.

"With enough resources that … the building would not continue to be a financial burden on the congregation."

Part of the basement contains exposed earth, which has been blamed for the mold problems now plaguing the church building. (Aidan Cox/CBC)

A part of city's Loyalist past

The St. John the Evangelist Anglican Church was built in 1855 and consecrated the year after by Rt. Rev. Bishop John Medley, the same man who consecrated the Christchurch Anglican Cathedral and St. Anne's Anglican Chapel of Ease on the city's south side.

The church served Anglicans in the Nashwaaksis area for over a century, until the parish decided to build a new and bigger church across the street, which has been the primary place of worship since 2002.

The old church was deconsecrated last month.

The former St. John the Evangelist Anglican Church served as the primary place of worship for the congregation from 1856 until a new church was built in 2002. (Aidan Cox/CBC)

Jeremy Mouat, president of the Fredericton Heritage Trust, said the church's construction followed the wave of British Loyalists who moved north following the American Revolution.

"The Anglican Church was a key entity associated with the colonial government and playing a really significant role," he said.

Mouat said he holds the old St. John the Evangelist church in similar esteem to the two other old stone-cut Anglican churches on the city's south side.

To have it demolished, he said, would be a significant loss for the city's heritage.

"We only have to walk around the downtown plat from the cathedral in the green to the downtown, to see … how important those churches are.

"And St. John the Evangelist over the north side is just is a gem, and it would be, be really tragic if we lost it, if we couldn't come up with a better use than to tear it to pieces."

Graves are set just inches away from the old church building, which church warden Bill MacKenzie says would make any foundation work difficult. (Aidan Cox/CBC)

The deadline to submit proposals is July 31, at which time the church will consider them and make a decision by the end of August, MacKenzie said.

If no appropriate proposals are received, the church will be demolished and a memorial will be erected in its place.

The adjacent cemetery will remain unaffected by the request for proposals, or any potential demolition, he said.

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Aidan Cox is a web writer for the CBC based in Fredericton. He can be reached at aidan.cox@cbc.ca and followed on Twitter @Aidan4jrn.

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61 Comments  
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Wendy Simon
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Welcome to NB..the top province for ripping down historic buildings. Why do some minorities have to live in the past and dredge up old history when everyone else loses their identity and history? Seems unfair to me
 
Jeff Leblanc
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Reply to @Wendy Simon: because the entire notion of organized religion is the biggest scam of all time and folks need to be constantly reminded of the atrocities. #neverforget. 
 
Lou Bell  
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Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: Sure ! Your hero from WW II was not a religious man . 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Bill MacLean
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It us a sad reality for our historical buildings. The cost to keep them safe and functional can be prohibitive. There should be dignity in the death of such a proud and important building. Seal her up, wave the usual government leans and keep her as a land mark to celebrate our forefathers (Unless, of course, the Woke community finds reason to completely disrespect her).
 
JOhn D Bond 
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Reply to @Bill MacLean: Not sure how an object every has dignity in death. Sounds nice but not reality. I think that is the challenge. For some remembrance of this building means something. For others nothing at all. What appears to be the case but maybe not. The church and congregation are unwilling or unprepared to purchase and maintain it themselves. Which is where the problem resides. For those that it means the most to, they want to keep it but don't appear to want to pay for it which does not seem reasonable.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
Dave Grippo
How much? I'd buy that in a heart beat. It's beautiful. Is it ok people from New Brunswick that a Torontonian buys the church?
 
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Dave Grippo: What are your plans for restoring and maintaining it? That's going to be the crunch. Because if you buy it now and then find out it's more expensive to restore and maintain than you can afford, we're going to end up with a church for which demolition is the only option. We've already seen this happen with a beautiful old church in Saint John.
 
Dave Grippo
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Reply to @SarahRose Werner: I'm going to turn it into a brothel. I also wouldn't buy it if I couldn't afford it. I live within my means. 
 
Teri Baxter 
Reply to @Dave Grippo: excellent idea. Been a few years since we've had one in the area, I'm sure.

 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Corey McBates
seebeesee, why delete 3 of my comments?. Nothing in any of them was inflammatory in any way….
 
phil mckay
Reply to @Corey McBates: they delete a lot of mine when i link directly to higgs…almost like an editor and a party exec of premier office official talk to each other
 
phil mckay
Reply to @Corey McBates: they take political directives like the rcmp do
 
phil mckay
Reply to @phil mckay: but they dont call it instructions…
 
Lou Bell
Reply to @phil mckay: It's quite obvious CBC is Liberal enabled . Try again . 
 
Teri Baxter 
Reply to @Corey McBates: we're not allowed to express our opinions on here. Truth hurts. 
 
Michael Cain
Reply to @Corey McBates: 3 cheers for seebeesee! 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

 

Jeff Leblanc 
One less church, active or not, is always a good thing! God never said "show up every Sunday and donate your hard earned money or suffer an eternity in hell"...it was man who cooked up that scam. 
 
Lou Bell
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: Funny thing about that , all those monies went / go towrds helping the needy and disadvantaged , while those who denigrate religion contribute nothing to the needy . 
 
Lou Bell
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: You lose all credibility with your denigrating statements . One just need look at what churches ( see the Salvation Army as an e.g. ) do during Xmas to help the needy . Churches now more than ever have opened their doors to those in need , providing warming centers to the homeless during cold winter days when the shelters are closed , and providing food for them . Denigrating the Church while flaunting ones self proclaimed importance doesn't look good on anyone !
 
JOhn D Bond  
Reply to @Lou Bell: The challenge in general with churches, they are not always transparent.
"[Anglican Journal (Anglican Church of Canada)] An unaudited financial statement released to Council of General Synod (CoGS) from the church’s financial management committee shows investment income helping propel General Synod to a surplus of about $3.6 million — on a total budget of $8.6 million — for 2021."
While it looks like a church, and to people that have been to in the past it was a church but it has been deconsecrated by the church so it no longer is a church. Just an older building that has been neglected for years,
There no longer is a religious component to this building.
 
Michael Cain 
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: they just moved across the street
 
Michael Cain 
Reply to @Lou Bell: I don't think he is flaunting his self-proclaimed importance; the comment is of no importance
 
Lou Bell
Reply to @Michael Cain: " one less church is a good thing " . I would guarantee that church does a lot more for the needy than what he does as would most all others . 
 
Michael Cain
Reply to @Lou Bell: a church without people is just a building; the church moved across the street. Cry me a river. 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

St. John the Evangelist Church

74 Main Street, Fredericton, New Brunswick, E3A, Canada

Formally Recognized: 2007/12/10

St. John the Evangelist Church, showing west side view of building and surrounding cemetery; City of Fredericton
St. John the Evangelist Church, west side view
St. John the Evangelist Church, frontage on the south side of Main Street; City of Fredericton
St. John the Evangelist, north side view
Image showing rear façade and cemetry; City of Fredericton
St. John the Evangelist, south side view

Other Name(s)

n/a

Links and documents

Construction Date(s)

1856/01/01

Listed on the Canadian Register: 2009/07/20

Statement of Significance

Description of Historic Place

St. John the Evangelist Church, with its adjacent cemetery, is situated on the south side of Main Street on the north side of Fredericton. Bishop John Medley consecrated the “little stone church”, its construction based upon John Henry Hokeswell’s design plans, in 1856.

Heritage Value

The construction of St. John the Evangelist Church represents Bishop John Medley’s influence and his ecclesiastical vision for New Brunswick. Bishop Medley, who arrived from England in 1845, intended to spread Anglicanism throughout New Brunswick with the construction of Gothic Revival churches.

The heritage value of St. John the Evangelist also resides in its construction material and style. A Gothic Revival church built of stone was rare in New Brunswick at the time of its construction during the mid-1850s. The church, which was originally intended to be built of wood, was constructed using local stone. This church reflects Bishop Medley’s intertwining of architecture and sacred space. When Bishop Medley consecrated St. John the Evangelist in March 1856, he described the church as a “gem of architecture”.

The construction of this church demonstrates the liturgical needs of the local community. Discussion concerning the construction of a church began in 1851, when it was decided that families in the lower part of Douglas Parish had for too long been “destitute of church privileges”. The original plans, which were drawn in 1852, were altered in 1853 by John Henry Hokeswell of London, England and called for a stone church. One particular family played a prominent role in the construction of the church. The Robinsons, who were descended from Loyalist stock and owned considerable property between Nashwaaksis and Douglas, provided both the land and the stone necessary for the construction. Major Fred Robinson and his wife donated the land upon which the church was constructed, and a quantity of stone had been culled from the Robinson family quarry. In 1897, Beverly A. Robinson and his wife deeded a parcel of land on the lower side of St. John the Evangelist as a burial plot for his Lordship H.T. Kingdon, Bishop of Fredericton.

Source: City of Fredericton Historic Places Files, “St. John the Evangelist Church”

Character-Defining Elements

The character-defining elements associated with the Neo-Gothic style of St. John the Evangelist church include:
- manicured lawn and grounds;
- adjacent cemetery;
- one-and-a-half storey local stone structure;
- period furnishings inside the church include a butternut altar, chancel chairs, and pulpit in Gothic Revival style;
- small stone font inside the church;
- original entrance porch on the north side of the church;
- single lancets along the nave;
- double lancet windows at eastern and western ends of structure;
- original glass in the double lancet window at the eastern end of the structure;
- the small, inset, four sided star window, positioned above the double lancet window at the western end of structure.

 
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