Friday 24 February 2023

EUB hearing room splits on endorsing N.B. Power's rate hike

Bonne nuit monde cruel

 
 

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Réponse automatique : Methinks Chief Martin Gaudet's buddy "Harvey York" has his nasty knickers in a knot tonight but at least CBC has deleted only one comment thus far N'esy Pas?

 

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Automatic reply: Methinks Chief Martin Gaudet's buddy "Harvey York" has his nasty knickers in a knot tonight but at least CBC has deleted only one comment thus far N'esy Pas?

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Friday, 24 February 2023

EUB hearing room splits on endorsing N.B. Power's rate hike
 

EUB hearing room splits on endorsing N.B. Power's rate hike

Public intervener and municipal utilities offer tepid support, business groups voice opposition

In a comprehensive address he apologized for taking two hours to deliver, N.B. Power lawyer John Furey said the utility had proven its need for an 8.9 per cent increase from New Brunswick customers.

"N.B. Power submits that the evidence demonstrates that the revenue requirement is reasonable and should be approved by the board," he said.

But speaking directly after Furey, J.D. Irving Ltd. lawyer Nancy Rubin urged the EUB to grant little of what is requested, based on the case the utility put forward. 

A woman in formal business attire bites her nails while holding a pen and looking forwards. J.D. Irving Ltd. lawyer Nancy Rubin built a case for a 0 per cent rate increase based on updated N.B. Power budget numbers but acknowledged that would not be in the public interest. She suggested a small increase be granted and applied to N.B. Power's financial obligations. (Jonathan Collicott/CBC News)

"The evidence in this proceeding suggests that the 8.9 per cent rate increase could be entirely or largely nullified," she said, just seconds into her own address.

The two-week rate hearing has been turning on the issue of how to deal with updated budget numbers requested by J.D. Irving Ltd. and reluctantly supplied by N.B. Power just this week. 

The new projections seemed to show the utility's revenues and expenses for next year had improved from when it first prepared a budget and asked for such a large rate increase. 

A side profile of a man with a beard looking down Acting Public Intervener Rick Williams endorsed a slight cut in the rate hike to 7.9 per cent, but expressed concern about N.B. Power getting much less than that. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

But the same numbers also showed N.B. Power is suffering huge and unexpected financial losses in the current year that might justify a big increase, even if next year's budget no longer does.

In his address, Furey urged the EUB to ignore the new information because it updates only part of N.B. Power's budget.  Alternatively, he said, if the update is to be considered, it should involve the entire update, including heavy losses being experienced in the current year.

"The financial position of N.B. Power has deteriorated significantly in the second and third quarters of [this] fiscal year," he said.

Piles of white paper documents on a white table The rate hearing involved more than 400 documents being placed in evidence. A decision is not expected for several weeks. (Jonathan Collicott/CBC)

Noting that the rate increase request was made before a December breakdown of the critical Point Lepreau nuclear generating station helped push debt levels at the utility above $5.3 billion, $380 million higher than last year, Furey said an even larger increase would likely have been asked for "if the current financial information were available to N.B. Power at the time it filed this application."

That position gained some sympathy from acting public intervener Rick Williams who suggested the new evidence should not be used "due to the poor performance" occurring this year.

A man wearing glasses and a suit and tie. There are people sitting behind him. Len Hoyt represented Twin Rivers Paper during the hearing and, like J.D. Irving Ltd., asked for the requested increase to be scaled back. (Jonathan Collicott/CBC)

Williams did question some expenses and suggested a 7.9 per cent increase might be sufficient for next year, but accepted that the overall financial health of N.B. Power is an urgent problem that needs to be addressed.

Scott Stoll, a lawyer representing New Brunswick's three municipal electric utilities in Saint John, Edmundston and Perth-Andover, said his clients do not like it, but support N.B. Power getting every penny it has asked for.

A woman with medium blond hair and wearing a blue blazer Heather Black is one of three EUB members who will rule on N.B. Power's rate increase. She said evidence heard in the case 'paints a sobering picture' of the utility's finances. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

"The last thing anyone wants is an 8.9 per cent rate increase," said Stoll.

"Reluctantly, we view the risk of further deterioration of N.B. Power's financial state … as too great to recommend any reduction in the requested increase."

But on the other side of the issue, Twin Rivers Paper and the Canadian Federation of Independent Business sided with Irving in asking for a reduction of some kind.

A man in a suit sits at a table with a microphone infront of him. Energy and Utilities Board chair Francois Beaulieu said he is aware of N.B. Power's desire to have new rates in place by April 1, but said given the complexities of the issues involved that might not happen. (Jonathan Collicott/CBC)

Rubin would not give a figure of what J.D. Irving considers reasonable for an increase, except to say 0 per cent is probably too low.

Francois Beaulieu, EUB chair said, he is aware of N.B. Power's desire to have new rates in place by April 1, but said given the complexities of the issues involved that might not happen.

"We are going to work diligently but there is a lot of material to review," he said.

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David Amos
Bonne nuit monde cruel
 
 
David Amos
  
For the Public Record last night when I was calling it a day two comment sections on this topic were still open and not closing until this morning. After supper and watching a movie I saw this article had been published. Rather than be redundant I posted two words everybody knows and watched another movie.

After that movie I saw that the cops in Fat Fred City had their fancy knickers in quite a knot and dealt with its just like I said I would. Now I that have the transcript its easy to see why. However the awful truth is nobody cares but June 7th is coming fast and all the lawyers know it.

 
 
David Amos   

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NEW BRUNSWICK ENERGY and UTILITIES BOARD

Matter 541

Relating to an application by New Brunswick Power Corporation pursuant to subsection 103(1) of the Electricity Act for approval of the Schedule of Rates for the fiscal year commencing April 1st 2023

Held at the Fredericton Convention Centre, Fredericton, N.B. on February 24, 2023.

CHAIRPERSON: Thank you, Mr. Williams. Ms. Wilson?

MS. WILSON: No questions for me. Thank you.

CHAIRPERSON: Ms. Black?

MS. BLACK: Just briefly, Mr. Williams. I note that you had mentioned in your discussion about net income and the importance of earning a stable net income. One of the points you make in your written argument and I believe you repeated it orally is the need for NB Power to recover the coming unfavourable variance account balance through rate riders.

MR. WILLIAMS: Yeah.

MS. BLACK: And you heard Ms. Rubin’s argument earlier today that, in her view, the Act excludes contemplation of rate riders from the rate setting process. And that sort of renders those considerations irrelevant. I just want to know if you agree with that or if you have any comments about that?

MR. WILLIAMS: I hadn’t -- she did mention that in the hallway and I hadn’t -- I hadn’t considered it. But I find it difficult for me to agree with that. But yet at -- you know, as she indicated, the variance accounts do protect NB Power as much as they protect ratepayers. But as far as, you know, whether I want to go -- you know, go out and put myself out there and agree with that, I can’t at this point in time without giving it more thought.

MS. BLACK: Okay. Thank you. 

 

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CHAIRPERSON: Thank you, Ms. Black. Thank you, Mr. Williams.

MR. WILLIAMS: Thank you.

CHAIRPERSON: So it has been the Board’s practice to provide an opportunity to -- in order to go in reverse order, to provide an opportunity to the interveners if they have any final submissions based on what they heard. So, Mr. Stoll, anything further?

MR. STOLL: I have no -- no rebuttal to Mr. Williams -- the evidence.

CHAIRPERSON: Thank you. Mr. Hoyt?

MR. HOYT: No, nothing further. Thanks.

CHAIRPERSON: Thank you. Ms. Rubin, anything further?

MS. RUBIN: Nothing further. Thank you.

CHAIRPERSON: Thank you. And Mr. Furey?

MR. FUREY: I do have a few comments, Mr. Chair. I recognize the lateness of the hour so I will be very brief.

 
 
 
 
David Amos 
Why are my comments being blocked the instant I click post?  
 
 
David Amos  
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For the record Higgy's buddies are not the only people who know how to blog Hell even the CBC sheople in Fredericton had one 2005 when they were locked out which still can be read to this very day EH?  
 
 
 
David Amos   
Bah Humbug
 
 
Harvey York
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All of NB was waiting with bated breath for you to ride in to the hearings on a sturdy white steed, flanked by your HQ homies.......but alas, twas not to be. Maybe next time.
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to Harvey York 
Methinks the Fat Fred City Finest is upset tonight N'esy Pas?  
 
 
Harvey York
Reply to David Amos  
I highly doubt that. If they are, it's certainly not because of you or me.  
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to Harvey York 
Ask your boss why  
 
 
Harvey York
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I asked my boss, he said "who is Dave Amos"?
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to Harvey York 
Its Mr Amos to the likes of you 

 
Harvey York
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Then I told him who Davie baby was. And we laughed, and laughed, and laughed. Too funny. 
 
 
Harvey York
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lol. Sure thing, Davie Baby.  
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to Harvey York  
Methinks you should help your Chief change his pampers then fetch him some butter tarts N'esy Pas?
 
 
Harvey York
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great comment, Davie...a true reflection of your intellect. Predictable is an understatement.
   
 
David Amos 
Reply to Harvey York 
 You and your Chief enjoyed my email today Of that I have no doubt

 
Harvey York
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I'm sure everyone you spam enjoys your emails. Great way to end the week for sure!
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to Harvey York
 When can I expect some more butter tarts in the mail?  
 
 
Harvey York
Reply to David Amos
I guess you'd have to ask your BF Cardy. I'm sure you have him on speed dial. Lol  
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to Harvey York
You sound like a jilted lover instead a tough talking cop without the sand to use his real name  
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to Harvey York
Have you read my latest blogs?  
 
 
Harvey York
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I'm not falling for that twice. Your blog is a piece of junk
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to Harvey York 
You are featured tonight  
 
 
Harvey York
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Oh no! Not another cut-and-paste from CBC on the ol' blog! Accompanied by a whole bunch of auto-reply emails! Oh, the humanity!  
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to Harvey York 
 Bingo 

 
Harvey York
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Well, I guess you showed me.....hahahaha  
 

David Amos 
Reply to Harvey York 
Nope you showed everyone your nasty arse All I said was Bah Humbug and you came running in Correct? 
 
 
Harvey York
Reply to David Amos
Well at least you go the chance to "blog" it! Hilarious
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to Harvey York 
 and email it then call about it .  
 
 
Harvey York
Reply to David Amos
Oh I see, tough enough to email and call, but not tough enough to show your face in F'ton. Wow. What a hero.  
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to Harvey York
I repeat say Hey to your boss  
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to Harvey York
How many full grown men have the time to harass me for years Hell even at midnight on Friday after the hearing unless they are paid to do so?  
 
 
Harvey York
Reply to David Amos 
You, playing the victim. How ironic and hilarious, all at the same time! 
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to Harvey York 
How so Mr Cop? 
 
 
Harvey York
Reply to David Amos  
I'll let you have the last word, Davie....just so you can tell your therapist you won a moral victory today. 'Night, 'night, pal!  
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to Harvey York 
Methinks I touched a never because everybody know It was a cop named Danny Boy who covered up my complaint against the Fat Fred City Finest in 2004 N'esy Pas? 
 
 
David Amos  
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Whats with Google and its spell check? 
 
 
David Amos  
Reply to David Amos 
Methinks Google should explain to the cops in Fat Fred City what a screenshot is N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
G. Timothy Walton  
"N.B. Power and it's single largest customer"

Seriously? Your editor(s) can't even spell possessive pronouns properly now? Surely there's a retiree with a third-grade education looking for some extra income who's willing to take on the job.

 
David Amos  
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Seriously???
 
 
David Amos  
Reply to David Amos
Only after the hearing is over did one dude acknowledge I was an Intervener and he only did so because he was disappointed that I didn't get arrested. Go figure  
 
 
G. Timothy Walton
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What can I say? I've tired of the subliterati that the Mother Corp is employing as editors lately.  
 
 
Michael Cain
Reply to G. Timothy Walton
"I've tired"? Pronoun expert? I suppose one can understand what was intended
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Michael Cain
Do you? 

 
David Amos
Reply to David Amos 
Methinks if you speak of the Devil he is sure to appear. Just like a moth to a flame N'esy Pas? 
 
 
G. Timothy Walton
Reply to Michael Cain
Oh dear, looks like there actually is somebody less qualified for the job than the current editors. 
 
 
Michael Cain
Reply to G. Timothy Walton
You didn't apply, did you? 
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to G. Timothy Walton 
Other that the cops does anybody remember these words I used long ago?

"I have to caution you this is not a game"

 
 
 
 
June Arnott
Regular people cant afford this. Time to up the rate on big corporate business. Way overdue for Irving to pay their fair share. Or people will continue to freeze and go hungry.

And STOP the bonuses! Normal business doesn’t give these when u dont make money!

 
David Amos  
Reply to June Arnott
I concur
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
lyle hewitt 
if we were true capitalists, would we not allow this company to fail? No doubt another bunch of political cronies would step up for taxpayers monies. 
 
 
David Amos  
Reply to lyle hewitt  
Surely you jest 
 
 
 
 
 
 
doug kirby
No sense in working...if a person is on social assistance they have more rebates and wiggle room to live..I get it now  
 
 
G. Timothy Walton 
Reply to doug kirby    
All right.

Here's you $600/month* plus prescription drug coverage. Now, let's see how much wiggle room you find.

* Assuming you're a single adult with no disability.

 
David Amos  
Reply to doug kirby 
High Time somebody got it  
 
 
David Amos  
Reply to G. Timothy Walton  
Methinks Higg's buddy de blogger is living high on hog with welfare funding his circus N'esy Pas? 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
Mack Leigh 
Please tell me exactly when low income and pensioners of New Brunswick can expect increases in their cheques to cover all of these massive increases. Please let me know exactly how government expects the people of NB to keep a roof over their heads, food on the table and clothes on their backs all while paying for the " privilege " of being able to stay warm in this part of the country.  
 
 
Mary Elizabeth  
Reply to Mack Leigh
We just had one I think it was 3% or so but it added 50 $ to my pension a month
 
 
David Amos  

Reply to Mary Elizabeth  
Cry me a river
 
 
Mary Elizabeth  
Reply to David Amos 
You ok David ? Or do you no how much our pension raise was?  
 
 
Michael Cain 
Reply to Mary Elizabeth
6.3%!!!!! 
 
 
David Amos  
Reply to Mary Elizabeth
A better question is do you know who I am? 
 
 
David Amos  
Reply to Mary Elizabeth 
BTW I own CBC too 
 
 
Harvey York
Reply to David Amos 
A better question is do you know who I am? Oh boy...this ought to be good! Go on, Dave...tell Mary who you are... 
 
 
David Amos     
Reply to Harvey York
She already knows BTW did you talk to your boss today? 


Harvey York
Reply to David Amos 
Not typically on the weekend, no. lol 
 
 
David Amos     
Reply to Harvey York 
At least he can never deny that I am a man of my word 


Harvey York
Reply to David Amos
I'm at least 150% certain that I am most definitely not a cop and my boss has never heard of you, and by the minimal probability that he has heard of you, he wouldn't care either way. So there's that, I suppose. Your spidey sense needs a re-calibration, genius. 
 

David Amos     
Reply to Harvey York
What was the date the Fat Fred City Finest first attacked me? I trust that your boss remembers the day very well 


David Amos 
Reply to David Amos
More importantly the RCMP and the FBI were duly informed when you and your cohorts libeled my children 
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to David Amos 
Even your pal "Al" noticed that I had not posted for a whole year after I made that complaint to the cops Correct?  
 
 
Harvey York
Reply to David Amos 
I have no idea what you're rambling on about, but I do know that this is comedy gold. Good stuff pal.  


David Amos     
Reply to Harvey York
 "I'm at least 150% certain"

Too Too Funny

Methinks everybody has heard the old saying "Never believe anything until its officially denied" N'esy Pas?







Mack Leigh  
Fire the lot of them and bring in qualified, competent people to run NB Power. People who are held accountable and to a much higher standard than the current buffoons running the show. Get rid of any administrative fluff and absolutely no bonuses while keeping their salaries in check. Have them overseen by astute business people who will put an end to the gross mismanagement. 
 
 
June Arnott 
Reply to Mack Leigh  
No o e is EVER held accountable no matter what government rules  
 
 
David Amos   
 
Reply to June Arnott
Methinks that is the way of of the world when apathy rules the day Eh???

Did I make the nasty Anglo critics of my Chiac Happy Happy Happy? 

 
David Amos  
Reply to June Arnott  
Oh My Somebody did not like my reply to you

 

 
 
 
 
 
Rosco holt
Residential customers need their own lawyer to represent them.  
 
 
David Amos  
Reply to Rosco holt 
Hence I was not worth paying any attention to because I am not a lawyer?  
 
 
 
 
 
 
JOhn D Bond   
Not surprising that business in general don't want an increase. That is so typical of their go to complaint approach about everything.

It hurts their profits.

Perhaps the real issue with the financial results for NB power is the low rates business pay for hydro relative to the avg consumer.

Either way both the cost of generation of electricity, the distribution of electricity and the debt all have to be paid for.

We should be focused on those issues. With significant focus on eliminating that debt cliff it faces. The benefactors of the electricity should be paying a proportionate amount and it should not be subject to all types of offsets or other fun with numbers games that shift the burden to the residential consumers.

 
David Amos  
Reply to JOhn D Bond   
"fun with numbers games"

Methinks Everybody Knows that is exactly what it is N'esy Pas?

 
 
 
 
rayma allaby  
what this province needs is competition....i predict that nb power will get their massive rate increase...not sure how folks are going to afford the huge bills that are going to come from this..  
 
 
David Amos  
Reply to rayma allaby 
Well put




 
Inger Nielsen 
time for more solar power  
 
 
David Amos  
Reply to Inger Nielsen 
Dream on
 
 
 
 
 
John Grail  
Why is Irving calling the shots? They literally get preferred rates and money back guarantees from NB power that save them millions...  
 
 
David Webb
Reply to John Grail
Irving are only one party at the hearings. How is that calling the shots? The EUB is government appointed and makes the decision. They are also responsible for the management of NB Power. If you want to point fingers, point them at many, many years of party politics in this province, and voters that think government debt doesn't matter. On a combined debt of $20 BILLION, $2 MILLION PER DAY in interest has consequences.  
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to David Webb  
Can you name the other party at the hearings CBC has never mentioned? 
 
 
Harvey York
Reply to David Amos 
Did you ever make It to F"ton Dave? The whole province was waiting for you to save us!!
 
 
David Amos 
   
Reply to Harvey York
Say Hey to your boss for me  
 
 
Harvey York
Reply to David Amos 
What a useless comment  
 
 
Mary Elizabeth 
Reply to John Grail 
The brought 3 lawyer's more then anyone ,so ya I think they are going to fight not to pay but NB Power will get half of what they want so around 4% but I'm worried that Irving will just pass this 4% right onto the gas price they sell. It is not going to be a win win for anyone  

 
Mary Elizabeth  
Reply to David Amos
First time Irving brought 3 lawyer's and had to be told not to over lap in question's as in not to repeat the question's . I think they will get half of the increase 

 
David Amos  

Reply to Mary Elizabeth  
YO Oh ye who claims to own CBC You should know eh?

Say Hey to not so Merry Mac for me will ya?

 
David Amos  

Reply to David Amos   
Deja Vu Anyone?

Merry McPherson

They get not a penny more until they fix why it is always doing so bad -- Why do we the people pay again for CEO's to tell us it is our fault -- Not today

David Amos

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Reply to Merry McPherson

Ditto

Methinks that begins with NB Power being audited like Hydro Quebec certainly is by 3 separate auditors Obviously because they don't trust each other N'esy Pas?

  
David Amos  
Reply to Mary Elizabeth 
BTW Methinks you forgot their former managing partner the Irving lawyer recently appointed to the board N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Amos  

Reply to Mary Elizabeth  
I told you what was up yesterday Correct?
 
 
David Amos  

Reply to Mary Elizabeth   
NEW BRUNSWICK ENERGY and UTILITIES BOARD

COMMISSION DE L’ENERGIE ET DES SERVICES PUBLICS N.-B.

Matter 541

Relating to an application by New Brunswick Power Corporation pursuant to subsection 103(1) of the Electricity Act for approval of the Schedule of Rates for the fiscal year commencing April 1st 2023.

Held at the Fredericton Convention Centre, Fredericton, N.B. on February 24, 2023.

CHAIRPERSON: Good morning everyone. I’m going to start with appearances with New Brunswick Power Corporation.

MR. FUREY: Good morning, Mr. Chair, John Furey.

CHAIRPERSON: Morning, Mr. Furey. Canadian Federation of Independent Business?. Nobody is here. Mr. Amos? He is not here. Mr. Daly? Not here. J.D. Irving, Limited?

MS. RUBIN: Good morning, Mr. Chair, Nancy Rubin, Conor O’Neil and Brianne Rudderham here on behalf of J.D. Irving, Limited.

CHAIRPERSON: Good morning, Ms. Rubin. Liberty Utilities? No one is here. Twin Rivers Paper Company Inc.?

MR. HOYT: Len Hoyt for Twin Rivers. Good morning.

CHAIRPERSON: Good morning, Mr. Hoyt. Utilities Municipal?

MR. STOLL: Good morning, Mr. Chair. Scott Stoll.

CHAIRPERSON: Good morning, Mr. Stoll. Public Intervener?

MR. WILLIAMS: Good morning, Rick Williams, Acting Public Intervener.

CHAIRPERSON: Good morning, Mr. Williams. And New Brunswick Energy and Utilities Board?

MS. HERRINGTON: Good morning, Mr. Chair, Abigail Herrington.

CHAIRPERSON: Good morning, Ms. Herrington. Mr. Furey?

MR. FUREY: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

First thing, Mr. Chair, I would like to thank the Board and parties for what has turned out to be an efficient hearing. We finished evidence in seven days. And I anticipate we will have no difficulty in finishing argument today.



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