Lori
Clark is the first N.B. Power president to appear in person to answer
questions at a rate hearing since David Hay did it more than a decade
ago. (Jonathan Collicott/CBC News)
A
scheduled nine-day hearing into N.B. Power's request for an 8.9 per
cent rate increase has begun in front of the Energy and Utilities Board,
and an intense early grilling from a lawyer representing one of its
largest customers suggests it could be a long two weeks.
Nancy
Rubin, counsel for J.D. Irving Ltd, criticized pay and performance at
the utility and suggested N.B. Power acting president Lori Clark was
delivering rehearsed statements instead of answering questions — all in
the first few minutes of the hearing.
"Ms. Clark, can you listen to my questions," Rubin responded after one answer she considered unsatisfactory.
"I know you have information to communicate, but …"
Halifax
lawyer Nancy Rubin is representing J.D. Irving Ltd. at N.B. Power's
rate hearing. She levelled several criticisms at the utility's
performance. (Jonathan Collicott/CBC News)
Rubin
also clashed with N.B. Power lawyer John Furey over whether the Crown
corporation has been properly adhering to EUB guidance published in
previous decisions on how to balance competing duties to stay
financially viable but keep rates low and stable for customers.
Furey suggested Rubin's question was disingenuous.
"She can read them herself," Furey said of the EUB decisions that touch on the issue.
"I
suspect she already has. She probably knows the answer to the
question. To ask me to go do that research for JDI, I object. I don't
think that's appropriate."
EUB chair Francois Beaulieu sided with
Furey, but Rubin made it clear J.D. Irving is not happy with the
proposed rate increase and will be fighting it vigorously.
Francois
Beaulieu, chair of the New Brunswick Energy and Utilities Board, is
presiding over a nine-day hearing into N.B. Power's request to raise
rates 8.9 per cent. (Jonathan Collicott/CBC News)
The
utility is also facing questions from lawyers representing other
industries, competitors, municipal utilities, the public and the EUB
itself.
It is N.B. Power's first appearance at a rate hearing in
three years, and the utility is making the case that its financial
situation has turned dire.
Pandemic upheavals, supply chain
problems, runaway inflation and performance troubles at generating
stations, especially the Point Lepreau nuclear plant, have battered the
utility in different ways.
With its rates climbing just 3.8 per
cent in three years during those troubles Clark told the hearing N.B.
Power is in need of an infusion of new money.
N.B.
Power has seven panels of witnesses prepared to testify at its rate
hearing. The utility began with a group of senior executives, including
acting president Lori Clark. (Jonathan Collicott/CBC News)
"As
much as we dislike rate increases for our customers we also have
a fiduciary responsibility to ensure that we are covering our costs as a
utility," said Clark, who is the first president to personally appear
at a rate hearing since David Hay more than a decade ago.
In
total, seven N.B. Power witness panels are scheduled to testify about
all aspects of the company's operations during the hearing. Additional
experts hired by the Energy and Utilities Board and the public
intervener will also give evidence.
Robert
Jones has been a reporter and producer with CBC New Brunswick since
1990. His investigative reports on petroleum pricing in New Brunswick
won several regional and national awards and led to the adoption of
price regulation in 2006.
Methinks Mr Jones will be updating us about the circus in short order N'esy Pas?
Roy Kirk
Where is the hearing being held?
Roy Kirk
Reply to Roy Kirk
Found it on the EU B website: Location: Fredericton Convention Centre, 670 Queen Street, Fredericton, NB
David Amos
Reply to Roy Kirk
Keep digging and you will find my Intervention etc
Dianne MacPherson
The article fails to mention the name of
the person representing the 'lowly ' ratepayer
in this Hearing .
That's the person I want to hear from !!
David Amos
Reply to Dianne MacPherson
I'm that guy
David Amos
Reply to Dianne MacPherson
Trust that this dude has my number
Auditor general reproaches N.B. Power for financial barriers to energy efficiency
Report by Auditor General Paul Martin also questions high salaries for utility executives
Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Feb 24, 2022 11:11 AM
Marc Martin
And the big corporation does not want to pay more AGAIN. I bet you Higgy will interfere so that they don't have to pay more...
Dianne MacPherson
Reply to Marc Martin
You are getting your Premiers mixed up...
that was NS's Premier Houston .
He did a real job of "interfering" in
their latest rate increase.
Marc Martin
Reply to Dianne MacPherson
I said Higgy WILL interfere......
David Amos
Reply to Dianne MacPherson
FYI I dealt with that matter as well
Dianne MacPherson
Reply to David Amos
Your day has come and gone !
David Amos
Reply to Dianne MacPherson
How so? I am intervening right now and there is another hearing in May
BTW Don't bother calling me now
Bobby Burke
Just spent about an hour attempting to find
Author Peter C Newman, who wrote a book on the Irving’s. Must have
destroyed it. In it, in part, KC addressed some issues for success 1.
Eliminate the competition. 2. Never give money away. 3. Taxes are for
losers. There was a forth, but I forget it. Anyone else know of the
book?
David Amos
Reply to Bobby Burke
I was talking to Petey Baby's old lawyer Mr Levine not that long ago
David Amos
Reply to Bobby Burke
BTW I never read or even heard of Newman's book
about them but I understand that "Citizens Irving" by John DeMont which
I treasure is a rare find as well
David Amos
Methinks the best part of the circus today was
when one clown called another clown disingenuous and the ringmaster
agreed N'esy Pas?
David Amos
"EUB chair Francois Beaulieu sided with Furey, but Rubin
made it clear J.D. Irving is not happy with the proposed rate increase
and will be fighting it vigorously."
Go Figure
N.B. Power to spend $3.4 million of proposed rate hike on higher industrial subsidies
Utility's planned 8.9 per cent rate increase applies to all customers, except 6 pulp and paper mills
Robert Jones · CBC News · Posted: Oct 11, 2022 6:00 AM ADT
"New Brunswick's six pulp and paper mills will not be
made to pay the same 8.9 per cent increase for electricity next April as
other customers of N.B. Power, evidence filed with the Energy and
Utilities Board shows.
Last week the utility announced plans to raise rates 8.9
per cent "across the board" to all customers to address its rising
expenses. Acting N.B. Power president Lori Clark said financial
problems the utility faces in the next year are significant and require
every customer to contribute equally to address them."
"But in a 200-page evidence package submitted with the
application to the EUB, the utility revealed it will be using $3.4
million of the $135.8 million higher rates are expected to generate to
raise subsidies it supplies to six New Brunswick pulp and paper mills.
Part of that will cover an expected increase in the
consumption of power by the mills next year, but some will partially
shield facilities from having to pay the full cost of increased rates.
The mills include three owned by J.D. Irving Ltd. in
east Saint John, west Saint John and Lake Utopia, two owned by the AV
group in Nackawic and Atholville and the mill in Edmundston owned by
Twin Rivers.
According to N.B. Power's evidence, transfers to the
mills will increase 30 per cent, from an estimated $11.3 million this
year to $14.7 million next year. "
David Amos
Reply to David Amos
CHAIRPERSON: Thank you. I am just wondering if Mr. Amos
has arrived or Mr. Daly? All right. So Mr. Furey, if you want to call
your first panel?
MR. FUREY: Thanks you, Mr. Chair. I will ask NB Power’s Panel A to come forward to be sworn.
David Amos
Reply to David Amos
Guess whose fault it was that I was a noshow today
Jim Beam
Reply to David Amos
your alarm clock?
David Amos
Reply to David Amos
Do tell Mr York that G4TR may ring some bells with the cops
David Amos
Reply to Jim Beam
YO Ye with a fake name feel free to guess again
David Amos
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Go Figure whose fault it was that I was a noshow today
NEW BRUNSWICK ENERGY and UTILITIES BOARD
Matter 541
Relating to an application by New Brunswick Power
Corporation pursuant to subsection 103(1) of the Electricity Act for
approval of the Schedule of Rates for the fiscal year commencing April
1st 2023.
Held at the Fredericton Convention Centre, Fredericton, N.B. on February 13, 2023.
CHAIRPERSON: Ms. Rubin, is there any preliminary issues
on behalf of your client that you wish to -- that we deal with before we
start the first panel?
MS. RUBIN: No, Mr. Chair. Thank you.
CHAIRPERSON: Thank you. And Mr. Hoyt?
MR. HOYT: Nothing, Mr. Chair.
CHAIRPERSON: Thank you. Mr. Stoll?
MR. STOLL: Nothing.
CHAIRPERSON: Mr. Williams?
MR. WILLIAMS: Nothing from me, Mr. Chair.
CHAIRPERSON: And Ms. Herrington?
MS. HERRINGTON: No, Mr. Chair, thank you.
CHAIRPERSON: Thank you. I am just wondering if Mr. Amos
has arrived or Mr. Daly? All right. So Mr. Furey, if you want to call
your first panel?
MR. FUREY: Thanks you, Mr. Chair. I will ask NB Power’s Panel A to come forward to be sworn.
PANEL A
MS. LORI CLARK, MR. DARREN MURPHY, MR. BRAD COADY, sworn.
CHAIRPERSON: And I am going to ask Ms. Otis from the Board just to come and swear the panel members.
So for the record, the three panel members, Ms. Clark, Mr. Murphy and Mr. Coady have been sworn.
MR. FUREY: Thank you, Mr. Chair.
CHAIRPERSON: Thank you. Whenever you are ready, Mr. Furey.
DIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. FUREY:
Q. - Ms. Clark, I wonder if you could introduce yourself to the Board, please.
MS. CLARK: Good morning. My name is Lori Clark. I am the
President and CEO of NB Power, and I have testified for this Board many
times.
David Amos
"As much as we dislike rate increases for our customers
we also have a fiduciary responsibility to ensure that we are covering
our costs as a utility," said Clark, who is the first president to
personally appear at a rate hearing since David Hay more than a decade
ago."
Too Too Funny
David Amos
Reply to David Amos
Methinks Higgy and Minister Mikey have a fiduciary
responsibility to see that the Crown Corporation they oversee is finally
audited just like Hydro Quecbec is N'esy Pas?
Deja Vu Anyone???
NB Power management at fault for missed debt targets, says auditor general
Social Sharing
Debt reduction is "not a priority" at Crown corporation, said Kim Adair-Macpherson
Robert Jones · CBC News · Posted: Feb 23, 2021 5:07 PM AST
Rosco holt
Reply to David Amos
She won't be around for long. She will take the same path has Hay.
David Amos
Reply to Rosco holt
Of that have no doubt.
You do know I am an Intervener in the matter Correct?
Lou Bell
Reply to David Amos
Don't forget to mention your confiscated Harley ! And that you're an American ! I'm sure you won't !
David Amos
Reply toLou Bell
Everybody knows my Harley was stolen by the Fat Fred
City Finest. Furthermore if I am a Yankee as you falsely claim why do
you constantly tease me about the elections I ran in Canada?
Methinks its time for you to back away from the butter
tarts and have another nap before your buddy Maggie bursts upon the
scene N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
Reply to David Amos
Actually , you made claims as to being a dual
citizen and regulations for crossing the border were different for you
than most others .
David Amos
Reply toLou Bell
Methinks you old pal Cardy should have
explained my lawsuit to you long ago Even Higgy's latest Justice
Minister is clever enough to know I am no dual citizen nor is my wife
but two of my three children certainly are N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
Reply to David Amos
And I never knew anything about you and your
Harley until YOU revealed it here on this site . That's the thing about
sites like this . Once you put it on there , it just doesn't disappear .
And furthermore , great for anyone who wants to step up and run for
public office TO REPRESENT OTHERS . That's what it's all about , getting
elected to office and representing all people , be it Municipal ,
Provincial , or Federal . But not so when they step forward just to
represent themselves .
David Amos
Reply toLou Bell
Libel is a criminal act Methinks you need a lawyer N'esy Pas?
Harvey York
Reply to David Amos
I'll admit that Lou is off her rocker
sometimes, I mean some of her posts are pretty out there....but I'd say
she's got you pegged, old boy.
David Amos
Reply toHarvey York
At least she has a real name and address
Rosco holt
Residential customers need proper representation at the EUB. But government won't allow it.
David Amos
Reply to Rosco holt
What am I chopped liver???
Harvey York
Reply to David Amos
pretty much....
David Amos
Reply toHarvey York
Trust that I was talking about you and your pal Al today
Harvey York
Reply to David Amos
Somehow that doesn't surprise me whatsoever. You do know that talking to yourself doesn't count for much eh?
David Amos
Reply toHarvey York
It was your fault that I was a noshow today Correct?
Jimmy Sherman
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Reply to David Amos
David I've followed you for a few years and I
gotta say that you have been pretty much on the ball. Times they are a
shifting and it ain't pretty. Once the Digital ID is established they
will pretty much control all. Only those in full compliance will get a
bone thrown at them. History is repeating itself. We do have some hope
though. They didn't get us all with their first mandate and some more
have finally awakened. It will be a very interesting year. The battle is
being fought. The winner will go either way.
David Amos
Reply to Jimmy Sherman
Thank you for that
Harvey York
Reply to David Amos
How's that? Was I supposed to give you a ride or something? I must have missed that request. Sorry old chap!
David Amos
Reply toHarvey York
Did you forget I published your words and emailed them as well?
Garbage Can
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Hopefully Irving will look out for all NBers and stop this insane increase
Rosco holt
Reply to Garbage Can
You are kidding right?
Irving looks out for Irving. They don't care about us peasants.
Sam Smithers
Reply to Rosco holt
Businesses look out for their own business
first, this is not an Irving trait, it is a big business trait. Others
from other provinces must laugh their butts off and how obsessed people
in this province are with Irving who employs more than anyone else, not
to mention spin off jobs.
Shawn Tabor
Reply to Sam Smithers
This is very good Sam. You hit the nail on the
head. Now they have to look at Business and what they teach or have
taught. Something wrong with this so called Business. A stepping stone
though. This will take years and require that the rules change. Do not
hold your breath tho. I know that Irving group of companies or
Businesses always promoted, Whatever way we did it today, their was a
better way tomarrow. This worked, but it made promotion or the next
level good and bad, cut each others throats or made for some really bad
stuff to happened. But who cared, they profited. There was a big mistake
one time, more then 20 years in the making, it was owning gas stations
down the Eastern seaboard. They spent milllions to aquire someones elses
chain of gas stations and other assets. They got shut down at that
time. A group thought that they would have a monopoly and too much
control. Like they have it here now in little NB. Just saying, a true
story. These folks are an example or a very good example of how much is
really too much. But these folks are like many big Businesses are, all
over the country and i guess the big rock that we are living on. History
has shown us, this does not last or does not end well. If you study
them or any other large Businesses you can see the common denominators. I
do not dislike them, just some of the humans that they employ that will
cut anyones throat in order to achieve. Not sure if i made my point,
but in time this will become Crystal CLEAR. I think the days of more and
more and more is not working out so good. Have a great day. Work hard
and smile, it feels better and is more natural.
David Amos
Reply to Shawn Tabor
Give your head a shake Do you really think you are dealing with "The Deacon of Death"-Sam Smithers???
Shawn Tabor
Reply to Shawn Tabor
Oh i met and served a little ole man that wore a
funny little hat on his head, Scottish i believe. Very pleasant and
very nice. He give me a quarter and told me that i kept my washrooms
clean after i filled up his car. He didn’t have to give me anything, but
he did. Things that you do not forget.
David Amos
Reply to Rosco holt
C'est Vrai
Shawn Tabor
Reply to Shawn Tabor
Min wage was 2.85. They were my gas pumps i
thought and no one was going to buy or purchase gas without getting
their windshield cleaned, just me and my crazy dreams at that time. I
went out after and earned an electrician license but returned to become
an apprentice restaurant manager. Thats when i learned more about what
business was like. I lasted 11 months i believe. That was it for that
group. Today i chase gold in the mining world or any other elements that
they tell me to fetch, all done as a team.
Shawn Tabor Reply to David Amos
Hey i know you, I remember quite clear who you
are. Another thing that you do not forget. Yes I remember well. I guess
your retired now, collecting a big ole Canadien pension. Life is good i
bet.
David Amos
Reply to Shawn Tabor
Shame on you
Shawn Tabor Reply to Garbage Can
Oh look, there is another chunk of Gold
Jimmy Sherman
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Reply to Shawn Tabor
Unfortunately Shawn the dream that we had is
gone. You remember the Saint John Shipyard. Good times. I had a ball.
Your Grandchildren are in for a lot of hurt. The new norm will be a lot
will be owned. The digital ID will be here in a few years. We were a
part of the problem. Our generation was owned and now it is going to be a
lot worse.
Don Corey
Reply to Garbage Can
They're not looking out for NB'ers. We're on our own, but might benefit a bit regardless from their efforts.
David Amos
Reply to Garbage Can
Methinks you and the "Deacon of Death" wannabe have been reminded of the rules before N'esy Pas?
"To encourage thoughtful and respectful conversations,
first and last names will appear with each submission to
CBC/Radio-Canada's online communities (except in children and
youth-oriented communities). Pseudonyms will no longer be permitted."
Elizabeth Thimlar
Irving is looking out for Irving’s… do not
think they are looking out for the taxpayers of NB. They already pay
less taxes as well as less for power than anyone else. That’s one reason
Why we can’t get ahead… woodlots owners are shafted and they are paying
little or nothing for the use of crown land.
Don Corey
Reply to Elizabeth Thimlar
Well, you're absolutely right that Irving is looking out for themselves, and nobody else.
But why shouldn't they? All businesses want to keep their costs as low as possible.
In their case, power is a huge expense in operating pulp and paper mills.
That's one of the big reasons why most of the big mills
in the province are now history (the biggest one is the cost of wood;
the next is wages and benefits).
You're also right as far as crown wood being less costly
than from woodlot owners, but I guess that's not really relevant to
this article.
David Amos
Reply to Don Corey
Methinks you should understand why I just called and left a voicemail for an old guy camped In Campbellton N'esy Pas?
Deborah Reddon
Reply to Don Corey
Irving receives subsidies on almost everything
they do. It seems the Province believes no other company would be
interested in working in NB so they must be treated better than the same
industries which operate in other parts of Canada. It's time for the
residents of NB to receive proper compensation from Irving.
Kate LeBlanc
Looks like the 9 day hearing will be taken up
mostly by NB Power over kill crew justifying the outrageous hike and
big corporations like JDI angling for another subsidization or
reduction from their present rate and/or their future. So much for the
public input, the public who are already battling the increasingly
higher costs of providing a warm shelter, and enough food to exist. The
haves piling it on some more against the have nots. Good job Higgs and
co.!
David Amos
Reply to Kate LeBlanc
"So much for the public input"
Methinks I am part that public N'esy Pas?
Benoit Boudreau
you and your n'esy pas... i look forward to when you go away
David Amos
Reply to Benoit Boudreau
Methinks you say hey to Higgy et al for me when I'm gone N'esy Pas?
Kirk Gordon
Yet another useless CEO, obviously appointed
because she knows the right people. NB's pork barrel approach to
leadership is so entrenched that we'll never amount to anything except
as a bottomless trough for the top level wallowers.
Benoit Boudreau
Reply to Kirk Gordon
Irving shilling much?
Kirk Gordon
Reply to Benoit Boudreau
How on earth did you get that as your take away?
David Amos
Reply to Kirk Gordon
Its called gas lighting
Benoit Boudreau
Don't take Irving's profits away!! They have to hide them under a numbered company at a bank in Barbados!
David Amos
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Reply to Benoit Boudreau
How would you know unless you are their courier with the brown bag?
Mack Leigh
How in the he?? is the common person supposed
to exist ? 8.9 percent for hydro and everything else on the rise as
well. Everything increasing except people's income. Basic needs of a
roof over our heads and food on the table now becoming a luxury. Hydro
increases to pay for the " overhead and expenses " ? How about a
forensic audit and implementing cost cutting measures such as getting
rid of fat bonuses, excess administration and all of the fluff that goes
with it. Time to stop bleeding the people of this province dry.....
period. Also time to make sure that large corporations are paying their
share.
David Amos
Reply to Mack Leigh
Methinks because I Intervene I must exist N'est-ce pas?
K. Ride
An in-depth audit by an outside company was done last year and cost-cutting is in effect.
Paul Bolton
I don't think either JDI or NB Power have the average NBer's interest hidden in their paper shuffle.
Samuel Champlain
Reply to Paul Bolton
Any business has the interest of their company and employees first, this is not something isolated to Irving.
Jim Lake
Reply to Samuel Champlain
Company - yes, employees - maybe, customers - definitely not. Responsible companies should be able to balance all three.
David Amos
Reply to Paul Bolton
Methinks everybody would agree with that N'esy Pas?
marc lapointe
Reply toDavid Amos
N'est-ce pas ?
The French expression n'est-ce pas (pronounced
"nes-pah") is what grammarians call a tag question. It's a word or short
phrase that is tagged on to the end of a statement, to turn it into a
yes-or-no question. It is a question added to a declarative sentence to
engage, verify, or confirm. Question tags use the auxiliary verb in the
opposite form of the sentence itself.
Dennis J Murphy
Reply to Paul Bolton
Thanks for that explanation. Having seen so
mant of those "n'est-ce-pas" over the last few years, and most often by
Mr Amos, it just never felt right, and actually irratated me. Now I know
why: It was used incorrectly. Thank you, again.
David Amos
Reply to marc lapointe
Ever heard of Chiac?
David Amos
Reply to Dennis J Murphy
Methinks many Acadians would agree thats its
incredibly comical that Anglos are always the most offended by my having
fun with Chiac N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to Jim Lake
Methinks everybody knows you are not conferring with the ghost of Samuel Champlain N'esy Pas?
Marcel Belanger
Reply to marc lapointe
Same thing as adding "right" at the end of a sentence, right?
David Amos
Reply to Marcel Belanger
Or "Eh" Correct?
John Dale
Of course JDI will try to protect its
interests. Any successful business operates in that fashion. However,
there are a significant number of high quality jobs and community
interests bound up with the continued operation of NB pulp and paper
mills. This sector already confronts tremendous challenges in an era of
burgeoning electronic media. NB Power needs to explore the expense side
of its balance sheet and evaluate the sustainability of bloated pensions
to retirees and fiscally irresponsible payouts to executives. There are
considerable savings to be accrued in these areas.
Jim Beam
Reply to John Dale
They might as well be printing money. Don't let
them fool you into thinking they are struggling. We have subsidized
them for long enough.
David Amos
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Reply to Jim Beam
Methinks you should check my work instead of merely making fun of my troubles with the cops N'esy Pas?
Bobby Burke
Reply to Jim Beam
Hope your referring to ‘The Family’, rather than NB Power
Bobby Burke
Reply to Jim Beam
Hope your referring to the Empire in your statement, if so, ...“Bang On”!
Joe Smith
The fix is in and this is just a show trial.
JDI is really just throwing up a smoke screen trying to show they are
shocked at an increase, that in many cases they won’t be paying. This is
a distraction, so the public does not focus on how good a power deal
they currently get and protect it from public scrutiny.
David Amos
Reply to Joe Smith
Bingo
Marc Bourque
When will the ordinary citizen get a freaking
break! Our backs are already broken!’ What else do you want arm,kidney
or a lung?
Lou Bell
Reply to Marc Bourque
Well somone needs to pay for all that debt wrung up by the Liberals !
Rosco holt
Reply to Lou Bell
Your conservatives contributed to that debt. Orimulsion deal. Lepreau refurb just to name a few.
Samuel Champlain
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Reply to Rosco holt
Lepreau refurb is taken care of by NB Power,
and this gov't did not build LePreau, understand what you are posting
before posting it.
David Amos
Reply to Rosco holt
Oh So True
David Amos
Reply to Samuel Champlain
Do you?
Samuel Champlain
Reply to Rosco holt
Lepreau refurb is taken care of by NB Power.
Samuel Champlain
Reply to David Amos
Methinks you should worry more about why you are not allowed in many buildings.
David Amos
Reply to Samuel Champlain
Methinks you need a lawyer N'esy Pas?
A.R. Bungay
“Funny” NBP don’t mention all the bloated staff
at the top who will they step away will get very large Golden Hand
Shakes. All this must be taken into account but especially the failures
of NBP to reign in those costs due to mismanagement.
Rosco holt
Reply to A.R. Bungay
Those who receive golden handshake are for the most part patronage positions, put in place by previous governments.
A.R. Bungay
Reply to Rosco holt
Pretty much the board members and the CEO and
the other “managers”. What a waste of money. This power company should
have been sold to Quebec Hydro back in the Graham days.
Rosco holt
Reply to A.R. Bungay
All these people will end up else where in government leeching tax payers money.
Hydro Quebec only wanted distribution and we would have
paid dearly. The sale wasn't to benefit NBers but Irving.
Quebec Hydro aren't known for their service.
David Amos
Reply to Rosco holt
Methinks that at least we would have been rid
of huge debt and all the patronage appointments as well. Furthermore
Hydro Quebec promised that we would pay the same rates for power that
the French folks north of us do N'esy Pas?
rayma allaby
we are expected to believe that nb power cares about rate payers....i don't buy it
David Amos
Reply to rayma allaby
I never did
Christine Martinez
Irving gets what it wants in this province. Wait & see.
Unfortunately, NB Power will need to gouge the same
revenue from elsewhere, meaning that Joe Ratepayer will be expected to
make up the difference.
NB Power's logic is flawed. They are still assuming that
the Average Joe is an endless money supply. This article states that
they need to make up the shortfall. Whoever said that NB Power customers
(private citizens) are in a financial position to provide it? Can't get
blood from a stone.
Rosco holt
Reply to Christine Martinez
It's government logic not NBPower's. Government forces the utility to give the generous subsidy to Irving.
Christine Martinez
Reply to Rosco holt
That was exactly my point. The government will
continue to do so, which means NB Power will turn to everyone else to
make up the difference they were expecting to get from Irving.
Rosco holt
Reply to Christine Martinez
In reality everything that Irving doesn't pay NBers are forced to pay.
A.R. Bungay
Reply to Christine Martinez
Seniors, disabled persons and low income
earners will really feel the hit from a 8.9% will cause. And then the
small business owners who can barely breathe right now could be forced
out of business due to loss of “power” due to the above peoples not
having enough money to spend.
David Amos
Reply to Rosco holt
Why not pick up the phone and talk to me???
Matter 541
Relating to an application by New Brunswick Power Corporation
pursuant to subsection 103(1) of the Electricity Act for approval of
the Schedule of Rates for the fiscal year commencing April 1st 2023.
Public Forum
Held via Videoconferencing, on January 30, 2023
at 2:00 p.m.
Chairperson: So thank you again, Ms. Krammer, for your -- for the presentation.
And I am just going to ask Ms. Wilson if she has any questions for
you?
Ms. Krammer: Will there be ever an opportunity for me to get my
questions answered?
Chairperson: Look, there is people that are -- that are from the
utility here today. So and you did mention Mr. Amos, so Mr. Amos is
an intervener. So if you wish to ask those questions through Mr.
Amos, I am pretty sure that he will have the ability to ask those
questions to the various panels that NB Power will be producing in the
next couple of weeks in Fredericton, if you should -- if you decide to
do that.
Ms. Krammer: Well, I guess I thought that that was the point of my
presence and my speaking here today, but perhaps I am misinformed.
This is just a formality then.
Chairperson: Well it is not really a formality, Ms. Krammer. I think
at the end of the day is you made your submissions, and I think your
comments were duly noted by Board Staff. And there is a Public
Intervener of the Province of New Brunswick that is here assisting,
and I am pretty sure that he is noting what you said. And if there is
something that needs to be addressed during the formal hearing, I am
pretty sure either Mr. Williams or Board Staff, or even Mr. Amos, will
be addressing those questions to whatever panel NB Power decides to
put before the Board.
David Amos
Reply to Christine Martinez
Feel free to call me as well My number is in the EUB record of my Intervention
David Amos
Reply to A.R. Bungay
The same offer holds for you
Greg Miller
Pay up or get out -- I dare you!
Rosco holt
Reply to Greg Miller
Government will swoop in to save Irving's hide.
David Amos
Reply to Rosco holt
Higgy already did so several times recently. Now they want to knock the rate down while keeping their payoffs
David Amos
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Reply to Rosco holt
Higgy already did so several times recently
Now they want to knock the rate down while keeping their payoffs
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New Brunswick's six pulp and paper mills will not be
made to pay the same 8.9 per cent increase for electricity next April as
other customers of N.B. Power, evidence filed with the Energy and
Utilities Board shows.
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"At the generating station at Coleson Cove, N.B. Power
won a $371,800 reduction on a sea-floor property it uses as a source of
coolant for the plant. Service New Brunswick increased the assessed
value of the six-square-kilometre underwater parcel in 2021 by $410,000
after a "re-inspection" of its value, but this year retracted most of it
following a complaint by N.B. Power."
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buy-back program with NB Power.
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that the public utility must pay to mills by 12.5 per cent, retroactive
to April 1.
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