Yo Alex Johnston Thanks for not continuing to block me after I sent my latest emails to you and your cohorts

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From: "Gallant, Premier Brian (PO/CPM)" <Brian.Gallant@gnb.ca>
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 23:05:54 +0000
Subject: RE: So Alex Johnston now that five ethical computers have responded what does your Fat Daddy or your CBC bosses have to say?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

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Please be assured that your email has been received, will be reviewed, and a response will be forthcoming.
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Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 19:05:34 -0400
Subject: So Alex Johnston now that five ethical computers have responded what does your Fat Daddy or your CBC bosses have to say?
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Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 22:51:56 +0000
Subject: RE: Yo Alex Johnston I see CBC is still blocking me. Some
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/legislature-opposition-progressive-conservative-bills-1.3658014

Legislature stalls under weight of opposition bills, motions
'Zero minutes were spent on business,' say Liberals as PCs introduce
16 bills and 49 motions

By Jacques Poitras, CBC News Posted: Jun 29, 2016 1:38 PM AT Last
Updated: Jun 29, 2016 1:43 PM AT

Premier Brian Gallant said the Progressive Conservatives are
filibustering their own bills with stalling tactics in the
Legislature.

Liberal and PC MLAs traded insults and accusations Wednesday over
dozens of opposition bills and motions that have ground the
legislature to a halt.

Government House Leader Rick Doucet called the Progressive
Conservative tactics unprecedented and a waste of time.

"Zero minutes were spent on business," on Tuesday, Doucet told
reporters. "Zero minutes were spent on debating what we're here to do.
There was zero advancement of the government agenda."

    'Zero minutes were spent on debating what we're here to do.'
    - Rick Doucet, government house leader

The PCs introduced 16 bills and begin introducing 49 motions on
Tuesday. The 49 motions are virtually identical, calling on the
government to consult each of the province's 49 electoral ridings on
the two per cent sales-tax increase that takes effect Friday.

The bills cover a range of issues that the PCs say are important,
though the Tories waited until this week to introduce them. PC MLA
Jody Carr says he'd have introduced his earlier if the legislature had
been sitting more often.

The PCs invoked their right to a standing vote on first reading of
each of the 16 bills on Tuesday, a rarely used and time-consuming
step. Each standing vote requires a 10-minute pause in house business.

The sitting day ended Tuesday before all those votes could take place,
pushing them back to Wednesday. Premier Brian Gallant says the PCs are
in effect "filibustering their own bills."
Liberal legislation stalled

Among the Liberal legislation now stalled on the order paper are
amendments on how Court of Queen's Bench judges are transferred, an
increase in the harmonized sales tax, and a bill to establish free
tuition for low-income students.

Doucet and deputy house leader Victor Boudreau didn't mention the
bills on judges and the HST when they spoke to reporters, but hammered
the Tories for putting up roadblocks to the tuition legislation.

"The next school year starts soon and students want to apply for the
program," Boudreau said. "The bill has to pass the house and it's
clear the opposition wants to avoid that bill and others passing."

nb-bruce-fitch

When asked how long the Progressive Conservatives would stall Liberal
legislation, Leader Bruce Fitch told reporters the situation was
"fluid." (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

In Question Period, PC Leader Bruce Fitch said the opposition would be
more cooperative if the Liberals withdrew Bill 21, which would give
the justice minister a veto on how the chief justice of the Court of
Queen's Bench moves judges on his court.

The PCs also want changes to the tuition program, but Gallant said
Wednesday the Liberals will not agree to anything that delays the
bill.

"We're not going to play that game," the premier told reporters.

After Question Period Wednesday, the PCs resumed introducing their 49
HST motions, then moved on to a series of other procedural motions.
Sitting day changes

The PC manoeuvres were motivated in part by their anger over Liberal
rule changes that reduced the number of regular sitting days, which
deprived the opposition of their daily platform in Question Period.

"This government changed the rules in order to favour their majority,
and now that we're working within the rules, they're squawking about
it," Fitch said.

The Liberals responded by saying their rule changes, which created a
greater role for committees to study bills, had actually increased
transparency.

Doucet says each Liberal bill got an average of 70 minutes of debate
this session, compared to 43 minutes under the old rules.

Green leader David Coon says the PC moves are "legitimate tactics" but
he would not have used them.

Even so, he said the Tory stonewalling stemmed from frustration with
the Liberals for reducing sitting days and refusing to accept
opposition amendments to government bills during committee debates.
"They've reaped this situation," he said.

The Liberals say delaying the HST bill will not prevent the tax hike
from taking effect Friday because that's done by federal regulation.
The provincial portion of the tax will jump from eight to 10 per cent,
raising the total rate from 13 to 15 per cent.

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Why complain? We are all in the same boat. We all must suffer from the
nonsense of the majority governments that most of you voted for.
correct? Whether to politicians wear a red or blue of orange or green
coat it makes no difference they are all the same to me. For what it
is worth I my humble opinion an minority government is the only way
for us to go under the current system and two parties should never be
allowed to make a deal and join forces in order to have a majority
like they often do in other jurisdictions. My favourite systems are
the no party system in the NWT or the one in New Hampshire where a
small state has Reps and Senators etc but they are only paid $100 plus
expense a year.« less

1 minute ago 0 Likes 0 Dislikes


James Johnstone

Today I can say, "I heard It All". A friend of Brian Gallant said that
he and Brian discussed politics for years and it is Brian's intent to
become Prime Minister of Canada. Perhaps it's time that voters in New
Brunswick make a major change and delete the Liberal/Conservative
Party before we are completely down the tubes. If government in New
Brunswick was a private business there would be an empty legislature
in the fall. Not one of the dingbat MLA's would have a job. BTW, Thank
you CBC for... » more

4 minutes ago 0 Likes 0 Dislikes


Sean Onuaillain

As the PCs play games with the Liberals in more less identical fashion
to the way in which the Liberals played games with the PCs, NBers
suffer. Where in this silliness is there a resolution to our nearly
half a billion dollar structural deficit; our failing schools; our
over-stretched health care system; the crisis in seniors care?

1 hour ago 3 Likes 0 Dislikes



    Marc LeBlanc

The more things change,the more things stay the same

    1 hour ago 1 Like 1 Dislike


Andrew St.John

no comments allowed on the

'$10M spent by N.B. government to expunge crab fishermen's loans'

Another YES another sinkhole for millions and millions wasted on north
shore failures... guess who is now elected and paying these off - i
want my debts erased!!

Where is the discussion and exposure of this fraud in the legislature?

Just wait unitil our newest shipyard gets a hundred million of more in
bailout money in a five years or so...

ANGRY beyond words!

    1 hour ago 9 Likes 0 Dislikes

Mack Leigh

What was it my Grandma always said ??? Oh yeah!!!! " You reap what you
sow !!!!! ". Glad that the Opposition is able to stall or stop these
Liberal bullies !!! Well done !! We need recall legislation in this
province, that and a referendum !!

2 hours ago 9 Likes 0 Dislikes

Jon Livingston

The liberals have been constantly undermining democracy provincially
and federally. The games the liberals have play have been a concern
with all political parties as well as academics schooled in democracy.
In a couple of years...Anyone but liberal!!!

2 hours ago 8 Likes 1 Dislike


Sevil Natas

@Jon Livingston - Liberals are no worse & no better than PC or NDP.
Calling out only the liberals for undermining democracy while leaving
out the rest just exemplifies the mentality of the politicians we're
currently dealing with. They all think they are the good guys and the
others can't be right because they're the bad guys. Even if they agree
with them.

    2 hours ago 1 Like  6 Dislikes


Sevil Natas

Same old, same old. NB will never get out of this cycle. Every
election we'll flip flop to the other established party and both sides
will just continue to subvert their sworn duties and intentionally
hold back NB with this childish behavior. It's not about fighting for
what is best for the people, it's about making sure the other party
looks bad at any cost.

    3 hours ago 5 Likes 1 Dislike

    Aaron Allison

Gallant call a election we can fix the problem.....

3 hours ago 9 Likes 1 Dislike


Sevil Natas

@Aaron Allison - Yeah just what we need... waste more money just so we
can flop back to another ineffective and corrupt government. If anyone
here really wanted change, we would demand it from our current
government through protest, not with their removal and replacement on
an indefinite loop.

2 hours ago 2 Likes 5 Dislikes


    Lou Bell

This gov't and previous cons have no ideas and say they want to "
consult the public ". They both are void of any ideas or common sense.
The only thing either have done is fulfil patronage appointments and
hidden agendas , nothing else. If people want to really get a feel for
where our education system is at, just look at our politicians. Not a
clue.

3 hours ago 5 Likes 1 Dislike


Mario Doucet

This liberal government is a joke anyway, all they care about is
pushing language rights down our throats and making the overtaxed
people of NB pay for it.

    3 hours ago 13 Likes 0 Dislikes



    David Kane

@Mario Doucet - New Brunswick in a nutshell.

    44 minutes ago 3 Likes 0 Dislikes


    Mario Doucet

@Mario Doucet
Why are we not allowed to comment on the 10 million give away to cover
the debts of a few fishermen in the north shore?

    39 minutes ago 2 Likes 0 Dislikes


    Gerry Ferguson

@Mario Doucet
Amen. Well said.

31 minutes ago 1 Likes 0 Dislikes


    Lou Bell

Two groups of overpaid, underachieving civil servants who have
achieved nothing in the past 10 years. When I was going to school they
had Model Parliament and we had to sit through an entire assembly
listening to this kind of drivel. And they thought we enjoyed it. How
can you enjoy watching and listening to people being loud mouthed and
ignorant for an hour ? Thought I got rid of it. Boy was I wrong !

    3 hours ago 6 Likes 0 Dislikes


    John Valcourt

I would sooner see nothing being achieved that is benefiting all New
Brunswickers than the Liberals pushing their own agendas through and
hurting all New Brunswickers. Mr. Gallant and his cronies have got to
go.

    4 hours ago 11 Likes 0 Dislikes
    Brian Gallant

I would normally be mad about these kind of tactics, but it is what
this government deserves.

    4 hours ago 11 Likes 0 Dislikes


    Mike Smith

The Gallant Liberals have increased their take of the HST by 25% Who
gets a 25% increase? It's robbery.

    4 hours ago 10 Likes 0 Dislikes


    Dave white

The PC's are acting like spoiled children,if they can't get what they
want they will throw a temper tantrum .

    4 hours ago 1 Like 12 Dislikes

    Mack Leigh

@Dave white

Definitely not throwing a temper tantrum in my books !! Perhaps using
stalling tactics so that this bunch of Liberals don't cause any more
damage would be a better reason?????

    1 hour ago 4 Likes 0 Dislikes

    Douglas James

The New Brunswick Legislature sounds like a big playpen with children
who can't along. Don't these politicians realize that there is a
growing undercurrent of anti-establishmentarianism in society and that
this is one reason why?

    4 hours ago 7 Likes 0 Dislikes


    Gisele Grignet

"Liberal and PC MLAs traded insults and accusations Wednesday over
dozens of opposition bills and motions that have ground the
legislature to a halt."

That's what you can expect when the house doesn't actually "sit". What
were they thinking being out so long?

    5 hours ago 10 Likes 0 Dislikes


    Wayne Mac Arthur

Stalled is about right speed for this bunch.You can't do much harm if
you are doing nothing.The government,which is made up of both majority
and minority parties,are there to run the province. They both seem to
be in the sand box fighting over pail and shovel.

    5 hours ago 8 Likes 0 Dislikes


    Alex Forbes

Must be nice to regularly have the summer off and your biggest concern
being time wasted in the little time you are at 'work'.

    5 hours ago 11 Likes 1 Dislike


    Kevin Smith

Like everyone else, keep working until you are done.

    5 hours ago 9 Likes 1 Dislike


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nombre élevé de courriels que je reçois, je ne suis pas toujours en
mesure de répondre personnellement à chacun d'entre eux.

Je vous invite à visiter notre site Web (http://www.npd.ca) pour en
savoir plus sur notre équipe de députés néo-démocrates
(http://www.npd.ca/equipe) et ne pas manquer nos dernières nouvelles
(http://www.npd.ca/nouvelles/recent).

Je vous remercie une fois de plus d'avoir pris le temps de me
transmettre vos idées, vos préoccupations et vos observations. Vos
commentaires nous aident dans notre travail.

Sincères salutations,

Bureau de Tom Mulcair, député (Outremont)
Chef, Nouveau Parti démocratique
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