Andrew Scheer's mid-campaign identity crisis

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/liberals-conservatives-misinformation-debate-1.5312125

Insults, accusations fly ahead of tonight's federal leaders' debate

Liberals accuse Conservatives of using U.S. far-right campaign tactics

Kathleen Harris · CBC News · Posted: Oct 07, 2019 4:42 PM ET



The Liberals and Conservatives traded accusations and insults today as their leaders prepared to face off in the first English language leaders' debate. (Patrick Doyle, Christinne Muschi/Reuters)

The Liberals today accused the Conservatives of using campaign tactics borrowed from the American far-right — while Andrew Scheer called Justin Trudeau's actions on a potential school strike in Ontario "quite disgusting" — in the hours before the leaders assemble for the first English language debate.

Steve MacKinnon, the Liberal candidate for the Quebec riding of Gatineau, held a news conference in Ottawa to outline a number of what he called "highly deceptive" claims the Conservatives have made about Liberal policies. He also said the Conservatives were planning to launch a website falsely stating the Liberals plan to impose a new 50 per cent tax on home sales.

That website went live shortly after MacKinnon's news conference.

"Andrew Scheer and the Conservatives are borrowing tactics from the American far right and from Rebel Media by spreading misinformation on a vast scale," MacKinnon said.

The candidate said the Conservatives have spread several spurious claims about the Liberals, citing the suggestion a notorious British child killer was being allowed to come to Canada and their warnings about the negative impacts of the Liberal carbon tax.

The "hidden home tax" is another "major lie" the Conservatives are peddling, he said.

"These Conservatives have been making up alternative facts for the entirety of this campaign, and before," MacKinnon said. "And that behaviour is behaviour that Canadians are fed up with and it's behaviour that we're going to continue calling out."

• Analysis
  Liberals step up attacks with 2 weeks left, but Conservative campaign most negative, data shows

• Analysis
  How a school strike in Ontario could affect the federal election

The accusation came just hours before Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer and Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau are set to share the stage for the English leaders' debate. The event gets underway at 7 p.m. ET and CBCNews.ca is carrying it live.

Daniel Béland, a political scientist at Montreal's McGill University, said this campaign has turned "particularly negative."

"The two main party leaders are not so attractive this time around, so a major aspect of their discourse is about why the other guy is such a bad choice," he said.

Earlier today, Scheer lashed out at Trudeau, accusing him of using the threat of a teachers' strike in Ontario to score political points. Trudeau repeatedly has pointed to cost-cutting actions by the government of Progressive Conservative Premier Doug Ford and has suggested Scheer would make similar service cuts that would harm Canadians.

Scheer: Trudeau's actions 'quite disgusting'

"I think if there's one parent who's disappointed in the strike action being resolved today, it's Justin Trudeau, and it's quite disgusting that he was trying to politicize kids' education for his own personal partisan gain," he said.

About 55,000 education workers in Ontario were poised to strike Monday. The job action was called off after the province reached a deal with the Canadian Union of Public Employees.

Even though education is a provincial responsibility, federal Conservatives were worried about the potential impact of a strike on their political fortunes in Ontario — particularly in crucial swing ridings in the Greater Toronto Area — because they have heard repeatedly from voters that Ford's record is making them reluctant to vote for Scheer.

 
Six party leaders will take part in one English and one French debate hosted by the Canadian Debate Production Partnership. Left to right: Justin Trudeau (Liberal), Andrew Scheer (Conservative), Jagmeet Singh (NDP), Elizabeth May (Green Party), Maxime Bernier (People's Party of Canada) and Yves-François Blanchet (Bloc Québécois). (CBC)

Responding to the Conservative website accusing the Liberals of harbouring a secret plan to tax home sales, the Liberal war room said the material posted by the Conservatives represents a single proposal among many in a summary of independent testimony from a range of people.

The Liberals say the suggestion was never considered as a party proposal and that the Conservatives are "deliberately and knowingly spreading misinformation."

On Twitter, Liberal candidate Adam Vaughan said the idea was floated at town halls by members of the public. He flatly denied the party ever planned to adopt the idea.

"It was never discussed as a policy. It's not a position I support. It's not Liberal policy. It's as real as Scheer's claim to be an insurance agent," he tweeted.

The Conservative website hiddenhometax.ca says the Liberals have a "secret plan to implement a tax on up to 50 per cent of the profits on the sale of your home."

"Brace yourselves Canada: Justin Trudeau is coming for your wallet, only after the election, when he doesn't need your vote, but still needs your money," the website reads.

"You just can't trust Justin Trudeau. He is not as advertised."

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/andrew-scheer-american-citizenship-2019-election-1.5308174

Andrew Scheer's mid-campaign identity crisis

From citizenship to same-sex marriage to pre-politics resumés, Scheer is struggling to define his own image

Aaron Wherry · CBC News · Posted: Oct 04, 2019 4:50 PM ET

 

Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer has been losing precious campaign time to questions about his views on abortion and same-sex marriage, his work history and his dual Canadian/American citizenship. (CBC)

Andrew Scheer was not well known to Canadians when this election campaign began. For him, that wasn't necessarily an insurmountable problem.

But now he has spent nearly four weeks of the campaign struggling to explain to Canadians who he is, and muddling through a series of identity crises in public.

When he ran for the Conservative leadership, Scheer happily accepted the "Stephen Harper with a smile" label. With that as his political identity, the Conservatives sought to further define their leader as an average guy who grew up in a middle-class household

Scheer (we were told) is a guy like you, or least like someone you might know. In other words, he's not Justin Trudeau.

In political terms, that persona has its merits. But this is Scheer's first election as party leader and, before winning the leadership, he was not a particularly prominent public figure. As a result, his character and personal history had not been poked and prodded in any serious way by journalists and political rivals before this fall.

Too often over the last seven weeks, he has seemed to crumble on contact.

Fast attacks, slow response

The Liberals took the first poke on Aug. 22, when they posted video of a speech Scheer gave in 2005 opposing same-sex marriage. Scheer didn't immediately step forward to address what he'd said 14 years ago. By the time he did talk about it with reporters, the Liberals had posted another video — this one raising questions about what Scheer had told anti-abortion activists during his campaign for Conservative leader.

When Scheer faced the television cameras on Aug. 30, he accused the Liberals of "dredging up divisive issues." But he didn't do much to account for what he'd said in 2005, and he struggled to clarify how he would handle matters related to abortion if he were prime minister now. A Scheer government, he said, would neither introduce nor support legislation related to abortion — but he stopped short of saying that Conservative backbenchers would be prevented from moving forward with abortion-related measures.

While questions about those issues were left to linger, others emerged.

First, there were the questions about whether he had misrepresented himself when he said he'd worked as an insurance broker. As it turned out, he had not been licensed as a broker, and he'd only worked in an insurance company's office for "six or seven months."

Asked by the CBC's Rosemary Barton this week whether he should just admit to being a "career politician," Scheer still insisted on the value of his apparently limited experience in the private sector.
During that same interview (part of CBC's Face to Face sessions with the major party leaders), Scheer again declined to elaborate or reflect on his opinion of same-sex marriage, or explain why he declines to march in Pride parades. (The parade-related questions for Scheer extended to the climate change strikes, which he also avoided last Friday.)

Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau presses Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer for his personal views on abortion and a woman's right to choose during the TVA French-language leaders debate Wednesday. 0:47

Early in Wednesday's TVA televised leaders debate, Trudeau went directly after Scheer, calling on the Conservative leader to account for his personal beliefs on abortion. Scheer has in the past described himself as "pro-life" but at that moment, in front of the cameras, he was unwilling to explain himself.

By the next morning, Scheer apparently had decided that he should be more forthcoming. 
 

Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer says he is personally pro-life, but reiterated that if elected he would not reopen the abortion debate. 0:30

"My personal position has always been open and consistent. I am personally pro-life," he said at an event in Kingston, Ont.

Hours later, talk of Scheer and abortion was swept away by the news that the Conservative leader is a dual citizen of Canada and the United States. That detail wouldn't have been much more than a footnote in the campaign if not for the fact that several Conservatives — including Scheer himself — had questioned the dual citizenships of Stéphane Dion, Tom Mulcair and Michaëlle Jean.

"I have a few quick questions for anyone who thinks that Michaëlle Jean is a good choice to be our next GG," Scheer wrote in a 2005 blog post. "Does it bother you that she is a dual citizen (France and Canada)? Would it bother you if instead of French citizenship, she held U.S. citizenship?"

Missed opportunity?

That might've been a good moment to disclose his own American citizenship. On Thursday, Scheer said he never mentioned it because no one ever asked. When he wrote about Jean, he said, he was "just asking questions" about what his constituents thought.

Scheer has said he decided to renounce his U.S. citizenship after he became leader of the Conservative party in May 2017. But he then apparently waited until this past August to start the actual process.

And so, Scheer spent a good part of Friday morning — as he was trying to publicize his party's crime platform — fielding questions about how much he had paid in taxes to the U.S. government and whether he'd registered for the U.S. military's draft. Today, the party confirmed that Scheer is registered with the U.S. Selective Service System, the federal agency that administers the draft. 
 

Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer today defended his personal stance on abortion while promising he would not reopen an abortion debate. Scheer also confirmed that he holds dual citizenship with the U.S., which he is planning to renounce. 1:52

"Everyone who knows me, or knows my family, knows that my father was born in the United States, and I've been open with that," Scheer said.

Thing is, everyone doesn't know him.

It might frustrate Conservatives that it's their guy being chased by questions about his personal convictions and history, when it's the other guy — the leader of the Liberal Party — who dressed up in blackface before entering politics.

The comparison is instructive, though.

If Trudeau has (mostly) managed to get past the blackface photos without losing a significant amount of support, it likely has something to do with how familiar voters are with him — not only as someone who has lived much of his life in public, but as a prime minister who now has a four-year record of governing. While blackface photos might have fixed the label of racism on another candidate permanently, Trudeau can point to contrary evidence, and voters can fall back on their familiarity with him. 
 

Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau says Andrew Scheer is not being honest with Canadians over his dual citizenship. When challenged by a reporter at a campaign stop in Quebec about whether he was dishonest about wearing blackface, Trudeau says he "took responsibility for his mistakes in the past." 0:44

Scheer has no such history to fall back on.

And what the candidate says in such situations does matter. Trudeau made a deliberate effort to explain his behaviour — first with an apology, then with a news conference. Even this week, in his own Face to Face appearance, Trudeau was still expanding on that explanation.

"I genuinely thought that intent mattered," Trudeau said. "I thought that because I wasn't a racist, I could do this and it wouldn't be a bad thing and I didn't understand back then — and I'm fully up front about it — that it actually really hurt people."

Whether you accept that explanation or not, it at least suggests some amount of self-reflection. And the more a politician explains, the less there is for reporters and opponents to keep asking about.

• Andrew Scheer is registered for selective service — the U.S. agency that runs the military draft

• Opinion
  If Scheer wants to stop being questioned on his views on gay marriage, he should offer an answer: Robyn Urback

• 'I am personally pro-life,' Scheer says, vowing not to re-open abortion debate

If Scheer had used his appearance on Aug. 30 to explain his personal convictions on abortion, how he reconciles those beliefs with the responsibilities he would have as prime minister and how, if at all, his thinking had evolved on same-sex marriage since 2005, he might not have been facing the same questions in October. (He also might have headed off some of those questions if he'd appeared in a Pride parade.)

Scheer could have used the moment on Aug. 30 to deliver a remarkable speech. And he probably wouldn't be using up precious campaign time now trying to explain himself if he'd disclosed his dual citizenship two years ago. Instead, he's ended up looking evasive.

No politician should expect to become prime minister without telling voters who they are. Running for high office always invites an intense degree of unfamiliar scrutiny.

Ideally, a new leader might arrive with as little unflattering history as possible. But when that scrutiny does bring things to light, politicians can only hope to do a decent job of explaining themselves.

If Scheer fails to emerge victorious from this fall's campaign, one of the first questions he'll have to ask himself is whether he should have done that better, and sooner. 
 

About the Author

Aaron Wherry

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Aaron Wherry has covered Parliament Hill since 2007 and has written for Maclean's, the National Post and the Globe and Mail. He is the author of Promise & Peril, a book about Justin Trudeau's years in power.

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What to expect from tonight's leaders debate

Posted: Oct 07, 2019 4:49 PM AT

Polls analyst Éric Grenier talks to CBC New Brunswick's Harry Forestell about the final English-language debate.  3:49



 

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David Raymond Amos
Methinks the old Bard put it to pen better than any of us ever will N'esy Pas?

"Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive?" 















John Smith
Regarding their responses to blackface and dual-citizenship backlashes:

TRUDEAU:
“The fact is that I didn’t understand how hurtful this is to people who live with discrimination every single day. I have always acknowledged that I come from a place of privilege but I now need to acknowledge that that comes with a massive blind spot."
He said his “layers of privilege” as a wealthy white man meant that he didn’t see the racism behind his actions and ”for that I am deeply sorry and I apologize.”
“It was blackface and that is just not right,” Mr. Trudeau said.

SCHEER:
When asked today why he never made his dual citizenship public, Scheer said nobody had ever asked him about it.
"It's not a big deal for people to have dual citizenship," Scheer said.


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @John Smith: Whats your point?















John Smith
Just trust the conservative party, based on their party make-up?

Scheer has has at least 78 documented anti-choice MPs on his team. How's he going to keep them happy?

Party / Total MPs / Anti-choice MPs** / Pro-choice MPs*** / Unknown or Indeterminate Stance
Liberal / 177 / 6* (3.5%) / 170* (96%) 1
Conservative 95 / 78 (82%) / 5 (5%) / 12 (13%)

**Anti-choice MPs are designated as anti-choice based on at least one of these reasons:
• Voted in favour of Bill C-225, and/or Bill C-484, and/or Bill C-510, and/or Motion 312
• Opposed the Order of Canada for Dr. Henry Morgentaler in 2008
• Made public anti-choice or “pro-life” statements
• Participated publicly in anti-choice events or campaigns

*All Liberal MPs have agreed and will be required to vote pro-choice on any abortion-related bills/motions.


David Raymond Amos 

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Reply to @John Smith: Methinks everybody knows that I have vowed to reopen the abortion-related issues during the debate in Fundy Royal tomorrow night N'esy Pas? 

 

John Smith
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: anti-choice groups are big funders of the Conservative party.


David Raymond Amos  

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Reply to @John Smith: Methinks you forgot to ask me my standing on the issue Everybody else knows it has changed since I spoke about that topic in Fundy Royal 2004 N'esy Pas? 
 

Cassie Foster
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: CBC needs to block this American nutcase!


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Cassie Foster: Methinks my mindless critics are busy ling up before the big debate tonight N'esy Pas? 

 

David Raymond Amos  
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Reply to @Cassie Foster: Too Too Funny Now your nasty comments are going "Poof" N'esy Pas?

















John Smith
Just trust the conservative party, based on their track record?

Throughout his tenure as Prime Minister, Harper repeatedly said he would not legislate on abortion, and would not re-open the abortion debate.
However, Harper allowed his backbenchers to bring forward private member bills and motions that threatened to restrict abortion rights, and permitted a free vote for his MPs. Between 2006 and 2014, six Conservative backbenchers introduced anti-choice bills or motions. None of them succeeded, but Bill C-484 passed second reading in 2007. Harper himself voted in favour of C-484, as well as against Dr. Henry Morgentaler’s Order of Canada in 2008.2 Harper also had said in 2004, when running for the leadership of the Conservative Party, that he would oppose any bill limiting provincial funding to abortion services and would not support a referendum on abortion. However, as soon as the Conservatives were first elected in 2006, they largely stopped enforcing the Canada Health Act, allowing provinces to flout the Act openly.
In 2010, Canada hosted the G8 Summit and Harper pledged $1.1 billion for maternal health.
However, funding for safe abortion was explicitly excluded from the pledge, as was contraception initially, until Harper was forced to back down due to the outcry. He never rescinded the abortion funding prohibition, however, which required ignoring the advice of his own experts at CIDA, as well as many global experts in the field.  


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @John Smith: Methinks I should thank you for all the info N'esy Pas? 
 

David Raymond Amos 
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Reply to @John Smith: Here is some interesting breaking news on this topic Trust that I have been on the phone and making comments as well

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/green-party-glengarry-prescott-russell-abortion-1.5311705

Green Party drops anti-abortion candidate in Ontario riding

Candidate Marthe Lépine accuses Green Party of 'flagrant' anti-Catholic 'discrimination'
Catharine Tunney · CBC News · Posted: Oct 07, 2019 12:02 PM ET

@Dane Foley: Methinks everybody knows why I would like to talk with Candidate Marthe Lépine N'esy Pas?

Well I could track her down so I talked Pierre Lemieux's people instead and they did not know about this news and could not remember me either.Surprise Surprise



Cassie Foster
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Reply to @John Smith: Absolutely. If it were not for the Senate blocking Harper...Harper would have been successful with his agenda!


David Raymond Amos  

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Reply to @Cassie Foster: Methinks too bad so sad that that you got your wish about blocking my comment above yours However it can be read elsewhere N'esy Pas?

Rese Archer
Looks like his hypocrisy and truthiness shennanigans last week are taking a toll: "Conservative deputy leader Lisa Raitt says she won’t invite Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer to visit her riding, and won’t be touring other districts, as she tries to fight off a star Liberal candidate in Milton and win re-election. [...] “I’ve got to win my seat,” Ms. Raitt told The Hill Times in a phone interview last week, when asked why..." Ouch. He's gonna have to be really on at the debate tonight - the GTA is important.


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Rese Archer: Methinks that Too Too Funny Indeed in Light of the fact Lisa Raitt had lots to say about the liberal in her old stomping grounds but then again so did N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-battiste-candidate-social-media-1.5311106

"In a statement, Lisa Raitt, the Conservative candidate for Milton, Ont., called Trudeau "a fake feminist" for allowing Battiste to stand as a Liberal candidate." 

 

David Raymond Amos
Methinks I should not be surprised 3 days later (Anyone recall my first comment on this topic?) All I heard since is critics and crickets before the first big debate ce soir N'esy Pas?









  

David Raymond Amos 
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Methinks it too bad so sad that so many comments go "Poof" N'esy Pas?





David Raymond Amos 
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Methinks many comments prove that lots of folks agree the many opinions published by CBC have certainly helped the job security of its employees particularly in light of recent news and corresponding polling results N'esy Pas?

Albert Gagnon

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Alot of stink coming out of Andrew mouth he just can't be trusted

 

David Raymond Amos 

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Reply to @albert gagnon: Who could trust a Yankee who spoke for the Queen for many years and didn't bother telling anyone that he should not? 


Malcolm Alexander
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Reply to @David Raymond Amos:
He spoke for Harper, no one else.

Ian Douglas

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Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Why not? It isn't illegal. Over 50 Canadian parliamentarians currently hold dual citizenship.

David Raymond Amos  

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Reply to @Ian Douglas: Why do you think I sued the Queen in 2015 while running for a seat in Parliament again if I didn't think he was as crooked as hell then?

Grace Guanyin
Yankee Doodle Andy….Keep American thinking south of the 49th parallel!
We do not need Trump thinking in Canada!


David Raymond Amos  

Reply to @Grace Guanyin: Methinks its becoming blatantly obvious on a daily basis that there is more to Harper 2.0 than what first meets the eyes The question is why did the liberals hold back on relating this to us until now N'esy Pas? 

 

Marie Price
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: The Liberals did not hold back it was the Globe and Mail who had this information back in August.

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Marie Price: Methinks she gave it to them and many agree with me N'esy Pas?

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: BTW I am talking about JWR's revelation to Fife about Trudeau et al. I believe Sheer's questionable party is toast Hence I am far more concerned about Trudeau winning an undesreved majority mandate 
 

Grace Guanyin

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: From what I have read about you Amos, you are an American. You attempted to insert yourself into Canadian politics and there is a petition to have you thrown out of Canada for some very serious reasons...tell us about the petition. Methinks you should not be on social media N'esy Pas!

Grace Guanyin 

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: The opposition has done nothing but obstruct parliament in the last four years...Liberals need a majority to silence the obstruction and continue growing Canada's economy.

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Grace Guanyin: Methinks you should keep reading but I suspect that you may already know that you are already way past too late and that your insulting words about me will never evaporate because they are already recorded within social media N'esy Pas? 
 

Cassie Foster
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: That is not an answer! 


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Cassie Foster: Methinks desperate liberals post desperate things N'esy Pas?
















David Evans
READ: CPC = Cheating Party of Canada
By Michael Harris. Published on Jun 4, 2017


David Raymond Amos   

Reply to @David Evans: Methinks there is lots to read about the liberals too and most folks have yet to read JWR's book N'esy Pas? 

 

Marie Price
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: JWR's book is not being bought. It's not really a bonafide assessment of anything. It's a series of chapters of speeches she gave, and the last few chapters are her assessments of indigenous relations. It's clear by your statement that you did not read the book!


David Raymond Amos    

Reply to @Marie Price: Nope but she ordered her minions to argue my lawsuit for four years and its far more important that her book Correct?

George Carter
Well, there goes the hypocrisy excuse "https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-battiste-candidate-social-media-1.5311106";


David Raymond Amos   

Reply to @George Carter: YUP Methinks they can't afford to be rid of him because he was far too high in the polls N'esy Pas?

Allan Baker
The article states "First, there were the questions about whether he had misrepresented himself when he said he'd worked as an insurance broker. As it turned out, he had not been licensed as a broker, and he'd only worked in an insurance company's office for "six or seven months.""

It’s illegal under the Saskatchewan Insurance Act for anyone without a licence to act as a broker or “hold himself out” to be a broker. The RCMP must charge Scheer!


David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Allan Baker: Dream on

Cassie Foster
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Your American views are unwanted in Canada Amos.


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Cassie Foster: Methinks you should back away from the red kool aid long enough to realize that I am a Proud Canadian Citizen only who has run for public office against your malevolent political party 7 times thus far N'esy Pas?

Brent Chambers
Scheer "plans to reduce federal regulations by 25 per cent, and eliminate two regulations for every new one that is introduced, among other proposals." Now Scheer is mimicking Trump. We can see where this is going. American Andy!


David Raymond Amos   

Reply to @Brent Chambers: Trudeau The Elder admitted long ago that he felt we were like mouse in bed with and elephant Methinks Harper and Bush and now his new buddy Trump proved that for us long before Scheer became the latest leader of their questionable party In 2004.

In fact while I was running in the election of the 38th Parliament in Fundy Royal where Frank McKenna was born and raised the good buddy of Bill and Hillary Clinton called Harper a lapdog for Bush and nobody denied it It should be a small wondr why I am running in Fundy Royal again against the same lawyer who was one Harper's former Cabinet Ministers N'esy Pas?

POLITICAL DOGMA

Harper's a lapdog for Bush, Martin's a German shepherd,
says former N.B. premier

Canadian Press

To hear former New Brunswick premier Frank McKenna tell it, political debate is going to the dogs.

In Regina, Sask., to help Finance Minister Ralph Goodale win re-election, Mr. McKenna suggested at a rally that opposition leaders offered up a dog's breakfast to voters during the televised leaders debates.

Mr. McKenna described NDP Leader Jack Layton as "an annoying yappy little terrier," Bloc Québécois Leader Gilles Duceppe as a "French poodle," and Conservative Leader Stephen Harper as "a lapdog for George Bush."

Showing his true dogma, Mr. McKenna had nothing but praise Tuesday for his pet choice. The prime minister, Mr. McKenna said, was "a noble German shepherd standing up for the interests of Canada."

"What does Jack Layton have to lose? He can yap away. No one expects him to win Very much .. . No one attacks aim because he's irrelevant."

Karl Bueckert
https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2019/08/06/Harper-Heads-Global-Org-Help-Elect-Right-Wing-Parties/?fbclid=IwAR1tuRH_lqYGR8TAZxR5Yq5zf-p_V6KYHMVEa9H6Z-BZEZ7Tg2Kfm6nR1No

Karl Bueckert

Reply to @Karl Bueckert: "Stephen Harper Heads a Global Org That Helps Get Right-Wing Parties Elected. What Will It Do for Andrew Scheer?"
Voter suppression works. Ask the Kochs, Trump and our very own robocall fakers.

By Michael Harris 6 Aug 2019 | TheTyee.ca

David Raymond Amos  

Reply to @Karl Bueckert: Methinks I should continue to ask why you want me to be deported while I am busy running in Fundy Royal against Rob Moore et al I bet you have yet to read my lawsuit N'esy Pas? 

 

David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Karl Bueckert: Methinks whereas you can post a link to a left wing opinion I should be allowed to post a link to irrefutable documents on file and argued in Federal Court for 4 years N'esy Pas?

https://www.scribd.com/doc/265620671/Cross-Border-Txt


Cassie Foster
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: You are a testament to the rampant mental disease in the US.














Gary Haggquist
Scheer is totally unfit to be prime minister.

Ian Douglas

Reply to @Gary Haggquist: I will assume you feel the same about JT. He has proven himself unfit, the evidence is there to support that assessment. What evidence supports your assessment of Mr Scheer?

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Ian Douglas: Check out Federal Court File No T-1557-15

Karl Bueckert
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Amos, you irritating self promotion is freakishly bizarre. Why don't you tell us why there is a petition to throw you out of Canada??

Brent Chambers

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: What is this??? https://www.change.org/p/canadian-immigration-deport-david-raymond-amos

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Brent Chambers: Methinks instead of paying attention to Dean Roger Ray's malicious nonsense you also have read my lawsuit just as I had suggested Anyone can scroll down to statement number 75 to see why N'esy Pas?

http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2015/09/v-behaviorurldefaultvmlo.html

David Raymond Amos
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Reply to @Brent Chambers: This is Statement No: 75

75. The Plaintiff states that the RCMP is well aware of the libel, sexual harassment, and death threats practiced against his family that have been published on the Internet since 2005 by fans (Trolls) who supported Byron Prior. Four Trolls who live in Alberta are Barry Winters, Dean Roger Ray, Eddy Achtem and Patrick Doran They have many “Anonymous” cohorts throughout Canada, the USA and the United Kingdom. The actions of these Trolls created an important example of cyberbullying. Law enforcement officials have ignored these Trolls because of the Plaintiff’s standing as a whistleblower exposing corruption within the justice system. The Plaintiff is aware that several people complained about their actions over the years. In fact the mother of Dean Roger Ray recently her indignation in Barry Winter’s blog. Complaints about Barry Winters can be seen on the Internet by Glen Canning and Professor Kris Wells, two politically well-connected people who complain of cyberbullying often. Proof the Edmonton Police Force (EPS), RCMP, FBI and police in the UK have been ignoring the Plaintiff’s complaints about these Trolls can also viewed on the Internet. The Plaintiff fought fire with fire but did so in a legal fashion and kept the police fully informed of his actions. The Plaintiff was successful in causing numerous egregious videos and several blogs to be taken down after doing his best to find out who the “Anonymous” people were and reporting them. He saved all the blogs and videos published about his family before the malice was removed from public view.


David Raymond Amos

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Reply to @Brent Chambers: Continued
Three Trolls who continue to attack his family and others are Dean Roger Ray, Barry Winters and one government employee. A member of the legal dept. of Edmonton tried to claim that the Plaintiff was Barry Winters then complained to the EPS about the Plaintiff’s questions about her incompetence. Professor Kris Wells, who was associated with the Police Commission of Edmonton and Glen Canning, who lost his daughter to cyberbullying, said nothing. They were content that the Plaintiff managed to convince Google’s lawyers to remove one of Barry Winters’s blogs on October 23, 2014 and say nothing about his blog within WordPress that the Troll uses to continue his libel of them and their friends. Instead Glen Canning slandered the Plaintiff within Twitter after Kris Wells sent the Plaintiff an email stating his lawyer had advised him to ignore Barry Winters and his blogs.

David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Brent Chambers: Your hero Dean Roger Ray crawled under a rock after I argued 3 Justices within the Federal Court of Appeal and pointed to the words of Barry Winters in statement 83 of my aforementioned about Justin Trudeau and I. Within days the news came out Winters was arrested

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/edmonton-police-lgbtq-hate-blogger-kris-wells-1.4158528

Edmonton police charge blogger with hate crime against prof
Andrea Huncar · CBC News · Posted: Jun 13, 2017 4:32 PM MT

"Court records show police have charged Barry Winters, 62, with wilful promotion of hatred in ongoing posts for his blog The Baconfat Papers over a two-year period ending Dec. 31, 2016."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/nobody-safe-from-edmonton-blogger-charged-with-hate-crime-1.4161015

'Nobody was safe from it': Edmonton blogger charged with rare hate crime targeted individuals across Canada

Police say Barry Winters, 62, made derogatory remarks about race, gender, politics
Roberta Bell · CBC News · Posted: Jun 14, 2017 5:38 PM M

However I am still not convinced that he is dead.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/barry-winters-kris-wells-lgbtq-edmonton-hate-charges-1.4201914

Professor hopeful hate-crime charge will deter others, despite death of accused

CBC News · Posted: Jul 12, 2017 3:45 PM MT

"The man charged with wilful promotion of hatred for offensive language he used on his blog, The Baconfat Papers, died of a stroke July 4, one of the complainants confirmed Wednesday.


















Malcolm Alexander
Scheer has already defined himself.
His wooden "smile" has him pegged as the Howdy Doody of the Canadian political world.

Allan Baker

Reply to @Malcolm Alexander: Scheer wears a costume every day!

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Allan Baker: and Trudeau does not?

 

David Raymond Amos

Methinks many do agree that Aaron Wherry's opinions have removed all doubt as to who he is working for N'esy Pas? 


Malcolm Alexander
Reply to @David Raymond Amos:
Yeah, but it is N'est pas.


David Raymond Amos  

Reply to @Malcolm Alexander: Chiac

Brent Chambers
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Your American opinion means squat Amos!


David Raymond Amos  

Reply to @Brent Chambers: Methinks everybody but you knows that I am a Proud Canadian Citizen ONLY who has run for public office 7 times thus far N'esy Pas?

 

Charles Harper

CTV's Don Martin wrote that 10 years ago when Justin was a back bencher, Trudeau said that he could never run for PM because he had too many secrets.
It's Trudeau panicking and placing legal injunctions on the press...not Scheer.

google:
Justin Trudeau was never properly vetted. Canada is paying the price.

David Raymond Amos 

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Reply to @charles harper: Methinks everybody would love to review Don Martin's article about now excepting Mr Butts and Mr Wherry N'esy Pas?

Obviously I read it

Don Martin: The knight in shining armour falls hard from his high horse
Published Friday, September 20, 2019

"Roughly ten years ago, I had lunch with then-backbench MP Justin Trudeau to pitch him on a warts-and-all biography.

The way I figured it, he was five years away from being Liberal leader and eight from being prime minister so a book could introduce him to voters without sugarcoating.

He listened politely before shrugging off the idea, saying he'd never be prime minister. He had too many secrets."

David Raymond Amos  

Reply to @charles harper: Google "Fundy Royal Debate" and you will know some of what CTV has known since 2002  


Malcolm Alexander

Reply to @charles harper:
Really?
Where is the CTV link?

David Raymond Amos   

Reply to @Malcolm Alexander: It went "Poof"

David Raymond Amos   

Reply to @Malcolm Alexander: Google this

Don Martin: The knight in shining armour falls hard from his high horse 
 

Karl Bueckert

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: NO! Your self promotion has no place here.

David Raymond Amos    

Reply to @Karl Bueckert: Methinks I have another stalker on the Internet Perhaps you should say Hey to your buddy Dean Roger Ray and his buddies in the RCMP for me N'esy Pas?

Tony Trowel

Absolutely amazing. That's 4 articles in the past 24 hours on a ridiculous non-issue. That's more coverage than Justin's blackface scandal.  

John Chow

Reply to @Tony Trowel:
Teflon Trudeau.

Jey Rome 

Reply to @John Chow:
Only because of the criminally complicit MSM like CBC & CTV.

Mark Courneyea 

Reply to @Tony Trowel: "Tony Trowel"....hm, "Trowel" eh? Is it just me or does that sound fake? CBC - you doin' your job? When I see a name like "Tony Trowel", I have my doubts. Looked up "Trowel" on 411.ca - nothing...just saying, ya know...so can we start making bogus accounts again?

Louren Organzo 

Reply to @Tony Trowel: blah blah blah days the baught

Ivan Nano 

Reply to @Tony Trowel: And all he had to do to end these questions was to tell the truth. Yet he continues to muddy the waters hoping people won't notice the fraud behind the curtain.

Hans-Joerg Mueller 

Reply to @Tony Trowel:
And how many were there on dressing up for a few parties? 

 

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Tony Trowel: Go figure  

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Mark Courneyea: Methinks you liberal dudes should at least admit that I have a real name and it can be found on the ballot in Fundy Royal again. (The first time was in 2004) Anyone can Google "Fundy Royal Debate" to hear what I said four very long years ago N'esy Pas?  


Mark Courneyea
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Sorry, David - are you claiming to be both "David Raymond Amos" and "Tony Trowel"? If not, then I'm not really sure what you are trying to say. If it is what you are trying to say ... CBC! Over here! Fake account alert! You know what to do!

Jack Thompson

Looks like Trudeau was not telling the truth about being a math teacher. The yearbook lists all the math teachers at the school and his name is not there. 

Darren MacDonald

Reply to @Jack Thompson: I'm sure if a lot comes out tomorrow, Wherry will go silent on the articles.  

Janice Vian

Reply to @Jack Thompson: he taught math at a different school.

Bob Rialy

Reply to @Janice Vian: Taught pre law as well. He's so smart.

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Bob Rialy: Methinks he should have read the lawsuit I filed in 2015 that I mentioned him in when Harper was the PM and the Yankee Scheer spoke for our Queen N'esy Pas? 

 

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Darren MacDonald: Methinks it would not be wise to bet the farm on your reasoning With so much time left before polling day I doubt Mr Wherry would not be allowed to go silent N'esy Pas? 















   

Laine Smith

Hey CBC, I found that election interference you were warning us about

John James 

Reply to @Laine Smith: the Russians must have hacked the editing room. Lmao

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Laine Smith: Me Too 

Jon Smith

Scheer is on the right side of all the issues. Stand your ground Andrew. The CBC and Justin are in the weeds.

John James

Reply to @Jon Smith: i think you meant on the weed

Rick Wier

Reply to @Jon Smith: Andy, soon to be a footnote in history, wonder which Harper retread the conservatives will turn to next, you can have Kenney back any time you want, he is floundering in Alberta. Maybe go with Dougie?

Ivan Nano

Reply to @Jon Smith: He refuses to clearly say what he really believes: that the state should have control over women's bodies, the world was better when st8 white men made all the decisions, the LGBT people should be ostracized/shunned, that the poor are completely to blame for their situation, that the oil industry should have even a stronger control over Canada, , ...

So he has muddied to waters hoping people wouldn't notice the fraud behind the curtain.

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Jon Smith: Surely you jest 

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Rick Wier: Methinks the Fat Lady ain't sung yet N'esy Pas?  

Donald Patrick

Crisis? CBC is getting worse as the election draws closer. Real desperation. I guess they are afraid to lose their sugar-daddy........and they should be!!!

Csin Banat

Reply to @Donald Patrick: watch out the elephant in the room!

George Bath

Reply to @Donald Patrick: oh I see it's ok for Harper and scheer to mock another person but not the cbc?
where's my hypocrisy sharpie

Marq See 

Reply to @Donald Patrick: he's struggling, so it is a crisis.

Kirk Miller

Reply to @csin banat: blkface...snc...nor man...there are many elements in the room 

 

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Donald Patrick: Sometimes the truth is awful funny 













 

Gerald Johnston

Wherry is a liberal hack,, fits in great at the cbc

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Gerald Johnston: Surprise Surprise Surprise 

 https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-battiste-candidate-social-media-1.5311106 

Trudeau won't remove Liberal candidate for racist, sexist social media posts

Jaime Battiste apologized for his comments in a statement released by the party

The Canadian Press · Posted: Oct 06, 2019 2:56 PM ET

Jaime Battiste is the Liberal candidate in Sydney-Victoria. (Gary Mansfield/CBC)


Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau says comments made by a Liberal candidate in Nova Scotia in old social media posts are unacceptable, but that he is not removing him as a candidate.

Jaime Battiste, who is running for the Liberals in the riding of Sydney-Victoria, issued an apology earlier this week after the Toronto Sun shared past racist and sexist remarks he had made on social media.

One 2012 tweet from Battiste said, "Why do I assume every skinny aboriginal girl is on crystal meth or pills?"

Battiste told the newspaper that the posts were crude jokes he made at a different time in his life, but he now realizes they were offensive.

• Cape Breton Liberal candidate unworthy of seat after offensive tweets, say Tories

• Conservatives eject B.C. candidate over 'offensive' comments about LGBTQ people

During a campaign event in Plainfield, Ont., this morning, Trudeau said Battiste has taken responsibility for his actions and apologized.

Trudeau called the language in the posts unacceptable, but said he is pleased Battiste has apologized unreservedly.

Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau is asked if he feels like he can't remove a candidate for past racist and sexist remarks due to his own personal history with blackface. 0:33


Trudeau sidestepped a question about whether he feels limited in his ability to censure candidates for past behaviour after photos and a video emerged in the first week of the campaign showing the Liberal leader in blackface.

Conservatives criticize 'fake feminist'

In a statement, Lisa Raitt, the Conservative candidate for Milton, Ont., called Trudeau "a fake feminist" for allowing Battiste to stand as a Liberal candidate.

The Conservative candidate in Sydney-Victoria, Eddie Orrell, said he doesn't know Battiste personally, so he can't say whether the Liberal candidate has changed since the tweets were made.

"You know, it was a real shock to me to see that written after the (local candidates) debate the night before. I thought we had a good debate."

"I was surprised to see (the tweets) came out this late in the campaign. I would expect that if something like that would have happened, it probably would have come out a lot earlier," Orrell said.

But Orrell says the controversy doesn't change anything for his campaign.

"We have our own campaign to run and I've never looked at anyone else's campaign to find out what they were doing and if we would change ours different. We had a plan from the start and we're going to stick to that plan."

The NDP candidate in Sydney-Victoria, Jodi McDavid, declined to comment.

CBC News previously requested an interview with Battiste, but the Liberal Party declined the request. It instead sent out a statement via email attributed to him.

"I would like to apologize for my comments," he said. "At times in my life, I have made crude jokes that I thought were funny at the time, but I realize now that these words were offensive.

"These were things I said during difficult times in my life, and they are not a reflection of my beliefs or who I am today. I apologize unreservedly."

Susan Farrell, Battiste's campaign manager and president of the Sydney-Victoria Liberal Association, declined to comment, but said Battiste will continue to campaign Monday. She said Battiste was at home Sunday in Eskasoni First Nation with his family.

With files from CBC News

CBC's Journalistic Standards and Practices

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David Raymond Amos
Methinks some folks may find this an interesting exchange just now N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/andrew-scheer-american-citizenship-2019-election-1.5308174
 

Rese Archer
Looks like his hypocrisy and truthiness shennanigans last week are taking a toll: "Conservative deputy leader Lisa Raitt says she won’t invite Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer to visit her riding, and won’t be touring other districts, as she tries to fight off a star Liberal candidate in Milton and win re-election. [...] “I’ve got to win my seat,” Ms. Raitt told The Hill Times in a phone interview last week, when asked why..." Ouch. He's gonna have to be really on at the debate tonight - the GTA is important.

David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Rese Archer: Methinks that Too Too Funny Indeed in Light of the fact Lisa Raitt had lots to say about the liberal in her old stomping grounds but then again so did N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-battiste-candidate-social-media-1.5311106

"In a statement, Lisa Raitt, the Conservative candidate for Milton, Ont., called Trudeau "a fake feminist" for allowing Battiste to stand as a Liberal candidate."









Mike Hilton
Well, I guess he is now officially privileged.


David Raymond Amos  

Reply to @Mike Hilton: YUP

Garrison Healer
Donald Trump, himself, could win Sydney-Victoria under a Liberal banner.

This guy is projected to win more than 51% of the vote, in a 4-way race, versus three non-Liberals with integrity.

To paraphrase Neil Young:

Cape Breton, you've got the rest of the country to help you along
What's going on?

Ken Walsh

Reply to @Garrison Healer:
I live here and you're dead wrong...major fallout...A Conservatives and an independent leading

David Raymond Amos  

Reply to @Garrison Healer: I will believe that when I see it on polling day

David Raymond Amos  

Reply to @Ken Walsh: Thats what I heard

Ken Walsh

Reply to @David Raymond Amos:

Not after this was released ....Changed everything

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Ken Walsh: too Too Funny if it did

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Ken Walsh: Do you know who I am?

Donald Fraser 
 why should anybody be removed people in his riding can vote in two weeks
if they forgive him then why are we concerned


Donald Fraser  

Reply to @donald fraser: let them vote him out if they want

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @donald fraser: Exactly Methinks the liberals are toast in the riding anyway N'esy Pas?

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @donald fraser: He ain't in to vote out

Donald Fraser 

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: exactly my thinking so where is the problem?

Anthony Kennedy 

Reply to @donald fraser: Like Justin you have different standards for your own kind. Typical of a Liberal.

Donald Fraser  

Reply to @Anthony Kennedy: I meant this for all of them not just libs

Donald Fraser  

Reply to @Anthony Kennedy: that is why you have elections not just for the leaders for all of them

Donald Fraser  

Reply to @Anthony Kennedy: don.t you vote for a person in your riding?

Anthony Kennedy  

Reply to @donald fraser: Sure, anyone who has read anything you write would have a chuckle over that.

Donald Fraser  

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: so then vote against him or whatever is tg he case

Anthony Kennedy   

Reply to @donald fraser: Are you pretending to be bipartisan on this. It is to laugh.

Donald Fraser   

Reply to @Anthony Kennedy: I am not pretending I am
I am from the old c school
apologize and get on with it
come election time we take care of it

Donald Fraser   

Reply to @Anthony Kennedy: and that goes for all of them

Anthony Kennedy  

Reply to @donald fraser: Would you be saying the same thing if he were Conservative? As if.

Anthony Kennedy  

Reply to @donald fraser: More Liberal words with no integrity.

Donald Fraser  

Reply to @Anthony Kennedy: I just told you it goers for all of them

Anthony Kennedy 

Reply to @donald fraser: Yeah if you want to take you at your word.

Donald Fraser  

Reply to @Anthony Kennedy: how do you know you don.t even know me

Anthony Kennedy 

Reply to @donald fraser: I have read more than enough of your comments to know where you are coming from.

Donald Fraser   

Reply to @Anthony Kennedy: we spend way to much on this kind of bull on all sides instead of talking about policies

Anthony Kennedy  

Reply to @donald fraser: Now you are all about all sides. Too funny.

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @donald fraser: I am running as an Independent for the seventh time in another riding (Fundy Royal this time) Hence I can't vote there However I am rooting tor my fellow Independents Archie MacKinnon and Kenzie MacNeil and the old vet Randy Baby even though they are all too chicken to talk to me

Anthony Kennedy  
It's a free pass to behave inappropriately for the Liberals. Just apologize and it wipes the slate clean. Who votes for that nonsense?


Tony Belmore 

Reply to @Anthony Kennedy: It was Scheer that stated it they apologize they can run!

David Raymond Amos  

Reply to @Anthony Kennedy: Methinks that the liberal style N'esy Pas?

Anthony Kennedy   

Reply to @Tony Belmore: Funny didn't he just turf the BC candidate for similar remarks?

 

Marq See 

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: hey, a new name with the same odd expression.

Terry Remple

Reply to @Tony Belmore: Yes. It’s the Liberals that say not good enough unless it is one of their own. 

 

David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Marq See: Oh So True

Methinks plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose N'esy Pas?  

















Marq See
sincere apologies for youthful indiscretions lead to forgiveness.


David Raymond Amos  

Reply to @Marq See: Yea Right

Mike Hilton 

Reply to @Marq See:
He was 33 years old.

Rick Reid 

Reply to @Marq See: born in 1979.. not so youthful. His apology maybe sincere however.. its up to the voters now.

Jon Anderson 

Reply to @Marq See:
Not on the Right.....

Marq See 

Reply to @Jon Anderson: no, they appear, from previous examples, prefer to judge harshly. But this silliness is stirred from outside of Canada. Try not to be manipulated with emotional triggers from anyone you don't know.

Peter Labernarhy
After many many many years from now liberals will admit that Blackface aka Elbow man was a terrible idea

Casey Jay

Reply to @Peter Labernarhy: That all you got? No wonder you are losing. Lol..

Tommy Vee

Reply to @Peter Labernarhy: Well I predict that Canada maybe has 30-40 years left, so probably when it's too late.

Terry Remple

Reply to @Tommy Vee: No only 10 then world dies.

Casey Jay

Reply to @Tommy Vee: How so, con? Care to share your insights?

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Casey Jay: Google me I share everything including this nonsense