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Methinks it would be beneficial to all if Prime Minister Trudeau The Younger would finally evolve enough to make sense and act ethically N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/10/i-am-personally-pro-life-scheer-says.html
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-abortion-personal-beliefs-1.5308987
Trudeau says his personal stance on abortion has 'evolved'
Trudeau says it makes no sense for men to say they are pro-choice but against abortion
· CBC News · Posted: Oct 04, 2019 12:48 PM ET
Liberal leader Justin Trudeau speaks to the media while campaigning Thursday, October 3, 2019, in Montreal, Que. The Liberal camp has tried to make support for abortion in issue this campaign. (Ryan Remiorz/The Canadian Press)
Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau said today his personal views on abortion have "evolved" in the years since he stated that, while he opposed abortion personally, he supported a woman's right to choose.
While defending his Catholic faith in a 2011 article, Trudeau said he was personally opposed to abortion but believed nobody should tell a woman what she should do with her body.
"I expressed something I no longer believe," Trudeau told reporters Friday during a stop in Quebec City, when asked about that article. "I evolved pass that particular perspective.
"I no longer feel like I can or need to say that I'm against abortion. That is not for me, as a man, to say."
The Liberal camp has worked to make Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer's personal views on abortion an issue in this election campaign.
The next morning, Scheer, a practising Catholic, said he is personally opposed to abortion but insisted again that a Conservative government led by him would not move to restrict access to the procedure.
Scheer says he's 'personally pro-life'
"I am personally pro-life but I've also made the commitment that, as leader of this party, it is my responsibility to ensure that we do not re-open this debate, that we focus on issues that unite our party and unite Canadians," Scheer said Thursday.
When running for the party's leadership in 2017, Scheer told the anti-abortion group RightNow that he would allow "freedom of conscience" for backbenchers.
Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau said his personal views on abortion have "evolved" over the years, despite saying he was personally opposed to abortion in 2011. Trudeau says it's not coherent for men to say they are pro-choice but against abortion. He was answering reporter questions during a stop in Quebec. 0:50
"I can assure you that I support the right to individual MPs to speak out and bring, introduce matters that are important to them, but our party policy is clear on that and I think in order to maintain unity of our caucus it's important that the prime minister respects that," he said.
In that interview, Scheer, a known social conservative, also said he has always voted in favour of "pro-life" legislation.
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David Raymond Amos
Methinks it would be beneficial to all if Prime Minister Trudeau The Younger would finally evolve enough to make sense and act ethically N'esy Pas?
Grant Bryck
It's interesting how JT feels his views can evolve, but anyone else that had contrary beliefs to his fundamemtal ideology, are forever branded right wing, fac ist, homophobic, basically anti correct.
Wayne
Gerber
Reply to @Grant
Bryck: Well he lives up to the "we know what's best for all" dictatorial
leanings of lib/left; democracy be damned.
David Raymond Amos
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Reply to @Wayne Gerber: The leader of Canada's self described "Natural Governing Party" must have been an interesting teacher about ethics to his former students in pre-law to say the least. However Methinks he made a Freudian slip when he chose the word evolve to explain his reasoning N'esy Pas?
I have no respect for Bonokoski and his cohorts but I must give the devil his due because he did make a good point about Trudeau evolving a while back. His words no doubt made an impression in Trudeau's mind
BONOKOSKI: Evolving resume of PM Justin Trudeau
Mark Bonokoski
Toronto SUN Published: February 10, 2018
"During his pre-amble to his student-based audience in Chicago, however, what struck me was Justin Trudeau stating that, as a teacher, he taught pre-law to Grade 12 students.
This was news to me.
At that point in his life, and seemingly even since, Trudeau had not studied law, yet here he was telling a young audience of future political staffers that he taught pre-law to students about to graduate from high school in British Columbia.
On what pretext, and on what authority? His father was a lawyer, yes, but does genetics pass down the education gene and allow one to teach pre-law with no credentials?"
Reply to @Wayne Gerber: The leader of Canada's self described "Natural Governing Party" must have been an interesting teacher about ethics to his former students in pre-law to say the least. However Methinks he made a Freudian slip when he chose the word evolve to explain his reasoning N'esy Pas?
I have no respect for Bonokoski and his cohorts but I must give the devil his due because he did make a good point about Trudeau evolving a while back. His words no doubt made an impression in Trudeau's mind
BONOKOSKI: Evolving resume of PM Justin Trudeau
Mark Bonokoski
Toronto SUN Published: February 10, 2018
"During his pre-amble to his student-based audience in Chicago, however, what struck me was Justin Trudeau stating that, as a teacher, he taught pre-law to Grade 12 students.
This was news to me.
At that point in his life, and seemingly even since, Trudeau had not studied law, yet here he was telling a young audience of future political staffers that he taught pre-law to students about to graduate from high school in British Columbia.
On what pretext, and on what authority? His father was a lawyer, yes, but does genetics pass down the education gene and allow one to teach pre-law with no credentials?"
Linda Taylor
well let's see if this post stays. Seems to me he is pushing abortion way too much here and around the world and why is it such a big deal to him. He said not long ago he is not for abortion but believes in the right to choose. And yet he keeps bringing in millions of refugees and illegals that don't believe in abortion or birth control. So think about that, what is his agenda for our country and it's not for us. He lies and makes promises he doesn't keep and still people go after scheer. Given 4 years of trudeau shows he is more non canadian than scheer.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Linda
Taylor: Methinks most Canadians are clued in enough to not believe any
politician's promises What they need to figure out is to stop voting for
their favourite team and pick the person on their ballot that they
think best represents them. Then let the political cards fall where they
may. We are supposed to be electing MPs not party leaders N'esy Pas?
Lorne Newell
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: I find that a very altruistic attitude in the age of party politics. With 338 representatives getting a consensuses becomes a daunting task. In my opinion you need to vote for the party platform that fits and a good leader. The most promising leader at present is Jagmeet and the platform that i like is CPP. My second choice is CPP and Scheer. If there is someone out there that can point me to a credible paper in regards to the CO2 hypothesis having a large impact I would be ever grateful. I have been looking for one neigh on 5 years to no avail. At the present, common sense and logic prevails and the papers I have seen, for the most part, prove the hypothesis wrong
Laine Smith
Trudeau:
I'm here to defend the small, the weak, those with no voice...
Also Trudeau:
You guys kill all the babies you want!
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Laine Smith: Well put
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ndp-jagmeet-singh-green-party-abortion-social-media-1.5309861
Singh brushes off Green complaint about abortion-related social media posts
The Canadian Press · Posted: Oct 04, 2019 4:55 PM ET
NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh brings coffee to striking provincial public service workers in Saskatoon, on Friday, October 4, 2019. (Paul Chiasson/The Canadian Press)
NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh is brushing
aside demands from the Greens that his party apologize for social-media
posts that Green candidates hold anti-abortion positions.
On Monday, a report from PressProgress — a project of the Broadbent Institute, which is named for former NDP leader Ed Broadbent — raised questions about whether Green candidates, if elected, would quash any effort to reopen the abortion debate.
In a statement Friday morning, the Greens said the party filed a complaint with the Broadbent Institute and demanded an apology from the New Democrats after that party's candidates circulated the report on social media.
During a campaign stop in a Saskatoon riding the NDP want to hold on election day, Singh dismissed the demand, saying there are Green candidates that don't have a clear position on a woman's right to access abortion services.
Green Leader Elizabeth May has said she couldn't force Green MPs to vote a particular way on legislation or bills — comments Singh pointed to, adding for emphasis that May "went on to say,
'Frankly, I think that's a good thing.' Those were her words. She can't Photoshop those words. Those are real words that she said," Singh said.
"I know the Green party likes to Photoshop things, but they can't change what they said and the reality is, the fact is, there are candidates running for the Greens that do not have a clear position on a woman's right to choose," he said. (The two digs about editing photos are references to an image of May at a market the Greens modified to make it look as though she was holding a party-branded reusable cup when she was actually holding a compostable single-use cup.)
"With New Democrats, there is no question. All New Democrats firmly believe in the right to choose and if anyone did not, they would not be a New Democrat anymore," Singh said.
The New Democrats have sought to raise questions about abortion access as a wedge issue between themselves and the Greens. May has become publicly frustrated with Singh, saying on Wednesday she was losing patience with his attacks.
The NDP's focus on the Greens started just before the official launch of the campaign in September, when May told the CBC she would not whip votes or try to prevent anyone in her caucus from putting forward legislation on abortion, despite personally believing women should have access to safe and legal abortions.
The party later clarified that all candidates running under the Green banner are required to support abortion rights.
PressProgress's report on Monday said that more than half the 35 Green candidates who responded to its questionnaire believed Green MPs should have free votes on abortion issues and decide on their personal beliefs.
In
a statement, the Green party said it filed a complaint with a
self-regulatory news media body, although PressProgress is not a member
of the National NewsMedia Council.
The party also said it has asked PressProgress to issue a correction — although the party didn't specify what in the article was incorrect other than claiming the article referred to candidates as "anti-choice" — and the NDP to issue an apology.
"This is a malicious attack that demonstrates a complete lack of journalistic integrity," Green spokesman John Chenery said in the statement.
"It is disappointing to see PressProgress acting not as a legitimate journalism outlet, but as the propaganda wing of a political party. That NDP candidates would spread these lies is disillusioning."
Singh quickly shrugged off the issue when asked about it Friday, even though it riled the partisan supporters around him, one of whom heckled a journalist by saying, "Greens are mean." After the event, party staffers noted that Liberal Melanie Joly also tweeted about the PressProgress report, but the Greens are only going after New Democrats.
The issue was one of several that Singh tackled during a stop in Saskatchewan, the historical home of the NDP.
Pitching his pharmacare program — a cornerstone of the party's campaign platform — Singh said Canadians would have access to the system by 2020 if the New Democrats are elected to govern on Oct. 21.
Singh is scheduled to make a similar pitch to supporters when he visits Thunder Bay, Ont., on Friday evening.
The NDP are looking to recapture the riding the party lost in 2015 to Liberal Patty Hajdu, the federal labour minister.
CBC's Journalistic Standards and PracticesOn Monday, a report from PressProgress — a project of the Broadbent Institute, which is named for former NDP leader Ed Broadbent — raised questions about whether Green candidates, if elected, would quash any effort to reopen the abortion debate.
In a statement Friday morning, the Greens said the party filed a complaint with the Broadbent Institute and demanded an apology from the New Democrats after that party's candidates circulated the report on social media.
During a campaign stop in a Saskatoon riding the NDP want to hold on election day, Singh dismissed the demand, saying there are Green candidates that don't have a clear position on a woman's right to access abortion services.
Green Leader Elizabeth May has said she couldn't force Green MPs to vote a particular way on legislation or bills — comments Singh pointed to, adding for emphasis that May "went on to say,
'Frankly, I think that's a good thing.' Those were her words. She can't Photoshop those words. Those are real words that she said," Singh said.
"I know the Green party likes to Photoshop things, but they can't change what they said and the reality is, the fact is, there are candidates running for the Greens that do not have a clear position on a woman's right to choose," he said. (The two digs about editing photos are references to an image of May at a market the Greens modified to make it look as though she was holding a party-branded reusable cup when she was actually holding a compostable single-use cup.)
"With New Democrats, there is no question. All New Democrats firmly believe in the right to choose and if anyone did not, they would not be a New Democrat anymore," Singh said.
The New Democrats have sought to raise questions about abortion access as a wedge issue between themselves and the Greens. May has become publicly frustrated with Singh, saying on Wednesday she was losing patience with his attacks.
The NDP's focus on the Greens started just before the official launch of the campaign in September, when May told the CBC she would not whip votes or try to prevent anyone in her caucus from putting forward legislation on abortion, despite personally believing women should have access to safe and legal abortions.
The party later clarified that all candidates running under the Green banner are required to support abortion rights.
PressProgress's report on Monday said that more than half the 35 Green candidates who responded to its questionnaire believed Green MPs should have free votes on abortion issues and decide on their personal beliefs.
The party also said it has asked PressProgress to issue a correction — although the party didn't specify what in the article was incorrect other than claiming the article referred to candidates as "anti-choice" — and the NDP to issue an apology.
"This is a malicious attack that demonstrates a complete lack of journalistic integrity," Green spokesman John Chenery said in the statement.
"It is disappointing to see PressProgress acting not as a legitimate journalism outlet, but as the propaganda wing of a political party. That NDP candidates would spread these lies is disillusioning."
Singh quickly shrugged off the issue when asked about it Friday, even though it riled the partisan supporters around him, one of whom heckled a journalist by saying, "Greens are mean." After the event, party staffers noted that Liberal Melanie Joly also tweeted about the PressProgress report, but the Greens are only going after New Democrats.
The issue was one of several that Singh tackled during a stop in Saskatchewan, the historical home of the NDP.
Pitching his pharmacare program — a cornerstone of the party's campaign platform — Singh said Canadians would have access to the system by 2020 if the New Democrats are elected to govern on Oct. 21.
Singh is scheduled to make a similar pitch to supporters when he visits Thunder Bay, Ont., on Friday evening.
The NDP are looking to recapture the riding the party lost in 2015 to Liberal Patty Hajdu, the federal labour minister.
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Toni Mcmahon
The Green Party would rather have a Candidate that is a Separatist than have a Candidate that is Pro Life.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @toni
mcmahon: It would not surprise me if your claim proved to be true. in
2007 I proved to May's political opponents byway of Hard Copy sent byway
of tracked mail that the sneaky lawyer who just did a hostile takeover
of the Green Party was no better than them before the lawyer MacKay
proved to her Nova Scotia was nowhere for that Yankee to play politics
Duncan Grant
I am pro-choice, but pro-lifers are not bad or evil people. This attack reflects badly on the NDP.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Duncan
Grant: Its nice to know that i am not evil. However what do you call an
abortion in the 3rd trimester if not evil?
Kris Blun
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: those are not performed in Canada with out a reason . Do some reading people might think what you say is fact
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Kris blun: I DID
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Kris blun: Perhaps you should show me the laws pertaining to abortion?
Brian Grantiin
Elizabeth May is all over the map on abortion . Jag Singh is crystal clear - his candidates must be pro choice
David MacKinnon
Reply to @brian grantiin:
Brian you are a man, why are you imposing your opinion on an issue you have no right to speak on
Brian you are a man, why are you imposing your opinion on an issue you have no right to speak on
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @David MacKinnon: Oh Yea? Go figure
http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/08/httpstwitter.html
http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/08/httpstwitter.html
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @David MacKinnon: If you are any sort of man I wonder what you would say if you wife came home and declared she had just aborted a child you had been looking forward to welcoming into this wonderful old world. Would you stay married merely because you think you don't have a right to an opinion because you are just a Father that never was?
Solomon Kane
Reply to @David Raymond Amos:
Here you are again. This is not a forum for you to continue you internet crusade against anyone who catches your eye.
Here you are again. This is not a forum for you to continue you internet crusade against anyone who catches your eye.
Michael MacKenzie
Singh is clearly worried about NDP being supplanted as 3rd party by Greens. So he and his party are becoming increasingly shrill and lowering tone of their campaign.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Michael
MacKenzie: Methinks the Bloc is rising again hence desperate lawyers do
desperate things when they are losing particularly when they are
politicians battling for fourth party status in the next parliament
N'esy Pas?
Garth Peter
That’s a good job for him, delivering coffee
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Garth Peter: I would trust him or Madame May with my coffee
Curtis Winter
Seems he's learnig how to creativity mis state the facts.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Curtis Winter: Methinks that is a political lawyer's main forte N'esy Pas?
Kris Blun
Why are they talking about abortion so much. Fear mongering at its best
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Kris blun: Methinks its the worst and many agree N'esy Pas?
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Kris blun: The cat must have your tongue now
David Pollock
Abortion debate?
What debate? Unless, and until the Constitution is re-written Women's
right to govern her own body will continue. Abortion was made legal in
Canada via a Charter Challenge, thus a re-write of the
Charter/Constitution is required to make it illegal again. Not to
mention that this issue is politically toxic with most people.
David Raymond Amos
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Reply to @David
Pollock: Trust that I am reopening the debate in Fundy Royal while I run
against the lawyer Rob Moore who is a national director of his church.
Rob Moore has known since 200 when I first ran against him that I can easily prove the courts are full of politically appointed crooked lawyers. More importantly what is the life of just one child worth? What kind of man would I be if I did not follow my conscience no matter what some not so wiseguy in court may claim.
Jonathan Lawrence
Singh and the NDP are right on this. May did say that, and in the absence of the whip, the Green parties Achilles heel, May would have no means to reign in an elected Green member who wishes to promote anti-abortion legislation. Singh has nothing to apologize for in this case.
David Raymond Amos
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Reply to @Jonathan
Lawrence: Methinks only mindless liberals and conservatives who call the
absence of a whip an Achilles heel N'esy Pas?
David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos @FloryGoncalves and 49 others
I am vowing to re-open abortion debate in Fundy Royal Trust that I will remind with the bible thumping lawyer Rob Moore of my lawsuit against Cardinal Bernard Law and 3 US Treasury Agents every chance I get
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/10/i-am-personally-pro-life-scheer-says.html
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/scheer-abortion-pro-life-1.5307415
https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1610134083790
Interview - Conservative Rob Moore
- 7 days ago
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The
former cabinet minister is running again in New Brunswick. Rob Moore
talks about how the Conservatives regain seats in Atlantic Canada.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/the-house-atlantic-canada-election-1.5300789
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/the-house-atlantic-canada-election-1.5300789
The path to government on Oct. 21 begins on East Coast
Liberals won all 32 seats in Atlantic Canada in 2015 - but this time there is a battle brewing in the region
· CBC News · Posted: Sep 28, 2019 4:00 AM ET
Justin Trudeau, Andrew Scheer, Jagmeet Singh, Elizabeth May (CBC News)
Vote-rich urban areas such as Ontario's 416/905 region and British Columbia's Lower Mainland tend to dominate campaign coverage, but there is also a battle brewing on Canada's East Coast.
The first sign of which party has the best chance of forming the next government on Oct. 21 will come from Atlantic Canada, where a surging red tide in 2015 saw Justin Trudeau's Liberals win all 32 seats, including the 10 in New Brunswick.
Conservative candidate Rob Moore said he believes his party is poised to make gains in 2019.
"The Liberals are not going to win all 32 seats this time, let's put it that way," said Moore, who is running in New Brunswick's Fundy Royal riding.
As one of three Harper-era MPs who are trying to win back seats lost in 2015 in neighbouring ridings across the southern part of the province, Moore says the path to power in Atlantic Canada is all about the economy.
"People are going to go where there's economic opportunity," he said in an interview with CBC Radio's The House at his campaign office in Quispamsis, N.B., about 15 kilometres northeast of Saint John.
"We have a government in Ottawa, the Liberal Trudeau government, that's standing in the way of economic growth and seems to have done everything possible to put a wet blanket over our New Brunswick economy, principally with the cancellation of Energy East and now with the carbon tax," Moore said.
In 2017, TransCanada abandoned plans to build the Energy East pipeline to carry heavy oil from Alberta to an export terminal in Saint John. The company cited new federal emissions standards in the regulatory review of the project.
But Moore's Conservatives aren't the only party hoping to change the colour of New Brunswick's electoral map this year.
Five of the six federal party leaders have visited the province during the campaign (Bloc Quebecois Leader Yves-François Blanchet is the exception).
Green Party Leader Elizabeth May is keen to build on the success of the provincial Green party, which won three seats in a New Brunswick provincial election earlier this year, including one in Fredericton held by provincial Green leader David Coon.
"I'm very proud of our platform. It provides solutions across the whole range of things that are on the minds of Canadians," May said Monday during a campaign stop in the provincial capital.
Jenica
Atwin, the party's candidate in Fredericton, said she hopes to be part
of a Green caucus in Ottawa that will hold the balance of power in a
minority government.
"The Greens aren't going to form government Oct. 21," she said. "We are hoping to hold enough seats that we can make a difference and hold whichever government is in power accountable on these key issues."
Green Party Leader Elizabeth May waves to supporters while campaigning by train through Nova Scotia, New Brunswick and Quebec this week. May is hoping to capitalize on the recent success of provincial Greens, especially in New Brunswick. (Chris Patry/ CBC)
But Atwin's got her work cut out for her in Fredericton, where Liberal incumbent Matt DeCourcey won almost half the vote in 2015.
"I think people understand just how important the choice is this time," he said from his campaign office in downtown Fredericton.
DeCourcey says the Liberal campaign platform is a "practical plan" to support the middle class, seniors and post-secondary students — a key demographic in a city with two universities.
But even he acknowledges a sense of apprehension or uncertainty among voters who feel like they just can't get ahead.
"I think people understand that, even in a time of uncertainty, they have a party and a government that is implementing programs and opportunities that can help them with the skills training and the opportunities to participate fully in community," he said.
Elsewhere in the province, Ginette Petitpas-Taylor, who was health minister at the time of dissolution, is seeking re-election in a Moncton-area riding, while longtime MP Dominic LeBlanc is running again in Beausejour, despite stepping back from his cabinet duties earlier this year to undergo treatment for cancer.
.Meanwhile, the NDP faces an uphill battle in New Brunswick.
Even before the campaign officially kicked off earlier this month, there were reports 14 former New Democrat candidates from the last provincial election had jumped ship to the Greens because they were unhappy with Jagmeet Singh's lack of focus on Atlantic Canada.
There was also a suggestion made by Jonathan Richardson, a former federal NDP executive member who also quit the party, that racism might be undermining support for Singh, who is Sikh.
NDP leader Jagmeet Singh, right, along with former NDP MP Yvon Godin, left, announce Acadie-Bathurst candidate Daniel Thériault during a campaign stop in Miramichi, N.B. on Monday, Sept. 23, 2019. (Andrew Vaughan/The Canadian Press)
The NDP, however, claimed five of the members alleged to have left for the Greens did no such thing.
Nevertheless, Singh faced criticism for not stepping foot in the province since he became NDP leader in 2017.
Singh addressed that during a campaign stop this week in the northern New Brunswick riding of Acadie-Bathurst, which Yvon Godin held for the NDP for 18 years. He apologized to party supporters.
"I'm sorry that I didn't get here earlier. I'm honoured to be here," Singh said. "It's a beautiful place."
This special edition of
The House from New Brunswick tackles the economy, cost of living,
immigration and Indigenous reconciliation. 46:04
Justin Trudeau, Andrew Scheer, Jagmeet Singh, Elizabeth May (CBC News)
Vote-rich urban areas such as Ontario's 416/905 region and British Columbia's Lower Mainland tend to dominate campaign coverage, but there is also a battle brewing on Canada's East Coast.
The first sign of which party has the best chance of forming the next government on Oct. 21 will come from Atlantic Canada, where a surging red tide in 2015 saw Justin Trudeau's Liberals win all 32 seats, including the 10 in New Brunswick.
Conservative candidate Rob Moore said he believes his party is poised to make gains in 2019.
"The Liberals are not going to win all 32 seats this time, let's put it that way," said Moore, who is running in New Brunswick's Fundy Royal riding.
As one of three Harper-era MPs who are trying to win back seats lost in 2015 in neighbouring ridings across the southern part of the province, Moore says the path to power in Atlantic Canada is all about the economy.
"People are going to go where there's economic opportunity," he said in an interview with CBC Radio's The House at his campaign office in Quispamsis, N.B., about 15 kilometres northeast of Saint John.
"We have a government in Ottawa, the Liberal Trudeau government, that's standing in the way of economic growth and seems to have done everything possible to put a wet blanket over our New Brunswick economy, principally with the cancellation of Energy East and now with the carbon tax," Moore said.
In 2017, TransCanada abandoned plans to build the Energy East pipeline to carry heavy oil from Alberta to an export terminal in Saint John. The company cited new federal emissions standards in the regulatory review of the project.
But Moore's Conservatives aren't the only party hoping to change the colour of New Brunswick's electoral map this year.
Five of the six federal party leaders have visited the province during the campaign (Bloc Quebecois Leader Yves-François Blanchet is the exception).
Greens aim to capitalize on provincial success
Green Party Leader Elizabeth May is keen to build on the success of the provincial Green party, which won three seats in a New Brunswick provincial election earlier this year, including one in Fredericton held by provincial Green leader David Coon.
"I'm very proud of our platform. It provides solutions across the whole range of things that are on the minds of Canadians," May said Monday during a campaign stop in the provincial capital.
"The Greens aren't going to form government Oct. 21," she said. "We are hoping to hold enough seats that we can make a difference and hold whichever government is in power accountable on these key issues."
Green Party Leader Elizabeth May waves to supporters while campaigning by train through Nova Scotia, New Brunswick and Quebec this week. May is hoping to capitalize on the recent success of provincial Greens, especially in New Brunswick. (Chris Patry/ CBC)
But Atwin's got her work cut out for her in Fredericton, where Liberal incumbent Matt DeCourcey won almost half the vote in 2015.
"I think people understand just how important the choice is this time," he said from his campaign office in downtown Fredericton.
DeCourcey says the Liberal campaign platform is a "practical plan" to support the middle class, seniors and post-secondary students — a key demographic in a city with two universities.
"I think people understand that, even in a time of uncertainty, they have a party and a government that is implementing programs and opportunities that can help them with the skills training and the opportunities to participate fully in community," he said.
Elsewhere in the province, Ginette Petitpas-Taylor, who was health minister at the time of dissolution, is seeking re-election in a Moncton-area riding, while longtime MP Dominic LeBlanc is running again in Beausejour, despite stepping back from his cabinet duties earlier this year to undergo treatment for cancer.
NDP's Singh 'sorry I didn't get here earlier'
.Meanwhile, the NDP faces an uphill battle in New Brunswick.
Even before the campaign officially kicked off earlier this month, there were reports 14 former New Democrat candidates from the last provincial election had jumped ship to the Greens because they were unhappy with Jagmeet Singh's lack of focus on Atlantic Canada.
There was also a suggestion made by Jonathan Richardson, a former federal NDP executive member who also quit the party, that racism might be undermining support for Singh, who is Sikh.
NDP leader Jagmeet Singh, right, along with former NDP MP Yvon Godin, left, announce Acadie-Bathurst candidate Daniel Thériault during a campaign stop in Miramichi, N.B. on Monday, Sept. 23, 2019. (Andrew Vaughan/The Canadian Press)
The NDP, however, claimed five of the members alleged to have left for the Greens did no such thing.
Nevertheless, Singh faced criticism for not stepping foot in the province since he became NDP leader in 2017.
Singh addressed that during a campaign stop this week in the northern New Brunswick riding of Acadie-Bathurst, which Yvon Godin held for the NDP for 18 years. He apologized to party supporters.
"I'm sorry that I didn't get here earlier. I'm honoured to be here," Singh said. "It's a beautiful place."
CBC News: The House
The path to votes in New Brunswick
46:04
https://www.country94.ca/2019/08/27/conservative-candidate-rob-moore-looks-to-retake-fundy-royal/
Conservative Candidate Rob Moore Looks To Retake Fundy Royal
Conservative candidate for Fundy Royal Rob Moore
(Photo Credit: Tamara Steele)
Rob Moore, a former M-P for the riding, says he’s hearing a lot of frustration when going door to door.
“People expected that when all 32 Atlantic seats went liberal that Atlantic Canada would be on the map and in fact it has been just the opposite, a lot of our issues are not going up to Ottawa,” said Moore.
Moore says one big issue he is hearing at the door is the demise of the Energy East project and a lack of a real voice for constituents.
“Energy East was cancelled under this government not to mention the business taxes that have hurt small businesses throughout the province, so there have been a lot of issues were we haven’t seen local MPs stand up for our province.,” stated Moore.
“I’ve heard as I go door to door that Justin Trudeau has got to go not only because of things like the SNC Lavalin scandal but their policies that are hurting us here in Atlantic Canada, in New Brunswick people can’t afford a carbon tax,” mentioned Moore.
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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2019 15:56:15 -0300
Subject: Re: Interview When we were talking my phone was telling me I
was talking to CBC not CHSJ When you refused to answer a simple
question we were done talking
To: "Steele, Tamara" <steele.tamara@radioabl.ca>
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From: "Steele, Tamara" <steele.tamara@radioabl.ca>
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 17:20:12 +0000
Subject: Interview
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Hi David,
I would like to arrange some time for a short interview on your candidacy.
Would you be available for a phone interview at 2:30 tomorrow afternoon?
It will take about 10 minutes.
Thank you,
Tamara
Tamara Steele
Reporter/Anchor/Producer
CHSJ News-Acadia Broadcasting
Saint John, NB
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/scheer-abortion-pro-life-1.5307415
'I am personally pro-life,' Scheer says, vowing not to re-open abortion debate
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David Raymond Amos
Methinks Mr Scheer knows that I have vowed to re-open abortion debate in Fundy Royal Trust that I will remind with the lawyer Rob Moore of my lawsuit in 2002 against Cardinal Bernard Law and 3 US Treasury Agents every chance I get N'esy Pas?
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: The Rob Moore and many other lawyers and cops received Hard Copy of this document before I began debating him for the Fundy Royal seat in the 38th Parliament. Anyone can check it out (page 134 in particular) to confirm what I state is true
https://www.scribd.com/doc/265620671/Cross-Border-Txt
Neil Austen
The worth of Conservative vows:
Harper vows before election, "I will never appoint Senators!"
After election, Harper appoints appoints 59 - that is FIFTY-NINE Senators in exchange for political favors.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Neil Austen:
Methinks the first Senator Harper appointed was easily the most
offensive to me and any other Proud Canadian with two clues between
their ears N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/cabinet-includes-defector-and-senator-to-be-1.627094
"Michael Fortier, an unelected party operative, is the new minister of public works and government services.
Even more surprising, Prime Minister Stephen Harper will appoint Fortier to the Senate.
Harper said Fortier will run for a House of Commons seat in "the next federal election" rather than seeking one before that in a by-election.
It is an odd decision for Harper, who campaigned on a promise of an elected Senate and spoke against the idea of unelected ministers."
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/cabinet-includes-defector-and-senator-to-be-1.627094
"Michael Fortier, an unelected party operative, is the new minister of public works and government services.
Even more surprising, Prime Minister Stephen Harper will appoint Fortier to the Senate.
Harper said Fortier will run for a House of Commons seat in "the next federal election" rather than seeking one before that in a by-election.
It is an odd decision for Harper, who campaigned on a promise of an elected Senate and spoke against the idea of unelected ministers."
Douglas Ron
The fact that Canada has no abortion law is bothersome. Regardless of what limitations are applied, we should have something bur we'll never get it if politicians run from the topic like a plague. Canada is one of only four countries in the world that don't have a law, and the company is not one known to champion human rights. They are: China, Vietnam and North Korea
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Douglas Ron: I Wholeheartedly Agree Sir
Trust that I have been raising a lot of Hell about that simple fact
Trust that I have been raising a lot of Hell about that simple fact
Shep Ersisted
Reply to @Douglas Ron: Which means in Canada it is up to women and their healthcare providers (who are also obliged to meet professional codes of conduct) to make circumstance-specific healthcare decisions. I guess you must not trust Canadian women and their healthcare providers then.
Jennifer
Pugsley
Reply to @Douglas
Ron: Canada DOES have an abortion law actually. All abortions must be
performed by licensed physicians. Anyone else performing abortions is
subject to arrest, conviction and lengthy imprisonment.
Jennifer
Pugsley
Reply to @David
Raymond Amos: or, you could read the Criminal Code rather than fall for
anti choice propaganda. Also, you could leave your opinions and
individual beliefs out of it and relegate the particulars of individual
health care to the capable, highly trained hands of physicians and their
patients.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Jennifer
Pugsley: Please show me the laws pertaining to abortion. I know what I
and many other Canadians call an abortion within the 3rd trimester.
"Highly trained physicians" are NOT law enforcement officials.
Trust that I know the Canadian Criminal Code very well. Why else would I sue the Queen while running for a seat in the 42nd Parliament against the former Cabinet Minister Rob Moore who is also a lawyer and national director of his church?
Trust that I know the Canadian Criminal Code very well. Why else would I sue the Queen while running for a seat in the 42nd Parliament against the former Cabinet Minister Rob Moore who is also a lawyer and national director of his church?
Dan Stevenson
God forbid someone has their own opinion and values.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Dan Stevenson: "Speaking to reporters in New Brunswick, Scheer, a practising Catholic, said that while he opposes abortion, a government led by him wouldn't enact any government legislation to ban the procedure or support the efforts of any Conservative backbench MP to limit the practice."
Methinks while Mr Scheer is in NB his lawyer buddy Rob Moore a national director of his church tell his leader why I sued Cardinal Bernard Francis Law in 2002 N'esy Pas?
Solomon Kane
Reply to @David Raymond Amos:
Are you on it again? Don't you get it? No one agrees or cares. N'esy Pas?
Don Cheer
Reply to @Dan Stevenson:
I am a pro choice Catholic and have no problems saying my personal and religious beliefs are, I would never be ashamed of my religious beliefs and hide them for personal gain like Sheer has done.
Are you on it again? Don't you get it? No one agrees or cares. N'esy Pas?
Don Cheer
Reply to @Dan Stevenson:
I am a pro choice Catholic and have no problems saying my personal and religious beliefs are, I would never be ashamed of my religious beliefs and hide them for personal gain like Sheer has done.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Solomon Kane: No you don't get it. Just because you don't care it does follow that a fact is any less true. Whereas I am running in Fundy Royal against Rob Moore again I will publish your remark and point it out to him when we debate as i have the right to do.
Methinks you should agree with that simple fact N'esy Pas?
David Raymond Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: "Solomon Kane is a 2009 French-British-Czech dark fantasy action-adventure film"
Go Figure who is a liar and who is not after your checkout page 134
https://www.scribd.com/doc/265620671/Cross-Border-Txt
Solomon Kane
Reply to @David Raymond Amos:
You do know that you are an internet joke right? Search for your name and see what comes up.
David Raymond Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Solomon Kane: "Solomon Kane is a 2009 French-British-Czech dark fantasy action-adventure film"
Go Figure who is a liar and who is not after your checkout page 134
https://www.scribd.com/doc/265620671/Cross-Border-Txt
Go Figure who is a liar and who is not after your checkout page 134
https://www.scribd.com/doc/265620671/Cross-Border-Txt
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Solomon Kane: Trust that I am making quite a joke out of you right now
"Solomon Kane is a 2009 French-British-Czech dark fantasy action-adventure film"
Dayton Funk
How much clearer can the man be?
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Dayton Funk: Listen to what Trudeau just said on the same topic Methinks that was about as clear as mud N'esy Pas?
Mark Andrew
What more can he do? Sign his name in blood? Maybe now we can focus on something relevant.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Mark Andrew: Methinks Harper 2.0 could finally act with some semblance of integrity and step down as the leader of his questionable party ASAP before Trudeau The Younger wins another undeserved majority because of the daily bad news about a Yankee who spoke for the Queen for years because his party never properly vetted him N'esy Party?
Methinks folks should compare my blog to what exists in CBC today EH?
http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2016/12/the-crown-corp-cbc-obviously-still.html
Thursday, 29 December 2016
The Crown Corp CBC obviously still supports Rob Moore of Fundy Royal
For the public record I will post all the comments of mine that CBC blocked and all the ones they did not
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/rob-moore-conservative-1.3913897
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From: maxime.bernier@parl.gc.ca
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 13:32:30 +0000
Subject: Réponse automatique : A wicked war of words with CBC is going on right now about the Conservative critc Rob Moore whom I ran against twice in Fundy Royal
To: motomaniac333@gmail.com
Bonjour,
Veuillez prendre note que le bureau sera fermé jusqu'au 9 janvier 2017.
Nous en profitons pour vous souhaiter un joyeux Noël qui vous comblera de joie et de bonheur ainsi qu'une merveilleuse année 2017.
Joyeuses Fêtes à toutes et tous!
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From: "Gallant, Premier Brian (PO/CPM)"
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 13:32:46 +0000
Subject: RE: A wicked war of words with CBC is going on right now about the Conservative critc Rob Moore whom I ran against twice in Fundy Royal
To: David Amos
Thank you for writing to the Premier of New Brunswick. Please be advised that our office is closed and we will be returning on January 3, 2017. Your email will be reviewed and if a response is requested, it will be forthcoming.
Happy Holidays!
Nous vous remercions d’avoir communiqué avec le premier ministre du Nouveau-Brunswick. Soyez informé(e ) que notre bureau est fermé jusqu’au 3 janvier 2017. Votre courriel sera examiné et une réponse vous parviendra à sa demande.
Joyeuses Fêtes!
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From: Matt.DeCourcey@parl.gc.ca
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 13:32:31 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: A wicked war of words with CBC is going on right now about the Conservative critc Rob Moore whom I ran against twice in Fundy Royal
To: motomaniac333@gmail.com
Thank you for emailing the office of Matt DeCourcey, MP. Please be advised that the office is closed for the holiday season until January 3rd, at which time all emails will be reviewed. In the event of an emergency, please leave a voicemail at 506-452-4110. Thank you and Happy Holidays.
Merci d'avoir envoy? un courriel au bureau du d?put? Matt DeCourcey. Veuillez noter que le bureau est ferm? pour la p?riode des F?tes jusqu'au 3 janvier, quand tous les courriels seront examin?s. En cas d'urgence, veuillez laisser un message sur la boite vocal au 506-452-4110. Merci et Joyeuses F?tes.
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From: "Jensen, Jan"
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 13:32:28 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: A wicked war of words with CBC is going on right now about the Conservative critc Rob Moore whom I ran against twice in Fundy Royal
To: David Amos
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Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 13:32:47 +0000
Subject: Re: A wicked war of words with CBC is going on right now about the Conservative critc Rob Moore whom I ran against twice in Fundy Royal
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From: Dale Morgan
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 08:32:36 -0500
Subject: Re: A wicked war of words with CBC is going on right now about the Conservative critc Rob Moore whom I ran against twice in Fundy Royal
To: David Amos
I am on vacation returning December 28th. STaff Jeff JOHNSTON and Inspector Peter KIRCHBERGER will be available in my absence. I will have my cell if you need me.
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From: David Amos
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 09:32:26 -0400
Subject: A wicked war of words with CBC is going on right now about the Conservative critc Rob Moore whom I ran against twice in Fundy Royal
To: "David.Coon" , "randy.mckeen" , "blaine.higgs" , info , "ht.lacroix" , "Melanie.Joly" , "Alex.Johnston" , "sylvie.gadoury" , mcu , pm , premier , david , "david.eidt" , BrianThomasMacdonald , "rona.ambrose" , "maxime.bernier" , oldmaison , andre , Brian Ruhe , "brian.gallant" , "leanne.murray" , "martin.gaudet" , "Gilles.Moreau" , "Gilles.Blinn" , GillesLee
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CBC's work
Right now
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/rob-moore-conservative-1.3913897
and last year
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276
and My work right now
http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2016/12/the-crown-corp-cbc-obviously-still.html
and last year
http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2015/09/v-behaviorurldefaultvmlo.html
At least Roger TV acted ethically during the last election
Fundy Royal, New Brunswick Debate – Federal Elections 2015 - The Local
Campaign, Rogers TV
Rogers tv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cFOKT6TlSE
and so did Judge Richard Bell in Federal Court two months later
https://archive.org/details/BahHumbug
> http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2015/12/appeal-of-order-of-mr-prothonotary.html
>
> AFFIDAVIT OF THE PLAINTIFF, DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
>
> "I, David Raymond Amos of Apohaqui, New Brunswick MAKE OATH AND SAY:
>
> Hereto attached to this document as Exhibit A is a CD which is a
> true copy of an American police surveillance wiretap tape entitled
> 139."
>
>
> http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2015/12/federal-court-file-no-t-1557-15.html
>
> NOTICE OF OPPOSITION OF THE MOTION TO DISMISS
>
> Within Paragragh 32 the following is clearly stated
>
>
> 32 The Plaintiff states that it is not plain and obvious that his
> claim cannot succeed. It is only the Deputy Attorney General’s stated
> opinion without revealing all the facts to Federal Court. For instance
> while the Plaintiff was running in the election of the 42nd Parliament
> he sent many emails to many people containing a true copy of this
> Statement of his Claim. The CROWN should not deny that Peter MacKay
> the outgoing Attorney General, his Deputy Minister William Pentney and
> the local Justice Dept lawyer David Hansen received the emails found
> below during the time of the election of the 42nd Parliament. The
> entire text of the September 23rd, 2015 email (with some minor
> spelling errors corrected) is as follows:
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: David Amos
> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 09:35:01 -0400
> Subject: RE My complaint against the CROWN in Federal Court Attn David
> Hansen and Peter MacKay If you planning to submit a motion for a
> publication ban on my complaint trust that you dudes are way past too
> late
> To: David.Hansen@justice.gc.ca, "peter.mackay"
> , "peacock.kurt"
> , "mclaughlin.heather"
> , "david.akin"
> , "robert.frater"
> , paul.riley@ppsc-sppc.gc.ca,
> greg@gregdelbigio.com, joyce.dewitt-vanoosten@gov.bc.ca,
> joan.barrett@ontario.ca, jean-vincent.lacroix@gouv.qc.ca,
> peter.rogers@mcinnescooper.com, mfeder@mccarthy.ca, mjamal@osler.com
> Cc: David Amos , gopublic
> , Whistleblower
>
> https://scc-csc.lexum.com/scc-csc/scc-csc/en/item/14439/index.do
>
> http://www.scc-csc.gc.ca/WebDocuments-DocumentsWeb/35072/FM030_Respondent_Attorney-General-of-Canada-on-Behalf-of-the-United-States-of-America.pdf
>
> http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/10/re-glen-greenwald-and-brazilian.html
>
> I repeat what the Hell do I do with the Yankee wiretap tapes sell
> them on Ebay or listen to them and argue them with you dudes in
> Federal Court?
>
> Petey Baby loses all parliamentary privileges in less than a month but
> he still suposed to be an ethical officer of the Court CORRECT?
>
> Veritas Vincit
> David Raymond Amos
> 902 800 0369
>
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/rob-moore-conservative-1.3913897
A critic without a seat: Opposition parties forced to get creative on East Coast
Ex-Fundy Royal Tory MP Rob Moore has been hired by the federal party to be a critic for Atlantic Canada
Like any regular federal politician, former Conservative cabinet minister Rob Moore is a busy man these days.
Based in Saint John, he often travels to Ottawa to attend meetings of the Tory caucus and shadow cabinet. He keeps a close watch on issues affecting Atlantic Canadians, and he often meets with business people and conducts media interviews.
But Moore is no ordinary politician. In fact, he isn't even a member of Parliament, even though he's the Conservative critic for Atlantic Canada.
"The Atlantic region is hugely important to our party," said Moore.
"With the Liberals having a complete monopoly on the ridings … we don't have a lot of constructive debate going on. I think [the Liberals] just look at that big block of red and they say, 'We can take that region for granted."'
Based in Saint John, he often travels to Ottawa to attend meetings of the Tory caucus and shadow cabinet. He keeps a close watch on issues affecting Atlantic Canadians, and he often meets with business people and conducts media interviews.
But Moore is no ordinary politician. In fact, he isn't even a member of Parliament, even though he's the Conservative critic for Atlantic Canada.
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"The Atlantic region is hugely important to our party," said Moore.
"With the Liberals having a complete monopoly on the ridings … we don't have a lot of constructive debate going on. I think [the Liberals] just look at that big block of red and they say, 'We can take that region for granted."'
No opposition MPs in Atlantic Canada
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's Liberals won all 32 seats in Atlantic Canada in the 2015 election. (Jim Young/Reuters)
Moore, the former minister responsible for the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency,
now works full-time for the Conservative leader's office, doing his
part to keep the party connected with a region that has no opposition
MPs.
While it's true the Conservatives and New Democrats in Atlantic Canada were humbled by voters' wholesale rejection of the parties last year, both opposition parties are already rebuilding for the next election.
The NDP, for example, has appointed Quebec MP Guy Caron to be their Atlantic watchdog — his eastern Quebec riding is adjacent to northwestern New Brunswick.
"We're staying appraised of what is going on," said Caron.
While it's true the Conservatives and New Democrats in Atlantic Canada were humbled by voters' wholesale rejection of the parties last year, both opposition parties are already rebuilding for the next election.
The NDP, for example, has appointed Quebec MP Guy Caron to be their Atlantic watchdog — his eastern Quebec riding is adjacent to northwestern New Brunswick.
"We're staying appraised of what is going on," said Caron.
"The issues of my riding are issues of Atlantic Canada."
Caron said forestry, fisheries and employment insurance are among the common themes, and he's quick to add that he has an extra assistant in Ottawa to help him with the Atlantic file.
Critic assignments
As
for the Conservatives, they have devised a so-called buddy system that
has paired MPs from outside the region with Conservative riding
associations across Atlantic Canada.
"It's the first time we've ever done it," said interim Conservative leader Rona Ambrose, noting the party borrowed the idea from provincial Conservatives in Alberta and Manitoba.
"We really want to earn back the trust of Atlantic Canadians," Ambrose said.
"We think that they need a voice in opposition, and we want to be that voice ... With four Liberal premiers and 32 Liberal MPs, we worry that the region will be taken for granted."
Voice of opposition
Moore said that's already happening.
And he's quick to highlight the backlash that ensued in August when Trudeau would not commit to replacing a retiring Supreme Court of Canada justice from Nova Scotia with someone from the Atlantic region, in effect ignoring a 140-year-old constitutional convention.
- Trudeau nominates Newfoundlander Malcolm Rowe to Supreme Court
- MPs unanimously support regional representation for Supreme Court
- Atlantic Canada lawyers challenge Trudeau on changes to Supreme Court appointment process
"These guys had no intention of appointing someone from Atlantic Canada," Ambrose said, adding that Tory MPs from across the country rallied behind the cause.
"They got up [in the Commons] and they asked question after question to put pressure on the Liberals. In the end, we won ... What it showed was that it matters to have an
opposition."
Peter McKenna, a political science professor, however, said it's unlikely the Tories' objections registered with the governing Liberals.
"The Liberals have got a majority government," said McKenna, chairman of the political science department at the University of Prince Edward Island.
"They don't have to worry about what the Conservatives say right now. The push-back was internal, within the Liberal party ranks, and from the provincial premiers."
Dissent is rare
McKenna suggested each of the four Liberal premiers in the region also made their views known: "They ... said, 'No, that's not going to fly."'
McKenna said it's also worth noting the NDP and the Tories aren't the only ones struggling for traction on the East Coast.
With so many Liberals in the region, some backbenchers have virtually disappeared since the general election in October 2015, he said.
"The problem is that if you're not in the cabinet, it's difficult to get profile," McKenna said.
"For some of these rookie MPs, who came in on the coattails of Justin Trudeau, it's hard to carve out a name on the national stage."
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Commenting is now closed for this story.Ron MacCarthy
There are no opposition members because we didn't want any Harper Conservatives in the East!
We'll survive just fine without any too.
David Raymond Amos
@Ian Wayne Moore is just a shorter version of Harper
Hugh MacDonald
"The Atlantic region is hugely important to our party," said Moore.
Apparently the Conservative and NDP parties are not hugely important to the Atlantic Region voters since the Liberals won all 32 seats in the last election.
Apparently the Conservative and NDP parties are not hugely important to the Atlantic Region voters since the Liberals won all 32 seats in the last election.
Arved Sandstrom
@Hugh MacDonald - in
Atlantic Canada the NDP have had credibility at the provincial level.
Few would vote NDP in a federal election because there would be no
percentage in doing that. Provincially and at a federal level the
Atlantic provinces flip flop Cons/PCs and Liberals - we are the ultimate
swing voters. Since we figure little in national politics or at federal
level governmental decisions, our party allegiances are slight.
David Raymond Amos
@Arved Sandstrom Did
you forget the Independents like Mean Old Me? Sometimes one of us gets
elected when folks get really upset.
BTW I can't count how many times sneaky little NDP/socialiist people have tried to have me arrested
BTW I can't count how many times sneaky little NDP/socialiist people have tried to have me arrested
Ellis Purdue
Funny how we can hand over billions and billions to the UN under the guise of fighting 3rd world climate change, but areas in the Maritimes and BC are still pumping millions of litres of raw sewage into the ocean everyday. Tonnes of human waste, mixed with prescription medication, cleaning chemicals etc... How disgusting, unhealthy and planet killing is this practice? - Time to invest in Canada meeting a minimum standard of pollution control, this should be first priority over funding the Guam green energy program.
David Raymond Amos
@Ellis Purdue What you are pointing at is my greatest concern for the well being of all our children.
Things like this are being largely ignored while the media takes of politics and more taxes because of "Climate Change"
News such as this should set off all the alarm bells a whitsles
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/dead-herring-digby-county-investigation-1.3898021
Things like this are being largely ignored while the media takes of politics and more taxes because of "Climate Change"
News such as this should set off all the alarm bells a whitsles
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/dead-herring-digby-county-investigation-1.3898021
David Raymond Amos
@Ellis Purdue This was from the CBC "News" just yesterday
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/nova-scotia-dead-herring-lobsters-starfish-mystery-1.3914056
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/nova-scotia-dead-herring-lobsters-starfish-mystery-1.3914056
Chris Hansen
The peoples state media loves all of the low information voters (Liberals) making comments on Conservative articles. Fuuny how we often can't comment on things the actual PM is doing. Its almost as if CBC has an agenda.
Dave MacDonald
@Chris Hansen
I can't believe anyone actually thumbed yuo down.
I can't believe anyone actually thumbed yuo down.
Arved Sandstrom
@Chris Hansen - "low
information"? Are you seriously suggesting that card-carrying
Conservatives and PCs actually are better informed than card carrying
Liberals? I say "card-carrying" to remind you of the fact that about 1%
of Canadians actually care about parties to the extent that they know
anything about a local riding organization, maybe 25% of Canadians have
some biases (strong or mild) towards one party or another, and the rest
don't care. Hmmm, come to think of it, about half of all potential
voters don't.
I suggest to you, my friend, that well over 90 percent of all potential voters who may lean Conservative couldn't care less about news period. They are rather more interested in sports and entertainment on TV. To the extent that that includes US right-wing talk show hosts, yes, there is some pseudo-information.
"People's state media"? LOL. You're kidding, right? Under every government since the CBC was created the CBC has clearly dissed all administrations, and reported on all administrations. You clearly haven't followed it - I have since the 1960's. Dream on, dude.
I suggest to you, my friend, that well over 90 percent of all potential voters who may lean Conservative couldn't care less about news period. They are rather more interested in sports and entertainment on TV. To the extent that that includes US right-wing talk show hosts, yes, there is some pseudo-information.
"People's state media"? LOL. You're kidding, right? Under every government since the CBC was created the CBC has clearly dissed all administrations, and reported on all administrations. You clearly haven't followed it - I have since the 1960's. Dream on, dude.
David Raymond Amos
@Chris Hansen Perhaps you should try Googling CBC Fundy Royal
then Fundy Royal Debate
Who was CBC protecting then?
then Fundy Royal Debate
Who was CBC protecting then?
Mike Archibald
@Chris Hansen
'bias' is not 'an agenda'. But there have been no lack of articles on
things the pm has been doing which commenting was allowed. Commenting
itself is a weird wild thing with CBC, when even the national post and
globe and mail can do it better than cbc, then that doesn't say much
about an organization supposedly the 'national' broadcaster which
supposedly wants to hear from the population. Anybody that doesn't think
cbc has a bias, should go listen to "the Current' from about a month
ago when the flagship show interviewed Trudeau, and it was such an
embarassing softball extravaganza that dozens of usually low key
supporters came out of the woodwork to criticize the show.
But the insults are really unwarranted, if you want to criticize cbc, go to it, but dragging in a whole section of the electorate really doesn't make your comment stand out.
But the insults are really unwarranted, if you want to criticize cbc, go to it, but dragging in a whole section of the electorate really doesn't make your comment stand out.
David Raymond Amos
@Mike Archibald Howcome you can say stuff against your buddies in CBC?
Kevin Bell
"The Atlantic region is hugely important to our party," said Moore.
LOL.
David Raymond Amos
@Kevin Bell LMAO
Ed Jackson
The single best way for the NDP and the Cons to get traction in the Maritimes is to let Trudeau's plan run it's course. Extra taxes, more regulation on industry, health cuts, loss of international competitiveness and watching billions of tax dollars flow to every warm and fuzzy global initiative possible while bypassing Canadian regions in need.... this will make the opposition look like a much better option.
Kevin Bell
@Ed Jackson
Excellent post. You have hit almost all of the major Con talking points in one paragraph! Although most of the talking points are not based on truth but on rhetoric...
Excellent post. You have hit almost all of the major Con talking points in one paragraph! Although most of the talking points are not based on truth but on rhetoric...
Charles A. Brown
@Kevin Bell
Is it the "truth" to say that increases to our CPP contributions are not "really" enhancements but actually just a LPC money grab??? Yep...
How about the reversal of the CPC plans to reduce E.I. premiums that would have kept more money in peoples pockets? Nothing but a re-run of Martin's devious hidden tax policy....
The LPC supporters are such a low information electorate that EVERYTHING needs to be explained in detail...
Is it the "truth" to say that increases to our CPP contributions are not "really" enhancements but actually just a LPC money grab??? Yep...
How about the reversal of the CPC plans to reduce E.I. premiums that would have kept more money in peoples pockets? Nothing but a re-run of Martin's devious hidden tax policy....
The LPC supporters are such a low information electorate that EVERYTHING needs to be explained in detail...
Arved Sandstrom
@Ed Jackson - those
are nice thoughts, Ed, but JT cannot really make things worse in the
Atlantic provinces than they are now. The structural problems here are
not ones that can be solved by governments, and JT has no better chance
than Harper or Martin or Chretien or Mulroney. Few of the Atlantic
Canadian premiers have ever done well either.
The state of the Atlantic Canadian economy has nothing to do with the willingness of locals to work or produce or contribute. We are not welfare types, never have been. Except we are in something of a glacial-speed economic collapse: only 5% of the workforce can fish or log or farm or mine, we can hardly be better than anyone else at IT, tourism only takes you so far, and name something we can manufacture that can't be manufactured cheaper somewhere else.
At this stage of the game nobody in Atlantic Canada would believe the Cons. Just the same way we don't believe the Liberals or NDP.
The state of the Atlantic Canadian economy has nothing to do with the willingness of locals to work or produce or contribute. We are not welfare types, never have been. Except we are in something of a glacial-speed economic collapse: only 5% of the workforce can fish or log or farm or mine, we can hardly be better than anyone else at IT, tourism only takes you so far, and name something we can manufacture that can't be manufactured cheaper somewhere else.
At this stage of the game nobody in Atlantic Canada would believe the Cons. Just the same way we don't believe the Liberals or NDP.
Mike Archibald
@Arved Sandstrom
That's true of any government. Its well known that in Canada people
don't vote 'for' candidates but rather 'against' them. Last election
saw an upswing of young voters and ndp'ers who may have switched, and I
suspect its true that they won't bother showing up at the next election,
unless the conservatives get a Trump of their own, and once again
voters will show to vote against a candidate.
David Raymond Amos
@David Raymond Amos
Well now that CBC is blocking me AGAIN I will quit for the evening.
Trust that I will email blog and tweet about my distain about its
obvious political malice.
In closing I must ask the obvious question Did CBC really not expect me to comment against their praise of the lawyer I ran against twice in Fundy Royal?
In closing I must ask the obvious question Did CBC really not expect me to comment against their praise of the lawyer I ran against twice in Fundy Royal?
David Raymond Amos
@David Raymond Amos FYI I created the blog I promised and have been Tweeting about it as well to YOUR Bosses
David Peters
@Kevin Bell
Is the LPC fundraising scandal a talking point as well?
http://www.pressreader.com/canada/the-globe-and-mail-ottawaquebec-edition/20161222/281496455938174
Is the LPC fundraising scandal a talking point as well?
http://www.pressreader.com/canada/the-globe-and-mail-ottawaquebec-edition/20161222/281496455938174
Eric Earls
I wonder if the Maritimes realized they were voting for a "progressive" agenda, that would see the UN, foreign countries and foreign citizens be given "investment" priority over the needs of the Canadian east coast citizens.
Kevin Bell
@Eric Earls
I thought it was the Albertans that were neglected? Jeesh, get your stories straight. Pick a downtrodden repressed area of the country and run with it...
I thought it was the Albertans that were neglected? Jeesh, get your stories straight. Pick a downtrodden repressed area of the country and run with it...
Bert Van
@Eric Earls You mean
like to last government that flooded the country with foreign workers
and sold citizenship to the highest bidder?
David Raymond Amos
@Eric Earls In a word NOPE
In case ya didn't know the Maritimers voted Harper and all his cohorts out You do remember him don't ya? Harper was the dude who called us defeatists in 2003 EH?
In case ya didn't know the Maritimers voted Harper and all his cohorts out You do remember him don't ya? Harper was the dude who called us defeatists in 2003 EH?
Mike Archibald
@Eric Earls At this
point I'm not convinced anybody expects much of anything from the
federal government. Trudeau is 'almost' as bad, but thats still not 'as
bad'. And at the very least, we may still get legalized pot out of
it, which makes a lot of things at least 'seem' less bad!
David Raymond Amos
@Mike Archibald Not funny Lots of us don't smoke dope Mikey Hence we see things through the red haze you kids support
Christopher Chafe
@David Raymond Amos Goes to show Atlantic Canadians can not handle the truth!
David Raymond Amos
@Christopher Chafe What do you think know of the folks in my neighourhood?
I am a PROUD Maritimer and my Clan's Motto is Veritas Vincit
I am a PROUD Maritimer and my Clan's Motto is Veritas Vincit
David Peters
@Eric Earls
Nope, they just voted for change...and this what they got. I bet if they had another vote today, it would be a very different outcome.
Nope, they just voted for change...and this what they got. I bet if they had another vote today, it would be a very different outcome.
Stanley Beemish
When the family can't find a job for the red headed stepchild they talk Rona into hiring him instead?
Arved Sandstrom
@Stanley Beemish - I
wouldn't be so cynical. The man was an MP, is still resident in Saint
John NB, he probably has good contacts and is a valuable resource. I'd
keep him around too.
David Raymond Amos
@Arved Sandstrom True
David Raymond Amos
@Arved Sandstrom Excuse my Faux Pas I meant to agree with Mr Beemish not you
Stanley Beemish
@Arved Sandstrom Was
an MP. The good people of Fundy Royal chose not to re-elect him,
valuable resource or not. It is obviously up to his replacement to
provide those contacts and resources. It's not like Mr. harper is all
that available lately...
Anthony Laface
Atlantic Canada thought that they would get a better shake with the Libs. How's that working out for you?
Dave MacDonald
@Anthony Laface
It will be interesting for sure to watch what happens.Maritimers felt singled out by Harper, but that really hasn't seemed to change much under Trudeau.
I see a growing sentiment across Canada that the Marimes is over funded now. Meanwhile, a very high percentage of Maritimers think "we get nothing but scraps".
There is no satisfying both sides. But I suspect Trudeau will soon become a villain, just like Harper was.
It will be interesting for sure to watch what happens.Maritimers felt singled out by Harper, but that really hasn't seemed to change much under Trudeau.
I see a growing sentiment across Canada that the Marimes is over funded now. Meanwhile, a very high percentage of Maritimers think "we get nothing but scraps".
There is no satisfying both sides. But I suspect Trudeau will soon become a villain, just like Harper was.
Arved Sandstrom
@Ray
Thomas - to be exact, what Harper actually said in 2002 was "There is a
dependence in the region that breeds a culture of defeatism". A bit
more harsh even.
Actually it is hard to argue. If you were actually from Atlantic Canada you would not believe it, unless you were from the small percentage of us that actually is lazy. Just like the small percentage of lazy people anywhere.
I think Harper meant well, but as an Ontario type that later moved to AB he would have done well not to stereotype east coast Canadians.
Actually it is hard to argue. If you were actually from Atlantic Canada you would not believe it, unless you were from the small percentage of us that actually is lazy. Just like the small percentage of lazy people anywhere.
I think Harper meant well, but as an Ontario type that later moved to AB he would have done well not to stereotype east coast Canadians.
Mike Archibald
@Anthony Laface An interesting thread from a lousy comment, although I can't follow what most of the argument is about. The fact is that the country is more than the provinces. The west has money because it has investments in resources and access to affluent markets. Lets not pretend there is something intrinsically wonderful about Alberta. You certainly don't have one party government for decades and get that.
So 'per capita' arguments mean nothing with a largely mobile population. The fact is that the federal government is largely ontario and quebec, although lets not forget the national energy board is in Calgary and they decide energy projects even on the east coast.
The maritimes are dirt poor. Anybody living in the east who has lived further west knows how bad it is. If the feds were actually interested in getting provinces off equalization, then would have set up federal departments in the east so at least there would be some money to build up industries. 'Infrastructure' money means nothing and people ought to know it. Sure, there is a nice highway to get you through nb, that sure as heck doesn't build the economy.
And there is culture of defeatism. At least in nb that comes from a single family owning most of the province, and even the federal government which supposedly has anti monopoly powers, couldn't care less. Even the feds don't go up against irvings, imagine being in a dirt poor province and trying to combat them.
But for all those championing the health care deal, economists seem to have a different view of the matter, might want to check that out.
David Raymond Amos
@Anthony Laface Did
you Conservative sorelosers bother to notice that even Alberta went NDP
and that every province east of Manitoba now has a Liebrano mandate?
Methinks it was not because the Red Coats are so great it was because Harper and his cronies were that bad. N'esy Pas?
Methinks it was not because the Red Coats are so great it was because Harper and his cronies were that bad. N'esy Pas?
Ian Masters
@Anthony Laface
"Atlantic Canada thought that they would get a better shake with the Libs. How's that working out for you?"
Night and day my friend! The days of being in the wilderness are over.
"Atlantic Canada thought that they would get a better shake with the Libs. How's that working out for you?"
Night and day my friend! The days of being in the wilderness are over.
Stanley Beemish
@Arved Sandstrom Hey,
I live in Alberta now, and trust me, lots do complain about each and
every social program you listed. Or at least the cost of paying for
them, despite the small individual cost.
David Raymond Amos
@Stanley Beemish Taxpayers should speak up but they often complain of the wrong things
Mike Archibald
@Stanley Beemish
"Lots" will complain about those darn sunny days of 25 degrees too, that
means pretty much nothing. Alberta has oil, yay for that. In return
they have a federal government that holds off the native land claims and
lets them do what they want with it. Meanwhile, a good percentage of
the province was never even born in Alberta.
The money albertans save on sales tax thanks to the oil ought to make any complainer keep their mouth shut, but thats not human nature. People tend to complain the more they have, not the less.
And its simple math. In nb the province pays for the first twenty years of a workers life, which is the most expensive, then those workers go out west, essentially they are trained for free. And many then retire back east, and thats the other main social cost.
New Brunswick gets about 1.5 billion in equalization, and if you do the math, I suspect the west owes the province more than that in educating its workforce and covering the healthcare of its retirees. And the very least it brings the number way down.
The money albertans save on sales tax thanks to the oil ought to make any complainer keep their mouth shut, but thats not human nature. People tend to complain the more they have, not the less.
And its simple math. In nb the province pays for the first twenty years of a workers life, which is the most expensive, then those workers go out west, essentially they are trained for free. And many then retire back east, and thats the other main social cost.
New Brunswick gets about 1.5 billion in equalization, and if you do the math, I suspect the west owes the province more than that in educating its workforce and covering the healthcare of its retirees. And the very least it brings the number way down.
Robert L. Brown
Caption should read " Still at the trough"
David Raymond Amos
@Robert L. Brown YUP
Rick Martin
the only thing atlantic Canada had going for it was resources now with coal mining banned and some offshore areas protected that limits our oil exploration all we have left is fishing and lumber industry till the government cuts down the quotas then we will have next to nothing
Mike Archibald
@Rick martin You might want to take a look at employment figures. Resource jobs have been decreasing for fifty years. Coal isn't banned, its just not economical. There are countries which have no resources but have more wealth than the maritimes. The hope with immigrants is that because we have failed so badly in training people with actual skills, the feds hope to get those trained in other countries. They learned that within Canada, not enough people in alberta, just wait for maritimers to show up. They are just expanding that to the international stage and need to look further afield after that fiasco a few years ago when mexicans went back home and told everybody what lousy working conditions existed in Canada.
David Raymond Amos
@Mike Archibald Explain coal in Minto then
Anne Bochan
Sorry
Rona. you and your former leader lost the trust of Atlantic Canada and
you are not going to get it back until all of you are gone and a new and
different group who have some feeling for people and not just
corporations forms and proves that they are not just the same wolves in
sheeps clothng.
Arved Sandstrom
@Anne Bochan - your sarcasm may go over a few heads.
David Raymond Amos
@Arved Sandstrom Wrong
Methinks the folks with two clues did not find it humourous tis all.
Methinks the folks with two clues did not find it humourous tis all.
Christopher Chafe
@Anne Bochan so how much money has flooded in the EI waste land of Canada since JT took over office?
Stanley Beemish
@Christopher Chafe You mean Alberta? I think it has been huuuuuuge.
@Christopher Chafe You mean Alberta? I think it has been huuuuuuge.
David Raymond Amos
@Stanley Beemish YUP folks in Alberta ain't complaining about EI these days N'esy Pas PM Trudeau "The Younger"???
David
Sampson
It
would be insulting to those who supported the older version of the
Conservative Party to use the moniker " Tory " when describing this
current version of the Western Canada Fundamentalist Reform Party. "
Tories" are " Progressive". This current version are merely a regional
right wing fringe group.
David Raymond Amos
@David
Sampson True I explained that to many people as I ran against this
aptly named "Reform" lawyer twice yet CBC will never admit that I did.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276
David Raymond Amos
@David Raymond Amos FYI The aptly named lawyer Rob Moore is yapping on CBC right now while CBC continues to block me
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/programs/informationmorningfredericton
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/programs/informationmorningfredericton
Alex Forbes
@David Sampson What's wrong with being right-wing? I would rather have more freedom than more government spending.
@Alex Forbes I agree
Although I have always ran as an Independent I have also readily admitted to the media and during many debates that I think like the PCs my forefathers supported.
However that Party has gone the way of the Doo Doo Bird no thanks to lawyers such as Rob Moore and Peter MacKay and their old boss whats his name?
Although I have always ran as an Independent I have also readily admitted to the media and during many debates that I think like the PCs my forefathers supported.
However that Party has gone the way of the Doo Doo Bird no thanks to lawyers such as Rob Moore and Peter MacKay and their old boss whats his name?
Mike Archibald
@David Sampson
Labels mean nothing anymore because they vary pretty much by who you
are talking to. For one thing, combining social issues with economic
issues makes it so murky as to be nonsensical.
There is virtually nobody out there who wants 'big government', they simply want government to do what it is supposed to do.
There is virtually nobody out there who wants 'big government', they simply want government to do what it is supposed to do.
In nb we had two party's who were fine with not funding abortions. That makes the liberals even more 'right wing' than the federal conservatives, who shut down people in their own party who even wanted to bring the subject up.
In nb we have liberal and conservative parties who have no problem making panhandling illegal, despite the fact two other provinces have verified the Supreme Court's claim that it is constitutionally protected free speech, and its legal in every other province. Again, thats more right wing on the liberal party than the federal conservatives.
On economic policies you have the liberals who don't want fracking because its dangerous, but who had no problem trying to sell a publicly owned utility-and you don't get any more 'right wing' than selling public assets.
All parties in the province have little trouble with the pipeline, they are all for wiping out the forests for Irvings benefit. The language has changed so much that 'left wing' is supposed to simply mean 'being nicer to minorities'.
New Brunswick usually splits its vote, but the southern ridings mostly came within strking distance of winning their seats, and if the carbon tax can be pinned on the feds rather than the province, then we can maybe see some changes next election.
David Raymond Amos
@Mike Archibald Oh My
My You ignore me but try hard to get last word EH? Perhaps folks to
should Google my name to see that I am ahead of you again N'esy Pas?
David Raymond Amos
@Mike Archibald How many comments of mine do ya think your CBC friends blocked this time?
Mario
Doucet
Atlantic
Canada gets what they deserve, no opposition MPs mean Junior has
complete control, just look at the health deal reached, Atlantic Canada
will loose millions and end up under funded and further in debt.
Meanwhile, Junior will throw away billions of your money on lost causes
and funding third world dictators.
Mike Archibald
@Mario
Doucet The details of the comment are not correct, but the politics
is. Politics 101 is that you don't do favours you don't have to. Back
when there were minority governments the idea was floated for a federal
'maritime party' to act much like the Bloc Quebecois. That way, the
region suddenly becomes more important, particularly during minority
governments.
The simply fact is that unless elections are very close, no party needs the maritimes, and so Trudeau knows as well as harper that he'll probably hold onto a few ridings even if he went around saying were were drunk idiots.
There are research instititutes in southern ontario which don't even produce anything but get more federal funding than most maritime provinces. There was a little acoa money for some cancer research, but I haven't seen much funding in any important area in the maritimes.
But of course voters don't 'get what they deserve' when you only have one vote and an electoral system that typically means that vote is wasted.
The simply fact is that unless elections are very close, no party needs the maritimes, and so Trudeau knows as well as harper that he'll probably hold onto a few ridings even if he went around saying were were drunk idiots.
There are research instititutes in southern ontario which don't even produce anything but get more federal funding than most maritime provinces. There was a little acoa money for some cancer research, but I haven't seen much funding in any important area in the maritimes.
But of course voters don't 'get what they deserve' when you only have one vote and an electoral system that typically means that vote is wasted.
David Raymond Amos
@Mike Archibald You talk the talk but how many times did you run for public office in the Maritimes?
David Herman
Excuse
me..did Ambrose actually use the word 'trust'?..that is just like a
quebecer using the word 'bi-lingual'=it doesn't make any sense=NO
validity to it.
Arved Sandstrom
@david herman - give
Rona some credit. She was muzzled under Harper and had to be a shill.
She may be expressing her true opinions and may be sincere. Since she
cannot be leader she has no reason to be coy.
David Raymond Amos
@david herman Now
thats funny. Doya think the Proud Quebecers Mindless Mr Mulcair and his
buddy Trudeau "The Younger" understood your pun?
4 moments from the TVA French-language leaders' debate
Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau presses Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer for his personal views on abortion and a woman's right to choose during the TVA French-language leaders debate Wednesday. 0:47
"Scheer didn't answer, but repeated his promise that a Conservative government led by him would not reopen these divisive debates."
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David Raymond Amos
What a difference a few days make at the circus N'esy Pas?
Marie Price
To all those who did not read any of the French media from Quebec, best to stop speculating on an assessment about the debate. The French media graded the leaders as follows: Blanchet an A-, Trudeau a B+, Singh a C+ and Harper a D. You may ask why. What Scheer does not understand is the cultural ethos of people in Quebec. Regardless of whether one is a hockey player, a conservative, a socialist, a liberal, a separatist - Quebec holds firm defending one of their own. While they can criticize one of their own, no one outside of Quebec can do so. Scheer was chastised by Blanchet for personal attacks against Trudeau. He actually asked Scheer to stop it. Awesome to hear this coming from one of Trudeau's fiercest opponents, a Quebec socialist separatist, Blanchet.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Marie
Price: Welcome to the Circus now watch a Proud Maritimer born and raised
in Canada's only bilingual province no thanks to Trudeau The Elder have
some fun with this malicious nonsense in debates that will never be
reported about.
Google "Fundy Royal Debate" to enjoy a little Deja Vu before Trudeau the Younger became out Prime Minister four very long years ago for a lot of old folks such as i
Google "Fundy Royal Debate" to enjoy a little Deja Vu before Trudeau the Younger became out Prime Minister four very long years ago for a lot of old folks such as i
James Symonds
Isn't the REAL question 'are Quebec's "values" Canadian "values" . . . . . for way, way too long NOT!!!!
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @James Symonds: Have they agreed with the Charter yet?
David Raymond Amos
Methinks I heard two Catholic politicians take opposites sides on a very important issue N'esy Pas?
Here is something for them to recall to ponder Anyone can at least check out page 134
https://www.scribd.com/doc/265620671/Cross-Border-Txt
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Go Figure
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/scheer-abortion-pro-life-1.5307415
'I am personally pro-life,' Scheer says, vowing not to re-open abortion debate
Douglas Ron
The fact that Canada has no abortion law is bothersome. Regardless of what limitations are applied, we should have something bur we'll never get it if politicians run from the topic like a plague. Canada is one of only four countries in the world that don't have a law, and the company is not one known to champion human rights. They are: China, Vietnam and North Korea
30 minutes ago
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Douglas Ron: I Wholeheartedly Agree Sir
Trust that I have been raising a lot of Hell about that simple fact
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/scheer-abortion-pro-life-1.5307415
'I am personally pro-life,' Scheer says, vowing not to re-open abortion debate
Douglas Ron
The fact that Canada has no abortion law is bothersome. Regardless of what limitations are applied, we should have something bur we'll never get it if politicians run from the topic like a plague. Canada is one of only four countries in the world that don't have a law, and the company is not one known to champion human rights. They are: China, Vietnam and North Korea
30 minutes ago
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Douglas Ron: I Wholeheartedly Agree Sir
Trust that I have been raising a lot of Hell about that simple fact
Steve Coy
Well as far as i'm concerned Trudeau was by far the most competent. Made more sense than the seppie Blanchette, Jagmeet and the American Scheer.
Mark Deckard
Reply to @steve coy:
Trudeau was talking over Scheer constantly. Is that how you win debates
in 2019? Very rude. As PM he should show more class.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @steve coy:
Methinks many folks would agree that the debate was a set up for the
benefit of two Quebeckers and they were given to English speakers to
roast N'esy Pas?
Mark
Deckard
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: If you think the TVA debate was a set up, wait until you see Monday's one.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Mark
Deckard: Methinks it gonna be a circus However if the lawyer Maxime
Bernier decides to finally act ethically after all these years then we
may see the change we have been seeking since I first ran against his
old boss Harper in 2004 N'esy Pas?
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Mark
Deckard: FYI My first debate that I was invited to in Fundy Royal during
this election is the following evening Trust that I will cause a little
circus as I always do.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Enjoy a little proof of the pudding that is recorded within the Library of Parliament Raising a Little Hell- Lively Debate Provokes Crowd
By Erin Hatfield Kings County Record June 22, 2004
"If you don't like what you got, why don't you change it? If your world is all screwed up, rearrange it."
The 1979 Trooper song Raise a Little Hell blared on the speakers at the 8th Hussars Sports Center Friday evening as people filed in to watch the Fundy candidates debate the issues. It was an accurate, if unofficial, theme song for the debate.
The crowd of over 200 spectators was dwarfed by the huge arena, but as they chose their seats, it was clear the battle lines were drawn. Supporters of Conservative candidate Rob Moore naturally took the blue chairs on the right of the rink floor while John Herron's Liberalswent left. There were splashes of orange, supporters of NDP Pat Hanratty, mixed throughout. Perhaps the loudest applause came from a row towards the back, where supporters of independent candidate David Amos sat.
"Staying true to party platforms for the most part, candidates responded to questions about the gun registry, same sex marriage, the exodus of young people from the Maritimes and regulated gas prices. Herron and Moore were clear competitors,constantly challenging each other on their answers and criticizing eachothers’ party leaders. Hanratty flew under the radar, giving short, concise responses to the questions while Amos provided some food for thought and a bit of comic relief with quirky answers. "I was raised with a gun," Amos said in response to the question of thenational gun registry. "Nobody's getting mine and I'm not paying 10 cents for it."
David Raymond Amos
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The Unconventional Candidate
David Amos Isn’t Campaigning For Your Vote, But….
By Gisele McKnight Kings County Record June 22, 2004
"FUNDY—He has a pack of cigarettes in his shirt pocket, a chain on his wallet, a beard at least a foot long, 60 motorcycles and a cell phone that rings to the tune of "Yankee Doodle."
Meet the latest addition to the Fundy ballot—David Amos.
The independent candidate lives in Milton, Massachusetts with his wife and two children, but his place of residence does not stop him from running for office in Canada.
One has only to be at least 18, a Canadian citizen and not be in jail to meet Elections Canada requirements.
When it came time to launch his political crusade, Amos chose his favourite place to do so—Fundy.
Amos, 52, is running for political office because of his dissatisfaction with politicians.
"I’ve become aware of much corruption involving our two countries," he said. "The only way to fix corruption is in the political forum."
"What he’s fighting for is the discussion of issues – tainted blood, the exploitation of the Maritimes’ gas and oil reserves and NAFTA, to name a few.
"The political issues in the Maritimes involve the three Fs – fishing, farming and forestry, but they forget foreign issues," he said. "I’m death on NAFTA, the back room deals and free trade. I say chuck it (NAFTA) out the window.
NAFTA is the North American Free Trade Agreement which allows an easier flow of goods between Canada, the United States and Mexico.
Amos disagrees with the idea that a vote for him is a wasted vote.
"There are no wasted votes," he said. "I want people like me, especially young people, to pay attention and exercise their right. Don’t necessarily vote for me, but vote."
David Raymond Amos
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Methinks in short
order these dudes are gonna have a little trouble arguing the lawyer
Bernier in his native lingo and it ain't Chiac N'esy Pas?
Rosemary Kennedy
Justin Trudeau and the Liberals. Need more cow bell.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Rosemary
Kennedy: Its funny that you can make a joke about Trudeau and its
published but when I make a serious statement it goes "Poof"
Rosemary Kennedy
Justin seems to wear his makeup pretty heavy. It does not seem to match his natural colour either. And what is with the cucumber down his pants?
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Rosemary Kennedy: Oh My My
Steve Coy
Reply to @Rosemary Kennedy: You choose the religious rightwing Murican Scheer. Need anybody say anymore.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @steve coy: Methinks I said a lot more N'esy Pas?
Nick Salva
Justin is a Catholic and like Scheer does not believe in abortion, but tolerates it. He sends money overseas for it, but if you check only Quebec has a comprehensive abortion system. The other provinces not so much. Pretty much every hospital in Quebec does them. The supreme court said it is a women's right. But Justin has never really enforced the ruling, some kind feminist.
Health is a provincial jurisdiction but The Federal government can force the provinces to have comprehensive abortion plans and services. And help pay for it if need be.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Nick Salva:
I vowed to re-open the abortion debate in Fundy Royal Trust that I will
remind the lawyer Rob Moore of my lawsuit against Cardinal Bernard Law
and 3 US Treasury Agents every chance I get
Jerome Humphery
Andrew thinks pollutions should be free? So JT wants to sell it?
Travis
Oberg
Reply to @Jerome Humphery: Charge for it yes.
Or did you miss the carbon tax debate the last couple years?
Or did you miss the carbon tax debate the last couple years?
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Travis
Oberg: Methinks a tax is just another tax no matter what the politicians
may claim it is for Trust that they are never gonna fix the problem no
matter what they say If they did they would have to put an end to the
tax N'esy Pas?
Mark Deckard
Today, Trudeau's cargo plane flew from Montreal to... Montreal!
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Mark Deckard: Its hard to magine the hypocrisy of it all
Mark Deckard
Greta: there is no planet B.
Trudeau: but there is a plane B.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Mark Deckard: Methinks many a true word is said in jest N'esy Pas?
Hank Wright
CBC is going to be defunded one day.
Guy Stone
Reply to @Hank Wright: we can only wish.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Hank Wright: Dream on
Lucinda Sanschagrin
SNC Lavalin engineers responsible for environmental assessment at abandoned Moss Mine in Gatineau Park should be fired. They continue to follow the agenda of NCC and fail to meet their professional obligations. As a result, people in the Pontiac region are not informed of intermittent heavy metal pollution to groundwater.
Rosemary Kennedy
Reply to @lucinda
sanschagrin: I had a Pontiac once. It was a station wagon. They call
them SUV's nowadays. It was OK. You could take it for a drive with the
whole gang and get tanked driving around until you passed out. Then the
back seat could lay down and you could sleep it off. Good times!
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Rosemary Kennedy: Methinks many would agree that you are not even remotely funny N'esy Pas?
Hank Wright
CBC we all see how blatant biased you are. Enjoy your bribe.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Hank Wright: Methinks they forgot to welcome us to the circus we have been paying with our tax funds N'esy Pas?
John Chevy
20% french in Canada, nuff said
Travis Oberg
Reply to @John chevy: So? 20% can make a huge difference when it comes to who forms government.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Travis Oberg:Methinks that is Oh So True particularly when they vote for the Bloc N'esy Pas?
Peter Baxter
See bee cee still refusing to tell people about the photo.......people who think these debates are a fair representation of the candidates should know about the photo of the fellow who resigned and then came back.......and who he was having diner with a week before the debates! Is burying news a form of f ak e ne ws?
Kirk Miller
Reply to @Peter
Baxter: yeah let's heat about that...we've all seen it other
places...did it not happen? If it did and it isnt reported
here...well...there it is
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Kirk Miller: Here is something to ponder Check out page 134
https://www.scribd.com/doc/265620671/Cross-Border-Txt
https://www.scribd.com/doc/265620671/Cross-Border-Txt
Paul Whittaker
the cons under Harper gave SNC the Atomic Energy of Canada Ltd with had 17 billion of tax money spent to build it, for free, plus another 15 million to help the company out. The grits are just as tied to SNC as the Tories.
Gale Smith
Reply to @Paul Whittaker:
Agreed. And the CPC changed legislation to benefit SNC in 2014 or 2015 ...federal prosecutors were working with SNC.
So hypocrisy for certain !
Agreed. And the CPC changed legislation to benefit SNC in 2014 or 2015 ...federal prosecutors were working with SNC.
So hypocrisy for certain !
Peter Baxter
Reply to @Paul
Whittaker: Spin spin and deflect! The concern it is not about SNC! It is
about Trudeau trying to force the Auditor General to interfere in a
court proceeding! The fact that the court proceeding had to do with SNC
is immaterial......the crime of concern is obstruction.......not
corporate bribery or corporate misbehaviour!
Richard Ahern
Reply to @Paul Whittaker: ok ya I remember that back when SNC was well run and honest.
Thanks for the memories.
Thanks for the memories.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Paul
Whittaker: Methinks everybody knows Harper got rid of Atomic Energy of
Canada Ltd ASAP right after everybody became aware that they had screwed
the Province of New Brunswick over the refurbishment of its Nuke Plant
and the Quebeckers gave up on the NB Power purchase and did not
refurbish their own nasty Nuke Plant N'esy Pas?
Jerome Humphery
Sheer just isn't up to Trudeaus degenerate standards.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Jerome Humphery: Methinks many would agree that Harper 2.0 is worse N'esy Pas?
'I am personally pro-life,' Scheer says, vowing not to re-open abortion debate
'As leader of this party it is my responsibility to ensure that we do not re-open this debate,' Scheer says
Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer said today he is personally opposed to abortion — but a government led by him would not move to restrict access to the procedure.
Speaking to reporters in New Brunswick, Scheer, a practising Catholic, said that while he opposes abortion, a government led by him wouldn't enact any government legislation to ban the procedure or support the efforts of any Conservative backbench MP to limit the practice.
His declaration comes a day after three of the major party leaders pressured Scheer in a French election debate to say publicly how he feels personally about abortion. Scheer ducked the question last night, saying only that the abortion debate in Canada is settled.
"My personal position has always been open and consistent. I am personally pro-life but I've also made the commitment that as leader of this party it is my responsibility to ensure that we do not re-open this debate, that we focus on issues that unite our party and unite Canadians," Scheer said Thursday at an announcement about tax credits for volunteer firefighters.
"And that's exactly what I'll do and that's why I'll vote against measures that attempt to re-open this debate."
Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer says he is personally pro-life, but reiterated that if elected he would not reopen the abortion debate. 0:30
Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau, who led the charge against Scheer's abortion stance in the debate, said today Scheer's reassurances aren't enough.
"I'm going to fight for everyone, and I think women can see that. Andrew Scheer will not be there to defend their rights and that's very important. It's very important to understand the type of leadership that the various leaders have to offer," said Trudeau, campaigning today in Montreal.
When asked about a 2011 article that described Trudeau as a Catholic who "is personally very opposed to abortion, but still believes nobody can tell a woman what she should do with her body," a Liberal Party spokesperson said Justin Trudeau is unquestionably "pro-choice."
NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh said Scheer should have come clean with voters when he had the chance on the debate stage.
"The fact that he said it today but he didn't say it during the debate, when asked about it directly, shows a lack of courage," Singh said at a press conference in Toronto.
Scheer has a long history of social conservatism
Scheer has long identified as a social conservative. In 2005, he spoke out against same-sex marriage in a speech in the House of Commons.
While Scheer has so far refused to march in any of the country's pride parades, he said recently that the debate on same-sex marriage in Canada is settled.
Rosemary Barton asks Conservative leader Andrew Scheer about how his views on LGBTQ rights have evolved. 2:10
Scheer also has said he supports equality among homosexual and heterosexual blood donors — current rules demand that men who have sex with men remain celibate for three months before they can donate.
The Conservative leader also has said he'd support a legislative ban on conversion therapy, a discredited pseudoscientific practice that attempts to turn gay people straight.
When running for the party's leadership in 2017, Scheer told the anti-abortion group RightNow that he would allow "freedom of conscience" for backbenchers.
"I think that's one of the things that makes the Conservative Party stronger, that we allow for a diversity of views on these issues within our own caucus and we don't tell anyone that they have to park their conscience or their faith at the door," he said, according to a transcript of the interview.
"I can assure you that I support the right to individual MPs to speak out and bring, introduce matters that are important to them, but our party policy is clear on that and I think in order to maintain unity of our caucus it's important that the prime minister respects that," he said.
Scheer has said he would allow individual Conservative MPs to introduce legislation they want to pursue, while affirming that he, as leader, would vote against legislation that seeks to limit abortion access.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/pollcast-tva-debate-1.5307776
The Pollcast: The winners and losers of the French-language debate
John Paul Tasker and Chris Hall join Éric Grenier to break down Wednesday's debate
CBC News · Posted: Oct 04, 2019 4:00 AM ET
Bloc Québécois Leader Yves-François Blanchet, Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer, moderator Pierre Bruneau, Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau and NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh participated in TVA's "Face-à-Face 2019" debate on Wednesday. (Joel Lemay/POOL/Agence QMI)
Wednesday night saw Justin Trudeau face off with his opponents on a debate stage for the first time in this election campaign — and it happened in the province that's home to some of Canada's most unpredictable voters.
Along with the Liberal leader, the French-language TVA debate featured Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer, NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh and Bloc Québécois Leader Yves-François Blanchet — and featured many fiery exchanges.
But will the debate move the dial on polls that have been remarkably static to date?
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Then, Elise von Scheel asks some listener questions — including a query about what impact a rising Bloc might have on the fortunes of the other parties in Quebec.
CBC News: The Pollcast
Dissecting the Quebec debate
To talk about the winners and losers of the TVA French language debate, Eric Grenier is joined by CBC colleagues Chris Hall and John Paul Tasker. Plus, Eric and Elise von Scheel answer your questions about the federal implications of a strong Bloc Québécois. 25:12
Listen to the full discussion above — or subscribe to the CBC Pollcast and listen to past episodes of the show.
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David Raymond Amos
Too Too Funny listening to these all knowing dudes
4 moments from the TVA French-language leaders' debate
Trudeau tried to paint his Conservative opponent as out of step with Quebec values
· CBC News ·
Bloc Québécois Leader Yves-François Blanchet , Conservative Party Leader Andrew Scheer, debate moderator Pierre Bruneau, Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau and NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh posed for a photo at the French-language debate that aired on TVA. (Joel Lemay/Agence QMI)
Four of the major party leaders sparred Wednesday night in a French-language debate that saw Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau try to paint his Conservative opponent as a man out of step with Quebec values.
Bloc Québécois Leader Yves-François Blanchet made an impassioned plea to Quebecers to send more separatist MPs to Ottawa to fight for the province's interests, while Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer urged voters to reject the Bloc's advances and elect Tories to make Trudeau a one-term prime minister.
NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh said he'd fight for "asymmetrical" federalism to ensure Quebec's uniqueness is better represented in the federation. He promised to help the province better integrate newcomers into the dominant French culture so as to protect the language's place in Canada.
The debate, hosted by TVA, the most watched network in Quebec, was billed as a "face-à-face" — a chance for the leaders to debate one another directly.
The topics were wide-ranging and covered everything from the state of Ottawa's finances, climate change, the Quebec secularism law, protections for arts and culture and the place of francophones in Canada.
Scheer 'doesn't share our values': Trudeau
Trudeau started the night on the offensive, trying to pin Scheer down on issues like same-sex marriage and abortion.
He repeatedly asked the Conservative leader to state clearly what his personal feelings are on these social issues.
"Answer me this — do you believe women have the right to choose? Yes or no," Trudeau said.
Trudeau and Scheer spar on abortion in TVA debate (Courtesy of TVA)
Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau presses Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer for his personal views on abortion and a woman's right to choose during the TVA French-language leaders debate Wednesday. 0:47
Scheer didn't answer, but repeated his promise that a Conservative government led by him would not reopen these divisive debates.
"You hide with each answer," Trudeau said. "We are seeing that the three of us are aligned with the values of Quebecers and we have a fourth, a Conservative party, that is not aligned with either women's rights or LGBTQ rights."
When asked about a Quebec court decision that found parts of both the federal and provincial medically assisted dying laws too restrictive, Trudeau said the current law on medical assistance in dying might be too limited. But he used the moment to hammer Scheer on opposing such a law in the first place.
At a post-debate press conference, Scheer said like many Quebecers, he is Catholic. (The church is opposed to abortion and assisted death on religious grounds.) But the Conservative leader said he will govern for all Canadians and it would be status quo on abortion and same-sex marriage rights.
Watch: Scheer post-debate scrum (in English)
Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer said he'd need "certainty" before appealing Quebec's assisted death ruling and avoids answering why the Conservatives haven't purchased carbon offsets for the party's campaign plane following Wednesday's TVA debate. 2:10
Trudeau said on these issues, but also on the fight against climate change, Scheer doesn't "share our values." As for the Bloc, he said it will always be an opposition party.
"We need Quebecers in government to fight climate change," Trudeau said.
Singh was asked about his views on Quebec's secularism law, which he has said he opposes but has also said he would not challenge as prime minister. In answering, Singh attempted to convince Quebecers he shared their values on several issues.
"Well, I said clearly that this law is discriminatory. I am opposed to discriminatory laws. I am in favour of laws that bring people together — we should always try to bring people together," Singh said in French. "Mr. Blanchet wants to dwell on the past and on quarrels, but I am focusing on where people need help."
"Quebecers are sensitive to secularism, I understand that reality, it is a very strong tradition. I am in favour of the separation between church and state," Singh continued. "And I am in favour of (choice) in abortion and the right to die with dignity. And I will defend those rights with all my strength."
Watch: Singh post-debate scrum (in English)
While speaking to reporters after the TVA debate, NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh calls Bill-21, Quebec's secularism law, "really saddening." He also discusses what he would have done differently in regards to re-negotiating the new NAFTA agreement. 2:11
Trudeau is a 'hypocrite': Scheer
Scheer landed a few punches of his own on Trudeau, saying the Liberal leader is a "fraud" on climate action because his party is the only one that is flying two gas-guzzling airplanes around the country as part of this election campaign.
The Liberal Party confirmed it has a second jet, saying it is used to ferry cargo and technical equipment from one destination to the next to give workers enough lead time to set up ahead of campaign events. A spokesperson said the party had the same arrangement in 2015.
The Liberals said they have purchased carbon offset credits to cover greenhouse gas emissions generated from both planes and the campaign's ground transportation. The Conservative party has not.
Watch: Scheer calls Trudeau 'hypocrite' for 2 campaign planes
Andrew Scheer calls Justin Trudeau a "complete hypocrite" for having two campaign planes, while Trudeau says unlike the Conservatives, his party bought carbon credits for their planes and buses, following Wednesday's TVA debate. 1:08
In a post-debate scrum, Scheer said the Conservative party will hold Trudeau to account for his "hypocrisy," asking just how many "props" and "costumes" did Trudeau really need, a thinly veiled reference to Trudeau's 2018 India trip and to the recent blackface photos controversy.
"It's always the same with this guy. He's always really quick at giving lessons, and lectures and sermons on how everyone else should live their lives and when it comes to his own personal behaviour he's a hypocrite," Scheer said.
SNC-Lavalin
SNC-Lavalin, the Quebec engineering firm that has been at the centre of political debate in Ottawa for the better part of a year, was invoked a number of times Wednesday night.
Blanchet attacked Scheer for his rhetoric during the political scandal and chastised him for not standing up for the company's Quebec workers. The Bloc leader has said thousands of jobs could be lost if the company is convicted on federal corruption charges related to its work in Libya. He said Ottawa should use all the powers at its disposal to protect Quebec companies and to keep the headquarters of major firms in the province.
Scheer said Trudeau — who was found by the ethics commissioner to have inappropriately pressured former justice minister Jody Wilson-Raybould to sign a deferred prosecution agreement with SNC Lavalin — has undermined the independence of the country's judicial system.
Trudeau defended his actions, saying he was only interested in protecting jobs in the province. Scheer said there is no evidence that any jobs would actually be lost if the company is eventually convicted.
The NDP leader rejected the jobs defence, saying Trudeau's handling of the SNC-Lavalin affair shows the Liberal party is beholden to corporate interests and the lobbyists that represent them.
In his closing remarks, Singh again tried to paint Trudeau as someone more attuned to the demands of the country's elite rather than the workers he claims to represent. Singh said Trudeau "has surfed on his privilege all his life," whereas he, the son of working class immigrant parents, is "a fighter, a real progressive."
Bloc fights for relevance
Blanchet, a native Quebecer, and the leader with the best command of the French language, asked Quebecers to elect more MPs "who resemble you. Who share your values. And who work for your interests, and only for the interests of Quebecers."
Blanchet said the best way to ensure Quebec's voice is heard within Canada is to send more Bloc MPs to Ottawa, adding they would pressure the government of the day to send more shipbuilding work to Quebec's Davie yard.
He also said he'd force Ottawa to move to one tax return for Quebecers. Unlike other Canadians, Quebecers must file with both the province's tax collector and the Canada Revenue Agency.
He also said he wants to ensure the federal government doesn't intervene in a legal fight to end Quebec's secularism law, which forces public servants to remove religious garb while on the job.
"I am going to Ottawa to defend the right of Quebec to function in its own way," Blanchet said. "I don't want to send people to Ottawa who want to undo what we are doing in Quebec."
Scheer tells Blanchet Quebec must elect Conservatives (Courtesy of TVA)
Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer tells BQ Leader Yves-Francois Blanchet only Conservatives can represent Quebec and defeat Trudeau; Blanchet says that means Conservatives have been "useless" for last 4 years, during Wednesday's TVA debate. 0:52
When Scheer said it was the Conservative Party that finally recognized Quebec as a "nation within a united Canada," gave the province its own seat at United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) and corrected a lingering fiscal imbalance, Blanchet said the Tories acted on these issues only after facing pressure from the Bloc.
Scheer spent much of the debate questioning the value of Bloc MPs.
He said, because they will never be able to form a government, a vote for the Bloc is a wasted vote because it will do nothing to get Trudeau out of office.
The Bloc has a lot of demands, "but it's only us who can deliver them," Scheer said.
Watch: Blanchet post-debate scrum (in English)
Bloc Québécois Leader Yves-François Blanchet discusses support for Bill 21, which party leader would best represent the province's interests and argues that his party is the only choice for Quebec voters following Wednesday's TVA debate. 1:53
The debate moderator, Pierre Bruneau, asked Blanchet to say how many laws Bloc MPs have passed over the last three decades.
Knowing the answer is zero, Blanchet said Bloc MPs have served other functions.
Trudeau said Quebecers are better represented when they have a seat at the table of government.
Watch: Trudeau post-debate scrum (in English)
Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau is questioned about medically assisted dying, decriminalizing drugs beyond marijuana and using two election campaign planes following Wednesday's TVA debate. 2:14
Clarifications
- An earlier version of this story stated that Justin Trudeau was alleged to have inappropriately pressured former justice minister Jody Wilson-Raybould to sign a deferred prosecution agreement with SNC-Lavalin. The story has been updated to reflect that Trudeau was found by the ethics commissioner to have inappropriately pressured Wilson-Raybould.Oct 03, 2019 11:26 AM ET
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