From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 09:53:07 -0400
Subject: Attn Nicolas Vienneau CBC often deletes my words but they
cannot deny that my blog exists
To: michelvienneau@protonmail.com
Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
https://davidraymondamos3.
However I just checked and my comments are still there
https://www.cbc.ca/news/
For the record I talked to Annick Basque personally and she was not interested in talking
to me and hung up. So be it. I will just sit back and continue to watch the circus
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From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 11:04:10 -0400
Subject: Re: Attn Nicolas Vienneau Proof of what?
To: michelvienneau <michelvienneau@protonmail.com
Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Proof of what?
On 12/26/19, michelvienneau <michelvienneau@protonmail.com
> Mr Amos,
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> Your comments were found directely on the CBC wedsite. Thank you but we are
> looking for proof.
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> Thank you
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> Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.
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> Le jeudi 26 décembre 2019 09:29, michelvienneau
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>> Mr Amos,
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>> No comments were found. Could you please copy and resend back to us.
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>> Thank you!
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>> Le mercredi 25 décembre 2019 17:00, David Amos
>> david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
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>> > https://www.facebook.com/
>> > Nicolas Vienneau
>> > Yesterday at 2:23 PM ·
>> > Malice, a gift for Christmas! / more bullshit for Christmas!
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Methinks Chucky Leblanc and legions of lawyers and cops know that I know a bit about killer cops and corrupt coroner's inquests N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/12/bathurst-officers-involved-in-michel.html
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/bathurst-police-arbitration-hearing-decision-vienneau-death-1.5392483
As usual Chucky Leblanc has lots to say about this topic
Tuesday,
24 December 2019
Blogger's reaction of Bathurst Police Constables Mathieu
Boudreau and Patrick Bulger keeping their Jobs!!!
Posted by Charles Leblanc at 8:51 pm No comments :
Bathurst Police Constables Mathieu Boudreau and Patrick
Bulger will lose their jobs predicted by Blogger!!!!
Bathurst officers involved in Michel Vienneau's death can keep jobs, arbitrator rules
Vienneau was shot by Bathurst officer investigating Crime Stoppers tips almost five years ago
· CBC News · Posted: Dec 24, 2019 2:00 PM AT
Bathurst Police Force constables Mathieu Boudreau, left, and Patrick Bulger, centre, were suspended with pay pending the arbitrator's decision. (Shane Magee/CBC )
An arbitrator has ruled two Bathurst police officers will keep their jobs after a hearing over their roles in the shooting death of Michel Vienneau almost five years ago.
Constables Mathieu Boudreau and Patrick Bulger each faced five counts of code of conduct violations under the Police Act. Arbitrator Joël Michaud's 58-page written decision issued Tuesday says he did not find the officers violated the code of conduct.
He found the officers properly identified themselves, Vienneau's car was still in motion when Boudreau fired at Vienneau, Bulger acted "with restraint and good judgment" when he fired at Vienneau's rear tire to try to stop the car, and Boudreau did not act out of panic and fear.
As a result, he found the officers not guilty of the alleged breaches of the code of conduct and dismissed the matter.
The two officers were suspended from the Bathurst Police Force with pay pending the outcome of the hearing.
Arbitrator Joël Michaud heard testimony from 13 witnesses during the hearing that began in mid-October. (Shane Magee/CBC)
T.J. Burke, a lawyer representing Boudreau, said no one was celebrating the decision.
"It is a timely gift for the officers because they have been found without any wrongdoing both criminally, and now, civilly under the Police Act," Burke said in an interview.
"But at the end of the day, the officers were just doing their job. They want to put this behind them and they want to move forward with their careers now."
T.J. Burke, a lawyer representing Const. Mathieu Boudreau, says the officers want to move on and get on with their careers. (Jonathan Collicott/CBC)
The decision followed testimony from 13 witnesses during the hearing that began in mid-October and lasted 11 days. Closing arguments were offered Dec. 9 after which Michaud had 15 days to issue a decision. The decision is binding, though it can be subject to judicial review within 90 days.
Vienneau, a 51-year-old Tracadie businessman, was killed Jan. 12, 2015, at the Bathurst train station.
Bulger and Boudreau were among six undercover officers who rushed to the station based on anonymous Crime Stoppers tips that Vienneau was trafficking drugs on the train. The tips turned out to be false.
When Vienneau began to drive away from the station, Boudreau and Bulger moved to stop him. They exited an unmarked police car in plainclothes and drew their pistols.
Michel Vienneau, 51, of Tracadie had come off a Via Rail train from Montreal and was in his car when he was shot and killed by police. (Submitted by Nicolas Vienneau)
Michaud heard that Vienneau drove his Chevrolet Cruze into the police car and kept driving toward Bulger. Bulger testified he was hit by Vienneau's car and pinned against a snowbank.
Boudreau, who testified he feared for his partner's life, then fired four times at Vienneau.
Vienneau died of a gunshot wound to his left chest.
- Basque and Vienneau "sincerely believed" they were not facing police officers.
- Vienneau didn't try to avoid Bulger and did purposely drive his car to hit him.
- Police lights on the unmarked cars were activated.
- Clothing
and equipment used by officers were what was provided to them by the
police force, so it would be "inappropriate" to hold that against them.
- There was cause for "grave concerns" about the reliability of Basque's testimony.
- Vienneau's car was still moving when Boudreau fired his gun.
A separate investigation under the New Brunswick Police Act alleged the officers: didn't properly use and carry a firearm, abused their authority by using unnecessary force, failed to follow police policies and procedures and acted in a discreditable manner.
Basile Chiasson, a lawyer for the police chief, argued the officers had "tunnel vision" after hearing about the Crime Stoppers tips from a supervisor and rushed to the train station hoping to make an arrest and "show their mettle."
A rough recreation of what may have taken place at the train station on Jan. 12, 2015, based on testimony from witnesses at a police discipline hearing. 0:30
Chiasson declined to comment on the decision. A statement issued Tuesday by the City of Bathurst said the municipality will "take the necessary time to carefully analyze the decision."
Lawyers for the two officers said they were blamed for an operation that went according to plan until Vienneau hit Bulger.
It's unclear if Vienneau knew Bulger and Boudreau were officers. Vienneau's fiancée, Annick Basque, who was with him that day, testified she didn't know they were police officers when she saw Bulger with a gun in his hand. She thought they were being attacked by "druggies" or terrorists.
"I think Vienneau acted quickly based on what he expected to see and experience, not what was actually taking place," Michaud wrote of the fear of terrorists.
Michaud said he had "grave concerns" about the reliability of Basque's testimony because of inconsistencies with her own evidence and that of others, including misidentifying whether it was Boudreau or Bulger who was driving the unmarked car and shot Vienneau.
Boudreau has been a police officer since 2009 and Bulger since 2007. Both officers were described at the hearing by a former supervisor as promising with no previous use-of-force issues.
A photo of the shooting scene at the Bathurst train station on Jan. 12, 2015. (RCMP)
Michaud did offer some criticism of Bulger's testimony regarding a policy relating to how to conduct a traffic stop.
"I was unimpressed with the evidence of Bulger, to the effect that he would have been a sitting duck had he remained in the car with only the lower part of his body protected by the engine block,"
Michaud wrote. "To be blunt, it didn't make sense. I find that Bulger's 'interest in the outcome' and 'motive to deceive' affected his testimony on this point."
While the discipline hearing is over, there are still other proceedings related to the shooting underway. A civil case filed by Vienneau's family against the city and the officers is continuing through court.
Two years ago, the province ordered a coroner's inquest into Vienneau's death.
Inquest planned
The province has said the inquest will take place following the conclusion of the discipline hearing, though dates have not been set.
Coreen Enos, a spokesperson with the Department of Public Safety, told CBC News the inquest would only be held once "all legal proceedings" related to the hearing, such as any judicial review, are exhausted.
An inquest is a formal court proceeding that allows for public presentation of evidence relating to a death to help clarify the facts and circumstances.
The coroner does not assign responsibility or blame, but there may be recommendations on how to prevent similar deaths in the future.
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Commenting is now closed for this story. David Raymond Amos
Go figure why I am not surprised
David Raymond Amos
Methinks my brother must be rolling in his grave in light of the fact that he was one of the fellas who helped to introduce Crime Stoppers to the New Brunswick jurisdiction long ago N'esy Pas?
Mike Kennedy
Eastern Canada police forces need help enforcing the law breakers of "their own". I never cease to be amazed at the legal decisions coming out of PEI, NFL and NS since forever
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @mike kennedy: YUP Methinks folks should go to a library and review the news in the summer of 1982 after the RCMP hired me to testify at a Coroner's Inquiry in New Brunswick and then the RCMP were sued for a wrongful death N'esy Pas?
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Methinks the Province put the cart before the horse as usual N'esy Pas?
"The province has said the inquest will take place following the conclusion of the discipline hearing, though dates have not been set.
Coreen Enos, a spokesperson with the Department of Public Safety, told CBC News the inquest would only be held once "all legal proceedings" related to the hearing, such as any judicial review, are exhausted.
An inquest is a formal court proceeding that allows for public presentation of evidence relating to a death to help clarify the facts and circumstances.
The coroner does not assign responsibility or blame, but there may be recommendations on how to prevent similar deaths in the future."
"The province has said the inquest will take place following the conclusion of the discipline hearing, though dates have not been set.
Coreen Enos, a spokesperson with the Department of Public Safety, told CBC News the inquest would only be held once "all legal proceedings" related to the hearing, such as any judicial review, are exhausted.
An inquest is a formal court proceeding that allows for public presentation of evidence relating to a death to help clarify the facts and circumstances.
The coroner does not assign responsibility or blame, but there may be recommendations on how to prevent similar deaths in the future."
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @David
Raymond Amos: Methinks many lawyers will make certain that the fat lady
does not sing to soon for their benefit N'esy Pas?
"While the discipline hearing is over, there are still other proceedings related to the shooting underway. A civil case filed by Vienneau's family against the city and the officers is continuing through court. "
"While the discipline hearing is over, there are still other proceedings related to the shooting underway. A civil case filed by Vienneau's family against the city and the officers is continuing through court. "
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @mike
kennedy: "Michaud said he had "grave concerns" about the reliability of
Basque's testimony because of inconsistencies with her own evidence and
that of others, including misidentifying whether it was Boudreau or
Bulger who was driving the unmarked car and shot Vienneau."
Furthermore methinks the lawyer Joël Michaud has not heard the last word from the lawyers working Annick Basque N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/annick-basque-second-lawsuit-1.3339685
Furthermore methinks the lawyer Joël Michaud has not heard the last word from the lawyers working Annick Basque N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/annick-basque-second-lawsuit-1.3339685
Charles van Duren
So the code of conduct does not require investigation of anonymous tips before using deadly force.
Whitewash: blink (at), brush (aside or off), condone, discount, disregard, excuse, forgive, gloss (over), gloze (over), ignore, overlook, overpass, paper over, pardon, pass over, remit, shrug off, wink (at)
This is sure to increase respect for police and the law.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Charles van Duren: Surely you jest about a very serious matter
Mark Tax
Oops!Wrong kindergarten class! I'm outta here!
Johnny Horton
Almost 350k for sitting st home for four years, seeet deal.
Ivan Nozinski
I guess going on a shooting rampage, based on an anonymous tip, not checking the backgrounds of the alleged "drug dealers" is a professional and common action. These thugs in uniform murdered an innocent man and nothing happens... It seems that we are all equal, but some are more equal than others.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Ivan Nozinski: GO Figure
‘Hush money’: RCMP starts to settle with Mounties who Tasered Robert Dziekanski
By Jane Gerster Global News Posted June 8, 2019
"The coroner's jury looking into the suicide of former RCMP spokesman Pierre Lemaitre has handed down five recommendations.
‘Hush money’: RCMP starts to settle with Mounties who Tasered Robert Dziekanski
By Jane Gerster Global News Posted June 8, 2019
"The coroner's jury looking into the suicide of former RCMP spokesman Pierre Lemaitre has handed down five recommendations.
Patrick Smyth
Bottom line. If the police officers didn't act like Starsky and Hutch, that man would be alive today.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Patrick Smyth: BINGO
Brian Hughes
Justice has not been done in the death of an innocent man.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Brian Hughes:
But if it was "justice" you were looking for might I suggest you are looking in the wrong place?
But if it was "justice" you were looking for might I suggest you are looking in the wrong place?
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks you have been checking my work N'esy Pas?
William Walker
There was so much wrong in the way these cops handled this situation, they all should go to jail or at minimum, each one, top down should lose their jobs.
John Plank
Reply to @William Walker:
But received a 5 year paid Holiday..
.
But received a 5 year paid Holiday..
.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @John Plank:
Imagine that Plus its interesting news for Christmas Eve. Methinks the
lawyers hope folks will forget this once the Yuletide season is over
N'esy Pas?
Joseph Reid
I dont know these men can go back to their jobs and go out in the community and think that the people will look at them as anything other than murderers worthy of contempt!
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Joseph
Reid: Methinks if the Chief is wise he will give them desk jobs just
like T.J. Burke's client Louie Lefleur in Fat Fred City got N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/lou-lafleur-impaired-driving-1.3408411
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/lou-lafleur-impaired-driving-1.3408411
Joe Campbell
To pay police officers a 100 grand they should have a university degree first and then go to a police academy. Another problem is Canada is run by lawyers who drag these cases out for five years all will officers get suspended with pay. No wonder the country is broke and the taxpayers are the joke.
Norman Albert
Reply to @Joe
campbell: One lawyer in a small town would starve to death while two
would make each other risk. It is all a profitable game to them. Lawyers
are scum and the law is a joke.
Norman Albert
Reply to @Norman Albert: ".........two would make each other rich".
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Norman Albert: Oh So True
Peter Johnson
Reply to @Joe
campbell: wiggum - becoming a cop is not something that happens
overnight. It takes one solid weekend of training to get that badge.
forget about the badge when do we get the freaking guns? hey i told you,
you're not getting a gun until you tell me your name
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Joe
campbell: Welcome to the circus run by the Crown who employs all the
greedy politicians, bureaucrats, beancounters, media, lawyers and cops
who support the rampant public corruption within our so-called "Just
Democracy".
Methinks all the unions and at least one former Attorney General knows that these people act for their own benefit not the taxpayers they purportedly serve. Hence a Police Chief can hire cops but he can't fire them N'esy Pas?
Methinks all the unions and at least one former Attorney General knows that these people act for their own benefit not the taxpayers they purportedly serve. Hence a Police Chief can hire cops but he can't fire them N'esy Pas?
W J:
Tips were false, came in like Rambo, triggered an innocent person's fight or flight, start shooting, then oops sorry wrong people. These clowns need to be meter maids. They wanted a piece of the action, and saw things for what they wanted to see, and not what they actually were.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @W J: Welcome to the Circus
Ramzi Aladin
Based on some bs tip a citizen is murdered by the police and everyone gets off scoot free! What’s difference with China in this situation?
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Ramzi Aladin: The lingo
Mike Connors
I would have to disagree strongly Mr. Michaud, the Police in Bathurst have lost all respect in the community and beyond.
Theo Lavigne
Reply to @Mike Connors: Take a survey in Bathurst to see if they lost all respect.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Theo Lavigne: Methinks whereas it is your idea perhaps you should N'esy Pas?
Cleve Gallant
Think i will stay away from Bathurst,
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Cleve Gallant: Methinks many agree that would be wise N'esy Pas?
Claude DeRoche
For the safety of our citizens, we need to be advised when these murderers are on duty.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Claude DeRoche: Good point
Norman Albert
Maybe give them a medal as well for killing an unarmed man? Really sick Justice system!!!!
Johnny Horton
Reply to @Norman Albert:
The coroners inquest is gonna be brutal on the police force for how it handled the whole thing,
Unfortunately, as always, any changes, come for too late.
The coroners inquest is gonna be brutal on the police force for how it handled the whole thing,
Unfortunately, as always, any changes, come for too late.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Norman Albert: Methinks many agree that may be an understatement N'esy Pas?
Graham McCormack
Good to hear. They were were found not guilty by the court, they should have there jobs back.
I'm sure all the police haters will be along to tell me why the police are not to be trusted.
Norman Albert
Reply to @Graham McCormack: Loose cannons locked and loaded. Maybe you'll be next or one of yours.
Claude DeRoche
Chief Ernie Boudreau should resign in protest,
and give his job to one of these Bimbos.
and give his job to one of these Bimbos.
Norman Albert
Reply to @Graham
McCormack: I HAVE THE UTMOST RESPECT FOR ALL FIRST RESPONDERS UNTIL THEY
CROSS THAT LINE. They deserve no better than anyone else who kill or
fire at an unarmed civilian.
Johnny Horton
Reply to @Norman Albert:
I’m not s police hater - but - I’m also not s fan of the whole boys/girls in blue club. It disgusts me thst shen an officer is killed it’s sll hands on deck and police come from everywhere to help solve the murder. Yet when a civilian is killed, it’s just another day st the office for whatever police get assigned the case,
In an ethical world, it would be closer to the opposite. Thst the failure oF the state and it’s police agents to prevent someone from getting murdered, inspired them to come from across the country to solve the murder.
It we live in a society where it’s police job to react after the fact, rather than prevent the act.
I’m not s police hater - but - I’m also not s fan of the whole boys/girls in blue club. It disgusts me thst shen an officer is killed it’s sll hands on deck and police come from everywhere to help solve the murder. Yet when a civilian is killed, it’s just another day st the office for whatever police get assigned the case,
In an ethical world, it would be closer to the opposite. Thst the failure oF the state and it’s police agents to prevent someone from getting murdered, inspired them to come from across the country to solve the murder.
It we live in a society where it’s police job to react after the fact, rather than prevent the act.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Graham McCormack: Are you a cop trying to pick a fight?
Albert Wade
It takes longer to graduate from Clown School or Barber College than the 6 month course at Holiday College to become a cop.
The Holy Holy Mackerel
Reply to @Albert Wade: Police academy is a glorified remedial gym class.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Albert
Wade: Methinks Pt Barnum would agree that if you are gonna have a
profitable Circus you must hire well trained professionals. On the other
hand if the Circus is run by public officials and paid for by the
taxpayer the same rules do not apply N'esy Pas?
Lieschen Mueller
You are a police officer, you are above the law, sigh.
Robert Buck
Reply to @Lieschen
Mueller: They are not above the law. They went through the system and
this is the decision of the Courts and arbitrator. Just because you
believe the Courts and Arbitrator are wrong does not make you right.
Norman
Albert
Reply to @Robert
Buck: "They are not above the law."??? Prove it!!! Of you killed an
unarmed man would the courts be so forgiving?
Theo Lavigne
Reply to @Norman Albert: Did you know a car is a weapon
Robert Buck
Reply to @Norman
Albert: Proof is in the decisions of the court and arbitrator. The
proof is the Crown could not even get past the preliminary inquiry. To
me that says a lot.
W J:
Reply to @Robert Buck: you must really know how to spit shine a cops boots...professional boot licker.
Robert Buck
Reply to @W J: Well I know you have nothing intelligent to add if you have to lower yourself to name calling.
Norman
Albert
Reply to @Robert
Buck: I no longer trust the courts any more than the lawyers and judges
who pretend to be public servants. They are far from it. Recent court
rulings have only confirmed this.
Norman
Albert
Reply to @Robert Buck: It says the crown and police force work together. Make it look good!!!
Charles Van Duren
Reply to @Robert
Buck: Police perjury is a "corrosive" problem that fosters disrespect
for the law and threatens innocent people."
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/police-testimony-court-cases-investigation-1.5352086
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/police-testimony-court-cases-investigation-1.5352086
Lieschen
Mueller
Reply to @Robert
Buck: Considering how often unarmed persons are shot by the police and
that even in cases where a police officer is found guilty, he or she
often receives a discharge or a suspended sentence, sorry, but the truth
of the matter is that far too often police officers are coddled and
given preferences and yes, often are seemingly above the law.
Norman
Albert
Reply to @Theo Lavigne: A safety pin is a weapon. Your point is? Was it used as defence or offence?
Theo Lavigne
Reply to @Norman
Albert: Did you know one of the officer was pinned between the car and a
snow bank? Not between a snow bank and a safety pin. lol
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Lieschen
Mueller: Methinks that goes without saying Trust that a famous Yankee
lawyer with the same last name as you and the Crown know that many cops
and lawyers understand that I learned the truth about the "Justice
System" the hard way firsthand beginning way back in 1982. Anyone can
Google my name and Federal Court File No T-1557-15 N'esy Pas?
Steve Dueck
After following this story..I still say something is fishy....
Robert Buck
Reply to @Steve
Dueck: Like you said "followed" the story. So unless you went to every
court appearance and sat through ALL the evidence then how can you say
something is fishy.
Norman
Albert:
Reply to @Robert
Buck: Unarmed man shot and killer by plain clothes law enforcement
officers who suspected a drug mule? What exactly is missing here? They
shot and killed an unarmed man in the presence of a female companion. No
regard for either!!!!! shoot first ask questions Later???
James Vander
Reply to @Norman
Albert: This case has bothered me from the very start. And let there be
no doubt; the law courts and police force are one big happy family who
never reprimand each other, no matter what degree of negligence is
apparent to us mere peasants who pay their wages. Rest assured, these
two clown cops induced the situation to a murder by mishandling the
whole situation from the get-go. Outside of issuing speeding tickets,
they were in way over their heads. Mr. Vienneau was innocent and
unarmed- and now he is dead because of it. Nice going. And they still
get to keep their jobs?! Really?! Please, issue them cap guns so I can
feel safe again....
Robert
Buck
Reply to @Norman Albert: the car was the weapon.
Robert
Buck
Reply to @Norman
Albert: and again did you sit through all the testimony? If you Had
you would have known the car was the weapon.
Ramzi Aladin
Reply to @Steve Dueck: probably the whole thing was a set up including the bs tip
Norman
Albert
Reply to @Robert
Buck: weapon or only means of escape from a very dangerous situation.
What would you have done under fire. Fight or flight???
Steve Dueck
Reply to @Robert
Buck: I trust the news reporting if everything was unbiased...just as
the courts are...so I will believe what I read...and something just
doesn’t seem right...that’s all.
Robert
Buck
Reply to @Steve
Dueck: You trust the news reporting? Wow they would not be biased at
all. And again you did not hear all the testimony so you my be biased
also.
Robert
Buck
Reply to @Norman
Albert: I was not there so I can not answer that question. And you of
course have read all the case law on lethal force.
Charles Van Duren
Reply to @Robert Buck:
"Reply to @Norman Albert: the car was the weapon."
No. The uninvestigated "tip" was the weapon.
"Reply to @Norman Albert: the car was the weapon."
No. The uninvestigated "tip" was the weapon.
Norman
Albert
Reply to @Robert Buck: A badge should never be a licence to kill. The charge should be 2nd degree murder.
Theo Lavigne
Reply to @Norman Albert: I see you never followed the story.the tip was only received just before the train arrived.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Steve Dueck: Obviously you are not alone
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/review-of-michel-vienneau-fatal-shooting-by-bathurst-police-complete-1.3154950
Review of Michel Vienneau fatal shooting by Bathurst police complete
New Brunswick public prosecutions will review RCMP report, decide whether any charges will be laid
CBC News · Posted: Jul 16, 2015 2:39 PM AT
Michel Vienneau, pictured here with his wife, Annick Basque, was fatally shot by Bathurst police on Jan. 12. (Facebook)
Nova Scotia RCMP have concluded their investigation into a fatal Bathurst police shooting last winter, but are not releasing the results yet.
The report has been handed over to New Brunswick public prosecutions services to determine whether any charges are appropriate, Sgt. Alain LeBlanc said in a statement on Thursday.
Michel Vienneau, 51, of Tracadie-Sheila, was shot and killed by Bathurst police outside the Bathurst Via Rail station on Jan. 12, "as part of an ongoing investigaton."
In New Brunswick, police normally only forward a file to public prosecutions if they believe charges are warranted.
- Nova Scotia RCMP ask for public's help in New Brunswick shooting
- Fatal Bathurst police shooting confounds local residents
- Man shot and killed by Bathurst police after 'incident,' RCMP say
But in this case, Nova Scotia RCMP did not make any recommendations as part of their investigation, said LeBlanc.
"The RCMP will not be commenting on the details of the investigation at this time," he said.
The shooting occurred outside the Bathurst Via Rail station. Police have said it was part of an ongoing investigation. (Bridget Yard/CBC)
Charles
LeBlanc, the lawyer representing Vienneau's common law partner, Annick
Basque, declined to comment on Thursday, saying he hasn't had an
opportunity to review the report yet.
He says he hopes he will be provided with a copy — and he hopes it will be soon.Parents 'victimized' by waiting
Meanwhile, lawyer Raymond Wade, who is in charge of Vienneau's estate and is in touch with Vienneau's elderly parents, is frustrated.
"Normally, if it would have been an RCMP officer that was killed, we would have known … who the perpetrator was, and where he is and so forth," said Wade.
"We have that kind of frustration with the whole system that we're facing now — especially from the perspective of the parents. They're continually being victimized by the waiting," he said.- Raymond Wade, estate lawyer
"And as persons living in New Brunswick, and in Canada at large, we are also victims of the fact that there are somewhere facts that indicate a police officer killed a man and we don't know anything about it yet. This is completely abnormal."
The Bathurst Police Force asked Nova Scotia RCMP to handle the investigation the day after the shooting.
A team of major crime investigators was assigned to the case.
Basque previously told CBC News she and Vienneau had just returned from watching a hockey game in Montreal when they saw people running toward them with guns.
She said the plainclothes officers did not identify themselves. Vienneau tried to drive away and was shot, Basque said.
Vienneau, who owned an electronics store in Tracadie-Sheila, was later pronounced dead at Chaleur Regional Hospital.
Court documents indicate Bathurst police were investigating drug trafficking. An affidavit from Bathurst City Police Chief Eugene Poitras also suggests the possible involvement of organized crime.
In April, Vienneau's widow won the right to learn the names of the officers involved. She had filed a motion with the Court of Queen's Bench so she could pursue legal action against the officers.
Justice Larry Landry decided to release the identities and addresses of the officers to Basque and her lawyer, but ruled the information would not be made public.
Basque's lawyer appealed the decision to keep the officers' names private. The Court of Appeal has not yet reviewed the matter.
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unfortunate for the families of the victims....when it is persons of authority and/or position who hold a societal stature who have done the killing its takes time, lots of time for families and the public at large to receive justice.
The Robert Dziekanski killing is a recent example of how police gathered, brass along in order to protect reputations of individuals, the police force itself and therefore by extension the officers directly involved.
The Dziekanski case also reveals the lengths and faulty rationalizations a Crown prosecutor's office would undertake in refusing to lay charges despite evidence submitted to warrant charges
The service of Justice then can be reduced to having resort to public inquiries not court proceedings, even this can take a great deal of effort and time to realize.
That some form of public justice...even if it comes only in the form of public knowledge of crimes committed by police be achieved is important if we are to claim we are free for none can truly claim to be free in societies where justice can be delayed, thwarted or even denied.
it is not comforting being reminded justice can depend on who you are, what authority or position society grants you, nor is it admirable to the purpose of law being distorted with a legal system bent upon saving face at the expense of justice.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/annick-basque-second-lawsuit-1.3339685
Annick Basque files second lawsuit against City of Bathurst
Michel Vienneau's widow seeks damages for her arrest when Vienneau was shot and killed by police
· CBC News · Posted: Nov 27, 2015 11:56 AM AT
Michel Vienneau and common law partner, Annick Basque, were coming off a Via Rail train from Montreal. (Facebook)
The Via Rail train station in Bathurst was cordoned off for a week following the January 2015 shooting death of Michel Vienneau. (Bridget Yard/CBC)
Annick Basque asserts she was arrested using excessive force
and without cause in January when her common-law husband, Michael
Vienneau, was shot and killed by Bathurst police.
In Basque's second lawsuit, she is seeking financial compensation for damages.
Vienneau, 51, was shot by Bathurst police outside the Bathurst Via Rail station in January. Two officers, Const. Mathieu Boudreau, 26, and Const.Patrick Bulger,38, have been charged with manslaughter in relation to Vienneau's death.
Basque says in her statement of claim in the second lawsuit that she was arrested forcibly and without reason on the day of Vienneau's death.
Csts Boudreau and Bulger will appear in provincial court in Bathurst on Jan. 4, 2016. Both officers are suspended from the Bathurst police force with pay. (Bridget Yard/CBC News)
She recounts her version of the events outside Via Rail on Jan. 12 in more detail than in previous court documents.
Meanwhile, unbeknownst to the couple, Bathurst police had received an anonymous Crime Stoppers tip saying Vienneau was in possession of illegal drugs.
Basque's statement of claim describes the couple's arrival in Bathurst around 11:15 a.m. on Jan. 12.
She says they got off the train and walked to their car before placing their luggage in Vienneau's vehicle. Vienneau cleared snow off the car, got into the vehicle, and put it in reverse.
Basque claims plainclothes police observed the couple during this time, and made no move to approach them.
After the vehicle was in motion, Basque says a car occupied by Boudreau and Bulger blocked Vienneau's car. Two policemen got out of the vehicle, brandishing their revolvers.
Basque says in the court documents that she believed she was the victim of a terrorist attack, and thought the plainclothes officers were going to kill her.
Vienneau told Basque to get down, and pressed the gas, moving the vehicle. Then shots were fired, killing him.
Her cell phone was seized and she was told that she was under arrest for possession of illegal drugs with intent to traffic, then she was brought to the Bathurst detachment.
Basque says in her statement of claim that there is no evidence to support her arrest. She says no drugs were found in her or Vienneau's possession, or in their vehicle, and they had not committed any criminal acts.
Basque's claims are made in court documents and have not been proven in court.
At a news conference announcing the manslaughter charges against two police officers, an RCMP officer told reporters the review of the Bathurst police investigation by Nova Scotia RCMP did not find that Michel Vienneau had committed any criminal acts.
The City of Bathurst has yet to file a statement of defence.
https://www.iheartradio.ca/max-104-9/news/lawyer-says-annick-basque-was-not-michel-vienneau-s-wife-or-common-law-partner-1.2041629
Lawyer says Annick Basque was not Michel Vienneau's wife or common law partner
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and killed by Bathurst police says Annick Basque wasn't the man's wife
or common law partner.
This as a judge decides if Basque is entitled to Michel Vienneau's financial statements as part of her lawsuit against the city of Bathurst.
Basque's lawyer argues she and Vienneau began living together in 2011.
He says Vienneau did mary a Cuban back in 2010 but that the marriage was one of convenience so she could enter the country.
The judge will only rule on if Basque will be granted access to the paper work, not if she and her children were Vienneau's dependants.
A date has not been set for the decision.
(with files from the Acadie-Nouvelle)
This as a judge decides if Basque is entitled to Michel Vienneau's financial statements as part of her lawsuit against the city of Bathurst.
Basque's lawyer argues she and Vienneau began living together in 2011.
He says Vienneau did mary a Cuban back in 2010 but that the marriage was one of convenience so she could enter the country.
The judge will only rule on if Basque will be granted access to the paper work, not if she and her children were Vienneau's dependants.
A date has not been set for the decision.
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Bathurst police officers will not stand trial for shooting death of Tracadie businessman
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Judge Anne Dugas-Horseman ruled the Crown failed to meet the threshold of evidence required to order Constables Patrick Bulger and Mathieu Boudreau to stand trial on charges of manslaughter, assault with a weapon, and unlawfully pointing a firearm.
The two constables wept as Judge Dugas-Horseman gave her decision, while Crown prosecutor Stephen Holt said Vienneau's family is devastated.
Though pleased with the decision, attorney Brian Munro who represented Constable Bulger, said it's not a day for celebration.
He said the events that unfolded near the Bathurst train station in Jan. 2015 led to a man tragically losing his life, and that there's no joy in such a situation.
But Munro said Bulger is relieved and the hopes he, along with Boudreau, are able to move forward.
Munro says he was not surprised by Judge Dugas-Horseman's decision and said it was one that was well thought out.
A publication ban on evidence remains in place.
It's not yet known if the officers will return to active duty any time soon.
The City of Bathurst says it is a police matter and will not be offering comment. We've reached out to the Bathurst Police Force comment.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/family-michel-vienneau-end-criminal-proceedings-1.4412012
'It's not over': Michel Vienneau's family reeling after end of case against officers
Crown chose not to appeal latest defeat in legal battle against 2 officers accused in Vienneau’s 2015 death
Nicolas
Vienneau has questioned why the person who made the anonymous false tip
that led to the death of his brother, Michel, suffers no consequences. (François Vigneault/Radio-Canada)
The family of Michel Vienneau, the 51-year-old Tracadie businessman who was killed by police in a Via Rail train station, said they are discouraged by the Crown's decision not to appeal its latest defeat in the legal proceedings against the two officers accused in Vienneau's death.
But brother Nicolas said the family will continue to try to find answers, despite this marking the end of the criminal proceedings against the two officers, Mathieu Boudreau, 28, and Patrick Bulger, 38, of the Bathurst police force.
"It's not over," brother Nicolas Vienneau said to CBC News.
A provincial court judge ruled earlier this year that she didn't think the police did anything wrong when Vienneau was shot. An appeal court upheld her decision not to send the case to trial, and prosecutors decided this week not to challenge the ruling.
Police were acting on a Crime Stoppers tip that turned out to be false when they attempted to stop him the morning of Jan.12, 2015.
Vienneau said the family has been living a nightmare for the past three years.
"They didn't just kill my brother," Vienneau said. "They killed my entire family."
"We were just two in the family, me and my brother."
Nicolas Vienneau says he and his parents have been living a nightmare for the past three years, trying to understand what happened. (François Vigneault/Radio-Canada)
Vienneau believed whoever called in the false tip that his brother was carrying a "load of drugs" on a train from Montreal wanted to do harm to his brother.
For the family, there remain shady details surrounding the death, and Vienneau said he was disappointed the court protected the identity of the tipster.
Informer privilege is absolute and a tipster's identity cannot be disclosed even during court proceedings.
In extremely rare cases, a court has lifted that privilege for a person who contacted Crime Stoppers with the intention of furthering their own criminal activity or interfering with the administration of justice.
Vienneau also feels the investigation didn't go far enough.
"Did the court ask the right questions? It didn't ask for any members of the public to testify," he said, also criticizing the lack of testimony from crime scene witnesses at the preliminary inquiry.
About 75 people marched in the memory of Vienneau in Tracadie a year after his death. (Bridget Yard/CBC)
Besides Annick Basque, who was with Vienneau when he was shot, all the witnesses who testified were police officers.
Basque's version of events differed from that of the police officers. She testified the officers had not identified themselves, and she thought she and Vienneau were being attacked.
Basque has filed civil action against the City of Bathurst and the police force, and those proceedings are ongoing.
Vienneau family members have written to Justice Minister Denis Landry, asking for a coroner's inquiry into the death, following the Crown's decision not to appeal the latest turn in the criminal proceedings.
Nicolas Vienneau said he is also looking into bringing a petition to the House of Commons to have the identity of the tipster revealed.
"We're still looking for answers," he said.
The family of Michel Vienneau, the 51-year-old Tracadie businessman who was killed by police in a Via Rail train station, said they are discouraged by the Crown's decision not to appeal its latest defeat in the legal proceedings against the two officers accused in Vienneau's death.
But brother Nicolas said the family will continue to try to find answers, despite this marking the end of the criminal proceedings against the two officers, Mathieu Boudreau, 28, and Patrick Bulger, 38, of the Bathurst police force.
"It's not over," brother Nicolas Vienneau said to CBC News.
- No appeal sought in decision not to try 2 officers in Bathurst shooting death
- Why did a judge drop charges against 2 Bathurst officers who killed an innocent man?
A provincial court judge ruled earlier this year that she didn't think the police did anything wrong when Vienneau was shot. An appeal court upheld her decision not to send the case to trial, and prosecutors decided this week not to challenge the ruling.
Police were acting on a Crime Stoppers tip that turned out to be false when they attempted to stop him the morning of Jan.12, 2015.
Vienneau said the family has been living a nightmare for the past three years.
"They didn't just kill my brother," Vienneau said. "They killed my entire family."
"We were just two in the family, me and my brother."
Nicolas Vienneau says he and his parents have been living a nightmare for the past three years, trying to understand what happened. (François Vigneault/Radio-Canada)
Vienneau believed whoever called in the false tip that his brother was carrying a "load of drugs" on a train from Montreal wanted to do harm to his brother.
For the family, there remain shady details surrounding the death, and Vienneau said he was disappointed the court protected the identity of the tipster.
Informer privilege is absolute and a tipster's identity cannot be disclosed even during court proceedings.
In extremely rare cases, a court has lifted that privilege for a person who contacted Crime Stoppers with the intention of furthering their own criminal activity or interfering with the administration of justice.
Vienneau also feels the investigation didn't go far enough.
"Did the court ask the right questions? It didn't ask for any members of the public to testify," he said, also criticizing the lack of testimony from crime scene witnesses at the preliminary inquiry.
About 75 people marched in the memory of Vienneau in Tracadie a year after his death. (Bridget Yard/CBC)
Besides Annick Basque, who was with Vienneau when he was shot, all the witnesses who testified were police officers.
Basque's version of events differed from that of the police officers. She testified the officers had not identified themselves, and she thought she and Vienneau were being attacked.
Basque has filed civil action against the City of Bathurst and the police force, and those proceedings are ongoing.
Vienneau family members have written to Justice Minister Denis Landry, asking for a coroner's inquiry into the death, following the Crown's decision not to appeal the latest turn in the criminal proceedings.
Nicolas Vienneau said he is also looking into bringing a petition to the House of Commons to have the identity of the tipster revealed.
"We're still looking for answers," he said.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/michel-vienneau-family-reward-crime-stoppers-tips-1.5378238
Reward offered for information on false tip that led to Michel Vienneau's 2015 death
$10,000 reward put up for information leading to arrest and prosecution of tipster
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The family of Michel Vienneau is offering a $10,000 reward to people who have information regarding what led to his death almost five years ago.
This includes information on the "bogus Crime Stoppers tip" that came in before Vienneau was fatally shot by Bathurst police at the Via Rail station on Jan. 12, 2015.
Two tips alleged the 51-year-old Tracadie man was trafficking drugs on the train back from Montreal, where he had gone to watch a hockey game with his fiancée Annick Basque. A subsequent RCMP investigation found no evidence he was involved in criminal activity.
Nicolas Vienneau, Michel Vienneau's brother, wrote a public post about the reward on Facebook on Thursday. The post said Vienneau's family is suffering and attempting to cope with their grief over his death. The family did not respond to interview requests.
The post seeks information that leads to the "arrest and prosecution" of anyone involved in Vienneau's death, such as the names of people who led to the police operation.
The Via Rail train station in Bathurst following the January 2015 shooting death of Michel Vienneau. (Bridget Yard/CBC)
It says information provided to the family through an email in the post would be passed along to police for investigation.
Little is known about the source of the tips as Crime Stoppers promises to keep tipsters anonymous.
Yvon Comeau, elected president of Crime Stoppers New Brunswick's board of directors this year, said the program will continue to keep tipsters anonymous.
"If the public want to make and put an ad in the newspaper to find out who the tipster may be, that's their own prerogative," Comeau said.
Alain Tremblay, a retired RCMP officer, told Radio-Canada the family has been through a tragedy.
Alain Tremblay, a retired RCMP officer, says the offer is the first case, as far as he knows, of someone willing to give an award to identify a possible tipster. (Radio-Canada)
"I think it's the first time I'm aware that somebody is willing to give an award to identify a possible tipster," Tremblay said.
The Crime Stoppers program receives calls, texts and online submissions of tips that it then sends along to the relevant police force.
Any identifying information about the tipster is removed before the tip is provided to police. The program, which is run through a charity, doesn't record phone numbers, IP addresses or other data that could lead back to the tipster, according to its website.
"The tipster remains, in terms of identity, only a number and the tip remains anonymous," its website states.
"And in the context of an anonymous tip to Crime Stoppers, the privilege will not avail in circumstances in which a caller provides a tip with the intention of misleading the police — thus effectively obstructing justice — nor where a person engages in criminal activity solely in his or her personal interest," the decision states.
Crime Stopper's national website includes a section about the case that says that when a question is raised about whether the informer privilege has been applied properly, a private hearing must be held before a judge makes a ruling.
Comeau said he was not aware of the Supreme Court case and couldn't comment on its implications.
Bathurst Police Force Const. Mathieu Boudreau, left, and Const. Patrick Bulger are facing a discipline hearing related to the shooting. (Shane Magee/CBC )
The two tips about Michel Vienneau were sent to the Northeast Integrated Intelligence Unit on the morning of Jan. 12, 2015. The now shuttered unit carried out intelligence and surveillance on organized crime and drug trafficking in northeastern New Brunswick. The tips specifically named Vienneau and included information about the make and model of his car at the Bathurst train station.
Plainclothes officers in unmarked cars were waiting for Vienneau when he stepped off the train.
When he started to drive away, police tried to stop him. Annick Basque said she didn't know constables Patrick Bulger and Mathieu Boudreau were police when they appeared in front of Vienneau's car with guns drawn.
Criminal charges against the officers involved in the shooting were dropped after a preliminary inquiry after a judge found there wasn't enough evidence of a crime. Boudreau and Bulger are facing an ongoing police discipline hearing related to their conduct the day of the shooting.
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Michel Vienneau 'purposely' hit officer before shooting, RCMP report concluded
Constables Mathieu Boudreau and Patrick Bulger face disciplinary hearing over 2015 fatal shooting
· CBC News · Posted: Oct 22, 2019 10:34 AM AT
Larry Wilson, right, testified Tuesday about leading the RCMP investigation of the Bathurst shooting. (Shane Magee/CBC)
An RCMP investigation into the fatal shooting of Michel Vienneau in 2015 concluded a Bathurst police officer was justified in shooting the man to save the life of the officer's partner.
Bathurst Police Force's chief has recommended constables Mathieu Boudreau and Patrick Bulger be fired over their conduct around the shooting.
Boudreau and Bulger were among several officers waiting at the Via Rail train station for Vienneau based on two false Crime Stoppers tips that he was trafficking drugs back from Montreal. Boudreau and Bulger attempted to intercept Vienneau as he started to drive away from the station.
Larry Wilson led the Nova Scotia RCMP's investigation of the Jan. 12, 2015, shooting and prepared a report with its findings. Key findings were read by a lawyer for one of the officers during a discipline hearing in Bathurst on Tuesday as the author of the report testified.
Bathurst Police Force constables Patrick Bulger, left, and Mathieu Boudreau, centre, leave the hearing Monday with lawyer T.J. Burke. (Shane Magee/CBC)
The 21 key findings include that Bulger fired once at the car's rear tire to try to stop it, that Vienneau "purposely" struck Bulger with his car, and Boudreau shot four times to stop an imminent and ongoing threat to his partner's life.
"Pretty big finding, I would say," lawyer T.J. Burke said while cross-examining Wilson about his findings.
"Yes," Wilson said.
Another finding says Vienneau "may" not have known Bulger and Boudreau were police officers.
They dressed in plain clothes with only badges hanging from their necks. Several witnesses have testified this is not unusual for undercover officers. Wilson also said that flashing blue and red lights in the car driven by the officers weren't working.
Wilson said the report used "may" because the investigators can't know for certain.
Annick Basque, Vienneau's fiancée who was with the 51-year-old Tracadie man when the shooting occurred, testified last week she saw two men appearing to argue in a car next to theirs in the parking lot.
Annick Basque, Michel Vienneau's fiancée when he was shot and killed by police in January 2015. ( Francois Vigneault/Radio-Canada)
When Vienneau started to drive, the other car moved to block them. She testified the passenger got out, fell and then stood up and was holding a gun. She said Vienneau tried to move around them and then shots were fired.
There was also paint transfer between Vienneau's white Chevrolet Cruze and the unmarked police car driven by the two officers. The report also concluded that police, after thorough investigation, found no evidence that Vienneau had criminal history or ties.
An appendix to the report examining the use of force concludes that Mathieu Boudreau shot Michel Vienneau to save Patrick Bulger's life and that his actions were justified under the circumstances.
An RCMP investigation into the fatal shooting of Michel Vienneau in 2015 concluded a Bathurst police officer was justified in shooting the man to save the life of the officer's partner.
Bathurst Police Force's chief has recommended constables Mathieu Boudreau and Patrick Bulger be fired over their conduct around the shooting.
Boudreau and Bulger were among several officers waiting at the Via Rail train station for Vienneau based on two false Crime Stoppers tips that he was trafficking drugs back from Montreal. Boudreau and Bulger attempted to intercept Vienneau as he started to drive away from the station.
Larry Wilson led the Nova Scotia RCMP's investigation of the Jan. 12, 2015, shooting and prepared a report with its findings. Key findings were read by a lawyer for one of the officers during a discipline hearing in Bathurst on Tuesday as the author of the report testified.
Bathurst Police Force constables Patrick Bulger, left, and Mathieu Boudreau, centre, leave the hearing Monday with lawyer T.J. Burke. (Shane Magee/CBC)
The 21 key findings include that Bulger fired once at the car's rear tire to try to stop it, that Vienneau "purposely" struck Bulger with his car, and Boudreau shot four times to stop an imminent and ongoing threat to his partner's life.
"Pretty big finding, I would say," lawyer T.J. Burke said while cross-examining Wilson about his findings.
"Yes," Wilson said.
Another finding says Vienneau "may" not have known Bulger and Boudreau were police officers.
They dressed in plain clothes with only badges hanging from their necks. Several witnesses have testified this is not unusual for undercover officers. Wilson also said that flashing blue and red lights in the car driven by the officers weren't working.
Wilson said the report used "may" because the investigators can't know for certain.
Annick Basque, Vienneau's fiancée who was with the 51-year-old Tracadie man when the shooting occurred, testified last week she saw two men appearing to argue in a car next to theirs in the parking lot.
Annick Basque, Michel Vienneau's fiancée when he was shot and killed by police in January 2015. ( Francois Vigneault/Radio-Canada)
When Vienneau started to drive, the other car moved to block them. She testified the passenger got out, fell and then stood up and was holding a gun. She said Vienneau tried to move around them and then shots were fired.
There was also paint transfer between Vienneau's white Chevrolet Cruze and the unmarked police car driven by the two officers. The report also concluded that police, after thorough investigation, found no evidence that Vienneau had criminal history or ties.
An appendix to the report examining the use of force concludes that Mathieu Boudreau shot Michel Vienneau to save Patrick Bulger's life and that his actions were justified under the circumstances.
The Via Rail train station in Bathurst was cordoned off for a week following the January 2015 shooting death of Michel Vienneau. (Bridget Yard/CBC)
CBC News requested a copy of the report, which has not been publicly released before. Lawyers for the officers opposed disclosure, saying it could influence future witnesses. The arbitrator agreed but said it may be released once evidence is completed.
The now-retired officer testified up to 28 officers were involved in the investigation. His report was prepared to examine whether the shooting was justified and if there were grounds for criminal code charges against the officers.
Manslaughter charges were laid against Boudreau and Bulger based on the RCMP investigation, however a judge ruled there wasn't enough evidence of criminal intent to proceed to trial following a preliminary hearing.
Michel Vienneau and his partner Annick Basque were coming off a Via Rail train from Montreal when police acted on anonymous tips that Vienneau was trafficking drugs. (Facebook)
Lawyers for the officers have suggested at multiple times through the hearing that Vienneau hit and ran over Bulger.
Several witnesses have described seeing Bulger fall near the front of Vienneau's car, looking like he was trying to get away from it, and after the shooting limping around the scene.
Miramichi Police Force Const. Larry Matchett, the second witness to testify Tuesday, was also among the Northeast Integrated Intelligence Unit officers at the train station to investigate the Crime Stoppers tips.
He heard Bulger on a police radio give the order to "block" the car. He saw their unmarked police vehicle car stop "face to face" with Vienneau's car. Bulger and Boudreau then got out.
Matchett said Bulger was about 15 feet, or about 4½ metres, in front of the car when it accelerated.
Const. Larry Matchett of the Miramichi Police Force, one of the officers at the train station when Vienneau arrived, testified Tuesday afternoon. (Shane Magee/CBC)
"I saw Const. Bulger backing up, trying to get out of the way," Matchett said. Midway across the roadway, Bulger slipped and fell before getting up and continuing to back up. The car then hit a snowbank.
"As it did, Const. Bulger was pushing himself off the front passenger side of the car," Matchett said.
On Monday, two officers who were part of the surveillance operation testified that it was hastily organized after the members of the Northeast Integrated Intelligence Unit were alerted to the tips. The unit, before it was disbanded, brought together six officers from several area police forces.
The tips came in after the Via Rail train Vienneau was on was scheduled to arrive in Bathurst, but the train was late and officers rapidly set up around the station parking lot.
The appointed arbitrator, Joël Michaud, will decide what discipline the officers may face based on the evidence presented at the hearing.
Up to 17 witnesses were expected to testify during the arbitration hearing which began Oct. 16 and was scheduled to wrap up Oct. 25.
However, testimony is taking longer than expected and the possibility of continuing the hearing into next week has been raised.
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Subject: Re: Attn Mr Vienneau here is a little proof of what I say is true
To: david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
Please note that due to illness in the family, I will be away from the
office until next week and will have very limited access to my email.
I apologize for any inconvenience.
Veuillez noter qu'en raison de maladie dans la famille je serai absent
du bureau jusqu'à la semaine prochaine. J'aurai un accès très limité
à mes couriels. Je m'excuse de tout inconvénients.
---------- Original message ----------
From: "Harpelle, Paul (ENB)" <Paul.Harpelle@gnb.ca>
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 15:17:07 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Attn Mr Vienneau here is a little proof of
what I say is true
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
I am away from my office until January 6, 2020. I will be checking my
e-mails on occasion.
Je suis absent de mon bureau jusqu'au le 6 janvier 2020. Je vérifierai
mon courriel occasionnellement.
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From: postmaster@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 10:17:49 -0500
Subject: Undeliverable: Attn Mr Vienneau here is a little proof of
what I say is true
To: david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
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From: "Côté, Yves" <Yves.Cote@cef-cce.ca>
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 15:17:03 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Attn Mr Vienneau here is a little proof of
what I say is true
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
Je serai de retour le 6 janvier prochain.
En cas d'urgence, communiquez avec Me Marc Chénier au 819 939-2062.
--
I will be back on January 6, 2020.
In case of emergency, contact Marc Chénier at 819 939-2062.
For the record I talked to Annick Basque personally and she was not
interested in talking to me and hung up. So be it. I will just sit
back and continue to watch the circus
---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 11:04:10 -0400
Subject: Re: Attn Nicolas Vienneau Proof of what?
To: michelvienneau <michelvienneau@protonmail.com
Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Proof of what?
On 12/26/19, michelvienneau <michelvienneau@protonmail.com
> Mr Amos,
>
> Your comments were found directely on the CBC wedsite. Thank you but we are
> looking for proof.
>
> Thank you
>
>
> Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.
>
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> Le jeudi 26 décembre 2019 09:29, michelvienneau
> <michelvienneau@protonmail.com
>
>> Mr Amos,
>>
>> No comments were found. Could you please copy and resend back to us.
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.
>>
>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>> Le mercredi 25 décembre 2019 17:00, David Amos
>> david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
>>
>> > https://www.facebook.com/
>> > Nicolas Vienneau
>> > Yesterday at 2:23 PM ·
>> > Malice, a gift for Christmas! / more bullshit for Christmas!
>> > https://www.cbc.ca/news/
>
>
>
---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 09:53:07 -0400
Subject: Attn Nicolas Vienneau CBC often deletes my words but they
cannot deny that my blog exists
To: michelvienneau@protonmail.com
Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
https://davidraymondamos3.
However I just checked and my comments are still there
https://www.cbc.ca/news/
81 Comments
Commenting is now closed for this story.
David Raymond Amos
Go figure why I am not surprised
David Raymond Amos
Methinks my brother must be rolling in his grave in light of the fact
that he was one of the fellas who helped to introduce Crime Stoppers
to the New Brunswick jurisdiction long ago N'esy Pas?
Mike Kennedy
Eastern Canada police forces need help enforcing the law breakers of
"their own". I never cease to be amazed at the legal decisions coming
out of PEI, NFL and NS since forever
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @mike kennedy: YUP Methinks folks should go to a library and
review the news in the summer of 1982 after the RCMP hired me to
testify at a Coroner's Inquiry in New Brunswick and then the RCMP were
sued for a wrongful death N'esy Pas?
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Methinks the Province put the cart
before the horse as usual N'esy Pas?
"The province has said the inquest will take place following the
conclusion of the discipline hearing, though dates have not been set.
Coreen Enos, a spokesperson with the Department of Public Safety, told
CBC News the inquest would only be held once "all legal proceedings"
related to the hearing, such as any judicial review, are exhausted.
An inquest is a formal court proceeding that allows for public
presentation of evidence relating to a death to help clarify the facts
and circumstances.
The coroner does not assign responsibility or blame, but there may be
recommendations on how to prevent similar deaths in the future."
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Methinks many lawyers will make certain
that the fat lady does not sing to soon for their benefit N'esy Pas?
"While the discipline hearing is over, there are still other
proceedings related to the shooting underway. A civil case filed by
Vienneau's family against the city and the officers is continuing
through court. "
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @mike kennedy: "Michaud said he had "grave concerns" about
the reliability of Basque's testimony because of inconsistencies with
her own evidence and that of others, including misidentifying whether
it was Boudreau or Bulger who was driving the unmarked car and shot
Vienneau."
Furthermore methinks the lawyer Joël Michaud has not heard the last
word from the lawyers working Annick Basque N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/
etc etc etc
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
From: michelvienneau <michelvienneau@protonmail.com
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 13:29:04 +0000
Subject: Re: Attn Nicolas Vienneau No doubt you have read my comments
within CBC by now Perhaps its time we talked?
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
Mr Amos,
No comments were found. Could you please copy and resend back to us.
Thank you!
Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
Le mercredi 25 décembre 2019 17:00, David Amos
<david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
> https://www.facebook.com/
>
> Nicolas Vienneau
> Yesterday at 2:23 PM ·
>
> Malice, a gift for Christmas! / more bullshit for Christmas!
> https://www.cbc.ca/news/
---------- Orginal message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 11:16:48 -0400
Subject: Attn Mr Vienneau here is a little proof of what I say is true
To: motomaniac333@gmail.com,michel
Cc: carl.urquhart@gnb.ca, loyalistlaw@gmail.com, john.green@gnb.ca,
tj@burkelaw.ca, lou.lafleur@fredericton.ca, jeddy@coxandpalmer.com,
oldmaison@yahoo.com, andre@jafaust.com, greg.byrne@gnb.ca,
paulzed@zed.ca, smay@coxandpalmer.com, nbpc@gnb.ca,
ychoukri@wstephenson.com, Paul.Harpelle@gnb.ca,
Yves.Cote@elections.ca, Marc.Mayrand@elections.ca,
steve.roberge@gnb.ca, Randy.Reilly@fredericton.ca,
Leanne.Fitch@fredericton.ca, serge.rousselle@gnb.ca,
leanne.murray@mcinnescooper.
Paulette.Delaney-Smith@rcmp-
infomorningfredericton@cbc.ca, dmombourquette@pinklarkin.com,
george.filliter@gnb.ca, hugh.flemming@gnb.ca, national@mppac.ca,
Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca, chiefape@gmail.com, Catherine.Tait@cbc.ca,
david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
On 1/7/19, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
Re: A little Deja Vu for the Police Commission N'esy Pas Stevey Boy Roberge?
> https://www.
>
> Commission Members:
>
> Lynn Chaplin, Acting Chair - Biography
> Marc Léger, member - Biography
> Robert (Bob) Eckstein, member, Biography
> John W. Foran, member
> Jill Whalen, Acting Executive Director / CEO
>
>
>
> https://www.
>
>
> ROBERT ECKSTEIN
> New Brunswick Police Commission
> Phone : (506) 453-2069
> Fax : (506) 457-3542
> Email : nbpc@gnb.ca
>
>
>
> https://www.stu.ca/socialwork/
>
> Bob Eckstein
> Field Education Coordinator
> Brian Mulroney Hall 304
> Phone: 506-452-7702
> Fax: 506-452-0611
> Email: beckstein@stu.ca
>
> https://www.
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 01:21:47 -0400
> Subject: Re: Hey TJ Burke and Louie Lafleur January 11th is coming
> fast Ya can't say that your buddies and the Police Commission ain't
> mentioned bigtime in my complaint N'esy Pas Stevey Boy Roberge?
> To: loyalistlaw@gmail.com, "john.green" <john.green@gnb.ca>,
> tj@burkelaw.ca, "lou.lafleur" <lou.lafleur@fredericton.ca>,
> jeddy@coxandpalmer.com, oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, andre
> <andre@jafaust.com>, sunrayzulu <sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>, "greg.byrne"
> <greg.byrne@gnb.ca>, paulzed@zed.ca, smay@coxandpalmer.com, nbpc
> <nbpc@gnb.ca>, ychoukri@wstephenson.com, "Paul.Harpelle"
> <Paul.Harpelle@gnb.ca>, "Michael.Quinn"
> <Michael.Quinn@electionsnb.ca>
> "Marc.Mayrand" <Marc.Mayrand@elections.ca>, "steve.roberge"
> <steve.roberge@gnb.ca>, Randy.Reilly@fredericton.ca, "Leanne.Fitch"
> <Leanne.Fitch@fredericton.ca>, "serge.rousselle"
> <serge.rousselle@gnb.ca>, "leanne.murray"
> <leanne.murray@mcinnescooper.
> <Paulette.Delaney-Smith@rcmp-
> <Stephen.Horsman@gnb.ca>, infomorningfredericton
> <infomorningfredericton@cbc.ca
> george.filliter@gnb.ca, "hugh.flemming" <hugh.flemming@gnb.ca>,
> national <national@mppac.ca>, "robert.stoney" <robert.stoney@gnb.ca>,
> "Jacques.Poitras" <Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>, "ht.lacroix"
> <ht.lacroix@cbc.ca>, chiefape <chiefape@gmail.com>
> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Catherine.Harrop@cbc.ca, "redmond.shannon" <redmond.shannon@cbc.ca>,
> Joe Friday <Friday.Joe@psic-ispc.gc.ca>, loyalistlawoffice
> <loyalistlawoffice@yahoo.ca>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Robert Stoney <loyalistlawoffice@yahoo.ca>
> Date: Tue, 05 01 2016 05:05:12
> Subject: Auto Response: Hey TJ Burke and Louie lafleur January 11th is
> coming fast Ya can't say that your buddies and the Police Commission
> ain't mentioned bigtime in my complaint N'esy Pas Stevey Boy Roberge?
> To: motomaniac333@gmail.com
>
> I am currently experiencing difficulties with the following email accounts:
>
> robertstoney@yahoo.ca
>
> loyalistlawoffice@yahoo.ca
>
> If you have sent a message to either of these accounts, please re-send
> that message to:
>
> loyalistlaw@gmail.com
>
> Also, please update my contact information to reflect
> loyalistlaw@gmail.com as my primary email address, effective
> immediately.
>
> Thank you for your patience.
>
> //RMS//
>
> Robert Stoney
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Auto-reply from ychoukri@wstephenson.com" <ychoukri@wstephenson.com>
> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 00:05:07 -0500
> Subject: Re: Hey TJ Burke and Louie lafleur January 11th is coming
> fast Ya can't say that your buddies and the Police Commission ain't
> mentioned bigtime in my complaint N'esy Pas Stevey Boy Roberge?
> To: motomaniac333@gmail.com
>
> Happy Holidays!
> Please note that I will be out until January 5, 2016 and will have
> limited access to my emails. I will attempt to reply to urgent emails
> when possible.
>
> Joyeuses Fêtes!
> Veuillez noter que je serai absent jusqu'au 5 janvier 2016. J'aurai un
> accès limité à mes courriels. Je tenterai de répondre aux courriels
> urgents dès que possible.
>
>
> On 1/5/16, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Like Hell the NBPC do not get my emails EH?
>>
>> On 12/30/15, David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Happy New Year and Please Enjoy :)
>>
>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/
>>
>>
>> Stephen Horsman says Police Act to be modernized
>> New Brunswick Police Commission is calling for 13 changes to the law
>>
>> By Jacques Poitras, CBC News Posted: Feb 27, 2015 6:42 AM AT
>>
>>
>>
>> Public Safety Minister Stephen Horsman says his department is working
>> on changes to the Police Act that will modernize the oversight of
>> municipal police officers and departments.
>>
>> Horsman says it’s too early to talk about specific changes, but he
>> says officials will "look at the whole act, what needs to be updated,
>> what needs to be modernized, to meet the needs of 2015, not the 1960s
>> or 1970s."
>>
>> His comments come after the 2013-14 annual report by the New Brunswick
>> Police Commission called for updates to the law.
>>
>> "We are of the opinion that the time has come to re-open the Police
>> Act and to make changes that are necessary to ensure that police
>> oversight is in step with current practices across the country," the
>> report states.
>>
>> Horsman, a retired Fredericton city police officer, says the public’s
>> expectations of transparency in law enforcement are higher than they
>> were when the legislation was written.
>>
>> "Today, people are more inclined to question or to ask questions about
>> their rights, especially dealing with police officers or police
>> departments and I applaud them for that. They should be," he says.
>> Police commission seeking 13 changes
>>
>> Steve Roberge, the police commission’s executive director, says the
>> organization is looking for 13 changes.
>>
>> One would allow the commission to extend the time it has to
>> investigate a complaint. The law says if it doesn’t complete an
>> investigation within six months and send it to arbitration or a
>> settlement conference, it loses jurisdiction.
>>
>> "The problem with that is that some investigations, for example for
>> harassment, involve a lot of interviews and many employees and
>> witnesses and they take a very long time," Roberge said.
>>
>> He’d like to see the law changed so that — like the legislation in
>> British Columbia — it gives the commission the power to extend the
>> time limit in certain cases.
>>
>> "It’s an issue of fairness, not only to the complainants to make sure
>> we do a thorough investigation and not be pressed by time limits, but
>> also to the … police officer who’s the subject of the complaint, to
>> give them a thorough investigation and ensure we get all the facts
>> properly," he says.
>>
>> Woodstock police
>>
>> The New Brunswick Police Commission received 64 complaints last year.
>> (CBC)
>>
>> Another change would let the commission assign multiple investigators
>> to complex complaints. At the moment, it can only assign one
>> investigator per case.
>>
>> But some investigations require more people, Roberge says, and "we
>> can’t do that under the act."
>>
>> The commission investigates complaints from the public about the
>> conduct of municipal police officers.
>>
>> The RCMP has its own complaints process that covers its officers, who
>> handle policing in areas of New Brunswick without municipal forces.
>>
>> The commission also has a role in ensuring adequate policing
>> throughout the province and must be consulted if a municipality wants
>> to cut the number of officers.
>>
>> The commission’s report also raises a concern that more police
>> officers, who are the subject of complaints, are opting out of the
>> settlement conference process.
>>
>> That process allows the complainant, the officer, and the officer’s
>> chief of police to deal with the complaint informally, which takes
>> less time and costs less money than a full arbitration hearing.
>>
>> "It’s an efficiency issue. A settlement conference is done locally and
>> doesn’t require a lot of expenditures," Roberge said.
>>
>> It also means the process isn’t public, but Roberge says the
>> complainant, the officer, and the officer’s manager are all in the
>> settlement conference and know what happens.
>>
>> It’s the officer’s right to opt out of the settlement conference and
>> Roberge says he doesn’t know why they’re doing that.
>>
>> Roberge says the commission handled a total of 56 files in 2013-14
>> containing a total of 64 allegations. Half dealt with alleged abuse of
>> authority, fewer than a quarter alleged discreditable conduct, and the
>> rest made other allegations such as neglect of duty.
>>
>> Of the 64 allegations, 13 per cent were dismissed and four per cent
>> were withdrawn, while 50 per cent were investigated and didn’t require
>> further action.
>>
>> Sixteen per cent of the complaints were still unresolved at the end of
>> 2013-2014 and 17 per cent went to arbitration.
>>
>> Of the cases that went to arbitration, one led to sanctions against a
>> police officer, Roberge said.
>>
>> In that case, a Woodstock town police officer, Const. John Morrison,
>> was suspended for a week without pay after an arbitrator found he had
>> abused his authority while off duty.
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Police Commission / Commission de police
>> <Commissiondepolice.
>> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 15:39:10 +0000
>> Subject: Automatic reply: Sometimes less is more So heres a little
>> Deja Vu for the CBC, CTV, the Irving newsrags, the Fat Fred City
>> Finest & their lawyers, Chucky Leblanc and his fan club and his unamed
>> lawyer before he is tried for assault
>> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>
>> We are currently out of the office and will return on Monday, January
>> 4th,
>> 2016.
>>
>> Nous sommes présentement hors du bureau et nous serons de retour
>> lundi le 4 janvier 2016.
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Don MacPherson <macpherson.don@dailygleaner.
>> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 07:39:07 -0800
>> Subject: Out of office Re: Sometimes less is more So heres a little
>> Deja Vu for the CBC, CTV, the Irving newsrags, the Fat Fred City
>> Finest & their lawyers, Chucky Leblanc and his fan club and his unamed
>> lawyer before he is tried for assault
>> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>
>> I will be out of the office until Jan. 4. If you have a pressing
>> matter you need to discuss with someone at The Daily Gleaner, please
>> contact assignment editor Anne Mooers at (506) 458-6441 or email
>> news@dailygleaner.com.
>>
>> --
>> Don MacPherson
>> The Daily Gleaner
>> (506) 458-6479
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "LaBonte, Luc (OAG/CPG)" <Luc.LaBonte@gnb.ca>
>> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 15:39:08 +0000
>> Subject: Automatic reply: Sometimes less is more So heres a little
>> Deja Vu for the CBC, CTV, the Irving newsrags, the Fat Fred City
>> Finest & their lawyers, Chucky Leblanc and his fan club and his unamed
>> lawyer before he is tried for assault
>> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>
>> I will out of the office until January 4, 2016. I will periodically
>> check my e-mails, however, expect delays for responses. Should you
>> have an emergency, please contact 506-453-2784.
>>
>> Je serai absent du bureau jusqu'au 4 janvier 2016. Je vérifirai mon
>> courriel de temps en temps mais il y aura un délai pour les réponses.
>> Si vous avez une urgence, s.v.p. veuillez contacter le 506-453-2784.
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "Green, John (DNR/MRN)" <John.Green@gnb.ca>
>> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 15:39:08 +0000
>> Subject: Automatic reply: Sometimes less is more So heres a little
>> Deja Vu for the CBC, CTV, the Irving newsrags, the Fat Fred City
>> Finest & their lawyers, Chucky Leblanc and his fan club and his unamed
>> lawyer before he is tried for assault
>> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>
>> Je suis présentement hors du bureau et je serai de retour le lundi 4
>> janvier. Pour de l'assistance immédiate veuillez téléphoner la
>> receptioniste au 453-3826
>> .
>>
>> Merci et Bonne journée.
>> --------------------
>> I am currently out of the office and will return on Monday, January 4.
>> For immediate assistance please call the receptionist at 453-3826
>>
>> Thank you and Have a nice day
>>
>> John Green
>> Human Resources Advisor / Conseiller en Ressources humaines
>> Department of Natural Resources/
>> Ministère des Ressources naturelles
>> Phone / Téléphone: (506) 457-6925
>> Fax / Télécopieur: (506) 453-2486
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Go public <gopublic@cbc.ca>
>> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 07:39:07 -0800
>> Subject: Thank you Re: Sometimes less is more So heres a little Deja
>> Vu for the CBC, CTV, the Irving newsrags, the Fat Fred City Finest &
>> their lawyers, Chucky Leblanc and his fan club and his unamed lawyer
>> before he is tried for assault
>> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>
>> Hi - and thanks so much for writing to Go Public.
>>
>> This is an automatic response.
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>> Manjula Dufresne, Producer
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Newsroom <newsroom@globeandmail.com>
>> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 10:39:07 -0500
>> Subject: Out of Office: Sometimes less is more So heres a little Deja
>> Vu for the CBC, CTV, the Irving newsrags, the Fat Fred City Finest &
>> their lawyers, Chucky Leblanc and his fan club and his unamed lawyer
>> before he is tried for assault
>> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>
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>>
>>
>> New Brunswick Police Commission funding running out
>> Arbitrations involving police officers threatening to drive
>> commission's finances into the red
>>
>> By Catherine Harrop, CBC News Posted: Nov 23, 2015 7:55 AM AT
>>
>> The New Brunswick Police Commission is running out of cash to cover
>> the cost of arbitration hearings even as more cases are being put on
>> its agenda, according to its executive director.
>>
>> Steve Roberge, the commission's executive director, said arbitration
>> hearings and settlement conferences are quickly eating through the
>> commission's budget.
>>
>> He said the average settlement conference would cost the chief of
>> police, or the civic authority or the commission, approximately
>> $20,000. But he said the average cost for an arbitration hearing is
>> about $56,000.
>>
>> "Our biggest challenge right now is that we have 50 per cent of our
>> year completed and we have expended almost three-quarters of our
>> funding," he said.
>>
>> 'Our biggest challenge right now is that we have 50 per cent of
>> our year completed, and we have expended almost three-quarters of our
>> funding.'
>> - Serge Roberge, executive director New Brunswick Police Commission
>>
>> The commission has completed three arbitration hearings this year
>> involving officers from Saint John, Fredericton and Beresford-Nigadoo.
>>
>> Roberge said the single biggest cost for the commission, after
>> salaries, is legal fees.
>>
>> Three hearing in the past two years have run up tabs totaling $152,077.
>>
>> The estimated cost of the investigation and hearing for Fredericton's
>> Const. Jeffrey Smiley is expected to be another $60,000, with the
>> other half of the $120,000 cost being paid by the city.
>>
>> When a dispute can't be resolved in a settlement conference, it moves
>> to arbitration.
>>
>> The commission does not hear all arbitration hearings and only deals
>> with ones where the chief of police is, or appears to be, in a
>> conflict of interest, or is new to the Police Act.
>>
>> Roberge said in the past two years, the number of arbitration hearings
>> reaching the commission has steadily increased.
>>
>> "Whether it's a tactic that they're employing, hoping that the
>> commission and the chiefs and civic authorities will back down, or
>> whether it's simply that they're feeling more threatened, I'm not sure
>> what it is, to be candid with you, other than we've noted a trend in
>> the last two years," Roberge said.
>> Union costs rising too
>>
>> The costs are also rising for unions as more cases move to arbitration
>> hearings.
>> hi-shane-duffy
>>
>> Cpl. Shane Duffy, the president of the Fredericton police force union,
>> UBC Local 911, said the rising number of arbitration hearings is also
>> increasing costs for unions.
>>
>> Cpl. Shane Duffy, the president of Fredericton's police union UBC
>> Local 911, laughs at the suggestion that it's a tactic to move to full
>> hearings.
>>
>> Duffy said arbitration hearings cost the union a lot too.
>>
>> According to Duffy, settlement conferences are always better, if both
>> sides come in willing to negotiate.
>>
>> "It would save us all money and save us all time, and save us all
>> angst about going through that subsequent arbitration process," he
>> said.
>>
>> As for why so many more police officers seem to be in conflict with
>> the laws they have sworn to uphold, Cpl. Duffy said stress could be a
>> factor.
>>
>> "Work that used to be shared between 12 officers, now shared between
>> eight officers," he said.
>>
>> "It's just, I believe, a huge contributing factor. Stress related to
>> the every day of the job continues to build and continues to built,
>> and people under stress or duress don't always make the right
>> decisions or the best decisions."
>>
>> An arbitration hearing involving the Fredericton force and Const.
>> Cherie Campbell is scheduled for Dec. 7 and another arbitration
>> involving Smily is scheduled for May 24.
>>
>> The commission must also deal with accusations against Saint John's
>> deputy police chief and the suspension of two Bathurst police officers
>> charged with manslaughter in the shooting death of Michel Vienneau.
>>
>> Roberge said he has been in contact with the Department of Public
>> Safety about the commission's expected shortfall, but the response has
>> been the commission has to work within its budget.
>>
>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/
>>
>>
>> Fredericton officer accused of misappropriation of funds won't face
>> criminal probe
>> N.B. Police Association decides not to file criminal complaint, but
>> conduct investigation ongoing
>>
>> By Redmond Shannon, CBC News Posted: Jun 29, 2015 9:26 PM AT
>>
>> The New Brunswick Police Association says it will not be filing a
>> criminal complaint about a Fredericton Police Force officer, accused
>> of misappropriating funds from the association while a member of its
>> executive committee.
>> Fredericton Police
>>
>> The New Brunswick Police Association decided not to file a criminal
>> complaint against the Fredericton police officer after he paid an
>> undisclosed amount of money to the association. (Daniel McHardie/CBC)
>>
>> "We had a meeting and we dealt with it internally, with the opinion of
>> our lawyer," said Const. Dean Secord, president of the New Brunswick
>> Police Association (NBPA).
>>
>> Secord says the decision to not file a criminal complaint against the
>> officer was taken after he paid an amount of money to the NBPA, which
>> is a lobby group representing municipal and regional police unions.
>>
>> The paid amount is not necessarily the amount allegedly
>> misappropriated, he said.
>>
>> "What I can tell you is that we have come to agreement on the amount,
>> and from that agreement, and the opinion of the lawyer, that is the
>> amount that was agreed upon," said Secord.
>>
>> "From that, we are going to co-operate with the Police Act
>> investigation, which has started, and we are going to move forward
>> from that," he said.
>>
>> The New Brunswick Police Commission (NBPC), a provincial oversight
>> body, is currently investigating a conduct complaint filed by
>> Fredericton Police Chief Leanne Fitch.
>>
>> The accused officer is suspended with pay, pending the outcome of the
>> investigation.
>>
>> The NBPC says possible sanctions against an officer it finds guilty
>> of wrongdoing can range from a verbal reprimand to dismissal.
>>
>> "Criminal charges require a criminal investigation from the police
>> force of jurisdiction," said executive director Steve Roberge.
>>
>> The RCMP "are not prepared to investigate without a formal complaint," he
>> said.
>>
>> Secord says the jurisdiction for any criminal investigation would rest
>> with the RCMP because the officer lives outside the city of
>> Fredericton.
>>
>> Last year, Fredericton's former Transit Manager, Tony Hay, resigned
>> after an internal review uncovered "small financial irregularities."
>>
>> The City of Fredericton decided to withdraw criminal charges against
>> the former employee, but Fredericton Police subsequently re-opened the
>> case.
>>
>> In early June, Fredericton Police charged Hay with stealing and
>> defrauding the city of an amount under $5,000.
>>
>> Hay is scheduled to appear in provincial court on July 3.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/
>>
>>
>> Police Association being 'bullied' in misappropriation probe, says
>> president
>> Dean Secord has called lawyer about concerns with Police Commission
>> investigator in Fredericton officer case
>>
>> By Redmond Shannon, CBC News Posted: Jul 02, 2015 7:12 PM AT Last
>> Updated: Jul 02, 2015 7:12 PM AT
>>
>> The president of the New Brunswick Police Association alleges his
>> members are being "bullied" by an investigator, who is looking into
>> allegations that a Fredericton police officer misappropriated funds
>> from the association while a member of its executive.
>> Fredericton Police
>>
>> The New Brunswick Police Association decided not to file a criminal
>> complaint against the Fredericton police officer after he paid an
>> undisclosed amount of money to the association. (Daniel McHardie/CBC)
>>
>> Dean Secord says he has contacted a lawyer about his concerns
>> regarding the investigator, who is working on behalf of the New
>> Brunswick Police Commission (NBPC) — a police oversight body.
>>
>> "We are more than willing to co-operate and we want to co-operate to
>> put this matter behind us, but we are not going to be intimidated or
>> bullied to give statements," said Secord, speaking on behalf of the
>> NBPA, a lobby group representing police officers at the provincial
>> level.
>>
>> "[This investigator is] demanding certain items and we have a concern
>> with his demeanour in the way he's demanding this," he said.
>> Law enforcement obligated to co-operate
>>
>> The NBPC has been contacted by a lawyer, confirmed executive director
>> Steve Roberge. But he contends it was pertaining to evidence connected
>> to the investigation.
>>
>> Roberge expects the investigation, which was sparked by a conduct
>> complaint about the unnamed officer by Fredericton Police Chief Leanne
>> Fitch, should be complete in less than six months.
>>
>> "Our investigator will interview all members of the NBPA executive,
>> and if they are law enforcement personnel, then they are obligated,
>> under the Police Act, to co-operate," he said.
>>
>> Secord says he still hasn't been contacted by the investigator. "And
>> I'm the president."
>>
>> Last month, Secord said the NBPA would not be filing a criminal
>> complaint against the accused member, who is currently suspended from
>> the Fredericton Police Force with pay.
>>
>> Secord said the decision was taken after the officer paid an amount of
>> money to the NBPA. The paid amount is not necessarily the amount
>> allegedly misappropriated, he said.
>>
>> The jurisdiction for any criminal investigation would rest with the
>> RCMP, because the officer lives outside the city of Fredericton,
>> Secord said. The RCMP have refused to comment on the matter.
>>
>> The NBPC says possible sanctions against an officer it finds guilty
>> of wrongdoing can range from a verbal reprimand to dismissal.
>>
>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/
>>
>>
>> 2 complaints about Fredericton officer hitting pedestrian filed
>> Chief and citizen submitted complaints after witness raised questions
>> about officer leaving scene
>>
>> CBC News Posted: Jun 24, 2015 1:32 PM AT
>>
>> Fredericton Police Chief Leanne Fitch has filed a complaint with the
>> New Brunswick Police Commission regarding the conduct of an officer
>> whose cruiser struck a pedestrian at a downtown crosswalk last
>> weekend.
>>
>> A citizen has also filed a complaint with the commission, which is an
>> independent civilian body that investigates complaints about the
>> conduct of any police officer in New Brunswick.
>>
>> Both complaints were received on Wednesday morning, said executive
>> director Steve Roberge.
>> Fredericton crosswalk where pedestrian hit by police cruiser
>>
>> Greg Collette says he was on the patio at Mexicali Rosa's when he
>> heard the 'loud thud' of a pedestrian being struck by a police cruiser
>> at the adjacent crosswalk. (CBC)
>>
>> They come on the heels of a CBC News report that included witnesses
>> questioning whether the officer involved followed proper procedure.
>>
>> Greg Collette said he saw the officer put the injured man in the back
>> of his cruiser and drive away instead of remaining at the scene and
>> calling for help.
>>
>> "The police officer cannot make judgement on himself and state that
>> what he did was right, or wrong. It has to go through a full
>> investigation," said Collette, a Canadian Forces veteran.
>>
>> The incident occurred on Saturday at about 10 p.m. at a marked
>> crosswalk at the intersection of King and Westmorland streets.
>>
>> A Fredericton Police Force spokesperson has said the pedestrian was
>> treated in hospital for "very minor injuries" and released and that
>> speed was not a factor.
>>
>> 'I told them I was not going to the station, that they should be
>> coming up to the accident where all the witnesses were, that we could
>> all give statements.'
>> - Greg Collette, witness
>>
>> The investigation is ongoing.
>>
>> Fredericton police have refused to divulge their protocol for officers
>> involved in a traffic accident.
>>
>> RCMP have also refused to disclose their protocol, citing the ongoing
>> Fredericton investigation.
>>
>> Collette says he was on a restaurant patio at the intersection in
>> question when the pedestrian was struck.
>>
>> "We heard a loud thud, I immediately turned and seen a police cruiser
>> across the crosswalk and a man laying in the street," he said.
>>
>> "The pedestrian's shoe had came off and it had flew, I'm guessing
>> somewhere in the vicinity of 20 feet, to the front of the cruiser … He
>> was dazed, you could tell. When he stood up he couldn't stand
>> straight, he was crouched over," said Collette.
>>
>> "We witnessed the police officer exit the vehicle, move around front
>> and apologize and saying that he was sorry, he didn't see him."
>>
>> Collette says he called police, who told him to go to the station.
>>
>> "I told them I was not going to the station, that they should be
>> coming up to the accident where all the witnesses were, that we could
>> all give statements," he said.
>>
>> "We sat at the Mexicali Rosa's from just after 10 o'clock until
>> closing, at midnight, and they had ample opportunity to come up and
>> speak with any witness that was there, and no one did so."
>>
>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/
>>
>>
>> Fredericton police chief Leanne Fitch cleared by commission
>> Police commission investigation stemmed from complaint laid by Const.
>> Jeff Smiley of Fredericton force
>>
>> CBC News Posted: Oct 26, 2015 4:55 PM AT
>>
>> Fredericton police chief Leanne Fitch, and seven of her officers, have
>> been cleared of wrongdoing by the New Brunswick Police Commission in
>> the Jeff Smiley case.
>>
>> Const.Jeff Smiley, of the Fredericton Police Force, laid a complaint
>> with the commission, alleging various contraventions of the New
>> Brunswick Police Act.
>>
>> Two suspended officers get arbitration dates
>> Assault charge against Const. Jeffrey Smiley dismissed
>> Fredericton officer accused of domestic assault
>>
>> Steve Roberge, the executive director of the New Brunswick Police
>> Commission, says, "We've exonerated the police officers involved."
>>
>> He would not release the details of the complaints other than to say
>> they were related to the Police Act code of conduct, "especially given
>> that all members have been exhonerated."
>>
>> Roberge says the police commission's investigator "came to the
>> conclusion that none of the allegations could be sustained."
>>
>> Smiley made the complaint in January. He has said he believes Fitch is
>> attempting to end his career.
>>
>> In October 2014, a domestic assault charge against Smiley was
>> dismissed over a jurisdictional issue.
>>
>> He was accused of assaulting his live-in girlfriend on Feb. 17, 2014.
>> hi-jeff-smiley
>>
>> Const. Jeff Smiley brought a complaint against Fredericton Police
>> Chief Leanne Fitch and seven other members of the force. (Rachel
>> Cave/CBC)
>>
>> However, as the assault is alleged to have occurred at Smiley's
>> parents's house in Nova Scotia, Fredericton police did not have the
>> authority to lay the charge.
>>
>> Smiley now has an arbitration hearing before the New Brunswick Police
>> Commission scheduled for November and another for May 2016.
>>
>> CBC News contacted Police Chief Fitch and was told she is away and
>> unavailable for an interview. But the police chief issued an email
>> statement.
>>
>> "On behalf of the Fredericton Police Force, myself and the affected
>> members named in these complaints, we are pleased that due process has
>> concluded, and that those involved in this unfortunate and complicated
>> matter were acting in good faith and have been exonerated of any wrong
>> doing in the course of our duty," the statement said.
>>
>> Smiley, a decorated officer, has been suspended with pay since he was
>> charged, pending the outcome of the criminal court proceedings.
>>
>> He received the Star of Courage from the Governor General in December
>> 2013 for pulling a 73-year-old woman from her car after it plunged
>> into the St. John River on Jan. 8, 2012.
>>
>> Smiley jumped into the frigid water to break the window and rescue
>> Shirley Foster.
>>
>> He also received a Commanding Officer Commendation in April 2012 for
>> the rescue.
>>
>> The New Brunswick Police Commission's decisions are final. According
>> to Roberge they are only subject to judicial review.
>>
>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/
>>
>> Saint John police chief complaint about Glen McCloskey probed
>> Barry MacKnight appointed by New Brunswick Police Commission to
>> examine conduct of deputy chief
>>
>> CBC News Posted: Oct 20, 2015 9:51 AM AT
>>
>> Former Fredericton police chief Barry MacKnight has been appointed by
>> the New Brunswick Police Commission to investigate a complaint made
>> against Saint John Deputy Police Chief Glen McCloskey by the chief of
>> the Saint John Police Department.
>> John Bates, Saint John's police chief
>>
>> John Bates, Saint John's police chief (Twitter)
>>
>> Saint John Police Chief John Bates asked for the investigation on Oct.
>> 14 following testimony that arose during Dennis Oland's second-degree
>> murder trial.
>>
>> During the trial, retired staff sergeant Mike King testified McCloskey
>> suggested he lie under oath about the Richard Oland murder case.
>>
>> McCloskey also testified and denied King's allegations that he
>> suggested the investigator alter his testimony about McCloskey's
>> presence at the bloody crime scene.
>> Deputy Chief Glen McCloskey, Saint John Police Force
>>
>> Deputy Chief Glen McCloskey, Saint John Police Force (CBC)
>>
>> McCloskey served as Saint John's acting police chief between Bill
>> Reid's retirement in April and a few weeks ago when Bates took over
>> the role. McCloskey remains on active duty.
>>
>> Bates directed the Saint John force's professional standards unit to
>> look into the issue and also advised the Saint John Board of Police
>> Commissioners and the New Brunswick Police Commission of the matter.
>>
>> The investigation under the Police Act by MacKnight will not begin
>> until the conclusion of the Oland trial.
>>
>> The trial is expected to run until mid-December.
>> Workshop to discuss Police Act changes
>>
>> The police commission announced the MacKnight appointment as they were
>> set to begin a three-day workshop Tuesday to discuss possible changes
>> to the Police Act.
>>
>> The topics under discussion include everything from the ability to
>> suspend officers without pay, to coming up with a new name for the
>> commission.
>>
>> Police chiefs and municipal representatives from across the province
>> and RCMP officials are honing their pitch to government.
>>
>> Commission executive director Steve Roberge was disappointed police
>> unions and the minister of Public Safety declined to take part.
>>
>> "We are a little concerned that the ministry isn't participating. We
>> would have preferred to see that leadership present today, denoting
>> their support for the revisions to the act," said Roberge.
>>
>> Roberge says he hopes the fact that Public Safety Minister Steve
>> Horsman is a former police officer would make him more aware of why
>> the revisions are needed, and not less inclined to favour them.
>>
>> Roberge says one issue keeps coming up.
>>
>> "The chiefs of police are very adamant about the suspension, without
>> pay, of police officers."
>>
>> Fredericton Police Chief Leanne Fitch said amendments to the Police
>> Act in 2008 have "resulted in some unintended consequences that have
>> been problematic, both in terms of administering the act, as well as
>> discipline and code of conduct proceedings."
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/
>>
>>
>> Const. Jeff Smiley dismissed from Fredericton Police Force
>> Smiley's career in law enforcement in New Brunswick 'is definitely
>> done,' said police commission
>>
>> CBC News Posted: Dec 02, 2015 9:39 AM AT
>>
>> "A very clear message'
>>
>> Roberge said Haines's ruling "sends a very clear message" about
>> domestic violence.
>>
>> "Police are required to be trustworthy and are now double held to
>> account," said Roberge, citing a legal case that now requires police
>> to hand over records of the discipline and misconduct of its officers
>> as part of its disclosure obligation to the defence in criminal
>> proceedings.
>> Media placeholder
>>
>> RAW: Steve Roberge on Jeff Smiley2:40
>>
>> "This case law will significantly challenge the day-to-day operations
>> of any police officer whose credibility has been brought into question
>> by a Police Act disciplinary process."
>>
>> A criminal assault charge against Smiley was dismissed earlier over a
>> jurisdictional issue as the assault in question in the case was
>> alleged to have happened in Nova Scotia, so Fredericton police didn't
>> have authority to investigate it and recommend charges.
>>
>> Smiley has been suspended with pay since his arrest on the criminal
>> domestic assault charge in February 2014.
>>
>> The ruling can not be appealed. However, Smiley could seek a judicial
>> review of the arbitrator's decision.
>>
>> Roberge said Smiley's career in law enforcement in New Brunswick "is
>> definitely done."
>>
>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/
>>
>> Fredericton police Const. Cherie Campbell arbitration wraps up
>> Closing arguments presented today at N.B. Police Commission arbitration
>> hearing
>>
>> By Philip Drost, CBC News Posted: Dec 16, 2015 3:34 PM AT
>>
>> Lawyers in the arbitration hearing for Const. Cherie Campbell gave
>> their closing arguments Wednesday. Campbell was expected to testify in
>> her own defence, but when her lawyer, T.J. Burke, was asked if he had
>> anyone to call forward, he said no.
>>
>> "That was always an option as to whether she should testify, but she
>> has already testified at a criminal court, at a jury trial in the
>> state of Maine," said Burke.
>>
>> "We didn't feel it was appropriate for her to give her testimony a second
>> time."
>>
>> Campbell is charged with violating the police code of conduct by
>> shoplifting, by attempting to obtain favourable treatment from another
>> police officer, and by asking another police officer to try to keep
>> news about her shoplifting arrest from Chief Leanne Fitch.
>>
>> The arbitration hearing will determine what, if any, discipline
>> Campbell might face stemming from her arrest after pocketing $20 of
>> cosmetics from Marden's discount store in Houlton, Me., in December
>> 2014.
>> Chief Leanne Fitch
>>
>> Fredericton Police Chief Leanne Fitch filed a complaint with the New
>> Brunswick Police Commission about Const. Cherie Campbell. (CBC)
>>
>> Campbell's trial for shoplifting in Maine resulted in a hung jury. The
>> matter ended up being settled out of court without a finding of guilt
>> or innocence.
>>
>> When no further witnesses were called to testify Wednesday, closing
>> arguments began.
>>
>> The lawyer representing Chief Leanne Fitch, who made the charges,
>> Jamie Eddy, told the arbitrator that shop lifting wouldn't have been a
>> big deal, if that was all that happened. He said on a scale from one
>> to 10, the shoplifting was probably only a five.
>>
>> What he said made it a 10 was that Campbell wouldn't take
>> responsibility for her actions. He also said that three different
>> times she tried to use her position as a police officer to get someone
>> to show her leniency.
>>
>> Eddy said that because of this, Campbell should be dismissed from the
>> force.
>>
>> While going over some evidence, Burke argued before arbitrator Cedric
>> Haines this hearing shouldn't be happening. He said that because the
>> case had already gone through the judicial process in Maine, it
>> doesn't make sense to go through the process again.
>>
>> The complaint against Campbell was laid with the New Brunswick Police
>> Commission by Fitch.
>> Lawyer outlines precedents
>>
>> Burke presented some precedents to the arbitrator. He said a case in
>> Toronto had a man who was charged with sexual assault and found
>> guilty, so he lost his job. The man's union appealed this, but it was
>> found that since he was already found guilty, there was no need to go
>> through the process again.
>>
>> Burke argued Campbell's situation was the same, just the other way
>> around. Campbell hadn't been convicted so there wasn't a reason to go
>> through the process again.
>>
>> Lawyer Jamie Eddy, acting on behalf of Fredericton Police Chief Leanne
>> Fitch, said he didn't know of the cases Burke presented, and needed
>> time to respond. Haines told Eddy he could give him a written response
>> to which Burke could also respond.
>>
>> Campbell's lawyer has described the incident as an "honest mistake,"
>> saying Campbell put some lipstick and eyeliners in her pocket after
>> they kept falling out of her cart in Marden's discount store in Maine
>> and then forgot to pay for them when she paid for other items.
>>
>> Burke concluded by saying that if the arbitrator did feel discipline
>> was required, dismissal from the force wasn't the only option. He said
>> that a 20-to-30 day suspension without pay would be appropriate.
>>
>> "The starting point is not dismissal," said Burke during the proceedings.
>>
>> Eddy said that would be fair, if it wasn't for the things Campbell did
>> after she had been caught shoplifting.
>>
>> Both lawyers agreed that Campbell did commit the act of shoplifting.
>> The question comes down to whether the intent was there or not.
>> Arbitrator Haines will look at the evidence and cases he has been
>> given, and hopes to have a decision by Jan. 7.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/
>>
>> 2 more Fredericton police officers face criminal charges
>> Lou Lafleur charged Monday with impaired driving while Tim Sowers
>> faces charge of uttering threats
>>
>> CBC News Posted: Jan 04, 2016 11:58 AM AT
>>
>> Two more members of the Fredericton Police Force are now facing
>> criminal charges.
>>
>> Cpl. Lou Lafleur was charged Monday with impaired driving in relation
>> to an incident in 2015 that was investigated by the Miramichi Police
>> Force.
>>
>> Lafleur remains on active desk duty until the conclusion of the
>> criminal proceedings.
>>
>> He will appear in court on Jan. 18 at 9:30 a.m.
>>
>> On Dec. 22, Sgt. Tim Sowers was charged with uttering threats by the
>> Kennebecasis Regional Force following an incident in June. Further
>> charges are expected.
>>
>> Sowers will appear in Fredericton court on Jan. 27 at 9:30 a.m.
>>
>> Police Act investigations will take place in both cases once the
>> criminal proceedings have concluded.
>>
>> In November, Fredericton officer Darrell Ian Brewer pleaded not guilty
>> to a charge of impaired driving following a single vehicle accident on
>> Aug. 23.
>>
>> The Fredericton force saw two of its members face disciplinary
>> hearings before an arbitrator in New Brunswick Police Commission
>> hearings in 2015.
>>
>> Const. Jeff Smiley was ordered dismissed by the arbitrator for charges
>> originating with a domestic assault.
>>
>> Const. Cherie Campbell was before an arbitrator on a case involving
>> shoplifting and attempting to obtain favourable treatment from another
>> police officer. The arbitrator's ruling in that case is expected this
>> week.
>>
>>
>> Thomas J. Burke
>> Theriault Burke Law
>> 1st Flr. 150 Cliffe St., Suite R6
>> Fredericton, New Brunswick E3A 0A1
>> Phone: (506) 449-1200
>> Fax: (506) 449-1225
>> E: tj@burkelaw.ca
>> www.tblaw.net
>>
>> Jamie Eddy Partner
>> Fredericton
>> Phone: (506) 462-4751
>> Fax: (506) 453-9600
>> Cell: (506) 476-0600
>> jeddy@coxandpalmer.com
>>
>> Zed, L. Paul, Professional Corporation
>> 3189 Rothesay Rd.
>> Rothesay, New Brunswick E2E 5V5
>> Phone: 506-849-4444
>> Email: paulzed@zed.ca
>>
>>
>> http://www1.gnb.ca/legis/
>>
>> March 23, 2006 1:00PM
>> Legislative Assembly
>> Standing Committee on Public Accounts
>> NOTICE OF MEETING - AGENDA
>> 1 p.m. Department of Justice
>>
>> Appearing: Yassin Choukri, Deputy Minister
>> Suzanne Bonnell-Burley, Assistant Deputy Minister - Justice
>> Michael Comeau, Assistant Deputy Minister - Court Services
>> Neil Foreman, Director, Financial Services
>> Judith Keating, Director, Legislative Services
>> Cedric Haines / Clyde Spinney, Director, Legal Services
>> Glen Abbot, Director, Public Prosecutions
>>
>> Year under review: 2004-2005
>>
>> 2:30 p.m. New Brunswick Advisory Council on Seniors
>>
>> Appearing : Sister Anne Robichaud, Chairperson
>>
>> http://www2.gnb.ca/content/
>>
>> Office of the Attorney General
>> 2011 Queen's counsel appointments named
>> 07 October 2011
>>
>> Media Contact(s)
>>
>> Paul Harpelle, communications, Office of the Attorney General,
>> 506-453-6543.
>>
>> FREDERICTON (CNB) – Eleven New Brunswick lawyers have been appointed
>> Queen's counsel. Lt.-Gov. Graydon Nicholas made the announcement
>> today.
>>
>> The recipients are:
>>
>> ● Susan E. Burns, Fredericton;
>> ● Barbara Hughes Campbell, Fredericton;
>> ● David R. Colwell, Saint John;
>> ● François T. Doucet, Campbellton;
>> ● J. Charles Foster, Fredericton;
>> ● Bernard Lord, Moncton;
>> ● James R. McAvity, Saint John;
>> ● James K. O'Connell, Saint John;
>> ● Bernard Richard, Cap-Pelé;
>> ● Marc L. Richard, Fredericton; and
>> ● D. Ann Whiteway Brown, Woodstock.
>>
>> The chief justice of New Brunswick, J. Ernest Drapeau, chairs the
>> committee that makes recommendations to the lieutenant-governor.
>>
>>
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>>> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 21:01:30 EST, David Amos
>>> <motomaniac333@gmail.com&
>>>
>>> http://www.thetyee.ca/Opinion/
>>> [1]
>>>
>>> How New Dems Can Outsmart Liberals in 2016
>>>
>>> Not by moving further left, but by moving ahead (where they've
>>> usually been).
>>>
>>> By Crawford Kilian, Today, TheTyee.ca
>>>
>>> Crawford Kilian
>>>
>>> Crawford Kilian was born in New York City in 1941. He was raised in
>>> Los Angeles and Mexico City, and was educated at Columbia University
>>> (BA '62) and Simon Fraser University (MA '72). He served in the US
>>> Army from 1963 to 1965, and moved to Vancouver in 1967. He became a
>>> naturalized Canadian in 1973.
>>>
>>> Crawford has published 21 books -- both fiction and non-fiction, and
>>> has written hundreds of articles. He taught at Vancouver City College
>>> in the late 1960s and was a professor at Capilano College from 1968
>>> to
>>> 2008. Much of Crawford's writing for The Tyee deals with education
>>> issues in British Columbia, but he is also interested in books,
>>> online
>>> media, and environmental issues.
>>>
>>> Reporting Beat: Education, health, and books
>>>
>>> Crawford's Connection to BC: Though he was born in New York City, one
>>> of Crawford's favourite places is Sointula, a small town off the
>>> northeast coast of Vancouver Island.
>>>
>>> Twitter: @crof
>>>
>>> Website: H5N1
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 15:42:25 -0400
>>> Subject: Fwd: A little Deja Vu for you before I am back in Federal
>>> Court Court on Jan 11th
>>> To: atlanticnews <atlanticnews@ctv.ca>
>>> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 15:32:52 -0400
>>> Subject: A little Deja Vu for you before I am back in Federal Court
>>> Court on Jan 11th
>>> To: brian.barnett@gnb.ca [2], Richard.Williams@gnb.ca [3],
>>> Krista.COLFORD@gnb.ca [4], serge.rousselle@gnb.ca [5],
>>> mcu@justice.gc.ca [6],
>>> jean-francois.dupuis@gnb.ca [7], justice.comments@gnb.ca [8],
>>> johanne.bray@gnb.ca [9], "macpherson.don"
>>> <macpherson.don@dailygleaner.
>>> <nmoore@bellmedia.ca>
>>> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>> "brian.t.macdonald"
>>> <brian.t.macdonald@gnb.ca>, "David.Coon"
>>> <David.Coon@gnb.ca>
>>>
>>> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.
>>> [10]
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 01:47:09 -0400
>>> Subject: Yo Danny Boy Bussierres Who do ya think Serge Rouselle will
>>> send to argue me about your actions in Federal Court???
>>> To: "dan. bussieres" <dan.bussieres@gnb.ca>,
>>> Richard.Williams@gnb.ca [11],
>>> "marc.chiasson" <marc.chiasson@mcinnescooper.
>>> Denis.Theriault@gnb.ca [12], "serge.rousselle"
>>> <serge.rousselle@gnb.ca>,
>>> "sebastien.michaud" <sebastien.michaud@gnb.ca>,
>>> pierre.ouellette@gnb.ca [13], tammy.moreau@gnb.ca [14],
>>> isabel.lavoiedaigle@gnb.ca [15], Michael.Hynes@gnb.ca [16],
>>> maya.hamou@gnb.ca [17],
>>> nancy.forbes@gnb.ca [18], david.eidt@gnb.ca [19],
>>> jean-francois.dupuis@gnb.ca [20],
>>> "claude.poirier" <claude.poirier@snb.ca>,
>>> heather.doyle.landry@gnb.ca [21],
>>> Krista.COLFORD@gnb.ca [22], brian.barnett@gnb.ca [23], sallybrooks25
>>> <sallybrooks25@yahoo.ca>, andre <andre@jafaust.com>
>>> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>> "martin.gaudet"
>>> <martin.gaudet@fredericton.ca>
>>> <Wayne.Gallant@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
>>> <leader@greenparty.ca>,
>>> complaints@officiallanguages.
>>> commissioner@
>>> <andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca>
>>>
>>> http://www2.gnb.ca/content/
>>> [26]
>>>
>>> http://www2.gnb.ca/content/
>>> [27]
>>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 15:42:25 -0400
>> Subject: Fwd: A little Deja Vu for you before I am back in Federal
>> Court Court on Jan 11th
>> To: atlanticnews <atlanticnews@ctv.ca>
>> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 15:32:52 -0400
>> Subject: A little Deja Vu for you before I am back in Federal Court
>> Court on Jan 11th
>> To: brian.barnett@gnb.ca, Richard.Williams@gnb.ca,
>> Krista.COLFORD@gnb.ca, serge.rousselle@gnb.ca, mcu@justice.gc.ca,
>> jean-francois.dupuis@gnb.ca, justice.comments@gnb.ca,
>> johanne.bray@gnb.ca, "macpherson.don"
>> <macpherson.don@dailygleaner.
>> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>> <brian.t.macdonald@gnb.ca>, "David.Coon" <David.Coon@gnb.ca>
>>
>> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 01:47:09 -0400
>> Subject: Yo Danny Boy Bussierres Who do ya think Serge Rouselle will
>> send to argue me about your actions in Federal Court???
>> To: "dan. bussieres" <dan.bussieres@gnb.ca>, Richard.Williams@gnb.ca,
>> "marc.chiasson" <marc.chiasson@mcinnescooper.
>> Denis.Theriault@gnb.ca, "serge.rousselle" <serge.rousselle@gnb.ca>,
>> "sebastien.michaud" <sebastien.michaud@gnb.ca>,
>> pierre.ouellette@gnb.ca, tammy.moreau@gnb.ca,
>> isabel.lavoiedaigle@gnb.ca, Michael.Hynes@gnb.ca, maya.hamou@gnb.ca,
>> nancy.forbes@gnb.ca, david.eidt@gnb.ca, jean-francois.dupuis@gnb.ca,
>> "claude.poirier" <claude.poirier@snb.ca>, heather.doyle.landry@gnb.ca,
>> Krista.COLFORD@gnb.ca, brian.barnett@gnb.ca, sallybrooks25
>> <sallybrooks25@yahoo.ca>, andre <andre@jafaust.com>
>> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>> <martin.gaudet@fredericton.ca>
>> <Wayne.Gallant@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
>> complaints@officiallanguages.
>> commissioner@
>> <andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca>
>>
>> http://www2.gnb.ca/content/
>>
>> http://www2.gnb.ca/content/
>>
>> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 03:23:18 -0300
>> From: "David Amos" david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>> To: "Eidt, David (OAG/CPG)" David.Eidt@gnb.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com,
>> t.j.burke@gnb.ca, police@fredericton.ca, danny.copp@fredericton.ca,
>> jacques.boucher@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>> samperrier@hotmail.com
>> Subject: Re: Hey Mr Eidt is it you or the RCMP I argue in order to get
>> my Harley and the wiretap tapes back?
>>
>> Go cry a river to your boss T.J. Burke or his buddy Jeff Mockler I
>> know what I sent you and I understand your obligations as a lawyer and
>> a public servant . It is not harrassment tio expect a bureaucrat in
>> the justice dept to uphold the law. You are a liar sir please allow me
>> to tell your boss and the cops for you what I think of you. Please all
>> the cops I already have your false allegations in writing and you have
>> only some of my files. Can you think of any reason why I shouldn't sue
>> you personally someday after we argue professionally?
>>
>> Veritas Vincit
>> Davidraymond Amos
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Eidt, David (OAG/CPG) David.Eidt@gnb.ca
>> wrote:
>>
>> Mr. Amos,
>>
>> You sent me two pieces of email on March 24, 2008. They have nothing
>> to do with me either personally or professionally. Please note that
>> your correspondence is unwanted. Any further such communications will
>> be considered harassing in nature. Please do not send me any more of
>> your communications.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> David Eidt
>> Legal Services
>> Office of the Attorney General
>> Tel: (506) 453-3964
>> Fax: (506) 453-3275
>> david.eidt@gnb.ca
>>
>> Notice : CONFIDENTIAL and PRIVILEGED. This document contains
>> privileged and confidential information and should not be distributed
>> or copied to anyone without prior consultation with the author. Thank
>> you.
>>
>> Avis : CONFIDENTIEL et PRIVILÉGIÉ. Ce document contient des
>> renseignements privilégiés et confidentiels et ne devrait être copié
>> ou circulé sans consultation préalable avec l'auteur. Merci.
>>
>> From: Advocacy Collective advocacycollective@yahoo.com
>> Subject: Charles LeBlanc Website Post - NB Justice Minister Burke
>> Defending False Conviction
>> To:
>> Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 4:05 PM
>>
>> I am personally aware of another very similar case involving the same
>> prosecutor-turned-judge, and so I have little reason to doubt that
>> this man helped to have Mr. Walsh wrongly convicted. Maybe instead of
>> looking into Walsh's track record, T.J. Burke should look into the
>> track records of his own prosecutors and appointed judges. We could
>> also look into Mr. Burke's own criminal past, since I understand that
>> he has been convicted of at least one offence. He is also arguably
>> guilty of obstruction of justice, not just in the Walsh case, but in
>> my own case, where he has refused to do anything about his own
>> department effectively banning me from court in order to maintain my
>> wrongful conviction for contempt of court. This is an issue of
>> corruption and hypocrisy that is much larger than Mr. Walsh's almost
>> certain wrongful conviction.
>> - Vaughn Barnett
>>
>> First the Irving's Rags write this about the doings between T.J. Burke
>> and I last year. have my blog and emails killed then sing your praises
>> about your legal Bullshit next year? Have alook for yourself lady
>>
>> Threat against Burke taken seriously
>>
>> By STEPHEN LLEWELLYN
>> dgleg@nb.aibn.com
>> Published Thursday May 24th, 2007
>> Appeared on page A1
>> An RCMP security detail has been guarding Justice Minister and
>> Attorney General T.J. Burke because of threats made against him
>> recently.
>>
>> Burke, the Liberal MLA for Fredericton-Fort Nashwaaksis, wouldn't
>> explain the nature of the threats.
>>
>> "I have had a particular individual or individuals who have made
>> specific overtures about causing harm towards me," he told reporters
>> Wednesday.
>>
>> "The RCMP has provided security to me recently by accompanying me to a
>> couple of public functions where the individual is known to reside or
>> have family members in the area," said Burke. "It is nice to have some
>> added protection and that added comfort."
>>
>> The RCMP provides protection to the premier and MLAs with its VIP
>> security
>> unit.
>>
>> Burke didn't say when the threat was made but it's believed to have
>> been in recent weeks.
>>
>> "When a threat is posed to you and it is a credible threat, you have
>> to be cautious about where you go and who you are around," he said.
>> "But again, I am more concerned about my family as opposed to my own
>> personal safety."
>>
>> Burke said he doesn't feel any differently and he has not changed his
>> pattern of activity.
>>
>> "It doesn't bother me one bit," he said. "It makes my wife feel awful
>> nervous."
>>
>> Burke served in an elite American military unit before becoming a
>> lawyer and going into politics in New Brunswick.
>>
>> "(I) have taken my own precautions and what I have to do to ensure my
>> family's safety," he said. "I am a very cautious person in general due
>> to my background and training.
>>
>> "I am comfortable with defending myself or my family if it ever had to
>> happen."
>>
>> Burke said it is not uncommon for politicians to have security concerns.
>>
>> "We do live unfortunately in an age and in a society now where threats
>> have to be taken pretty seriously," he said.
>>
>> Since the terrorism attacks in the United States on Sept. 11, 2001,
>> security in New Brunswick has been
>> beefed up.
>>
>> Metal detectors were recently installed in the legislature and all
>> visitors are screened.
>>
>> The position of attorney general is often referred to as the
>> province's "top cop."
>>
>> Burke said sometimes people do not differentiate between his role as
>> the manager of the justice system and the individual who actually
>> prosecutes them.
>>
>> "With the job sometimes comes threats," he said. "I have had numerous
>> threats since Day 1 in office."
>>
>> Burke said he hopes his First Nations heritage has nothing to do with it.
>>
>> "I think it is more of an issue where people get fixated on a matter
>> and they believe you are personally responsible for assigning them
>> their punishment or their sanction," he said.
>>
>> Is the threat from someone who was recently incarcerated?
>>
>> "I probably shouldn't answer that," he replied.
>>
>> Reporters asked when the threat would be over.
>>
>> "I don't think a threat ever passes once it has been made," said
>> Burke. "You have to consider the credibility of the source."
>>
>> Bruce Fitch, former justice minister in the Conservative government,
>> said "every now and again there would be e-mails that were not
>> complimentary."
>>
>> "I did have a meeting with the RCMP who are in charge of the security
>> of the MLAs and ministers," said Fitch.
>>
>> "They look at each and every situation."
>>
>> Fitch said he never had bodyguards assigned to him although former
>> premier Bernard Lord and former health minister Elvy Robichaud did
>> have extra security staff assigned on occasion.
>>
>> He said if any MLA felt threatened, he or she would discuss it with the
>> RCMP.
>>
>> Group studies its legal options
>> Early immersion | Reversal of decision wanted ASAP
>> By JENNIFER DUNVILLE
>> dunville.jennifer@
>> Published Tuesday April 8th, 2008
>> Appeared on page A1
>>
>>
>> "Lafleur, Lou" lou.lafleur@fredericton.ca wrote:
>>
>> From: "Lafleur, Lou" lou.lafleur@fredericton.ca
>> To: "'motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com'" motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com,
>> "Lafleur, Lou" lou.lafleur@fredericton.ca
>> Subject: Fredericton Police Force
>> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:21:13 -0300
>>
>> Dear Mr. Amos
>>
>> My Name is Lou LaFleur and I am a Detective with the Fredericton
>> Police Major Crime Unit. I would like to talk to you regarding files
>> that I am investigating and that you are alleged to have involvement
>> in.
>>
>> Please call me at your earliest convenience and leave a message and a
>> phone number on my secure and confidential line if I am not in my
>> office.
>>
>> yours truly,
>>
>> Cpl. Lou LaFleur
>> Fredericton Police Force
>> 311 Queen St.
>> Fredericton, NB
>> 506-460-2332
>>
>> ______________________________
>>
>> This electronic mail, including any attachments, is confidential and
>> is for the sole use of the intended recipient and may be privileged.
>> Any unauthorized distribution, copying, disclosure or review is
>> prohibited. Neither communication over the Internet nor disclosure to
>> anyone other than the intended recipient constitutes waiver of
>> privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, please immediately
>> notify the sender and then delete this communication and any
>> attachments from your computer system and records without saving or
>> forwarding it. Thank you.
>>
>> Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 07:56:09 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: "David Amos" motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>> Subject: Who says they are ignoring me Chucky? Ask Barry McKnight why
>> the Yankees are researching him
>> To: news@dailygleaner.com, kcarmichael@bloomberg.net,
>> oldmaison@yahoo.com, advocacycollective@yahoo.com,
>> Easter.W@parl.gc.ca, Comartin.J@parl.gc.ca, cityadmin@fredericton.ca,
>> info@gg.ca, bmosher@mosherchedore.ca, rchedore@mosherchedore.ca,
>> police@fredericton.ca, chebert@thestar.ca, Stoffer.P@parl.gc.ca,
>> Stronach.B@parl.gc.ca, Matthews.B@parl.gc.ca, alltrue@nl.rogers.com,
>> Harper.S@parl.gc.ca, Layton.J@parl.gc.ca, Dryden.K@parl.gc.ca,
>> Duceppe.G@parl.gc.ca
>> CC: brad.woodside@fredericton.ca, whalen@fredericton.ca,
>> david.kelly@fredericton.ca, cathy.maclaggan@fredericton.ca
>> stephen.kelly@fredericton.ca, tom.jellinek@fredericton.ca,
>> scott.mcconaghy@fredericton.ca
>> walter.brown@fredericton.ca, norah.davidson@fredericton.ca,
>> mike.obrien@fredericton.ca, bruce.grandy@fredericton.ca,
>> dan.keenan@fredericton.ca, jeff.mockler@gnb.ca,
>> mrichard@lawsociety-barreau.
>> jlmockler@mpor.ca, scotta@parl.gc.ca, michael.bray@gnb.ca,
>> jack.e.mackay@gnb.ca
>>
>> Just Dave
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>>
>> charles leblanc oldmaison@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>> Where are ya living now???? Since the media seem to ignore ya? I'll
>> sit down for a debate with a recorder for the blog...Now? Don't get
>> all exicted and send this all over the world.....lol
>>
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