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Whatever these Premiers claim about Health Care cannot ring true with me as they continue to ignore the fact that I have been denied the right to Health Care for years merely because I am their political foe.



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https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/premiers-budget-fix-national-unity-1.5381166

With national unity under stress, premiers back a budget fix to help oil-rich provinces

Premiers united in calling on Ottawa to reform fiscal stabilization program, boost health care spending

 

John Paul Tasker · CBC News · Posted: Dec 02, 2019 3:11 PM ET



Canadian premiers pose for a photo after speaking to the media during a meeting of the Council of the Federation, which comprises all 13 provincial and territorial leaders, in Mississauga, Ont. (Nathan Denette/Canadian Press)

Canada's premiers emerged from a day of meetings Monday united and with a list of demands for Prime Minister Justin Trudeau that includes a more generous federal health transfer and a radical rethink to the fiscal stabilization program that helps provinces facing a short-term cash crunch.

The premiers gathered in Toronto to meet after a fractious federal election campaign that returned a minority Liberal government with no representation from Alberta and Saskatchewan, two resource-based provinces that have been grappling with a commodity price slump that has blown out big fiscal holes.

The premiers are proposing Ottawa bolster the stabilization program to help cover some of those budget shortfalls by removing per capita limits on the money available to provinces. The premiers also said Ottawa should consider retroactive payments from such a program to make the provinces whole.

The current program, which is administered by Finance Minister Bill Morneau, provides financial assistance to any province faced with a year-over-year decline in its non-resource revenues greater than five per cent.

However, the money available to eligible provinces is capped at just $60 per resident — something Alberta Premier Jason Kenney says is inadequate given the size of the budget deficit the province is facing after oil prices cratered. Last year, Alberta tapped just $250 million from the program while Newfoundland and Labrador received about $8 million. Lifting the cap would flow more money to provinces in need.

"This is a tremendous moment of solidarity," Alberta Premier Jason Kenney said. "I have been trying to convey to Albertans that we are not alone or isolated in the federation. There are provincial and territorial governments that get what we're going through and understand our ask for a fair deal."

"The fact that these colleagues have put a spotlight on one particular issue [fiscal stabilization] that means a lot to those of us who are going through a period of prolonged downturns — it means a lot to us," Kenney said.


Alberta Premier Jason Kenney says he is happy that all of Canada's premiers were willing to put a spotlight on an issue that means a lot for provinces going through prolonged economic downturns. 2:16

Moe seconded Kenney saying he was thankful that premiers agreed to endorse a program that could help his province. "The people of Saskatchewan are very appreciative of your efforts here today," he said to other premiers.

"Alberta, Saskatchewan and Newfoundland and Labrador are in very difficult circumstances with the rapid drop in oil and resource revenues and we're all asking the federal government to improve this program to provide more support to those provinces," Quebec Premier François Legault said.

Ontario Premier Doug Ford said while the 13 provinces and territories may have their differences, Canada is united. "We're a united nation. When some of the provinces are struggling we're all there.

We're going to be there, we support them, and we're going to have their backs. It wasn't too long ago Ontario was taking equalization," Ford said.


Ontario Premier Doug Ford said health-care funding is a top priority for premiers gathered at the Council of the Federation meeting in Toronto. (Evan Mitsui/CBC News)

Beyond the stabilization fix, the premiers have also agreed to ask Ottawa to bolster the country's economic competitiveness by "improving" Bill C-69, the Liberal government's controversial overhaul of the environmental assessment act. The premiers want Ottawa to exempt some projects that fall under provincial jurisdiction — most importantly in-situ oilsands projects in Alberta — from a mandatory federal review.

The federal Liberal government has said it would consider exempting new oilsands developments if Kenney maintains a cap on emissions from the sector.

The premiers said Canada must continue to develop its natural resources in a "responsible manner and ensure access to markets for Canada's products" — a thinly-veiled reference to pipeline projects that will carry Canada's oil and gas to markets abroad.

While B.C. Premier John Horgan and Legault have long opposed some pipeline developments, the two said Monday that the meeting was not focused on divisive issues.

Horgan said B.C. would continue to pursue legal action against the Trans Mountain pipeline expansion, which has been approved twice by the federal Liberal government and is now owned by a federal Crown corporation. Legault has said he'd oppose a project like the now-defunct Energy East, which would have carried diluted bitumen from the West through Quebec to Saint John, N.B.

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On the economic front, the premiers also demanded Ottawa tackle protectionist measures in the U.S., so-called "Buy America" provisions that prioritize U.S. companies for major infrastructure projects to the detriment of Canadian businesses, but also the ongoing softwood lumber dispute that has hurt provinces like B.C. and New Brunswick among others.

Premiers say health care is in crisis

The premiers said health care in Canada has reached a crisis point and the federal government needs to do much more to help provinces pay for their largest budget line item.

The premiers said Ottawa should lift the current health care spending growth cap — set at three per cent each year — to help provinces.

They said the Canada Health Transfer — the money the federal government sends to the provinces and territories to help them pay for health care — should grow by 5.2 per cent a year to better address mounting costs in the sector as the country's population ages.

Increasing the growth rate by that amount — a growth rate the independent Conference Board of Canada has suggested would lead to a more equitable cost-sharing agreement — would cost the federal treasury about $1 billion more a year in transfers.

Manitoba Premier Brian Pallister said health wait times have grown over the last three years, according data from the Canadian Institute for Health Information, and Canadians are waiting far too long for surgeries like hip and knee replacements because Ottawa has been slow to send more money to the provinces.

Pallister said Ottawa should park its plan for a national pharmacare plan and instead focus on improving the country's existing health care system.

"Don't start broadening health care when you can't get it right now. Start by getting that right," Pallister said.


Premiers meeting in Toronto today are heading into the meeting with their top priorities hoping to find consensus what what they can bring to the federal government for action. 0:56

The Liberal campaign platform pledged $6 billion over four years in new health spending, with funding earmarked for boosting the number of doctors, a move toward a pharmacare program and an improvement to mental-health services.

If the federal government is determined to move forward with pharmacare, the premiers said the program should be co-developed with the provinces and territories.

The communique also stipulated that federal transfers should include opportunities to opt out with full financial compensation. Kenney said Monday he'd do just that if Ottawa develops a pharmacare program.

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David Amos 
Whatever these Premiers claim about their concerns about Health Care cannot ring true with me as they continue to ignore the fact that I have been denied the right to Health Care for years merely because I am their political foe. Methinks Mr Prime Minister Trudeau The Younger and his political cohorts are gonna enjoy my next lawsuit N'esy Pas? 














David Amos  
Deja Vu for You

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/premiers-meeting-toronto-december-1.5351986

These were the exact words I posted within Twitter at the time

"Methinks the most interesting person who should be attending the meeting with the boyz is the lady from the Northwest Territories Premier Caroline Cochrane N'esy Pas?" 














Donna French
Is it just me or does anyone seem quite skeptical on all of this new brotherly love. Maybe it's just the start of holding the federal gov't hostage? I certainly hope they are sincere, well most of them anyway. I just find it odd and out of character for most of these men.


Steve Vaughan  

Reply to @Donna French: Unprecedented times. An inept and unethical person was re-elected with a minority government. Ridiculousness like that tends to bring others together.

Kat Burd

Reply to @Steve Vaughan: Like when a Contempt of Parliament was rewarded with a majority?

Steve Vaughan  

Reply to @Kat Burd: No, like when a PM who was found guilty of breaking Ethics laws, twice, and gets busted wearing blkfce, 3 times, gets re-elected, because he is the messiah to people like you. And don't bother with the "they are rules not laws derp derp". They ARE laws.

Rob Mccul

Reply to @Steve Vaughan: ridiculous is the new name of the reform party

Steve Vaughan 

Reply to @rob mccull: There is no reform party. Live in the now. son.

David Amos 

Reply to @Donna French: I am very disappointed by the Lady Premier from way up north going along with these dudes

Steve Vaughan  

Reply to @David Amos: She'll be crushed.

David Lugli 

Reply to @Steve Vaughan: there is no conservative party ----cpc is a western protest party --all complaints no solutions

Mitch Glass

Reply to @Steve Vaughan: Kind of lonely leading the charge of the ignorant by yourself huh? When is the email going out to alert the rest of the Wexiters bloggers to come to your defense?

David Amos 

Reply to @Steve Vaughan: Obviously the other dudes were ahead of me N'esy Pas?

David Amos 

Reply to @Kat Burd: Good point

Steve Vaughan  

Reply to @Mitch Glass: No, I'm ok, but thanks for your concern. What's a wexiters bloggers?

Jeff Bourns 

Reply to @Steve Vaughan: Look in a mirror, you will see one!

David Amos 

Reply to @Steve Vaughan: I talked to her staff weeks ago about this upcoming meeting Did You???

Steve Vaughan 

Reply to @Jeff Bourns: Was that a rebuttal? Wow.

Steve Vaughan  

Reply to @David Amos: No you didn't.

David Amos 

Reply to @Steve Vaughan: Methinks everybody knows that I can easily prove it byway of my Twiiter account and my blog N'esy Pas?

Jeff Bourns  

Reply to @Steve Vaughan: This is so rich, calling a person unethical, all while supporting a party that has, cheated in elections, reportedly attempted to bribe a sitting independent MP for their vote, hired on the govt payroll, failed candidates to act as "shadow MP's" to undermine duly elected opposition MP's, and bandied about a decorated veterans private personal and medical information in violation of privacy laws. Yeah, there's great ethics!

Jeff Bourns  

Reply to @Steve Vaughan: I call them as I see them, you're free to mute me if you don't like it.

Steve Vaughan   

Reply to @Jeff Bourns: How many Ethics Laws did Kenney break, Jeff? And how do you know who I "support"?

Steve Vaughan   

Reply to @Jeff Bourns: Um, Ok. Lol!

David Amos 

Reply to @Steve Vaughan: FYI I contacted Kenney and Ford first

David Allan 

Reply to @Donna French:
How can the provinces hold the feds hostage for anything?
These premiers aren't even allowed on the floor of Commons.

David Allan 

Reply to @Steve Vaughan:
"How many Ethics Laws did Kenney break, Jeff? "

Kenney fired the guy investigating laws broken by Kenney.
He's turning the oversight and arms-length role into one that directly reports to Kenney.

Steve Vaughan  

Reply to @David Allan: How many was that, David?

Jeff Bourns 

Reply to @Steve Vaughan: kenney is morally and ethically bankrupt and will do anything for power! Then again you likely think kenney was ethical in claiming his mom's non-existent basement as his primary residence.

Steve Vaughan  

Reply to @Jeff Bourns: Your opinion on other people means nothing to me. How many Laws did the Ethics Commissioner find Kenney guilty of breaking, Jeffery?

Mitch Glass 

Reply to @Jeff Bourns:
I could believe Kenney lives in his mom's basement or at least a cave or even under a rock like SpongeBob's pal Patrick Star.

Steve Vaughan   

Reply to @Mitch Glass: This explains where you get your information from.

David Amos

Reply to @Steve Vaughan: Deja Vu for You

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/premiers-meeting-toronto-december-1.5351986

These were the exact words I posted within Twitter at the time

"Methinks the most interesting person who should be attending the meeting with the boyz is the lady from the Northwest Territories Premier Caroline Cochrane N'esy Pas?"

Jeff Bourns  

Reply to @Steve Vaughan: Thanks for the confirmation that you think his behaviour was ethical, it speaks volumes about you. And who the fudge is Jeffrey?

Mitch Glass 

Reply to @Steve Vaughan:
Who? Kenney's mom? I'm sure she is a nice lady who raised him better than this.

Steve Vaughan    

Reply to @Jeff Bourns: So you can't answer the question. Of course you can't. Lol! You, Jeffrey. You.

Steve Vaughan    

Reply to @Mitch Glass: Kenney's mom? Why are you talking about some guy's mom?

Jeff Bourns   

Reply to @Steve Vaughan: As an fyi cumberground, Jeffrey is NOT how my name is spelt.

Steve Vaughan  
Reply to @Jeff Bourns: Sorry about that Jeffrey.


David Amos
Reply to @Steve Vaughan: Has the cat got your tongue?















Richard Sharp
Reposting: Why doesn't "oil rich" Alberta tap into its Heritage Fund? Oh wait, that was a wasted resource long ago and never fixed. Why doesn't Alberta introduce a sales tax like every other province in the country? Not even under consideration. Why doesn't Alberta at least acknowledge that it is global oil prices that are at the root of its problems, NOT the Trudeau Liberals? Because it's Alberta's Conservatives. 



Jay Schuster
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Reply to @Richard Sharp: 
It went "Poof" before I could save it 


David Amos
Reply to @Jay Schuster: Sharpy is clued in but he must spin it for his liberal buddies At least i know where I stand with all these politicians and am honoured by the fact that they all hate me.


Tanner Moorman
Reply to @David Amos: Good grief, what a sad existence. 


Mo Bennett
Reply to @Richard Sharp: 1000%. and ya can't fix stupid.


David Amos
Reply to @mo bennett: YO MO Methinks you and Sharpy have been on quite a roll spinning for Trudeau while the Premiers gang up against him N'esy Pas? 


David Allan
Reply to @Richard Sharp:
"Why doesn't "oil rich" Alberta tap into its Heritage Fund?"

They want infrastructure, not swimming pools. The Heritage Fund is for swimming pools and luxury condominiums, not infrastructure.

/sarcasmOFFF 
 

David Amos
Reply to @Tanner Moorman: Methinks you should confer with your buddy Sharpy and and his pal Jay Schuster about who is sad and who is not N'esy Pas?


David Amos
Reply to @David Allan: Yea Right


















Roosevelt Smith
As long as Alberta keeps supporting an O&G economy with no PST and more tax cuts to their corporate friends, expect nothing from the rest of Canada.


Jake Wright 

Reply to @Roosevelt Smith: I'm from Calgary and I totally agree. I also don't want Trudeau inadvertently supporting the privatization of health care here. I wouldn't trust Kenney with increased health transfers.

Julia LeBeau 

Reply to @Roosevelt Smith:
Why isn't anyone forcing Quebec to include Hydro Quebec's revenues in their equalization formula? Why are other provinces having to do it?

David Amos
Reply to @Julia LeBeau: Why isn't anyone forcing Quebec to include Hydro Quebec's revenues in their equalization formula? Why are other provinces having to do it?

Good question Well worth repeating


David Amos 

Reply to @Jake Wright: Methinks it would not be wise to trust Kenney to walk a dog let alone run a government N'esy Pas?

Awistoyus Nahasthay
"...the money available to eligible provinces is capped at just $60 per citizen — something Alberta Premier Jason Kenney says is inadequate given the size of the budget deficit the province is facing after oil prices cratered."

But wait, kenney has been telling us it is NOT oil prices that is the problem but access to markets. Now, all of a sudden, the problem IS oil prices?
You wouldn't be trying to "con" us now, would you jason?

David Amos 

Reply to @Awistoyus Nahasthay: Methinks a leopard can't change its spots N'esy Pas?

Terry Alex
Looks like the provinces have taken over the PM's job of unifying Canadians.


David Amos
Reply to @terry alex: Dream on They just have a common foe in Trudeau tis all




















Gabriel Matte
You have to love Alberta asking for more money yet they tax people less than any other province.


Garry Cyr
Reply to @David McNaughton:

It was your boy Kenney who enacted these 'shady' rules.


David Amos
Reply to @Garry Cyr: Methinks Kenney and his cohorts have a very convenient memory just like all politicians N'esy Pas?
























Dale Sullivan
Alberta has no sales tax, and Saskatchewan sales tax is only 6%. These seem to be the two provinces complaining the most. How about Alberta creates a sales tax and Saskatchewan ups their sales tax to 8%.

Van Collins

Reply to @Dale Sullivan:
Income tax increases are a better way of getting taxes from those who can afford to pay them. That said, there's a limit you can tax the rich before they simply hide their money or move.

David Amos

Reply to @Van Collins: YUP