Wednesday 22 September 2021

Dan Murphy, said the cost of policing has been among the top issues for municipalities after the province's planned reforms to local governance.

 

 https://www.facebook.com/MunicipalNB/posts/818700182155001

 

 

 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/rcmp-union-contract-municipalities-1.6143407

 

Municipalities eye impact of RCMP union contract with 23 per cent raise over six years

First collective agreement between federal government, National Police Federation signed this month

The contract signed Aug. 6 between the federal Treasury Board and National Police Federation, the RCMP union, includes retroactive pay increases.

Dan Murphy, executive director of the Union of Municipalities of New Brunswick, said communities are just starting to get the details of the contract. He said the cost of policing has been among the top issues for municipalities after the province's planned reforms to local governance.

"It's kind of an issue that affects smaller municipalities as well as larger municipalities," Murphy said in an interview. "So everyone is kind of grappling with what this could mean, trying to make plans accordingly."

In Moncton, where Codiac Regional RCMP is the largest detachment in the province, $3.5 million had been set aside by the Codiac Regional Policing Authority to cover retroactive payments. The amount was based on an assumed 2.5 per cent annual wage increase, though the actual increase is higher.

"We think there's going to be a shortfall, we just do not know at this point what the amount is," Jacques Doucet, Moncton's chief financial officer, said in an interview Monday evening.

Jacques Doucet, Moncton's chief financial officer shown at a council meeting earlier this year, says they're awaiting information from the RCMP to determine whether enough money had been set aside to cover the wage increase. (Shane Magee/CBC)

Doucet said the details of the contract were received late last week, and its implications are still being analyzed by RCMP and the regional policing authority, which oversees the Mounties who police Moncton, Dieppe and Riverview. 

Doucet said they need to know who was on staff in the previous years, their rank, and who was on leave before a more complete accounting can be done. When that can be done will depend on the RCMP, which has the required payroll information.

The contract covers RCMP reservists and officers below the rank of inspector. It says pay rates will change within 90 days of the agreement being signed.

Union president Brian Sauvé has previously said that his goal was to bring Mountie pay in line with other police agencies. In a statement announcing the tentative agreement in June, Sauvé said RCMP pay "fell significantly behind municipal and provincial police counterparts."

In Fredericton, which has its own police force, a first class constable earned $87,008.66 in 2016, and $97,359.61 in 2020, according to their pay scale.

Under the RCMP's 2016 pay scale, a first class constable would earn $86,110. That rises to to $106,576 by next April. A corporal who made $94,292 in 2016 would see their pay rise to $116,703 next year.

Codiac RCMP Insp. Benoit Joliette, speaking to Moncton council Monday night, acknowledged the new contract and said the force is working to determine its impact. 

"We'll keep working with the three communities to see what the impact will be," Joliette said.

Under the policing contract, Moncton pays about 70 per cent of the $33 million Codiac RCMP budget, with Dieppe paying about 18 per cent and Riverview covering the rest. 

"It's been on our radar for a long time," Moncton Mayor Dawn Arnold said of the salary increase. "We've known it was coming. But as far as the precision of what the implications will be, we don't know those exactly right at this time."

The increase comes as the city has yet to make a decision on whether to go ahead with building a new Codiac RCMP station. The cost, once pegged at $46 million, has risen but the city has not made the new estimate public. 

 

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---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 12:56:52 -0300
Subject: Fwd: Talk of May 18, 2021
To: jbosse3058@gmail.com
Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Sure please excuse my spelling but I will resend it warts and all
Notice that Higgy's computer answered me??

On 6/10/21, Jules Bosse <jbosse3058@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Mr. Amos,
>
> Thank you for your email this morning that confirmed the facts in your talk
> with Mrs Martin on May 18, 2021. By mistake I erased that email. Can you
> please forward me that same email.
>
> Thanks, and have a great day!
>
> Jules Bossé
>


---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2021 15:24:31 -0300
Subject: Re: Talk of May 18, 2021 Higgy can never claim he didn't know
To: Jules Bosse <jbosse3058@gmail.com>
Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>


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---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2021 15:18:11 -0300
Subject: Re: Talk of May 18, 2021
To: jbosse3058@gmail.com, Daniel.J.Allain@gnb.ca, gail.dube@gnb.ca,
mathieu.cassie@gnb.ca, sylvie.martin3@gnb.ca, Martin.Corbett@gnb.ca,
ryan.donaghy@gnb.ca, "denis.bujold" <denis.bujold@gnb.ca>,
Denyse.Smart@gnb.ca, "hugh.flemming" <hugh.flemming@gnb.ca>,
"Mike.Comeau" <Mike.Comeau@gnb.ca>, "andrea.anderson-mason"
<andrea.anderson-mason@gnb.ca>
, "robert.mckee" <robert.mckee@gnb.ca>,
"Ross.Wetmore" <Ross.Wetmore@gnb.ca>, "rob.moore"
<rob.moore@parl.gc.ca>
Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>, premier <premier@gnb.ca>,
"blaine.higgs" <blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>, Daniel.Allain@gnb.ca,
"jeff.carr" <jeff.carr@gnb.ca>, "fin.minfinance-financemin.
fin"
<fin.minfinance-financemin.fin@canada.ca>

Good Day Mr Bossé

What you has stated is true about ur cnersation on May 18th and I
would be more than willing to sign an affidavit to that effect

Trust that I have very serious concerns about the actions of Premier
Higgs his new Minister Daniel Allain and his many minions

https://www2.gnb.ca/content/gnb/en/contacts/dept_renderer.139.html?orgcontact_start=0&orgcontact_hits=100#employees

As I said I strongly suggest that you print the pdf file hereto attached


Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos

---------- Original message ----------
From: Jules Bosse <jbosse3058@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2021 15:12:31 -0300
Subject: Talk of May 18, 2021
To: david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com

Hi Mr. Amos,

Following the following interview on the morning of May 18th, you undertook
to contact me: CBC St-John May 18:
https://www.cbc.ca/listen/live-radio/1-28-information-morning-saint-john/clip/15843684-lsd-reps-share-thoughts-reform

In reference to the summary of the conversation you had with Mrs. Sylvie
Martin from the office of the local LSD manager in Edmundston where she
would have informed you in an affirmative way that I will no longer be in
position on the advisory committee of my LSD after May 31st.  You then gave
me her phone number (735-2763) to confirm that we were talking about the
same person.

As part of a province-wide file, the New Brunswick Association of Local
Service Districts (ALSDNB ), a file is being compiled to identify as many
irregularities as possible in reference to these makeshift elections under
section 170(2) of the Local Government Act. To that effect, please confirm
our discussion of May 18th and add any other details you deem relevant.

Thank you for your cooperation and your interest in the fairness of our
democratic system.

Jules Bossé
President of the ALSDNB
735-7214

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This is proof that I sent emails to Premier Higgs and many others at
the the same point in time which I forwarded to you in its entirety
after we talked again correct?


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---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 09:06:50 -0300
Subject: Fwd: Hey Higgy Methinks Dorothy Shephard must admit that
Dependable Public Health Care begins with a Medicare Card instead of
having her nasty minions inviting me to sue her in order to get one Correct?
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Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>, mcu <mcu@justice.gc.ca>


Here is proof that I had concerns about the doings within my LSD long
before I ran again in Fundy Royal during the election of the 43rd
Parliament


https://twitter.com/DavidRayAmos/with_replies


David Raymond Amos‏ @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos @Kathryn98967631 and 49 others
Methinks it would be interesting to see what Minister Bernadette
Jordan thinks of this spit and chew about our garbage We already know
what Rob Moore the wannabe MP again thinks of her new position N'esy
Pas?


https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/03/province-helps-mend-rift-between.html


#nbpoli #cdnpoli


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/regional-service-board-training-1.5049486


Province helps mend rift between communities after service commission dissolved
Board serving 18 towns and rural communities in Sussex-Hampton
dissolved last month amid budget dispute

Connell Smith · CBC News · Posted: Mar 11, 2019 5:00 AM AT


Photo
The waste transfer station in Sussex maintained by Regional Service
Commission 8. The facility is at the heart of a dispute that pits
rural communities against the region's incorporated communities. (RSC
8)

The Department of Local Government will arrange training and mediation
to help mend a rift between the towns and many rural communities in
the greater Sussex-Hampton area.

The volunteer board serving that region's service commission was
dissolved by Local Government Minister Jeff Carr in early February
after it became hopelessly divided over the 2019 budget.

Brenda Knight, a retired municipal administrator, has been appointed
trustee to oversee operations in the board's stead.

On March 5, Knight approved a budget for the commission, which will be
presented to representatives of the four municipalities and 14 local
service districts in coming weeks.

In the meantime, Erika Jutras, a Department of Local Government
spokeswoman, said the trustee will remain in place until either
members "demonstrate" they can work together or the next municipal
elections in May 2020, whichever comes first.

Division over solid waste costs

The board split last fall over how solid waste management costs were
to be divided between the towns and unincorporated rural communities,
called local service districts.

Many of the board members representing LSDs feel they are paying too
much for waste management.

Mary Ann Coleman chairs the LSD Advisory Committee for Waterford,
which has a population of approximately 500.

    Minister removed member of Sussex-area commission after harassment complaint

    Service commission fired after months of deadlock over budget

She says costs should be allocated strictly on how waste is generated
by each community.

The current cost formula involves a combination of a levee on the
amount of trash collected and a fixed amount for each community that
is dedicated to providing stable funding for the region's waste
transfer station in Sussex.

"It's important in my mind that we keep the costs of services, as much
as we can, down for people," said Coleman.

"This has an impact on the taxes for people in rural areas."

She says the costs to operate the waste transfer station should be
taken entirely from tipping fees, which would cost the towns more and
the LSDs less.

Proposed budget 'didn't suit' some municipalities

James McCrea was chair of the service commission board at the time it
was dissolved.

McCrea, who is from the LSD of Wickham, says the costs are not being
distributed fairly, based on trash volumes alone, and that goes
against the intent of regulations set out by the province.

"It was a fair budget, it was a really good budget that was proposed.
But it didn't suit some of the municipalities and a couple of the
local service districts," said McCrea.

Photo
James McCrea was chair of the board for Regional Service District 8
when it was dissolved by the province in February. He represents
Wickham LSD Advisory Committee. (Maria Jose Burgos, CBC)

Speaking to CBC last month, Sussex Mayor Marc Thorne said the budget
proposed by the LSDs threatened the future of the region's waste
transfer station and recycling operations because the station requires
stable funding year-to-year while trash volumes fluctuate.

McCrea says in asking for the change to the funding formula the rural
communities are not trying to threaten the viability of the transfer
station.

"There's never been a problem existed that can't be dealt with and
fixed, but everyone has to work together and share the costs."
About the Author

Connell Smith
Reporter
Connell Smith is a reporter with CBC in Saint John. He can be reached
at 632-7726 Connell.smith@cbc.ca


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David Amos
Methinks it would be interesting to see what Bernadette Jordan
Canada’s inaugural minister of rural economic development thinks of
this spit and chew about our garbage We already know what our former
MP thinks of her position N'esy Pas?

New rural development minister is first female Nova Scotia MP named to
federal cabinet
By Holly McKenzie-Sutter The Canadian Press January 14, 2019 3:07 pm

"Rob Moore, Conservative shadow minister for Atlantic Canada, wished
Jordan well with her new portfolio, but questioned Trudeau’s motives
so close to October’s federal election.

Moore said the new portfolio “appears to just be a communications
exercise” that may stand for too little, too late.

“It appears to be just to give off the impression that they’re
connected or concerned with Atlantic issues, when in fact the last
three years tells us that Atlantic and rural issues are on the
backburner,” Moore said.

Trudeau’s cabinet came under fire from some Atlantic Canadians when
Navdeep Bains, a Mississauga MP, was put in charge of the Atlantic
Canada Opportunities Agency.

Criticism also followed when New Brunswick MP Dominic LeBlanc was
shuffled out of the Fisheries portfolio to be replaced with Jonathan
Wilkinson, who represents North Vancouver.

Jordan said Monday the government has a genuine commitment to rural Canada.

“I think it’s an unfortunate thing that people don’t consider rural
important, because rural is extremely important to this government,
we’re showing that,” she said."



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How to participate

We want to hear from you and ask you to collaborate in the process. Based on your feedback, we will bring those ideas and bring forward a plan for reform in fall 2021.

World Café Community Roundtables

New Brunswickers are invited to participate in a series of eight in-person world café community roundtable discussions about the next steps in local governance reform.  Each of the sessions below link to the event registration page.  Note that there is very limited capacity for each, therefore we ask that only one person per household attend.  Also note that once a session has reached the capacity allowed for registrants, it will no longer be available.  Only participants who have registered will be allowed to attend the session. Please be advised that attendees will be required to wear a mask at all times during the session. Please bring your mask. We will have masks on-hand in the event you forget to bring your own. Registrants will be required to show proof of vaccination starting September 22 in order to be admitted to the session.

 

What we heard

 

 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/local-governance-reform-new-brunswick-1.6169506

 

'Little consensus' on how to reform local governance, report says

Province issues report summarizing input from more than 1,100 people on proposed changes

The Progressive Conservatives committed to overhaul the local governance system that has remained largely the same since the Equal Opportunity Program in the 1960s.

The reform effort launched this year with a series of consultations mostly held online because of the pandemic.

The 18-page "what we heard" report doesn't say how the province will proceed with reforms, details that are expected to be part of a future "white paper" this fall.

Instead, the report offers brief summaries of input from around 1,100 people who took part in 25 meetings in recent months, as well as online surveys completed by more than 1,200 people.

'Little consensus on the right approach'

"While the general consensus was that reform needs to happen, there was little consensus on the right approach," the report states. 

In general, the report says participants said the province has too many local governance entities, that changes are required to the property tax and assessment systems to make them fairer and increase transparency, and establish local representation for local service districts where the province makes decisions.

The province has 340 local entities, including eight cities, 26 towns, 61 villages, eight rural communities, one regional municipality and 236 local service districts, a previous report issued ahead of the consultations states.

Daniel Allain, the province's minister of local governance reform, has said he wants to ensure those living in rural areas where there's no municipal or local government have elected representation empowered to make decisions for their area. 

In an interview, Allain said the white paper with the province's approach should be released in November or December, with some of the legislation to implement reforms expected to be introduced this year.

"I think right now we're still looking at pretty much everything," Allain said when asked if any options are no longer being considered based on the consultations.

He said the province wants more feedback on some subjects. It plans to hold eight additional in-person consultation meetings between Sept. 14 and Sept. 29.

Asked if the province is ruling out forced amalgamations, Allain said nothing has been ruled out. 

"Forcing amalgamations is a subject which people ask me every time," he said. "'Are you going to force us to amalgamate and are you going to raise my taxes?'

"The question is yes and no. At the end of the day, we're not going to force people to do anything they don't want, but we know one thing: We have to reduce the number of entities in New Brunswick."

The report highlights areas where it says local leaders are already discussing restructuring. Those include:

  • Village of Stanley and the local service districts of Saint Mary's, Estey's Bridge, and Stanley.
  • Local service districts of Douglas, Keswick Ridge, Bright, and a portion of the local service district of Queensbury.
  • Town of Caraquet, Village of Bas Caraquet, Village of Bertrand, Village of Maisonnette, Village of Grande-Anse, Village of Saint-Léolin, the local service districts of Pokesudie, Saint-Simon, Blanchard Settlement, Évangéline, Poirier, Dugas, Anse Bleue, and a portion of the local service districts of Pokemouche, Landry Office, parish of Caraquet, and New Bandon. 
  • Town of Grand Falls, Village of Drummond, and the rural community of St. André.
  • City of Campbellton, Town of Dalhousie, local service districts of McLeods, Dalhousie Junction, Pointe la Nim, and a portion of the local service district of Dalhousie.
  • Rural community of Cocagne and the local service districts of Grande-Digue, Shediac River and Dundas.
  • Village of Alma, Village of Riverside-Albert and Village of Hillsborough and the local service districts of Hillsborough, Harvey, Hopewell and Alma. Alternatively, there are discussions to combine those communities with the Town of Riverview.
  • Village of St. Martins with the local service districts of Simonds, Fairfield and St. Martins.
  • Village of Bath, Town of Florenceville-Bristol, Village of Centreville, local service districts of Glassville, Upper Kent, Wicklow, Peel, Wilmot, Lakeville and portions of the local service districts of Aberdeen, Kent and Simonds.

Jules Bossé, president of the Association of Local Service Districts of NB, says the group supports the return of elected representation in LSDs. (Radio-Canada)

A group representing local service districts recently released a report saying its members support changes to LSD governance.

"We agree with reform, but it has to be well done and it meets all of the needs to be fulfilled," said Jules Bossé, president of the Association of Local Service Districts of NB. 

Bosse said the group is also seeking more clarity on where revenues collected by the province are spent, particularly when it comes to roads. 

"We all want to pay our fair share, but we feel we pay more than our fair share for the roads," he said.

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Shawn Tabor                                                                                                                                         Taxes have to go up. It’s truly not rocket science. Me and just alittle of me, and you know what the other folks have. Me deserves that. Ever hear of the saying,” I pay my taxes so me deserves that. “That being said “ love that line. LOL. We have the most government workers per population in the western Hemisphere. Have a great safe day and weekend.

Richard Ames                                                                                                                                       Reply to @Shawn Tabor: I think the answer to the high number of public servants is to first find out what the hell they are all doing (our services are sub par), then get rid of the positions that are not necessary to deliver services effectively. It is not just to raise taxes. Taxes and government don't exist to create jobs for people (who typically know someone in government), they exist to provide services.

 

Blueprint for Suburban and Rural Local Governance Reform in New Brunswick
Submission to the Honourable Daniel Allain,
Minister For Local Governance And Reform

Association of Local Service Districts of NB September, 2021

Mission
The Association of Local Service Districts of NB recognizes the unique and important way of life established in New Brunswick’s unincorporated areas (LSDs) and therefore acts as a voice to defend the common economic, political and social interests of residents to government, while working to promote growth for strong regional engaged communities

Report compiled and edited by
Jules Bosse, Master’s of Education Administration, President, ALSDNB
Kim Reeder, Master’s of Environmental Management, Member of ALSDNB

Blueprint for Suburban and Rural Local Governance Reform in NB ALSDNB September 2021

Contents

 
A. INTRODUCTION ............................................................................................... 5
B. STATEMENT OF PRINCIPLES ........................................................................ .6
C. LOCAL GOVERNANCE ................................................................................... 7
1. Structure ............................................................................................................... 7
2. Collaboration ....................................................................................................... 8
3. Land use planning ............................................................................................... 9
4. Finance ................................................................................................................ 9
4.1 Taxation ............................................................................................................ 9
4.2 Roads .................................................................................................................10
D. CONCLUSION ..................................................................................................10
E. REFERENCES ....................................................................................................14
Appendix A ..............................................................................................................15

 

A. INTRODUCTION
This submission from the Local Service District Association of New Brunswick (ALSDNB) is made after extensive consultations with LSD residents throughout the province. This document reflects the most commonly heard messages from LSD residents over the past year. These consultations have allowed us to identify current trends in the state of LSD management, its effects on residents and options that have potential to advance suburban and rural local governance and service delivery. These options must be further verified by each LSD, as no two are the same.


We note that this submission is also consistent with one of the identified purposes of the Green Paper, which calls for a reduction in the number of administrative entities from 236 to between 20 and 30 local governance units for suburban and rural areas province-wide.


Many of the residents of unincorporated New Brunswick consider it a priority to maintain and promote the unique lifestyle and environment of their communities. The areas known as local service districts are home to a large community of interest representing nearly 33% of New Brunswick's population and over 80% of the land area. These residents expect a local governance structure based on their needs, priorities, principles and challenges. Therefore, the ALSDNB advocates for a decentralization of legislative and administrative power expressed in a suburban and rural governance structure. The following statements and structures have been developed by and are therefore culturally appropriate and applicable only to a suburban and rural governance model (hereafter referred to as the LSD governance unit). This plan is relevant to all rural and suburban residents, regardless of demographics, ancestry or language profile. 


 B. STATEMENT OF PRINCIPLES


1. Right to Democracy
Restore the right to vote for local representation through independent and impartial elections under the responsibility of Elections NB, in accordance with the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, which has not been possible since the 1970s.


2. Interest-Based Governance Units
Based on extensive discussions with LSD residents to date, each local governance unit would be composed entirely of elected representatives of suburban and rural residents.


3. Fair property tax rates and local governance
Local regulation of property tax rates and the receipt of a fair share of current (equalization/gas tax) and future funding from various federal and provincial grant mechanisms are essential to the advancement of local governance in the province.

 

C. LOCAL GOVERNANCE


The following section attempts to summarize the extensive consultation with LSD residents across the province on the 4 pillars outlined in the Green Paper. Additional feedback from LSD residents on each of the 4 pillars can be found in Appendix A.


1. Structure
Aspects of the Green Paper included in options D and E best reflect the vision of consulted LSD residents:


D. Opportunity: Create new or reconfigured local governance entities
The Province could establish new or reconfigured local governance entities, based on minimum tax base and population criteria, that reflect broader communities of interest...


E. Option: Combine LSDs into local government entities
Combine LSDs only into larger local government entities, with the Rural Community being the preferred model...


A statement which more accurately represents the LSD vision, and combines opportunities D and E is as follows;


Establish new or reconfigured local governance entities, which would be based on minimum tax base and population criteria (D), composed entirely of LSD representatives (E).


As with an electoral district, which is superimposed on existing boundaries, there is no need to eliminate or merge LSDs. Nor is it necessary to establish common boundaries and no plebiscite is required. It is only necessary to define communities of interest (similar to an electoral district) and to ensure democratic representation


The following section attempts to summarize the extensive consultation with LSD residents across the province on the 4 pillars outlined in the Green Paper. Additional feedback from LSD residents on each of the 4 pillars can be found in Appendix A(mayor and council or board of directors) in a local and regional decision-making process.
• Each local governance unit will be responsible for the sound financial management and administration of basic services such as fire, police, solid waste and recycling collection, lighting, animal control, etc., which are currently the responsibility of the LSD Regional Manager's Office and the Regional Services Board (RSB).
• Land use planning is an excellent example where the LSD and regional governance entities need to collaborate.
• Once the LSD governance districts have been established and elections have been held, the LSD governance units will develop service benchmarks based on the needs of suburban and/or rural areas, based on LSD priorities, principles and challenges. These service benchmarks will be reviewed at regular intervals, based on changing demographics and other inherent factors.


2. Collaboration

 
The democratic deficit, resulting from the absence of a democratic electoral system since the 1970s, has had a restrictive effect on the power of LSDs to collaborate regionally.
• It is expected that the creation of elected and therefore accountable LSD governance units, with their own budgets in each region, would energize and increase collaboration between communities.
• Credible data and evidence of economic, social, cultural or environmental benefit for all parties, must be the basis of regional collaboration
• For each collaborative regional service delivery initiative or responsibility, the cost components (use, population, land area or other component) must be identified and appropriately allocated in cost and benefit-sharing agreements

 

3. Land use planning

 
Land use planning can only succeed if democratic representation is in place and if planning is based on integration of the natural, social, cultural and economic environment, rather than artificial political boundaries placed on a map.
• We must also recognize the unique attributes of suburban and rural areas which challenge the urban dominated planning approach.
• Land use plans that affect the LSD area must be developed with democratically elected suburban and rural decision makers.
• An inventory of existing rural plans and land-use regulations in the LSDs will be necessary. Some by-laws will need to be revised and others will need to be developed by subject matter experts for each territory under the direction of each LSD governance unit.

 

4. Finance
Transparency of financial statements of revenues and expenditures should be required for all levels of government and service delivery agents.


4.1 Taxation
• Fair and effective taxation does not start with LSD residents subsidizing municipalities, landlords, second home owners and business property taxes, without their deliberate choice to do so. 


4.2 Roads

 
• The main users of rural transport infrastructure are business and industry in general and, to a lesser extent, LSD residents.
• However, it is solely the residents of owner-occupied LSD properties, representing 33% of the New Brunswick population, who contribute 46.5% of the cost of local and regional road services.
• The components of road infrastructure costs (use, population, land area, etc.) must be identified and appropriately allocated in cost and benefit-sharing agreements.
• Due consideration must be given to the fact that LSD residents also contribute to municipal and provincial road and infrastructure projects through the distribution of provincial and federal taxes and, more specifically, through the asymmetrical distribution of the Gas Tax Fund.
• This reform must provide solutions, transparent accounting and fairness for tax payers in the management of road infrastructure.


D. CONCLUSION

 
Over the past year, LSD residents have been developing a blueprint for a suburban and rural governance structure. While the provincial government and municipal associations have had access to funding for their participation in the reform process, the LSD efforts have not. Our investment has been significant, with a big learning curve. By meeting and discussing issues from across the province, we have confirmed that the realities of local governance and service delivery vary considerably from region to region. Therefore, as noted in the introduction, this blueprint can only serve as a guide, and the need for a thorough discussion with each LSD, not just those represented on the Regional Services Commission Boards, will be necessary if New Brunswick is to prosper.


Within our learning process, one main discovery, consistent across the province, is that a fair and collaborative process of local governance reform appears to be missing. However, we believe that the process can be improved if it is injected with transparent social, environmental and economic accountability, as well as additional meaningful consultation with all LSDs, not solely those representatives which sit on RSC boards.


With regard to the financial pillar, we need accessible and transparent accounting and a shared understanding of the management of LSD revenues, especially with respect to the distribution of federal and provincial funding. To be productive partners in local governance reform we also need the opportunity to view and provide feedback on any proposed distribution of cost and benefit components for new governance and service delivery models, and their relationship to taxation.


With respect to road infrastructure, we need to see the distribution of use and cost components, and how they are reflected in taxation.


The values, productivity and contributions of suburban and rural residents to the stewardship of ecosystem services and nature-based recreation must be attributed.
As we have seen recently with the global pandemic, New Brunswick must become increasingly self-sufficient, and our way to do this is to invest in and encourage social and economic diversity throughout the province.


There is every indication that the lack of democratic governance of the LSDs, coupled with the centralization of power and services, has contributed to a decline in food self-sufficiency, the virtual disappearance of the cooperative movement, and an economy that is less diversified and accessible to LSD residents - in short, a general impoverishment of the province. In addition to the effects on the economy, this major democratic failure has also had effects on the deterioration of health services and a decrease in access to justice services; particularly affecting LSD residents.


Today's LSDs are communities of interest that must not only be preserved as part of our heritage, but also promoted and provided their fair share of investment dollars which will work to to rebuild the foundation of a sustainable and thriving New Brunswick economy. New Brunswickers recognize that it is the land base of LSDs that provides flood mitigation services, food, and our connection to and respect for nature, all of which are essential to a prosperous future.


Reform must recognize that municipalities benefit from the activities within LSDs. LSDs are an important and essential part of New Brunswick's economic supply chain and environmental "insurance". Due to the obvious lack of transparency in the province's financial statements, the failure to recognize the volunteer infrastructure of LSDs related to outdoor recreation, and the disregard for the ecosystem services provided in the LSD land base, LSDs have come to be viewed as the "weak link" in society, when in fact they are the crown jewel. The success of this reform relies on the availability of credible, good quality data, from which to base analysis and decisions.


Reform must also recognise that the LSD landscape is not just about resource extraction - an ideal NB has intensely and almost exclusively supported for too long. For example, camp leases on Crown land provide more revenue to provincial coffers than clear-cutting the same spaces every 40-60 years. Reform is the perfect opportunity to examine and reconcile disparities related to costs and benefits of diverse and often competing, economic sectors, with the goal of benefiting all New Brunswickers.

LSD residents also call on the federal government to fulfill its responsibility to ensure that equalization and gas tax transfers are accessible and contribute to the well-being and development of all segments of the population, including the 33% of LSD residents. The contributions of LSD residents to these funds have not been redistributed equitably. Access to these revenues has been limited by biased and selective criteria.


Genuine collaboration, and therefore positive outcomes from local governance reform, must recognize and mitigate the lack of transparency and literacy in the province's finances, which has not been resolved, and will lead to continued bias in the local governance reform process. 


E. REFERENCES

 
ADSLNB. 2021. Reaction to the Green Paper, Brief presented as part of the reform of local governance in New Brunswick after extensive consultation with LSD residents.


Finn, Jean-Guy. 2008. Building Sustainable Local Governments and Regions: An Action Plan for the Future of Local Governance in New Brunswick. Report of the Commissioner on the Future of Local Governance.


Government of New Brunswick. 2020-2021. Working Together to Build Vibrant and Sustainable Communities, Green Paper.


Leclerc, André and Pierre-Marcel Desjardins. 2021. AFMNB : An in-depth reform for the benefit of all communities.


Taylor, Zack and Jon Taylor. 2021. Representative Regionalization: Toward More Equitable, Democratic, Responsive, and Efficient Local Government in New Brunswick. Research Report #4. London, ON: Centre for Urban Policy and Local Governance, Western University. https://ir.lib.uwo.ca/urbancentre-reports/5.

 

Appendix A
The following questions were brought up repeatedly by LSD residents during local governance reform discussion and remained unanswered.
• Is it fair that considering a higher consumption of fuel, the LSD residents (33% of NB) receive less than twenty percent (20%) of the Gas Tax Fund?
• Is it fair that only 9% of the provincial equalization redistribution is administered for the benefit of the 33% of the NB population in LSDs?
Regarding transportation infrastructure, the following questions came up continually.
• How is the provincial transportation tax included in every gasoline purchase managed and distributed?
• How is the tax revenue from recreational fuel and vehicle sales, which operate off-road, primarily on the forested trails of LSDs, managed and distributed?
• How is the tax revenue from the forestry and transportation industries’ fuel and vehicle sales, which travel on local and regional roads, managed and distributed?
 

There were also questions regarding the management of activities and revenues with respect to Crown Lands, which are intended to benefit all New Brunswickers, but have higher impact in the LSDs where they are located.
• How are the revenues from the various types of leases (camp, freshwater/fishing, industrial) on Crown land managed and distributed?
• How are the royalties from logging on Crown land managed and distributed?
• How are the revenues from the sale of hunting, fishing and vehicle licences managed and distributed?

 

 

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Jules & Anne Bossé - Lumber tycoons gone bust


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Our latest Canadian judgment to evaluate and reject an OPCA scenario is Bossé v. Farm Credit Canada, 2014 NBCA 34 (http://canlii.ca/t/g71g0), and this is a very interesting decision on a number of bases. First, it’s an appellate judgment, this time from the New Brunswick Court of Appeal, so it is binding on lower courts in that province. Not that they would likely reach a different result …

Second - we've got documents! Tasty tasty documents!!!

Jules and Anne Doiron Bossé operated a company called Les Entreprises Envirotek Ltée (Envirotek Enterprises Limited). They borrowed a large amount sum from a government agency, Farm Credit Canada, to finance the purchase of a number of what are described as “wood lots”, parcels of land suitable for logging purposes. They defaulted on their loans, and the wood lots were sold at auction.

The Bossés then sued, arguing they had already paid their outstanding debts via documents called “Private Registered Setoff Bonds” that the Bossés say provide for payment from the US Treasury Department. Yes, this is an A4V case where the plaintiffs have sued and appealed claiming their fictitious payment is real.

Unsurprisingly, the Court of Appeal is utterly unimpressed, concludes the Bossés’ lawsuit is frivolous, and worse, just plain stupid (para. 33):
I attach as “Appendix B” some of the documents that were forwarded to FCC in purported satisfaction of the obligations of the Bossés and Envirotek. By themselves, and without the need for any analysis, they illustrate the absurdity of the defence to FCC’s claim. In short, one cannot go to the Internet and produce documents that purport to create obligations upon the United States Treasury and then present these to a creditor and say “here, go try to collect from the US Treasury before you can collect from me that which I owe you.” It would be ludicrous if it were that easy to satisfy a debt.
Oh, did I mention we get document? We get documents! The Court of Appeal attached no less than 26 pages of scanned documents used by the Bossés in their scheme. It’s hard for me to pick a favorite because these are among the most complex OPCA documents disclosed in a reported judgment, outside of Meads v. Meads, 2012 ABQB 571. Though I guess if I had to choose it would be a toss-up between the Private Registered Setoff Bonds (with ink thumbprint!) and newspaper clipping with the auction sales notice with an A4V stamp slammed on it.

You can just see the judges at the New Brunswick Court of Appeal sitting around a table, looking at these and wondering … did someone slip a hallucinogen into our coffee this morning?

The other fascinating thing about these attached documents is the court seems to indicate that this is the exact scheme that has emerged in Quebec and is reported in 10 cases listed at para 34, and which may have an even broader use since one of those cases has the judge note this is the 29th time someone has argued in that jurisdiction that a “Private Registered Setoff Bond” paid off a debt.

The court decision reproduces the grounds for appeal, with this warning preamble (para 26):
For the sake of fullness, and in order to enable the reader to understand the scope of these appeals, I will set out verbatim the numerous grounds. This said, I see no reasons to canvas each ground independently. They are prolix, often duplicitous and, on application of the proper standards of review, are all devoid of any merit. As a result, I find myself able to dispose of this appeal in a very summary manner, which is how one would expect frivolous claims or defences to generally be resolved.
[Emphasis in original.]

Most of the grounds of appeal relate to the Bills of Exchange Act – and frankly I’m not exactly sure in certain instances what they are complaining about :
d) As the transcript will disclose, Justice Lavigne committed an error of law by giving a decision avoiding the application of the law as prescribe the two Supreme Court decisions, REFERENCE AS TO VALIDITY OF THE DEBT ADJUSTMENT ACT and the Alberta (Attorney-General) v. Atlas Lumber Co., 1940 CanLII 33 (SCC), 1940 CanLII 33 (SCC) – 1940-12-20 about the legal value of the Bills of Exchange and Promissory Notes prior any application of provincial law.

e) As the transcript will disclose, Justice Lavigne committed an error of law avoiding the necessity for presentment of the Bills prior her decision, ignoring Bills of Exchange Act R.S.C., 1985, c. B-4 as prescribe the law as follows:
  • «84. (1) Subject to this Act, a bill must be duly presented for payment.
    If not presented
    (2) If a bill is not duly presented for payment, the drawer and endorsers are discharged. »

f) As the transcript will disclose, Justice Lavigne committed an error of law, when the Plaintiff party, still being in possession and control of two Bills of Exchange never shown evidence that the two Bills of Exchange were presented for payment prior any action on the matter as the law prescribed.

As the transcript will disclose, Justice Lavigne committed an error of law in her decision, when the Bills of Exchange Act R.S.C., 1985, c. B-4, clearly states that the Plaintiff is:
  • «91. Not dispensed with (2) The fact that the holder has reason to believe that the bill will, on presentment, be dishonored does not dispense with the necessity for presentment.»

g) As the transcript will disclose, Justice Lavigne committed an error of law in her decision, when the Bills of Exchange Act R.S.C., 1985, c. B-4, clearly states that the Plaintiff is:
  • 95. (1) Subject to this Act, when a bill has been dishonored by non-acceptance or by non-payment, notice of dishonor must be given to the drawer and each endorser, and any drawer or endorser to whom the notice is not given is discharged.”

h) As the transcript will disclose, Justice Lavigne committed an error of law by avoiding the application of the Bills of Exchange Act. in her decision, when the Bills of Exchange Act R.S.C., 1985, c. B-4, clearly states that the Respondent (Plaintiff), having accepted and being the Holder in due Course of the Bills since February 24, 2011, is engaged by Estopel as follows:
  • «128. The acceptor of a bill by accepting it is precluded from denying to a holder in due course
    (a) the existence of the drawer, the genuineness of his signature and his capacity and authority to draw the bill;
    (b) in the case of a bill payable to drawer’s order, the then capacity of the drawer to endorse, but not the genuineness or validity of his endorsement; or
    (c) in the case of a bill payable to the order of a third person, the existence of the payee and his then capacity to endorse, but not the genuineness or validity of his endorsement.»

i) As the transcript will disclose, Justice Lavigne committed an error of law, when the Respondent (Plaintiff) party having never shown evidence of presentment at the designated Clearing House that the two Bills of Exchange ever been of no value to compensate the debts.

j) As the transcript will disclose and evidence in support, Justice Lavigne committed an error of law, the Plaintiff party having never shown evidence that the two Bills of Exchange have been dishonored by the designated Clearing House, being the only evidence that would have justified her decision.

k) As the transcript will disclose, Justice Lavigne committed an error of law by avoiding the application of the Bills of Exchange and Promissory Notes according to the Constitutional Act of Canada, section 91(18) as should apply prior any provincial law, notwithstanding the decision of two Case laws of the Supreme Court of Canada and a decision of the Court of Québec in respect of the application of the Constitutional law, as read by the Appellant (Defendant) at the hearing.

l) As the transcript will disclose, Justice Lavigne committed an error of law hearing, where the Plaintiff didn’t’ send a Notice to the Attorney generals of New Brunswick and Canada as section 22(3)(b) of the JUDICATURE ACT prescribed, regarding the application of Bills of Exchange and Promissory Notes under the law of New Brunswick prior the application of sections 138 and 95(1) of the Bills of Exchange Act R.S.C., 1985, c. B-4 as prescribed section 91(18) of the Constitutional Act.

m) As the transcript will disclose, Justice Lavigne committed an error of law by admitting the application of the Bill of Exchange and Promissory Notes in Tehrani c. Comodini, 2009 QCCQ 11107 (CanLII), 2009 QCCQ 11107 was only applicable because the note was a cheque, but would not be applicable to «Bill of Exchange» and «Promissory Notes» in her decision, when the Act. say in its heading «An Act relating to bills of exchange, cheques and promissory notes».

n) Justice Lavigne committed an error of law giving a decision on the ground, where no special provision is contained in the law of New Brunswick, neither in the law of Canada to avoid the application of a Federal law, in regards of the application of the Bills of Exchange Act R.S.C., 1985, c. B-4, section 138 subject to sections 84(1)(2)(3) and 95(1), notwithstanding of section 192(1), that should be apply prior the application of any other law in New Brunswick.
I do like the reasoning of the trial judge on why it wasn’t really necessary to get into the Bills of Exchange Act argument at all – since the Bossés A4V documents were worthless, there was no reason examine that legislation (para 31):
… She reasoned, as had the motion judge who had earlier dismissed the Bossés’ and Envirotek’s motion seeking the return of the properties sold at auction, that the documents created by Mr. Bossé were of no legal value. Since they had no legal value, the Bills of Exchange Act did not apply and there was no need for a trial on the question of whether these had been properly presented to FCC in payment of the debt. The judge characterized the defence as “frivolous”, and concluded there was no reason to doubt the outcome of trial.
The Court of Appeal agreed (para 32):
For the most part, the grounds of appeal against this decision are as frivolous as the defence to the action. These can be summarily dismissed on the basis that, in making discretionary rulings, the judge acted judicially and, in determining the motion for summary judgment, the judge reviewed the relevant evidence and applied the correct legal test. There remains only the question whether the judge erred in law in determining that the documents the Bossés and Envirotek forwarded to FCC in purported payment of their debts had no legal value. In that respect, I am of the view she clearly did not.
And that was that.

Another aspect of this litigation was an actual potential argument; that the forced sale price of the woodlots was unfairly low: Farm Credit Canada v Bossé, 2013 NBQB 131 (http://canlii.ca/t/g2hzg). This was decided against the Bossés on the basis of expert evidence. In brief, they had poor luck. They had purchased these properties at a time just before when lumber prices collapsed in the U.S., and the value of the woodlots was much less than it had been before, due to a combination of depressed product prices and because the lots were now logged. The Court of Appeal confirmed that result: paras 36-38.

Farm Credit Canada asked for solicitor and client indemnity costs, and got it. This is the point where the Court of Appeal directly links the Bossés strategy to the usual OPCA categories, noting that this is a classic “money for nothing” scheme similar to others reported in earlier case law (para 46). The Bossés’ documents show typical OPCA indicia such as double/split person naming motifs: para 47. While there was no evidence this scheme had been marketed on a commercial basis, it was an obvious inference given the large number of parallel Quebec cases: paras 43, 48:
The numerous cases emanating from Quebec where such schemes have been denounced illustrate a stream of vexations litigants intent on abusing the court process in an effort to escape from their legitimate obligations. There is no evidence that the pointless defence advanced in this case was inspired by some guru of the type identified and denounced in a comprehensive decision Rooke A.C.J. authored in Meads v. Meads, 2012 ABQB 571, [2012] A.J. No. 980 (QL). But one thing is certain: the Bossés did not invent the defence out of thin air. One can only conclude they were at least inspired by some of the techniques employed by a category of vexatious litigants Rooke A.C.J. called Organized Pseudolegal Commercial Argument Litigants (“OPCA litigants”).
The Court calls out the Bossés for having engaged in unfair litigation, and on that basis deserve to pay for the other side’s legal costs:
[42] In my view, this is a case where FCC has been subjected to wrongdoing that is reprehensible, scandalous and outrageous. Whittled down to its core, this was a simple claim on a debt that should have been decided on summary judgment with perhaps a simple trial on the quantum. Instead, it turned into a litigation nightmare for FCC, requiring it to repeatedly respond to motions, applications and allegations that were each ultimately found to be frivolous or without any merit. Moreover, the Bossés made claims and advanced defences that any reasonable person would know were devoid of merit. It defies logic that one could print out bonds for any sum of money, let alone significant amounts, and simply say to one’s creditors “here, go away, you have been paid.” I am convinced the Bossés knew this. Their persistence and the vigour with which they challenged or sought to challenge virtually every ruling made against them convinces me they engaged in litigation warfare against FCC as an obstructionist tactic in the hope they would deplete not necessarily FCC’s resources but rather its resolve to obtain a judgment for the balance of the debt owed.



[50] … Bossés’ and Envirotek’s defence and their tactics meet the criteria of being “reprehensible, scandalous or outrageous”. There was no reasonable basis for the defence advanced in this case, and groundless allegations such as those the Bossés made must be discouraged. What should have been a simple action to recover a debt was hindered and confused by their attempt to defeat justice by the production and subsequent reliance on bogus documents. Positive misconduct of this type must be loudly and strictly denounced so the Bossés themselves, and others who might be inclined to behave in a like manner, are discouraged from this type of conduct. In my view, a court has a duty to denounce this type of preposterous conduct, and the most obvious means by which this can be done is by ordering offending parties to pay solicitor and client costs.

[51] In my view, justice to FCC in this appeal can only be achieved by granting its request for costs on a solicitor and client basis. For clarity, this decision is reached regardless of whether or not the Bossés would fall into the category of OPCA litigants. While I note some similarities, I make no conclusive finding in that regard. The appellants’ outrageous conduct, by itself, justifies this award of costs.
Ok – enough of the Court’s decision – let’s look at those juicy documents!!!

The first is a seven page “NOTICE OF DEMAND TO THE GENERAL ATTORNEY OF NEW BRUNSWICK AND THE GENERAL ATTORNEY OF CANADA”. I can’t call it foisted unilateral agreement because it doesn’t seem to have the usual “and if you don’t answer, we WIN!” clause. Instead, it’s a ton of “demands” for legal and factual questions. My favorite could have been drafted by “minister” Belanger:
20. Please provide a copy of Act, that establish by legal and authoritative act; specifically that made that bill into law, as by who, where and when it was presented, when the bill went through the reading processes, to be accepted, published and received its Royal Assent; enacting you to waive my fundamental rights and have jurisdiction over natural justice and over me, prior to your obligation of duties of office including your oath to Elizabeth Windsor (aka “the Queen”). In subscribing to an oath to Elizabeth Windsor, you because a subject of hers and by extension my servant; Therefore, you knew, know or ought to have known, in subscribing to an oath to Elizabeth Windsor, you are bound to the Law attached to Elizabeth Windsor and you also knew, know or ought to have known, those Laws are reliant and granted by the Bible scriptures as some of those laws binding upon you over any and all procedures under governmental and local laws as the following PRIOR AUTHORITIES (not limited to):

1. Deuteronomy 7:6-12 – You are to keep His commands;
2. Deuteronomy 11:1- Keep His statutes;
3. Deuteronomy 17:18-20 Exodus 23:3,6 – Equality ;
4. Deuteronomy 4:2 – Keep the Law;
5. Deuteronomy 17:15 – Strangers not to rule over us;
6. Deuteronomy 15:4 – Leviticus 25 – No poor among us;
7. Deuteronomy 17:17 – No hoarding ;
8. Leviticus 19: 11-12 – Not swear falsely;
9. Mathew 23:23 – 28 – Matters of law application
There’s a couple that demand proof Canada and New Brunswick aren’t corporations, fictitious entities and do “… not operate exclusively under color of law”, which leads to para. 22, which is also fun:
22. Please provide a Sworn affidavit, under full commercial liability of the Attorney General, by the person representing the Constitutional Unit of the Attorney General, signing under penalty of perjury that the facts contained in his answer are true, correct, complete and not misleading, including an affirmation, stating that you are not simply an agency controlled by the Central banks and involved in government’s devious misuse and/or deprivation of my Fundamental Rights and my right to natural justice.


Then there’s Appendix B, which has the Bossés’ A4V documents. They aren’t in chronological order so I’m going to re-assort them to that.

First is a February 11, 2011 “NOTICE IN THE NATURE AND DEMAND FOR SET-OFF, SETTLEMENT AND CLOSURE”. It demands the Bossés’ debt be “adjusted to Zero dollars” in exchange for the A4V “TENDER”. Yes, the U.C.C. gets invoked at length, along with a bunch of what I think are U.S. cases. It concludes:
THEREFORE, in light of the above, under necessity, having no other means to pay debts at law, and in respect to any supposed ‘debt/liability’ being accepted for value, but being estopped and denied access to lawful constitutional money of exchange, the undersigned can only exercise the remedy under necessity to set off/discharge the ‘debt/liability’ in behalf of JULES BOSSE/ANNE DOIRON BOSSE, via your DULY SIGNED PRESENTMENT Accepted for Value and Returned for Dicharge bearing my exemption; further, as my signature “created” the asset of these funds which you then monetized to your gain ten times, then my signature does certainly “Pay” this supposed liability;

THEREIN, you are required to accept this negotiable instrument and credit the above account in honor, within ten (10) days upon acceptance.

Any dishonor will be construed as a commercial injury, violation of agreement, fraud, fraud by scienter, violation of commercial law and otherwise.

We consider that you will do the honorable thing in this matter and set off/discharge, close and settle the above referenced account to show the account paid in full.

We thank you for your time in this matter.
There are two “PRIVATE REGISTERED SETOFF BONDS”, both dated Feb. 19, 2011, that instruct the United States Treasury pay Farm Credit Canada: one for $420,000, the second for $640,000. Jules stuck his fingerprint on these beside his signature.

Next there is a “CONSTRUCTIVE NOTICE OF CONDITIONAL ACCEPTANCE AND REQUEST FOR ABATEMENT OF SALE”, dated Feb. 23, 1011, that treats the Bossés as acting for a “private trust known as JULES BOSSE”. It requests the Bossés’ accounts be “adjusted to Zero dollars” on the basis of the A4V documents within 14 days. The usual “point-by-point” demand for rebuttal is included. This document concludes in a curious way:
Please direct responses to third party witness;
[handwritten signature]
Ghyslaine Pigeon, Commissioner of Oaths
358 Rosemere
Rosemere, Quebec, Canada J7A 2T5
Is this the guru? Someone who is also a Commissioner of Oaths? Perhaps, because ‘googling’ that name turned up a July 28, 2011 news release (http://www.lautorite.qc.ca/en/press-rel ... -10-4.html) from Autorité des Marchés Financiers, Quebec’s financial market regulator, that claims over half a million in fines for “illegal distributions”. Pigeon’s name comes up in this context:
The AMF is also seeking a fine of $10,000 against Ghyslaine Pigeon, who is accused of aiding Groupe Beaudoin Fournier et Roy inc. with acting illegally as a securities adviser (one count).
However, CanLII has nothing associated with that name.

The CONSTRUCTIVE NOTICE OF CONDITIONAL ACCEPTANCE AND REQUEST FOR ABATEMENT OF SALE attaches two documents:
  • 1) an “AFFIDAVIT IN SUPPORT OF COMMERCIAL DISCHANGE” which says the Bossés are preferred stock shareholders corporations of their own names, the usual A4V type stuff. Pigeon stamped this one too.

    2) an “AFFIDAVIT OF SPECIFIC NEGATIVE AVERMENT”, which states Jules Joseph Jeanot Bossé owns JULES BOSSE. Also sealed by Pigeon.
This was followed on April 29, 2011 with a “NOTICE OF FAULT IN DISHONOR (Oppurtunity to Cure)” (that’s how it’s spelled, too). It’s another foisted unilateral agreement giving Farm Credit Canada a chance to respond to the Feb. 11 document with a “point-by-point” response in 10 days, and if not:
4. Your silence is acquiescence, agreement, and dishonor. This is a self-executing contract.
Scary! Particularly since if Farm Credit Canada doesn’t respond it agrees to these damages:
1. Damages of Ten thousands ($10,000.00) per day, with no maximum amount.
2. Loss of security interest in Les Enterprises Envirotek Ltee. And/or PROPERTIES for the amount of Five hundred thousands dollars ($ 500 000.00)
3. Additional damages of court costs, notary costs and any other clerical and legal costs will be added to the Damages.
4. The sum certain in Canadian Dollars is in numerical parity with the Euro Dollar and any other superior currency backed by gold.
The Euro is backed by gold?!? Who knew?!

And a Quebec commissioner of oaths gave it the ol’ stamperoo.

Next we have a June 7, 2011 one page “NOTICE OF ADMINISTRATIVE JUDGMENT”, which essentially says since Farm Credit Canada didn’t pay attention to the NOTICE IN THE NATURE AND DEMAND FOR SET-OFF, SETTLEMENT AND CLOSURE that the Bossés win! And I see a Quebec commissioner of oaths has again sealed this document, but it’s a different commissioner – not Pigeon.

Last is the A4V’ed copy of the Bossés’ wood lot sale advertisement.

I’d love if some of our U.S. Quatloosians have a look at these documents. They are clearly derived from a U.S. source, but I’d be very interested to know which one. I’ve done a little ‘Googling’ to see what I could turn up, but nothing definitive emerged.

The Bossés are an example of another increasingly common trend in OPCA litigation – parallel provincial and Federal Court actions. The New Brunswick Court of Appeal at para 13 notes that once the Bossés failed at the Manitoba Court of Queen’s Bench they then launched a Federal Court lawsuit. However, when I went to the Federal Court’s files I found not one but three lawsuits:
  • T-2043-11 – Jules Bosse, Anne Doiron Bosse et al v. Farm Credit Canada et al - this one appears to be the lawsuit mentioned by the New Brunswick Court of Appeal.
The other two are cryptic:
  • T-1242-12 – Jules Bossé v. Her Majesty the Queen and Her Servants – struck out on July 16, 2012 without oral argument. This one does not include Anne Doiron Bossé or Envirotek as parties.

    T-898-12 – Jules Bossé et al v. Her Majesty the Queen et al – I’m not sure why the defendants have an ‘et al’, because the file details to not indicate any other party on that side. This one has Anne and Envirotek as plaintiffs. I think the action was struck out July 3, 2012 without an oral argument but there are a bunch of documents after that on the record – not sure what was going on.
The Federal Court database provides no hint as to what the Bossés' lawsuits against the Crown were about.

As usual I looked to see what else I could turn up about the Bossés’. They live in a very small community in the far north west of New Brunswick. That’s an area right beside Quebec, and much of the population there is francophone. They don’t seem to have been involved in any litigation beside this one. There’s a bunch of other interlocutory judgments in this matter, but none is interesting – all procedural stuff, except for what seem to be premature leave to appeal applications:
  • Bossé v Farm Credit Canada, 2012 CanLII 17403 (NB CA) (http://canlii.ca/t/fqvqm) - $750 cost award against the Bossés

    Bossé v Financement agricole Canada, 2013 CanLII 3572 (NB CA) (http://canlii.ca/t/fvxlg) - $1000 cost award against the Bossés

    Bossé v Farm Credit Canada, 2013 CanLII 13974 (NB CA) (http://canlii.ca/t/fwm7f) - $2000 cost award against the Bossés
and a failed stay application:
The name “Envirotek” leads some interesting places. A business called “Options Envirotec” (http://www.b-harmony.com/weberbio-franc ... uteurs.htm) is listed as a distributor of Weber Bio (http://www.b-harmony.com/weberbio-france/index.htm) products. The address is that of the Bossés. Weber Bio is a French flakey new-age crap distributor, with various “Harmoniseur Chakras” and “L’Emetteur d’Orgone”.

“Options Envirotek” has a website (http://www.options-envirotek.ws/) flogging these things. It’s pretty sad.

So – place your bets on whether the Bossés try to go to the Supreme Court of Canada? I bet $100 Quatloos they make the application – they’re persistent! If they do, I bet a million, billion Quatloos that the Supreme Court of Canada will refuse that application!

If I lose, please collect those Quatloos from my U.S. Treasury Department account: SMS MOWE.

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I see the Canadian cousin of the American Bonded Promissory Note rears its ugly and boring head, along with a whole litany of A4V sovrun pseudo legal nonsense.
The fact that you sincerely and wholeheartedly believe that the “Law of Gravity” is unconstitutional and a violation of your sovereign rights, does not absolve you of adherence to it.
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Kinda sad to think that there are so many offline Gurus we may never hear about.

The actual A4V doesn't actually contain any clues that could let you identify the source. The language used now is completely homogenized and it's spread so widely among OPCA groups that everyone has used A4V at one point or another. Menard endorsed A4V, Dean Clifford used it to try to get out of jail, Santos Bonacci tried using it to avoid his toll fines. Blacks, latinos, white guys, A4V doesn't discriminate.

There's mention of "secure party creditor", I believe Tim Turner popularized that one but it's also spread quite far now.

Use of a comissioner of Oaths stands out to me since Clifford has been big on that one lately.

My diagnosis is, generic vanilla OPCA. If this really is the 29th time someone has tried this then I don't see how the Judges don't have an inkling of who is going around Canada giving seminars on paying off debts with "Bonds".
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My suspicion is that the judges rarely get that information because the non-OPCA parties rarely supply it. That's a matter of reference sources, comparator materials, and expertise - simply put even if that party wanted to provide that information they will have a hard time identifying whom to target.

Unless of course it's written in David-Wynn: Millerese. That's kind of hard to miss, given his name is all over those things, too.

Or unless they turn to Quatloos!

This suggests that a "field guide to OPCA documents" could be a significant and useful resource. If some of our useless Canadian legal academics would do actual research on the subject then they would be an ideal candidates to create and maintain that resource. Otherwise, I suppose it falls to hobbyists such as ourselves.

You know, the more I think about this, that isn't even really all that difficult a project. A lot of sources are made obvious by certain flags. If it doesn't fall into any other category and is notarized by "Hajistahenhway", then we know it's The Chief. I should think further about this.

There are two mechanisms I use to trace document origin. I just grab a paragraph or sentence and stick it straight into Google, and see what comes up. That actually works surprisingly well until you get these highly derived documents that appear to have been assembled from many sources.

Let's see what happens when I use this paragraph found in both the Bossé "Notice" and "Affidavit" documents:
In light of the holding of Fidelity Bank Guarantee vs. Henwood, 307 U.S. 847 (1939), take notice of … “As of October 27, 1977, legal tender for discharge of debt is no longer required. That is because legal tender is not in circulation at par with promises to pay credit. There can be no requirement of repayment in legal tender either, since legal tender was not loaned [nor in circulation] and repayment [or payment] need only be made in equivalent kind; A negotiable instrument.”
[How the heck does this even make any sense?! A court in 1939 mysteriously knew that 36 years in the future the nature of currency would transmogrify?!!?]

Hmm, a number of strong hits.

Fred K. Parsons Revelation, “Shyster Bank” page (http://www.fredkparsons.com/pages/thefr ... -bank.html) has a couple template documents. The body of the “Notice in the Nature and Demand for Set-Off” is very similar to the Bossés’ “Notice” – these items are without question related. Same with the Bossés; “Affidavit” and this “Affidavit in Support of Commercial Discharge.

Who the heck is Fred K. Parson’s anyway? This website looks incomplete, perhaps abandoned?

Same for (http://www.wordwendang.com/en/word_econ ... 452_3.html) - lots of identical language. Not even sure what this website is. Looks very close to the Fred Parsons document.

Then that quote as part of the same list of items, brought up in a message thread in a pro-marijuana forum (http://weedtracker.com/cannabis/topic/6 ... -benefits/).

Ooh… there’s a template Microsoft Word document which has strong parallels, entitled “Laws That Govern Electronic Fund Transfers” at (http://www.hisadvocates.org ) What’s that? Ah, it’s Kelby Smith’s website (viewtopic.php?f=49&t=9203)

Ok, that’s probably our U.S. source/inspiration. I recall that the Quebec scheme fingered in some of the cited judgments also involved electronic fund transfer based frauds.

Alright, so that just leaves remaining who is the Canadian guru from Quebec who adapted the Kelby Smith material for Canadian use? At present, the finger points to the Pigeon.

The other way I've periodically traced document identity is via formatting. Sure - you encounter the same or similar language again and again, but if we're lucky and can spot samples online with the exact same formatting? Bingo. Google image searches are great for that.

Whoops - tried that, and whattya know - here's one (http://www.docstoc.com/docs/23742522/Certified-Mail-_). The 'docstoc' documents have much of the same text as the Bossés’ material, and in certain instances share the exact same formatting. The two "Affidavits" are a perfect match whereever the text duplicates.

Can anyone confirm the linked "docstoc" documents are from Kelby Smith? If so, we have our U.S. precursor guru. It looks like the "docstoc" documents were posted on January of 2010.

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I think the whole A4V thing is perhaps the best example of why redemption/sovereign scams work. Its a combination of cargo cult law (wrapping the paperwork in loads of Latin and pseudo-legal language that appears impressive to someone who doesn't understand the law) and the ultimate wish fulfillment: getting what you want, wiping all your debts for free...by simply uttering/printing the magical words.

My favorite quote from this decision is:
It defies logic that one could print out bonds for any sum of money, let alone significant amounts, and simply say to one’s creditors “here, go away, you have been paid.
Indeed, it does defy all logic, which is why even though this stuff has a 0% success rate people keep doing it even years after it became vogue in the sov'run sphere.

The reach is wide as other people have noted - the scam of "use magical language to pay my bills" encompasses things like A4V, sov'run promissory notes, and a wide variety of redemption scams. One of the places that its become very popular is debt elimination through places like getoutofdebtfree.org, where they essentially rely on the same core mythology to claim you can get out of all your debts by sending the right paperwork.
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In June Mowe wrote;
So – place your bets on whether the Bossés try to go to the Supreme Court of Canada? I bet $100 Quatloos they make the application – they’re persistent! If they do, I bet a million, billion Quatloos that the Supreme Court of Canada will refuse that application!

If I lose, please collect those Quatloos from my U.S. Treasury Department account: SMS MOWE.
And here it is:

http://www.scc-csc.gc.ca/case-dossier/i ... ?cas=36026

They don't seem shy about flooding the Supreme Court with documents. That just follows their pattern in the lower courts. This is as DOA as any leave application to the SCC that I've ever seem. The Bossé's seem oblivious to how the courts view their legal actions even though the appeals court was extremely explicit in its criticism of their case. Having maximum costs awarded against them on a solicitor and client basis should have been a clue. I think they've moved from being a desperate couple trying to salvage something from the wreckage to true believers and vexatious litigants.

This entry seems interesting;
2014-08-27 Notice of name Jules Bossé
:Jules of the family Bossé: perhaps?
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Leave to Appeal denied by the Supreme Court of Canada with costs. Who'd a seen that one coming?
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