Tens of thousands of new N.B. voters are the X factor in fall election
Largest-ever population increase could scramble outcomes in fast-growing cities
The clutter and chaos of renovations at Tom Sosnoski's house in the centre of Moncton is just one indicator of the long process of settling into a new home in a new community.
Another is the ballot Sosnoski will cast in this fall's provincial election — his first as a New Brunswicker.
"You show up somewhere and a part of you thinks, 'Well, I haven't lived here for so long. … Do I know enough to really make much of an informed choice?" he said.
"It seems a bit quick, a bit sudden."
Sosnoski is one of tens of thousands of people who have made New Brunswick their home since the last provincial election.
The largest-ever population increase in the province's history will likely yield the largest-ever number of new voters as well — a spike that, in some key ridings in fast-growing cities, may determine the winners.
"I think that could very easily result in some surprises," said Kristin Cavoukian, a member of the Anglophone East district education council, who moved to the province in 2021.
Sosnoski and his family also arrived in 2021, during the COVID-19 pandemic.
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They were seeking fresher air, an affordable home and a good internet connection that would allow them to work remotely in their jobs in the technology consulting field.
"It's really a wonderful place to live for remote work," he said.
"We were living in a very small apartment in the middle of Toronto and we were looking for maximum change, I guess you would say. And so this was a very logical move for that."
They found a fixer-upper in one of Moncton's oldest neighbourhoods, near a school, in the riding of Moncton South — an area that often flips between Progressive Conservatives and Liberals.
Akash Rabari is another example of the population boom: an immigrant who came to Canada for university and was able to stay.
Akash
Rabari immigrated to Canada for school. He lives in Moncton with his
wife, Krishna, and son, Hridaan, and will be voting for the first time
as a new Canadian citizen. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)
He became a citizen Aug. 12, two days before his interview with CBC News.
"I'm really excited to vote for the first time," said Rabari, who works in a telecom customer-contact centre.
Elections New Brunswick is readying itself.
"What we have seen in the last couple of months is a spike in the number of people applying to register so they can get on the list of electors," said Kim Poffenroth, the chief electoral officer.
"Every day we've had more people applying, but it's really hard to say what the number will be until after the election."
Chief electoral officer Kim Poffenroth says there's been a spike in people registering to vote in recent months. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)
Some back-of-napkin math suggests new voters like Sosnoski and Rabari could be the X factor in October's vote.
By Statistics Canada's official count, the population has grown by 67,000 people since the last election, though the agency's unofficial real-time model yields an even higher number.
Most of the growth has been in the four largest cities of Moncton, Dieppe, Fredericton and Saint John, which collectively gained more than 24,000 people from 2020 to 2023.
Those four cities have 13 ridings between them, many of them key battlegrounds that could determine who governs the province.
A rough calculation suggests an average of at least 1,600 new voting-age residents in each of those 13 ridings — a number greater than the margin of victory in many past contests.
That's why political parties would dearly love to know how the newcomers will vote. But they're hard to track.
The Liberals say they rely on lists of registered voters from Elections New Brunswick to build databases of names to target, so until the new arrivals register to vote, they're not easy to identify and contact.
The Greens, meanwhile, say one of their priorities is to ensure new voters know the party is an alternative in New Brunswick, unlike in most other provinces.
Anecdotally, Liberal Leader Susan Holt said, she has detected "a progressive vibe" among the new voters she meets.
That's where Sosnoski — typical of the white-collar, urban professional from a large Canadian city — puts himself on the political spectrum.
He'd like to see higher corporate taxes to pay for more resources in school classrooms, so that teachers don't have to ask parents to donate pencils and papers midway through the school year.
He also wants improvements to housing and health care, and is opposed to Premier Blaine Higgs "wasting an ounce of time" on Policy 713, the gender identity policy for school students.
"It's time to just get past this and stop focusing on this because there's a lot of work to do, a lot of serious work," Sosnoski said.
"Leave kids alone, give them autonomy, let everyone be who they are."
But it would be wrong to assume all new voters think that way.
"When I was moving here, there were a lot of people online moving to New Brunswick, groups who were moving to rural parts of the province who seemed to have very conservative beliefs too," Cavoukian said.
Kristin Cavoukian, who moved to the province in 2021, says newcomers have a wide range of political backgrounds. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)
Indeed, Faytene Grasesschi, a well-known Christian conservative activist who moved here in 2020, was a vocal defender of Higgs's stance on Policy 713 last year.
Grasseschi, who did not respond to an interview request, is now the PC candidate in Hampton-Fundy-St. Martins.
Many Syrian and other Muslim immigrants also supported the PC changes to Policy 713 and last fall attended what was described as a "parental rights" march that included opposition to sexual orientation and gender identity being discussed in schools.
Higgs greeted them and said later that they deserve to be heard by politicians.
"We are much more diverse now than we've ever been," he said last December.
"We certainly saw that with the rally here on the lawn and the number of immigrants that were part of that. They bring a new dimension to our province so we all have to be respectful of that."
The PC Party didn't respond to a request for an interview for this story.
Many
Syrian and other Muslim immigrants supported PC changes to Policy 713
and participated in what was called a "parental rights march," that
opposed sexual orientation and gender identity being taught in schools. (Ed Hunter/CBC)
Rabari, who came to Canada from India, said he doesn't have an opinion on Policy 713.
But his views on another conservative issue — taxation — could make him sympathetic to Higgs and his PC party.
"Just cut the taxes and let the people bring more home," said Rabari, who saw the property tax bill on his new house in Dieppe almost double after he bought it last year, from $2,457 to $4,729.
He said Higgs's promise to cut the harmonized sales tax by two points "definitely" got his attention.
But he's also unhappy about his property tax bill and about health care, saying his wife's recent pregnancy was stressful because the couple didn't have a family doctor.
If there's one thing that new voters clearly have in common, it's no historical voting pattern to shape their decisions.
"Political parties have assumed that they have the support of a certain segment of the population, and I don't think that they can assume that based on the linguistic preference of newcomers, for example," Cavoukian said.
"We couldn't care less who your father was or what your family last name is. We are looking for results, we're looking for character and we're looking for policy proposals."
Cavoukian said many politicians don't seem to have adjusted yet to the idea of a province where people are starting new lives.
"That's something that the political class in this province would be wise to change, because lots of us are coming, and we're coming to stay."
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208 Comments
David Amos
Methinks Mr Outhouse has quite a task at hand N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Methinks Mr Outhouse has quite a task at hand N'esy Pas?
David Amos
JP knows I have run against both turncoats in my neck of the woods.
5 long years ago after running in 7 elections while folks made fun of me I declared that we get the governments we deserve because apathy ruled the day and said that I would never run again
However as I watch this circus unfolding its tent and seeing how upset a lot of folks are I am considering throwing my hat in the ring and challenging the ringmaster for his seat in the old maison I have been barred from for 20 very long years
Louella Woods
May be voters on list but will they bother to
go out and vote? Still over 65 percent of the voting public, who
actually vote, in New Brunswick are seniors... Not about to change.
David Amos
Reply to Louella Woods
Reply to Louella Woods
I agree
Max Ruby
Higgs got his surplus with population growth
resulting in huge property tax bills for all, highest in Canada.
Everyone who was already here got the shaft: Overcrowded schools, not
enough doctors, huge ER wait times and not enough jobs for our youth.
David Amos
Reply to Max Ruby
Reply to Max Ruby
"The PC Party didn't respond to a request for an interview for this story."
Methinks the crickets are speaking volumes N'esy Pas?
MR Cain
Reply to Max Ruby
Research shows that Winnipeg has the highest property taxes
Max Ruby
Reply to MR Cain
Home in Winterpeg $500,000 pays $5,949 property tax 2023
Home in Saint John $500,000 pays $11,359 property tax 2023
Max Ruby
Reply to MR Cain
New Brunswick has the highest property tax, I am not cherry picking cities.
The table above shows that British Columbia is the province with lowest taxes.
Quebec property tax is relatively low as well compared to New Brunswick which has the highest property taxes in Canada.
https://www.nesto.ca/mortgage-basics/property-taxes-by-province-in-canada-highest-to-lowest/Max Ruby
Reply to Max Ruby
Reply to Max Ruby
Winnipeg is hard to assess. Winnipeg
properties assessed based on guidelines, there are ten classes, its not
a blanket approach like NB. It takes into consideration 1 car garage
or 2 or none, age of home, quiet street or busy street, transit or no
transit.
David Amos
Reply to David Amos
Reply to David Amos
Hmmm
David Amos
Reply to Max Ruby
Reply to Max Ruby
Thanks
FYI
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/why-new-brunswick-has-highest-inflation-rate-1.7301702Matt Steele
It is certainly obvious that a very large
percentage of new Canadians who are voting in the upcoming provincial
election are in complete disagreement with policy 713 , and the Liberals
are going to pay a big price at the ballot box for it . It is ironic
that the Federal liberals probably created this massive population surge
over the past nine years in hopes that it would help them get
re-elected next year ; and now the Provincial Liberals will lose the
election because of it . The Liberals need to learn what a tangled web
they weave when they practice to deceive as it always catches up to them
eventually ; and there is always a price to be paid .
David Amos
Reply to Matt Steele
Reply to Matt Steele
Yea right
valmond landry
the only person that could help this situation here in NBis if we could find somebody like little LOUIS he was the one responsible for opening the mines , smelter and creating all kind of work so the people could earn a living he also was responsible for opening all trade schools in NB .
the only person that could help this situation here in NBis if we could find somebody like little LOUIS he was the one responsible for opening the mines , smelter and creating all kind of work so the people could earn a living he also was responsible for opening all trade schools in NB .
David Amos
Reply to valmond landry
I have no doubt that legions of ghosts strongly disagree
valmond landry
Reply to David Amos
We all have our opinion sir.n
Hugh MacDonald
Remember: Vote early and vote often.
David Amos
Reply to Hugh MacDonald
Reply to Hugh MacDonald
No doubt some will
Hugh MacDonald
Reply to David Amos
Or try.
Matt Steele
Unfortunately it was Dominic Cardy's 15 minutes of fame as it was he who implemented policy 713 unbeknownst to most when he was Minister of Education . When it was brought to light , the PC government reviewed , and changed policy 713 ; and Cardy subsequently had to quit Cabinet before being removed , and was pushed out of the PC party .
Bobby Richards
Reply to Matt Steele
Also unbeknownst to most, is that Higgs was onboard with 713 until a few started making noise and he realized it was an effective way to divide the people and then eventually made it an election issue.
David Amos
Reply to Matt Steele
Surely you jest Cardy and his new party has become rather famous lately
Matt Steele
Bobby Richards
Reply to Matt Steele
Also unbeknownst to most, is that Higgs was onboard with 713 until a few started making noise and he realized it was an effective way to divide the people and then eventually made it an election issue.
David Amos
Reply to Matt Steele
Surely you jest Cardy and his new party has become rather famous lately
Matt Steele
A large percentage of new Canadians who are voting in the upcoming provincial election are in complete disagreement with policy 713 , and the Liberals are going to pay a big price at the ballot box for it . It is ironic that the Federal liberals probably created this massive population surge over the past nine years in hopes that it would help them get re-elected next year ; and now the Provincial Liberals will lose the election because of it . The Liberals need to learn what a tangled web they weave when they practice to deceive as it always catches up to them eventually .
Kyle Woodman
Reply to Matt Steele
What about the newcomers from Ontario?
Bobby Richards
Reply to Matt Steele
Your memory is short. Higgs wanted massive population surges in NB.
Feb 2020:
During his state of the province speech, Premier Blaine Higgs laid out a goal of attracting up to 10,000 newcomers a year by 2027. Higgs has also floated the idea of trying to grow NB's population to one million people by 2040.
Ron parker
Kyle Woodman
Reply to Matt Steele
What about the newcomers from Ontario?
Bobby Richards
Reply to Matt Steele
Your memory is short. Higgs wanted massive population surges in NB.
Feb 2020:
During his state of the province speech, Premier Blaine Higgs laid out a goal of attracting up to 10,000 newcomers a year by 2027. Higgs has also floated the idea of trying to grow NB's population to one million people by 2040.
Ron parker
Reply to Bobby Richards
MS likes to cherry pick.
David Amos
Reply to Ron parker
All the spin doctors do
MS likes to cherry pick.
David Amos
Reply to Ron parker
All the spin doctors do
valmond landry
easy to find out who is going to win liberal conservative, conservative liberal , it's an ongoing circus .
easy to find out who is going to win liberal conservative, conservative liberal , it's an ongoing circus .
ralph jacobs
Reply to valmond landry
There is nothing else better to chose from.
David Amos
Reply to valmond landry
Thats what I have been calling it or years
Douglas James
Newcomers, whether they have moved from elsewhere in Canada or from abroad simply need to look at the dismal record of both the Conservatives and Liberals, the only two parties that have formed a government here since Confederation. If you want to vote for more of the same i.e. poor health care, lack of affordable housing, subsidies for the billionaires etc. etc. etc. then go ahead and do so. If you want to change the political landscape, take a chance on something new. One thing is for sure, however, even with the Green Party or NDP or whatever, nothing will change overnight. It will take much longer to lift up a province that has been held back for more than a century and a half.
David Amos
Newcomers, whether they have moved from elsewhere in Canada or from abroad simply need to look at the dismal record of both the Conservatives and Liberals, the only two parties that have formed a government here since Confederation. If you want to vote for more of the same i.e. poor health care, lack of affordable housing, subsidies for the billionaires etc. etc. etc. then go ahead and do so. If you want to change the political landscape, take a chance on something new. One thing is for sure, however, even with the Green Party or NDP or whatever, nothing will change overnight. It will take much longer to lift up a province that has been held back for more than a century and a half.
David Amos
Reply to Douglas James
Are you gonna run again?"
Douglas James
Reply to David Amos
No. I ran just the once for the Green Party because I believed in its platform but also because I wanted to keep the Saint John water fiasco in the public eye while the Mayor and city councillors were refusing to even talk to citizens about it. We need more young progressive thinkers to get involved. It is their future at stake. That having been said we don't need 'career minded' politicians who try quickly to jump from city politics to provincial to further their own ends.
Are you gonna run again?"
Douglas James
Reply to David Amos
No. I ran just the once for the Green Party because I believed in its platform but also because I wanted to keep the Saint John water fiasco in the public eye while the Mayor and city councillors were refusing to even talk to citizens about it. We need more young progressive thinkers to get involved. It is their future at stake. That having been said we don't need 'career minded' politicians who try quickly to jump from city politics to provincial to further their own ends.
David Amos
Reply to Douglas James
Reply to Douglas James
Thanks for the reply
William Peters
Higgs has managed to cross every existing demographic in NB, including the one who typically votes Conservative. This gives him hope? Message to newcomers: the people who are most uncomfortable with you being here are sitting on the political right.
Max Ruby
Reply to William Peters
Message to necomers: Liberal Tory same old Story.
David Amos
Reply to Max Ruby
Higgs has managed to cross every existing demographic in NB, including the one who typically votes Conservative. This gives him hope? Message to newcomers: the people who are most uncomfortable with you being here are sitting on the political right.
Max Ruby
Reply to William Peters
Message to necomers: Liberal Tory same old Story.
David Amos
Reply to Max Ruby
True Story
Felix Mitchell
This rabani guy has it figured out. Forgot about this social stuff, vote for the guy with the least taxes.
William Peters
Reply to Felix Mitchell
If the taxes don't pay for services nothing will, because the Irvings won't.
Max Ruby
Reply to William Peters
We pay enough high taxes hence the surplus, scrap the swimming pools and put it toward necessities.
Ron parker
Reply to Max Ruby
not spending money on services helps the surplus.
David Amos
Reply to Max Ruby
I agree
Kyle Woodman
Reply to Felix Mitchell
So what about removing the PST from electricity?
Douglas James
Reply to Kyle Woodman
That would be the best thing to do given that the rapidly increasing hydro bills are a consequence of NB Power's own incompetence.
Kyle Woodman
Reply to Douglas James
It definitely saves me more money than a possible 1% HST cut a year from now and another 1% MAYBE IN 2026. Plus, ~$400 million in revenue is going to be hard to make up.
Denis Van Humbeck
Not good.
David Amos
Reply to Denis Van Humbeck
Why?
Randy Dumont
How will the large amount of retirees who sold homes in other provinces to take advantage of the cheap prices in New Brunswick vote?
Jack Bell
Reply to Randy Dumont
There is money on the line... so conservative.
David Amos
Reply to Jack Bell
Perhaps but Boomers require lots of Health Care going forward
Not good.
David Amos
Reply to Denis Van Humbeck
Why?
Randy Dumont
How will the large amount of retirees who sold homes in other provinces to take advantage of the cheap prices in New Brunswick vote?
Jack Bell
Reply to Randy Dumont
There is money on the line... so conservative.
David Amos
Reply to Jack Bell
Perhaps but Boomers require lots of Health Care going forward
Kyle Woodman
Reply to Randy Dumont
Really depends on where they came from. I live in a rural area with a lot of new imports particularly from Ontario. If they are coming from urban areas (Toronto), which is the majority of them, they seem to lean Liberal based on my observations. There are some trucker convoy types as well so I assume they will vote conservative. Probably some green leaning people in the mix too.
Douglas James
Reply to Randy Dumont
I suspect that for the most part they will vote the same way they voted in Ontario or elsewhere. Few people have the courage to try something new even when something old isn't working, that's why New Brunswick is in so much trouble.
Robert Brannen
Perhaps there should be a waiting period before being able to vote in provincial elections for those moving to the province to endure, say about 20 years, as it is for those born in the province. It would give the newcomers an opportunity to learn about the culture of the province before attempting to change its culture.
Kenneth Dwight
Reply to Robert Brannen
It doesn't take 20 years to learn about a backwards province like ours. I'm guessing it takes newcomers all of about a month to figure out whom to stay away from. Being frightened of change is something that that "those born in the province" have as a hangup. That's where the change needs to happen.
Robert Brannen
Reply to Kenneth Dwight
When I moved to this province, I had no desire to change it from what it had become. Nor did I wish to do that in other provinces, and one territory, if which I have resided.
MR Cain
Reply to Robert Brannen
20 years? kidding. tight?
SarahRose Werner
Reply to Robert Brannen
We have this thing called the Constitution that ensures all Canadian citizens the right to vote.
William Peters
Reply to Robert Brannen
Don't worry, it has hardly changed since 1784 in some places. They still get excited when the Royals visit.
Robert Brannen
Reply to SarahRose Werner
No problem, there is a condition on that right for Canadian born citizens, a waiting period of 19 years; perhaps we should apply a similar period for citizens if they change province of residence. Just saying.
David Amos
Reply to Robert Brannen
Surely you jest
Robert Brannen
Reply to William Peters
1784 was the year in which the residents of what is now New Brunswick made their most short-sighted political move.
David Amos
Reply to Robert Brannen
And we still don't have a Constitution Hence we have to rely on the Federal one that came into effect in 1867 Correct?
Reply to Randy Dumont
Really depends on where they came from. I live in a rural area with a lot of new imports particularly from Ontario. If they are coming from urban areas (Toronto), which is the majority of them, they seem to lean Liberal based on my observations. There are some trucker convoy types as well so I assume they will vote conservative. Probably some green leaning people in the mix too.
Douglas James
Reply to Randy Dumont
I suspect that for the most part they will vote the same way they voted in Ontario or elsewhere. Few people have the courage to try something new even when something old isn't working, that's why New Brunswick is in so much trouble.
Robert Brannen
Perhaps there should be a waiting period before being able to vote in provincial elections for those moving to the province to endure, say about 20 years, as it is for those born in the province. It would give the newcomers an opportunity to learn about the culture of the province before attempting to change its culture.
Kenneth Dwight
Reply to Robert Brannen
It doesn't take 20 years to learn about a backwards province like ours. I'm guessing it takes newcomers all of about a month to figure out whom to stay away from. Being frightened of change is something that that "those born in the province" have as a hangup. That's where the change needs to happen.
Robert Brannen
Reply to Kenneth Dwight
When I moved to this province, I had no desire to change it from what it had become. Nor did I wish to do that in other provinces, and one territory, if which I have resided.
MR Cain
Reply to Robert Brannen
20 years? kidding. tight?
SarahRose Werner
Reply to Robert Brannen
We have this thing called the Constitution that ensures all Canadian citizens the right to vote.
William Peters
Reply to Robert Brannen
Don't worry, it has hardly changed since 1784 in some places. They still get excited when the Royals visit.
Robert Brannen
Reply to SarahRose Werner
No problem, there is a condition on that right for Canadian born citizens, a waiting period of 19 years; perhaps we should apply a similar period for citizens if they change province of residence. Just saying.
David Amos
Reply to Robert Brannen
Surely you jest
Robert Brannen
Reply to William Peters
1784 was the year in which the residents of what is now New Brunswick made their most short-sighted political move.
David Amos
Reply to Robert Brannen
And we still don't have a Constitution Hence we have to rely on the Federal one that came into effect in 1867 Correct?
ralph jacobs
Reply to Robert Brannen
I was thinking the same ting. Newcomers don't know what is or has gone on and why a certain party did in the past get elected.
Ed Armstrong
Reply to David Amos
Dave, the British North America Act of 1967 was not a constitution but an act of the British Parliament basicly telling us how to behave as an independent country. The Constitution we now have was signed by the Queen in 1984.
Douglas James
Reply to Robert Brannen
One can learn all they need to know about the political disaster that has led to New Brunswick's sorry state of affairs simply by Googling the subject.
Ed Armstrong
Reply to Robert Brannen
What was that? Separating them from Halifax's authoritarian rule. Where did the order to expel the Acadians come from after 1763? a decision we are still paying for.
Ed Armstrong
Reply to Douglas James
Only if you filter the results yourself and ignore the ramblings of the zealots on both sides of centre
Ronald McCallum
Reply to Robert Brannen
"Perhaps there should be a waiting period before being able to vote in provincial elections for those moving to the province to endure, say about 20 years, as it is for those born in the province. "
UNCONSTITUTIONAL
That would be in conflict with the CONSTITUTION ACT 1982, Part I ---- CANADIAN CHARTER OF RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS, Section 3:
"Democratic rights of citizens
3 Every citizen of Canada has the right to vote in an election of members of the House of Commons or of a legislative assembly and to be qualified for membership therein."
Source: https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/const/
Ronald McCallum
Reply to Ed Armstrong
Ed, the CONSTITUTION ACT 1982 was proclaimed on the Seventeenth (17th) Day of April in The Year Of The Lord One Thousand Nine Hundred and Eighty-Two (1982), and it incorporates the CONSTITUTION ACT 1867 ---- formerly named the BRITISH NORTH AMERICA ACT 1867 ----- as Item One in the SCHEDULE TO THE CONSTITUTION ACT 1982!
FYI: https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/const/page-14.html#h-62
Ronald McCallum
Reply to Ed Armstrong
The Acadiens were expelled in 1755.
Kenneth Dwight
Reply to Robert Brannen
And neither do those people moving here. The province belongs to whomever resides here, not one particular cultural demographic
Ed Armstrong
Reply to Ronald McCallum
So my memory isn't as good as it used to be and I missed by a year, no biggie
Ed Armstrong
Reply to Ronald McCallum
Reply to Ronald McCallum
Again blame my memory but in reality, what difference does 8 years make 250+ yrs down the road
David Amos
Reply to Ed Armstrong
Methinks you should confer with Quebec about that N'esy Pas?
Ed Armstrong
Reply to David Amos
Reply to David Amos
Quebec didn't get their way and refused to sign
on, however, they still use the document to their advantage re:
Notwithstanding Clause to over ride the Supreme Court on Bill 101 the
Language law making French the only official language in Quebec.
Mulroney tried to appease them with the Meech Lake Accord but Canadians
shot that down too.
David Amos
Reply to Ed Armstrong
Reply to Ed Armstrong
Try telling me something I don't know Did you forget the first statement of my lawsuit against the Queen in 2015?
David Amos
Reply to Ed Armstrong
Reply to Ed Armstrong
BTW Methinks you forgot the Charlottetown Accord that cased a rather important referendum N'esy Pas?
Ed Armstrong
Reply to David Amos
Reply to David Amos
Doubt I ever read it
David Amos
Reply to Ed Armstrong
Reply to Ed Armstrong
Thats abundantly clear to me
David Amos
Reply to David Amos
Deja Vu Anyone?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276
Ed Armstrong
Reply to David Amos
Meh, about as important as Meech Lake, Canadians never accepted that Quebec was or needed to be known as a Distinct Society.
Robert Brannen
Reply to Robert Brannen
Reply to Robert Brannen
What was that? The Colony of Nova Scotia had a
Representative Assembly beginning in 1758, the first Responsible
Government in the British Empire. If the "loyal" citizens of
Northumberland County had concerns about their place in the colony, they
should have presented those concerns to the Council in Halifax rather
than petitioning the King in London.
Robert Brannen
Reply to Ronald McCallum
Reply to Ronald McCallum
Let a citizen under the age try to cast a vote, and see what happens.
Robert Brannen
Reply to Kenneth Dwight
Reply to Kenneth Dwight
I see concerns being expressed by those
interviewed in the story, and from both sides of the political spectrum.
That indicates a desire for something other than the status quo
David Amos
Reply to Ed Armstrong
Reply to Ed Armstrong
Trust that I am enjoying the Outhouse Conundrum
Ed Armstrong
Reply to David Amos
Glad you are, I'm not
David Amos
Reply to Ed Armstrong
Do think I should run again if only to give Outhouse and his boss Jenni Baby a headache?
Robert Brannen
Reply to David Amos
Rob Moore's attack on Trudeau's speaking
engagement in another N.B. riding raised Trudeau's profile sufficiently
enough to cause the Conservatives the lose election.
David Amos
Reply to Robert Brannen
Reply to Robert Brannen
You do know about that Justice Critic and I correct?
Ronald McCallum
Reply to Ed Armstrong
Reply to Ed Armstrong
"Quebec didn't get their way and refused to sign on,
however, they still use the document to their advantage re:
Notwithstanding Clause to over ride the Supreme Court on Bill 101 the
Language law making French the only official language in Quebec."
NEVERTHELESS, the Province of Quebec is BOUND by THE CONSTITUTION ACTS 1867 TO 1982 as one of the FEDERATED Provinces of Canada, colloquially known as The Kingdom of The Great White North.
Ronald McCallum
Reply to Ed Armstrong
Reply to Ed Armstrong
"Mulroney tried to appease them with the Meech Lake Accord but Canadians shot that down too."
Thanks To Be God as the Meech Lake Accord would have further DECENTRALIZED Canada.
Canada is considered by Constitutional and Political scholars as one of the three most DECENTRALIZED FEDERATIONS in the World.
Ronald McCallum
Reply to Robert Brannen
Reply to Robert Brannen
"1784 was the year in which the residents of what is now
New Brunswick made their most short-sighted political move."
Don't you mean when the United Kingdom of Great Britain separated what is now New Brunswick from Nova Scotia to form the newly created Colonial Province of New Brunswick in British North America?
Ronald McCallum
Reply to Ed Armstrong
Reply to Ed Armstrong
"Dave, the British North America Act of 1967 was not a
constitution but an act of the British Parliament basicly telling us how
to behave as an independent country."
Actually, the Dominion of Canada was NOT an independent country as it was part of THE BRITISH EMPIRE until the STATUTE OF WESTMINSTER 1931 was proclaimed on the Eleventh (11th) Day of December in The Year Of The Lord One Thousand Nine Hundred and Thirty-One and in the Twenty-Second Year Of His Majesty's Reign.
Ronald McCallum
Reply to Robert Brannen
Reply to Robert Brannen
However, a citizen of voting age can NOT be denied the Right To Vote by any extraordinary qualification period!
---------- Original message ---------
From: Ed Armstrong <edinnb@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Aug 22, 2024 at 2:15 PM
Subject: The Outhouse Conundrum
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
From: Ed Armstrong <edinnb@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Aug 22, 2024 at 2:15 PM
Subject: The Outhouse Conundrum
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Outhouse
is trying to turn this campaign into a US style shit storm. He is
pandering to those newcomers who are very right leaning from away and
alse from ON and AB. His negative ads may appeal to these new New
Brunswickers but they are pissing off every Red Tory in the Province.
This is not the direction I want my party of choice to move. Attitudes
like Outhouses or the Executive Director of the PC Party are not
conducive to our traditional "Down East Folksy" way of thinking. We may
differ on our choice of party but most times we can remain friendly to
each other. These 2 are trying to deliver the message "Us ve Them", we
must win at all cost.
Take care Dave
Ed
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Date: Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: RE PC rebels say majority of riding presidents support ousting Higgs
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Date: Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: RE PC rebels say majority of riding presidents support ousting Higgs
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Rebels are full of crap
https://www.cbc.ca/news/
Blaine Higgs drops 2 rebellious ministers in cabinet shuffle
Daniel Allain and Jeff Carr are out, replaced by newcomers
Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Jun 27, 2023 9:27 AM ADT
Collage of two photos of two men in blue suits MLAs Jeff Carr, left,
and Daniel Allain are no longer on Premier Blaine Higgs' cabinet.
(CBC)
Premier Blaine Higgs has reasserted his authority over his fractured
Progressive Conservative government by dumping two ministers who voted
against him on the contentious issue of New Brunswick's school
gender-identity policy.
In a cabinet shuffle Tuesday, Higgs dropped Local Government Minister
Daniel Allain and Transportation and Infrastructure Minister Jeff
Carr, sending them to the backbenches.
He made it clear that their breaking ranks in a key vote on Policy 713
had cost them their jobs, violating the principle of cabinet
solidarity.
"To go outside of that and to basically feel that it doesn't matter if
you're in cabinet or not — it does matter. And to not address the
situation is really putting the government in a very vulnerable
position," Higgs told reporters after a 9 a.m. swearing-in.
"We have to respect the parliamentary system that we're in, the
sanctity of cabinet, and the fact we'll have very frank and open
discussion in cabinet or in caucus, but in cabinet you have to have
solidarity."
Man in blue suit stepping out of black car Premier Blaine Higgs
arrives at Government House for a cabinet shuffle on Tuesday. (Jacques
Poitras/CBC)
The new additions to cabinet are Carleton-York MLA Richard Ames,
Moncton South MLA Greg Turner and St. Croix MLA Kathy Bockus. All are
first-timers as ministers.
Rejoining cabinet are Moncton Southwest MLA Sherry Wilson, who was in
cabinet from 2018 to 2020, and Oromocto-Lincoln-Fredericton MLA Mary
Wilson, who was shuffled out of cabinet last fall.
Allain and Carr make four ministers no longer in Higgs's cabinet.
WATCH | 'Cabinet support is paramount,' Higgs says:
Blaine Higgs explains why he dropped two cabinet ministers
Duration 1:20
Daniel Allain and Jeff Carr are out of New Brunswick’s cabinet.
Replacing them are new additions including Carleton-York MLA Richard
Ames, Moncton South MLA Greg Turner and St. Croix MLA Kathy Bockus.
The two other ministers, Dorothy Shephard and Trevor Holder, resigned,
both of them citing Higgs's leadership style that they said was at
odds with the values and traditions of the PC party.
All four voted with the opposition parties on June 15 to help pass a
Liberal motion calling for more consultations on Policy 713, which
sets out protections for LGBTQ students in provincial schools.
Higgs claimed that day that the vote was not whipped, but he said
Tuesday "I never made it a free vote, either."
WATCH | Catch up on why the N.B. government changed a policy aimed at
protecting LGBTQ students:
CBC News Explains: How did the New Brunswick government change Policy 713?
Duration 2:19
New Brunswick's Department of Education made several changes to a
policy designed to protect LGBTQ students, affecting sections on
self-identification, extracurricular activities and washrooms.
In the past, the premier has often tolerated minor acts of dissent in
his cabinet and caucus, referring to it as "a diverse group" that has
pushed the envelope the same way he did when he was the outspoken
finance minister in the Alward government.
But on Policy 713 Higgs has signalled he was losing patience.
"To take a position against the government in the legislature, voting
in the legislature, is very significant," he said Tuesday.
Carr and Allain both said Tuesday they understood from Higgs that it
was to be a free vote.
"Obviously the definition of free vote differs from one individual to
another," Allain said.
Both former ministers said they were questioning their futures in politics.
Allain said he was pondering whether "maybe there are other ways" for
him to serve, given the party "is in a crisis. … I'm asking the
question: is it worth the fight?"
He wouldn't say whether he supports the push for a review of Higgs's
leadership.
Medium shot of woman in grey suit smiling at a person off camera
Moncton Southwest MLA Sherry Wilson at Government House on Tuesday,
where she was appointed to cabinet. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)
Carr said he won't run in next year's provincial election if the
premier is still leading the party.
He said he was disappointed but understands why he was removed from
cabinet and did not regret his vote on Policy 713.
Carr insisted that the opposition motion called for exactly what the
PC caucus had been promised by Higgs — a role for the child and youth
advocate in determining if the policy changes were legally sound.
He also wished the new ministers well in Higgs's cabinet.
"If they feel satisfied with that type of leadership and governing,
then that's okay. I don't judge them for that."
Higgs told reporters after the shuffle he'll try to reach out to
unhappy grassroots members of the Progressive Conservative party, some
of whom are organizing to remove him as leader
"I think we have some building to do, there's no question of that," Higgs said.
"I need to play a key role in that, reaching out to the membership,
the executives throughout the province, and be able to sit down and
have some very good discussions."
New ministers proclaim support for premier
"I can guarantee you he doesn't have to ask me" about my loyalty, Mary
Wilson told reporters.
"I have no problem with our premier. I think he does a great job."
Ames proclaimed that "it's a new day, a new team, new cabinet, great
caucus — we're moving forward."
And Turner, who chaired the PC caucus until Tuesday, rejected the
claims by Shephard and Holder that Higgs didn't listen to his MLAs.
WATCH | The CBC's Jacques Poitras explains the process the governing
PC party must follow for dissenters to remove Blaine Higgs as leader:
CBC Explains: How does a leadership review work?
Duration 1:19
The CBC’s Jacques Poitras walks us through each step the PC party must
go through to remove a sitting premier.
"In any caucus meetings I was in, absolutely. I was in all the caucus
meetings. Absolutely," he said.
"Like any team, there has been a leader and there has been people who
support the leader," Turner said. "I have full confidence in his
leadership abilities for sure. There's no question about that."
Ames replaces Carr as minister of transportation and infrastructure,
while Saint John East MLA Glen Savoie gets a promotion by taking over
Allain's local government portfolio.
Allain was the senior francophone minister in government, representing
a language community with few MLAs in the PC caucus.
"He'll continue to be a valued member in our caucus and I'm sure he'll
continue to represent the community," Higgs said.
Woman in blue suit and yellow shirt, walking with umbrella and smiling
at camera Arlene Dunn arrives at Government House for a cabinet
shuffle on Tuesday. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)
Carr, Allain, Shephard, Holder and two other ministers, Arlene Dunn
and Jill Green, signed a statement earlier this month complaining
about a lack of transparency and process in the government's review of
Policy 713.
Dunn, who missed the June 15 vote but said the next day she'd have
voted with the opposition, remains in cabinet and takes over the
post-secondary education, labour and training duties that Holder held.
Asked why he kept her in cabinet, Higgs told reporters that "I know if
someone had been there, they might have done differently … but the
fact is they weren't there and they didn't stand against the
government."
Dunn told reporters after the cabinet shuffle that her issue had been
with Policy 713.
"I didn't think we should have touched that. I think we should have
stayed away from it," she said.
But beyond that, "I do have confidence in the leadership of the premier."
Poilievre tells Trudeau to 'butt out' of New Brunswick's policy on
LGBTQ students
Green also missed the June 15 vote and later said she didn't know how
she would have voted.
She's been promoted to minister of social development and also holds
on to the housing file, with her provincial housing strategy expected
to be released this week.
Opposition Liberal leader Susan Holt did not mention the internal PC
party turmoil in a tweet congratulating the new ministers.
"Our team is ready to work with you to address the issues most
important to New Brunswickers," she wrote.
New minister responsibilities:
Richard Ames — Minister of Transportation and Infrastructure,
former backbencher.
Jill Green — Minister of Social Development and responsible for
Economic and Social Inclusion Corporation; still responsible for New
Brunswick Housing Corporation,but no longer the Minister of Service
New Brunswick.
Arlene Dunn — Minister of Post-Secondary Education, Training and
Labour, remains Minister of Aboriginal Affairs and Minister
responsible for Immigration; no longer responsible for Economic
Development and Small Business and Opportunities N.B.
Greg Turner — Minister responsible for Opportunities N.B. and
Economic Development and Small Business, former backbencher.
Glen Savoie — Minister of Local Government and still responsible
for la Francophonie.
Mary Wilson — Minister of Service New Brunswick and responsible
for Military Affairs; former backbencher shuffled out of cabinet last
fall.
Tammy Scott-Wallace — remains Minister of Tourism, Heritage and
Culture, but no longer Minister responsible for Women's Equality.
Sherry Wilson — Minister responsible for Women's Equality and for
Addictions and Mental Health Services; minister from 2018 to 2020 who
became a backbencher after the 2020 election.
Kathy Bockus — Minister responsible for Seniors, former backbencher.
ABOUT THE AUTHOR
Jacques Poitras
Provincial Affairs reporter
Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New
Brunswick since 2000. He grew up in Moncton and covered Parliament in
Ottawa for the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal. He has reported on
every New Brunswick election since 1995 and won awards from the Radio
Television Digital News Association, the National Newspaper Awards and
Amnesty International. He is also the author of five non-fiction books
about New Brunswick politics and history.
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David Amos
"We serve at the pleasure of the premier."
David Amos
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Food for thought on the BBQ circuit this summer.
What if a new right wing political party is created in NB and Higgy
dissolves the PC Party like his buddy Austin did with the PANB
recently and MacKay did 20 years ago?
David Amos
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Reply to David Amos
Methinks quite a circus would begin if Higgy joined the new party as
its interim leader N'esy Pas?
David Amos
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Methinks Higgy just sealed the deal to go to war with Mr Allian and
his pals Now they will battle for the Leadership N'esy Pas?
David Amos
I maintain Danny Boy will win the battle for leadership
Ed Armstrong
Reply to David Amos
If there is a leadership convention than that is a distinct
possibility but there has to be a vacancy at the top first and with 15
months to go before an election, there is no way to dispose of the
current leader, hold a leadership race and convention and have the new
leader prepared to fight an election and win. Danny Boy is not stupid
enough to cut off his nose to spite his face. He's a much smarter man
than I am (I think), if I can read the timeline, I'm sure he can as
well. He would be in much better shape to wait till after the Sept
2024 election and step into a leadership race at that point if a
vacancy at the top occurs.
David Amos
Reply to Ed Armstrong
Are you dudes gonna send me some more butter tarts if I am right?
David Amos
Reply to Ed Armstrong
BTW The caucus can get rid of Higgy and appoint an interim leader
Ed Armstrong
Reply to David Amos
No, only the party can dump the leader. That is the big difference
between Britian's Westminster System and Canada's. Britian's Caucus
does elect the leader and can dump them at any time. In Canada all
Party Members have the right to vote for their leader and under the
rules can bit them out as well. I definitely like our rules better.
David Amos
Reply to Ed Armstrong
There more than one way to skin a cat
Dee MacDonald
The silent majority has the final say.
David Amos
Reply to Dee MacDonald
I concur
Marcel Belanger
Reply to Dee MacDonald
Not yet...not yet.
Robert Borden
Reply to Dee MacDonald
Over half the party ridings want a leadership review. Seems the
majority isn't silent, and so far haven't the say.
Craig McMaster
Reply to Dee MacDonald
When Higgs' own Party is turning on him, I don't think he has the
majority anymore...
val harris
Higgs has added to his Puppet show .. NB is in for a real treat...
David Amos
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Reply to val harris
I will trade you some popcorn for peanuts
Sterling Wright
Reply to val harris
Well we are in for something. But I don't think treat is quite the right word.
David Amos
Reply to Sterling Wright
Not for you perhaps but lots of us are getting quite a chuckle
Dacre Gushue
I still think Arlene Dunn should be out as well. She did sign the
letter and "missed" the vote.
David Amos
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Reply to Dacre Gushue
Why not ask the Fat Fred City Finest why her position is secure?
Rachel Woods
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Reply to Dacre Gushue
Sterling Wright
Reply to Rachel Woods
That has always been the case for the old parties
val harris
Where is Lou Bell?
Ben Haroldson
Reply to val harris
He's in Freddy getting sworn in.
David Amos
Reply to val harris
Hiding under a rock
Mac Isaac
What I see as most disappointing...let's face it: Higgs is a huge
disappointment, but what is most disappointing is that the provincial
cabinet is now completely filled with a bunch of Higgs sycophants who
will toe the party line but not really offer new thoughts or hopes for
the people of New Brunswick.
David Amos
Reply to Mac Isaac
Welcome back to the circus
Andrew Martin
Reply to Mac Isaac
You may believe Higgs is a disappointment, but that is your opinion,
not fact. If he was such a disappointment, he wouldn't have been
re-elected with a majority. Opinions dont equate to fact.
David Amos
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Reply to Andrew Martin
Methinks Higgy won because Vickers lost N'esy Pas?
Jake Quinlan
Reply to Andrew Martin
Rode the Covid wave (or lack of Covid in NB in 2020).
Benny Swim
Reply to Mac Isaac
That was then and this is now. Even Poitras now seems to understand
who Higgs is. Half the PCs in the province (over half of the local
riding presidents have asked him to resign) will stay home if an
election is called. That is an opinion and not fact.
They will be bolstered by the fact that Susan Holt and the Liberals
have not given any reason for them or us to think she/they will govern
much differently then the PCs. In that they will keep the fee cuts for
billionaires on crown land, and tax free living for the Irving
enterprises.
NBers should make sure that neither the Liberals or the Conservatives
get a majority the next time we vote. Look what happens when we don't
do that. The premier of the day begins to think that the province
belongs to him/her and their advisors.
Benny Swim
Reply to Benny Swim
The above comment was meant for Andrew Martin, not Mac Isaac.
Donald LeBlanc
Reply to Andrew Martin
How is your opinion fact?
Roland Stewart
Reply to Mac Isaac
None of them could care less about Higgs or his policies or the people
of the province. They are there for the money and perks that come with
the job.
Sterling Wright
Reply to Mac Isaac
You nailed it
Donald LeBlanc
Reply to Benny Swim
You’re right, the Liberals under Holt need to prove that they are not
the Party of the past. They have to show NBers that the billionaires
will finally lose power, that regular folks will not be footing the
bills while watching our services collapse. Watching the Legislature
(as little of it there is) there seems to be hope in some of these new
Liberal MLAs and Leader. Now they have to start proving it’s for real,
not something that disappears the minute they take power. NBs are fed
up with that scenario.
Donald LeBlanc
Reply to Benny Swim
And you’re absolutely right on the need for a Minority Government.
Ross Wetmore said in the Legislature that for all his years (13) in
Government, the 2018 Minority Government was the best he had worked
in. He seemed very emotional about what has become of Government in
NB.
Robert Borden
Reply to Andrew Martin
Over half the party ridings are calling for a leadership review,
that's a fact, and also shows significant disappointment within the
party. At least a third of his Cabinet, at least until this move, was
also in open rebellion against him. That certainly shows a significant
level of disappointment within his own elected members.
Your provided "fact" is a vote that is only for his riding, not for
him as leader. In Alberta Kenney's UPC got elected with a strong
majority yet he was ousted by his party. What you've outlined as
"fact" is basically the scenario that happened in Alberta.
Andrew Martin
Reply to Robert Borden
I guess we'll see what happen with the next election. The ridings may
be calling for a review, but are the actual voters calling for it? We
dont really know 100%, we can estimate, poll etc, but we dont really
know whats on every voters mind until election time.
Andrew Martin
Reply to Donald LeBlanc
Winning a democratically instituted voting system where you win the
majority of votes should be enough evidence of the majority agreeing.
Therefore its not an opinion, but a fact.
Ross Mills
Reply to Andrew Martin
Higgs's job is to represent the views of the people who voted for him.
If he caves, it will be a huge disappointment for those who voted for
him. If necessary, he may need to call an election to prove this.
Robert Borden
Reply to Andrew Martin
Again, voters vote for their MLA, the party votes for the leader. Even
if voters want the conservatives to remain in power, it doesn't mean
they want Higgs as their premier.
Same thing happened in Alberta with Kenney, and quite possibly will
happen with Smith, and I'd even go so far as including the federal
Liberals with Trudeau.
Higgs doesn't seem to have the support of his party and it could be
completely irrelevant what the voters want. If the party wants him
out, he'll be gone.
Andrew Martin
Reply to Robert Borden
And if the voters wanted him running it and the party votes him out,
then they may get voted out
Donald LeBlanc
Reply to Andrew Martin
It’s also a fact that the unvaccinated Pandemic Election Majority was
won with 26% of eligible voters. This was after success in a Minority
Government scenario with Higgs near the top in the approval rating
polls. The opinion is that after receiving his Majority it seems that
was the beginning of his missteps and downward trend, IMO.
claude bourgeois
Can't call them Progressive Conservatives anymore. Just Conservatives.
Jake Quinlan
Reply to claude bourgeois
Chip off the federal block. They hired that consultant from western
canada - here we are.
Donald LeBlanc
Reply to claude bourgeois
Just what Higgs wants. Guess PP is in the area, two peas in a pod.
Another use for the initials PP.
David Amos
Reply to claude bourgeois
C'est Vrai
https://www.cbc.ca/news/
Higgs accused of launching 'vicious' attack on PC critic during Saturday meeting
Former president tells premier to ‘get over it’ ahead of Tuesday cabinet shuffle
Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Jun 26, 2023 11:04 AM ADT
A man with grey hair and glasses, wearing a dark suit, white shirt and
tie, speaks to reporters. New Brunswick Premier Blaine Higgs is facing
a revolt within his Progressive Conservative caucus and in the party.
(CBC)
New Brunswick Premier Blaine Higgs has been accused of launching "a
vicious verbal attack" against a member of the provincial Progressive
Conservative party's governing body who questioned his leadership.
Regional vice-president John Williston said the premier was "over the
top" and "aggressive" when he shouted at the member of the PC
provincial council on the weekend.
"He was clearly in a complete rage," Williston told CBC's Information
Morning Fredericton.
"If this is how the premier speaks to his cabinet, if this is how the
premier communicates with his caucus, it's clearly a toxic work
environment that none of us would be willing to accept in our own
places of business."
Higgs is facing a revolt within his PC caucus and in the party over
his leadership style, which critics say is a top-down system that
ignores expertise and allows little input from ministers and MLAs.
Medium shot of man smiling at camera John Williston, a regional
vice-president of the Progressive Conservative Party, says the premier
shouted at a member of the PC provincial council on the weekend.
(Submitted by John Williston)
Two ministers, Dorothy Shephard and Trevor Holder, have resigned from
his cabinet in the last two weeks over their concerns about his
approach.
Higgs's spokesperson Nicolle Carlin told CBC News on Monday morning
that the premier will shuffle his cabinet on Tuesday.
Two other ministers, Daniel Allain and Jeff Carr, joined Shephard and
Holder in voting against the government on June 15.
WATCH | Daniel Allain on current state of the PC party:
PC arguments about Higgs are 'arduous, tumultuous and in the public,'
minister says
Duration 1:10
Daniel Allain comments on an internal battle within New Brunswick's
governing Progressive Conservative party. Premier Blaine Higgs has
come under fire inside caucus and across the party.
Allain said Monday afternoon he hadn't been told yet if he'd still be
a minister on Tuesday.
"There's a process," he said at a news conference in Grand Bouctouche.
"We serve at the pleasure of the premier."
Allain and the three other ministers helped to pass an opposition
Liberal motion calling for further consultations on the government's
Policy 713, which sets out protections for LGBTQ+ students in schools.
WATCH | Jacques Poitras breaks down what rebelling PCs need to do to
remove a sitting premier:
CBC Explains: How does a leadership review work?
Duration 1:19
The CBC’s Jacques Poitras walks us through each step the PC party must
go through to remove a sitting premier.
All four helped to pass an opposition Liberal motion calling for
further consultations on the government's Policy 713, which sets out
protections for LGBTQ students in schools.
That vote crystallized a growing discontent within the party that
Shephard said goes far beyond just Policy 713.
School year wraps up with bitterness and uncertainty among teachers
Premier Higgs says he won't resign after calls for his removal
Former party president Claude Williams said last week that there are
letters from presidents of 26 PC riding associations asking for a
leadership review — more than the 20 required to force the provincial
council to vote on whether to hold a vote.
Higgs looks at 'path forward'
Williston said the letters weren't submitted at Saturday's meeting
because the number continues to grow, with two more presidents signing
on after the meeting because of the premier's behaviour.
Higgs said on Saturday that there was "a good frank open discussion
here and I think we have a path forward."
Asked about Williams telling reporters he was disappointed in comments
by the premier in the meeting, Higgs said his remarks were "about team
building, it was about us working together and having good discussions
internally."
But Williston said Higgs's comments were "almost borderline shocking."
WATCH | In May, Higgs called for a controversial review of Policy 713:
Premier Blaine Higgs defends his government's review of Policy 713
Duration 2:03
Higgs says schools should have to inform parents if a child under 16
wants to change their names or pronouns, and young children should not
be exposed to drag queen storytimes.
He also said the premier's critics tried to introduce a motion to
schedule a special meeting of the council before the fall to deal with
the leadership review issue but were ruled out of order based on
procedure.
"Some people in the party are trying to to rag the puck," he said.
PC party president Erika Hachey, who ran Saturday's meeting, said
Monday morning she had no comment on Williston's description of the
discussion.
Williston said Higgs claimed in the meeting he was blameless for the
party's poor election showings in francophone New Brunswick, pointing
the finger instead at what he called negative coverage in the
French-language newspaper L'Acadie Nouvelle.
LISTEN | John Williston and Brian Harquail tell Information Morning
host Jeanne Armstrong it's time for Blaine Higgs to resign:
Information Morning - Fredericton15:12
PC party rebellion
Are the days numbered for Blaine Higgs as leader of New Brunswick's
PC party? Jeanne Armstrong spoke to two party members who say it's
time for the Premier to take a final bow. John Williston, a regional
vice-president with the party, and Brian Harquail, former PC party
president and one of the people who signed the letter calling for
Higgs to resign.
Former PC party president Brian Harquail, who did not attend the
meeting, told Information Morning that if Higgs can't unite his caucus
and his party, he doesn't deserve to be governing New Brunswick.
"I was elected twice as president and we have a reputation of eating
our young, and blaming somebody else for our own mistakes," he said.
"Well, it's time we took control and started to lead the party in the
right direction."
'Things are going to escalate'
Harquail was one of four former presidents who signed a letter last
week calling on Higgs to resign to avoid a divisive, drawn-out
leadership review fight.
He scoffed at Higgs blaming negative media coverage for his lack of
popularity in francophone New Brunswick.
Another N.B. cabinet minister quits as turmoil over Higgs's
leadership deepens
5 questions answered about the LGBTQ school policy debate
"To attack the newspaper for doing their job is childish and shows a
very, very strong lack of leadership," he said.
"Get over it, Blaine, because that's life and that's the way it is.
And you wanted the job, so let's get on with it."
Mediu shot of man in suit Former Progressive Conservative party
president Claude Williams previously said there are letters from
presidents of 26 PC riding associations asking for a leadership
review. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)
Williston said far from calming down, he believes that "things are
going to escalate" in the party's internal battle.
He said the premier will eventually have to realize that he can no
longer govern and that an election would be a risk now because many PC
members in local riding associations won't work for him as leader.
ABOUT THE AUTHOR
Jacques Poitras
Provincial Affairs reporter
Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New
Brunswick since 2000. He grew up in Moncton and covered Parliament in
Ottawa for the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal. He has reported on
every New Brunswick election since 1995 and won awards from the Radio
Television Digital News Association, the National Newspaper Awards and
Amnesty International. He is also the author of five non-fiction books
about New Brunswick politics and history.
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David Amos
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Methinks Higgy's beloved caucus may turn on him in short order now
that only 17 of them got a new car and a big raise N'esy Pas?
David Amos
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Somebody has attacked my blog about this nonsense 11 times since
yesterday afternoon and I have a pretty good idea who is doing it
David Amos
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Methinks Higgy just sealed the deal to go to war with Mr Allian and
his pals Now they will battle for the Leadership N'esy Pas?
David Amos
"We serve at the pleasure of the premier."
I continue to maintain that Daniel Allain will be the next Leader/Premier
Kyle Woodman
Reply to David Amos
You might be on to something. He managed the optics of municipal
reform fairly well given how unpopular it was.
Don Corey
Reply to David Amos
I hope you’re right on the next leader. If indeed it’s Allain, he’ll
also win the next election and the libs will no longer have Higgs to
continually complain about.
David Amos
Reply to Kyle Woodman
More importantly he is French Minister in Moncton and a Bernie Lord buddy
Ben Haroldson
Reply to Kyle Woodman
Ya think lol?
Kyle Woodman
Reply to Ben Haroldson
It could have been a complete disaster given how angry people were.
Given the context I think he handled it with some competency. I don't
really know much about Allain. Seems to know when to keep his head
down.
David Amos
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David Amos
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Alward appoints faithful to key positions
CBC News · Posted: Oct 14, 2010 6:49 AM ADT
New Brunswick Premier David Alward appointed Tory faithful to key
deputy minister posts Thursday, reversing a vow to change the way in
which appointments are made by the provincial government.
The appointments include Daniel Allain to the key position of
president and chief executive officer of NB Liquor. Dana Clendenning,
the Liberal-appointed president of the Crown corporation, left his
position last week with a taxpayer-funded severance package.
Previous premiers Shawn Graham and Bernard Lord both selected party
loyalists for the job, which pays between $150,000 and $175,000 per
year.
David Amos
"But Mark Paul-Elias, the president of the PC's Fredericton-Grand Lake
Riding Association, said the majority of the party stands behind the
premier"
Mack Leigh
Reply to David Amos
And that speaks volumes....
Graham McCormack
Reply to David Amos
And Trump say she was the best president ever. People say a lot of
things, doesn't mean they are true.
Andrew Hebda
Reply to David Amos
He has unique insight (outside of the Fredericton-Grand Lake riding)?
Gregory Pittaway
Reply to David Amos
I think that's going to be proven fantacy very shortly. Lol.
David Amos
Reply to Gregory Pittaway
Trust that I don't trust anything a lawyer says particularly one who
is supporting our latest Justice Minister
Rhys Philbin
Lol. Caucus revolt.
Two ministers stand down yet hold on to the golden paycheque
David Amos
Reply to Rhys Philbin
Oh My MY Are you having as much fun as I?
Daniel Franklin
Higgs is bad for NB and is giving us a bad name. He's worse for NB
than Jason Kenney was for Alberta.
Andrew Martin
Reply to Daniel Franklin
Best leader NB has had in decades..... maybe are envious that higgs is
taking a stand against the nonsense.
Inger Nielsen
Reply to Andrew Martin
sorry you feel that way I feel that childrens lives matter childrens
voices matter and childrens rights matter
David Amos
Reply to Daniel Franklin
Relax and enjoy the circus
Ken Hastings
Reply to Daniel Franklin
But, Danielle Smith is worse than Higgs and Kenney put together!
Fred Brewer
What has Higgs done for renewables in NB?
2016 was the first year when there were more people employed in
renewable energy worldwide than there were in oil and gas worldwide.
Since then the job growth in renewables has continued to grow. But
Higgs head was firmly stuck in the oilsands and NB has lost out on
huge, well-paid job growth opportunities in renewables. Time for him
to go.
Ronald Miller
Reply to Fred Brewer
Our total renewable capacity in 2018 stood at 30.6%, in 2023 it now
stands at 40.4%. Conversely, our Oil and Diesel was at 35.2%, it is
now 15.5%. Looks like that debt clock needs another adjustment.
Andrew Martin
Reply to Fred Brewer
The cost of renewables is not as attractive to NB due to our already
low rates. The shift in job demographics you mention is not born of
something other than government making O n G job extinct due to
hindering policies.
David Amos
Reply to Ronald Miller
Say Hey to Little Lou for me will ya?
Shawn Tabor
This just keeps on getting better and better. The drama of it all.
Shows you the ( cracks ). What should these folks really be doing.
David Amos
Reply to Shawn Tabor
Welcome back to the circus
Frank Brace
Perhaps Higgs could be sent to a psychologist for counselling
David Amos
Reply to Frank Brace
Why not just put the old goat out to pasture? The Conservatives may
need him again in the future
Michael Hutton
Reply to Frank Brace
Only if his parents approve
Andrew Hebda
Reply to Frank Brace
In all honesty.. we all have our days... when we have to vent...
however, in this case, based on what we have seen in the news during
the last several weeks seems to be something more "persistent"
Frank Brace
Reply to Michael Hutton
Touche, make him tell them
Walter Alison
Reply to Frank Brace
Don't you really mean social conditioning and brainwashing?
Benny Swim
Reply to Frank Brace
But not one in a school as there are none.
Michael Cain
Reply to Frank Brace
anger mangement problem; makes decisions in the heat of the moment.
Frank Brace
Reply to Walter Alison
That's already occurred and why he needs help
Mike Carruthers
Any leader will have a nasty streak when subordinates decide to not
follow their instructions. Just ask Jody Wilson-Raybould.
David Amos
Content Deactivated
Reply to Mike Carruthers
While you are at it why not ask Jody about my lawsuit which I filed
and began arguing before she was elected?
Michael Murphy
Reply to Mike Carruthers
So Trudeau was right, or Higgs is wrong?
Walter Alison
Reply to Michael Murphy
Trudeau is never right. Hence, Higgs is not wrong.
Andrew Hebda
Reply to Mike Carruthers
In Minister Wilson Raybould's case she was offered a choice... In this
case... no choice.. just public berating.
Michael Cain
Reply to Mike Carruthers
She failed at the job miserably.
Robt Greene
'Vicious verbal attack.'
'He was clearly in a complete rage'
We've had hints of this from Ottawa. One incident, about six yrs ago,
that made it to a couple of papers, was the time when he jumped up on
a desk and started screaming a profanity laden 10 min outburst at an
MP who dared to voice what his constituents wanted.
No story on this site about it though. And you can be damned sure they
knew all about it.
David Amos
Reply to Robt Greene
Reporters witnessed our little hoedown in public in October and said
nothing either
Dacre Gushue
Reply to Robt Greene
You need to add more context here. Not sure who or what you're talking about.
David Amos
Reply to Dacre Gushue
I finally got a Health Care Card Correct?
Benny Swim
So because Trudeau does it, it is fine for Higgs? Whataboutism is a
weak argument. Like kids saying "well Mary and Mark did it so why am I
being given a hard time"". BTW, Trudeau is a lousy leader too.
David Amos
Reply to Benny Swim
They both replaced their Health Ministers Correct?
Robt Greene
Reply to Benny Swim
Not at all what I was saying.
One is front page news on here.
The other incidents are totally ignored by this site.
David Amos
Reply to David Amos
PC official wants Blaine Higgs's leadership put to review
PC party official hopes for discussion of N.B. premier's leadership at
annual general meeting
Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Oct 18, 2022 6:15 PM AT
Blaine Higgs recently told Brunswick News that he’ll announce during
his State of the Province speech in the new year whether he plans to
retire ahead of the next election in 2024 or seek another mandate.
(Jacques Poitras/CBC)
Bruce Dagsvik
At this rate NB will see a COR comeback with Higgs as leader taking
them into the 2024 election.
Dacre Gushue
Reply to Bruce Dagsvik
That's not all bad.
David Amos
Reply to Bruce Dagsvik
Methinks many would agree that you are more right than wrong N'esy Pas?
Toby Tolly
jacques ... the 1 hit wonder
Emmanuel Rochon
Reply to Toby Tolly
Oh how some like to blame the messenger!
David Amos
Content Deactivated
Reply to Emmanuel Rochon
C'est Vrai
Zoe Richmond
Premier Higgs has won two elections, of course the media is all over
him like the plague.
Elliott Stranger
Reply to Zoe Richmond
It’s not the media he has to worry about. His own party wants him gone.
Andrew Hebda
Reply to Zoe Richmond
It is not the media that is confronting him... It is (what were
formerly his own people
Emmanuel Rochon
Reply to Zoe Richmond
Well that's quite the leap!
Roosevelt Smith
Reply to Emmanuel Rochon
seems blaming the media is pretty on par for these folks:
pointing the finger instead at what he called negative coverage in the
French-language newspaper L'Acadie Nouvelle.
Sam Crawford
Reply to Zoe Richmond
Hoodwinking an electorate in no means equates to good governance.
Craig McMaster
Reply to Zoe Richmond
Premier Higgs is losing the support of his own Party and the press is
doing their job by telling us about it...
David Amos
Reply to Sam Crawford
Oh So True
Rick Rheubottom
When cornered the typical politician will lash out in a defensive
tactic disguised as aggression. If ignored the hackles come down and
typically they rest.
Andrew Hebda
Reply to Rick Rheubottom
I prefer politicians who can control their temper (and their hackles)
David Amos
Reply to Andrew Hebda
Clive Gibbons
Judging by the contempt he has for his team, imagine how he feels
about what regular New Brunswickers think.
David Amos
Reply to Clive Gibbons
Imagine?
James Smythe
And here I thought conservatives detested top-down governance and
centralized power
13 older comments.
David Novak
Reply to Craig McMaster
This article is about internal party frictions. How is Trudeau acting
like a Conservative? There is little comparable internal friction
within the Liberal Party. Alberta's Premier is watching behind her
back and Higgs seems to be now too, both conservatives. And of course
we can imagine that there might still be a few real conservatives out
there who might fundamentally disagree with the direction the federal
party is headed.
David Amos
Content Deactivated
Reply to James Smythe
Imagine?
On 6/25/23, David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
> BTW Higgy's old buddy Dominic Cardy is about to speak about 713 on
> CBC Radio's Cross Country Checkup
>
> https://www.cbc.ca/radio/
>
> Is Canada becoming more or less accepting of LGBTQ rights?
>
> What conversations are you having? Call us: 1-888-416-8333
> CBC Radio · Posted: Jun 23, 2023 1:35 PM ADT
>
> Cross Country Checkup: Is Canada becoming more or less accepting of
> LGBTQ rights?
> 54 minutes ago
> Live
> It's Pride weekend in Toronto, but it comes at a time where advocates
> say trans people are being targeted and harmful rhetoric is on the
> rise. What conversations are you having?
>
> Toronto is hosting Pride celebrations this weekend, but it comes at a
> time where advocates say trans people are being targeted and harmful
> rhetoric is on the rise.
>
> In New Brunswick, the provincial government's decision to change an
> education policy on gender identity has caused significant controversy
> and even turmoil within the government. The changes make it mandatory
> for teachers to get parental consent before using a student's chosen
> name and pronouns.
>
> School psychologists as well as child welfare, education and human
> rights experts have all come out against these changes.
>
> Our question this week: Is Canada becoming more or less accepting of
> LGBTQ rights? What conversations are you having?
>
> Our Ask Me Anything segment this week features former Conservative
> leader Erin O'Toole. O'Toole resigned his seat as an MP at the end of
> the House of Commons' spring session this past Wednesday. What
> questions do you have?
>
> Join host Ian Hanomansing on CBC Radio One and CBC Listen and CBC News
> Network. Call Checkup at 1-888-416-8333, send an email text
> (226-758-8924) or find us on Facebook.
>
> https://davidraymondamos3.
>
> Wednesday, 21 June 2023
>
> PC rebels say majority of riding presidents support ousting Higgs
>
>
> https://www.cbc.ca/news/
>
> Premier Higgs says he won't resign after calls for his removal
> Higgs intends to stay on even after the resignations of 2 cabinet ministers
>
> CBC News · Posted: Jun 24, 2023 5:30 PM ADT
>
>
> Premier Blaine Higgs Premier Blaine Higgs said a resignation isn't in
> the cards. (Lars Schwarz/CBC)
>
> Premier Blaine Higgs said he's not going anywhere after a Progressive
> Conservative party meeting in Fredericton on Saturday.
>
> When asked what's next for him and the party, Higgs batted down any
> suggestion of stepping aside.
>
> "It won't be a resignation," Higgs said.
>
> The premier has been under pressure to step aside after changes to
> Policy 713 — a policy designed to protect LGBTQ students in schools —
> prompted the resignations of two cabinet ministers and letters from
> more than 20 riding presidents calling on Higgs to resign.
>
> Higgs said there was no formal discussion at the meeting about a
> possible leadership review, but did say he wants to work with the
> party and his caucus to resolve any issues behind closed doors.
>
> "I think we have a path forward here as we work through some of our
> issues," he said.
>
> Another N.B. cabinet minister quits as turmoil over Higgs's
> leadership deepens
>
> 5 questions answered about the LGBTQ school policy debate
>
> Claude Williams, a former president of the party who attended the
> meeting, said the reason there was no formal discussion about a
> leadership review is because the rules of the meeting made it
> impossible.
>
> He also said he was disappointed in the premier's closing remarks to
> the meeting, but didn't elaborate further.
> Support cloudy
>
> The amount of support the premier has in caucus, and in the party, is
> up for debate.
>
> On Wednesday, CBC News reported at least 22 riding presidents have
> written letters calling for a leadership review vote.
>
> But Mark Paul-Elias, the president of the PC's Fredericton-Grand Lake
> Riding Association, said the majority of the party stands behind the
> premier.
>
> While he admitted not everyone was supportive of Higgs — mentioning at
> least one person who walked out of the meeting — Paul-Elias maintained
> the premier has the party's support.
>
> "You don't have a family that doesn't have the odd person who doesn't
> agree with what's going on. But the party is really united and we
> intend to stay united," he said.
>
> With files from Lars Schwarz
> CBC's Journalistic Standards and Practices
>
>
>
> 198 Comments
>
>
>
> David Amos
> "The turmoil within New Brunswick's Progressive Conservative Party
> was deepening Friday morning as another minister quit Premier Blaine
> Higgs's cabinet and four former top party officials demanded the
> premier resign.
>
> Portland-Simonds MLA Trevor Holder, the longest-serving MLA in the
> legislature, announced in an open letter he was quitting as minister
> of post-secondary education, training and labour.
>
> "Under the leadership of Premier Higgs, caucus has been less about
> consensus and more about him getting his own way," Holder wrote.
>
> Holder's letter was sent out just one hour after four past presidents
> of the party called on Higgs to resign immediately.
>
> "We ask that you avoid a disruptive, public battle that could tear the
> party apart. We ask that you leave graciously," the letter says.
>
> The letter is signed by Claude Williams, Lester Young, Brian Harquail
> and Jason Stephen, all former presidents of the New Brunswick party."
>
>
>
>
> David Amos
> Imagine if Higgy as Leader decides to dissolve the PC Party like his
> buddy Austin did to the PANB recently and MacKay did to the federal PC
> Party in 20 years ago?
>
>
>
>
> David Amos
> "Higgs's past involvement with the anti-bilingualism Confederation of
> Regions party — alarming to many francophones — underscored that he
> was truly different."
>
>
> David Amos
> Reply to David Amos
> "Only three sitting PC MLAs endorsed him, an indicator of how his more
> conventional colleagues saw his maverickness.
>
> So he signed up countless new party members to go around them.
>
> He told those recruits that "it doesn't matter what the party's called
> — use the PC Party as a conduit to change politics in New Brunswick."
>
> David Amos
> Reply to David Amos
> "Most MLAs who worked with Higgs in the Alward cabinet endorsed other
> leadership candidates in 2016 and chafed at his open disdain for
> old-fashioned party ways.
>
> "When it's done right … politics is what makes things happen," veteran
> Portland-Simonds member Trevor Holder said at the time.
>
> "Sometimes that takes political friendships and alliances to get that
> done."
>
> David Amos
> Reply to David Amos
> "The main accusation by his caucus critics is that he cuts them out of
> his decision-making process.
>
> His 2020 push for health reforms — including the proposed closure of
> small hospital emergency departments — cost him his only francophone
> MLA at the time, Robert Gauvin.
>
> Gauvin's father was the late Jean Gauvin, a longtime member of Richard
> Hatfield's cabinet who helped keep the embers of PC support flickering
> in Shippagan during the party's 12-year exile from power.
>
> Jean Gauvin also stood by Hatfield when party rebels tried to remove
> him from the leadership in 1985 — so his son's move to the Liberals is
> another symbol of Higgs's break with party history. "
>
> David Amos
> Content Deactivated
> Reply to David Amos
> "Another francophone who backed Hatfield during that battle,
> Jean-Pierre Ouellet from Madawaska-Les Lacs-Edmundston, is now part of
> the push to dump Higgs, arguing the premier is advancing ideas
> inimical to the PC Party.
>
> "As far as I'm concerned, he's trying to implement a platform that was
> the CoR platform when he was campaigning for the CoR party in the
> 1980s," Ouellete said."
>
> Jos Allaire
> Reply to David Amos
> He was and still is different!
>
>
> David Amos
> Reply to Jos Allaire
> Methinks many folks in Madawaska-Les Lacs-Edmundston agree with you N'esy
> Pas?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> David Amos
> "Former PC cabinet minister Jody Carr, whose brother Jeff Carr is a
> minister in the government and among those who voted for the motion,
> tweeted Thursday that it was sad to see Higgs "lose the confidence of
> his party, caucus and citizens, and be the last one to realize it."
>
>
>
>
> David Amos
> On June 21st PC Party president Erika Hachey said in an email she had
> not received any letters yet from riding presidents calling for a
> review.
>
>
>
>
>
> David Amos
> "But Mark Paul-Elias, the president of the PC's Fredericton-Grand Lake
> Riding Association, said the majority of the party stands behind the
> premier"
>
>
> Gregory Pittaway
> Reply to David Amos
> Jeez, never seen this much turmoil in a party that has such confidence
> in its leader.
>
>
> David Amos
> Content Deactivated
> Reply to Gregory Pittaway
> Check out the circus in the Ottawa or England or Scotland or Russia or
> the USA etc Methinks New Brunswick is small potatoes N'esy Pas?
>
>
> Christine White
> Reply to David Amos
> Who is Mark speaking for?
>
> Not the voting public.
>
> David Amos
> Reply to Christine White
> Higgy
>
>
>
>
> Wilbur Ross
> Call the Irving complaint line and tell them to fire this guy.
>
>
> Buford Wilson
> Reply to Wilbur Ross
> (Hilarious!)
>
>
> David Amos
> Reply to Wilbur Ross
> Good luck with that
>
>
>
>
>
> Doug kirby
> His past employment has taught him to never back down
>
>
> David Amos
> Reply to Doug kirby
> No doubt
>
>
> Gregory Pittaway
> Reply to Doug kirby
> His past employment certainly didn't teach him to consult with experts
> so this is what we get. An uneducated leader who does not care to
> consult with those who know more than him. Just mine a vein of half
> truths for cheap political points, children be damned.
>
>
> Michael Cain
> Reply to Doug kirby
> His past employment taught him that a bully gets things done.
>
>
> G. Timothy Walton
> Reply to Doug kirby
> Elect political outsiders, get people with politics outside their skillset.
>
>
> David Amos
> Reply to G. Timothy Walton
> I resemble that remark
>
>
>
>
>
> Keith McLellan
> The most divisive premier ever! Higgs has to go!
>
>
> David Amos
> Reply to Keith McLellan
> Amen
>
>
>
>
> Lorelei Stott
> great news, hold the hill Mr. Higgs, appreciate your stance and common
> sense middle ground
>
>
> David Amos
> Content Deactivated
> Reply to Lorelei Stott
> No doubt Humpty Dumpty had his fans too
>
>
> Gregory Pittaway
> Reply to Lorelei Stott
> That you call this "middle ground" is hilarious and telling. Lol.
>
>
> David Amos
> Reply to Gregory Pittaway
> I continue to maintain that Daniel J. Allain will be the next PC
> Leader/Premier in short order
>
>
>
>
>
> Kat Jo
> Imagine, believing parents should be involved in the rearing of their
> children.
>
>
> Rachel Woods
> Reply to Kat Jo
> A child’s gender identity has no impact on the “rearing” aspect of a
> parent. Their support, love, and attention should not be impacted by
> their gender identity.
>
> That’s why in this one singular niche situation the parent should be
> left out, if the child specifically requests it.
>
> Parents are still informed and involved in literally everything else.
>
> David Amos
> Reply to Kat Jo
> Imagine
>
>
> Graham McCormack
> Reply to Kat Jo
> Nobody said they shouldn't be involved. Nice try in confusing the issue.
>
>
> Michael Cain
> Reply to Kat Jo
> Parents are a part of the rearing of children; babysitters, day care
> and school all have a part to play.
>
>
>
>
>
> Murray Brown
> Mr. Higgs was obviously never a student of Parliamentary democracy....
> You don't decide whether or not your are the leader of your party...
> Your party decides. And if they decide that you are not the leader...
> Then you aren't the leader. And if you aren't the leader, then you
> aren't the Premier. Get used to it Mr. Higgs. You do not control the
> keys to the Premier's office... Your party does.
>
>
> Sterling Wright
> Reply to Murray Brown
> I thought the voters decided.
>
>
> David Amos
> Content Deactivated
> Reply to Sterling Wright
> What did Higgy and his new buddy do to your beloved party?
>
>
> David Amos
> Reply to Murray Brown
> Close but no cigar
>
>
>
>
> Benny Swim
> Mark Paul-Elias does not apparently read the news. This is like Higgs'
> family has put all his worldly possessions on the sidewalk and changed
> the locks on the door. In that this is no small family disagreement.
>
> No surprise that Higgs would put himself ahead of his party and his
> province. He is a bitter ender of there ever was one. This is going to
> get much worse in the days ahead.
>
> Donald LeBlanc
> Reply to Benny Swim
> Agree, other than his party is the Higgs Party, not the PC Party and
> his Province is the Irving’s Province, IMO of course.
>
>
> David Amos
> Content Deactivated
> Reply to Benny Swim
> When was the last time you believed a lawyer working with a politician
> who is currently the Justice Minister?
>
>
>
>
>
> Rhys Philbin
> This topic has run its course.
>
> Next!
>
> Stephen Robertson
> Reply to Rhys Philbin
> You can only hope.
>
>
> David Amos
> Reply to Rhys Philbin
> Dream on
>
>
>
>
> Alison Jackson
> "I think we have a path forward here as we work through some of our
> issues," he said.
>
> -
>
> But YOU are the issue McFly!
>
> Rick Grayson
> Reply to Alison Jackson
> I think the premier fails to realize that the govt works as a
> democracy and not a dictatorship. 3 cabinet ministers resign. 1 the
> longest standing member of the legislature. Seems like there is a
> common denominator.
>
>
> Ed Armstrong
> Reply to Alison Jackson
> Just remember the last two resignations and the caucus revolt were
> from people that never supported Highs from day one. He knew it and
> they knew it. The first one was insubordination, he quit seconds
> before he would have been fired.
>
>
> Rachel Woods
> Reply to Ed Armstrong
> “They never supported him since day one”
>
> That is false. He wouldn’t have made them cabinet ministers if they
> didn’t support him.
>
> Matt Steele
> Reply to Ed Armstrong
> Exactly right .
>
>
> Ed Armstrong
> Reply to Rachel Woods
> They both supported someone else for the leadership right up to and
> including the last ballot. They got in cabinet because they were 2 of
> the most experienced MLAs he had. Who had more Cabinet Experience that
> was excluded from cabinet?
>
>
> Doug Cochran
> Reply to Alison Jackson
> "But the party is really united and we intend to stay united" says it
> all. I think Mr Higgs is in tune with the majority and the majority is
> in tune with him.
>
>
> Rachel Woods
> Reply to Doug Cochran
> Is that why his approval ratings have plummeted and are the lowest of
> any Premier in the country?
>
>
> Doug Cochran
> Reply to Alison Jackson
> Won't matter much when he wins next election
>
>
> David Webb
> Reply to Rachel Woods
> You do know that there is only one poll that counts. Polling done for
> any party (paid for) are easily manipulated to get the result they
> desire, which they then advertise as the definitive authority. For
> example a poll done in only liberal held ridings would look quite
> different in conservative held ridings.
>
>
> Michael Cain
> Reply to Doug Cochran
> That tune you hear must be "(Na Na Hey Hey) Kiss Him Goodbye".
>
>
> Donald LeBlanc
> Reply to Doug Cochran
> Are you referring to the majority of right wing Western separatists?
>
>
> David Amos
> Reply to Ed Armstrong
> Why not explain to the folks why I ran in Sussex-Fundy-St. Martins in 2018?
>
>
> David Amos
> Reply to Ed Armstrong
> Howcome you dudes quit sending me butter tarts?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.cbc.ca/news/
>
>
> Another N.B. cabinet minister quits as turmoil over Higgs's leadership
> deepens
> Trevor Holder resigns not long after 4 former party presidents call
> for premier to leave
>
> Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Jun 23, 2023 9:28 AM ADT
>
>
> Bald man with glasses stands in lobby of legislature with reporters
> around him. Longtime Progressive Conservative MLA Trevor Holder has
> stepped down from the New Brunswick cabinet. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)
>
> The turmoil within New Brunswick's Progressive Conservative Party was
> deepening Friday morning as another minister quit Premier Blaine
> Higgs's cabinet and four former top party officials demanded the
> premier resign.
>
> Portland-Simonds MLA Trevor Holder, the longest-serving MLA in the
> legislature, announced in an open letter he was quitting as minister
> of post-secondary education, training and labour.
>
> "Under the leadership of Premier Higgs, caucus has been less about
> consensus and more about him getting his own way," Holder wrote.
>
> Holder said he has tried many times to explain to the premier the
> importance of working more collaboratively but to no avail.
>
> "While I have tried my best to continue to work to maintain the
> integrity of the caucus system, I have finally come to the conclusion
> that this is no longer possible."
>
> A man with grey hair and glasses, wearing a blue suit, white collared
> shirt and blue tie, speaks into several reporters' microphones as a
> number of other people behind him look on. Premier Blaine Higgs has
> been facing backlash from his own MLAs. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)
>
> He also rapped the premier for "his lack of empathy as well as his
> inability to listen to valid concerns from all members of his caucus."
>
> Holder was first elected in the 1999 election and has been a minister
> under three different PC premiers.
>
> He said he plans to stay on as MLA for Portland-Simonds and called on
> party members to "build a thoughtful conservative movement in this
> province that brings people together rather than divide them."
>
> Holder's letter was sent out just one hour after four past presidents
> of the party called on Higgs to resign immediately.
>
> They wrote in their statement that Higgs has achieved a lot during his
> more than four years as premier but also lacks the ability to achieve
> "the delicate balance" required to govern New Brunswick.
>
> "We ask that you avoid a disruptive, public battle that could tear the
> party apart. We ask that you leave graciously," the letter says.
>
> "You have had some important successes as Premier of New Brunswick.
> But the moment now demands that you pass the baton and the PCNB
> reorient itself to face the future and move forward."
>
> PC caucus members voice support for Higgs amid push for leadership
> review
>
> Analysis
> Blaine Higgs, a visitor to the PC Party, may soon be shown the door
>
> The letter is signed by Claude Williams, Lester Young, Brian Harquail
> and Jason Stephen, all former presidents of the New Brunswick party.
>
> The four former presidents accused Higgs of trying to make the
> internal fight a fight about Policy 713, the policy on protections for
> LGBTQ students in provincial schools that the government recently
> revised.
>
> But they said the problems run deeper and include the premier's
> attempts to replace French immersion and weaken district education
> councils and to eliminate elected members of regional health authority
> boards.
>
> "Policy 713 was just the tipping point in a long line of disrespect he
> has shown to our Party, its values and its traditions," they wrote.
>
> Stephen said in an interview that as a party volunteer for more than
> three decades, it was hard for him to sign the letter.
>
> But he believes the party's future is at stake, including in the next
> election in October 2024.
>
> "This is going to turn into a very divisive program, I believe. That's
> why I'm asking him to retire and pass the torch. He can leave a legacy
> of doing some very good things. But that legacy will be different if
> he tries to carry a fractured party into the election."
>
> Medium shot of man in suit speakingJason Stephen, former president of
> the Progressive Conservative Party of New Brunswick, says Higgs should
> resign or else he will divide the party. (Jacques Boissinot/Canadian
> Press)
>
> Southwest Miramichi-Bay du Vin MLA Mike Dawson said he's "behind
> Blaine Higgs 100 per cent" and doesn't understand what Holder's
> resignation will accomplish.
>
> Since he was elected in a byelection last year, Dawson said, he's been
> in the Premier's Office many times, discussing issues with Higgs.
>
> "Instead of letting the pot simmer and boil over, you go into the
> office, you have the discussions and you come out of the office on a
> level playing field, and everyone understands where each other
> stands," he said.
>
> Dawson also defended the premier's hands-on approach to governing,
> which former cabinet minister Dorothy Shephard and others have
> complained about.
>
> "Blaine Higgs is the boss of the PC party. He's the CEO," Dawson said.
> WATCH | Dorothy Shephard, minister of social development, resigns from
> cabinet:
> Dorothy Shephard resigns from cabinet
> Duration 2:00
> In a note addressed to the premier, the social development minister
> said, ‘I can no longer remain in your cabinet.’
>
> Holder's resignation follows that of Shephard, his Saint John
> colleague who quit last week after she, Holder, two other ministers
> and two backbench PC MLA defied Higgs during a vote in the
> legislature.
>
> They joined with the opposition parties to pass a Liberal motion
> calling for more consultations on Policy 713.
>
> Holder said in his letter he now has to do "some significant soul
> searching" after a 24-year career in the legislature.
>
> Critics of Higgs within the party have collected 26 letters from
> presidents of party riding presidents calling for a leadership review.
>
> That's six more than the threshold under the party constitution for
> the PC provincial council to debate it at an upcoming meeting.
>
> It also represents a majority of the 49 riding organizations in the
> province.
>
> Earlier this week Higgs called the push for a review "a strategically
> planned political drama" that has been "a focus from a certain group
> for a few years now" and that was heightened by the Policy 713 debate.
>
> On Thursday two PC caucus members, cabinet minister Réjean Savoie and
> backbench MLA Sherry Wilson, said they support Higgs staying on.
>
> Wilson said PC MLAs who can't support his leadership "need to go and
> just retire, just get out of politics, if that's the way they think."
>
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> ABOUT THE AUTHOR
>
> Jacques Poitras
>
> Provincial Affairs reporter
>
> Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New
> Brunswick since 2000. He grew up in Moncton and covered Parliament in
> Ottawa for the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal. He has reported on
> every New Brunswick election since 1995 and won awards from the Radio
> Television Digital News Association, the National Newspaper Awards and
> Amnesty International. He is also the author of five non-fiction books
> about New Brunswick politics and history.
> CBC's Journalistic Standards and Practices
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> 932 Comments
>
>
>
> David Amos
> I wonder if Trevor Holder conferred with his former assistant who is
> now the Global Director Harper & Associates?
>
>
>
>
> https://www.cbc.ca/news/
>
> PC caucus members voice support for Higgs amid push for leadership review
> Moncton Southwest MLA says rebels should quit politics if they don’t
> like premier’s approach
>
> Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Jun 22, 2023 4:40 PM ADT
>
>
> A man with grey hair and glasses, wearing a blue suit, white collared
> shirt and blue tie, speaks into several reporters' microphones as a
> number of other people behind him look on. Premier Blaine Higgs fields
> questions from reporters, backed by caucus members who supported him
> on Policy 713, including Réjean Savoie (with briefcase). (Jacques
> Poitras/CBC)
>
> Premier Blaine Higgs is getting vocal support from some members of his
> cabinet and caucus as he faces a growing push to remove him as leader
> of New Brunswick's Progressive Conservative party.
>
> Moncton Southwest PC MLA Sherry Wilson says Higgs's record on fiscal
> management and improving health care is a strong one, and members of
> the PC caucus who don't like his leadership should quit.
>
> "For the people who don't support our premier, and don't look at the
> good work and the big picture and what's best for the people we serve
> here in New Brunswick, I think maybe it's time for them to step away,"
> she said.
>
> Critics of Higgs within the party say they have gathered letters from
> 26 presidents of PC riding associations and 50 rank-and-file members
> overall — more than enough to start the process of seeking to remove
> Higgs.
>
> A woman stands at a CBC microphone in an art gallery. Sherry Wilson,
> former minister of Service New Brunswick, said those Tory MLAs should
> leave if they can't endorse Higgs's approach. (CBC)
>
> Those letters were gathered over the last 10 days as a debate over
> Policy 713, on the protection of LGBTQ students in provincial schools,
> erupted at the legislature.
>
> Four cabinet ministers and two backbench PC MLAs voted with a Liberal
> opposition motion calling for consultations, helping to carry the
> motion 26-20.
>
> Analysis
> Blaine Higgs, a visitor to the PC Party, may soon be shown the door
>
> Wilson said those Tory MLAs should leave if they can't endorse Higgs's
> approach.
>
> "To me it's a Conservative value that parents are involved in their
> children's lives. How do we fix it? I think maybe some of them maybe
> need to step down. They need to go and just retire, just get out of
> politics if that's the way they think."
>
> A woman with short grey hair and glasses glances to the left of the
> photo with a serious expression. It's fairly close-up and only the
> collar of a black blouse with aqua squares and some red patterning is
> visible. Former cabinet minister Dorothy Shephard warned Premier Higgs
> in October 2021 that his hands-on management style was alienating
> members of his cabinet and threatened to "destroy" his government.
> (Shane Magee/CBC)
>
> Former minister Dorothy Shephard quit the cabinet last week but
> remains a PC MLA.
>
> She said Higgs's handling of Policy 713 was "the last straw" and the
> latest in a string of examples where he has cut the cabinet and caucus
> out of decision-making and instead micromanaged issues.
>
> But Wilson defended that approach.
>
> "Blaine has his own leadership style. He does. But look at the work
> that's been done under his leadership. … He is the premier and he
> needs to know what's going on in every sector in government," she
> said.
>
> "In any of the departments, if something were to go wrong, the bucks
> stops with him. He needs to know so he can work with us and guide us."
>
> Two men hold hands, raising hands above their heads in victory signal.
> Premier Blaine Higgs celebrating with Miramichi Bay-Neguac MLA-elect
> Réjean Savoie after Savoie won a byelection last year. (Jacques
> Poitras/CBC)
>
> Regional Development Corporation Minister Réjean Savoie, elected last
> year in a byelection in Miramichi Bay-Neguac, also defended Higgs.
>
> "The premier has done his job well," Savoie said. "We've never been in
> such a strong financial position."
>
> He said he worried that the public split would damage the PC party.
>
> "When we have a family disagreement, it should happen behind closed
> doors. … and the Progressive Conservative party is a family."
>
> Savoie was among the MLAs who stood behind Higgs in a media scrum
> minutes after the government lost the vote on the Policy 713 motion
> last Thursday.
>
> PC rebels say majority of riding presidents support ousting Higgs
>
> Minister quits as legislature condemns N.B. premier's LGBTQ policy
> change
>
> He said the impact of the changes to the policy have been exaggerated.
>
> "I hope this will end well and we can try to calm things down," he said.
>
> Former PC cabinet minister Jody Carr, whose brother Jeff Carr is a
> minister in the government and among those who voted for the motion,
> tweeted Thursday that it was sad to see Higgs "lose the confidence of
> his party, caucus and citizens, and be the last one to realize it."
>
> Wilson was one of the few PC MLAs who supported Higgs in his campaign
> for the party leadership in 2016.
>
> She became minister of women's equality and minister of Service New
> Brunswick when the party took power after the 2018 election, but was
> shuffled out of the cabinet when the PCs were re-elected in 2020.
> ABOUT THE AUTHOR
>
> Jacques Poitras
>
> Provincial Affairs reporter
>
> Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New
> Brunswick since 2000. He grew up in Moncton and covered Parliament in
> Ottawa for the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal. He has reported on
> every New Brunswick election since 1995 and won awards from the Radio
> Television Digital News Association, the National Newspaper Awards and
> Amnesty International. He is also the author of five non-fiction books
> about New Brunswick politics and history.
> CBC's Journalistic Standards and Practices
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>
>
> David Amos
> The former minister of Service New Brunswick Sherry Wilson never did
> find my Harley. Perhaps she will now?
>
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Subject: Re: RE PC rebels say majority of riding presidents support ousting Higgs
Blaine Higgs drops 2 rebellious ministers in cabinet shuffle
Daniel Allain and Jeff Carr are out, replaced by newcomers
Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Jun 27, 2023 9:27 AM ADT
Collage of two photos of two men in blue suits MLAs Jeff Carr, left,
and Daniel Allain are no longer on Premier Blaine Higgs' cabinet.
(CBC)
Premier Blaine Higgs has reasserted his authority over his fractured
Progressive Conservative government by dumping two ministers who voted
against him on the contentious issue of New Brunswick's school
gender-identity policy.
In a cabinet shuffle Tuesday, Higgs dropped Local Government Minister
Daniel Allain and Transportation and Infrastructure Minister Jeff
Carr, sending them to the backbenches.
He made it clear that their breaking ranks in a key vote on Policy 713
had cost them their jobs, violating the principle of cabinet
solidarity.
"To go outside of that and to basically feel that it doesn't matter if
you're in cabinet or not — it does matter. And to not address the
situation is really putting the government in a very vulnerable
position," Higgs told reporters after a 9 a.m. swearing-in.
"We have to respect the parliamentary system that we're in, the
sanctity of cabinet, and the fact we'll have very frank and open
discussion in cabinet or in caucus, but in cabinet you have to have
solidarity."
Man in blue suit stepping out of black car Premier Blaine Higgs
arrives at Government House for a cabinet shuffle on Tuesday. (Jacques
Poitras/CBC)
The new additions to cabinet are Carleton-York MLA Richard Ames,
Moncton South MLA Greg Turner and St. Croix MLA Kathy Bockus. All are
first-timers as ministers.
Rejoining cabinet are Moncton Southwest MLA Sherry Wilson, who was in
cabinet from 2018 to 2020, and Oromocto-Lincoln-Fredericton MLA Mary
Wilson, who was shuffled out of cabinet last fall.
Allain and Carr make four ministers no longer in Higgs's cabinet.
WATCH | 'Cabinet support is paramount,' Higgs says:
Blaine Higgs explains why he dropped two cabinet ministers
Duration 1:20
Daniel Allain and Jeff Carr are out of New Brunswick’s cabinet.
Replacing them are new additions including Carleton-York MLA Richard
Ames, Moncton South MLA Greg Turner and St. Croix MLA Kathy Bockus.
The two other ministers, Dorothy Shephard and Trevor Holder, resigned,
both of them citing Higgs's leadership style that they said was at
odds with the values and traditions of the PC party.
All four voted with the opposition parties on June 15 to help pass a
Liberal motion calling for more consultations on Policy 713, which
sets out protections for LGBTQ students in provincial schools.
Higgs claimed that day that the vote was not whipped, but he said
Tuesday "I never made it a free vote, either."
WATCH | Catch up on why the N.B. government changed a policy aimed at
protecting LGBTQ students:
CBC News Explains: How did the New Brunswick government change Policy 713?
Duration 2:19
New Brunswick's Department of Education made several changes to a
policy designed to protect LGBTQ students, affecting sections on
self-identification, extracurricular activities and washrooms.
In the past, the premier has often tolerated minor acts of dissent in
his cabinet and caucus, referring to it as "a diverse group" that has
pushed the envelope the same way he did when he was the outspoken
finance minister in the Alward government.
But on Policy 713 Higgs has signalled he was losing patience.
"To take a position against the government in the legislature, voting
in the legislature, is very significant," he said Tuesday.
Carr and Allain both said Tuesday they understood from Higgs that it
was to be a free vote.
"Obviously the definition of free vote differs from one individual to
another," Allain said.
Both former ministers said they were questioning their futures in politics.
Allain said he was pondering whether "maybe there are other ways" for
him to serve, given the party "is in a crisis. … I'm asking the
question: is it worth the fight?"
He wouldn't say whether he supports the push for a review of Higgs's
leadership.
Medium shot of woman in grey suit smiling at a person off camera
Moncton Southwest MLA Sherry Wilson at Government House on Tuesday,
where she was appointed to cabinet. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)
Carr said he won't run in next year's provincial election if the
premier is still leading the party.
He said he was disappointed but understands why he was removed from
cabinet and did not regret his vote on Policy 713.
Carr insisted that the opposition motion called for exactly what the
PC caucus had been promised by Higgs — a role for the child and youth
advocate in determining if the policy changes were legally sound.
He also wished the new ministers well in Higgs's cabinet.
"If they feel satisfied with that type of leadership and governing,
then that's okay. I don't judge them for that."
Higgs told reporters after the shuffle he'll try to reach out to
unhappy grassroots members of the Progressive Conservative party, some
of whom are organizing to remove him as leader
"I think we have some building to do, there's no question of that," Higgs said.
"I need to play a key role in that, reaching out to the membership,
the executives throughout the province, and be able to sit down and
have some very good discussions."
New ministers proclaim support for premier
"I can guarantee you he doesn't have to ask me" about my loyalty, Mary
Wilson told reporters.
"I have no problem with our premier. I think he does a great job."
Ames proclaimed that "it's a new day, a new team, new cabinet, great
caucus — we're moving forward."
And Turner, who chaired the PC caucus until Tuesday, rejected the
claims by Shephard and Holder that Higgs didn't listen to his MLAs.
WATCH | The CBC's Jacques Poitras explains the process the governing
PC party must follow for dissenters to remove Blaine Higgs as leader:
CBC Explains: How does a leadership review work?
Duration 1:19
The CBC’s Jacques Poitras walks us through each step the PC party must
go through to remove a sitting premier.
"In any caucus meetings I was in, absolutely. I was in all the caucus
meetings. Absolutely," he said.
"Like any team, there has been a leader and there has been people who
support the leader," Turner said. "I have full confidence in his
leadership abilities for sure. There's no question about that."
Ames replaces Carr as minister of transportation and infrastructure,
while Saint John East MLA Glen Savoie gets a promotion by taking over
Allain's local government portfolio.
Allain was the senior francophone minister in government, representing
a language community with few MLAs in the PC caucus.
"He'll continue to be a valued member in our caucus and I'm sure he'll
continue to represent the community," Higgs said.
Woman in blue suit and yellow shirt, walking with umbrella and smiling
at camera Arlene Dunn arrives at Government House for a cabinet
shuffle on Tuesday. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)
Carr, Allain, Shephard, Holder and two other ministers, Arlene Dunn
and Jill Green, signed a statement earlier this month complaining
about a lack of transparency and process in the government's review of
Policy 713.
Dunn, who missed the June 15 vote but said the next day she'd have
voted with the opposition, remains in cabinet and takes over the
post-secondary education, labour and training duties that Holder held.
Asked why he kept her in cabinet, Higgs told reporters that "I know if
someone had been there, they might have done differently … but the
fact is they weren't there and they didn't stand against the
government."
Dunn told reporters after the cabinet shuffle that her issue had been
with Policy 713.
"I didn't think we should have touched that. I think we should have
stayed away from it," she said.
But beyond that, "I do have confidence in the leadership of the premier."
Poilievre tells Trudeau to 'butt out' of New Brunswick's policy on
LGBTQ students
Green also missed the June 15 vote and later said she didn't know how
she would have voted.
She's been promoted to minister of social development and also holds
on to the housing file, with her provincial housing strategy expected
to be released this week.
Opposition Liberal leader Susan Holt did not mention the internal PC
party turmoil in a tweet congratulating the new ministers.
"Our team is ready to work with you to address the issues most
important to New Brunswickers," she wrote.
New minister responsibilities:
Richard Ames — Minister of Transportation and Infrastructure,
former backbencher.
Jill Green — Minister of Social Development and responsible for
Economic and Social Inclusion Corporation; still responsible for New
Brunswick Housing Corporation,but no longer the Minister of Service
New Brunswick.
Arlene Dunn — Minister of Post-Secondary Education, Training and
Labour, remains Minister of Aboriginal Affairs and Minister
responsible for Immigration; no longer responsible for Economic
Development and Small Business and Opportunities N.B.
Greg Turner — Minister responsible for Opportunities N.B. and
Economic Development and Small Business, former backbencher.
Glen Savoie — Minister of Local Government and still responsible
for la Francophonie.
Mary Wilson — Minister of Service New Brunswick and responsible
for Military Affairs; former backbencher shuffled out of cabinet last
fall.
Tammy Scott-Wallace — remains Minister of Tourism, Heritage and
Culture, but no longer Minister responsible for Women's Equality.
Sherry Wilson — Minister responsible for Women's Equality and for
Addictions and Mental Health Services; minister from 2018 to 2020 who
became a backbencher after the 2020 election.
Kathy Bockus — Minister responsible for Seniors, former backbencher.
ABOUT THE AUTHOR
Jacques Poitras
Provincial Affairs reporter
Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New
Brunswick since 2000. He grew up in Moncton and covered Parliament in
Ottawa for the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal. He has reported on
every New Brunswick election since 1995 and won awards from the Radio
Television Digital News Association, the National Newspaper Awards and
Amnesty International. He is also the author of five non-fiction books
about New Brunswick politics and history.
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780 Comments
David Amos
"We serve at the pleasure of the premier."
David Amos
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Food for thought on the BBQ circuit this summer.
What if a new right wing political party is created in NB and Higgy
dissolves the PC Party like his buddy Austin did with the PANB
recently and MacKay did 20 years ago?
David Amos
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Reply to David Amos
Methinks quite a circus would begin if Higgy joined the new party as
its interim leader N'esy Pas?
David Amos
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Methinks Higgy just sealed the deal to go to war with Mr Allian and
his pals Now they will battle for the Leadership N'esy Pas?
David Amos
I maintain Danny Boy will win the battle for leadership
Ed Armstrong
Reply to David Amos
If there is a leadership convention than that is a distinct
possibility but there has to be a vacancy at the top first and with 15
months to go before an election, there is no way to dispose of the
current leader, hold a leadership race and convention and have the new
leader prepared to fight an election and win. Danny Boy is not stupid
enough to cut off his nose to spite his face. He's a much smarter man
than I am (I think), if I can read the timeline, I'm sure he can as
well. He would be in much better shape to wait till after the Sept
2024 election and step into a leadership race at that point if a
vacancy at the top occurs.
David Amos
Reply to Ed Armstrong
Are you dudes gonna send me some more butter tarts if I am right?
David Amos
Reply to Ed Armstrong
BTW The caucus can get rid of Higgy and appoint an interim leader
Ed Armstrong
Reply to David Amos
No, only the party can dump the leader. That is the big difference
between Britian's Westminster System and Canada's. Britian's Caucus
does elect the leader and can dump them at any time. In Canada all
Party Members have the right to vote for their leader and under the
rules can bit them out as well. I definitely like our rules better.
David Amos
Reply to Ed Armstrong
There more than one way to skin a cat
Dee MacDonald
The silent majority has the final say.
David Amos
Reply to Dee MacDonald
I concur
Marcel Belanger
Reply to Dee MacDonald
Not yet...not yet.
Robert Borden
Reply to Dee MacDonald
Over half the party ridings want a leadership review. Seems the
majority isn't silent, and so far haven't the say.
Craig McMaster
Reply to Dee MacDonald
When Higgs' own Party is turning on him, I don't think he has the
majority anymore...
val harris
Higgs has added to his Puppet show .. NB is in for a real treat...
David Amos
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Reply to val harris
I will trade you some popcorn for peanuts
Sterling Wright
Reply to val harris
Well we are in for something. But I don't think treat is quite the right word.
David Amos
Reply to Sterling Wright
Not for you perhaps but lots of us are getting quite a chuckle
Dacre Gushue
I still think Arlene Dunn should be out as well. She did sign the
letter and "missed" the vote.
David Amos
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Reply to Dacre Gushue
Why not ask the Fat Fred City Finest why her position is secure?
Rachel Woods
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Reply to Dacre Gushue
Sterling Wright
Reply to Rachel Woods
That has always been the case for the old parties
val harris
Where is Lou Bell?
Ben Haroldson
Reply to val harris
He's in Freddy getting sworn in.
David Amos
Reply to val harris
Hiding under a rock
Mac Isaac
What I see as most disappointing...let's face it: Higgs is a huge
disappointment, but what is most disappointing is that the provincial
cabinet is now completely filled with a bunch of Higgs sycophants who
will toe the party line but not really offer new thoughts or hopes for
the people of New Brunswick.
David Amos
Reply to Mac Isaac
Welcome back to the circus
Andrew Martin
Reply to Mac Isaac
You may believe Higgs is a disappointment, but that is your opinion,
not fact. If he was such a disappointment, he wouldn't have been
re-elected with a majority. Opinions dont equate to fact.
David Amos
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Reply to Andrew Martin
Methinks Higgy won because Vickers lost N'esy Pas?
Jake Quinlan
Reply to Andrew Martin
Rode the Covid wave (or lack of Covid in NB in 2020).
Benny Swim
Reply to Mac Isaac
That was then and this is now. Even Poitras now seems to understand
who Higgs is. Half the PCs in the province (over half of the local
riding presidents have asked him to resign) will stay home if an
election is called. That is an opinion and not fact.
They will be bolstered by the fact that Susan Holt and the Liberals
have not given any reason for them or us to think she/they will govern
much differently then the PCs. In that they will keep the fee cuts for
billionaires on crown land, and tax free living for the Irving
enterprises.
NBers should make sure that neither the Liberals or the Conservatives
get a majority the next time we vote. Look what happens when we don't
do that. The premier of the day begins to think that the province
belongs to him/her and their advisors.
Benny Swim
Reply to Benny Swim
The above comment was meant for Andrew Martin, not Mac Isaac.
Donald LeBlanc
Reply to Andrew Martin
How is your opinion fact?
Roland Stewart
Reply to Mac Isaac
None of them could care less about Higgs or his policies or the people
of the province. They are there for the money and perks that come with
the job.
Sterling Wright
Reply to Mac Isaac
You nailed it
Donald LeBlanc
Reply to Benny Swim
You’re right, the Liberals under Holt need to prove that they are not
the Party of the past. They have to show NBers that the billionaires
will finally lose power, that regular folks will not be footing the
bills while watching our services collapse. Watching the Legislature
(as little of it there is) there seems to be hope in some of these new
Liberal MLAs and Leader. Now they have to start proving it’s for real,
not something that disappears the minute they take power. NBs are fed
up with that scenario.
Donald LeBlanc
Reply to Benny Swim
And you’re absolutely right on the need for a Minority Government.
Ross Wetmore said in the Legislature that for all his years (13) in
Government, the 2018 Minority Government was the best he had worked
in. He seemed very emotional about what has become of Government in
NB.
Robert Borden
Reply to Andrew Martin
Over half the party ridings are calling for a leadership review,
that's a fact, and also shows significant disappointment within the
party. At least a third of his Cabinet, at least until this move, was
also in open rebellion against him. That certainly shows a significant
level of disappointment within his own elected members.
Your provided "fact" is a vote that is only for his riding, not for
him as leader. In Alberta Kenney's UPC got elected with a strong
majority yet he was ousted by his party. What you've outlined as
"fact" is basically the scenario that happened in Alberta.
Andrew Martin
Reply to Robert Borden
I guess we'll see what happen with the next election. The ridings may
be calling for a review, but are the actual voters calling for it? We
dont really know 100%, we can estimate, poll etc, but we dont really
know whats on every voters mind until election time.
Andrew Martin
Reply to Donald LeBlanc
Winning a democratically instituted voting system where you win the
majority of votes should be enough evidence of the majority agreeing.
Therefore its not an opinion, but a fact.
Ross Mills
Reply to Andrew Martin
Higgs's job is to represent the views of the people who voted for him.
If he caves, it will be a huge disappointment for those who voted for
him. If necessary, he may need to call an election to prove this.
Robert Borden
Reply to Andrew Martin
Again, voters vote for their MLA, the party votes for the leader. Even
if voters want the conservatives to remain in power, it doesn't mean
they want Higgs as their premier.
Same thing happened in Alberta with Kenney, and quite possibly will
happen with Smith, and I'd even go so far as including the federal
Liberals with Trudeau.
Higgs doesn't seem to have the support of his party and it could be
completely irrelevant what the voters want. If the party wants him
out, he'll be gone.
Andrew Martin
Reply to Robert Borden
And if the voters wanted him running it and the party votes him out,
then they may get voted out
Donald LeBlanc
Reply to Andrew Martin
It’s also a fact that the unvaccinated Pandemic Election Majority was
won with 26% of eligible voters. This was after success in a Minority
Government scenario with Higgs near the top in the approval rating
polls. The opinion is that after receiving his Majority it seems that
was the beginning of his missteps and downward trend, IMO.
claude bourgeois
Can't call them Progressive Conservatives anymore. Just Conservatives.
Jake Quinlan
Reply to claude bourgeois
Chip off the federal block. They hired that consultant from western
canada - here we are.
Donald LeBlanc
Reply to claude bourgeois
Just what Higgs wants. Guess PP is in the area, two peas in a pod.
Another use for the initials PP.
David Amos
Reply to claude bourgeois
C'est Vrai
https://www.cbc.ca/news/
Higgs accused of launching 'vicious' attack on PC critic during Saturday meeting
Former president tells premier to ‘get over it’ ahead of Tuesday cabinet shuffle
Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Jun 26, 2023 11:04 AM ADT
A man with grey hair and glasses, wearing a dark suit, white shirt and
tie, speaks to reporters. New Brunswick Premier Blaine Higgs is facing
a revolt within his Progressive Conservative caucus and in the party.
(CBC)
New Brunswick Premier Blaine Higgs has been accused of launching "a
vicious verbal attack" against a member of the provincial Progressive
Conservative party's governing body who questioned his leadership.
Regional vice-president John Williston said the premier was "over the
top" and "aggressive" when he shouted at the member of the PC
provincial council on the weekend.
"He was clearly in a complete rage," Williston told CBC's Information
Morning Fredericton.
"If this is how the premier speaks to his cabinet, if this is how the
premier communicates with his caucus, it's clearly a toxic work
environment that none of us would be willing to accept in our own
places of business."
Higgs is facing a revolt within his PC caucus and in the party over
his leadership style, which critics say is a top-down system that
ignores expertise and allows little input from ministers and MLAs.
Medium shot of man smiling at camera John Williston, a regional
vice-president of the Progressive Conservative Party, says the premier
shouted at a member of the PC provincial council on the weekend.
(Submitted by John Williston)
Two ministers, Dorothy Shephard and Trevor Holder, have resigned from
his cabinet in the last two weeks over their concerns about his
approach.
Higgs's spokesperson Nicolle Carlin told CBC News on Monday morning
that the premier will shuffle his cabinet on Tuesday.
Two other ministers, Daniel Allain and Jeff Carr, joined Shephard and
Holder in voting against the government on June 15.
WATCH | Daniel Allain on current state of the PC party:
PC arguments about Higgs are 'arduous, tumultuous and in the public,'
minister says
Duration 1:10
Daniel Allain comments on an internal battle within New Brunswick's
governing Progressive Conservative party. Premier Blaine Higgs has
come under fire inside caucus and across the party.
Allain said Monday afternoon he hadn't been told yet if he'd still be
a minister on Tuesday.
"There's a process," he said at a news conference in Grand Bouctouche.
"We serve at the pleasure of the premier."
Allain and the three other ministers helped to pass an opposition
Liberal motion calling for further consultations on the government's
Policy 713, which sets out protections for LGBTQ+ students in schools.
WATCH | Jacques Poitras breaks down what rebelling PCs need to do to
remove a sitting premier:
CBC Explains: How does a leadership review work?
Duration 1:19
The CBC’s Jacques Poitras walks us through each step the PC party must
go through to remove a sitting premier.
All four helped to pass an opposition Liberal motion calling for
further consultations on the government's Policy 713, which sets out
protections for LGBTQ students in schools.
That vote crystallized a growing discontent within the party that
Shephard said goes far beyond just Policy 713.
School year wraps up with bitterness and uncertainty among teachers
Premier Higgs says he won't resign after calls for his removal
Former party president Claude Williams said last week that there are
letters from presidents of 26 PC riding associations asking for a
leadership review — more than the 20 required to force the provincial
council to vote on whether to hold a vote.
Higgs looks at 'path forward'
Williston said the letters weren't submitted at Saturday's meeting
because the number continues to grow, with two more presidents signing
on after the meeting because of the premier's behaviour.
Higgs said on Saturday that there was "a good frank open discussion
here and I think we have a path forward."
Asked about Williams telling reporters he was disappointed in comments
by the premier in the meeting, Higgs said his remarks were "about team
building, it was about us working together and having good discussions
internally."
But Williston said Higgs's comments were "almost borderline shocking."
WATCH | In May, Higgs called for a controversial review of Policy 713:
Premier Blaine Higgs defends his government's review of Policy 713
Duration 2:03
Higgs says schools should have to inform parents if a child under 16
wants to change their names or pronouns, and young children should not
be exposed to drag queen storytimes.
He also said the premier's critics tried to introduce a motion to
schedule a special meeting of the council before the fall to deal with
the leadership review issue but were ruled out of order based on
procedure.
"Some people in the party are trying to to rag the puck," he said.
PC party president Erika Hachey, who ran Saturday's meeting, said
Monday morning she had no comment on Williston's description of the
discussion.
Williston said Higgs claimed in the meeting he was blameless for the
party's poor election showings in francophone New Brunswick, pointing
the finger instead at what he called negative coverage in the
French-language newspaper L'Acadie Nouvelle.
LISTEN | John Williston and Brian Harquail tell Information Morning
host Jeanne Armstrong it's time for Blaine Higgs to resign:
Information Morning - Fredericton15:12
PC party rebellion
Are the days numbered for Blaine Higgs as leader of New Brunswick's
PC party? Jeanne Armstrong spoke to two party members who say it's
time for the Premier to take a final bow. John Williston, a regional
vice-president with the party, and Brian Harquail, former PC party
president and one of the people who signed the letter calling for
Higgs to resign.
Former PC party president Brian Harquail, who did not attend the
meeting, told Information Morning that if Higgs can't unite his caucus
and his party, he doesn't deserve to be governing New Brunswick.
"I was elected twice as president and we have a reputation of eating
our young, and blaming somebody else for our own mistakes," he said.
"Well, it's time we took control and started to lead the party in the
right direction."
'Things are going to escalate'
Harquail was one of four former presidents who signed a letter last
week calling on Higgs to resign to avoid a divisive, drawn-out
leadership review fight.
He scoffed at Higgs blaming negative media coverage for his lack of
popularity in francophone New Brunswick.
Another N.B. cabinet minister quits as turmoil over Higgs's
leadership deepens
5 questions answered about the LGBTQ school policy debate
"To attack the newspaper for doing their job is childish and shows a
very, very strong lack of leadership," he said.
"Get over it, Blaine, because that's life and that's the way it is.
And you wanted the job, so let's get on with it."
Mediu shot of man in suit Former Progressive Conservative party
president Claude Williams previously said there are letters from
presidents of 26 PC riding associations asking for a leadership
review. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)
Williston said far from calming down, he believes that "things are
going to escalate" in the party's internal battle.
He said the premier will eventually have to realize that he can no
longer govern and that an election would be a risk now because many PC
members in local riding associations won't work for him as leader.
ABOUT THE AUTHOR
Jacques Poitras
Provincial Affairs reporter
Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New
Brunswick since 2000. He grew up in Moncton and covered Parliament in
Ottawa for the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal. He has reported on
every New Brunswick election since 1995 and won awards from the Radio
Television Digital News Association, the National Newspaper Awards and
Amnesty International. He is also the author of five non-fiction books
about New Brunswick politics and history.
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1109 Comments
David Amos
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Methinks Higgy's beloved caucus may turn on him in short order now
that only 17 of them got a new car and a big raise N'esy Pas?
David Amos
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Somebody has attacked my blog about this nonsense 11 times since
yesterday afternoon and I have a pretty good idea who is doing it
David Amos
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Methinks Higgy just sealed the deal to go to war with Mr Allian and
his pals Now they will battle for the Leadership N'esy Pas?
David Amos
"We serve at the pleasure of the premier."
I continue to maintain that Daniel Allain will be the next Leader/Premier
Kyle Woodman
Reply to David Amos
You might be on to something. He managed the optics of municipal
reform fairly well given how unpopular it was.
Don Corey
Reply to David Amos
I hope you’re right on the next leader. If indeed it’s Allain, he’ll
also win the next election and the libs will no longer have Higgs to
continually complain about.
David Amos
Reply to Kyle Woodman
More importantly he is French Minister in Moncton and a Bernie Lord buddy
Ben Haroldson
Reply to Kyle Woodman
Ya think lol?
Kyle Woodman
Reply to Ben Haroldson
It could have been a complete disaster given how angry people were.
Given the context I think he handled it with some competency. I don't
really know much about Allain. Seems to know when to keep his head
down.
David Amos
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Reply to Kyle Woodman
Hanwell man sues NB Liquor over agency store contract
Moncton's Power Plus Technology won the agency store contract
CBC News · Posted: Apr 23, 2013 9:35 AM ADT
David Amos
Reply to David Amos
Alward appoints faithful to key positions
CBC News · Posted: Oct 14, 2010 6:49 AM ADT
New Brunswick Premier David Alward appointed Tory faithful to key
deputy minister posts Thursday, reversing a vow to change the way in
which appointments are made by the provincial government.
The appointments include Daniel Allain to the key position of
president and chief executive officer of NB Liquor. Dana Clendenning,
the Liberal-appointed president of the Crown corporation, left his
position last week with a taxpayer-funded severance package.
Previous premiers Shawn Graham and Bernard Lord both selected party
loyalists for the job, which pays between $150,000 and $175,000 per
year.
David Amos
"But Mark Paul-Elias, the president of the PC's Fredericton-Grand Lake
Riding Association, said the majority of the party stands behind the
premier"
Mack Leigh
Reply to David Amos
And that speaks volumes....
Graham McCormack
Reply to David Amos
And Trump say she was the best president ever. People say a lot of
things, doesn't mean they are true.
Andrew Hebda
Reply to David Amos
He has unique insight (outside of the Fredericton-Grand Lake riding)?
Gregory Pittaway
Reply to David Amos
I think that's going to be proven fantacy very shortly. Lol.
David Amos
Reply to Gregory Pittaway
Trust that I don't trust anything a lawyer says particularly one who
is supporting our latest Justice Minister
Rhys Philbin
Lol. Caucus revolt.
Two ministers stand down yet hold on to the golden paycheque
David Amos
Reply to Rhys Philbin
Oh My MY Are you having as much fun as I?
Daniel Franklin
Higgs is bad for NB and is giving us a bad name. He's worse for NB
than Jason Kenney was for Alberta.
Andrew Martin
Reply to Daniel Franklin
Best leader NB has had in decades..... maybe are envious that higgs is
taking a stand against the nonsense.
Inger Nielsen
Reply to Andrew Martin
sorry you feel that way I feel that childrens lives matter childrens
voices matter and childrens rights matter
David Amos
Reply to Daniel Franklin
Relax and enjoy the circus
Ken Hastings
Reply to Daniel Franklin
But, Danielle Smith is worse than Higgs and Kenney put together!
Fred Brewer
What has Higgs done for renewables in NB?
2016 was the first year when there were more people employed in
renewable energy worldwide than there were in oil and gas worldwide.
Since then the job growth in renewables has continued to grow. But
Higgs head was firmly stuck in the oilsands and NB has lost out on
huge, well-paid job growth opportunities in renewables. Time for him
to go.
Ronald Miller
Reply to Fred Brewer
Our total renewable capacity in 2018 stood at 30.6%, in 2023 it now
stands at 40.4%. Conversely, our Oil and Diesel was at 35.2%, it is
now 15.5%. Looks like that debt clock needs another adjustment.
Andrew Martin
Reply to Fred Brewer
The cost of renewables is not as attractive to NB due to our already
low rates. The shift in job demographics you mention is not born of
something other than government making O n G job extinct due to
hindering policies.
David Amos
Reply to Ronald Miller
Say Hey to Little Lou for me will ya?
Shawn Tabor
This just keeps on getting better and better. The drama of it all.
Shows you the ( cracks ). What should these folks really be doing.
David Amos
Reply to Shawn Tabor
Welcome back to the circus
Frank Brace
Perhaps Higgs could be sent to a psychologist for counselling
David Amos
Reply to Frank Brace
Why not just put the old goat out to pasture? The Conservatives may
need him again in the future
Michael Hutton
Reply to Frank Brace
Only if his parents approve
Andrew Hebda
Reply to Frank Brace
In all honesty.. we all have our days... when we have to vent...
however, in this case, based on what we have seen in the news during
the last several weeks seems to be something more "persistent"
Frank Brace
Reply to Michael Hutton
Touche, make him tell them
Walter Alison
Reply to Frank Brace
Don't you really mean social conditioning and brainwashing?
Benny Swim
Reply to Frank Brace
But not one in a school as there are none.
Michael Cain
Reply to Frank Brace
anger mangement problem; makes decisions in the heat of the moment.
Frank Brace
Reply to Walter Alison
That's already occurred and why he needs help
Mike Carruthers
Any leader will have a nasty streak when subordinates decide to not
follow their instructions. Just ask Jody Wilson-Raybould.
David Amos
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Reply to Mike Carruthers
While you are at it why not ask Jody about my lawsuit which I filed
and began arguing before she was elected?
Michael Murphy
Reply to Mike Carruthers
So Trudeau was right, or Higgs is wrong?
Walter Alison
Reply to Michael Murphy
Trudeau is never right. Hence, Higgs is not wrong.
Andrew Hebda
Reply to Mike Carruthers
In Minister Wilson Raybould's case she was offered a choice... In this
case... no choice.. just public berating.
Michael Cain
Reply to Mike Carruthers
She failed at the job miserably.
Robt Greene
'Vicious verbal attack.'
'He was clearly in a complete rage'
We've had hints of this from Ottawa. One incident, about six yrs ago,
that made it to a couple of papers, was the time when he jumped up on
a desk and started screaming a profanity laden 10 min outburst at an
MP who dared to voice what his constituents wanted.
No story on this site about it though. And you can be damned sure they
knew all about it.
David Amos
Reply to Robt Greene
Reporters witnessed our little hoedown in public in October and said
nothing either
Dacre Gushue
Reply to Robt Greene
You need to add more context here. Not sure who or what you're talking about.
David Amos
Reply to Dacre Gushue
I finally got a Health Care Card Correct?
Benny Swim
So because Trudeau does it, it is fine for Higgs? Whataboutism is a
weak argument. Like kids saying "well Mary and Mark did it so why am I
being given a hard time"". BTW, Trudeau is a lousy leader too.
David Amos
Reply to Benny Swim
They both replaced their Health Ministers Correct?
Robt Greene
Reply to Benny Swim
Not at all what I was saying.
One is front page news on here.
The other incidents are totally ignored by this site.
David Amos
Reply to David Amos
PC official wants Blaine Higgs's leadership put to review
PC party official hopes for discussion of N.B. premier's leadership at
annual general meeting
Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Oct 18, 2022 6:15 PM AT
Blaine Higgs recently told Brunswick News that he’ll announce during
his State of the Province speech in the new year whether he plans to
retire ahead of the next election in 2024 or seek another mandate.
(Jacques Poitras/CBC)
Bruce Dagsvik
At this rate NB will see a COR comeback with Higgs as leader taking
them into the 2024 election.
Dacre Gushue
Reply to Bruce Dagsvik
That's not all bad.
David Amos
Reply to Bruce Dagsvik
Methinks many would agree that you are more right than wrong N'esy Pas?
Toby Tolly
jacques ... the 1 hit wonder
Emmanuel Rochon
Reply to Toby Tolly
Oh how some like to blame the messenger!
David Amos
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Reply to Emmanuel Rochon
C'est Vrai
Zoe Richmond
Premier Higgs has won two elections, of course the media is all over
him like the plague.
Elliott Stranger
Reply to Zoe Richmond
It’s not the media he has to worry about. His own party wants him gone.
Andrew Hebda
Reply to Zoe Richmond
It is not the media that is confronting him... It is (what were
formerly his own people
Emmanuel Rochon
Reply to Zoe Richmond
Well that's quite the leap!
Roosevelt Smith
Reply to Emmanuel Rochon
seems blaming the media is pretty on par for these folks:
pointing the finger instead at what he called negative coverage in the
French-language newspaper L'Acadie Nouvelle.
Sam Crawford
Reply to Zoe Richmond
Hoodwinking an electorate in no means equates to good governance.
Craig McMaster
Reply to Zoe Richmond
Premier Higgs is losing the support of his own Party and the press is
doing their job by telling us about it...
David Amos
Reply to Sam Crawford
Oh So True
Rick Rheubottom
When cornered the typical politician will lash out in a defensive
tactic disguised as aggression. If ignored the hackles come down and
typically they rest.
Andrew Hebda
Reply to Rick Rheubottom
I prefer politicians who can control their temper (and their hackles)
David Amos
Reply to Andrew Hebda
Clive Gibbons
Judging by the contempt he has for his team, imagine how he feels
about what regular New Brunswickers think.
David Amos
Reply to Clive Gibbons
Imagine?
James Smythe
And here I thought conservatives detested top-down governance and
centralized power
13 older comments.
David Novak
Reply to Craig McMaster
This article is about internal party frictions. How is Trudeau acting
like a Conservative? There is little comparable internal friction
within the Liberal Party. Alberta's Premier is watching behind her
back and Higgs seems to be now too, both conservatives. And of course
we can imagine that there might still be a few real conservatives out
there who might fundamentally disagree with the direction the federal
party is headed.
David Amos
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Reply to James Smythe
Imagine?
On 6/25/23, David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
> BTW Higgy's old buddy Dominic Cardy is about to speak about 713 on
> CBC Radio's Cross Country Checkup
>
> https://www.cbc.ca/radio/
>
> Is Canada becoming more or less accepting of LGBTQ rights?
>
> What conversations are you having? Call us: 1-888-416-8333
> CBC Radio · Posted: Jun 23, 2023 1:35 PM ADT
>
> Cross Country Checkup: Is Canada becoming more or less accepting of
> LGBTQ rights?
> 54 minutes ago
> Live
> It's Pride weekend in Toronto, but it comes at a time where advocates
> say trans people are being targeted and harmful rhetoric is on the
> rise. What conversations are you having?
>
> Toronto is hosting Pride celebrations this weekend, but it comes at a
> time where advocates say trans people are being targeted and harmful
> rhetoric is on the rise.
>
> In New Brunswick, the provincial government's decision to change an
> education policy on gender identity has caused significant controversy
> and even turmoil within the government. The changes make it mandatory
> for teachers to get parental consent before using a student's chosen
> name and pronouns.
>
> School psychologists as well as child welfare, education and human
> rights experts have all come out against these changes.
>
> Our question this week: Is Canada becoming more or less accepting of
> LGBTQ rights? What conversations are you having?
>
> Our Ask Me Anything segment this week features former Conservative
> leader Erin O'Toole. O'Toole resigned his seat as an MP at the end of
> the House of Commons' spring session this past Wednesday. What
> questions do you have?
>
> Join host Ian Hanomansing on CBC Radio One and CBC Listen and CBC News
> Network. Call Checkup at 1-888-416-8333, send an email text
> (226-758-8924) or find us on Facebook.
>
> https://davidraymondamos3.
>
> Wednesday, 21 June 2023
>
> PC rebels say majority of riding presidents support ousting Higgs
>
>
> https://www.cbc.ca/news/
>
> Premier Higgs says he won't resign after calls for his removal
> Higgs intends to stay on even after the resignations of 2 cabinet ministers
>
> CBC News · Posted: Jun 24, 2023 5:30 PM ADT
>
>
> Premier Blaine Higgs Premier Blaine Higgs said a resignation isn't in
> the cards. (Lars Schwarz/CBC)
>
> Premier Blaine Higgs said he's not going anywhere after a Progressive
> Conservative party meeting in Fredericton on Saturday.
>
> When asked what's next for him and the party, Higgs batted down any
> suggestion of stepping aside.
>
> "It won't be a resignation," Higgs said.
>
> The premier has been under pressure to step aside after changes to
> Policy 713 — a policy designed to protect LGBTQ students in schools —
> prompted the resignations of two cabinet ministers and letters from
> more than 20 riding presidents calling on Higgs to resign.
>
> Higgs said there was no formal discussion at the meeting about a
> possible leadership review, but did say he wants to work with the
> party and his caucus to resolve any issues behind closed doors.
>
> "I think we have a path forward here as we work through some of our
> issues," he said.
>
> Another N.B. cabinet minister quits as turmoil over Higgs's
> leadership deepens
>
> 5 questions answered about the LGBTQ school policy debate
>
> Claude Williams, a former president of the party who attended the
> meeting, said the reason there was no formal discussion about a
> leadership review is because the rules of the meeting made it
> impossible.
>
> He also said he was disappointed in the premier's closing remarks to
> the meeting, but didn't elaborate further.
> Support cloudy
>
> The amount of support the premier has in caucus, and in the party, is
> up for debate.
>
> On Wednesday, CBC News reported at least 22 riding presidents have
> written letters calling for a leadership review vote.
>
> But Mark Paul-Elias, the president of the PC's Fredericton-Grand Lake
> Riding Association, said the majority of the party stands behind the
> premier.
>
> While he admitted not everyone was supportive of Higgs — mentioning at
> least one person who walked out of the meeting — Paul-Elias maintained
> the premier has the party's support.
>
> "You don't have a family that doesn't have the odd person who doesn't
> agree with what's going on. But the party is really united and we
> intend to stay united," he said.
>
> With files from Lars Schwarz
> CBC's Journalistic Standards and Practices
>
>
>
> 198 Comments
>
>
>
> David Amos
> "The turmoil within New Brunswick's Progressive Conservative Party
> was deepening Friday morning as another minister quit Premier Blaine
> Higgs's cabinet and four former top party officials demanded the
> premier resign.
>
> Portland-Simonds MLA Trevor Holder, the longest-serving MLA in the
> legislature, announced in an open letter he was quitting as minister
> of post-secondary education, training and labour.
>
> "Under the leadership of Premier Higgs, caucus has been less about
> consensus and more about him getting his own way," Holder wrote.
>
> Holder's letter was sent out just one hour after four past presidents
> of the party called on Higgs to resign immediately.
>
> "We ask that you avoid a disruptive, public battle that could tear the
> party apart. We ask that you leave graciously," the letter says.
>
> The letter is signed by Claude Williams, Lester Young, Brian Harquail
> and Jason Stephen, all former presidents of the New Brunswick party."
>
>
>
>
> David Amos
> Imagine if Higgy as Leader decides to dissolve the PC Party like his
> buddy Austin did to the PANB recently and MacKay did to the federal PC
> Party in 20 years ago?
>
>
>
>
> David Amos
> "Higgs's past involvement with the anti-bilingualism Confederation of
> Regions party — alarming to many francophones — underscored that he
> was truly different."
>
>
> David Amos
> Reply to David Amos
> "Only three sitting PC MLAs endorsed him, an indicator of how his more
> conventional colleagues saw his maverickness.
>
> So he signed up countless new party members to go around them.
>
> He told those recruits that "it doesn't matter what the party's called
> — use the PC Party as a conduit to change politics in New Brunswick."
>
> David Amos
> Reply to David Amos
> "Most MLAs who worked with Higgs in the Alward cabinet endorsed other
> leadership candidates in 2016 and chafed at his open disdain for
> old-fashioned party ways.
>
> "When it's done right … politics is what makes things happen," veteran
> Portland-Simonds member Trevor Holder said at the time.
>
> "Sometimes that takes political friendships and alliances to get that
> done."
>
> David Amos
> Reply to David Amos
> "The main accusation by his caucus critics is that he cuts them out of
> his decision-making process.
>
> His 2020 push for health reforms — including the proposed closure of
> small hospital emergency departments — cost him his only francophone
> MLA at the time, Robert Gauvin.
>
> Gauvin's father was the late Jean Gauvin, a longtime member of Richard
> Hatfield's cabinet who helped keep the embers of PC support flickering
> in Shippagan during the party's 12-year exile from power.
>
> Jean Gauvin also stood by Hatfield when party rebels tried to remove
> him from the leadership in 1985 — so his son's move to the Liberals is
> another symbol of Higgs's break with party history. "
>
> David Amos
> Content Deactivated
> Reply to David Amos
> "Another francophone who backed Hatfield during that battle,
> Jean-Pierre Ouellet from Madawaska-Les Lacs-Edmundston, is now part of
> the push to dump Higgs, arguing the premier is advancing ideas
> inimical to the PC Party.
>
> "As far as I'm concerned, he's trying to implement a platform that was
> the CoR platform when he was campaigning for the CoR party in the
> 1980s," Ouellete said."
>
> Jos Allaire
> Reply to David Amos
> He was and still is different!
>
>
> David Amos
> Reply to Jos Allaire
> Methinks many folks in Madawaska-Les Lacs-Edmundston agree with you N'esy
> Pas?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> David Amos
> "Former PC cabinet minister Jody Carr, whose brother Jeff Carr is a
> minister in the government and among those who voted for the motion,
> tweeted Thursday that it was sad to see Higgs "lose the confidence of
> his party, caucus and citizens, and be the last one to realize it."
>
>
>
>
> David Amos
> On June 21st PC Party president Erika Hachey said in an email she had
> not received any letters yet from riding presidents calling for a
> review.
>
>
>
>
>
> David Amos
> "But Mark Paul-Elias, the president of the PC's Fredericton-Grand Lake
> Riding Association, said the majority of the party stands behind the
> premier"
>
>
> Gregory Pittaway
> Reply to David Amos
> Jeez, never seen this much turmoil in a party that has such confidence
> in its leader.
>
>
> David Amos
> Content Deactivated
> Reply to Gregory Pittaway
> Check out the circus in the Ottawa or England or Scotland or Russia or
> the USA etc Methinks New Brunswick is small potatoes N'esy Pas?
>
>
> Christine White
> Reply to David Amos
> Who is Mark speaking for?
>
> Not the voting public.
>
> David Amos
> Reply to Christine White
> Higgy
>
>
>
>
> Wilbur Ross
> Call the Irving complaint line and tell them to fire this guy.
>
>
> Buford Wilson
> Reply to Wilbur Ross
> (Hilarious!)
>
>
> David Amos
> Reply to Wilbur Ross
> Good luck with that
>
>
>
>
>
> Doug kirby
> His past employment has taught him to never back down
>
>
> David Amos
> Reply to Doug kirby
> No doubt
>
>
> Gregory Pittaway
> Reply to Doug kirby
> His past employment certainly didn't teach him to consult with experts
> so this is what we get. An uneducated leader who does not care to
> consult with those who know more than him. Just mine a vein of half
> truths for cheap political points, children be damned.
>
>
> Michael Cain
> Reply to Doug kirby
> His past employment taught him that a bully gets things done.
>
>
> G. Timothy Walton
> Reply to Doug kirby
> Elect political outsiders, get people with politics outside their skillset.
>
>
> David Amos
> Reply to G. Timothy Walton
> I resemble that remark
>
>
>
>
>
> Keith McLellan
> The most divisive premier ever! Higgs has to go!
>
>
> David Amos
> Reply to Keith McLellan
> Amen
>
>
>
>
> Lorelei Stott
> great news, hold the hill Mr. Higgs, appreciate your stance and common
> sense middle ground
>
>
> David Amos
> Content Deactivated
> Reply to Lorelei Stott
> No doubt Humpty Dumpty had his fans too
>
>
> Gregory Pittaway
> Reply to Lorelei Stott
> That you call this "middle ground" is hilarious and telling. Lol.
>
>
> David Amos
> Reply to Gregory Pittaway
> I continue to maintain that Daniel J. Allain will be the next PC
> Leader/Premier in short order
>
>
>
>
>
> Kat Jo
> Imagine, believing parents should be involved in the rearing of their
> children.
>
>
> Rachel Woods
> Reply to Kat Jo
> A child’s gender identity has no impact on the “rearing” aspect of a
> parent. Their support, love, and attention should not be impacted by
> their gender identity.
>
> That’s why in this one singular niche situation the parent should be
> left out, if the child specifically requests it.
>
> Parents are still informed and involved in literally everything else.
>
> David Amos
> Reply to Kat Jo
> Imagine
>
>
> Graham McCormack
> Reply to Kat Jo
> Nobody said they shouldn't be involved. Nice try in confusing the issue.
>
>
> Michael Cain
> Reply to Kat Jo
> Parents are a part of the rearing of children; babysitters, day care
> and school all have a part to play.
>
>
>
>
>
> Murray Brown
> Mr. Higgs was obviously never a student of Parliamentary democracy....
> You don't decide whether or not your are the leader of your party...
> Your party decides. And if they decide that you are not the leader...
> Then you aren't the leader. And if you aren't the leader, then you
> aren't the Premier. Get used to it Mr. Higgs. You do not control the
> keys to the Premier's office... Your party does.
>
>
> Sterling Wright
> Reply to Murray Brown
> I thought the voters decided.
>
>
> David Amos
> Content Deactivated
> Reply to Sterling Wright
> What did Higgy and his new buddy do to your beloved party?
>
>
> David Amos
> Reply to Murray Brown
> Close but no cigar
>
>
>
>
> Benny Swim
> Mark Paul-Elias does not apparently read the news. This is like Higgs'
> family has put all his worldly possessions on the sidewalk and changed
> the locks on the door. In that this is no small family disagreement.
>
> No surprise that Higgs would put himself ahead of his party and his
> province. He is a bitter ender of there ever was one. This is going to
> get much worse in the days ahead.
>
> Donald LeBlanc
> Reply to Benny Swim
> Agree, other than his party is the Higgs Party, not the PC Party and
> his Province is the Irving’s Province, IMO of course.
>
>
> David Amos
> Content Deactivated
> Reply to Benny Swim
> When was the last time you believed a lawyer working with a politician
> who is currently the Justice Minister?
>
>
>
>
>
> Rhys Philbin
> This topic has run its course.
>
> Next!
>
> Stephen Robertson
> Reply to Rhys Philbin
> You can only hope.
>
>
> David Amos
> Reply to Rhys Philbin
> Dream on
>
>
>
>
> Alison Jackson
> "I think we have a path forward here as we work through some of our
> issues," he said.
>
> -
>
> But YOU are the issue McFly!
>
> Rick Grayson
> Reply to Alison Jackson
> I think the premier fails to realize that the govt works as a
> democracy and not a dictatorship. 3 cabinet ministers resign. 1 the
> longest standing member of the legislature. Seems like there is a
> common denominator.
>
>
> Ed Armstrong
> Reply to Alison Jackson
> Just remember the last two resignations and the caucus revolt were
> from people that never supported Highs from day one. He knew it and
> they knew it. The first one was insubordination, he quit seconds
> before he would have been fired.
>
>
> Rachel Woods
> Reply to Ed Armstrong
> “They never supported him since day one”
>
> That is false. He wouldn’t have made them cabinet ministers if they
> didn’t support him.
>
> Matt Steele
> Reply to Ed Armstrong
> Exactly right .
>
>
> Ed Armstrong
> Reply to Rachel Woods
> They both supported someone else for the leadership right up to and
> including the last ballot. They got in cabinet because they were 2 of
> the most experienced MLAs he had. Who had more Cabinet Experience that
> was excluded from cabinet?
>
>
> Doug Cochran
> Reply to Alison Jackson
> "But the party is really united and we intend to stay united" says it
> all. I think Mr Higgs is in tune with the majority and the majority is
> in tune with him.
>
>
> Rachel Woods
> Reply to Doug Cochran
> Is that why his approval ratings have plummeted and are the lowest of
> any Premier in the country?
>
>
> Doug Cochran
> Reply to Alison Jackson
> Won't matter much when he wins next election
>
>
> David Webb
> Reply to Rachel Woods
> You do know that there is only one poll that counts. Polling done for
> any party (paid for) are easily manipulated to get the result they
> desire, which they then advertise as the definitive authority. For
> example a poll done in only liberal held ridings would look quite
> different in conservative held ridings.
>
>
> Michael Cain
> Reply to Doug Cochran
> That tune you hear must be "(Na Na Hey Hey) Kiss Him Goodbye".
>
>
> Donald LeBlanc
> Reply to Doug Cochran
> Are you referring to the majority of right wing Western separatists?
>
>
> David Amos
> Reply to Ed Armstrong
> Why not explain to the folks why I ran in Sussex-Fundy-St. Martins in 2018?
>
>
> David Amos
> Reply to Ed Armstrong
> Howcome you dudes quit sending me butter tarts?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.cbc.ca/news/
>
>
> Another N.B. cabinet minister quits as turmoil over Higgs's leadership
> deepens
> Trevor Holder resigns not long after 4 former party presidents call
> for premier to leave
>
> Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Jun 23, 2023 9:28 AM ADT
>
>
> Bald man with glasses stands in lobby of legislature with reporters
> around him. Longtime Progressive Conservative MLA Trevor Holder has
> stepped down from the New Brunswick cabinet. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)
>
> The turmoil within New Brunswick's Progressive Conservative Party was
> deepening Friday morning as another minister quit Premier Blaine
> Higgs's cabinet and four former top party officials demanded the
> premier resign.
>
> Portland-Simonds MLA Trevor Holder, the longest-serving MLA in the
> legislature, announced in an open letter he was quitting as minister
> of post-secondary education, training and labour.
>
> "Under the leadership of Premier Higgs, caucus has been less about
> consensus and more about him getting his own way," Holder wrote.
>
> Holder said he has tried many times to explain to the premier the
> importance of working more collaboratively but to no avail.
>
> "While I have tried my best to continue to work to maintain the
> integrity of the caucus system, I have finally come to the conclusion
> that this is no longer possible."
>
> A man with grey hair and glasses, wearing a blue suit, white collared
> shirt and blue tie, speaks into several reporters' microphones as a
> number of other people behind him look on. Premier Blaine Higgs has
> been facing backlash from his own MLAs. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)
>
> He also rapped the premier for "his lack of empathy as well as his
> inability to listen to valid concerns from all members of his caucus."
>
> Holder was first elected in the 1999 election and has been a minister
> under three different PC premiers.
>
> He said he plans to stay on as MLA for Portland-Simonds and called on
> party members to "build a thoughtful conservative movement in this
> province that brings people together rather than divide them."
>
> Holder's letter was sent out just one hour after four past presidents
> of the party called on Higgs to resign immediately.
>
> They wrote in their statement that Higgs has achieved a lot during his
> more than four years as premier but also lacks the ability to achieve
> "the delicate balance" required to govern New Brunswick.
>
> "We ask that you avoid a disruptive, public battle that could tear the
> party apart. We ask that you leave graciously," the letter says.
>
> "You have had some important successes as Premier of New Brunswick.
> But the moment now demands that you pass the baton and the PCNB
> reorient itself to face the future and move forward."
>
> PC caucus members voice support for Higgs amid push for leadership
> review
>
> Analysis
> Blaine Higgs, a visitor to the PC Party, may soon be shown the door
>
> The letter is signed by Claude Williams, Lester Young, Brian Harquail
> and Jason Stephen, all former presidents of the New Brunswick party.
>
> The four former presidents accused Higgs of trying to make the
> internal fight a fight about Policy 713, the policy on protections for
> LGBTQ students in provincial schools that the government recently
> revised.
>
> But they said the problems run deeper and include the premier's
> attempts to replace French immersion and weaken district education
> councils and to eliminate elected members of regional health authority
> boards.
>
> "Policy 713 was just the tipping point in a long line of disrespect he
> has shown to our Party, its values and its traditions," they wrote.
>
> Stephen said in an interview that as a party volunteer for more than
> three decades, it was hard for him to sign the letter.
>
> But he believes the party's future is at stake, including in the next
> election in October 2024.
>
> "This is going to turn into a very divisive program, I believe. That's
> why I'm asking him to retire and pass the torch. He can leave a legacy
> of doing some very good things. But that legacy will be different if
> he tries to carry a fractured party into the election."
>
> Medium shot of man in suit speakingJason Stephen, former president of
> the Progressive Conservative Party of New Brunswick, says Higgs should
> resign or else he will divide the party. (Jacques Boissinot/Canadian
> Press)
>
> Southwest Miramichi-Bay du Vin MLA Mike Dawson said he's "behind
> Blaine Higgs 100 per cent" and doesn't understand what Holder's
> resignation will accomplish.
>
> Since he was elected in a byelection last year, Dawson said, he's been
> in the Premier's Office many times, discussing issues with Higgs.
>
> "Instead of letting the pot simmer and boil over, you go into the
> office, you have the discussions and you come out of the office on a
> level playing field, and everyone understands where each other
> stands," he said.
>
> Dawson also defended the premier's hands-on approach to governing,
> which former cabinet minister Dorothy Shephard and others have
> complained about.
>
> "Blaine Higgs is the boss of the PC party. He's the CEO," Dawson said.
> WATCH | Dorothy Shephard, minister of social development, resigns from
> cabinet:
> Dorothy Shephard resigns from cabinet
> Duration 2:00
> In a note addressed to the premier, the social development minister
> said, ‘I can no longer remain in your cabinet.’
>
> Holder's resignation follows that of Shephard, his Saint John
> colleague who quit last week after she, Holder, two other ministers
> and two backbench PC MLA defied Higgs during a vote in the
> legislature.
>
> They joined with the opposition parties to pass a Liberal motion
> calling for more consultations on Policy 713.
>
> Holder said in his letter he now has to do "some significant soul
> searching" after a 24-year career in the legislature.
>
> Critics of Higgs within the party have collected 26 letters from
> presidents of party riding presidents calling for a leadership review.
>
> That's six more than the threshold under the party constitution for
> the PC provincial council to debate it at an upcoming meeting.
>
> It also represents a majority of the 49 riding organizations in the
> province.
>
> Earlier this week Higgs called the push for a review "a strategically
> planned political drama" that has been "a focus from a certain group
> for a few years now" and that was heightened by the Policy 713 debate.
>
> On Thursday two PC caucus members, cabinet minister Réjean Savoie and
> backbench MLA Sherry Wilson, said they support Higgs staying on.
>
> Wilson said PC MLAs who can't support his leadership "need to go and
> just retire, just get out of politics, if that's the way they think."
>
> Cross Country Checkup wants to know if you think Canada is becoming
> more or less accepting of LGBTQ rights. What conversations are you
> having? Fill out the details on this form and send us your thoughts
> and stories.
> ABOUT THE AUTHOR
>
> Jacques Poitras
>
> Provincial Affairs reporter
>
> Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New
> Brunswick since 2000. He grew up in Moncton and covered Parliament in
> Ottawa for the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal. He has reported on
> every New Brunswick election since 1995 and won awards from the Radio
> Television Digital News Association, the National Newspaper Awards and
> Amnesty International. He is also the author of five non-fiction books
> about New Brunswick politics and history.
> CBC's Journalistic Standards and Practices
>
>
>
> 932 Comments
>
>
>
> David Amos
> I wonder if Trevor Holder conferred with his former assistant who is
> now the Global Director Harper & Associates?
>
>
>
>
> https://www.cbc.ca/news/
>
> PC caucus members voice support for Higgs amid push for leadership review
> Moncton Southwest MLA says rebels should quit politics if they don’t
> like premier’s approach
>
> Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Jun 22, 2023 4:40 PM ADT
>
>
> A man with grey hair and glasses, wearing a blue suit, white collared
> shirt and blue tie, speaks into several reporters' microphones as a
> number of other people behind him look on. Premier Blaine Higgs fields
> questions from reporters, backed by caucus members who supported him
> on Policy 713, including Réjean Savoie (with briefcase). (Jacques
> Poitras/CBC)
>
> Premier Blaine Higgs is getting vocal support from some members of his
> cabinet and caucus as he faces a growing push to remove him as leader
> of New Brunswick's Progressive Conservative party.
>
> Moncton Southwest PC MLA Sherry Wilson says Higgs's record on fiscal
> management and improving health care is a strong one, and members of
> the PC caucus who don't like his leadership should quit.
>
> "For the people who don't support our premier, and don't look at the
> good work and the big picture and what's best for the people we serve
> here in New Brunswick, I think maybe it's time for them to step away,"
> she said.
>
> Critics of Higgs within the party say they have gathered letters from
> 26 presidents of PC riding associations and 50 rank-and-file members
> overall — more than enough to start the process of seeking to remove
> Higgs.
>
> A woman stands at a CBC microphone in an art gallery. Sherry Wilson,
> former minister of Service New Brunswick, said those Tory MLAs should
> leave if they can't endorse Higgs's approach. (CBC)
>
> Those letters were gathered over the last 10 days as a debate over
> Policy 713, on the protection of LGBTQ students in provincial schools,
> erupted at the legislature.
>
> Four cabinet ministers and two backbench PC MLAs voted with a Liberal
> opposition motion calling for consultations, helping to carry the
> motion 26-20.
>
> Analysis
> Blaine Higgs, a visitor to the PC Party, may soon be shown the door
>
> Wilson said those Tory MLAs should leave if they can't endorse Higgs's
> approach.
>
> "To me it's a Conservative value that parents are involved in their
> children's lives. How do we fix it? I think maybe some of them maybe
> need to step down. They need to go and just retire, just get out of
> politics if that's the way they think."
>
> A woman with short grey hair and glasses glances to the left of the
> photo with a serious expression. It's fairly close-up and only the
> collar of a black blouse with aqua squares and some red patterning is
> visible. Former cabinet minister Dorothy Shephard warned Premier Higgs
> in October 2021 that his hands-on management style was alienating
> members of his cabinet and threatened to "destroy" his government.
> (Shane Magee/CBC)
>
> Former minister Dorothy Shephard quit the cabinet last week but
> remains a PC MLA.
>
> She said Higgs's handling of Policy 713 was "the last straw" and the
> latest in a string of examples where he has cut the cabinet and caucus
> out of decision-making and instead micromanaged issues.
>
> But Wilson defended that approach.
>
> "Blaine has his own leadership style. He does. But look at the work
> that's been done under his leadership. … He is the premier and he
> needs to know what's going on in every sector in government," she
> said.
>
> "In any of the departments, if something were to go wrong, the bucks
> stops with him. He needs to know so he can work with us and guide us."
>
> Two men hold hands, raising hands above their heads in victory signal.
> Premier Blaine Higgs celebrating with Miramichi Bay-Neguac MLA-elect
> Réjean Savoie after Savoie won a byelection last year. (Jacques
> Poitras/CBC)
>
> Regional Development Corporation Minister Réjean Savoie, elected last
> year in a byelection in Miramichi Bay-Neguac, also defended Higgs.
>
> "The premier has done his job well," Savoie said. "We've never been in
> such a strong financial position."
>
> He said he worried that the public split would damage the PC party.
>
> "When we have a family disagreement, it should happen behind closed
> doors. … and the Progressive Conservative party is a family."
>
> Savoie was among the MLAs who stood behind Higgs in a media scrum
> minutes after the government lost the vote on the Policy 713 motion
> last Thursday.
>
> PC rebels say majority of riding presidents support ousting Higgs
>
> Minister quits as legislature condemns N.B. premier's LGBTQ policy
> change
>
> He said the impact of the changes to the policy have been exaggerated.
>
> "I hope this will end well and we can try to calm things down," he said.
>
> Former PC cabinet minister Jody Carr, whose brother Jeff Carr is a
> minister in the government and among those who voted for the motion,
> tweeted Thursday that it was sad to see Higgs "lose the confidence of
> his party, caucus and citizens, and be the last one to realize it."
>
> Wilson was one of the few PC MLAs who supported Higgs in his campaign
> for the party leadership in 2016.
>
> She became minister of women's equality and minister of Service New
> Brunswick when the party took power after the 2018 election, but was
> shuffled out of the cabinet when the PCs were re-elected in 2020.
> ABOUT THE AUTHOR
>
> Jacques Poitras
>
> Provincial Affairs reporter
>
> Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New
> Brunswick since 2000. He grew up in Moncton and covered Parliament in
> Ottawa for the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal. He has reported on
> every New Brunswick election since 1995 and won awards from the Radio
> Television Digital News Association, the National Newspaper Awards and
> Amnesty International. He is also the author of five non-fiction books
> about New Brunswick politics and history.
> CBC's Journalistic Standards and Practices
>
>
>
> 93 Comments
>
>
>
> David Amos
> The former minister of Service New Brunswick Sherry Wilson never did
> find my Harley. Perhaps she will now?
>
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Date: Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 12:51 PM
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Date: Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 12:51 PM
Subject: Hey Eddy why play dumb? You know who I am and what I have been up to in a very public fashion in our neck of the woods for the past 20 years
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>>>>> d?put?e en tant que ministre de la Justice et procureure g?n?rale du
>>>>> Canada. Pour toute correspondance future adress?e ? la ministre de la
>>>>> Justice, veuillez ?crire directement au minist?re de la Justice ?
>>>>> mcu@justice.gc.ca ou appelez au 613-957-4222.
>>>>>
>>>>> Merci
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Original message ----------
>>>>> From: "MinFinance / FinanceMin (FIN)"
>>>>> <fin.minfinance-financemin.fin
>>>>> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 16:53:17 +0000
>>>>> Subject: RE: Re Emails to Department of Justice and Province of Nova
>>>>> Scotia
>>>>> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.c
>>>>>
>>>>> The Department of Finance acknowledges receipt of your electronic
>>>>> correspondence. Please be assured that we appreciate receiving your
>>>>> comments.
>>>>>
>>>>> Le ministère des Finances accuse réception de votre correspondance
>>>>> électronique. Soyez assuré(e) que nous apprécions recevoir vos
>>>>> commentaires.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Original message ----------
>>>>> From: Newsroom <newsroom@globeandmail.com>
>>>>> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 16:53:16 +0000
>>>>> Subject: Automatic reply: Re Emails to Department of Justice and
>>>>> Province of Nova Scotia
>>>>> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.c
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for contacting The Globe and Mail.
>>>>>
>>>>> If your matter pertains to newspaper delivery or you require technical
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>>>>>
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>>>>> publiceditor@globeandmail.com<
>>>>>
>>>>> Letters to the Editor can be sent to letters@globeandmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>> This is the correct email address for requests for news coverage and
>>>>> press releases.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Original message ----------
>>>>> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.c
>>>>> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 12:53:03 -0400
>>>>> Subject: Re Emails to Department of Justice and Province of Nova
>>>>> Scotia
>>>>> To: wrscott@nbpower.com, "brian.gallant" <brian.gallant@gnb.ca>,
>>>>> "blaine.higgs" <blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>, "David.Coon"
>>>>> <David.Coon@gnb.ca>, krisaustin <krisaustin@peoplesalliance.ca
>>>>> "rick.doucet" <rick.doucet@gnb.ca>, "Sollows, David (ERD/DER)"
>>>>> <david.sollows@gnb.ca>, "Robert. Jones" <Robert.Jones@cbc.ca>,
>>>>> "robert.gauvin" <robert.gauvin@gnb.ca>, kevin.a.arseneau@gnb.ca,
>>>>> "Bill.Fraser" <Bill.Fraser@gnb.ca>, "John.Ames" <John.Ames@gnb.ca>,
>>>>> gerry.lowe@gnb.ca, "hugh.flemming" <hugh.flemming@gnb.ca>,
>>>>> michelle.conroy@gnb.ca, "art.odonnell" <art.odonnell@nb.aibn.com>,
>>>>> "jake.stewart" <jake.stewart@gnb.ca>, mike.holland@gnb.ca, votejohnw
>>>>> <votejohnw@gmail.com>, andrea.anderson-mason@gnb.ca,
>>>>> greg.thompson2@gnb.ca, jean-claude.d'amours@gnb.ca,
>>>>> jacques.j.leblanc@gnb.ca, megan.mitton@gnb.ca, keith.chiasson@gnb.ca,
>>>>> "serge.rousselle" <serge.rousselle@gnb.ca>, robert.mckee@gnb.ca,
>>>>> rick.desaulniers@gnb.ca, premier <premier@gnb.ca>, "Dominic.Cardy"
>>>>> <Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca>, gphlaw@nb.aibn.com, wharrison
>>>>> <wharrison@nbpower.com>, "Furey, John" <jfurey@nbpower.com>,
>>>>> "Jody.Wilson-Raybould" <Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc.
>>>>> "clare.barry" <clare.barry@justice.gc.ca>, mcu <mcu@justice.gc.ca>,
>>>>> "hon.ralph.goodale" <hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca>,
>>>>> "Hon.Dominic.LeBlanc" <Hon.Dominic.LeBlanc@canada.ca
>>>>> <Bill.Morneau@canada.ca>, PREMIER <PREMIER@gov.ns.ca>,
>>>>> JUSTWEB@novascotia.ca, LauraLee.Langley@novascotia.ca
>>>>> Karen.Hudson@novascotia.ca, Joanne.Munro@novascotia.ca, Newsroom
>>>>> <Newsroom@globeandmail.com>, news <news@kingscorecord.com>, news
>>>>> <news@dailygleaner.com>
>>>>> Cc: "David.Raymond.Amos" <David.Raymond.Amos@gmail.com>
>>>>> <motomaniac333@gmail.com>, Victoria.Zinck@novascotia.ca,
>>>>> Kim.Fleming@novascotia.ca
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Original message ----------
>>>>> From: "McGrath, Stephen T" <Stephen.McGrath@novascotia.ca
>>>>> Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2018 12:40:22 +0000
>>>>> Subject: Automatic reply: Does anyone recall the email entitled "So
>>>>> Stephen McGrath if not you then just exactly who sent me this latest
>>>>> email from your office?"
>>>>> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your message, however I am no longer at the Department of
>>>>> Justice, and this email account is not being monitored.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please contact Kim Fleming at Kim.Fleming@novascotia.ca (phone
>>>>> 902-424-4023), or Vicky Zinck at Victoria.Zinck@novascotia.ca (phone
>>>>> 902-424-4390). Kim and Vicky will be able to redirect you.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Original message ----------
>>>>> From: Justice Website <JUSTWEB@novascotia.ca>
>>>>> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 14:21:11 +0000
>>>>> Subject: Emails to Department of Justice and Province of Nova Scotia
>>>>> To: "motomaniac333@gmail.com" <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mr. Amos,
>>>>> We acknowledge receipt of your recent emails to the Deputy Minister of
>>>>> Justice and lawyers within the Legal Services Division of the
>>>>> Department of Justice respecting a possible claim against the Province
>>>>> of Nova Scotia. Service of any documents respecting a legal claim
>>>>> against the Province of Nova Scotia may be served on the Attorney
>>>>> General at 1690 Hollis Street, Halifax, NS. Please note that we will
>>>>> not be responding to further emails on this matter.
>>>>>
>>>>> Department of Justice
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Original message ----------
>>>>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>>>>> Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 15:16:38 -0400
>>>>> Subject: Attn Laura Lee Langley, Karen Hudson and Joanne Munro I just
>>>>> called all three of your offices to inform you of my next lawsuit
>>>>> against Nova Scotia
>>>>> To: LauraLee.Langley@novascotia.ca
>>>>> Joanne.Munro@novascotia.ca
>>>>> Cc: David Amos david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>> https://novascotia.ca/exec_cou
>>>>>
>>>>> https://novascotia.ca/exec_cou
>>>>>
>>>>> Laura Lee Langley
>>>>> 1700 Granville Street, 5th Floor
>>>>> One Government Place
>>>>> Halifax, Nova Scotia B3J 1X5
>>>>> Phone: (902) 424-8940
>>>>> Fax: (902) 424-0667
>>>>> Email: LauraLee.Langley@novascotia.ca
>>>>>
>>>>> https://novascotia.ca/just/dep
>>>>>
>>>>> Karen Hudson Q.C.
>>>>> 1690 Hollis Street, 7th Floor
>>>>> Joseph Howe Building
>>>>> Halifax, NS B3J 3J9
>>>>> Phone: (902) 424-4223
>>>>> Fax: (902) 424-0510
>>>>> Email: Karen.Hudson@novascotia.ca
>>>>>
>>>>> https://novascotia.ca/sns/ceo.
>>>>>
>>>>> Joanne Munro:
>>>>> 1505 Barrington Street, 14-South
>>>>> Maritime Centre
>>>>> Halifax, Nova Scotia B3J 3K5
>>>>> Phone: (902) 424-4089
>>>>> Fax: (902) 424-5510
>>>>> Email: Joanne.Munro@novascotia.ca
>>>>>
>>>>> If you don't wish to speak to me before I begin litigation then I
>>>>> suspect the Integrity Commissioner New Brunswick or the Federal Crown
>>>>> Counsel can explain the email below and the documents hereto attached
>>>>> to you and your Premier etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Veritas Vincit
>>>>> David Raymond Amos
>>>>> 902 800 0369
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>>>>> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 09:32:09 -0400
>>>>> Subject: Attn Integrity Commissioner Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
>>>>> To: coi@gnb.ca
>>>>> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Good Day Sir
>>>>>
>>>>> After I heard you speak on CBC I called your office again and managed
>>>>> to speak to one of your staff for the first time
>>>>>
>>>>> Please find attached the documents I promised to send to the lady who
>>>>> answered the phone this morning. Please notice that not after the Sgt
>>>>> at Arms took the documents destined to your office his pal Tanker
>>>>> Malley barred me in writing with an "English" only document.
>>>>>
>>>>> These are the hearings and the dockets in Federal Court that I
>>>>> suggested that you study closely.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is the docket in Federal Court
>>>>>
>>>>> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.
>>>>>
>>>>> These are digital recordings of the last three hearings
>>>>>
>>>>> Dec 14th https://archive.org/details/Ba
>>>>>
>>>>> January 11th, 2016 https://archive.org/details/Ja
>>>>>
>>>>> April 3rd, 2017
>>>>>
>>>>> https://archive.org/details/Ap
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is the docket in the Federal Court of Appeal
>>>>>
>>>>> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The only hearing thus far
>>>>>
>>>>> May 24th, 2017
>>>>>
>>>>> https://archive.org/details/Ma
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This Judge understnds the meaning of the word Integrity
>>>>>
>>>>> Date: 20151223
>>>>>
>>>>> Docket: T-1557-15
>>>>>
>>>>> Fredericton, New Brunswick, December 23, 2015
>>>>>
>>>>> PRESENT: The Honourable Mr. Justice Bell
>>>>>
>>>>> BETWEEN:
>>>>>
>>>>> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
>>>>>
>>>>> Plaintiff
>>>>>
>>>>> and
>>>>>
>>>>> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
>>>>>
>>>>> Defendant
>>>>>
>>>>> ORDER
>>>>>
>>>>> (Delivered orally from the Bench in Fredericton, New Brunswick, on
>>>>> December 14, 2015)
>>>>>
>>>>> The Plaintiff seeks an appeal de novo, by way of motion pursuant to
>>>>> the Federal Courts Rules (SOR/98-106), from an Order made on November
>>>>> 12, 2015, in which Prothonotary Morneau struck the Statement of Claim
>>>>> in its entirety.
>>>>>
>>>>> At the outset of the hearing, the Plaintiff brought to my attention a
>>>>> letter dated September 10, 2004, which he sent to me, in my then
>>>>> capacity as Past President of the New Brunswick Branch of the Canadian
>>>>> Bar Association, and the then President of the Branch, Kathleen Quigg,
>>>>> (now a Justice of the New Brunswick Court of Appeal). In that letter
>>>>> he stated:
>>>>>
>>>>> As for your past President, Mr. Bell, may I suggest that you check the
>>>>> work of Frank McKenna before I sue your entire law firm including you.
>>>>> You are your brother’s keeper.
>>>>>
>>>>> Frank McKenna is the former Premier of New Brunswick and a former
>>>>> colleague of mine at the law firm of McInnes Cooper. In addition to
>>>>> expressing an intention to sue me, the Plaintiff refers to a number of
>>>>> people in his Motion Record who he appears to contend may be witnesses
>>>>> or potential parties to be added. Those individuals who are known to
>>>>> me personally, include, but are not limited to the former Prime
>>>>> Minister of Canada, The Right Honourable Stephen Harper; former
>>>>> Attorney General of Canada and now a Justice of the Manitoba Court of
>>>>> Queen’s Bench, Vic Toews; former member of Parliament Rob Moore;
>>>>> former Director of Policing Services, the late Grant Garneau; former
>>>>> Chief of the Fredericton Police Force, Barry McKnight; former Staff
>>>>> Sergeant Danny Copp; my former colleagues on the New Brunswick Court
>>>>> of Appeal, Justices Bradley V. Green and Kathleen Quigg, and, retired
>>>>> Assistant Commissioner Wayne Lang of the Royal Canadian Mounted
>>>>> Police.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the circumstances, given the threat in 2004 to sue me in my
>>>>> personal capacity and my past and present relationship with many
>>>>> potential witnesses and/or potential parties to the litigation, I am
>>>>> of the view there would be a reasonable apprehension of bias should I
>>>>> hear this motion. See Justice de Grandpré’s dissenting judgment in
>>>>> Committee for Justice and Liberty et al v National Energy Board et al,
>>>>> [1978] 1 SCR 369 at p 394 for the applicable test regarding
>>>>> allegations of bias. In the circumstances, although neither party has
>>>>> requested I recuse myself, I consider it appropriate that I do so.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> AS A RESULT OF MY RECUSAL, THIS COURT ORDERS that the Administrator of
>>>>> the Court schedule another date for the hearing of the motion. There
>>>>> is no order as to costs.
>>>>>
>>>>> “B. Richard Bell”
>>>>> Judge
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Below after the CBC article about your concerns (I made one comment
>>>>> already) you will find the text of just two of many emails I had sent
>>>>> to your office over the years since I first visited it in 2006.
>>>>>
>>>>> I noticed that on July 30, 2009, he was appointed to the the Court
>>>>> Martial Appeal Court of Canada Perhaps you should scroll to the
>>>>> bottom of this email ASAP and read the entire Paragraph 83 of my
>>>>> lawsuit now before the Federal Court of Canada?
>>>>>
>>>>> "FYI This is the text of the lawsuit that should interest Trudeau the
>>>>> most
>>>>>
>>>>> http://davidraymondamos3.blogs
>>>>>
>>>>> 83 The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war
>>>>> in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to
>>>>> allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over
>>>>> five years after he began his bragging:
>>>>>
>>>>> January 13, 2015
>>>>> This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate
>>>>>
>>>>> December 8, 2014
>>>>> Why Canada Stood Tall!
>>>>>
>>>>> Friday, October 3, 2014
>>>>> Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And
>>>>> Stupid Justin Trudeau?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Vertias Vincit
>>>>> David Raymond Amos
>>>>> 902 800 0369
>>>>>
>>>>> P.S. Whereas this CBC article is about your opinion of the actions of
>>>>> the latest Minister Of Health trust that Mr Boudreau and the CBC have
>>>>> had my files for many years and the last thing they are is ethical.
>>>>> Ask his friends Mr Murphy and the RCMP if you don't believe me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Subject:
>>>>> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:02:35 -0400
>>>>> From: "Murphy, Michael B. \(DH/MS\)" MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca
>>>>> To: motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>>>>>
>>>>> January 30, 2007
>>>>>
>>>>> WITHOUT PREJUDICE
>>>>>
>>>>> Mr. David Amos
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Mr. Amos:
>>>>>
>>>>> This will acknowledge receipt of a copy of your e-mail of December 29,
>>>>> 2006 to Corporal Warren McBeath of the RCMP.
>>>>>
>>>>> Because of the nature of the allegations made in your message, I have
>>>>> taken the measure of forwarding a copy to Assistant Commissioner Steve
>>>>> Graham of the RCMP “J” Division in Fredericton.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>
>>>>> Honourable Michael B. Murphy
>>>>> Minister of Health
>>>>>
>>>>> CM/cb
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Warren McBeath warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:34:53 -0500
>>>>> From: "Warren McBeath" warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>>>>> To: kilgoursite@ca.inter.net, MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca,
>>>>> nada.sarkis@gnb.ca, wally.stiles@gnb.ca, dwatch@web.net,
>>>>> motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>>>>> CC: ottawa@chuckstrahl.com, riding@chuckstrahl.com,John.Fo
>>>>> Oda.B@parl.gc.ca,"Bev BUSSON" bev.busson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
>>>>> "Paul Dube" PAUL.DUBE@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>>>>> Subject: Re: Remember me Kilgour? Landslide Annie McLellan has
>>>>> forgotten me but the crooks within the RCMP have not
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Mr. Amos,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for your follow up e-mail to me today. I was on days off
>>>>> over the holidays and returned to work this evening. Rest assured I
>>>>> was not ignoring or procrastinating to respond to your concerns.
>>>>>
>>>>> As your attachment sent today refers from Premier Graham, our position
>>>>> is clear on your dead calf issue: Our forensic labs do not process
>>>>> testing on animals in cases such as yours, they are referred to the
>>>>> Atlantic Veterinary College in Charlottetown who can provide these
>>>>> services. If you do not choose to utilize their expertise in this
>>>>> instance, then that is your decision and nothing more can be done.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for your other concerns regarding the US Government, false
>>>>> imprisonment and Federal Court Dates in the US, etc... it is clear
>>>>> that Federal authorities are aware of your concerns both in Canada
>>>>> the US. These issues do not fall into the purvue of Detachment
>>>>> and policing in Petitcodiac, NB.
>>>>>
>>>>> It was indeed an interesting and informative conversation we had on
>>>>> December 23rd, and I wish you well in all of your future endeavors.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>
>>>>> Warren McBeath, Cpl.
>>>>> GRC Caledonia RCMP
>>>>> Traffic Services NCO
>>>>> Ph: (506) 387-2222
>>>>> Fax: (506) 387-4622
>>>>> E-mail warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.archive.org/details
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.archive.org/details
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> FEDERAL EXPRES February 7, 2006
>>>>> Senator Arlen Specter
>>>>> United States Senate
>>>>> Committee on the Judiciary
>>>>> 224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
>>>>> Washington, DC 20510
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Mr. Specter:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been asked to forward the enclosed tapes to you from a man
>>>>> named, David Amos, a Canadian citizen, in connection with the matters
>>>>> raised in the attached letter. Mr. Amos has represented to me that
>>>>> these are illegal FBI wire tap tapes. I believe Mr. Amos has been in
>>>>> contact
>>>>> with you about this previously.
>>>>>
>>>>> Very truly yours,
>>>>> Barry A. Bachrach
>>>>> Direct telephone: (508) 926-3403
>>>>> Direct facsimile: (508) 929-3003
>>>>> Email: bbachrach@bowditch.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
>>>>> Office of the Integrity Commissioner
>>>>> Edgecombe House, 736 King Street
>>>>> Fredericton, N.B. CANADA E3B 5H1
>>>>> tel.: 506-457-7890
>>>>> fax: 506-444-5224
>>>>> e-mail:coi@gnb.ca
>>>>>
>>>>> Hon. Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.
>>>>> Integrity Commissioner
>>>>>
>>>>> Hon. Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C., who resides in Bathurst, N.B., is a
>>>>> native of Kedgwick, N.B., and is married to Huguette (Savoie)
>>>>> Deschênes. They have two sons.
>>>>>
>>>>> He studied at Saint-Joseph University (now Université de Moncton) from
>>>>> 1960 to 1962, University of Ottawa from 1962-1965 (B.A.), and
>>>>> University of New Brunswick (LL.B., 1968). He was admitted to the Law
>>>>> Society of New Brunswick in 1968. He was legal counsel to the
>>>>> Department of Justice in Fredericton from 1968 to 1971. He was in
>>>>> private practice from 1972 to 1982 and specialized in civil litigation
>>>>> as a partner in the law firm of Michaud, Leblanc, Robichaud, and
>>>>> Deschênes. While residing in Shediac, N.B., he served on town council
>>>>> and became the first president of the South East Economic Commission.
>>>>> He is a past president of the Richelieu Club in Shediac.
>>>>>
>>>>> In 1982, he was appointed a judge of the Court of Queen’s Bench of New
>>>>> Brunswick and of the Court of Appeal of New Brunswick in 2000.
>>>>>
>>>>> On July 30, 2009, he was appointed to the Court Martial Appeal Court
>>>>> of
>>>>> Canada.
>>>>>
>>>>> While on the Court of Appeal of New Brunswick, he was appointed
>>>>> President of the provincial Judicial Council and in 2012 Chairperson
>>>>> of the Federal Electoral Boundaries Commission for the Province of New
>>>>> Brunswick for the 2015 federal election.
>>>>>
>>>>> He was appointed Conflict of Interest Commissioner in December 2016
>>>>> and became New Brunswick’s first Integrity Commissioner on December
>>>>> 16, 2016 with responsibilities for conflict of interest issues related
>>>>> to Members of the Legislative Assembly. As of April 1, 2017 he
>>>>> supervises lobbyists of public office holders under the Lobbyists’
>>>>> Registration Act.
>>>>>
>>>>> As of September 1, 2017, he will be assuming the functions presently
>>>>> held by the Access to Information and Privacy Commissioner.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Original message ----------
>>>>> From: Póstur FOR <postur@for.is>
>>>>> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 22:05:47 +0000
>>>>> Subject: Re: Hey Premier Gallant please inform the questionable
>>>>> parliamentarian Birigtta Jonsdottir that although NB is a small "Have
>>>>> Not" province at least we have twice the population of Iceland and
>>>>> that not all of us are as dumb as she and her Prime Minister pretends
>>>>> to be..
>>>>> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Erindi þitt hefur verið móttekið / Your request has been received
>>>>>
>>>>> Kveðja / Best regards
>>>>> Forsætisráðuneytið / Prime Minister's Office
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Original message ----------
>>>>> From: Póstur IRR <postur@irr.is>
>>>>> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 22:05:47 +0000
>>>>> Subject: Re: Hey Premier Gallant please inform the questionable
>>>>> parliamentarian Birigtta Jonsdottir that although NB is a small "Have
>>>>> Not" province at least we have twice the population of Iceland and
>>>>> that not all of us are as dumb as she and her Prime Minister pretends
>>>>> to be..
>>>>> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Erindi þitt hefur verið móttekið. / Your request has been received.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kveðja / Best regards
>>>>> Innanríkisráðuneytið / Ministry of the Interior
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> From: "Gallant, Premier Brian (PO/CPM)" <Brian.Gallant@gnb.ca>
>>>>> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 21:39:17 +0000
>>>>> Subject: RE: After crossing paths with them bigtime in 2004 Davey Baby
>>>>> Coon and his many Green Meanie and Fake Left cohorts know why I won't
>>>>> hold my breath waiting for them to act with any semblance of integrity
>>>>> now N'esy Pas Chucky Leblanc??
>>>>> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for writing to the Premier of New Brunswick.
>>>>> Please be assured that your email has been received, will be reviewed,
>>>>> and a response will be forthcoming.
>>>>> Once again, thank you for taking the time to write.
>>>>>
>>>>> Merci d'avoir communiqué avec le premier ministre du
>>>>> Nouveau-Brunswick.
>>>>> Soyez assuré que votre courriel a bien été reçu, qu'il sera examiné
>>>>> et qu'une réponse vous sera acheminée.
>>>>> Merci encore d'avoir pris de temps de nous écrire.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely, / Sincèrement,
>>>>> Mallory Fowler
>>>>> Corespondence Manager / Gestionnaire de la correspondance
>>>>> Office of the Premier / Cabinet du premier ministre
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> From: Póstur FOR <postur@for.is>
>>>>> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 21:43:50 +0000
>>>>> Subject: Re: After crossing paths with them bigtime in 2004 Davey Baby
>>>>> Coon and his many Green Meanie and Fake Left cohorts know why I won't
>>>>> hold my breath waiting for them to act with any semblance of integrity
>>>>> now N'esy Pas Chucky Leblanc??
>>>>> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Erindi þitt hefur verið móttekið / Your request has been received
>>>>>
>>>>> Kveðja / Best regards
>>>>> Forsætisráðuneytið / Prime Minister's Office
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> From: Póstur IRR <postur@irr.is>
>>>>> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 21:43:50 +0000
>>>>> Subject: Re: After crossing paths with them bigtime in 2004 Davey Baby
>>>>> Coon and his many Green Meanie and Fake Left cohorts know why I won't
>>>>> hold my breath waiting for them to act with any semblance of integrity
>>>>> now N'esy Pas Chucky Leblanc??
>>>>> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Erindi þitt hefur verið móttekið. / Your request has been received.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kveðja / Best regards
>>>>> Innanríkisráðuneytið / Ministry of the Interior
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> For the public record I knew Birgitta was no better than the people
>>>>> she bitches about when she refused to discuss the QSLS blog with me
>>>>> while she was in Canada making her rounds in the Canadain media in
>>>>> January of 2011.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is the docket
>>>>>
>>>>> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.
>>>>>
>>>>> These are digital recordings of the last two hearings
>>>>>
>>>>> Dec 14th https://archive.org/details/Ba
>>>>>
>>>>> Jan 11th https://archive.org/details/Ja
>>>>>
>>>>> This me running for a seat in Parliament again while CBC denies it
>>>>> again
>>>>>
>>>>> Fundy Royal, New Brunswick Debate – Federal Elections 2015 - The Local
>>>>> Campaign, Rogers TV
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/
>>>>>
>>>>> Veritas Vincit
>>>>> David Raymond Amos
>>>>> 902 800 0369
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>>>> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 09:20:29 -0400
>>>>> Subject: Hey before you Red Coats swear an Oath to the Queen and the
>>>>> 42nd Parliament begins perhaps the turncoat Big Bad Billy Casey the
>>>>> Yankee carpetbagger David Lutz or some Boyz from NB should explain
>>>>> this lawsuit to you real slow.
>>>>> To: alaina@alainalockhart.ca, david <david@lutz.nb.ca>,
>>>>> "daniel.mchardie" <daniel.mchardie@cbc.ca>, info@waynelong.ca,
>>>>> info@ginettepetitpastaylor.ca, rarseno@nbnet.nb.ca,
>>>>> matt@mattdecourcey.ca, info@sergecormier.ca, pat@patfinnigan.ca,
>>>>> tj@tjharvey.ca, karen.ludwig.nb@gmail.com
>>>>> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>>>> <Frank.McKenna@td.com>, info@votezsteve.ca, info@billcasey.ca,
>>>>> "justin.trudeau.a1" <justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca>
>>>>> "dominic.leblanc.a1" <dominic.leblanc.a1@parl.gc.ca
>>>>> <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, jacques_poitras <jacques_poitras@cbc.ca>,
>>>>> "Jacques.Poitras" <Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>, "peter.mackay"
>>>>> <peter.mackay@justice.gc.ca>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> FYI This is the text of the lawsuit that should interest Trudeau the
>>>>> most
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://davidraymondamos3.blogs
>>>>>
>>>>> 83 The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war
>>>>> in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to
>>>>> allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over
>>>>> five years after he began his bragging:
>>>>>
>>>>> January 13, 2015
>>>>> This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate
>>>>>
>>>>> December 8, 2014
>>>>> Why Canada Stood Tall!
>>>>>
>>>>> Friday, October 3, 2014
>>>>> Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And
>>>>> Stupid Justin Trudeau
>>>>>
>>>>> Canada’s and Canadians free ride is over. Canada can no longer hide
>>>>> behind Amerka’s and NATO’s skirts.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I was still in Canadian Forces then Prime Minister Jean Chretien
>>>>> actually committed the Canadian Army to deploy in the second campaign
>>>>> in Iraq, the Coalition of the Willing. This was against or contrary to
>>>>> the wisdom or advice of those of us Canadian officers that were
>>>>> involved in the initial planning phases of that operation. There were
>>>>> significant concern in our planning cell, and NDHQ about of the dearth
>>>>> of concern for operational guidance, direction, and forces for
>>>>> operations after the initial occupation of Iraq. At the “last minute”
>>>>> Prime Minister Chretien and the Liberal government changed its mind.
>>>>> The Canadian government told our amerkan cousins that we would not
>>>>> deploy combat troops for the Iraq campaign, but would deploy a
>>>>> Canadian Battle Group to Afghanistan, enabling our amerkan cousins to
>>>>> redeploy troops from there to Iraq. The PMO’s thinking that it was
>>>>> less costly to deploy Canadian Forces to Afghanistan than Iraq. But
>>>>> alas no one seems to remind the Liberals of Prime Minister Chretien’s
>>>>> then grossly incorrect assumption. Notwithstanding Jean Chretien’s
>>>>> incompetence and stupidity, the Canadian Army was heroic,
>>>>> professional, punched well above it’s weight, and the PPCLI Battle
>>>>> Group, is credited with “saving Afghanistan” during the Panjway
>>>>> campaign of 2006.
>>>>>
>>>>> What Justin Trudeau and the Liberals don’t tell you now, is that then
>>>>> Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien committed, and deployed the
>>>>> Canadian army to Canada’s longest “war” without the advice, consent,
>>>>> support, or vote of the Canadian Parliament.
>>>>>
>>>>> What David Amos and the rest of the ignorant, uneducated, and babbling
>>>>> chattering classes are too addled to understand is the deployment of
>>>>> less than 75 special operations troops, and what is known by planners
>>>>> as a “six pac cell” of fighter aircraft is NOT the same as a
>>>>> deployment of a Battle Group, nor a “war” make.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Canadian Government or The Crown unlike our amerkan cousins have
>>>>> the “constitutional authority” to commit the Canadian nation to war.
>>>>> That has been recently clearly articulated to the Canadian public by
>>>>> constitutional scholar Phillippe Legasse. What Parliament can do is
>>>>> remove “confidence” in The Crown’s Government in a “vote of
>>>>> non-confidence.” That could not happen to the Chretien Government
>>>>> regarding deployment to Afghanistan, and it won’t happen in this
>>>>> instance with the conservative majority in The Commons regarding a
>>>>> limited Canadian deployment to the Middle East.
>>>>>
>>>>> President George Bush was quite correct after 911 and the terror
>>>>> attacks in New York; that the Taliban “occupied” and “failed state”
>>>>> Afghanistan was the source of logistical support, command and control,
>>>>> and training for the Al Quaeda war of terror against the world. The
>>>>> initial defeat, and removal from control of Afghanistan was vital and
>>>>> essential for the security and tranquility of the developed world. An
>>>>> ISIS “caliphate,” in the Middle East, no matter how small, is a clear
>>>>> and present danger to the entire world. This “occupied state,”
>>>>> or“failed state” will prosecute an unending Islamic inspired war of
>>>>> terror against not only the “western world,” but Arab states
>>>>> “moderate” or not, as well. The security, safety, and tranquility of
>>>>> Canada and Canadians are just at risk now with the emergence of an
>>>>> ISIS“caliphate” no matter how large or small, as it was with the
>>>>> Taliban and Al Quaeda “marriage” in Afghanistan.
>>>>>
>>>>> One of the everlasting “legacies” of the “Trudeau the Elder’s dynasty
>>>>> was Canada and successive Liberal governments cowering behind the
>>>>> amerkan’s nuclear and conventional military shield, at the same time
>>>>> denigrating, insulting them, opposing them, and at the same time
>>>>> self-aggrandizing ourselves as “peace keepers,” and progenitors of
>>>>> “world peace.” Canada failed. The United States of Amerka, NATO, the
>>>>> G7 and or G20 will no longer permit that sort of sanctimonious
>>>>> behavior from Canada or its government any longer. And Prime Minister
>>>>> Stephen Harper, Foreign Minister John Baird , and Cabinet are fully
>>>>> cognizant of that reality. Even if some editorial boards, and pundits
>>>>> are not.
>>>>>
>>>>> Justin, Trudeau “the younger” is reprising the time “honoured” liberal
>>>>> mantra, and tradition of expecting the amerkans or the rest of the
>>>>> world to do “the heavy lifting.” Justin Trudeau and his “butt buddy”
>>>>> David Amos are telling Canadians that we can guarantee our security
>>>>> and safety by expecting other nations to fight for us. That Canada can
>>>>> and should attempt to guarantee Canadians safety by providing
>>>>> “humanitarian aid” somewhere, and call a sitting US president a “war
>>>>> criminal.” This morning Australia announced they too, were sending
>>>>> tactical aircraft to eliminate the menace of an ISIS “caliphate.”
>>>>>
>>>>> In one sense Prime Minister Harper is every bit the scoundrel Trudeau
>>>>> “the elder” and Jean ‘the crook” Chretien was. Just As Trudeau, and
>>>>> successive Liberal governments delighted in diminishing,
>>>>> marginalizing, under funding Canadian Forces, and sending Canadian
>>>>> military men and women to die with inadequate kit and modern
>>>>> equipment; so too is Prime Minister Stephen Harper. Canada’s F-18s are
>>>>> antiquated, poorly equipped, and ought to have been replaced five
>>>>> years ago. But alas, there won’t be single RCAF fighter jock that
>>>>> won’t go, or won’t want to go, to make Canada safe or safer.
>>>>>
>>>>> My Grandfather served this country. My father served this country. My
>>>>> Uncle served this country. And I have served this country. Justin
>>>>> Trudeau has not served Canada in any way. Thomas Mulcair has not
>>>>> served this country in any way. Liberals and so called social
>>>>> democrats haven’t served this country in any way. David Amos, and
>>>>> other drooling fools have not served this great nation in any way. Yet
>>>>> these fools are more than prepared to ensure their, our safety to
>>>>> other nations, and then criticize them for doing so.
>>>>>
>>>>> Canada must again, now, “do our bit” to guarantee our own security,
>>>>> and tranquility, but also that of the world. Canada has never before
>>>>> shirked its responsibility to its citizens and that of the world.
>>>>>
>>>>> Prime Minister Harper will not permit this country to do so now
>>>>>
>>>>> From: dnd_mdn@forces.gc.ca
>>>>> Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 14:17:17 -0400
>>>>> Subject: RE: Re Greg Weston, The CBC , Wikileaks, USSOCOM, Canada and
>>>>> the War in Iraq (I just called SOCOM and let them know I was still
>>>>> alive
>>>>> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>> This is to confirm that the Minister of National Defence has received
>>>>> your email and it will be reviewed in due course. Please do not reply
>>>>> to this message: it is an automatic acknowledgement.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Original message ----------
>>>>> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>>>> Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 13:55:30 -0300
>>>>> Subject: Re Greg Weston, The CBC , Wikileaks, USSOCOM, Canada and the
>>>>> War in Iraq (I just called SOCOM and let them know I was still alive
>>>>> To: DECPR@forces.gc.ca, Public.Affairs@socom.mil,
>>>>> Raymonde.Cleroux@mpcc-cppm.gc.
>>>>> william.elliott@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>>>>> dnd_mdn@forces.gc.ca, media@drdc-rddc.gc.ca, information@forces.gc.ca,
>>>>> milner@unb.ca, charters@unb.ca, lwindsor@unb.ca,
>>>>> sarah.weir@mpcc-cppm.gc.ca, birgir <birgir@althingi.is>, smari
>>>>> <smari@immi.is>, greg.weston@cbc.ca, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>,
>>>>> susan@blueskystrategygroup.com
>>>>> eugene@blueskystrategygroup.co
>>>>> Cc: "Edith. Cody-Rice" <Edith.Cody-Rice@cbc.ca>, "terry.seguin"
>>>>> <terry.seguin@cbc.ca>, acampbell <acampbell@ctv.ca>, whistleblower
>>>>> <whistleblower@ctv.ca>
>>>>>
>>>>> I talked to Don Newman earlier this week before the beancounters David
>>>>> Dodge and Don Drummond now of Queen's gave their spin about Canada's
>>>>> Health Care system yesterday and Sheila Fraser yapped on and on on
>>>>> CAPAC during her last days in office as if she were oh so ethical.. To
>>>>> be fair to him I just called Greg Weston (613-288-6938) I suggested
>>>>> that he should at least Google SOUCOM and David Amos It would be wise
>>>>> if he check ALL of CBC's sources before he publishes something else
>>>>> about the DND EH Don Newman? Lets just say that the fact that your
>>>>> old CBC buddy, Tony Burman is now in charge of Al Jazeera English
>>>>> never impressed me. The fact that he set up a Canadian office is
>>>>> interesting though
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.blueskystrategygrou
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/me
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone can call me back and stress test my integrity after they read
>>>>> this simple pdf file. BTW what you Blue Sky dudes pubished about
>>>>> Potash Corp and BHP is truly funny. Perhaps Stevey Boy Harper or Brad
>>>>> Wall will fill ya in if you are to shy to call mean old me.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.scribd.com/doc/2718
>>>>>
>>>>> The Governor General, the PMO and the PCO offices know that I am not a
>>>>> shy political animal
>>>>>
>>>>> Veritas Vincit
>>>>> David Raymond Amos
>>>>> 902 800 0369
>>>>>
>>>>> Enjoy Mr Weston
>>>>> http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/news
>>>>>
>>>>> "But Lang, defence minister McCallum's chief of staff, says military
>>>>> brass were not entirely forthcoming on the issue. For instance, he
>>>>> says, even McCallum initially didn't know those soldiers were helping
>>>>> to plan the invasion of Iraq up to the highest levels of command,
>>>>> including a Canadian general.
>>>>>
>>>>> That general is Walt Natynczyk, now Canada's chief of defence staff,
>>>>> who eight months after the invasion became deputy commander of 35,000
>>>>> U.S. soldiers and other allied forces in Iraq. Lang says Natynczyk was
>>>>> also part of the team of mainly senior U.S. military brass that helped
>>>>> prepare for the invasion from a mobile command in Kuwait."
>>>>>
>>>>> http://baconfat53.blogspot.com
>>>>>
>>>>> "I remember years ago when the debate was on in Canada, about there
>>>>> being weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Our American 'friends"
>>>>> demanded that Canada join into "the Coalition of the Willing. American
>>>>> "veterans" and sportscasters loudly denounced Canada for NOT buying
>>>>> into the US policy.
>>>>>
>>>>> At the time I was serving as a planner at NDHQ and with 24 other of my
>>>>> colleagues we went to Tampa SOUCOM HQ to be involved in the planning
>>>>> in the planning stages of the op....and to report to NDHQ, that would
>>>>> report to the PMO upon the merits of the proposed operation. There was
>>>>> never at anytime an existing target list of verified sites where there
>>>>> were deployed WMD.
>>>>>
>>>>> Coalition assets were more than sufficient for the initial strike and
>>>>> invasion phase but even at that point in the planning, we were
>>>>> concerned about the number of "boots on the ground" for the occupation
>>>>> (and end game) stage of an operation in Iraq. We were also concerned
>>>>> about the American plans for occupation plans of Iraq because they at
>>>>> that stage included no contingency for a handing over of civil
>>>>> authority to a vetted Iraqi government and bureaucracy.
>>>>>
>>>>> There was no detailed plan for Iraq being "liberated" and returned to
>>>>> its people...nor a thought to an eventual exit plan. This was contrary
>>>>> to the lessons of Vietnam but also to current military thought, that
>>>>> folks like Colin Powell and "Stuffy" Leighton and others elucidated
>>>>> upon. "What's the mission" how long is the mission, what conditions
>>>>> are to met before US troop can redeploy? Prime Minister Jean Chretien
>>>>> and the PMO were even at the very preliminary planning stages wary of
>>>>> Canadian involvement in an Iraq operation....History would prove them
>>>>> correct. The political pressure being applied on the PMO from the
>>>>> George W Bush administration was onerous
>>>>>
>>>>> American military assets were extremely overstretched, and Canadian
>>>>> military assets even more so It was proposed by the PMO that Canadian
>>>>> naval platforms would deploy to assist in naval quarantine operations
>>>>> in the Gulf and that Canadian army assets would deploy in Afghanistan
>>>>> thus permitting US army assets to redeploy for an Iraqi
>>>>> operation....The PMO thought that "compromise would save Canadian
>>>>> lives and liberal political capital.. and the priority of which
>>>>> ....not necessarily in that order. "
>>>>>
>>>>> You can bet that I called these sneaky Yankees again today EH John
>>>>> Adams? of the CSE within the DND?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.socom.mil/SOCOMHome
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: edinnb <edinnb@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 11:36:35 -0300
Subject: RE: Hey Eddy did you forget I side with Higgy on 713 or the
letter I got from BHP before he was elected in 2010 and CBC published
your opinion?
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.c
713 is a bullshit policy for all this controversy, in reality it
relaxed the rules for older kids. As for the rest of the email, I'm
not sure what you are saying.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Collins, Susan J (COSEC)" <Susan.J.Collins@bhpbilliton.c
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:23:12 +1000
Subject: Email to BHP Billiton Chairman's
To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
Please find attached a letter from Mr Jac Nasser, Chairman of BHP
Billiton
Susan Collins
Company Secretariat
BHP Billiton | 180 Lonsdale St | Melbourne Vic 3000 |Australia
T: +61 3 9609 2654 | M: +61 427 713 994 | F: +61 3 9609 3290
E: susan.j.collins@bhpbilliton.co
<<Amos D 2010 09 14.pdf>>
-----Original Message-----
From: David Amos [mailto:david.raymond.amos@gma
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 8:36 AM
To: pr@potashcorp.com; Podwika@potashcorp.com;
fosterd@bennettjones.ca; corporate.relations@potashcorp
lgold.blcanada@b-l.com; shawn. graham; David.ALWARD@gnb.ca;
krisaustin; jacques_poitras@cbc.ca; cjcw@nbnet.nb.ca;
tomp.young@atlanticradio.roger
bruce.northrup@gnb.ca; atlbf@nb.aibn.com; akapoor@globeandmail.com;
nmacadam@globeandmail.com; vepp@globeandmail.com;
potash@mackenziepartners.com; contactus@kingsdaleshareholder
rick.hancox; Bernard.LeBlanc; Liebenberg, Andre;
mclellana@bennettjones.com; MooreR; danfour; oldmaison@yahoo.com;
Harris, Brendan; Dean.Buzza; Gilles. Blinn
Cc: wcoady; michel.desneiges@sade-els.org; producers@stu.ca;
WaterWarCrimes; Penny Bright; tony; Nasser, Jacques
Subject: Fwd: PotashCorp should mention my concerns about their lack
of ethical conduct and actions against me to your shareholers before
you people buy much stock in their stock eh?
With ANOTHER election in the near future I see no need to explain my
issues again about theexploitation of our natural resources to a
bunch of sneaky lawyers.(everyboy shoul checkout the pdf hereto
attache) especially our former Deputy Prime Minister Lanslide Annie
McLelllan an the RCMP thought they knew everything seven years ago and
did nothing let alone call me back just like you an your many
conservative cohorts NEVER did EH Brucy Baby Northrup? (902 800 0369
Notice my new contact number? You an the RCMP can forget Werner Bock's
now)
Clearly there is no need for politicians to try to be confidential
with mean old me when the Globe and Mail loves spiling the beans
sometimes ou woul think those unethical journlists woul know that
simple truths spoken amongst common folk about corrupt politicians
have a good habit of coming to the surface sooner or later anyway EH?
Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos
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---- Original Message -----
From: "McKnight, Gisele" McKnight.Gisele@kingscorecord.
To: lcampenella@ledger.com
Cc:motomaniac_02186@hotmail.co
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 2:53 PM
Subject: David Amos
Hello Lisa,
David Amos asked me to contact you. I met him last June after he became
an independent (not representing any political party) candidate in our
federal
election that was held June 28. He was a candidate in our constituency of
Fundy (now called Fundy-Royal).
I wrote a profile story about him, as I did all other candidates. That
story appeared in the Kings County Record June 22. A second story, written
by one of my reporters, appeared on the same date, which was a report on
the candidates' debate held June 18.
As I recall David Amos came last of four candidates in the election.
The winner got 14,997 votes, while Amos got 358.
I have attached the two stories that appeared, as well as a photo
taken by reporter Erin Hatfield during the debate. I couldn't find the photo
that ran, but this one is very similar.
A1-debate A1-amos,David for MP 24.doc debate 2.JPG
Gisele McKnight editor
Kings County Record
Sussex, New Brunswick
Canada
506-433-1070
Raising a Little Hell- Lively Debate Provokes Crowd
By Erin Hatfield
"If you don't like what you got, why don't you change it? If your
world is all screwed up, rearrange it."
The 1979 Trooper song Raise a Little Hell blared on the speakers at
the 8th Hussars Sports Center Friday evening as people filed in to
watch the Fundy candidates debate the issues. It was an accurate, if
unofficial, theme song for the debate.
The crowd of over 200 spectators was dwarfed by the huge arena, but as
they chose their seats, it was clear the battle lines were drawn.
Supporters of Conservative candidate Rob Moore naturally took the blue
chairs on the right of the rink floor while John Herron's Liberalswent
left. There were splashes of orange, supporters of NDP Pat Hanratty,
mixed throughout. Perhaps the loudest applause came from a row towards
the back, where supporters of independent candidate David Amos sat.
The debate was moderated by Leo Melanson of CJCW Radio and was
organized by the Sussex Valley Jaycees. Candidates wereasked a barrage
of questions bypanelists Gisele McKnight of the Kings County Record
and Lisa Spencer of CJCW.
Staying true to party platforms for the most part, candidates
responded to questions about the gun registry, same sex marriage, the
exodus of young people from the Maritimes and regulated gas prices.
Herron and Moore were clear competitors,constantly challenging each
other on their answers and criticizing eachothers' party leaders.
Hanratty flew under the radar, giving short, concise responses to the
questions while Amos provided some food for thought and a bit of comic
relief with quirky answers. "I was raised with a gun," Amos said in
response to the question of thenational gun registry. "Nobody's
getting mine and I'm not paying 10 cents for it."
Herron, a Progressive Conservative MP turned Liberal, veered from his
party'splatform with regard to gun control. "It was ill advised but
well intentioned," Herron said. "No matter what side of the house I am
on, I'm voting against it." Pat Hanratty agreed there were better
places for the gun registry dollars to be spent.Recreational hunters
shouldn't have been penalized by this gun registry," he said.
The gun registry issues provoked the tempers of Herron and Moore. At
one point Herron got out of his seat and threw a piece of paper in
front of Moore. "Read that," Herron said to Moore, referring to the
voting record of Conservative Party leader Steven Harper. According to
Herron, Harper voted in favour of the registry on the first and second
readings of the bill in 1995. "He voted against it when it counted, at
final count," Moore said. "We needa government with courage to
register sex offenders rather than register the property of law
abiding citizens."
The crowd was vocal throughout the evening, with white haired men and
women heckling from the Conservative side. "Shut up John," one woman
yelled. "How can you talk about selling out?" a man yelled whenHerron
spoke about his fear that the Conservatives are selling farmers out.
Although the Liberal side was less vocal, Kings East MLA Leroy
Armstrong weighed in at one point. "You're out of touch," Armstrong
yelled to Moore from the crowd when the debate turned to the cost of
post-secondary education. Later in the evening Amos challenged
Armstrong to a public debate of their own. "Talk is cheap. Any time,
anyplace," Armstrong responded.
As the crowd made its way out of the building following the debate,
candidates worked the room. They shook hands with well-wishers and
fielded questions from spectators-all part of the decision-making
process for the June 28 vote.
Cutline – David Amos, independent candidate in Fundy, with some of his
favourite possessions—motorcycles.
McKnight/KCR
The Unconventional Candidate
David Amos Isn't Campaigning For Your Vote, But….
By Gisele McKnight
FUNDY—He has a pack of cigarettes in his shirt pocket, a chain on his
wallet, a beard at least a foot long, 60 motorcycles and a cell phone
that rings to the tune of "Yankee Doodle."
Meet the latest addition to the Fundy ballot—David Amos.
The independent candidate lives in Milton, Massachusetts with his wife
and two children, but his place of residence does not stop him from
running for office in Canada.
One has only to be at least 18, a Canadian citizen and not be in jail
to meet Elections Canada requirements.
When it came time to launch his political crusade, Amos chose his
favourite place to do so—Fundy.
Amos, 52, is running for political office because of his
dissatisfaction with politicians.
"I've become aware of much corruption involving our two countries," he
said. "The only way to fix corruption is in the political forum."
The journey that eventually led Amos to politics began in Sussex in
1987. He woke up one morning disillusioned with life and decided he
needed to change his life.
"I lost my faith in mankind," he said. "People go through that
sometimes in midlife."
So Amos, who'd lived in Sussex since 1973, closed his Four Corners
motorcycle shop, paid his bills and hit the road with Annie, his 1952
Panhead motorcycle.
"Annie and I rode around for awhile (three years, to be exact)
experiencing the milk of human kindness," he said. "This is how you
renew your faith in mankind – you help anyone you can, you never ask
for anything, but you take what they offer."
For those three years, they offered food, a place to sleep, odd jobs
and conversation all over North America.
Since he and Annie stopped wandering, he has married, fathered a son
and a daughter and become a house-husband – Mr. Mom, as he calls
himself.
He also describes himself in far more colourful terms—a motorcyclist
rather than a biker, a "fun-loving, free-thinking, pig-headed
individual," a "pissed-off Maritimer" rather than an activist, a proud
Canadian and a "wild colonial boy."
Ironically, the man who is running for office has never voted in his life.
"But I have no right to criticize unless I offer my name," he said.
"It's alright to bitch in the kitchen, but can you walk the walk?"
Amos has no intention of actively campaigning.
"I didn't appreciate it when they (politicians) pounded on my door
interrupting my dinner," he said. "If people are interested, they can
call me. I'm not going to drive my opinions down their throats."
And he has no campaign budget, nor does he want one.
"I won't take any donations," he said. "Just try to give me some. It's
not about money. It goes against what I'm fighting about."
What he's fighting for is the discussion of issues – tainted blood,
the exploitation of the Maritimes' gas and oil reserves and NAFTA, to
name a few.
"The political issues in the Maritimes involve the three Fs – fishing,
farming and forestry, but they forget foreign issues," he said. "I'm
death on NAFTA, the back room deals and free trade. I say chuck it
(NAFTA) out the window.
NAFTA is the North American Free Trade Agreement which allows an
easier flow of goods between Canada, the United States and Mexico.
Amos disagrees with the idea that a vote for him is a wasted vote.
"There are no wasted votes," he said. "I want people like me,
especially young people, to pay attention and exercise their right.
Don't necessarily vote for me, but vote."
Although…if you're going to vote anyway, Amos would be happy to have
your X by his name.
"I want people to go into that voting booth, see my name, laugh and
say, 'what the hell.'"
> http://davidamos.blogspot.com/
>
> September 11th, 2004
>
> Dear Mr. Amos,
>
> On behalf of Her Excellency the Right Honourable Adrienne Clarkson, I
> acknowledge receipt of two sets of documents and CD regarding
> corruption, one received from you directly, and the other forwarded to
> us by the Office of the Lieutenant Governor of New Brunswick.
>
> I regret to inform you that the Governor General cannot intervene in
> matters that are the responsibility of elected officials and courts of
> Justice of Canada. You already contacted the various provincial
> authorities regarding your concerns, and these were the appropriate
> steps to take.
>
> Yours sincerely
> Renee Blanchet
> Office of the Secretary
> to the Governor General
>
> Jan 3rd, 2004
>
> Mr. David R. Amos
> 153 Alvin Avenue
> Milton, MA 02186
> U.S.A.
>
> Dear Mr. Amos
>
> Thank you for your letter of November 19th, 2003, addressed to my
> predecessor, the Honourble Wayne Easter, regarding your safety. I
> apologize for the delay in responding.
>
> If you have any concerns about your personal safety, I can only
> suggest that you contact the police of local jurisdiction. In
> addition, any evidence of criminal activity should be brought to their
> attention since the police are in the best position to evaluate the
> information and take action as deemed appropriate.
> I trust that this information is satisfactory.
>
> Yours sincerely
> A. Anne McLellan
>
>
> Criminal Code PART IV: OFFENCES AGAINST THE ADMINISTRATION OF LAW
AND JUSTICE Corruption and Disobedience
>
> 126. (1) Every one who, without lawful excuse, contravenes an Act of
> Parliament by wilfully doing anything that it forbids or by wilfully
> omitting to do anything that it requires to be done is, unless a
> punishment is expressly provided by law, guilty of an indictable
> offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years.
>
> 2) Any proceedings in respect of a contravention of or conspiracy to
> contravene an Act mentioned in subsection (1), other than this Act,
> may be instituted at the instance of the Government of Canada and
> conducted by or on behalf of that Government.
> R.S., 1985, c. C-46, s. 126; R.S., 1985, c. 27 (1st Supp.), s. 185(F).
>
> Veritas Vincit
>
> David Raymond Amos
>
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> Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 20:59:13 -0700 (PDT)
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> N.B. government to await federal probe into possible RCMP wrongdoing
> May 30, 2007 - 19:47
>
> By: KEVIN BISSETT
> FREDERICTON (CP) - New Brunswick Attorney General T.J. Burke declined
> comment Wednesday on allegations of wrongdoing within the provincial RCMP.
> At least two current and former Mounties in the province are among
> more than a dozen officers across the country who have alleged
> wrongdoing within the force, including abuse of power, harassment and
> the coverup of evidence.
> One of the published allegations was made by Daniel Bernier, a former
> RCMP corporal who lives near Fredericton. He claims he was removed
> from an investigation in which he said he found evidence of the misuse
> of federal funds by New Brunswick government officials in 1999.
> He alleges grants were wrongly approved to farmers.
> Once he was removed from the case, Bernier said an internal
> investigation by the RCMP was called into his conduct.
> "Our government doesn't respond to allegations," Burke said Wednesday
> when asked by reporters about the claims published this week.
> "We respond to factual information that is provided to us, information
> that we need to investigate and look at."
> William Gilmour, an Ontario lawyer representing some of the Mounties
> who made the allegations, said the current and former members are
> anxious to tell their stories, but there must be protection from reprisal.
> "We're actively seeking the government to afford a venue in the nature
> of a parliamentary committee, where there's some protection for these
> people, where they have agreed to come forward and tell their
> stories," he said Wednesday.
> Gilmour, who is an ex-Mountie, said he has been trying to get the
> federal government to call his clients before such a committee for a
> year, but so far nothing has happened.
> In the Commons on Wednesday, Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day was
> accused by the opposition of ignoring the turmoil.
> "The Conservative public safety minister's response is to shrug his
> shoulders, plug his ears and see no evil, hear no evil," said Liberal
> Sue Barnes.
> "Is this wilful blindness or gross negligence? When it comes to
> protecting the integrity of Canada's national police, why is the
> public safety minister thwarting real action?"
> Day responded by saying the government is "taking action to get to the
> bottom of some of the concerns that have been raised."
> Another New Brunswick Mountie, Staff Sgt. Ken Smith, is suing senior
> officers at J Division in Fredericton for alleged harassment, but the
> New Brunswick government has stepped in and stayed proceedings.
> The province has asked the Fredericton police force to fully
> investigate the Smith case, which includes allegations of unauthorized
> use of tracking devices on his police vehicle.
> "For the 30 years that I have had with the police force, my job has
> been to go out and investigate crime," Smith said. "To find that we
> have just as much crime happening within our organization, which is
> stopping us from doing our job, is very troubling for me and for the
> individuals who have come forward."
> Bernier said he's not surprised to hear that as many as 30 current and
> former Mounties would be willing to testify before a parliamentary
> committee.
> "The country of Canada is quite vast and the RCMP is all over the
> place, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who has been treated like a
> piece of shit,"
> Bernier said.
> Gilmour said the appointment of a new RCMP commissioner with the
> mandate to fix the problems in the force could prevent having to
> launch an inquiry or royal commission.
> In the meantime, he said, the reputation of the force is taking a beating.
> "That's really quite unfair to the members on the street who are
> performing such a valuable function and putting their lives at risk
> every day," said Gilmour. "They don't deserve that and it needs to be
> dealt with far sooner than later."
>
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