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The latest Bullshit about why Dairy is protected for financial and political reasons

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Friday, 18 September 2015

David Raymond Amos Versus The Crown T-1557-15

3.      Her Majesty the Queen’s servants the RCMP whose mandate is to serve and protect Canadian citizens and assist in the security of parliamentary properties and the protection of public officials should not deny a correspondence from a former Deputy Prime Minister who was appointed to be Canada’s first Minister of Public Safety in order to oversee the RCMP and their cohorts. The letter that helped to raise the ire of a fellow Canadian citizen who had never voted in his life to run for public office four times thus far is quoted as follows:
  “Mr. David R. Amos                                                               Jan 3rd, 2004

153Alvin Avenue

   Milton, MA U.S.A. 02186
                Dear Mr. Amos
      Thank you for your letter of November 19th, 2003, addressed to   
                my predecessor, the Honourble Wayne Easter, regarding your safety.  
                I apologize for the delay in responding.
      If you have any concerns about your personal safety, I can only
               suggest that you contact the police of local jurisdiction. In addition, any
               evidence of criminal activity should be brought to their attention since the
               police are in the best position to evaluate the information and take action
               as deemed appropriate.
       I trust that this information is satisfactory.
                                                              Yours sincerely
                                                                        A. Anne McLellan”

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-bloomberg-dairy-trump-1.4077625

Dairy protected 'for good reason,' Trudeau says; Trump calls Canada's actions a 'disgrace'



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Edward Carson  
Edward Carson
The often illegal, state-funded predatory practices of the US Dairy Industry are the only disgrace at work here.

Also, Canadian parents don't want milk filled with human growth hormones.



David Raymond Amos
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David Raymond Amos
@Edward Carson Methinks the Canadian Dairy Farmers need a consultant such as I who can easily deal with Trump and equally his mindless lawyers about this issue in particular however they won't talk to me because their greedy lobbyists and political pals would be embarrassed. Doubt me? Well just Google the following

David Amos nbmilk@nbmilk.org



David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@David Raymond Amos Methinks CBC a big faux pas to block that comment N'esy Pas?

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@David Raymond Amos President Trump and his lawyers etc may rest assured I will be talking to a lot a Canadian Farmers in short order. In fact I have already begun


Edward (E) Merij
Edward (E) Merij
'for good reason' simply means protecting Central Canada because that's where our dairy industry is concentrated. Just like the Auto Pact was set up to protect Southern Ontario's car industry. Nothing in Central Canada is there without some kind of government support or protection.

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Edward (E) Merij Methinks the folks in Fundy Royal who did not bother to vote for me would at least agree that dairy is THE big business down here now that potash went the way of the Dodo Bird.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/new-brunswick-trump-dairy-trade-1.4076390

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/potash-mine-sussex-reaction-1.3410316


Johny Ng
Johny Ng
@Edward Carson The only reason Justin wants to defend status quo it's because milk quotas were introduced by dada and the quotas are held by Quebec farmers 70%



David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Johny Ng Methinks that New Brunswick does not fit within the 70% assessment but I know the locals around here run with Quebec on this issue

I do agree that Quebec politics motivates Trudeau "The Younger" but it goes deeper than what his Fat Daddy did. Look how often he goes back on his own promises.

Everything is political and its always about the money.That stuff flows across all party lines and through all issues. If Trump's rhetoric causes the wealthy dairy farmers any hardship rest assured that Trudeau "The Younger" will compensate them handsomely with taxpayer's funds.

Remember how much dough Harper promised the dairy farmers if he and his liberal cohorts had managed to pull off TPP? Canadian taxpayers should at least tip our hat to Trump for stopping that malicious nonsense.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/tpp-new-brunswick-town-hall-concerns-1.3513670

"The trade deal would give TPP countries access to 3.25 per cent of Canada's annual dairy production. Reint-Jan Dykstra, a New Brunswick-based dairy farmer and vice-president of Dairy Farmers of Canada, said from his meetings with the federal government, he feels there would be fair compensation."


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@David Raymond Amos I will lay odds that a lot of politicians know why I chuckled as I listened to the all knowing MP Wayne Easter yapping on CBC about dairy farming.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/prince-edward-island/pei-dairy-policy-us-1.4079404


Canada is not the problem, says MP Wayne Easter over dairy trade with the U.S.

In terms of pulling out of NAFTA, Easter notes the U.S. has a lot invested in trade with Canada

By Terrence McEachern, CBC News Posted: Apr 21, 2017 12:08 PM AT 

MP Wayne Easter says the U.S. should look at its own policies and not blame Canada for its dairy problems.
MP Wayne Easter says the U.S. should look at its own policies and not blame Canada for its dairy problems. (Sean Kilpatrick/Canadian Press) 

Malpeque MP Wayne Easter has some advice for U.S. President Donald Trump over remarks claiming unfair dairy trade practices between Canada and the U.S. and the affects on the American dairy industry's revenue and jobs.

Canada is not the problem.


"Have a look at American dairy policy," said Easter, also co-chair of the Canada-United States Inter-Parliamentary Group, on CBC's Island Morning.

"The Americans … have overproduced in their country, and therein lies the problem. They need to look at a system that works. And, our [system] works for both farmers and consumers."

At a speech to factory workers in Wisconsin on Tuesday, Trump criticized Canadian dairy regulations and supply management system, calling trade between the two countries a "one-sided deal" that doesn't allow U.S. farmers to compete fairly. He also criticized recent pricing changes for dairy ingredients in Canada for making U.S. imports less competitive and costing Americans revenue and jobs.

In terms of dairy, Easter said that Canada imports 10 per cent of products while the U.S. only allows three per cent. Those remarks about dairy trade as well as softwood lumber have raised concerns about the future of trade between the two countries and the North American Free Trade Agreement.

But Easter noted that the U.S. has a lot invested in trade with Canada.

"There's nine million American jobs as a result of the Canadian trade. The efficiencies of the supply chain between Canada, United States and North America make us great competitors with the rest of the world. So you've got to factor in all those other things," he said

"It just can't be your way or the highway, and I think that is what President Trump is beginning to find out. The reality on the ground in terms of the political atmosphere that he deals in with Congress and Senate and the reality of trade agreements as they exist."
With files from Island Morning

Dairy protected 'for good reason,' Trudeau says; Trump calls Canada's actions a 'disgrace'

'Let's not pretend that we're in a global free market when it comes to agriculture,' PM tells Bloomberg News

By Janyce McGregor, CBC News Posted: Apr 20, 2017 1:44 PM ET

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has met U.S. President Donald Trump's pointed criticism of Canada's dairy industry with calm counterarguments in defence of how Canada prefers to manage its milk.

"Let's not pretend that we're in a global free market when it comes to agriculture," he told Bloomberg News editor in chief John Micklethwait during a question and answer session in Toronto Thursday.

"Every country protects for good reason its agricultural industries. We have a supply management system that works very well here in Canada. The Americans and other countries choose to subsidize to the tunes of hundreds of millions of dollars, if not billions of dollars, their agriculture industries, including their dairy," the prime minister said.


"Different countries have different approaches, and we're going to engage in a thoughtful, fact-based conversation on how to move forward in a way that both protects our consumers and our agricultural producers," he said.

Trudeau's comments were, in the words of his interviewer, his first chance to react to the "constructive dialogue" started by Trump Tuesday, when he used a speech in Wisconsin to attack the unfairness of recent pricing changes for dairy ingredients in Canada that make American imports less competitive.

The "terrible" plight of American dairy farmers has captured the attention of U.S. politicians of all stripes as the U.S. sector grapples with the twin difficulties of overproduction and low global prices for milk.

"How certain governors are speaking to certain constituencies on that, it's politics," Trudeau said. "At the same time, the U.S. has a $400-million dairy surplus with Canada. So it's not Canada that is the challenge here."

Broadens attack to include lumber


Trump's jabs at Canada continued Thursday as the media was invited to watch him sign another memorandum on trade in the Oval Office.

"I wasn't going to do this," he told reporters as he changed topics away from the foreign steel investigation he was meant to be discussing.

"Canada ... what they've done to our dairy farm workers is a disgrace. It's a disgrace," he said. "Rules, regulations, different things have changed, and our farmers in Wisconsin and New York state are being put out of business."

But Trump didn't stop there, also raising "what's happening along our northern border states with Canada, having to do with lumber and timber."

The U.S. president's remarks come ahead of a U.S. Department of Commerce decision expected early next week on levying countervailing duties against Canadian softwood lumber imports.

Last week, a NAFTA review panel ruled mostly against the U.S. in a separate case over duties against Canadian mills producing glossy paper for things like magazines and catalogues.

"NAFTA, whether it's Mexico or Canada, is a disaster for our country. It's a disaster. It's a trading disaster," he said, saying his office would be "reporting back sometime over the next two weeks" on what it's going to do about the North American Free Trade Agreement.

Trump continues to promise his supporters that he will renegotiate a better deal.

"We can't let Canada or anybody else take advantage and do what they did to our workers and to our farmers," he said.

Canada more open than U.S.: Freeland


In fact, the two issues Trump raised Thursday — Canada's supply management system for dairy production and the longstanding debate over the way Canada manages its softwood lumber supply — were not part of the original NAFTA.

It's unclear whether they will be included in the scope of the renegotiations.

Talks won't begin until after a mandatory 90-day consultation period with the U.S. Congress.

Trump's nominee for the cabinet position of trade representative has not yet been confirmed.

"Every day is a new and interesting day," Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland said when asked about the Canada-U.S. relationship at an event in Toronto.

But she said she still feels confident about the relationship they've been developing, noting there have been more than  180 meetings between players in the Trump administration and Canadian officials since the new U.S. government took office in January.

"Our dairy market is in fact more open to imports than the U.S. market is," the minister said. "On dairy ... we are fully compliant with all our NAFTA and WTO commitments.

"It's the job of politicians to respond to the unhappiness of some of their constituents, but on dairy we are very comfortable with our position and I think that trade lawyers will agree with us."



http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/trump-usa-canada-dairy-battle-1.4075508


What's Trump's problem with Canada's milk?

Dairy production system designed to manage supply and demand, but critics say it violates trade commitments

CBC News Posted: Apr 19, 2017 4:47 PM ET 

Ottawa farmer Peter Ruiter says U.S. President Donald Trump is simply looking for someone to blame — Canada — for the woes of U.S. dairy farmers.
Ottawa farmer Peter Ruiter says U.S. President Donald Trump is simply looking for someone to blame — Canada — for the woes of U.S. dairy farmers. (CBC News) 

U.S President Donald Trump's speech railing against NAFTA on Tuesday specifically targeted Canada's dairy production system. But it's far from the first time Canadian milk has drawn American ire. What's this system that everyone keeps getting so upset about?

It's called supply management 


Canada has used a supply management system to control dairy production since the early 1970s. Essentially, the amount of milk and dairy products produced by farmers across the country is regulated by quotas meant to ensure the national supply matches the expected demand as closely as possible.

The Canadian Dairy Commission, which works with the provincial milk marketing boards to co-ordinate quotas and pricing, says the system helps to avoid surpluses as well as shortages.

In addition, Canada's producers recently got together and lowered their prices for dairy ingredients to make them more competitive against the cheaper American imports. 

Why does the U.S. care so much about it?


The U.S. dairy industry has complained that the ultra-filtered milk policy, as well as Canada's dairy supply management controls as a whole, are contrary to free-market principles and don't let U.S. farmers compete fairly.

In January, U.S. dairy and agricultural associations wrote to Trump asking him to take action against Canada's dairy practices, saying they were "resulting in lost revenues and jobs for dairy farmers and processors across the United States." They also accused Canada of violating its global trade obligations.

Canada in Trump's 'Buy American' crosshairs1:24

In a fiery speech to factory workers in Wisconsin on Tuesday, Trump vowed to "stand up for our dairy farmers" in the state. The president also called Canada's dairy system a "one-sided deal," saying the North American Free Trade Agreement rules between Canada and the U.S. were "a complete and total disaster" overall.

What's Canada's response to the criticism?


David MacNaughton, Canada's ambassador to the U.S., rejects the accusations.

"Canada does not accept the contention that Canada's dairy policies are the cause of financial loss for dairy farmers in the United States," MacNaughton wrote in a letter to the governors of Wisconsin and New York that was released Tuesday night, after Trump's criticism.

"The facts do not bear this out."


Earlier this month, Isabelle Bouchard, spokesperson for the Dairy Farmers of Canada, said Canada was being used as "a scapegoat" for the financial woes facing dairy farmers in the U.S.

In response to Trump's comments on Tuesday, Bouchard said her organization was "confident the Canadian government will continue to defend the Canadian dairy industry."

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Canada's ambassador to the U.S., David MacNaughton, says that problems with the American dairy industry are due to overproduction, not Canada's supply management system. (Graham Hughes/Canadian Press)

Supply management does have critics within Canada who believe it's not only a problem in international trade negotiations but also results in higher costs for consumers and the food industry in general.

But the only Canadian politician who's actively opposed the marketing board system is Conservative leadership candidate Maxime Bernier, contradicting not only his party's most recent policy vote but also his past statements as a cabinet minister.


After Tuesday's remarks by the U.S. president, Bernier wrote Trump an open letter saying he "stole one of my best lines" about the unfairness of Canada's system, which Bernier characterized as a "cartel" and a "production racket."

Bernier encouraged Trump to continue to push the Canadian government to open its agricultural markets. But he also pointed out that the U.S. is being protectionist on other fronts.

"You're known as a tough negotiator, Mr. President," he wrote. "But the best way to negotiate in the best interest of your own people would be to do the same thing with your softwood lumber market, not to succumb to protectionist nonsense. Deal?"

With files from Janyce McGregor and The Canadian Press




Canada is not the problem, says MP Wayne Easter over dairy trade with the U.S.

In terms of pulling out of NAFTA, Easter notes the U.S. has a lot invested in trade with Canada

By Terrence McEachern, CBC News Posted: Apr 21, 2017 12:08 PM AT 

MP Wayne Easter says the U.S. should look at its own policies and not blame Canada for its dairy problems.
MP Wayne Easter says the U.S. should look at its own policies and not blame Canada for its dairy problems. (Sean Kilpatrick/Canadian Press)

Malpeque MP Wayne Easter has some advice for U.S. President Donald Trump over remarks claiming unfair dairy trade practices between Canada and the U.S. and the affects on the American dairy industry's revenue and jobs.

Canada is not the problem.


"Have a look at American dairy policy," said Easter, also co-chair of the Canada-United States Inter-Parliamentary Group, on CBC's Island Morning.

"The Americans … have overproduced in their country, and therein lies the problem. They need to look at a system that works. And, our [system] works for both farmers and consumers."


At a speech to factory workers in Wisconsin on Tuesday, Trump criticized Canadian dairy regulations and supply management system, calling trade between the two countries a "one-sided deal" that doesn't allow U.S. farmers to compete fairly. He also criticized recent pricing changes for dairy ingredients in Canada for making U.S. imports less competitive and costing Americans revenue and jobs.


In terms of dairy, Easter said that Canada imports 10 per cent of products while the U.S. only allows three per cent. Those remarks about dairy trade as well as softwood lumber have raised concerns about the future of trade between the two countries and the North American Free Trade Agreement.


But Easter noted that the U.S. has a lot invested in trade with Canada.

"There's nine million American jobs as a result of the Canadian trade. The efficiencies of the supply chain between Canada, United States and North America make us great competitors with the rest of the world. So you've got to factor in all those other things," he said

"It just can't be your way or the highway, and I think that is what President Trump is beginning to find out. The reality on the ground in terms of the political atmosphere that he deals in with Congress and Senate and the reality of trade agreements as they exist."


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/tpp-new-brunswick-town-hall-concerns-1.3513670


Trans-Pacific Partnership concerns voiced at UNB town hall

Parliamentary secretary to the trade minister says response to TPP deal is vastly different across Canada

By Julianne Hazlewood, CBC News Posted: Mar 31, 2016 7:04 AM AT

David Lametti, the parliamentary secretary for international trade, says the government isn't for or against the TPP trade deal.
David Lametti, the parliamentary secretary for international trade, says the government isn't for or against the TPP trade deal. (CBC)

As a town hall on the Trans-Pacific Partnership wrapped up at the University of New Brunswick on Wednesday afternoon, an audience member asked the crowd to give a show of hands on who wants the trade deal ratified and who doesn't.

In the crowd of about 70 people, the majority raised their hand against the deal, a free trade pact between Canada and 11 other countries, including the United States, Australia and Japan.

Liberal MP David Lametti, the parliamentary secretary for international trade, travelled to the province for the town hall. It's part of the federal government's cross-Canada consultations on the TPP.

Lametti said the reception to the deal is vastly different from one end of the country to the other.

"If I did this in Regina, virtually everybody in this room would be for the agreement. So there are people for it, there are people against it," said Lametti.

UNB TPP town hall
The majority of the people at the town hall raised their hand against the TPP deal when asked for an impromptu vote by a member of the audience. (CBC)

"We're trying to listen to everybody."

Alex Bailey, president of the Fredericton District Labour Council, raised his hand against the deal.
He said he worries the massive free trade zone would force companies to cut jobs and the dairy industry would be "regulated out of existance."

"I do not see this deal in the interest of Canadian workers," said Bailey.

Signed but not ratified


The federal government signed the TPP deal in February, at which point it entered into a two-year ratification period.

Alex Bailey
Alex Bailey, president of the Fredericton District Labour Council, says the TPP should be abandoned because it would lead to job losses for Canadians. (CBC)

Lametti made it clear the government isn't for or against the deal.

"We've definitely not taken a position on the TPP," said Lametti.

"It might create economic opportunities for a large number of businesses and therefore create a large number of jobs ... It might create challenges for other sectors that would be negatively affected by the trade agreement."

Sally McGrath, a UNB PhD student in classics and anthropology, said the dangers of the deal outweigh any benefits.

"Food safety is my biggest concern," said McGrath.

"The food is going to be coming from countries that do not grow food or do not produce animal foods under the same conditions we do."

Referendum on TPP?


As Lemetti was speaking, an audience member yelled out that there should be a referendum on the TPP.
Lametti said he was open to the idea.
'It's fear of the unknown' - Karen Ludwig, MP for New Brunswick Southwest
"Sometimes referendums are a useful way to poll Canadians ... but at this stage I don't think we need that in order to make a decision on this," he said.

New Brunswick Southwest Liberal MP Karen Ludwig, who is a member of the House of Commons's international trade committee, said there's suspicion around the deal because it was negotiated without transparency by the former government.

"It's fear of the unknown."

"I think we need to do a much better job of communicating the elements of the deal."

Ludwig will be travelling across Canada with the trade committee to hear from Canadians on the deal, starting with the Western provinces in April.

No commitment on dairy compensation


The Harper government promised a $4.3-billion compensation package to dairy farmers to counter any negative impacts of the TPP.

The Trudeau government has not committed a dollar amount on a compensation deal.

"We're going to first of a wait and see if we ratify the agreement," said Lametti.

"And if we do make a decision to ratify, then we will sit down with those groups."

The trade deal would give TPP countries access to 3.25 per cent of Canada's annual dairy production.
Reint-Jan Dykstra, a New Brunswick-based dairy farmer and vice-president of Dairy Farmers of Canada, said from his meetings with the federal government, he feels there would be fair compensation.

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