Tuesday 19 February 2019

TransCanada asks to use existing pipelines to ship gas east

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I have no doubt whatsoever that the NEB, the Irving Clan and all the other greasy gassy oily guys recall my intervention in the Emera Pipeline Project in 2006


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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/transcanada-corp-natural-gas-alberta-1.5021964



TransCanada asks to use existing pipelines to ship gas east




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David Amos
David Amos
I'm Back Surprise Surprise Surprise


Roger Richard
Roger Richard
@David Amos Me too.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

Where did you both go?


David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks you must have figured out that we were busy partying hardy over the resignation of your hero Gerald Butts N'esy Pas?

If not need I say we are still Happy Happy Happy?


David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks the SANB should check my work within the "Most Liked" threads before they all evaporate N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/gerald-butts-resigns-pmo-1.5023675


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

Methinks the Anglo Society should try harder to get more fans...You currently have 3 followers... :)

 
David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks you know as well as I that the PANB and the Anglo Society don't like the Chief of the Amos Clan and that mon ami Roger Richard is a Very Proud Acadian who ran against your beloved former President of the SANB in the last election N'esy Pas?


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

*Chief of the Amos Clan*

Is that another anti-French clan ?

Al Bekirkey
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Al Bekirkey
@Marc Martin such a vapid response

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks I know libel when I read it and so do you N'esy Pas?


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

You should stop libel me then N'esy Pas?


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

You should stop libel me then N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks the real "Marc Martin" would have to place charges against me with the RCMP and then wait and see if the Crwon would be willing to prosecute me under Section 300 of the Criminal Code. In the "Mean" I can sue the governments two dudes named Marc Martin work for in Federal Court in Fredericton N'esy Pas?


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

You can sue all you want buddy, make sure you have the right Marc Martin tough and after all the libel and harassment you have put the 2 others trough I am pretty sure you are heading for a brick wall.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks if you had bothered to read my lawsuit that you were promoting last month then you or your lawyer would have understand that I sued the Crown you work for not individuals (Not yet anyway) N'esy Pas?


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

*you are just another overpaid bureaucratic snob from Quebec N'esy Pas?*

Libel ? again Davis ?

*if you had bothered to read my lawsuit that you were promoting last month*

I think your mixed up, you were promoting your own lawsuit...

*last month then you or your lawyer *

Again Libel....You are associatin me with divers individual Davis...

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Who is Davis?


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

you know who you are Davis..









David Amos
David Amos
I have no doubt whatsoever that the NEB, Trans Canada, Enbridge, the Irving Clan and all the other greasy gassy oily guys recall my intervention in the Emera Pipeline Project in 2006 while I ran against Ed Doherty in Saint John Harbour. Methinks PUBLIC Records cannot be easily denied N'esy Pas?








Roger Richard
Marc Martin
They want the USA market the maritimes are worthless to them, let see how the CoRservative leader handles this.


David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin They sold to the Yankees for decades My home in Beantown is the irrefutable proof of that simple fact.

Methinks you SANB dudes need to do your homework before you spout off N'esy Pas?


Paul Bourgoin
Paul Bourgoin
@Marc Martin
Like he was instructed to do.

David Amos
David Amos
@Paul Bourgoin YUP

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

Methinks you Anglo Society dudes need to do your own homework before you spout off N'esy Pas? Energy East is not currently in NB.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks Emera certainly is N'esy Pas?

James Reed
James Reed
@Marc Martin

This is before the National Energy Board


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@James Reed

The province will still have a say if they accept it or not.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin "Methinks you Anglo Society dudes need to do your own homework before you spout off N'esy Pas?"

Methinks Mr Higgs and everybody else but the SANB sheople know that my ancestors were Celtic NOT Anglos N'esy Pas?


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

*Methinks Mr Higgs and everybody else but the SANB sheople know that my ancestors were Celtic NOT Anglos N'esy Pas?*

But the only way the Anglo Society is if your anti-French and English, you fit both part.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Naw Methinks everybody knows it is the SANB weasels I can't stand FYI I love French ladies no matter where they hail from and I have lots of Acadian friends quite likely far more than you do because I was born and raised on the Bay Of Fundy and you are just another overpaid bureaucratic snob from Quebec N'esy Pas?


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

*overpaid bureaucratic snob from Quebec 8

Libel again Davis ?











 Harold Benson
Harold Benson
Enbridge has been a disaster for NBers. They don't need to have any more slack cut after promising cheap energy. Fool me once......


David Amos
David Amos
@Harold Benson Methinks Sam was fooled as well N'esy Pas?

Marc Martin
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Marc Martin
@Harold Benson

Exactly but the thing is your idol the CoRservative leader and the purple leader are both for gas...


Harold Benson
Harold Benson
@Marc Martin He ain't my idol I'll guarantee you that. Never voted for any old boys party in my life.


Barb Flewwelling
Barb Flewwelling
@Harold Benson
Oil from Alberta. Better price than NS. No guff.



David Amos
David Amos
@Harold Benson "He ain't my idol I'll guarantee you that"

and POOF the SANB minion was gone N'esy Pas?



Harold Benson
Harold Benson
@David Amos who?

David Amos
David Amos
@Harold Benson Martin


David Amos
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David Amos
@Harold Benson Sam us have told you that I save everything

The SANB dude's were as follows:

"Exactly but the thing is your idol the CoRservative leader and the purple leader are both for gas..".











Marc Martin
Paul Bourgoin
Where, who and how will Joe Public benefit from such a Deal?


David Amos
David Amos
@Paul Bourgoin Perhaps lower gas prices as promised but I doubt it

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Paul Bourgoin

They wont, this is a sale opportunity to get to sell their gas to this part of the USA.


Sakira Cadman
Sakira Cadman
@Marc Martin Everyone knows competing companies for a market share is bad for the consumer. It is always best to have only one company set the price and not have any competition.

David Amos
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David Amos
@Marc Martin "They wont, this is a sale opportunity to get to sell their gas to this part of the USA."

Methinks you should explain your opinion to the Trans Canada dudes I am certain that they could always use a good laugh after all the Energy East nonsense N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos
@Sakira Cadman Methinks either you jest too much or you are an NB Power boss N'esy Pas?










Marc Martin 
Roger Richard
In recent years, I defended my home against shale gas, fluoridated water and smart meters. Guess what? They are all coming back!


David Amos
David Amos
@Roger Richard Methinks what comes around goes around and around and around like a merry go round until the "Powers That Be" who oversee the circus Get what they want N'esy Pas Mon Ami?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Roger Richard

Some other things keep coming back also....


Bob Barino
Bob Barino
@Roger Richard
The other choice is go where there is no carbon tax. Carbon and every else is released.
Where there is also no shale gas, no fluoridated water, no smart meters and no carbon tax. As well as no infrastructure; civil or social.
We all have choices. We don't have the right to make those choices for others.

Fred Dee
Fred Dee
@Roger Richard

An they should!!! The decisions that are being made are wrong!!

We need fl in the water, true science shows that it is safe!! BS science is just that BS!!

Shale gas,, we need clean energy, we have the gas, lets use it!! Been doing so in NB for years!!!

sadly the LOUD ill informed have been doing well with the politicians!!

Barb Flewwelling
Barb Flewwelling
@Roger Richard
Man the ramparts. Bon chance.


David Amos
David Amos
@Bob Barino "We don't have the right to make those choices for others."

Mr Higgs does and WE elected him

David Amos
David Amos
@Fred Dee Roger does not BS anyone. Methinks I would have to see you put your name on a ballot or intervene in EUB Hearings or argue me in court before I let you off the hook for attacking my friend N'esy Pas?



Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

*Mr Higgs does and WE elected him*

I am glad you finally admit voting CoRservative.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks it would be obvious that I voted for myself. However I am part of the electorate that put Higgs in the Premiers office for awhile. Seems that Quebecois such as yourself don't understand such things N'esy Pas?



Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

Libel again ?

David Amos
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David Amos
@Marc Martin It is not libel when it is true












Marc Martin 
Marc Bourque
Cheap and energy dont mix,we all know that! So dont use that line to build a pipeline and yes we need one for the economy but dont ever say we will benefit directly from this...


David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Bourque Methinks the pipelines that already exist are what they intend to use all they need is the EUB and the NEB blessings along with that of the US State Department and perhaps Trump won't agree with their scheme N'esy Pas?


Bob Barino
Bob Barino
@Marc Bourque
You actually mean oil flowing don't you????

maude windsor
maude windsor
@Marc Bourque just go to how many $$ you spent this winter to heat your home with furnace oil.....then realize that if your heated with natural gas that cost would be less than 10% costs.

David Amos
David Amos
@maude windsor Dream on









Marc Martin
Craig O'Donnell
Don't worry; the NIMBY sheeples and the protesters, same old faces (likely with a little financial help from obscure groups in the US), will be doing everything in its power to prevent anything that might benefit the province.


David Amos
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David Amos
@Craig O'Donnell True However not all of us are NIMBY sheeples or political spindoctors

David Amos
David Amos
@Craig O'Donnell Hmmm









Marc Martin
Rick Munroe
Assuming that this pipeline will be designed using robust steel and FBE coating, etc there should be little reason to oppose this project.

I'm surprised that BC gas could be delivered more cheaply than US gas from the Marcellus but regardless of source the new transmission pipeline would be needed.


David Amos
David Amos
@Rick Munroe I agree


Peter Bota
Peter Bota
@Rick Munroe did you even read the article? It's an already existing pipeline. They just want to reverse the direction of flow

David Amos
David Amos
@Peter Bota They still have to bring it up the standards of today
 

Daniel Rawlins
Daniel Rawlins
@Rick Munroe
Did either of you actually read the story? Nat gas will be piped through existing lines leaving Canada at the Quebec border, run through the States the back in to Canada through the existing gas line in NB that carried NS offshore gas to the US for export, this line would merely change from export to import.
The biggest hurdle will be getting National Energy Board(NEB) approval.











Marc Martin   
Fred Dee
We need the gas... it is a gas pipeling... just changing direction!!!


David Amos
David Amos
@Fred Dee True









Barb Flewwelling  
Barb Flewwelling
Go for it!


David Amos
David Amos
@Barb Flewwelling I agree However methinks Algonquin Power and Utilities are crazy to want to do business with the Irving Clan especially after their dealings with Repsol The public record easily proves that Mr Higgs and his minions in the EUB know that I don't care what Peter Hyslop thinks about anything N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/irving-oil-repsol-tax-court-documents-1.3214304











Marc Martin  
Marc Martin
*Stefan Baranski, TransCanada’s director of commercial markets in Eastern Canada, says the plan may mean savings for New Brunswickers. (CBC )*

MAY MEAN SAVINGS...all they want is the USA market.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Nope The Irving Clan wants the gas

Daniel Rawlins
Daniel Rawlins
@Marc Martin
Hate to burst your bubble my friend but the US has had access to Canadian natural gas for decades it is Atlantic Canada that has had no access to western Canadian natural gas or oil by pipeline.

Matt Steele
Matt Steele
@Daniel Rawlins ......Very true ; it is good to see someone commenting who ACTUALLY knows the facts , and not someone who just makes things up because they don't know anything about the situation .


David Amos
David Amos
@Daniel Rawlins You are correct I lived in Beantown for decades and used it to to my kids warm fed and dry


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Daniel Rawlins

Your not bursting any bubbles buddy, natural wont be sold here cheap all they want is to have access to sell it to the USA from the maritimes, by the way the Americains close to the Atlantic don't have access to any gaz line from the maritimes.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Matt Steele

Tell me genius where does TransCanada corps gaz lines pass to the Atlantic USA ????

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

TransCanada does not bring you gaz.

David Amos
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David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks you must reek of methane with all the BS you spew all day long N'eay Pas?



David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin You do



Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

That's not gas its because you have your nose too close to your mouth.

David Amos
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David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks I am wise enough to talk out of my mouth instead of the other end like you do N'esy Pas?

David Amos
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David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks that must be why you reek of methane N'esy Pas?











Marc Martin  
Roy Kirk
Note that this proposal, if it comes to fruition, is mutually exclusive of the EnergyEast project. It uses the line that was to be converted for dilbit transport under the EE plan. We might have gas from TCP's pipeline, or we might have had dilbit by their pipeline, but we can't have both, absent a truly massive capital project.


David Amos
David Amos
@Roy Kirk Mais Oui









Marc Martin  
Sakira Cadman
Such evil! Shut the pipeline down now! We should be buying 100% of our natural gas from safe american sources instead of shipping it across our country.


Sam Brown
Sam Brown
@Sakira Cadman

Very well said......

Good day

David Amos
David Amos
@Sakira Cadman I Wholeheartedly DISAGREE



Logos 2
Logos 2
@Sakira Cadman Humour ... I recognize it.











Matt Steele 
Matt Steele
Same old problem with Quebec trying to block anything that may help N.B. ; the Federal Govt. should open up the Constitution , and include an energy corridor across Canada as part of the Constitution . Quebec uses the SANB to try and control N.B. , and prevent N.B. from getting ahead . The SANB in turn uses the N.B. Liberal Party to stop N.B. from prospering . Once a pipeline hits the Quebec border , it SHOULD NOT have to veer into the U.S. in order to supply the Atlantic Provinces . Something needs to CHANGE !


Stephen Long
Stephen Long
@Matt Steele I wonder if the refusal of Quebec to allow the oil pipeline has anything to do with the million dollar contracts SNC-Lavelin has with the Saudi's?


David Amos
David Amos
@Stephen Long Nope



Eric Plexe
Eric Plexe
@Matt Steele - Actually, as per the article - “the natural gas would move on TransCanada's Canadian mainline as far as Quebec, then cross the border to travel through U.S. lines in New England. It would then travel back into Canada via the Maritimes and Northeast Pipeline that links this region to the United States.”









Al Bekirkey
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Al Bekirkey
it does make tremendous sense our current supply is running out we dont want to risk our water with todays technology to get our own and the pipes are their keep em full


David Amos
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David Amos
@Al Bekirkey YUP









SarahRose Werner
SarahRose Werner
Using the existing pipeline makes a good deal of sense. I'd like to hear more about the amount of construction involved in building the pumping stations and the environmental impacts of building the pumping stations and operating them and the pipeline. The maps shows only one of the new pumping stations as being in Quebec - do other similar pumping stations already operate in Quebec west of St-Leonard?


SarahRose Werner
SarahRose Werner
@SarahRose Werner - Oops! The map I was looking at was for the abandoned Energy East project. (Why the heck did the CBC bother including it?) Does the proposed project require no new construction at all? If true, sweet!

David Amos
David Amos
@SarahRose Werner "Using the existing pipeline makes a good deal of sense"

Explain that to the SANB dude.










Golab Adi 
Golab Adi
As a Canadian you got my support for exporting either Oil or Gas or both. We should have access to global market and no province can block this access. The only thing is Quebec wants to develop its own oil and gas resources. So, they might be against this pipeline. The only solution is having a federal government capable of creating millions of jobs every year.


David Amos
David Amos
@Golab Good luck with that









SarahRose Werner 
Bart Roberts
When will dump-and-runners pay for cleaning up the fossil fume mess they make?

I'm not asking much: just a plan to return the fossil CO2e they put in the air through their customers back to the mineral form it started as.

It can be done mechanically for $380/tonne CO2. It's the right thing to do: everyone else cleans up their messes.

Speaking of everyone else, 197 countries are either reducing their planned CO2e emissions at least 70%, with a long term plan to cease emissions entirely, or holding steady with future plans to reduce, or reducing their emissions right now. Only Canada in the last five years has substantially increased emissions, up 65% from 1.6% of total global emissions to 2.6%, from 12th highest emitter to 8th highest, from 6th per capita to 3rd per capita. In just a decade we've gone from 1.3% of global emissions to 2.6% -- doubling in a decade, a record no other nation has ever held.

Canada is failing, because Canada lets fossil dine-and-dashers dump without paying.


David Amos
David Amos
@Bart Roberts What is your cut and paste point as it pertains to this article?









SarahRose Werner 
Lou Bell
As usual ,for the Greens , no big kick to not bring in outside product and not develop our own, you know , outta sight , outta mind !


David Amos
David Amos
@Lou Bell Yawn I read enough nonsense today time for bed





TransCanada asks to use existing pipelines to ship gas east

Enbridge, Irving support TransCanada's proposal, which awaits National Energy Board approval


TransCanada’s corporate head office at 450 1st St. SW in downtown Calgary. (David Bell/CBC)



The company that once hoped to ship Alberta crude oil to New Brunswick is now pitching itself as one of the province's best hopes for a stable, inexpensive supply of natural gas.

TransCanada Corp. is asking federal regulators for permission to sign new long-term supply contracts to ship gas from Western Canada through existing pipelines to eastern markets, including Atlantic Canada.

The two main natural gas retailers in New Brunswick, Enbridge Gas New Brunswick and Irving Oil, are supporting the application.








The western gas would provide them with a new source of supply to replace Nova Scotia's offshore gas, which shut down last year.


TransCanada proposed five pump stations for the Energy East pipeline in New Brunswick, including Saint-Léonard, Plaster Rock, Stanley, Cumberland Bay and Hampton. It has since abandoned the project. (CBC)
Enbridge general manager Gilles Volpé says if the plan is approved, "it gives access to more capacity, and more access to the Alberta-based natural gas. That natural gas is plentiful, of course, but it's also very stable from a price point of view."

It's possible the commodity price portion of residential natural gas bills could be reduced 30 to 40 percent, he said.

Not Energy East


In 2017, TransCanada abandoned plans to build the Energy East pipeline to carry heavy oil from Alberta to an export terminal in Saint John. The company cited new emissions standards in the regulatory review of the project.

With no pipeline link between the rest of Canada and the Maritimes, the natural gas would move on TransCanada's Canadian mainline as far as Quebec, then cross the border to travel through U.S. lines in New England.

It would then travel back into Canada via the Maritimes and Northeast Pipeline that links this region to the United States.


Stefan Baranski, TransCanada’s director of commercial markets in Eastern Canada, says the plan may mean savings for New Brunswickers. (CBC )
"Eastern Canadian markets will be served by western Canadian gas, which is pretty exciting from our perspective," said Stefan Baranski, TransCanada's director of commercial markets in Eastern Canada,
Volpé says TransCanada already ships some gas to Atlantic Canada on the route, but "this provides more capacity to bring more gas this way."

'Critical' application


TransCanada and interveners are now filing documents with the National Energy Board, which must approve the proposal. Enbridge's application to intervene says the plan is "critical" to its New Brunswick operations.

"EGNB does not have access to local supply, nor local natural gas storage facilities to meet its franchise needs at this time and considers [gas from the west] as a valuable asset in meeting the needs of Atlantic Canada long term."


Irving Oil is supporting TransCanada's bid to use existing pipelines to ship natural gas east. (CBC)
Enbridge has signed a 20.5-year contract for the gas starting in 2021.


Irving Oil's contract would start Nov. 1 of this year. The company says in its filing it is "strongly supportive" of the plan and getting the new supply in place this fall is "extremely important to Irving Oil in meeting its needs for secure and reliable natural gas supplies for its operations in Atlantic Canada."
Enbridge says in its filing that New England and Atlantic Canada have the highest natural gas prices and are the most volatile market for gas.

"By having access to long-term supply with generally low volatility, EGNB is better able to provide valued service to our franchise area and provide an economical energy source which helps reduce the carbon footprint of this region in Canada," the filing says.


Enbridge New Brunswick general manager Gilles Volpé says he supports TransCanada's proposal to supply New Brunswick with western gas. (Radio-Canada)
TransCanada's Energy East proposal would have seen the company convert one of its existing natural gas lines from the Alberta-Saskatchewan border to near the Ontario-Quebec border, then build a new line the rest of the way to Saint John.

One of TransCanada's motives for Energy East was that its cross-Canada gas lines were losing money because they were operating below full capacity.

Ironically, the proposed long-term gas contracts would fill some of the unused space that would have been turned over to Energy East.


The right-of-way of TransCanada's Canadian mainline in North Bay, Ontario. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)
Baranski said the excess capacity allowed TransCanada to offer Atlantic Canadian distributors a discounted price that is competitive with closer supplies of gas in the U.S.

Enbridge says more stable pricing would also allow it to attract more customers — a prospect that has proven a challenge for the company since it began gas operations 20 years ago.

Last year, Calgary-based Enbridge announced it was selling its New Brunswick operations to Algonquin Power and Utilities, but the sale is still going through its own regulatory process.

In its filings with the National Energy Board, TransCanada says 17 companies have signed contracts ranging from 10 to 20½ years.

It is hoping for the board's approval by late summer.

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