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David Raymond Amos‏ @DavidRayAmos

Replying to @DavidRayAmos @Kathryn98967631 and 49 others

Methinks if you knew what I know you would sing a different tune Lets just say anyone can surf the net using certain names and mine as well N'esy Pas?


https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/02/trudeau-under-fire-over-claim-he.html

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-snc-lavalin-fraud-corruption-1.5009578

Trudeau under fire over claim he pressured justice minister to intervene in SNC-Lavalin fraud case

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David Amos
Trust that Mr Scheer and everyone else who sits in opposition know that Jody Wilson-Raybould may have lost her mandate as Justice Minister because of her failings in Federal Court and the Federal Court of Appeal within my lawsuit against the Crown that was filed when Harper was the Prime Minister and Mr Scheer was the Speaker.

Everybody knows I about to put that matter before the Supreme Court of Canada and file several more lawsuits against the RCMP and the CRA etc and also run for a seat in Parliament again.

Methinks truth is stranger than fiction and anyone can easily Google "David Amos Federal Court file No." in order to sort out the truth from fiction for themselves. Its blatantly obvious that Mr Trudeau should have paid particular attention to statement 83 of my lawsuit long before he was elected in October of 2015 N'esy Pas?







Fletch Peterson

If the rcmp do not investigate, Canada’s constitution has been used to wipe Justin’s behind..

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David Amos
@Fletch Peterson True but methinks Mary Ellen Turpel-Lafond is just talking the talk N'esy Pas?


https://www.cbc.ca/news/indigenous/snc-lavalin-pmo-pressure-wilson-raybould-1.5010009








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Irv Millar

The straws are being grasped. A mountain and the mole hill. The only way the Conservatives know how to govern. In blame, but no self-blame. There's mirrors for that eh?

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Frank G. Castiglione

@Irv Millar the boy wonders swan song.

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steve curtis

@Irv Millar
Just wake up?

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Max Ruger

@Irv Millar Are you insane ? This has nothing to do with the Conservatives. They didn't break the story, the Globe and Mail did. How can you defend this ?

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William Martin

@Irv Millar Yes trying to alter an ongoing investigation is making a mountain out of a mole hill. SMH.

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Irv Millar

@steve curtis Nope. I have memories of a former PM that sold out a national legacy, CN, then moved onto the nation, NAFTA. You remember what party this was/is do you not?

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steve curtis

@Irv Millar
J T and his daddy, from what I remember. You a banker? "cause you sure love the sell out.

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Irv Millar

@Max Ruger The Conservatives and SNC Lavalin have a storied past. Read the Globe and Mail articles on this latest Conservative stab/grab for election traction. Then do a little research into the likes of Dr. Porter and the whole cabal that fleeced the nation. Then you'll have a better perspective.

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Felix Culpa

@Irv Millar
Sure. Chrétien sold CN in 1995. I think he was a Liberal. Mulroney signed NAFTA, a good deal for Canada, but somewhat diminished thanks to Trump and the current PM.

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Irv Millar

@steve curtis Did you read the Globe and Mail articles?

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Irv Millar

@Felix Culpa Wrong. Read a little more then get back to us.

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Daryl McBride

@Irv Millar 166 votes in 19 minutes, is that a record?

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Bert Law

@Daryl McBride

actually it only took 15 seconds.

i was watching

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Daryl McBride

@Bert Law same thing happened with the Khadr story.

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Jamie Gillis

@Irv Millar

Nice hack of the system.

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Bert Law

@Daryl McBride

I suggest report it to the ombudsman here.

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Donald Patrick

@Jamie Gillis Sickening isn't it? So bloody blatant.

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Bert Law

@Jamie Gillis

yup. first comment. 170 up votes.

second only 12 .... obviously hacked

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Rick Meyer

@Jamie Gillis

Everyone needs to flag the fake top calm mints

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david kirby

@Bert Law
That will do no good at all. I tried it once

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William Martin

@Irv Millar Here is another post where the votes were rigged.

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Daryl McBride

@William Martin I took a video of the manipulation, who to send it to?

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Ron Brady

@Daryl McBride YouTube it.

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Phil Mein

@Irv Millar No need to grasp at straws, like his stay on the private island he "didn't see any ethical breach" with until it was explained what the definition is. Justin already has a LONG list of transgressions he needs to explain to Canadians, no doubt you'll all be here frothing at the mouth trying to defend his shortcomings, , which is great , because HERE at the CBC you're all preaching to the Liberal choir , meaning you're all just having ZERO influence on anybody outside of your shallow pool of cheerleaders. October is gonna e great !

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Al Kennedy

@Irv Millar
You are wrong. Chretien sold CNR in 1995. Then Chretien sold the Port of Churchill , which includes the grain elevator and the Churchill Fuel Terminal, to OmniTRAX in 1997. OmniTRAX owns the Hudson Bay Railroad and the rail line that runs from The Pas to Churchill. And Chretien got elected in his promise to "tear up that NAFTA" and get rid of the GST.

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Al Kennedy

@Irv Millar
And I forgot to mention that the company that Chretien sold the port to is an American company.

David Amos

@Irv Millar Methinks if you knew what I know you would sing a different tune Lets just say anyone can surf the net using certain names and mine as well N'esy Pas?

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Jenna Collins

@Irv Millar
How in the world did this comment make it to the most liked? I've been ban-ned from this site for commenting off topic and yet here you are.

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Shawn Wylie

The accused has a right to question the accuser who is conveniently an anonymous source, until actual evidence is put forward this is a non starter.

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Steve Sax

@Shawn Wylie

Ya. All those anonymous sources that have attacked Trump. But that’s okay as long it suits your narrative

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William Martin

@Shawn Wylie Would you be so generous with a different government?

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Shawn Wylie

@Steve Sax Ah one of the sheep can talk.

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Shawn Wylie

@William Martin I would be the same with any government, I don't hold any party affiliation as any smart voter would do, you go by the facts that are presented and so far non have been presented.

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Ron Brady

@Shawn Wylie Would you rather talk about MP Grewal?

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Shawn Wylie

@Ron Brady ?

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Robert Tyre

@Shawn Wylie seems though we never get to the "evidence". Things get buried, sealed, people get leaned on, orders come down, and voila, house (mansion) arrest and a tax deductible fine equal to pocket change.

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Shawn Wylie

@Steve Sax If your a fan of Trump you are a sheep, he's been a con man all his life and has ripped of people to get his small fortune, his famous line is sue me, same line he used for running a fake charity and his family using it as their piggy bank, have a nice life.

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Al Kennedy

@Shawn Wylie
What about asking the person at the center of this? Oh yes they did, and she would neither confirm or deny it.
hmmm?

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Shawn Wylie

@Robert Tyre Be patient, get the facts before making decisions, if there is anything to it it will come out. We're leading up to the elections and unfortunately the Reform/PC's of late have been well known for starting false rumours and news.

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Shawn Wylie

@Al Kennedy So what's your point, or are you just going to automatically make a judgement based on nothing?

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Shawn Wylie

@Ron Brady Good deflection.

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Al Kennedy

@Shawn Wylie
Well if the allegations were false, why wouldn't she say that?

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Ron Brady

@Shawn Wylie lol ... what ???

 

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Jenna Collins

@Shawn Wylie
Someone here on this site has given you a lot of likes for this comment. The like/dislike manipulation is back.

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David Amos

@Shawn Wylie Methinks a few fancy people have been much embarrassed by anonymous sources over the years However I am not anonymous and did in fact sue the Crown N'esy Pas?

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Dan Flanagan

"However, Trudeau's denial did little to satisfy the opposition Conservatives and New Democrats. The allegations, made by unnamed sources to the Globe and Mail, dominated Thursday's question period."

What a shock!

Scheer desperately trying to get people to remember his name and, well, the NDP are the NDP

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Chuck Darwin

@Dan Flanagan
Drowning man, grasping for a rope

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Dan Flanagan

@Chuck Darwin Proof?

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Chuck Darwin

@Dan Flanagan

To quote a liberal

The proof is the proof

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Edward Mann

@Dan Flanagan
Waiting for the proof... It will come

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Jim Gurtle

@Dan Flanagan elections are usually more about voting against someone. From that perspective, I’d say Justin should get his luggage ready

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Rick Meyer

@Dan Flanagan

I see the upvotes have been hacked
 

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William Martin

@Dan Flanagan Why on earth do you have 150 upvotes?

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Byron Whitford

@William Martin

Vote manipulation. 150 upvotes and 150 downvotes all at once on certain comments to manipulate the forum.

 

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David Amos

@Byron Whitford Welcome to the Circus

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Jenna Collins

@Byron Whitford
Someone is manipulating comments.

 
Daryl McBride

I will believe the Globe and Mail instead of the first Pm ever to break ethics law, 4 of them to boot.

Troy Mann

@Daryl McBride

Wow, you of all people dont believe the PM even though no shred of evidence is supplied. Wild stuff, let us know when you actually believed our PM?

You supported Harper contempt of parliament so dont give us the ethics baloney.

Hermann Mattfield

@Troy Mann ...awwww!!! Troy you got our PM's back...lol

Jamie Gillis

@Troy Mann

Troy, for the allegations to be false, "well-connected Liberals, "Liberal insiders," and "SNC Lavalin sources" had to conspire together to create a hoax. Think about this one.

Neil Turv

@Troy Mann

The point is that no matter who is in power you will find evidence of nepotism, corruption, etc. etc.

Harper was found in Contempt, a few of his senators misused public funds, robocalls.
Trudeau was found guilty of ethics violations, and outside of the SNC the Liberals have several other questionable financial deals that have been or are under scrutiny.
Chretien had the sponsorship scandal, HRDC scandal, allegations of covering up the Canadian peacekeepers abuse in Somalia
Mulroney has serious evidence against him regarding bribes and payoffs....

etc. etc.

You give someone power they will abuse it, it's not a Con thing, not a Liberal thing, and if the NDP run the country I'll guarantee something will happen under their watch too.

Jamie Gillis

@Daryl McBride

I haven't always agreed with her, but given the circumstances, I have to applaud Jody Wilson-Raybould. She stood up to the bullies in the Prime Minister's Officer and stood her ground. And even in the face of multiple sources supporting the allegations, she won't throw her party under the bus. Liberals: that should be your leader right there.

William Martin

@Daryl McBride I'm with you on that one.

James Holden

@Daryl McBride

No laws have been broken by this Government.
Unlike the last one.

James Holden

@Daryl McBride

We have a new Justice Minister from Montreal.
Still the case has not been set aside.
That fact negates the allegations that she was demoted for not setting the prosecution aside.

The story does not hold water.

Daryl McBride

@James Holden Not according to the facts,

https://www.cbc.ca/news/thenational/trudeau-breaks-federal-ethics-laws-first-prime-minister-to-do-so-at-issue-1.4459763

Ron Brady

@Troy Mann "But, but Harper" won't cut it today, I'm afraid.

Jamie Gillis

@James Holden "We have a new Justice Minister from Montreal. Still the case has not been set aside."

The cabinet shuffle isn't even a month old! That's not indicative of anything. And why would Liberal and SNC Lavalin insiders all be saying this is it weren't true?

Jim Roth

@Daryl McBride The previous Minister did not give SNC a break from prosecution. She was moved in a cabinet shuffle. If the new Minister then gave SNC a break that would be suspicious, but that did not happen. The prosecution continued unchanged.

So the Conservative allegation is "you didn't do anything wrong, but we wish you had".

Jamie Gillis

@Jim Roth

What "Conservative allegation"?

Paul Doe

@Neil Turv

/sarcasm on

NO NO NO

It doesn't work that way.

We ignore when our side does something wrong, or we spin it so it was actually because the other side is evil. If the other side does something wrong, not only was it wrong in its own right, it is also a proper retort when our side does something wrong.

You must be a politics rookie.

/sarcasm off

Tyler Brown

@George Halbert McKinney
At the same time this post magically received 150+ down votes a pro Trudeau post appears at the top of most liked with 150+ up votes , which appeared in minutes, to take top spot.

Ron Brady

@George Halbert McKinney Yes I know. Both up and down votes were altered. I should have been more clear.

Murray Joah

@Tyler Brown
Get ready to be "disabled" for making THAT observation!!!

Allen Quisnel

@Murray Joah There are companies who actually work as 'commenters' who are in place to make people think popular opinion is a certain direction to sway public opinion. They have been active since 2002. "July 21, 2017 "Information Clearing House" - The Computational Propaganda Research Project (COMPROP) investigates the interaction of algorithms, automation and politics. This work includes analysis of how tools like social media bots are used to manipulate public opinion by amplifying or repressing political content, disinformation, hate speech, junk or fake news.

In their most recent report COMPROP have identified how organisations, often with public money, have created a system to help ‘define and manage what is in the best interest of the public.’

Neil Turv

@Paul Doe

Thanks Paul,

I am very aware that the quickest way to get a bunch of downvotes on this site is to state that neither side inherently evil or bad.

Troy Mann

@Neil Turv

I agree
But people like Darryl here pretending to be non-partisan is simply out of touch with reality. He has a long history of supporting Saudi Arabia, China, Russia and Venezuela over Canada so home pretending to have an excuse is hilarious.

Neil Turv

@Troy Mann

Sure, but he's easily balanced out by James Holden,

And just as many people on the left defend China, Venezeual and other dictators on this site as right wing people. (Sharp and mccaig being the most prime examples).

Munroe Kelly

@Daryl McBride
“I’m confident that I did not act inappropriately but I think the essence of this is that people can experience interactions differently.”

Justin Trudeau

Troy Mann

@Neil Turv

I disagree that as many defended China and Venezuela from the left than from conservatives on here.

Conservatives on here will always choose a foreign power over Canada. They have shown themselves very open on that, they cant ever phantom agreeing with Trudeau even when he is 100% right.

I disagreed with Harper on most things but still agreed with him on several. Conservatives will never say that, it goes against their beliefs. They would like to see Canada fail because to them it would make Trudeau look bad, ignoring the fact that Canada would fail. Trudeau looking bad is more important to them than Canada succeeding.

Greg Miller

@Daryl McBride SHADES OF TRUMP?

Neil Turv

@Troy Mann

Casting broad aspersions to any group isn't helpful

I'm a conservative supporter (ford notwithstanding) and support Trudeau on most immigration initiatives and tend to support the line he draws with totalitarian regimes.

Remember criticizing the tactics Trudeau uses to deal with these issues is not necessarily the same as supporting the dictator in question. It really isn't one or another and rarely is in any scenario, it's mostly grey.

Troy Mann

@Neil Turv

Criticizing tactics is one thing, usually offering up some type of alternative but the most liked posts in all those stories where partisan rants designed to give foreign powers partisan tools to use against Canada.

You know exactly what I am saying if you want to be non partisan about it.

Mark Hammer

@Jim Roth
Correct. The PM could have moved the minister in another cabinet shuffle at any previous time, but did not until Scott Brison's resignation obliged a cabinet shuffle. If it was that serious, why wait, right?

mike j malicki

@Daryl McBride ...Whats the chance SNC has deals with the U.N. ? I would say pretty good .

Ron Brady

@Daryl McBride For the record, this was the top post until 150 down votes magically appeared.

Tyler Brown

@Ron Brady
I noticed that too. A couple of hours ago it was 100 up votes to 10 down votes. I see the election interference has started early.

Jenna Collins

@Daryl McBride
Someone is playing with the likes/dislikes on this site again.

Murray Joah

@Daryl McBride
SeeBeeSee continually disabling me for pointing out how the votes suddenly changed.

Byron Whitford

@Murray Joah

They are doing it to me too.

Jenna Collins

@Murray Joah
The same thing is happening to me. Unbelievable that someone can manipulate the likes/dislikes in the Liberal's favour.

George Halbert McKinney

@Ron Brady "this was the top post until 150 down votes magically appeared."

As far as I can tell from several years of observation, "down votes" have no effect on the "Most Liked" ranking.

It does appear that there are multiple campaigns attempting to change rankings, but I think that "Most Liked" entirely ignores the number of down votes.

Byron Whitford

@George Halbert McKinney

You are correct. It only counts upvotes. The downvotes are for looks...

 

David Amos

@Daryl McBride Methinks it would not be wise to believe the Globe and Mail or the PM N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@Troy Mann "You know exactly what I am saying if you want to be non partisan about it."

Now thats funny

Tyler Brown

@George Halbert McKinney
At the same time this post magically received 150+ down votes a pro Trudeau post appears at the top of most liked with 150+ up votes , which appeared in minutes, to take top spot.

Ron Brady

@George Halbert McKinney Yes I know. Both up and down votes were altered. I should have been more clear.

Murray Joah

@Tyler Brown
Get ready to be "disabled" for making THAT observation!!!

Allen Quisnel

@Murray Joah There are companies who actually work as 'commenters' who are in place to make people think popular opinion is a certain direction to sway public opinion. They have been active since 2002. "July 21, 2017 "Information Clearing House" - The Computational Propaganda Research Project (COMPROP) investigates the interaction of algorithms, automation and politics. This work includes analysis of how tools like social media bots are used to manipulate public opinion by amplifying or repressing political content, disinformation, hate speech, junk or fake news.

In their most recent report COMPROP have identified how organisations, often with public money, have created a system to help ‘define and manage what is in the best interest of the public.’

bill laplante

@Allen Quisnel Good example of this is "Leadnow" working out of Vancouver and financed by the government of Canada under the Liberals and the Tide Foundation out of San-Francisco. Both have been working against the Conservatives and Harper in the last election and convincing people to be against the building of the western pipeline. They are commenting here every day.

Rob Cotnam

@George Halbert McKinney

That is SO not the point.

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David Amos

@bill laplante I am associated with nobody and comment constantly Furthermore I run for public office as an Independent (6 times thus far) and have sued the Crown Methinks folks may be curious as to how you would classify me and what I may say of you N'esy Pas/?

don mclean

@Troy Mann
Thanks Troy, but I, for one, am a solid Tory, who always places Canada first.

Stanley Baird

@Daryl McBride I dare the PM to fire the former justice minister! He will twist in the wind on this one - maybe she will cross the floor or resign, or just stay in cabinet and keep things ackward!

David Amos

@bill laplante "Leadnow" working out of Vancouver and financed by the government of Canada under the Liberals and the Tide Foundation out of San-Francisco."

Methinks the liberals will find it was strange that my reply to that statement was blocked N'esy Pas?

 
Pam Sutton

"It’s hard not to feel disappointed in your government when every day there is a new scandal."

Justin Trudeau October 2013

Edward Peter

@Pam Sutton
If there is one, and the scandal is not fake.

Al Kennedy

@Edward Peter
Unfortunately - "Wilson-Raybould refused Thursday to comment on the Globe's story, either to confirm or deny it."

Lucas Williams

@Al Kennedy

And her refusal to comment, either to confirm or deny, says it all, doesn't it?

Troy Mann

@Lucas Williams

How does refusing to make a statement give you the insight on her thoughts?

Byron Whitford

@Troy Mann

"How does refusing to make a statement give you the insight on her thoughts?"

It is called deductive reasoning. If a lawyer won't outright refute a negative accusation chances are it has some sembelance of truth to it.

Troy Mann

@Byron Whitford

If a lawyer hasn't read the report or have intimate knowledge on what is being asked they would state "I have no comment today" so they can obtain facts rather than hearsay...

Your reasoning is flawed, you are making an assumption based on no evidence.

Byron Whitford

@Troy Mann

If the lawyer is the one being accused and has direct knowledge of the situation and refuses to comment then you can make assumptions based on their non-answer. They don't need to read the report which in this case a news article she could read in 5 minutes THAT IS ALL ABOUT HER. If she hadn't read it by that time then that is a whole other problem.

Troy Mann

@Byron Whitford

You know what they say about making assumptions right

If she hasn't read or even knew about the article any lawyer would state "I have no comment today". Her statement using the word today is the indicator for me that she was blind sided and she knows better to say anything with out understanding the situation.

Phil Mein

@Troy Mann "Your reasoning is flawed, you are making an assumption based on no evidence."

Oh the hypocrisy !

David Amos

@Troy Mann "any lawyer would state "I have no comment today"

Methinks you should have taken that advice as well N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@Byron Whitford "If a lawyer won't outright refute a negative accusation chances are it has some sembelance of truth to it."

Several lawyers pulled that trick on me yesterday during a hearing but I went around their nonsense

Byron Whitford

@David Amos

They tried to avoid answering the question or implied you were guilty from your non-answers?

David Amos

@Byron Whitford "They tried to avoid answering the question"

I am guilty of nothing I is me who is suing the Crown

 

Byron Whitford

@David Amos

Nice. Just wanted clarification.

David Amos 

@Byron Whitford FYI I was arguing the CROWN in Federal Court before former Justice Minister Jody Wilson-Raybould was ever elected. Why she covered for Harper and Andy Scheer is still a mystery to me but no doubt it has something to do with me versus KPMG and that was what I was arguing yesterday with some interesting characters to say the least. One of them I ran against in 2004 after he turned coat on Harper's new Party and became a liberal like his buddy Brison who just quit as well

Methinks there are no coincidences N'esy Pas?










Jamie Gillis "

Having read the Globe and Mail's account, the information provided by sources is damning. "One well-connected Liberal with close ties to SNC-Lavalin said Ms. Wilson-Raybould “blew off the PMO” requests." In addition, "Sources at SNC-Lavalin told The Globe the PMO was furious with the justice minister’s intransigence on the remediation agreement and that the company was pleased to see her moved out of the portfolio."

All the information provided by sources in the article fits the facts. It looks pretty clear that the PMO, which was lobbied by SNC Lavalin 14 out of the 50 times they met with officials, are protecting the company and because Wilson-Raybould refused to do it, she was removed with someone who possibly will. This is possibly bigger than the Norman trial. I have to tip my hat to Wilson-Raybould: she stood up to the bullies in the PMO and seems to be remaining loyal. Make her leader of the Liberals!

James Holden

@Jamie Gillis

"the PMO was furious"

The story breaks down there as "the PMO" is not a single person. It is a large office with many people working.

Also the prosecution has not been set aside even with a new Justice MInister from Montreal.

"Sources from SNC-Lavalin" One of the most demonstrably corrupt companies in Canada, should not be believed without corroborative evidence.

This looks like dirty tricks of a type that Conservatives are well known for. Probably through their wholly owned subsidiary, the Ontario Proud boys.

Jamie Gillis

@James Holden

1) Everybody knows that the PMO is not one person, but that it's routinely referred to that way. The same phrase was used to describe the fallout from the cabinet leak in the Norman case.

2) The new Justice Minister hasn't even been in for a month yet, so that he hasn't taken any action on this yet isn't indicative of anything.

3) Liberal insiders are also cited as sources in the Globe article.

4) Trying to drag the Conservatives into this wreaks of desperation on your part.

Neil Turv

@James Holden

Your arguments against this article is essentially the written equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling "lalalala".

Liberals are just as capable of cronyism and nepotism as the Conservatives, and the Proud Boys conspiracy theory has the merit of a flat earthers claims.

I stepped in a puddle yesterday that was much deeper than I thought, can you explain to me how Scheer orchestrated my wet foot?

Al Kennedy

@James Holden
Your reply to the reported fact "One well-connected Liberal with close ties to SNC-Lavalin" is
"This looks like dirty tricks of a type that Conservatives are well known for"
LOL

Troy Mann

@Neil Turv

Capable yes but instantly believing an anonymous source is a stretch at best. I shrugged off many of those accusations during the Harper years and will do so now.

Your way foot, well an insider of the conservatives party who wants to remain anonymous told me Sheer created the puddle. You believe me right, because of my anonymous source.

Neil Turv

@Troy Mann

Like you I am withholding final judgement, but the G&M is hardly a far right source of information. While I will be happy to change my view, from what I have read in this case if it walks like a duck and sounds like a duck it's probably a duck, and a cabinet shuffle to get the result you want is a fairly common practice in politics.

Troy Mann

@Neil Turv

But why wait for Brison to resign to make the shuffle happen? If Trudeau was furious he could have made the change long ago.

Fact remains unless the anonymous source reveals themself or Wilson agrees with the anonymous source we will never have enough facts to make a decision. So you are left with the duck situation and like I said before, I brushed aside many anonymous sources during the Harper years because it is futile.

Jamie Gillis

@Troy Mann

Troy, you forget, or perhaps were unaware, that the Globe article identifies one of those anonymous sources as a "well-connected Liberal with close ties to SNC-Lavalin" and that this individual said "Ms. Wilson-Raybould “blew off the PMO” requests."

Are you saying this Liberal isn't a Liberal at all? Or Are you suggesting this Liberal made it up, along with any other sources telling the same story?

Jamie Gillis

@Troy Mann "But why wait for Brison to resign to make the shuffle happen? If Trudeau was furious he could have made the change long ago."

Optics.

Stanley Baird

@Jamie Gillis Let's see what all the fact are, but the removal of Wilson-Raybould has not yet been explained and so far this is the only explanation.

Jamie Gillis

@Stanley Baird

Well we have no choice but to wait. But there's no getting around it: none of this looks good.

 

Troy Mann

@Jamie Gillis "
Are you saying this Liberal isn't a Liberal at all? Or Are you suggesting this Liberal made it up, along with any other sources telling the same story"

Who are the other sources other than anonymous?

I rolled my eyes at many of the anonymous accusations against Harper and I will continue to do so while Trudeau is PM and whomever is next.

Anonymous accusations are useless until they are verified even when I dont like the person being accused.

David Amos

@Troy Mann I am not anonymous

William Thompson Jr.

@David Amos
No you're not, FBI is keeping a close eye on you.

David Amos

@William Thompson Jr. "FBI is keeping a close eye on you."

Oh So True

Methinks anyone can Google "David Amos wiretap" to understand why N'esy Pas?

 
Adam Smith

His nose is getting longer.

Reid Fleming

@Adam Smith And his tenure is getting shorter...

Stanley Baird

@Adam Smith did the last Liberal majority also go down due to scandal in Quebec?

Troy Mann

@Stanley Baird

I remember the last conservative majority went down due to failed policies that lead us into a recession...

 

Ryan Tulson

The recession was world wide and Canada came out on top! You may want to climb out from under the rock you were under for the last 20 years

David Amos

@Troy Mann "I remember the last conservative majority went down due to failed policies that lead us into a recession..."

Do you recall the reasons that you did not vote or me in 2006?

 
Daryl McBride

It wouldn't be the first time the Liberals have tried to intervene, the Stanley trial comes to mind.

Jack O Hill

@Daryl McBride

As well as the PM announcing that the investigation in VAdm Norman was certain to end up in court.

Irv Millar

@Daryl McBride Did you even read the articles from the Globe and Mail?
To quote: "The Globe and Mail never reported that officials in Mr. Trudeau's office had directed Ms. Wilson-Raybould to take action--only that she was pressured to do so and declined.
Well the PM/PMO have said otherwise. The only other party to make statements would be SNC Lavalin. Go figure eh?

Troy Mann

@Irv Millar

Conservatives slinging mud in every direction hoping something sticks yet anonymous sources are rarely reliable.

 

Phil Mein

@Troy Mann "Conservatives slinging mud in every direction hoping something sticks yet anonymous sources are rarely reliable."

Sounds like you're adopting Trump's style , looks good on you. LOL

David Amos

@Troy Mann I repeat I am not anonymous and you have never dared to argue even once Correct?

David Amos

@Irv Millar "The straws are being grasped. A mountain and the mole hill. The only way the Conservatives know how to govern. In blame, but no self-blame. There's mirrors for that eh?"

Methinks it must have felt good to be at the top of the heep or awhile N'esy Pas?

William Thompson Jr.

@David Amos
You're the spud with the FBI watching you!

David Amos

@William Thompson Jr. "You're the spud with the FBI watching you!"

Methinks your late night comments beg the obvious question N'esy Pas?

Are you a member of the RCMP working with the FBI or are you a FBI Special Agent attached with IRS like the 3 Yankee Treasury dudes I sued in 2002?

 
Richard Dekkar

This is headline news and it's buried in the Politics section on this site. Did the PMO send those instructions too?

Daryl McBride

@Richard Dekkar Of course he did.

Sophia Riangulo

@Richard Dekkar Shows up on the front page as the first article and a large photo for me.

 

Richard Dekkar

@Sophia Riangulo

Yes thanks, it does for me now too. It didn't appear there at first but even our public broadcaster can't hide this one.

David Amos

@Richard Dekkar Of that I have no doubt

Jim Clark

@Richard Dekkar 600 mill gets you a lot of favours

Guy Stone

@Richard Dekkar billions of dollars easily takes control of the media

David Amos

@Guy Stone Oh So True

That fact became a matter of history in the US of A in about 1974 or so.

 
bill chagwich

I will be voting A Scheer conservatives in the next election, Canadians deserve better, enough is enough

Graham Greene

@bill chagwich

I thought you wanted 'better'??

Stephen David

@bill chagwich

Well said....as will many Canadians. Enough is enough already.

Arthur Gill

@Graham Greene
That is what he said. What makes you think he is wrong?

Graham Greene

@Arthur Gill

Scheer. And face of Pierre P. among others . . .
.

Arthur Gill

@Graham Greene
That is not an answer.

Chuck MacDonald

@bill chagwich I SECOND THAT

  

Troy Mann

@Arthur Gill

Provide one policy Sheer has that will make things better?

Allowing Quebec to collect federal taxes?

The suggestion that there will be no 'scandals' especially from anonymous sources with Sheer as leader is just silly talk at best. There was this type of stuff on a daily basis when Harper was PM and conservatives in chorus all said "but but Chretien"

David Amos

@Troy Mann "but but Chretien"

Methinks you know what happened between Chretien and I N'esy Pas?

Daryll Mcbain

@bill chagwich Scheer is the only choice next election.

Molly Earl

@Daryll Mcbain A Harper puppet, I think not

David Amos

@bill chagwich Methinks before you do so you really should ask Mr Scheer or one of his minions why I sued the Crown in 2015 and why the liberals have been defending his actions ever since N'esy Pas?

Doug Gray

@David Amos
Why don’t you tell us David?

David Amos

@Doug Gray I explained it long ago review this comment section

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276

bobby ornstein

People in the PMO today running around with their Armani pants on fire ...

Ted Wach

@bobby ornstein Hopefully the socks don't get consumed....

Jan Rose

@bobby ornstein Wow, the paid bots are out on this one.

David Amos

@bobby ornstein Methinks the antics of the boyz in shorts pants in the PCO must be quite a circus too N'esy Pas?

Will McGregor

@Jan Rose For some reason they're only down voting the main comments and not the replies.

NORMAN JAMIESON

@bobby ornstein No...... Butts on fire

Rob Cotnam

@bobby ornstein

The magical downvote unicorn rides again!

David Amos

@Rob Cotnam Welcome to the circus

 
Jamie Gillis

Wilson-Raybould's "shuffle" out of the Justice file was not well received among many communities and Canadians. This is going to add a lot of salt to that wound. Heh, unless you believe Trudeau.

Seriously, the Globe article is worth the subscription. The details are jaw dropping.

Stanley Baird

@Jamie Gillis disappointing that the PM or PMO would interfere with the courts while the PM tells China that he cannot do such things in Canada.

David Amos

@Stanley Baird Surprise Surprise Surprise

John Wakefield

Trudeau and ethics issues again! When does it end? October 2019?

Billie-Bob Brown

@John Wakefield
You mean like the other ethics matters that were really no big deal, when the actual facts are fully understood?

John Wakefield

@Billie-Bob Brown

So the elaborate expensive trip to the Aga Khan's private island for Trudeau and his entourage, and the $50 million he gave to the Aga Khan are just an inconvenient coincidence....

 

Billie-Bob Brown

@John Wakefield
No evidence of influence that benefited the Aga Khan. Only minor breaches of reporting to the many bodies that are officially required to be reported to (with each lack of reporting being counted as a separate 'ethics' issue by some people)

Billie-Bob Brown

@John Wakefield
I suppose some people also believe that Trudeau tweeting Canada's commitment to support girl's education in developing nations to Trevor Noah during his hosting of a fund raiser in SA is also an 'ethical violation that benefited Trevor Noah'.

David Amos

@John Wakefield "Trudeau and ethics issues again! When does it end? October 2019?"

Methinks that many will agree that Trudeau The Younger and his cohorts will win again because Harper 2.0 and his old buddy Maxime will split the vote on the right and the NDP will sink even further under their current leadership However whatever way it turns out it will be an entertaining circus from now until polling day N'esy Pas?

Phil K'Mee

@David Amos

Non.

 
Robert Fournier

This certainly explains credibly why the minister was demoted from Justice to Veterans affairs

Stanley Baird

@Robert Fournier so our self-proclaimed feminist PM may have demoted the minister of Justice when she refused to act improperly in this case at his request? His actions tell me all I need to know about his feminist and ethical credentials - he can stop lecturing the rest of us now, thanks.

David Amos

@Robert Fournier Methinks a lot of Veterans do not consider it a demotion N'esy Pas?

 
John Smith

Sorry Trudeau but you're a listen and believe feminist. Accusations equal proof for you. I'm gonna take a page out of the progressive (your) hand book and take these accusations as true even without a shred of evidence and hold them against you. You reap what you sow pal.

Tony Belmore

@John Smith Ya!

Tom Simpson

@John Smith

Wow. You know, I know you post a lot of BS like this but c'mon... Those two things are so different in scope. I mean.. it's just ridiculous.

John Smith

@Tom Simpson What's different? You like the person being accused without proof this time?

Tom Simpson

@John Smith

I'm not even going to get into this with you. It's just ignorant.

John Smith

@Tom Simpson You're not going to get into this because you know you're wrong.

Tom Simpson

@John Smith

I'm really not though John. I'm really not.

John Smith

@Tom Simpson care to offer an explanation of why you're not wrong? or are you going to stop at a simple claim and hope hope that's enough to prove something?

Alanna Logan

@Tom Simpson not too much support for your so called right position. Might be time to reevaluate.

Randy A. Selkirk

@John Smith Good one John , good one !

Tom Simpson

@Alanna Logan

The allegations may be true and it may not be. That's my stance on it. We barely know anything about it yet.

Tom Simpson

@John Smith

Like I said John, I really hope you know why comparing the two is way out of scope. I really hope you do.

John Smith

@Tom Simpson I do but the act of punishing someone without proof is equally wrong in either scenario.

Tom Simpson

@John Smith

That's certainly a good point. However, that isn't always possible.

Jim Lauzon

@John Smith
it wasn't "Listen and believe" when JT was the accused sexual offender either.

David Amos

@Jim Lauzon True

David Amos

@John Smith "care to offer an explanation of why you're not wrong? or are you going to stop at a simple claim and hope hope that's enough to prove something?"

Methinks Trudeau the Younger and his latest Minister of Justice should review paragraph 83 of my statement of claim In Federal Court I filed it when Harper was the PM N'esy Pas?

 
Tim O'Day

I'm amazed that the Globe story made it's way past the Guardians at Trudeau's Ministry of Truth and Sunny Ways.
Maybe the Globe's share of the $595 Million hasn't been received yet?

David Amos

@Tim O'Day Methinks everybody knows that the Globe and Mai leans to the right N'esy Pas?

 
Nico De Jong

Why is it that whenever Liberals are in government, within a few short years the whole scene just reeks of corrup tion?

Michael Taylor

@Nico De Jong
so far nothing compares with Duffy-gate. Harper still outnumbers the libs on corruption scandals.

Richard Ade

@Nico De Jong The most surprising thing is the people that keep voting for them and supporting them. What have they delivered? Pot, more debts, bad trade deals USMCA, ....

Eileen Kinley

@Nico De Jong

Yeah, the CPC are able to hide it longer.

Jason James

@Nico De Jong

Same can be said of the Conservatives. No government is immune to corruption.

Dave Edwards

@Eileen Kinley That's not a denial of Liberal corruption.

If anything you're admitting that the Conservatives seem to know what they're doing better than the Liberals.

Brian Rose

@Nico De Jong have something to do with PQ

Dale Bengtzen

@Jason James
This isn't about the Conservatives.

Eileen Kinley

@Dave Edwards

Why would I deny Liberal corruption? I'm waiting for more information on this situation.

Jason James

@Dale Bengtzen

No but when someone acts like ONLY the Liberals are corrupt, it needs to be brought up that there are other political parties who are as well.

Nico De Jong

@Nico De Jong
bEcause IT'S THE LIBERAL WAY ?

Irv Millar

@Nico De Jong Not sure. Maybe ask Steve, Mike, Ernie, Grant, Brad or Jason?

Dan Desormeaux

@Dave Edwards some people are not blind party stooges. Do you disagree that MOST politicians are corrupt or corruptible?

Andy Steinbach

@Jason James

Well, that's just called deflection because this story is about Trudeau and the Liberals...

David Amos

@Nico De Jong Methinks the same can be said of any government N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@Dan Desormeaux "Do you disagree that MOST politicians are corrupt or corruptible?"

Methinks everybody knows that is the reason I sued the Crown and have run against all the political parties six times thus far N'esy Pas?

Phil K'Mee

@Nico De Jong

Because sometimes causation does stem from correlation.

 
Steve Sax

Apparently the Globe and Mail isn’t good enough for the CBC as a news source. They only believe the LPC as a news source

Eileen Kinley

@Steve Sax

They're reporting it.

Shawn Pieterson

@Steve Sax
Globe and mail doesn't pay the bills, sorry.

Jamie Gillis

@Eileen Kinley

The only thing the CBC has really reported here is that Trudeau is saying "No I didn't!" Read the Globe article. The information from sources, both Liberals and SNC Lavalin, are staggering.

Steve Sax

@Eileen Kinley

They were kinda forced to report on another news sources report

David Amos

@Steve Sax "Apparently the Globe and Mail isn’t good enough for the CBC as a news source"

Methinks the CBC are not alone in that regard N'esy Pas?

 
Steve Sax

Irvings
McCains
SNC Lavilian
Bombardier

Seem to own the Liberals

Paul Underhill

Suggest looking into a long time connection between a particular Canadian family
and the Trudeaus, Mulroneys and the Chretiens.

@Steve Sax Need to add the Bronfmans and Desmarais to that list

David Amos

@Steve Sax I wholeheartedly agree

David Amos

@ "Need to add the Bronfmans and Desmarais to that list"

YUP BUT

Methinks everybody would like to know who I am agreeing with N'esy Pas?

 
Nico De Jong

Perfect time to take a walk in the snow, Trudeau.
Do Canada, and yourself - a huge favour, and do just that.
Don't worry, your career at the UN is secure - the more experience you have at alleged corruption, the better your resume looks to them.

Mike Irvine

@Nico De Jong make the walk up by Ft Mac and its -50C

Brad Mercier

@Mike Irvine
Must be the AGW.

Andrew Hanson

@Nico De Jong blah blah blah .

Alan Humphreys

@Andrew Hanson-"blah blah blah"? I dazzled by your contribution! And your next defence submission will be?

David Amos

@Nico De Jong "Perfect time to take a walk in the snow, Trudeau"

Methinks we can only just watch Trudeau The Younger look for his Father's tracks in the snow of long ago N'esy Pas?

 
Pam Sutton

"Low income Canadians don't pay taxes, AND my high income corporate pals don't go to court" - Justin Trudeau

Richard Riel

@Pam Sutton And in many cases don't pay taxes whatsoever.

Michael Brown

@Richard Riel Really? I'd love to see your evidence.

Edward Peter

@Pam Sutton
Said when, under what condition, or just another misleading comment?

David Amos

@Pam Sutton "Low income Canadians don't pay taxes, AND my high income corporate pals don't go to court" - Justin Trudeau

Say it again Pam

 
bobby ornstein

Trudeau's sidekick and best pal in the PMO knows this BOMBSHELL is about to bring the entire Liberal government down. Gerry was up at 3:34 AM this morning tweeting.

He must be VERY worried.

David Amos

@bobby ornstein Methinks he may have to take the fall like Harper's Chief of Staff did over the Duffy Affair N'esy Pas?

Ross Piercey

@David Amos

Bingo, a fall guy for the Vice-Admiral Norman screw up as well, one blow and all is hunky dory, then sock boy gets to go on another cross country tour to cry to the base.

 
Pam Sutton

When asked about this on camera, Trudeau looked like he was about to start crying.

Ricky Weston

@Pam Sutton I think he may of wet his pants.

Mike Irvine

@Pam Sutton ROFLMAO!

Angus Mackenzie

@Pam Sutton It's the default position for a child in trouble.

Sand In

@Pam Sutton
again...

David Amos

@Angus Mackenzie "It's the default position for a child in trouble."

Oh So True

 
Donald Patrick

I watched question period and Liberals have been muzzled to give only name, rank and serial number. This is not the kind of democracy and transparency Canadians expect. Trudeau must go!!!

David Amos

@Donald Patrick Methinks the fat lady ain't sung yet on this issue N'esy Pas?

John Paul Maxwell

All this in just 3 years.Wow!!

David Amos

@John Paul Maxwell Methinks there were a lots sunny days within those 3 years for Trudeau the Younger to enjoy N'esy Pas?

 
Nico De Jong

Why is it whenever Liberals are in power, it "feels" like the mob is running things?

Richard Riel

@Nico De Jong Trademark....

James Holden

@Nico De Jong

Projection.

Zelda Tucker

@Nico De Jong Liberano

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David Amos

@Zelda Tucker LIEbrano

David Amos

@David Amos Too Funny

 
TORI BUFFET

If media spent more time on Liberals and Canada issues rather than US and Trump, we would be uncovering these kind of things long time ago!!

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David Amos

@TORI BUFFET YUP

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David Amos

@David Amos Too Funny

David Amos

@TORI BUFFET I wholeheartedly agree

David Amos

@david kirby "You simply have to look at the gender balance on CBC to see why the focus is on Trump"

Methinks that is a very strange comment to make N'esy Pas?

 
Arthur Gill

The actual Globe and Mail article goes into much more detail than this abreviated CBC version.

Tom Simpson

@Mike Irvine

How can a story like this just go away? Put your bias aside.

Peter Manchak

@Tom Simpson Really..not from where I sit.

David Amos

@Peter Manchak Sit back and enjoy the circus

 
Cindy Langlois

Sunny ways sure seems like “same old song and dance”. This government has been such a disappointment.

John Smith

@Cindy Langlois

liberals were a nothing party for 10 years during the conservative rule. All the old liberals quit or died. What did they have left expect the drama queen?
Suddenly, they won a majority and have all these new and inexperienced people including the drama queen along with GB who is an unmitigated disaster in every sense.

Now we see why there are so many problems with this party

Cameron Kernick

@Cindy Langlois There was so much hope in 2015 that Trudeau would lead us to a better place after the declining last negative years of the Conservatives. Canada wanted change and sunny ways with a charismatic leader seemed like just the ticket. Instead we got the typical Quebec Liberal politics, scandal, entitlement and arrogance that we saw in the past only this time from a much less experienced PMO and Privy Council that has made so many mistakes and missteps the traditional Canadian 2nd term majority is unravelling after only 3 years on the job.

John Chow

@Cameron Kernick

The results we are seeing now are near exactly what I expected to happen.

David Amos 

 @John Chow Methinks everybody in the know knew the score between the liberals and I as soon as they sent Justice Southcott and a certain lady Crown Counsel against me on January 11th, 2016. Trust that I enjoyed the spit and chew. The liberals hhad the Speaker Regan send me a nice letter afterwards and were floored when I remained true to my word and appealed the judgement even though it was in my favour. Everybody knows it has been an unholy war in the courts ever since Clearly I ain't taking prisoners N'esy Pas?

 
Pat Smith

CBC pushes Orange Man Bad narrative, while this and Norman scandal happens under their noses. Brutal!

David Amos

@Pat Smith YUP Methinks that is one of the reasons Brison just exited stage left N'esy Pas?

 
Ryan Carter

What's one more ethics violation.

Scott Nelson

@Ryan Carter it's almost as if it's their MO.

Robert Swanson

@Ryan Carter "What's one more ethics violation."?
The record??

;)

David Amos

@Robert Swanson Methinks it should be illegal to put ethics and integrity in the same sentences with lawyers and politicians Furthermore the "Honourable" BS as soon as somebody is politically appointed must make a lot of decent folks feel very ill N'esy Pas?

 
Ed Riley

I'm looking forward to seeing how the Liberals try to blame this on Harper

David Amos

@Ed Riley I am no liberal but it is easy to do.

Methinks Harper was so bad that it was his fault the folks had to vote for Trudeau in order to be rid of him N'esy Pas?

 
Steve Sax

Trudeau thought bubble..... how can we spin this as Harpers fault

David Amos

@Steve Sax Look up to see my reply to Mr Riley

Ted Kennedy

After reading the full Globe article I think Justin is finished.

Bob Terwilliger

@Ted Kennedy We can only hope.

Michael Scotia

@Ted Kennedy
... voters are superficial they are guided be emotion.
That is why Trump ratings are Trudeau ratings are so good.
They sell (right/left) populist fiction and are good at it.

David Amos

@Ted Kennedy Methinks you have an interesting name Do tell are you any relation to my former Yankee Senator? Everybody knows the he and PET were pals N'esy Pas?

 
david kirby

Boy does this ever smell!!

Irv Millar

@david kirby Read the articles yet??

Myke Lee

@Irv Millar ye I did a d agree with David kirby,did you?

Richard Peck

@Myke Lee Read off the globe if you can WOW

David Amos

@Irv Millar Methinks you should tune into CBC right now N'esy Pas?

Reid Fleming

Quebec needs to diversify its economy away from organized crime, and taxpayer-funded graft...

Richard Riel

@Reid Fleming They are in too deep this is in their DNA and trademark.

Emile Nelligan

@Reid Fleming Conrad Black is from Ontario!

David Amos

@Reid Fleming Methinks you may enjoy Googling "David Amos wiretap" N'esy Pas?

 
Steve Kirk

How very reassuring! Do the right thing and resign. Fat chance that will happen...

David Amos

@Steve Kirk Mais Oui

 
Randolph F Whelan

Just clicked "Top Story " Sure enough, a Trump opinion piece to take the attention off of Justin.

David Amos

@Randolph F Whelan Surprise Surprise Surprise

 
Eric Wirta

Trudeau has never told Canadians the truth from day one , why would he start now.

David Amos

@Eric Wirta Exactly

 
Eric Biallas

Coming from a Pm who said he wouldn't raise taxes and the budget will balance itself!
Malarky!

David Amos

@Eric Biallas Oh So True

 
Stephen David

The Globe and Mail is highly respected....this couldn't possibly go worse for the Liberals.

David Amos

@Stephen David Methinks if you only knew what Mr Scheer and I know you would be singing a different tune N'esy Pas?

 
John Chow

This would not be the first time the PM Trudeau inappropriately involved himself in a legal matter.

David Amos

@John Chow Methinks a lot of folks enjoyed his legalistic answer N'esy Pas?

 
Daryl McBride

Fake liberal up votes won't save Trudeau, Canadians are smarter than that.

Mitchell Gant

@Daryl McBride
Really?? Trudeau got elected.....how do you explain that?

Myke Lee

@Mitchell Gant pot

Leszek Hoszko

@Mitchell Gant So did Trump

em tae

@Daryl McBride

believe me.....unfortunately the electorate has a very short memory. once JT starts bribing us all with our own money closer to the election all will be forgotten.

Graham Greene

@Daryl McBride

Harper got re-elected after the in-out scandal . . .

You're giving voters too much credit

Irv Millar

@Graham Greene This isn't a scandal. It is the Conservatives resorting to their staid ways. Blame the government. Hoping it'll stick, truthful or not, giving them their only platform, as whiners. Close to winners, but the lack of a governable platform/policy has eluded them since they found their mantra in the far right.

David Amos

@Daryl McBride "Fake liberal up votes won't save Trudeau, Canadians are smarter than that."

YUP

David Amos

@Irv Millar Methinks a lot of folks are puzzled by the fact that your comments do not stand the test of time N'esy Pas?

Trudeau under fire over claim he pressured justice minister to intervene in SNC-Lavalin fraud case

Company facing charges of fraud and corruption in connection with payments to Libyan officials

Elizabeth Thompson · CBC News · Posted: Feb 07, 2019 12:06 PM ET

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is denying a report that his office pressured ex-justice minister Jody Wilson-Raybould to intervene in the case of fraud and corruption charges against construction giant SNC-Lavalin. (CBC)

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau found himself in the opposition's crosshairs Thursday following a report that he pressed former Justice Minister Jody Wilson-Raybould to intervene in the prosecution of construction giant SNC-Lavalin on charges of fraud and corruption.

Trudeau denied today that he or his staff "directed" Wilson-Raybould to intervene. At one point, in reply to a journalist's question, he said in French that he never "asked" her to make any decisions in the case.

"The allegations in the Globe story this morning are false," Trudeau told reporters during a Toronto-area news conference Thursday morning.

"Neither the current nor the previous attorney general was ever directed by me, or by anyone in my office, to take a decision in this matter."

• RCMP needs to probe allegation PMO pressured Wilson-Raybould on SNC- Lavalin case, says former judge

However, Trudeau's denial did little to satisfy the opposition Conservatives and New Democrats. The allegations, made by unnamed sources to the Globe and Mail, dominated Thursday's question period.

"We have heard the prime minister's very carefully scripted legalistic answer," said Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer. "But the question is, did anyone in the Prime Minister's Office at any time communicate with anyone in the former attorney general's office on the matter of the criminal prosecution of SNC-Lavalin — yes or no?"

Guy Caron, parliamentary leader for the New Democratic Party, drew a link between the allegations and illegal political donations the company has made in the past.

"SNC-Lavalin illegally gave more than $110,000 to the Liberal Party and its (riding) associations.

Today, SNC-Lavalin needs a helping hand because they are in trouble," Caron said, pointing out that the company had lobbied the government more than 50 times in the past two years.

"The justice minister was fired and everybody asked why. Was she fired because the bottom line is a friend is a friend?"

Current Justice Minister David Lametti was forced to field question after question, repeating Trudeau's response from earlier in the day and saying he personally had received no pressure or directives to intervene in the case.

Meanwhile, the woman at the centre of the storm remained silent. Wilson-Raybould, who was moved out of the prestigious Justice portfolio to Veterans Affairs last month, refused to answer reporters' questions Thursday — either to back up her boss or to deny the Globe and Mail's report.

The Globe and Mail story said Wilson-Raybould was shuffled from her portfolio after she refused to ask federal prosecutors to make a plea bargain deal with Montreal-based SNC-Lavalin. The newspaper, citing anonymous sources, said Trudeau's office tried to press Wilson-Raybould to intervene in the prosecution of SNC Lavalin.

• SNC-Lavalin should be barred from federal contracts: Angus

CBC News has not independently verified the allegations.

Bill Wilson, Wilson-Raybould's father and a Kwakwaka'wakw hereditary chief in B.C., told CBC News his daughter has an iron will and will emerge from this scandal clean.

"If she or I had been purchasable at some point in time in our political career, it never happened, it didn't happen and will never happen," said Wilson.

"If this mess comes out as messy as I imagine it might be, she will be one of the few people that won't get any dirt on her."

Wilson-Raybould is refusing to comment on reports that the Prime Minister's Office pressed her to intervene in the case against SNC-Lavalin. (Fred Chartrand/Canadian Press)

SNC-Lavalin is before a court in Montreal, charged with fraud and corruption in connection with payments of nearly $48 million to public officials in Libya under Moammar Gadhafi's government and allegations it defrauded Libyan organizations of an estimated $130 million.

The company is contesting the case and has pleaded not guilty. The case is at the preliminary hearing stage.

If convicted, the company could be blocked from competing for federal government contracts for a decade.

In 2013, SNC-Lavalin was debarred from competing on any project financed by the World Bank for 10 years following an investigation into allegations of bribery schemes involving the company and officials in Bangladesh.

On Friday, former SNC-Lavalin CEO Pierre Duhaime pleaded guilty to helping a public servant commit breach of trust in a deal that resulted in 20 months of house arrest, 240 hours of community service and a $200,000 donation to a fund for victims of crime.

• Former SNC-Lavalin CEO pleads guilty in superhospital fraud case

In late November, the company's former vice-president Normand Morin pleaded guilty to charges of violating Canada's election financing rules through an elaborate scheme that sent more than $117,000 to the federal Liberal and Conservative parties and to individual candidates.

• Key figure in illegal election financing scheme quietly pleads guilty

The company maintains that the charges resulted from the actions of former executives and it is under new management. It says it has cleaned up its act.

On Thursday, it refused all comment.

According to the Globe and Mail's report, SNC-Lavalin lobbied Trudeau's government to agree to a deferred prosecution agreement or remediation agreement. In such cases, the prosecution is set aside; in return, the company admits responsibility and takes remedial steps, such as paying a fine or adopting compliance rules.

To date, the Public Prosecution Service has refused to negotiate a deal with SNC-Lavalin. The company has challenged that decision.

According to the anonymous sources cited by the Globe and Mail, unidentified officials in Trudeau's office pressed Wilson-Raybould to use her power to intervene.

Scheer described the allegations as very troubling and called on Trudeau to tell Canadians what happened.

"It is clear that the prime minister is hiding something because he wasn't very transparent, he didn't respond to the other questions and he returned to one line that sounded like it was constructed by lawyers," he told reporters.

Scheer said his party will explore all options to pursue the allegation. "All the options are on the table," he said, refusing to spell out what he had in mind.

Scheer also didn't say whether a Conservative government would have granted SNC-Lavalin's request for a remediation agreement.

"If there is going to be any discussion from very high levels in the government to grant an exemption or an alternative measure to a company when we're talking about very serious prosecutions, that must be done with full transparency and this is not what we're seeing here," he said.

"We're talking about allegations the prime minister or his office exerted a great deal of pressure and when they didn't get the answer they liked, they fired the minister of justice."

Meanwhile, a former Saskatchewan judge says the RCMP needs to investigate the allegations. Mary Ellen Turpel-Lafond, currently director of the University of British Columbia's Indian Residential School History and Dialogue Centre, told CBC News a federal police investigation is necessary to restore public confidence in the administration of justice.


Elizabeth Thompson can be reached at elizabeth.thompson@cbc.ca

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RCMP needs to probe allegation PMO pressured Wilson-Raybould on SNC- Lavalin case, says former judge

Wilson-Raybould's father, First Nations leader Bill Wilson, says daughter will emerge clean from messy affair

Jorge Barrera · CBC News · Posted: Feb 07, 2019 3:42 PM ET 

Veterans Affairs Minister Jody Wilson-Raybould is caught in the midst of a storm following a story that said the Prime Minister's Office pressed her to intervene in a case against SNC-Lavalin while she was Attorney-General. (Sean Kilpatrick/The Canadian Press)

A former Saskatchewan judge says the RCMP needs to investigate allegations reported by the Globe and Mail Thursday that the Prime Minister's Office pressured former Justice Minister Jody Wilson-Raybould to intervene in the criminal prosecution of a multinational engineering firm.

Mary Ellen Turpel-Lafond, a former Saskatchewan judge for 20 years, said a federal police investigation is necessary to restore public confidence in the administration of justice.

"A political official or an administrative official in government that attempts to influence a prosecution...is not only immoral but is illegal," said Turpel-Lafond, currently director of the University of British Columbia's Indian Residential School History and Dialogue Centre.

"If there is evidence, if this story proves accurate, then this must be turned over to the RCMP for a full investigation... This is a very serious matter and it may have an element of criminality that needs to be evaluated appropriately."

The Globe and Mail reported anonymous sources said PMO officials pressured Wilson-Raybould while she was Attorney General to push the federal Public Prosecution Service of Canada, which was handling a corruption and fraud prosecution of SNC-Lavalin Group Inc., to abandon the criminal prosecution in favour of a remediation agreement —which often results in a corporation paying a fine after admitting culpability.

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Wilson-Raybould was shuffled from her post in January to Veterans Affairs in a move that drew surprise and criticism from Indigenous political and legal quarters.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said Thursday morning the story was false and that neither he nor anyone in his office ever directed Wilson-Raybould to "take a decision in this matter."

Mary Ellen Turpel-Lafond, a former Saskatchewan judge currently director of the University of British Columbia’s Indian Residential School History and Dialogue Centre, says an RCMP investigation is needed. (CBC)

Possible role of PCO Clerk needs clarification

Turpel-Lafond said there were too many issues raised by the report for the federal government to simply try and move on.

"There are a number of potential issues around influence, around obstruction, possibly mischief... this is a whole range of issues raised by the scenario that appears in the Globe and Mail," said Turpel-Lafond.

Turpel-Lafond said there also needs to be clarity around what role, if any, the Clerk of the Privy Council, Michael Wernick, played in the scenario raised by the report.

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"If the Clerk of the Privy Council has been involved in any way in this scandal then perhaps he should be relieved of his responsibility," said Turpel-Lafond.

"Even if there is just the whiff that it is a question of confidence in our institutions, we need to replace the people that are there with people that can be trusted, that have absolute neutrality."

The PCO did not respond to a request for comment.

Report: Wilson-Raybould rebuked for Indigenous rights speeches

The Globe and Mail report also said that Wernick rebuked Wilson-Raybould in response to four speeches she gave signalling she faced resistance from inside government on her push to have Ottawa respect and fully acknowledge Indigenous rights.

"We understand the reported incidents are based on sources and we can't determine their veracity," said Assembly of First Nations National Chief Perry Bellegarde, in an emailed statement.

"But clearly, when Minister Wilson-Raybould speaks she deserves to be heard, she deserves respect and her remarks deserve serious consideration, not rebuke. Such and action is unacceptable."

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is embraced by Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada Jody Wilson-Raybould after delivering a speech on the recognition and implementation of Indigenous rights in the House of Commons on Feb. 14, 2018. The framework has since been shelved. (Justin Tang/Canadian Press)

B.C's First Nations Summit Grand Chief Ed John said he hadn't previously heard about Wernick's alleged rebuke, but has seen a disconnect between the words of Trudeau and his ministers and the words of federal officials at the negotiating table.

"At the end of the day, wherever the pieces will fall, on the piece dealing with Indigenous rights it certainly captured our attention and we hope it gets attention of people across the country," said John.

'I have faith in my sister'

Bill Wilson, Wilson-Raybould's father and a Kwakwaka'wakw hereditary chief in B.C. who faced off with former prime minister Pierre Trudeau in constitutional talks in the 1980s, said his daughter has an iron will and would emerge from this scandal clean.

"If she or I had been purchasable at some point in time in our political career it never happened, it didn't happen and will never happen," said Wilson.

"If this mess comes out as messy as I imagine it might be, she will be one of the few people that won't get any dirt on her."

Bill Wilson, Veterans Affairs Minister Jody Wilson-Raybould’s father and a Kwakwaka’wakw hereditary chief, pictured here during 1983 Constitutional talks where he faced off with former prime minister Pierre Trudeau. (CBC News)

Wilson said Trudeau's decision to shuffle her from the Justice portfolio was a "kick in the teeth."
"I found that not only was it insulting, but politically stupid," he said.

"Any of the aspirations they make under reconciliation, as far as I am concerned, are a farce... another shadow dance around the table with another Trudeau."

Wilson-Raybould's sister, Kory Wilson, said the Veterans Affairs Minister continues to be focused on her work, despite the storm the story created.

"I have faith in my sister and I am very proud of the hard work she has done," she said.

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Jorge Barrera

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Jorge Barrera is a Caracas-born, award-winning journalist who has worked across the country and internationally. He works for CBC's Indigenous unit based out of Ottawa. Follow him on Twitter @JorgeBarrera or email him jorge.barrera@cbc.ca.

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