David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
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Methinks politicking does not have to make sense within Higgy's Police State N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/05/province-wont-screen-out-of-province.html
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-out-of-province-workers-follow-guidelines-1.5568242
Province won't screen out-of-province workers to see if N.B. labour can perform job
Premier Blaine Higgs suggested construction workers entering N.B. would be assessed to determine if needed
· CBC News · Posted: May 14, 2020 5:00 AM AT
Out-of-province construction workers have to either self-isolate for 14 days or the company they work for has to submit a plan showing how the workers will stay away from New Brunswickers. (CBC)
The government will not be screening out-of-province construction workers entering New Brunswick to determine if they're really needed here, despite recent comments by Premier Blaine Higgs.
New COVID-19 policies limiting travel into the province do not include an assessment of whether a New Brunswick worker is able to do a job being filled by someone from outside, the Department of Public Safety confirmed Wednesday.
Higgs suggested otherwise in an interview with CBC's The House last Saturday.
Asked about provincial border controls, Higgs said it would be "a balancing act" between allowing construction season to get underway and assessing whether out-of-province workers were really needed given the risk of COVID-19.
"It's also understanding very clearly, 'why are you coming to New Brunswick?'" he said. "If they have contracts and they're coming here, are they indeed contracts that can't be done by people here in the province, or is it indeed an expertise that we need from outside?"
Adding to the confusion was a statement Tuesday by the Department of Public Safety that decisions "on what jobs can be done by workers in the province" are made ahead of time "via their employer and/or WorkSafe NB."
Departments don't dictate hiring
But it's now apparent there is no such screening underway either at the border or elsewhere and the province has no say in whether out-of-province employees are hired for long-term work."No department dictates whether any company can hire someone from New Brunswick or elsewhere," Coreen Enos, a spokesperson for the Department of Public Safety, said in an emailed statement.
"Nor does any department assess whether the work can be done by a company in-province before looking out-of-province."
"We expect that some companies planning to bring in outside workers will contemplate hiring under-employed New Brunswickers instead, but that's not a requirement," Enos said.
2 options from WorkSafe NB
WorkSafe NB is assessing how employers using out-of-province workers will comply with COVID-19 safety measures, but that doesn't include looking at whether New Brunswickers could or should be hired instead."We still do not make the determination of whether an out-of-province worker may take a job in New Brunswick or whether that job could be done by someone already here," WorkSafeNB said in a statement.
"The employer determines if the work can be done by someone who lives in New Brunswick or if they must look outside the province to hire, contract or subcontract someone with the required skill or competency.
"Our role is only to approve the isolation elements of an employer's operational plan and to monitor compliance."
Construction companies that bring out-of-province workers to New Brunswick have to follow guidelines from WorkSafeNB. (Ryan Remiorz/Canadian Press)
The WorkSafeNB guidelines lay out two options for employers bringing in workers from outside the province.
They either have to ensure the workers self-isolate for 14 days, similar to requirements for others who are allowed to travel into New Brunswick, or they must submit a plan 15 days in advance on how the workers will stay away from New Brunswickers.
The plan must go to WorkSafeNB and must show that the employer will keep the workers isolated from New Brunswickers "during work hours and while off duty" and also while they travel between their accommodations and the worksite.
Higgs referred to those requirements at a media briefing Monday.
"We want to understand that they are absolutely isolating in their particular jobs site and they're not coming right in and working with New Brunswick workers," he said. "That would make it very difficult."
Exceptions to self-isolation rules
There are exceptions for people who commute across the provincial border daily between home and work, such as employees of two chicken processing plants in Madawaska County near the Quebec borderThere are also exceptions for urgent work on "critical infrastructure" for which no New Brunswick workers are available, including telecommunications, transportation, data, fuel, electricity, manufacturing, water and wastewater, health and financial systems.
Premier Blaine Higgs's suggestion that out of province workers would be screened to determine if a worker in the province could do the job instead is not something any government department can dictate. (Government of New Brunswick/Submitted)
The
moves to accommodate employers in the construction sector are a
contrast to the total ban on new temporary foreign workers coming in to
fill vacancies on farms and in seafood processing plants.
That ban was imposed despite farm groups and seafood processors insisting that they were prepared to isolate their foreign workers for the 14 days to comply with Public Health rules.
Earlier this spring Ottawa announced $50 million to help farmers and agri-food businesses safely add foreign workers to their plants.
Despite that, Higgs declared last month that having more foreign workers enter the province would present a risk of new coronavirus transmission.
He proposed at the time that some foreign workers already in the province could be allowed to switch jobs to fill some of the farm and processing vacancies. The federal government announced this week it was simplifying the procedure to allow them to do that.
15 out-of-province workers needed in Saint John
Companies planning to bring in out-of-province workers say they'll be able to comply with the provincial rules.Quebec-based Pomerleau Inc., one of the general contractors on the $205-million modernization of the Port of Saint John, said it needs to bring about 15 people from outside New Brunswick to the project, most of them in administrative roles.
"We are working with Worksafe NB and the local health authorities to ensure we provide a safe work environment to all our employees and partners," said Debby Cordeiro, the company's vice-president of communications.
She said in an email statement the company has implemented "a vast array of rigorous sanitary measures" at its job sites and will follow all Public Health requirements.
J.D. Irving Ltd. spokesperson Mary Keith said the company will need only one specialized worker from outside the province among the 175 it will employ on an upcoming scheduled maintenance shutdown at its Lake Utopia mill.
She said no one in New Brunswick is certified to maintain the specialized equipment needed for the work.
"We are in communication with Worksafe NB to ensure full compliance" with the new guidelines that apply to the one out-of-province worker, Keith said.
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David Amos
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BINGO
David Amos
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Methinks Higgy is the waffle king N'esy Pas?
Cleve Gallant
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Reply to @David Amos: Me thinks Dr,Phil is looking for new clients N’esy Pas?
David Amos
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Reply to @Cleve
Gallant: Methinks you should apply ASAP because I suspect many more of
your crybaby cohorts will respond your news However I doubt Higgy et al
will allow Medicare to pay the Yankee his fees N'esy Pas?
A TROLL NAMED HIMSELF THE GREAT GATSBY THEN CAME BACK AS A FRIEND OF THE JOKER AND BATMAN
Jay Gatsby
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We need to keep our borders strong. The economic payout will come this fall or during a second wave when our economy can keep moving and not have to deal with he fallout.
We need to keep our borders strong. The economic payout will come this fall or during a second wave when our economy can keep moving and not have to deal with he fallout.
David Amos
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Reply to @Jay Gatsby: Dream on
Reply to @Jay Gatsby: Dream on
Jay Gatsby
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Reply to @David Amos: I don't like to cast aspersions, but I do have a feeling that had Higgs not had borders and instead had let it run loose, you'd be blaming him for Covid-19 being bad here. A lot of your positions seem to be based on personal vendettas against certain politicians and not based on the actual merit of the policies. If someone you didn't like said it was sunny, you'd say it was raining just because they were the one who said it was sunny. Just my opinion.
Reply to @David Amos: I don't like to cast aspersions, but I do have a feeling that had Higgs not had borders and instead had let it run loose, you'd be blaming him for Covid-19 being bad here. A lot of your positions seem to be based on personal vendettas against certain politicians and not based on the actual merit of the policies. If someone you didn't like said it was sunny, you'd say it was raining just because they were the one who said it was sunny. Just my opinion.
David Amos
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Reply to @Jay Gatsby: Say Hey to Higgy and the RCMP or me Will Ya?
Reply to @Jay Gatsby: Say Hey to Higgy and the RCMP or me Will Ya?
Rick Grayson
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Reply to @David Amos: and of course you have no real response to the valid point that was made “methinks, n’esy pas”
David Amos
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Reply to @Rick Grayson: Methinks there is no need to respond to a desperate spindoctor who keeps changing his ID N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Rick Grayson: Methinks there is no need to respond to a desperate spindoctor who keeps changing his ID N'esy Pas?
June Arnott
Irving runs the province and always gets what they want.
David Amos
Reply to @June Arnott: Cry me a river
Anne Crocker
OK...I fail to understand why NB will not permit non-NB essential workers to be hired to work in sectors that actually FEED New Brunswickers and support our provincial and national economy(with employers prepared to abide by quarantine requirements)... but we can employ construction workers from wherever!!!...discretion requires at least some consistency and I do not see any consistency in this policy.
David Amos
Reply to @Anne Crocker: Methinks you should go back to the law library and pull some books of the shelf N'esy Pas?
Dave Corbin
Call the practice in New Brunswick our contribution to Quebec's economic stimulus. Also Higgs needs to learn about laws governing files before rashly speaking out.
David Amos
Reply to @Dave Corbin: Well put
Mack Leigh
On the subject of outside workers , does anyone know who got the government contract to build the new bridge going over the Shediac River ? Part of Gallant's twinning Hwy 11 project.... They have been working in all sorts of weather for at least 7 months on that one bridge with at least a dozen workers and enough equipment to sink the Titanic... Now working weekends as well...
David Amos
Reply to @Mack Leigh:
Methinks I can guess I bet it is one Trudeau the Younger's and his
buddy Leblanc's favourite companies based in Quebec N'esy Pas?
David Peters
Reply to @Mack Leigh:
There's a YouTube video of the Chinese building a bridge in 48 hrs...
Claude DeRoche
Great idea ban temporary foreign workers who are not "stealing our jobs"
and let Québec workers in as we can't work in Québec!
and let Québec workers in as we can't work in Québec!
David Amos
Reply to @Claude DeRoche: Go Figure why the opposition is saying nothing much
Chantal LeBouthi
It’s isn’t Higgs only don’t forget the pandemic tasks force included all political party
NB as a minority government we know Higgs love to take the spotlight
David Amos
Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi: Oh So True
Archie Levesque
Reply
to @Chantal LeBouthi: Does he? So are you saying the same about
Trudeau? Canada is in a minority & we know Justin loves the
spotlight
Toby Tolly:
Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi: how do you know what its saying
Chantal LeBouthi
Reply to @Archie Levesque:
What are you talking about
Toby Tolly:
Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi: how do you know what its saying
Chantal LeBouthi
Reply to @Archie Levesque:
What are you talking about
Chantal LeBouthi
If Irving want outside employees they will
David Amos
Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi: Yup
Robert L. Brown
Our politicians doing the soft shoe shuffle a total disgrace to the taxpayers who elected them
David Amos
Reply to @Robert L. Brown: I concur
DJ Redfern
In general i support what the Govt. is doing to keep us safe in NB but something about imported construction workers dosn't sound right to me......
With the whole Province operating under emergency measures what makes the Saint John waterfront improvementa and the Irving mill at Lake Utopia "priority projects"
If any project is a priority it's the farmers getting planting started and the fish processing going...
It may not be too late to get the foreign workers in and definitely not to late to bar imported construction workers....
How about that Mr. Higgs?
David Amos
Reply to @DJ Redfern: Methinks you got the government you deserve N'esy Pas?
John Grail
Higgs et al. seem to be making rules arbitrarily
David Amos
Reply to @John Grail: Methinks Higgy et al must notice that some folks are reading my words N'esy Pas?
Rick Grayson
Reply to @David Amos: just to make fun of you methinks, n’esy pas
David Amos
Reply to @Rick Grayson: Methinks you are confused as to who you wish to be today but the RCMP should not be N'esy Pas?
Rick Grayson
Reply to @David Amos: What does the even mean? Your rebuttals have no relevance to
99% of the conversations.
What do the RCMP have to do with your assertion that our premier will notice that people are reading your words? Nothing, absolutely nothing. I firmly believe that your posts are entertainment for most. You have painted a clear picture of your issue with authority.
Rick Grayson
Reply to @David Amos: What does the even mean? Your rebuttals have no relevance to
99% of the conversations.
What do the RCMP have to do with your assertion that our premier will notice that people are reading your words? Nothing, absolutely nothing. I firmly believe that your posts are entertainment for most. You have painted a clear picture of your issue with authority.
Laurie
Clark
Gee, I wonder what
billionaire family has a construction company that wants qualified
workers but doesn't want to train any of them?
Larry Larson
Reply to @Laurie Clark: Is that a rhetorical question?
Rob Mason
Reply to @Laurie
Clark: you did note that Irving said they only needed one worker from
outside NB. I know you have an extreme bias but at lease recognize the
facts.
David Amos
Reply to @Rob Mason: How many foreign folks did the Irving Clan move into Chipman at our expense?
Laurie
Clark
Time for anon-confidence vote to get rid of Higgs! He gives useless a new meaning!
Mack Leigh
Reply to @Laurie
Clark: Higgs and his PC's along with the cooperation of Kris Austin
and the People's Alliance are doing a great job, all things
considered.... Just imagine the mess we would be in if Vickers and his
Liberal cohorts ever got back in or better yet if our fearless leader
was none other than Kevin Arseneau....Things could be worse - much, much
worse.
Rob Mason
Reply to @: I disagree, Mr. Higgs has done a great job guiding us. Imagine if
we had the tennis instructor still at the helm, at least the Premier
has business and life experience.
David Amos
Reply to @Laurie Clark: I concur
Archie Levesque
Reply
to @Laurie Clark: So are you getting rid of the other leaders as well?
There is an all-party committee making these decisions
Billy Joe Mcallister
There is no trade that can't be apprenticed. We should only allow trades people in if there is a shortage and only then for the purpose of apprenticing or training a New Brunswick resident to do the job.
David Amos
Reply to @Billy Joe
Mcallister: Methinks political scientists should be apprenticed instead
of being merely politically vetted N'esy Pas?
Archie Levesque
If they are allowing
the free flow of workers in from Quebec & Ontario then they may as
well start letting all the cottagers in too.
David Amos
Reply to @Archie Levesque: Of Course
Methinks its ridiculous that they are some the taxpayers supporting Higgy's Police State which is locking them out and yet the opposition says nothing N'esy Pas?
Methinks its ridiculous that they are some the taxpayers supporting Higgy's Police State which is locking them out and yet the opposition says nothing N'esy Pas?
Rick Grayson
Reply to @David Amos:
here you go with your police state conspiracy theory and you nickname
for our premier. Methinks you may just have an issue with authority,
n’esy pas
Gerry Ferguson
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks you are RIGHT on this one, David N'esy Pas?
People should not be charged property tax on a camp they cannot enjoy.
Gerry Ferguson
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks you are RIGHT on this one, David N'esy Pas?
People should not be charged property tax on a camp they cannot enjoy.
Paul Bourgoin
If your name starts
with an "I" in New Brunswick, all doors are open while our New
Brunswickers residents stand in line waiting to qualify!
David Amos
Reply to @Paul Bourgoin: C'est Vrai
Mack Leigh
And yet they do not
allow the Temporary Foreign Workers in to help our farmers and seafood
processors... Makes absolutely no sense.
David Amos
Reply to @Mack Leigh: Methinks politicking does not have to make sense within Higgy's Police State N'esy Pas?
Rick Grayson
Reply to @David Amos: bud you are like a broken record always saying the same things
Mack Leigh
We should be ensuring
that the people of New Brunswick are considered first for all jobs in
this province. Also we should not allow any Quebecer to work here in NB
as there is no reciprocal agreement and they will not let NBers work in
their province.
Theo
Lavigne
Reply to @Mack Leigh:
What if Alberta did the same in their province, what would become of
all the New Brunswickers working there?be careful what you wish...
David Amos
Reply to @Mack Leigh: I agree
Mack Leigh
Reply to @Theo
Lavigne: Alberta is in a reciprocal position with other provinces with
the exception of Quebec.. An individual from Alberta has absolutely no
problem with working in NB... Suggest you do a little research before
spouting off, my friend.
Theo Lavigne
Reply to @Mack Leigh: BS . For your information Quebec workers are in Alberta I worked in Alberta and many of them worked there FYI.
Theo Lavigne
Reply to @Mack Leigh: BS . For your information Quebec workers are in Alberta I worked in Alberta and many of them worked there FYI.
David Peters
Centralized planning
has failed, which was predictable and inevitable. Break up the
monopolies and let the marketplace sort this out.
David Amos
Reply to @David Peters: Yup
Terry Tibbs
Mr Higgs at his best: all "talk", but can't just seem to get around to following through.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: True
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks if one talks of Higgy the Waffle King and first you are attacked and then it all goes "Poof" However as usual I was quick on the draw and Twitter proves what I say is true N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks if one talks of Higgy the Waffle King and first you are attacked and then it all goes "Poof" However as usual I was quick on the draw and Twitter proves what I say is true N'esy Pas?
Jeff Smith
OK were being herded
around like school children now in supermarkets - but governments don't
"dictate hiring"? Cut off all disease vectors or all our hard work is
for nothing and I don't see the point of following all these annoying
rules.
David Amos
Reply to @Jeff Smith: "I don't see the point of following all these annoying rules."
Nor I
Nor I
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