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Friday, 17 June 2022
Rapid development raises concerns about fate of Fredericton's heritage buildings
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fredericton-heritage-development-tension-1.6489278
Rapid development raises concerns about fate of Fredericton's heritage buildings
Fredericton Heritage Trust says about 2,000 historically significant buildings have no heritage protection
Staff at city hall are set to embark on a two-year project to plot a path for how the downtown gets developed, known as the south core plan.
That work comes as city council adopted its affordable housing strategy, which lays out recommendations, including allowing developers to create four to six-unit buildings in the urban core without special approvals.
But before any of those plans get implemented, the city needs to do a broad review of how it preserves historically significant buildings, or risk having them drastically altered or destroyed, according to Jeremy Mouat, president of Fredericton Heritage Trust.
"There's a ton of development and a lot of the sort of large development areas have now had their future mapped out.
"And in this context, we really would like to see some sort of review to establish how effective the heritage program has been and are there ways to ensure its effectiveness going forward as we basically lose a fair bit of empty space to development downtown?"
Mouat is also one of five council-appointed board members on the Heritage Preservation Review Board, which ensures the city's heritage preservation bylaw is being followed.
However, only about 300 structures have official heritage status or are part of the St. Anne's Point Heritage Area, and therefore protected by the bylaw.
Some buildings on St. John Street were constructed in the mid-19th century, yet don't fall within the St. Anne's Point Heritage Preservation Area and therefore aren't protected. (Aidan Cox/CBC)
That means the board has little to no say in any modifications or renovations done to the roughly 2,000 other buildings across the city that he says have historical significance.
That includes St. John Street, with its mix of brightly coloured, tightly packed homes that hark back to the development style of the mid-19th century.
"Lots of streetscapes, in our view, need protection," Mouat said. "I mean, if you walk around where I live on St. John Street, down Charlotte Street, Needham, lots of other places, you see charming streetscapes that are the envy of lots of other cities in Canada.
"And what we're anxious about is the fate of these streetscapes, as development pressures are going to pick up, particularly in terms of the need to densify housing and to add on and, you know, subdivide more and more of the older buildings into apartments."
Mouat said his group isn't opposed to the buildings being renovated and used for apartments, "but we're anxious that ultimately that's going to lead to, to wear and tear that would ultimately lead to, to demolition."
Mouat says some homes on Needham Street are historically significant but don't have any heritage protections. (Aidan Cox/CBC)
Request brought before councillors
On Monday, Doug Wright, chair of the heritage board, made a presentation to Fredericton city council on the group's work since 2021 and recommended council "establish a comprehensive heritage program review" to ensure it aligns with provincial regulations and council priorities.
"It would offer an opportunity for council to consider the broad heritage program in the light of the rapid development now occurring in Fredericton," Wright said.
His recommendation led to a motion by Coun. Margo Sheppard to direct city staff to undertake a heritage program review, including design guideline recommendations and potential amendments to the heritage bylaw prior to the south core plan being done.
The motion generated discussion among councillors, with some in support, and other against it.
Coun. Jason Lejeune said it's important to put the heritage review ahead of the south core plan being done.
"I think getting this done will inform a lot of our work to be done under the south core plan and it's important to get it done ahead of that time primarily to avoid any unintended consequences that could come down the road," he said.
Coun. Bruce Grandy said he couldn't support the motion, noting that staff indicated they were already busy with getting the south core plan done.
"They're tasked with a great load at this particular moment in time. Not only that, the construction and permitting that's going on and the amount of development that's happening," Grandy said.
"If it was a staff recommendation I certainly would support it but understanding what I just asked previous, and the work that they're involved in with the limited staff, I won't support the motion."
The motion was defeated 7-4, but councillors agreed to have the issue sent to the economic vitality committee for further consideration.
Dwindling heritage stock
If a property owner wants to tear down a building with historical significance, council has the opportunity to step in and grant it heritage status.
However, councillors still voted in 2019 against giving heritage status to the Risteen building, effectively giving the developer who owned it the right to tear it down.
Sheppard said with the city set to grow in population, and housing needs to continue growing, she fears more buldings will meet the same fate.
The Risteen building was demolished in 2019 after councillors voted against granting it status under the heritage preservation bylaw. (Mike Heenan/CBC)
"Being the capital city, as Fredericton is, we really need to be cognizant that, that our heritage is, is dwindling," Sheppard said.
"We have many heritage buildings that are not protected in any way. Some have national significance, some have provincial significance, and, you know, we can we can decide that we want to create an environment where people want to keep heritage buildings."
Sheppard said a broad review of the city's heritage strategy could result in incentives from the city to encourage property owners to preserve a building's defining features.
A review could also result in more buildings being better recognized for their heritage value, she said.
"The [heritage] preservation bylaw hasn't really resulted in too too many neighbourhoods being designated for one reason or another.
"And, you know, maybe it's time we took a look at the, at that process and also look at other things that have been over the last 20 years or so ... recommended but never acted upon."
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The Trust has launched many successful endeavours over the years, including walking tour booklets of both Fredericton and Marysville and a restoration guidebook to Fredericton's residential architecture.
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Margo Sheppard, Fredericton City Councillor for Ward 1
Ellen Wilson Messenger, B.Ed., M.Sc (Aud), Heritage Home Owner
Monika Berenyi, Lawyer, McInnes Cooper
Bronwyn Coates Bonney, Student Intervention Coordinator, Student Services, UNB
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Richard Bird, Retired Professor of Law, UNB
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Barbara Hughes Campbell, Q.C., Lawyer & Heritage Home Owner
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Subject: YO Marcus Kingston I just called but you were too busy having coffee
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However I did tell what I was up to Correct?
Perhaps Chucky Lebalnc and his cohorts will take up your battles with
Fat Fred City with his buddy Premier Blaine Higgs and Hon. Robert
Gauvin in particular N'esy Pas?
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Tuesday
Dec13 2011
North Start bar sold to Gabriel El-Zayat for $400,000. Plans more than
66 apartment units!!!!
thought on “North Start bar sold to Gabriel El-Zayat for $400,000.
Plans more than 66 apartment units!!!!”
December 14, 2011 at 3:17 pm
Triumph26 said:
Isn't it great that this Smart City we live in sold this club for
$125,000 less than they paid to a known slum landlord. There were
several other solutions to this issue.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/risteen-heritage-fredericton-1.4993884
Fate of 1820s stone building in Fredericton causes worry
Owner wants to put up new apartments on property in downtown Fredericton
Concern is growing for an old stone building in downtown Fredericton, once the home of a thriving woodworking factory and now possibly headed for demolition.
The Risteen building at the corner of Queen and Smythe streets, the first cut stone building in New Brunswick, could be torn down to make way for a new development.
Gabriel Elzayat says he wants to put apartments on the property.
The prospect saddens Carl Risteen, great-grandson of Joseph Risteen, who took the building over in the 1870s.
"This building here is the cornerstone basically of Queen Street, so it's the first house in Queen Street," Risteen said.
He still lives in the house that his great-grandfather built adjacent to the building.
It was built in the 1820s by Anthony Lockwood, surveyor general of New Brunswick. When Joseph Ristine took it over, he created the Risteen Sash and Door factory.
"My great-grandfather bought the burned-out shell in about 1870 or thereabouts and fixed up the interior and built the big extension on the back — the big wooden part on the back — for his woodworking factory," Risteen said.
The products of that factory can still be found in the finishings and doorways of the New Brunswick Legislature, said Risteen.
He said he's not sure whether the building will be torn down or salvaged, but he's open to ideas about incorporating it into his new development.
The city said it hasn't received an application for development yet, but tenants are already on the move.
Ross Davidson, whose kitchen supply shop has been in the building for decades, has been told to vacate by the end of February.
"We got a notice from our landlord that the property was going to be redeveloped and that was it," Davidson said.
Heritage enthusiast Marcus Kingston wants to find a way to save it.
"It's been sitting on the spot for … nearly 200 years and it deserves to stay," he said.
Despite its history, there's no heritage designation to protect the Risteen building, which means developers are free to do whatever they want with it.
Commenting is now closed for this story.
Shawn McShane
Johnny Horton
He has a bad habit of letting leases expiring and then telling you to get out, a kids any calls or visits to his office she discuss your lease.
** avoids (not a kids)
Ken Stephens
Yep value. That’s all that matters. Gotta Aximize that tax base!
yep money, that’s all that matters. Gotta own every property!
Respectfully
MK
Mack Leigh
Gabriel is buying up and taking all the land in the area. Not much chance he’ll save it, or sell it t a preservation group.
Mack Leigh
There are ways to preserve our historical buildings and turn them into money makers.... Erasing our historical buildings is a sad statement as to what society has become and the direction it is headed..
Alex Butt
Methinks we got the governments we deserve because we overslept N'esy Pas?
Methinks the Irving Clan didn't cry N'esy Pas?
Now Go Figure Who is crazy and who is not
http://www.biographi.ca/en/bio/lockwood_anthony_8E.html
However, the political crisis following Lieutenant Governor Smyth’s death on 27 March provided the occasion, if not the inducement, for Lockwood’s spectacular descent into madness.
An interim president of the Council being required, George Leonard*, the octogenarian senior member, was first offered the position, which he declined on the grounds of age. Despite a challenge by supporters of Christopher Billopp, Ward Chipman* assumed the post of administrator on 1 April. The challenges continued however. Lockwood attended the Council meetings on 30 April and on 1 May. Thereafter he absented himself and for the next few weeks his whereabouts are uncertain. By 24 May he had persuaded Leonard to assert his right to the presidency “in the hope that it would produce tranquillity in the province.” Ostensibly to assist in that purpose, Lockwood appointed himself as Leonard’s civil aide-de-camp and inspecting field officer, as well as acting secretary. On 25 May he attempted to disseminate Leonard’s proclamation in Saint John – while at the same time writing a letter to Chipman offering terms for his, Lockwood’s, support. From 25 to 30 May Lockwood behaved with erratic violence in Saint John: issuing threats, brawling, taking up residence in Government House, and gathering an appreciative mob. Dr Paddock attended him with scant success. By the time he returned to Fredericton on 30 May, Lockwood was approaching collapse; on the steamboat General Smyth he scribbled a desperate note to Chipman requesting release from his present public offices since his “ailment” was “subject to increase from confinement.”
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@Grant Buote continued
The Council considered Lockwood’s state of mind at their meeting on 31 May, hearing depositions from the doctors who had treated him and from the mayor of Saint John. The following day Lockwood set up a table in Fredericton square, at which he drank coffee, issued proclamations, and reacted pugnaciously to the crowd, before taking horse and riding about the streets firing pistols and declaring himself called to assume the government of the province. By nightfall Lockwood had been arrested and placed in the Fredericton jail. The Council received further evidence from the sheriff of York County on 2 June and were “fully satisfied” of Lockwood’s derangement. Chipman appointed a commission de lunatico inquirendo that day and by 5 June it had determined that Lockwood was legally mad, and had been since 19 May. On 7 June his wife and son petitioned for a committee of custody over his person and estate, which was immediately granted.
When George Shore, Lockwood’s replacement, examined the surveyor general’s office, he found confusion, mutilated documents, and disarray which would take “two extra employees five years to straighten out.” Furthermore, the discrepancy between Lockwood’s receipts as receiver general and the office’s bank deposit amounted to more than £2,000. Although he was moved from the jail to what was, in effect, house-arrest in September, Lockwood and his family had to suffer the public sale of his real and personal estate as the custodial committee sought to recover the missing public monies.
Methinks history can repeat itself The province has seized control of the Lockwood house before N'esy Pas?
http://www.biographi.ca/en/bio/lockwood_anthony_8E.html
The following day Lockwood set up a table in Fredericton square, at which he drank coffee, issued proclamations, and reacted pugnaciously to the crowd, before taking horse and riding about the streets firing pistols and declaring himself called to assume the government of the province. By nightfall Lockwood had been arrested and placed in the Fredericton jail. The Council received further evidence from the sheriff of York County on 2 June and were “fully satisfied” of Lockwood’s derangement. Chipman appointed a commission de lunatico inquirendo that day and by 5 June it had determined that Lockwood was legally mad, and had been since 19 May. On 7 June his wife and son petitioned for a committee of custody over his person and estate, which was immediately granted.
When George Shore, Lockwood’s replacement, examined the surveyor general’s office, he found confusion, mutilated documents, and disarray which would take “two extra employees five years to straighten out.” Furthermore, the discrepancy between Lockwood’s receipts as receiver general and the office’s bank deposit amounted to more than £2,000. Although he was moved from the jail to what was, in effect, house-arrest in September, Lockwood and his family had to suffer the public sale of his real and personal estate as the custodial committee sought to recover the missing public monies.
Emilien Forest
Finally someone with my sense of humor...now watch we'll get bumped
Louie Youssef
Why should anyone have the right to dictate what all future generations do with private property? There are people around who just love to have a cause to champion, and that's fair. But when someone spends their time, money and energy taking a risk on something, it's not right to try and change the rules of the game, mid game. If tearing down old, inefficient, obsolete buildings was prevented, New York city would never have been built.
It's called progress. Getting rid of something to build something better, that will provide badly needed housing, shouldn't be discouraged.
Well said!
If city planners in Fredericton had had their way in the 1960's/70's then the entirety of Queen Street including City Hall would have been demolished. How would this have benefited Fredericton in the long run? Are you aware of how many tour busses stop outside of City Hall on any given day in the summer months?
Last summer we lost two 'beautiful' yellow homes on Regent Street, heritage homes that could have easily been saved, when there was an open lot just up the street on the corner of Charlotte and Regent. Tourists will be less and less inclined to visit Fredericton if we keep erasing it's past. I'm all for 'progress ' as you say, however progress isn't always 'moving forward'. I welcome new builds, many of us do, but why can they not be built on existing lots that are already vacant? Or put in places that do not already have historic structures.
Heritage should belong to us all, not simply those who can afford to own it.
If I had had $7,000,000 then I would have purchased all of these properties and saved them. However only a few people can afford to do such things. I'm sure no one jumped on these purchases because no one would have assumed that a buyer would demolish them. St. Dunstan's was turned into apartments as was York House, restoration is possible, you can mix old and new.
Respectfully,
MK
Now 16 families will be able to live where previously 3 could. You take a very simplistic view of development. It's not up to just one person to say "oh, there's some vacant property, I think I'll have it and build something". That's not how it works. Not everything can be saved, for both practical and financial reasons.
Cities are growing, and everyone has a right to live in them. Just because a few people think something is pretty, it doesn't mean that saving that house, and denying many others the right to live in a city is the best thing to do. It's not right to target a specific development that doesn't have any restrictions of demolition on it after the fact. That's a policy that needs to be in place before investment is made.
I'm against it, but I respect what the majority says. That's how a democratic society works.
Those memories are important to the people who made them. Beauty is subjective. Some people may like old architecture, some people may like contemporary. There is no right or wrong. To me, people should be able to do what they like with private property, while respecting the laws that are in place.
As far as pollution, wetlands, etc, I'm not sure why that's part of this commentary. But that's your right.
Dundonald Street area property owners say they have enough apartments on their street and they don't want another...Elzayat said he will make two-bedroom units to entice families. "A single family home or an apartment, they're family dwellings. Maybe you should change your thinking on that." - May 20th, 2010
@Louie Youssef wrote
The problem is that what we are building may be newer, but is not always better. Nor is it even significantly more efficient. Very few of the apartment buildings erected in the City in the past 25 years will see a 100th birthday let alone 200.
With respect to the Risteen Building (Significance of the original portion of the building being it was the first cut stone building in the City (perhaps province) and was the home of New Brunswick's first Surveyor General), I understand Gabriel's conundrum. I had looked at this building (and the surrounding properties) a year or two earlier with the intention of incorporating the Lockwood house into a Passivhaus mixed-use complex, but, in the end, could not reduce the risk sufficiently to move forward.
Colin Seeley
To the people who are calling this building a “heritage building” – if that is so, why does it not have a designation? Shouldn’t that be your avenue, trying to get a designation, rather than badmouthing law-abiding property owners?
To those who object to building higher density housing, shouldn’t your avenue be to change the zoning bylaws if you want to prevent more apartments in the city, not bashing property owners who are not breaking any rules?
And finally, what makes any of you authorities on what has value and what doesn’t? Your own opinion? Because it doesn’t seem like it is backed by any democratic process.
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David R. Amos
In a nutshell Carl said that his home is considered a heritage home and he can't change the colour of even a shingle with Fat Fred City's permission and that the reports of people trying to buy it are pure BS. I told him that he should register with CBC and tell the folks himself Carl said he can't be bothered and was going for a walk and gave me his permission to state this.
Something smells
Ray Bungay
Bob Smith
Robert Gauvin as Minister of Tourism, Heritage and Culture should step up to the plate and classify it a "historic building" It is located in the Capital District N'esy Pas?
Some of us are doing just that.
Trevis L. Kingston
1492...was the starting date of 4 sided structures as we know them on this continent.
A 200 year old structure here is socially as valuable as a 2000 year old Italian Cathedral.
Canadians travel to the four corners of the world to see what?....old buildings !
But we will never have any for tourists to see if we tear them all down.
People pay good money to see Kings Landing and the Acadian Village. (1783 plus.)
Fredericton...the City of Stately...apartment buildings?
Methinks Mayor Mikey and his cohorts no doubt like the sound of that Perhaps they will change Fat Fred City's slogan N'esy Pas?
Shawn McShane
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