David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Methinks Elgin Fire Chief Kent Steeves has a point about cell phone towers N'esy Pas Martine Turcotte???
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/cell-service-albert-county-fire-department-1.4759135
David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
"Almost $368 million in Connect to Innovate money has been approved for service providers in all provinces and territories but New Brunswick & Prince Edward Island" GO FIGURE Nesy Pas?
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 13:17:41 -0400
Subject: Methinks Elgin Fire Chief Kent Steeves has a point about cell phone towers
N'esy Pas Martine Turcotte???
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Do tell does anyone recall this comment section within CBC?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/ canada/new-brunswick/fundy- royal-riding-profile-1.3274276
The Office of the Fire Marshal
Phone: 1-506-453-2004
Fire-Feu@gnb.ca
ALEXANDRA DAVIS
Corporate Communications (Unit)
Justice and Public Safety
Phone : (506) 453-2994
Email : Alexandra.Davis@gnb.ca
Isabelle Boulet
506-457-5554 or
1-888-482-0809
mediarelations@bellaliant.ca
Gérard Belliveau, Executive Director
Gerard.belliveau@nbse.ca
Joshua Adams, Planner
Joshua.adams@nbse.ca
1234 Main Street
2nd floor, Unit 200
Moncton, NB, E1C 1H7
T: 506-382-5386
ALMA ILLAGE OFFICE
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Alma, NB, E4H 1L2
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Do tell does anyone recall this comment section within CBC?
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Fundy Royal campaign targets middle class with focus on jobs
Fundy Royal voters have elected Conservatives all but 1 time in 28 elections over 101 years
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David Amos
Anybody bother to notice I am
the only person posting here with a real name and it is the same name
that is on the ballot in Fundy Royal? Do ya think the lawyer Rob Moore "The True Conservative" or any of the others would dare to debate me in writing with their true name within a website funded by the taxpayer and controlled by questionable public servants? How about outside the CROWN"s domain within the Yankee website called Twitter? That is where I play very serious Political Hard Ball. See for yourself or ask Rob Moore's hero Stevey Boy Harper if I am a liar or not.
https://twitter.com/DavidRayAmos/with_replies
David Amos
I must Say I am rather
impressed at CBC's sudden fit of Integrity to allow my posts to stand
the test of time for a few hours at least. (: Rest assured that I have
been saving digital snapshots just in case they delete and block me as
usual :) In return here is an old scoop about CTV that CBC and everybody else and his dog has been ignoring for 11 very long years after I ran in the election of the 38th Parliament against the aptly named lawyer Rob Moore.
http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/08/re-bce-and-jean-pierre-blais-of-crtc.html
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From: martine.turcotte@bell.ca
To: motomaniac_02186@hotmail.com
Cc: bcecomms@bce.ca ; W-Five@ctv.ca
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 9:28 AM
Subject: RE: I am curious
Mr. Amos, I confirm that I have received your documentation. There is
no need to send us a hard copy. As you have said yourself, the
documentation is very voluminous and after 3 days, we are still in the
process of printing it. I have asked one of my lawyers to review it
in my absence and report back to me upon my return in the office. We
will then provide you with a reply.
Martine Turcotte
Chief Legal Officer / Chef principal du service juridique
BCE Inc. / Bell Canada
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Poor cellphone service a safety issue for rural areas, MP says
Emergency responders say paltry cell service puts them and public at risk
A
member of Parliament is trying to find a solution to the lack of
cellphone service in parts of the province after a New Brunswick fire
chief expressed concern over public safety.
"We've evolved so quickly as a society from internet and cell service being a relatively new technology to being a crucial technology," said Alaina Lockhart, the Liberal MP for Fundy Royal.
Lockhart said she has been in talks with Kent Steeves, chief of the Elgin Fire Department, who has been lobbying for reliable cellphone coverage in Albert County for months.
Lockhart agreed.
Not only is cell coverage important for innovation and social inclusion, she said, it's also necessary for safety.
"This is an issue I hope we can work together and try to resolve," Lockhart said.
She said Ottawa recently announced the Connect to Innovate program, which will spend $500 million by 2021 to bring high-speed Internet to 300 rural and remote communities in Canada.
To date, according to the federal government website, almost $368 million in Connect to Innovate money has been approved for service providers in all provinces and territories but New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island.
Lockhart said government can't solve all the issues on its own and needs to be working alongside cellphone companies and discuss what's holding service back.
"Clearly, these companies operate with a business case, so because of the sparsity of uptake, the business case might not be there for them to proceed," she said.
"But
when we're talking about safety and social inclusion and innovation,
then I feel that's a place where government can co-operate to make sure
we provide a level of service to all of our citizens."
Steeves said he has been talking to Bell Canada about building onto a tower near Boyd Mountain.
The fire chief would not reveal how much it would cost to add to a cell tower but said it would be lower than the cost of a fire truck, which can range from $150,000 to $1 million.
Isabelle Boulet, a spokesperson with Bell Aliant, said the company doesn't have any announcements to make right now about "enhanced" service in Albert County.
Although Lockhart said cellphone coverage in rural areas has been discussed with the province, Steeves said the provincial government hasn't responded yet.
He's still hoping the province will help cover some of the costs of bringing cell service to Albert County.
Alexandra Davis, a spokesperson for New Brunswick's Department of Public Safety, said about 60 per cent of 911 calls come from cellular phones.
"We recognize the benefit that the proliferation of cellular phones has had in allowing residents to call for help from more remote locations," she said.
She said cell services are delivered by the private sector, but the government works with service providers like Rogers and Bell to ensure they are aware of the priorities.
"We look forward to discussing this important issue and working with cellular service providers to develop a solution and better understand their future plans for the delivery of emergency services in this region," Davis said.
"We've evolved so quickly as a society from internet and cell service being a relatively new technology to being a crucial technology," said Alaina Lockhart, the Liberal MP for Fundy Royal.
Lockhart said she has been in talks with Kent Steeves, chief of the Elgin Fire Department, who has been lobbying for reliable cellphone coverage in Albert County for months.
- Elgin chief steps up call for cell service in Albert County
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Lockhart agreed.
Not only is cell coverage important for innovation and social inclusion, she said, it's also necessary for safety.
She said Ottawa recently announced the Connect to Innovate program, which will spend $500 million by 2021 to bring high-speed Internet to 300 rural and remote communities in Canada.
To date, according to the federal government website, almost $368 million in Connect to Innovate money has been approved for service providers in all provinces and territories but New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island.
Can't solve it alone
Lockhart said government can't solve all the issues on its own and needs to be working alongside cellphone companies and discuss what's holding service back.
"Clearly, these companies operate with a business case, so because of the sparsity of uptake, the business case might not be there for them to proceed," she said.
Steeves said he has been talking to Bell Canada about building onto a tower near Boyd Mountain.
Chief gets little response
The fire chief would not reveal how much it would cost to add to a cell tower but said it would be lower than the cost of a fire truck, which can range from $150,000 to $1 million.
Isabelle Boulet, a spokesperson with Bell Aliant, said the company doesn't have any announcements to make right now about "enhanced" service in Albert County.
Although Lockhart said cellphone coverage in rural areas has been discussed with the province, Steeves said the provincial government hasn't responded yet.
He's still hoping the province will help cover some of the costs of bringing cell service to Albert County.
Province suggests it's aware
Alexandra Davis, a spokesperson for New Brunswick's Department of Public Safety, said about 60 per cent of 911 calls come from cellular phones.
"We recognize the benefit that the proliferation of cellular phones has had in allowing residents to call for help from more remote locations," she said.
She said cell services are delivered by the private sector, but the government works with service providers like Rogers and Bell to ensure they are aware of the priorities.
"We look forward to discussing this important issue and working with cellular service providers to develop a solution and better understand their future plans for the delivery of emergency services in this region," Davis said.
Elgin chief steps up call for cell service in Albert County
Despite petition, Kent Steeves says province hasn't been too response to calls for help
A
fire chief in rural Albert County is continuing to lobby the province
for help getting reliable cellphone coverage in the area, and is now
pressing Bell Canada to expand one of its towers.
Kent Steeves, chief of the Elgin Fire Department, said the government has not been responsive but he hasn't given up hope it will help cover some of the costs of bringing cellphone service to this part of southeastern New Brunswick.
Steeves said emergency crews and the people they're trying to help are at a disadvantage because service is spotty or non-existent.
"It's extremely frustrating and disheartening when you don't know sometimes where to start and what the best options are to go and getting that person," he said.
"Those give us more opportunities to get there quicker and get the resources there faster," Steeves said of cellphones.
"We have absolutely no cell service. You might hit the odd pocket here and there, but very seldom do you ever get anything more than a bar and very seldom do you get that."
The fire chief said he has been talking to Bell Canada about building onto a tower near Boyd Mountain.
Isabelle Boulet, a spokesperson with Bell Aliant, said the company doesn't have any announcements to make right now about enhanced service in Albert County.
In the spring, a petition calling on the province to take an interest in the problem gathered 300 signatures. The province has also received 30 letters from businesses, including Irving Woodlands and Corridor Resources.
"We keep lobbying the government and asking them to consider the livelihood and the lives and well-being of their constituents that live in our area," Steeves said.
"We've seen a lot of money promised and spent in many different areas. [I'm] not saying that all those areas are not important, but many of them certainly don't save lives."
CBC News asked the province to respond but has not heard back.
Steeves said the lack of cell service could even put firefighters at risk responding to car crashes, especially those involving electric and hybrid vehicles.
If they had cell service, they could use their iPhones and iPads in the fire truck to determine what lines to cut in a hybrid vehicle.
"If we cut into the main power supply of those vehicles, it's 400 volts, or how to extinguish those batteries is a different animal now than what we have with the conventional vehicles now," he said.
The fire chief would not reveal how much it would cost to add to a cell tower but said it would be lower than the cost of a fire truck, which can range from $150,000 to $1 million.
The Elgin area has many people working in the woods for forestry companies and is also popular with outdoor enthusiasts, he said.
But in emergencies where details are vague, volunteers with the Elgin Fire Department often have to call on surrounding first responders to help, he said.
People have had to drive long distances to knock on someone's house to get a landline or have come into the four corners of the community to reach someone at the fire department or use a pay phone.
"Usually, that has added a fair amount of time to those rescues," Steeves said.
Calls have come into 911 with one bar, and the last thing the operator heard was "we can see the windmills from here."
That covers a large territory, so Salisbury, Petitcodiac, Riverview have also had to respond so the area can be narrowed down.
"That's a big area to work off of."
Kent Steeves, chief of the Elgin Fire Department, said the government has not been responsive but he hasn't given up hope it will help cover some of the costs of bringing cellphone service to this part of southeastern New Brunswick.
Steeves said emergency crews and the people they're trying to help are at a disadvantage because service is spotty or non-existent.
"It's extremely frustrating and disheartening when you don't know sometimes where to start and what the best options are to go and getting that person," he said.
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"Those give us more opportunities to get there quicker and get the resources there faster," Steeves said of cellphones.
"We have absolutely no cell service. You might hit the odd pocket here and there, but very seldom do you ever get anything more than a bar and very seldom do you get that."
The fire chief said he has been talking to Bell Canada about building onto a tower near Boyd Mountain.
Isabelle Boulet, a spokesperson with Bell Aliant, said the company doesn't have any announcements to make right now about enhanced service in Albert County.
A need for cell service
In the spring, a petition calling on the province to take an interest in the problem gathered 300 signatures. The province has also received 30 letters from businesses, including Irving Woodlands and Corridor Resources.
"We keep lobbying the government and asking them to consider the livelihood and the lives and well-being of their constituents that live in our area," Steeves said.
"We've seen a lot of money promised and spent in many different areas. [I'm] not saying that all those areas are not important, but many of them certainly don't save lives."
CBC News asked the province to respond but has not heard back.
'A different animal'
Steeves said the lack of cell service could even put firefighters at risk responding to car crashes, especially those involving electric and hybrid vehicles.
If they had cell service, they could use their iPhones and iPads in the fire truck to determine what lines to cut in a hybrid vehicle.
"If we cut into the main power supply of those vehicles, it's 400 volts, or how to extinguish those batteries is a different animal now than what we have with the conventional vehicles now," he said.
The fire chief would not reveal how much it would cost to add to a cell tower but said it would be lower than the cost of a fire truck, which can range from $150,000 to $1 million.
Going the distance
The Elgin area has many people working in the woods for forestry companies and is also popular with outdoor enthusiasts, he said.
But in emergencies where details are vague, volunteers with the Elgin Fire Department often have to call on surrounding first responders to help, he said.
People have had to drive long distances to knock on someone's house to get a landline or have come into the four corners of the community to reach someone at the fire department or use a pay phone.
Little to work with
"Usually, that has added a fair amount of time to those rescues," Steeves said.
Calls have come into 911 with one bar, and the last thing the operator heard was "we can see the windmills from here."
That covers a large territory, so Salisbury, Petitcodiac, Riverview have also had to respond so the area can be narrowed down.
"That's a big area to work off of."
With files from Information Morning Moncton
Safety concern in the Elgin area
Information Morning - Moncton
Elgin's Fire Chief, Kent
Steeves, believes a cell phone tower for Albert County is needed for the
safety of residents and visitors.
Dicey 911 service pushes Elgin fire chief to call for cell tower
Chief to present petition to phone companies and provincial government in hopes of coverage for rural Elgin
The
fire chief in the rural community of Elgin is calling on the government
to insist cellphone companies provide service to Albert County
residents and visitors.
"Maybe they get one bar and get part of a call in to 911 and then lose it," Steeves told Information Morning Moncton. "And then we get a call from 911 that says, 'The last thing they said is that they can see the windmills,' but they can't give us much detail because they lost them.
"We are asking for one of the major carriers of cellphones in our province to invest in a cell tower to give us cell coverage within the Elgin parish and the Elgin area."
Steeves said in situations where details are vague, volunteers with the Elgin Fire Department often have to call on surrounding first responders to help.
"It tends to create a bit of havoc trying to rally resources to go find them," he said.
"Sometimes we have to even call in our mutual aid partners from Salisbury, Riverview, Petitcodiac to come and help us to try and find people, so we end up tying up a lot of resources for a lost telephone call."
Steeves said the Elgin area has many people working in the woods for forestry companies and is also very popular with outdoor enthusiasts.
"People are out on their four-wheelers, on their snowmobiles, or they're just out hiking or out enjoying our Pollett River ... they have no form of communication to get help if there's any problems."
So far about 300 people have signed the petition, and Steeves said he also has several letters of support from local businesses and outdoor groups who want improved cell service.
Bell spokesperson Isabelle Boulet wrote, "We don't have any immediate announcements about enhanced wireless coverage in Elgin, but we're always open to discuss funding partnerships with all levels of government to expand in areas that are unable to support only private investment by carriers like Bell or our competitors."
Heather Robinson, who speaks for Rogers, wrote, "We are always exploring opportunities to expand our network and always welcome conversations with local communities about improved coverage."
We don't have a lot of services in our area but they still take the taxes out ... so we're asking the government to push these companies to do something.- Kent Steeves, Elgin fire chiefKent Steeves knows of "numerous occasions" where people have been unable to call 911 or where service has been so spotty, first responders couldn't gather the information they needed.
"Maybe they get one bar and get part of a call in to 911 and then lose it," Steeves told Information Morning Moncton. "And then we get a call from 911 that says, 'The last thing they said is that they can see the windmills,' but they can't give us much detail because they lost them.
"We are asking for one of the major carriers of cellphones in our province to invest in a cell tower to give us cell coverage within the Elgin parish and the Elgin area."
Poor service taxes resources
Steeves said in situations where details are vague, volunteers with the Elgin Fire Department often have to call on surrounding first responders to help.
"It tends to create a bit of havoc trying to rally resources to go find them," he said.
"Sometimes we have to even call in our mutual aid partners from Salisbury, Riverview, Petitcodiac to come and help us to try and find people, so we end up tying up a lot of resources for a lost telephone call."
Steeves said the Elgin area has many people working in the woods for forestry companies and is also very popular with outdoor enthusiasts.
"People are out on their four-wheelers, on their snowmobiles, or they're just out hiking or out enjoying our Pollett River ... they have no form of communication to get help if there's any problems."
Petition growing
So far about 300 people have signed the petition, and Steeves said he also has several letters of support from local businesses and outdoor groups who want improved cell service.
Everybody carries a cellphone — very few have land lines. I believe the government should be forcing [the cell company's] hand or pushing to do a partnership with them.- Elgin Fire Chief Kent SteevesCBC News contacted Bell and Rogers to find out if either planned to add a cell tower.
Bell spokesperson Isabelle Boulet wrote, "We don't have any immediate announcements about enhanced wireless coverage in Elgin, but we're always open to discuss funding partnerships with all levels of government to expand in areas that are unable to support only private investment by carriers like Bell or our competitors."
Heather Robinson, who speaks for Rogers, wrote, "We are always exploring opportunities to expand our network and always welcome conversations with local communities about improved coverage."
Information Morning - Moncton
Fire fighters in Elgin are petitioning for installation of a cell tower in the area because emergency calls are often dropped.
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Steeves said he has also spoken to both companies but now plans to also put pressure on the provincial government.
"We don't have a lot of services in our area but they still take the taxes out... so we're asking the government to push these companies to do something and we're also asking these companies to step up to the plate and help out."
Alert Ready quiet in Albert
Steeves pointed to the recent Alert Ready test across Canada last week that saw smartphones buzzing.
In the Elgin area, the poor cellphone service meant only those connected to WiFi at the time of the emergency alert received the notice.
"It's just another situation where apparently the people that are in that area aren't going to matter, or they're not going to receive those calls and we'll have to fend for ourselves."
- Alert Ready to send emergency messages to smartphones
- Glitches reported as emergency alert testing resumes across Canada
"Everybody carries a cellphone — very few have land lines. I believe the government should be forcing [the cell companies'] hand or pushing to do a partnership with them."
http://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1234159171979
Fire fighters in Elgin are petitioning for installation of a cell tower in the area because emergency calls are often dropped.
Information Morning - Moncton
Kent Steeves is the Elgin Fire Chief.
Elgin faces critical shortage of volunteer firefighters
Nearly half of 22 volunteers are facing retirement
The
Elgin Fire Department is facing a critical shortage as nearly half of
the force's volunteers are close to retirement and there are not enough
younger people in the rural community stepping up to replace them.
The volunteer fire department protects roughly 2,500 residents in the southern New Brunswick community, which is about 60 kilometres south of Moncton.
Elgin Fire Chief Gary Steeves said the volunteer department has not been able to replace their aging force with new and younger recruits.
The problem, Steeves said, is many younger people, who would normally have joined the volunteer force, are not willing to commit to the hours and training required to do the job.
Steeves said that means older volunteer firefighters are continuing to do the job even if it is pushing them to their physical limits.
"I am scared. I see lots of guys out there lugging hoses and stuff that I know should not be doing it," Steeves said.
"But they are committed to doing this thing."
Nearly half of Elgin's 22 volunteer firefighters are over 60 years old and some can no longer physically perform all of their duties.
Capt. Winston Steeves, 69, said his days of running into a burning building weighed down with heavy air packs and rescue gear are over. He said his body just can't take that physical stress anymore.
"When you get all the equipment on and you are working under pressure, you know you could have a heart attack," he said.
The fire chief said the older firefighters are at risk if there is not a fully functioning fire crew in the community.
"If you have a huge fire and you've got guys maybe going down with heart problems and doing more than they should, that's always a concern of mine,:" Gary Steeves said.
He said the department's trying to recruit at least 10 new volunteers to ease the burden on the older firefighters.
Moncton's Regional Fire Centre says many rural fire departments across the province are in the same situation as Elgin and are struggling to recruit younger volunteers.
The volunteer fire department protects roughly 2,500 residents in the southern New Brunswick community, which is about 60 kilometres south of Moncton.
Elgin Fire Chief Gary Steeves said the volunteer department has not been able to replace their aging force with new and younger recruits.
The problem, Steeves said, is many younger people, who would normally have joined the volunteer force, are not willing to commit to the hours and training required to do the job.
Steeves said that means older volunteer firefighters are continuing to do the job even if it is pushing them to their physical limits.
"I am scared. I see lots of guys out there lugging hoses and stuff that I know should not be doing it," Steeves said.
"But they are committed to doing this thing."
Nearly half of Elgin's 22 volunteer firefighters are over 60 years old and some can no longer physically perform all of their duties.
Capt. Winston Steeves, 69, said his days of running into a burning building weighed down with heavy air packs and rescue gear are over. He said his body just can't take that physical stress anymore.
"When you get all the equipment on and you are working under pressure, you know you could have a heart attack," he said.
The fire chief said the older firefighters are at risk if there is not a fully functioning fire crew in the community.
"If you have a huge fire and you've got guys maybe going down with heart problems and doing more than they should, that's always a concern of mine,:" Gary Steeves said.
He said the department's trying to recruit at least 10 new volunteers to ease the burden on the older firefighters.
Moncton's Regional Fire Centre says many rural fire departments across the province are in the same situation as Elgin and are struggling to recruit younger volunteers.
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