The LIEbrano lawyer is a divisive, irresponsible, fearmongering ARSEHOLE

As soon as CBC blocked an important statement of mine I warned thme that I would email their bosses and Ahmed Hussen et al. Obviously I got 3 interesting computer responses N'esy Pas?

I must say it was incredible how many comments I witnessed CBC delete after they were published. Scroll down to review what I managed to save. IF you notice "POOF" that means an entire comment thread disappeared.  I can only imagine how many individual comments their cohorts in VIAFOURA blocked before anyone could read them.

---------- Original message ----------
From: Premier of Ontario | Premier ministre de l’Ontario <Premier@ontario.ca>
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2018 04:25:44 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: YO PM Trudeau the Younger need I say I have had my fill of CBC and your Propaganda?
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---------- Original message ----------
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Thank you for contacting the Parliamentary Office of the Hon. Ahmed Hussen. Please be advised your matter will be dealt with promptly or forwarded to the respective office/department.
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---------- Original message ----------
From: "Gallant, Premier Brian (PO/CPM)" <Brian.Gallant@gnb.ca>
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2018 04:25:45 +0000
Subject: RE: YO PM Trudeau the Younger need I say I have had my fill
of CBC and your Propaganda?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Thank you for writing to the Premier of New Brunswick.  Please be
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---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2018 00:25:40 -0400
Subject: YO PM Trudeau the Younger need I say I have had my fill of CBC and  your Propaganda?
To: pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, "Gerald.Butts" <Gerald.Butts@pmo-cpm.gc.ca>,
"Katie.Telford" <Katie.Telford@pmo-cpm.gc.ca>, "andrew.scheer" <andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca>, "maxime.bernier" <maxime.bernier@parl.gc.ca>, "Ahmed.Hussen" <Ahmed.Hussen@parl.gc.ca>,
"elizabeth.may" <elizabeth.may@parl.gc.ca>, cullen1 <cullen1@parl.gc.ca>, 

 "hon.ralph.goodale" <hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca>, premier <premier@ontario.ca>,

"Jody.Wilson-Raybould" <Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc.ca>, 

"sylvie.gadoury" <sylvie.gadoury@radio-canada.ca>, "Alex.Johnston" <Alex.Johnston@cbc.ca>, "Chuck.Thompson" <Chuck.Thompson@cbc.ca>, Newsroom <Newsroom@globeandmail.com>,
"brian.gallant" <brian.gallant@gnb.ca>, "serge.rousselle" <serge.rousselle@gnb.ca>, 

Aliya Hana Hussain <ahussain@ccrjustice.org>,  "Stephen.Horsman" <Stephen.Horsman@gnb.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, Peter.Zimonjic@cbc.ca,

"Jacques.Poitras" <Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>, "steve.murphy" <steve.murphy@ctv.ca>, 

 andre <andre@jafaust.com>, "David.Coon" <David.Coon@gnb.ca>, 

http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2018/07/the-liebrano-lawyer-is-divisive.html

Friday, 13 July 2018

The LIEbrano lawyer is a divisive, irresponsible, fearmongering ARSEHOLE


https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/immigration-asylum-seekers-hussen-macleod-1.4746622

'Not Canadian': Hussen, MacLeod exchange sharp words over asylum seeker 'crisis'
Ontario's immigration language is 'irresponsible, divisive ...
fearmongering,' says Hussen
Peter Zimonjic · CBC News · Posted: Jul 13, 2018 5:23 PM ET


1886 Comments


George Hancock
I don't think we need someone from Somalia lecturing us on what is and
what is not Canadian.


em tae
@George Hancock

Lets discuss this further George...what is YOUR defiinition of
Canadian then because i want to see if i fit into your mold so that i
can join the discussion. Can i join the club George? Let me know



Gerry Ferguson
@George Hancock
well said


George Hobbs
@em tae We have regular Canadians and irregular Canadians.


David R. Amos
@George Hancock "I don't think we need someone from Somalia lecturing
us on what is and what is not Canadian."

CBC allows you to post this but blocks my words? Methinks everybody
knows why this Cooment thread was put into an email and sent to
Trudeau the Younger the lawyer Ahmed Hussen in a heartbeat N'esy Pas?

http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2017/03/attn-ministers-lena-metlege-diab-and.html

Saturday, 18 March 2017

ATTN Ministers Lena Metlege Diab and Ahmed Hussen I just heard about David and Kathryn Wright of Vogler’s Cove troubles with Immigration on CBC

Need I say that everybody played dumb as usual?   Cohen the lawyer speaking for the Wrights really pissed me off yesterday. Trust that I dismissed the sly bastard immediately just like I did with the nasty woman in Karen Ludwig's office earlier. 

However I will wager that both couples troubles will be over with the questionable lawyer Ahmed Hussen and his evil CIC minions in a heartbeat. As usual that bullshit will go down  before they have a chance to say my name to the VERY questionable people in the Crown Corp commonly knows as the CBC or the other corporate media. Most folks will never know what really happened just like it has on several other occasions when I butted heads with the CIC as they worked under the wicked Harper Regime.

At least one lady called me back from one of  Hussen's offices late yesterday. Her associate was somewhat honest with me today. I will leave to wonder what was said. Call them as ask them for yourself if you don't believe Mean Old Me about anything.

You received a new 0:23 minutes voicemail message, on Monday, March 20, 2017 at 07:15:53 PM in mailbox 9028000369 from 416 656 2526.



 ---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 12:45:18 -0400
Subject: Does anyone recall a lot a Yankees wanting to move up here if Trump got elected
and Canada booting them back?
To: PREMIER <PREMIER@gov.ns.ca>, ImmigrationMinister@novascotia.ca,
MIN-OAA@novascotia.ca, ca@zachchurchill.com, office@antigonishmla.ca,
barrington@chrisdentremont.com, karencasey@ns.aliantzinc.ca,

jamiebaillie <jamiebaillie@bellaliant.com>, keithbainmla <keithbainmla@ns.sympatico.ca>, davewilsonmla@eastlink.ca,"erin.otoole" <erin.otoole@parl.gc.ca>, 

"maxime.bernier"
<maxime.bernier@parl.gc.ca>, brad.trost@parl.gc.ca, "andrew.scheer"
<andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca>, MulcaT <MulcaT@parl.gc.ca>, Craig Munroe
<cmunroe@glgmlaw.com>, Liberal / Assistance <nbd_cna@liberal.ca>,
"Bill.Morneau" <Bill.Morneau@canada.ca>, premier <premier@gnb.ca>,
postur <postur@for.is>, mark.eyking@parl.gc.ca, "Matt.DeCourcey"
<Matt.DeCourcey@parl.gc.ca>, "hon.ralph.goodale"
<hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca>, "nick.moore" <nick.moore@bellmedia.ca>,
oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, andre <andre@jafaust.com>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>

, Minister@cic.gc.ca,
Ahmed.Hussen@parl.gc.ca, washington field
<washington.field@ic.fbi.gov>, mdcohen212 <mdcohen212@gmail.com>,
"Gilles.Moreau" <Gilles.Moreau@forces.gc.ca>

http://nslegislature.ca/index.php/people/members/jamie_baillie

The Honourable Jamie Baillie was first elected to the Nova Scotia
House of Assembly as MLA for Cumberland South in a by-election held in
2010 and was re-elected in 2013 and 2017.

He became Interim Leader of the Progressive Conservative Party of Nova
Scotia on August 16, 2010 and Leader on October 30, 2010.

He became Leader of the Official Opposition after the general election
of October 8, 2013.

Jamie Baillie is a chartered accountant and was President of Credit
Union Atlantic. He was also the Chief of Staff for the Honourable John
Hamm when he was Premier.

http://nslegislature.ca/index.php/people/members/David_Allan_Wilson

The Honourable Dave Wilson was first elected to the Nova Scotia House
of Assembly as MLA for Sackville-Cobequid in 2003 and was re-elected
in 2006, 2009, 2013, and 2017.

He is the NDP House Leader.

Constituency Office
    Suite 105, 51 Cobequid Road
    Lower Sackville, Nova Scotia
    B4C 2N1

    Phone: (902) 864-0396
    Fax: (902) 864-8409
    davewilsonmla@eastlink.ca

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Immigration Minister <ImmigrationMinister@novascotia.ca>
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2017 15:42:44 +0000
Subject: RE: ATTN Ministers Lena Metlege Diab and Ahmed Hussen I just
heard about David and Kathryn Wright of Vogler’s Cove troubles with
Immigaration on CBC
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Cc: Immigration Minister <ImmigrationMinister@novascotia.ca>

Dear Mr. Amos:

Thank you for your email dated March 18, 2017 to the Honourable Lena
Metlege Diab, Minister of Immigration for the Province of Nova Scotia,
regarding David and Kathryn Wright. As I am Director of Programs for
the Office of Immigration, Minister Diab has requested that I respond
to your email.

I have been following this story in the news as well and am sorry to
hear about the difficulties of Mr. & Mrs. Wright in moving to Nova
Scotia.

In Canada, immigration is a shared responsibility between the
provinces and the Canadian government via Immigration, Refugees and
Citizenship Canada (IRCC). Provinces can nominate individuals for
permanent residency through provincial nominee programs; however, IRCC
has the final authority with respect to all admissions to the country.

I note that you have already contacted the federal Minister of
Immigration, the Honourable Ahmed Hussen, with your concerns. You may
also wish to contact your Member of Parliament as these decisions are
solely a federal responsibility.

Once again, thank you for taking the time to write to me and for
sharing your views on such an important issue.

Yours truly,

Original signed by

Shelley Bent

Director of Programs

c.            Honourable Lena Metlege Diab, ECNS

---------- Original message ----------
From: Minister
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 07:47:01 -0400
Subject: RE: ATTN Karen Ludwig I just called and left a message for David Hickey after I heard Matthew Clark of Harvey talk on CBC about the CIC
To: David Amos

La version française suit.
This is an automatic acknowledgement of your e-mail addressed to the Minister of Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship.

Please note that Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) is experiencing a significant increase in the volume of correspondence received and we will strive to respond to your enquiry in as timely a manner as possible.

If this is a request for case information, the responsibility placed on us by the Privacy Act to protect all personal information precludes us from responding to you with case specific information using e-mail, unless we are able to verify that you are entitled/authorized to receive the case specific information.  Therefore, only general information would be provided in response to your enquiry.

We will not respond to e-mails concerning the following:


---------- Original message ----------
From: Ahmed.Hussen@parl.gc.ca
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 11:47:00 +0000
Subject: Autoreply / Réponse automatique
To: motomaniac333@gmail.com

Thank you for contacting Minister Ahmed Hussen’s Parliamentary office. Please be advised your matter will be dealt with promptly or forwarded to the respective office/department.
Please be advised for all Immigration, Refugee, Citizenship Canada related matters it is best to contact your Member of Parliament first. If you're unaware who your M.P. is please use this link

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Once again thank you for contacting our office. Have a nice day.

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Pour toute question au sujet d’Immigration, Réfugiés et Citoyenneté Canada, il est préférable de vous adresser directement votre députe. Si vous ne savez pas qui est le députe de votre circonscription, veuillez cliquer sur le lien suivant:

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Nous vous remercions pour votre intérêt, bonne journée.


---------- Original message ----------
From: "Gallant, Premier Brian (PO/CPM)"
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 11:47:14 +0000
Subject: RE: ATTN Karen Ludwig I just called and left a message for David Hickey after I heard Matthew Clark of Harvey talk on CBC about the CIC
To: David Amos

Thank you for writing to the Premier of New Brunswick.  Please be assured  that your email will be reviewed.

Nous vous remercions d’avoir communiqué avec le premier ministre du Nouveau-Brunswick.  Soyez assuré(e) que votre  courriel sera examiné.


---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 07:46:55 -0400
Subject: ATTN Karen Ludwig I just called and left a message for David Hickey after I heard Matthew Clark of Harvey talk on CBC about the CIC
To: Karen.Ludwig@parl.gc.ca, "Catherine.Harrop" , stewart.laverne@dailygleaner.com, Minister@cic.gc.ca, Ahmed.Hussen@parl.gc.ca, premier , "David.Coon" , "blaine.higgs" , "Matt.DeCourcey" , "Matt.DeCourcey.c1" , pm , "Gerald.Butts"
Cc: David Amos , "terry.seguin"

 Telephone: 506-466-3928
 E-Mail: Karen.Ludwig@parl.gc.ca

https://www.facebook.com/pg/CitCanada/about/?ref=page_internal

https://www.facebook.com/pg/Canadianimmigrationstruggles/about/?ref=page_internal


https://www.telegraphjournal.com/telegraph-journal/story/48188057/british-man-living-in?source=story-related

stewart.laverne@dailygleaner.com

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/matthew-clark-immigration-harvey-1.3728290

https://globalnews.ca/news/4331043/ontario-immigration-ahmed-hussen-lisa-macleod/ 

July 13, 2018 5:28 pm

Ontario MPP Lisa MacLeod slams ‘bully’ Ahmed Hussen as immigration dispute heats up

By Rahul Kalvapalle National Online Journalist  Global News

The Ontario cabinet minister responsible for immigration has demanded an apology from federal Immigration Minister Ahmed Hussen, who she says called her “un-Canadian” in attempts to “bully” her into accepting the federal government’s line on immigration.

The remarks came after MPP Lisa MacLeod said the province of Ontario would not join the communique signed at a meeting of federal, provincial and territorial ministers in Winnipeg.

Following the meeting, Hussen told reporters it was “unfortunate” that Ontario was not part of the communique, which called for a collaborative and long-term effort to improve the immigration system.

He made the comments as MacLeod sat at the back of the room instead of standing alongside Hussen and other ministers on the podium.

“I see the minister is in the room but not joining us at the podium,” Hussen said, addressing MacLeod.

“It’s not too late, minister, I encourage you to come join us, you’re part of the Canadian family.”

Hussen also accused Ontario of employing a rhetoric of “fear and division,” and using the province’s refugee crisis to condemn people fleeing difficult situations.

“Intentionally doing this is irresponsible, it’s divisive, it’s fear-mongering and it’s not Canadian and it is very dangerous.”


Once Hussen and other ministers left the room, MacLeod took to the podium to rebut Hussen’s remarks.

“When I challenged the federal minister of immigration on some of the issues that we’re confronting in Ottawa, the exchange became testy and I chose to leave the meeting,” she said.

MacLeod said Ontario is in dire need of assistance from the federal government as it tackles expenses associated with handling refugees and asylum seekers.

She said Toronto and Ottawa have requested $75 million and $11 million respectively, while the province of Ontario has incurred costs of $90 million in support services for refugee claimants who crossed the border illegally and sought asylum.

Hussen has been non-committal on about whether additional funding is forthcoming, saying in Halifax earlier this week that he’s “perplexed” by the request at a time when the province hasn’t committed to help Ottawa with a plan to redirect migrants to temporary shelters outside of Toronto.

MacLeod, who is also the Minister Responsible for Women’s Issues and Minister of Children, Community and Social Services, accused Hussen of trying to intimidate her when she was “simply asking them to fix the problems that they have created with their federal policies.”

“I was expecting that we would be able to collaborate on that; instead, what I saw today was an attempt of [Hussen] calling me un-Canadian, which I take great offence to and I hope he will apologize and reconsider his language. I also won’t be bullied into accepting what the federal government is doing because we do have severe and significant challenges [in Ontario],” said MacLeod.

Timothy Porter @timporter_ONT

And then he called her unCanadian @MacLeodLisa No money and no solutions for the crisis they created.

4:33 PM - Jul 13, 2018

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“I found his comments were very divisive. I thought his comments were actually mean-spirited towards me personally and I didn’t appreciate that. I think that his rhetoric is unhelpful and [that] he wants to avoid actually writing me a cheque for $175 million is what I got out of that.”
MacLeod concluded with another demand for an apology.

“I think maybe the minister should sit down, have a nice cup of tea, calm down a little bit and maybe phone me and apologize for calling me un-Canadian.”

Michelle Rempel, the federal Conservatives’ immigration critic, tweeted her support for MacLeod, and slammed Hussen’s “disgusting” behaviour.

“He is a bully, who tries to shut down scrutiny of Trudeau’s failure to address the illegal border crossing crisis with name-calling, insults, and condescension. This is no way to build a compassionate immigration system,” Rempel wrote.

 

Ahmed Hussen @HonAhmedHussen

Thread: In #Winnipeg to meet with Provincial & Territorial counterparts. We discussed how to continue to use immigration to grow our economy and our government’s clear plan to manage irregular migration.

Canadians expect all levels of government to work together. 1/6

3:47 PM - Jul 13, 2018

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MacLeod also found support from her Saskatchewan counterpart Jeremy Harrison, whose province also didn’t sign on to the communique. Harrison said the Saskatchewan government held firm in its position that the federal government fund supports for asylum seekers.

“Canada has yet to follow through on a commitment to fully support refugee transition and there is now added pressure for provinces to also support asylum seekers.”

— With a file from The Canadian Press




https://twitter.com/DavidRayAmos/with_replies 





David Raymond Amos‏ @DavidRayAmos

Replying to @DavidRayAmos @FloryGoncalves and 49 others

The LIEbrano Propaganda Machine is still working overtime deleting and editing comment sections in order to make Trudeau The Younger and his minions Appear To Be Ethical N'esy Pas? Compare our records 

http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2018/07/the-liebrano-lawyer-is-divisive.html

#TrudeauGropes #RCMP #cdnpoli

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/immigration-asylum-seekers-hussen-macleod-1.4746622

'Not Canadian': Hussen, MacLeod exchange sharp words over asylum seeker 'crisis'

Ontario's immigration language is 'irresponsible, divisive ... fearmongering,' says Hussen

Peter Zimonjic · CBC News · Posted: Jul 13, 2018 5:23 PM ET



3400 Comments 
Commenting is now closed for this story.





David R. Amos

Perhaps my fellow Canadians should remind the liberal lawyer Mr Minister Ahmed Hussen and his boss Prime Minister Trudeau The Younger of what I thought of Hussen for not showing a little compassion for the Yankee couple David and Kathryn Wright.

CBC and their neighbours affirmed to me that they had earned the right to remain in Voglers Cove. Although the federal Minister's computer acknowledged my email his people never responded and ignored my phone calls. On the other hand another liberal lawyer Minister Lena Metlege Diab did respond to me immediately in writing and told me it was Hussen's responsibility not hers.

Now I read this nonsense and shake my head as Hussen calls a Conservative Provincial Cabinet Minister names. Methinks Mr Prime Minister Trudeau The Younger should understand why I have no respect for liberal lawyers N'esy Pas?

This one of the news articles I reacted over a year ago as Trudeau was Tweeting and welcoming everybody else to come to Canada.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/david-wright-kathryn-wright-deportation-order-immigration-1.4028868

I have no idea what has happened to David and Kathryn Wright since this piece of news

http://thechronicleherald.ca/novascotia/1542810-last-chance-to-stay-voglers-cove-couple-fights-deportation

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David R. Amos

@David R. Amos Here is a little proof of what I say is true

---------- Original message ----------
From: Immigration Minister
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2017 15:42:44 +0000
Subject: RE: ATTN Ministers Lena Metlege Diab and Ahmed Hussen I just heard about David and Kathryn Wright of Vogler’s Cove troubles with Immigaration on CBC
To: David Amos
Cc: Immigration Minister

Dear Mr. Amos:

Thank you for your email dated March 18, 2017 to the Honourable Lena Metlege Diab, Minister of Immigration for the Province of Nova Scotia, regarding David and Kathryn Wright. As I am Director of Programs for the Office of Immigration, Minister Diab has requested that I respond to your email.

I have been following this story in the news as well and am sorry to hear about the difficulties of Mr. & Mrs. Wright in moving to Nova Scotia.

In Canada, immigration is a shared responsibility between the provinces and the Canadian government via Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC). Provinces can nominate individuals for permanent residency through provincial nominee programs; however, IRCC has the final authority with respect to all admissions to the country.

I note that you have already contacted the federal Minister of Immigration, the Honourable Ahmed Hussen, with your concerns. You may also wish to contact your Member of Parliament as these decisions are solely a federal responsibility.

Once again, thank you for taking the time to write to me and for sharing your views on such an important issue.

Yours truly,

Original signed by
Shelley Bent
Director of Programs

c. Honourable Lena Metlege Diab, ECNS






 
"POOF" 
George Hancock

I don't think we need someone from Somalia lecturing us on what is and what is not Canadian.

em tae

@George Hancock

Lets discuss this further George...what is YOUR defiinition of Canadian then because i want to see if i fit into your mold so that i can join the discussion. Can i join the club George? Let me know

Gerry Ferguson

@George Hancock
well said

George Hobbs

@em tae We have regular Canadians and irregular Canadians.

David R. Amos

@George Hancock "I don't think we need someone from Somalia lecturing us on what is and what is not Canadian."

CBC allows you to post this but blocks my words? Methinks everybody knows why this Cooment thread was put into an email and sent to Trudeau the Younger the lawyer Ahmed Hussen in a heartbeat N'esy Pas?

"POOF"

William Ben

Mr Hussein is out of step with Canadians but in lock step with Trudeau’s post national nation agenda.

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David R. Amos 

@William Ben Methinks everybody knows that Minister Ahmed Hussen is just another sneaky liberal lawyer to me. I know for a fact he has failed to make me understand how these people coming from the USA can seek asylum here when they are already in a country that should already be dealing with them fairly byway of the same international obligations that Canada agreed to. I bet many more Canadians agree with me rather than Hussien's rhetoric on the topic Correct? I suspect that its a very rare soul who leaves Canada to seek asylum in the USA when we threat the immigrant folks so well. However I as a Canadian citizen I had to battle the my government tooth and nail for years to secure my CPP and old age benefits. In fact I sued the Crown about another issue before it finally gave me my first CPP dime back. Then I threaten to sue it again to secure my old age benefits before the Crown did the right thing by me at the very last minute before I filed . Trust that the lawyer Hussein and all his cohorts have never answered a single one of my questions on any topic. However they won't have parliamentary immunity forever and everybody knows that I love to sue lawyers Nesy Pas?

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David R. Amos

@David R. Amos Methinks CBC is gonna regret blocking that comment come Monday morning or my name ain't "Just Dave" N'esy Pas?

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David R. Amos

@William Ben Imagine if a well known liberal or conservative had replied to your comment with a true statement on topic and CBC blocked it. What do you think would happen next?

 

"POOF" 
Alexandra Northe

Calling a fellow Canadian un- Canadian is as un-Canadian as you can get.

 

Karin Bougie

@Alexandra Northe

Precisely.

Marie Price

@Alexandra Northe Not when you have Trumpish bullies calling our own Minister unCanadian.

Claire Davis

@Marie Price

I don’t care about Trump. Sorry.

Alexandra Northe

@Claire Davis
Nor I.

Alexandra Northe

@Marie Price
We’re talking about Canadians right now. Last I checked, Trump is American. So I’m not sure if he has anything at all to do with this. At all.

Karin Bougie

@Marie Price
How on earth does Trump enter this conversation?

LiAngelo Fisher

@Alexandra Northe

Liberals love accusing others and labelling them as racists, sexists, bigots, xenophobes, deplorables, un-Canadian... the list goes on. It's all they do.

David R. Amos

@Alexandra Northe "Calling a fellow Canadian un- Canadian is as un-Canadian as you can get."

I agree. Methinks only a rather desperate lawyer would try that nonsense on a fellow Cabinet Minister and a Lady at that. Seems that Trudeau the Younger is never around when he is needed N'esy Pas?

Gordon MacFarlane

@Karin Bougie

The same way Harper usually does

In an obvious and desperate attempt to tie a can around the Conservatives.

Thankfully most Canadians are smart enough to see it for the greasy political thingy that it is

Troy Mann

@Gordon MacFarlane

And people who are fleeing for their lives are the pawns in this.

Canadians I know open up their hearts to the weak and vulnerable, protect them from tyranny and ultimate death.

I think we can help people and it's silly to say we will go broke by helping these people. They are coming here because they fear being anywhere else.
 

David R. Amos

@LiAngelo Fisher "Liberals love accusing others"

i agree just look at the names they call me within CBC and elsewhere on the Internet. Methinks its just because I ran against them five times and had the nerve to sue the Crown before Trudeau The Younger won his big mandate and his lawyers were not wise enough to side with me before polling day 2015 Well we are already half way through 2018 N'esy Pas?

David R. Amos

@Troy Mann Methinks the liberal spin doctors and their lawyers wish to forget the fact that these people are "fleeing' from the oh so great USA which has the very same international obligations that Canada signed on to N'esy Pas?

David R. Amos

@Gordon MacFarlane "Thankfully most Canadians are smart enough to see it for the greasy political thingy that it is"

Methinks most folks don't give a damn Hence we get the governments we deserve N'esy Pas?

David R. Amos

@Karin Bougie "How on earth does Trump enter this conversation?'

Methinks many political people would agree that its just desperate liberal spin doctors doing desperate things N'esy Pas?

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William Ben

Having an opposing view in a democracy is not un-Canadian, it is very much Canadian Mr Hussein you are terribly wrong in your assessment.

Ginny Boots

@William Ben -Nope. Not when that view is ....I’m not going to say it

Jason Tremblay (JasonDiggy)

@William Ben

Next you rightists will be arguing that marching with tiki torches is as Canadian as a Canada Day parade.

Keith Laughton

@Jason Tremblay (JasonDiggy)

Please provide your definition on Canadian values so we can see if it has anything of value to add to the discussion on the article.

Regards,

William Carver

@Jason Tremblay (JasonDiggy)

I march daily with them. Well only during mosquito season, and I'm planning on enjoying the backyard.

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David R. Amos

@Jason Tremblay (JasonDiggy) "Next you rightists will be arguing that marching with tiki torches is as Canadian as a Canada Day parade."

How long do you think your comments will last?

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David R. Amos

@Ginny Boots "Nope. Not when that view is ....I’m not going to say it"

Methinks only liberals are allowed to reply even if their comments make no sense whatsoever N'esy Pas?

David R. Amos

@Keith Laughton Well put

David R. Amos

@William Carver Methinks tikis may be remembered fondly non political types too. No doubt a few old folks would agree that naked tiki dancing was fun around a bonfire under a full moon in our youth. Many old liberal immigrants from the sixties and seventies some were just hippies and many were Yankee draft dodgers just like an old liberal lawyer I love to hate know exactly what I am talking about. Now as I recall tiki dancing I bet that all the old Yankee immigrants can think about is their pensions etc and whether or not they should go to Florida this winter because of Trump and FATCA etc. At least if the must stay home their latest fearless leader Trudeau The Younger has succeeded in making their dope smoking legal soon N'esy Pas?

Steve Thomson

@Jason Tremblay (JasonDiggy) The only Canadian value is freedom . And that includes freedom from the predations of left wing fascists and their big governments .

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David R. Amos

@Steve Thomson Oh my how many of your comments made it by the left wing moderators thus far? Methinks I should just give up trying to post anything. After watching a couple of entire comment threads go "Poof" l will wager that lots of others folks must be pissed at CBC too So much for Friday the 13th Need I say Shame on CBC? Oh I already said that but nobody will read it at least in here anyway N'esy Pas?

Floyd Robertson

@William Ben

Kelly Leitch, is that you?

David R. Amos

@Floyd Robertson Methinks you are the one playing the name game in CBC contrary to the rules N'esy Pas?

 

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George Abbott

Hussen has lots of money for asylum seekers but no money for the monthly disability pensions for Canadian veterans. Puzzling?

David R. Amos

@George Abbott As a Canadian senior born and raised and a former small business man I had to fight tooth and nail to no avail then threaten to sue the Crown in order to get my CPP and my old age benefits. Methinks my monthly stipend is a lot less than what the liberals are giving these so called "Asylum Seekers" N'esy Pas?

 

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Patrick Ko

funny how people not born in Canada are calling Canadian born citizens "un-Canadian"

BobbyTaylor

@Patrick Ko - to thr liberals, unCanadian is anyone who disagrees with the liberals. Sometimes I think Trudeau is shocked that anyone would disagree with him.

David R. Amos

@BobbyTaylor Methinks Trudeau The Younger is to thick to be shocked by anything but he sure can cry crocodile tears at the drop of a hat N'esy Pas?

 
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David James

Well fellow CANADIANS, I hope you will remember the insolence of this federal minister and his Trudeau Liberal cohorts come 2019.

Leslie Ward

@David James Educate yourself, Ford and his minister clearly do not know the law and lie about it.

Peter While

@Leslie Ward - Canada is under no obligation to accept migrants coming from another country that is deemed safe.

David R. Amos

@David James Methinks I will remember you when I debate my political opponents this summer N'esy Pas?

David R. Amos

@Peter While True

David R. Amos

@Leslie Ward False

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Richard Dekkar

Only one of the 2 was actually born in Canada and she is most certainly Canadian.

Federico Pena

They are both Canadian. What's your point?

Richard Riel

@Federico Pena I would have said un-Canadian.

Steven Scott

@Richard Dekkar
Macleod immigrated here there are no Scot Clans indigenous to Canada .....

Michael Brown

@Steven Scott That "there are no Scot Clans indigenous to Canada" does not mean she immigrated here.

Chris Young

@Michael Brown If she did, she didn't walk across the boarder.

Keith Laughton

@Michael Brown

In your opinion, when did migration stop and immigration begin?

Regards,

William Carver

@Steven Scott

and those that migrated cross the Bering Straight land bridge?

David R. Amos

@William Carver What of the Vikings?

David R. Amos

@David R. Amos Methinks the Vikings would never allow a liberal on their boats N'esy Pas?

William Carver

@David R. Amos
;)

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David R. Amos

@Steven Scott "Macleod immigrated here there are no Scot Clans indigenous to Canada"

Methinks that many of my Scottish forefathers had Viking blood coursing through their veins N'esy Pas?

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David R. Amos

@Michael Brown "there are no Scot Clans indigenous to Canada"

Methinks you overlooked one Clan in particular N'esy Pas?

David R. Amos

@Keith Laughton "In your opinion, when did migration stop and immigration begin?"

In my humble opinion many Loyalists began their migration up here in 1776 about 20 years after Wolfe and Montcalm killed each other settling who controlled the turf N'esy Pas?

David R. Amos

@Richard Riel What do you say of Louis Riel and his Metis pals? Were they un-Canadian or byway of being of mixed blood more Canadian than most folks?

David R. Amos

@Keith Laughton I know for a fact some of my Scottish kin did not migrate or immigrate here. They assisted the British to take the county by force of arms. Afterwards some marred French ladies others married indigenous ones.

David R. Amos 

 @Federico Pena My point is we are a well mixed crowd but Canadians all the same. That said. In my humble opinion the liberal lawyer quoted in this article has no class whatsoever. He certainly does not speak on my behalf as a Cabinet Minister. Be he be born here or not he is still just another snobby liberal lawyer to me. I know for a fact that that lawyer nor any other liberal or conservative or NDP or BLOC or the Green Party leader would never ever dare to even same my name in public just like the CBC people were never allowed to until the elections were over. N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276








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steve jackson

I was never a Conservative until Justin and his Liberal Party of Canada proved who they really are by using the nation's population to push their social agenda which is going to cripple us.

Sunny ways!!

George Hobbs

@steve jackson SUNNI ways IS their social agenda.

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David R. Amos

@George Hobbs Tut Tut Tut

David R. Amos

@George Hobbs HMMMM

 

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Charles Farley

Hussen is an absolute failure. He has done nothing to stop the ILLEGAL border crossing that is occurring. All he wants to do is throw taxpayer money at them once they have crossed the border.
He should be fired.

David R. Amos

@Charles Farley YUP

 
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John Spartan

If someone with the name of Mr. Hussein called me un-Canadian I wouldn't be too concerned.

Unless my uncontrollable laughing caused me to wet myself or choke.

Jeramy Keest

@John Spartan is canadian-ness predicated on having the right kind of name?

Pat Smith

@Jeramy Keest
Nothing to do with a name. For someone who was not born in Canada (i.e. Hussein) to call a Canadian-born person "un-Canadian" is laughable.

em tae

@Pat Smith

do you have to be born in Canada to be Canadian by your definition?

David R. Amos

@Pat Smith Methinks if the snobby lawyer's name were Smith it would still be insulting to most folks particularly the French political dudes from Quebec named Trudeau or Chretien or the ones down in the Maritimes named Leblanc or Gallant etc N'esy Pas?

David R. Amos

@em tae Methinks a lot of folks would doubt that is your real names as per CBC's rules N'esy Pas?

 

Bert Law

This government is wrong on so many levels.

Their repeated talking points based on ideological entitled ego driven fantasies are purely embarrassing.

As hussen himself has said last year, if you are not coming into the country through the proper controlled crossings....you are here illegally.

David R. Amos

@Bert Law Methinks many would agree that the rules are irrelevant to the liberals and the conservatives as well N'esy Pas?

David R. Amos

@Bert Law "Those are the rules."

Methinks I should remind the people spinning for their various political parties within CBC's domain of the Golden Rule a friend of mine informed me of long ago. He is a Canadian Rhodes Scholar who is married to a Yankee politician so he aught to know the rule applies on both sides of the medicine line N'esy Pas?

The Golden Rule is "He With the Gold Makes the Rules"

 

Patrick Ko

So called "asylum seekers' are nothing of the sort, as they cross the border from the USA. They don't need asylum from America.

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David R. Amos

@Patrick Ko "They don't need asylum from America."

True

Methinks everybody knows it excepting of course Trudeau the Younger and his mindless minions N'esy Pas?

David R. Amos

@Patrick Ko "They don't need asylum from America"

True

Methinks everybody knows the Safe Third Country Agreement affirms it. Thats why Axworthy wants the Feds to suspend it N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/rally-safe-third-country-agreement-winnipeg-trump-1.4743060

 
Jim Smith

In fairness to the Ontario P.C. government and the minister, the high-ended way that Hussen chose to play this is exactly what gives people like Donald Trump traction.

David R. Amos

@Jim Smith I concur

 
Don Cameron

Hussen doesn't get to decide who and what is 'unCanadian'.

Asylum seekers illegally entering Canada is a 'made in Ottawa' problem.
Just more arrogance from a minister of the Trudeau Liberals.

David R. Amos

@Don Cameron YUP

Mary Smith

Wow, if Lisa McLeod had called Hussen un-Canadian we all know what would be splashed all over the media.. So many double standards being applied here. He needs to afford her a public apology.

Diane Sierra

@Mary Smith Are we such lemmings that we are turning into our southern neighbours who have a tyrrant and a bully as so-called president? I have always thought of Canada as a generous and wealthy country. That seems to be changing. Not so subtly. What is wrong with you people?

Steve Zissu

@Diane Sierra get grip Diane.
Maybe go have a nap, you loon.

Byron Linley

@Diane Sierra

In answer to your original question one word suffices.

You

Claire Blackstone

@Diane Sierra

Do you have space in your home where newcomers can live? Even just one?

David Farquhar

@Mary Smith Minister Ahmed Hussen openly criticizing the Ontario government for what he called a dangerous and un-Canadian approach to the issue of asylum seekers Don't see here where he personally called her un Canadian only the party she represents. Her skin maybe a little thin or she hears what she wants to hear

Diane Sierra

@Claire Blackstone Yes, and I have opened my home to them. have you?

Mary Smith

@Claire Blackstone She's quite now, must have taken the suggestion to take a nap.

Claire Blackstone

@Diane Sierra

Indeed I have, Ms Sierra.

Diane Sierra

@Claire Blackstone And she would be right. Oh, by the way. Don't forget that you are only here by a lucky accident of birth. Smugness does not become you.

Diane Sierra

@Claire Blackstone Your comments certainly do not reflect that. Just so you know, and not that it probably matters all that much, but I don't actually believe you.

Mary Smith

@Diane Sierra So how many border crossing irregular migrants are living with you right now?

Lee Day

@Diane Sierra
Perhaps ensuring that those who come in are properly vetted would be a step in the right direction. That is Diane, unless you are advocating an open border and “all are welcome”. Is that so?

Diane Sierra

@Lee Day Of course not. It is the sentiments on this site that are a little too reminiscent of trump's America, though. It is hard to imagine that people do not see their own actions and words mirroring the politics south of the border. I

Mary Smith

@Diane Sierra Have you ever left your village? If not perhaps give it a try. you might just learn a few things.

Al Crosby

@Diane Sierra Clearly in work, life and on this comment board, it is much easier for some people to make negative comments than to provide a positive idea for a solution to a problem. Positive feedback is supposed to motivate people to do better. I believe there is a 5:1 ratio of negativity here and those making any positive contribution to the debate will be put down. I didn't feel your comments were off the mark.

Danielle Dalbec

@Diane Sierra

There is a difference between being generous and being a pushover.

Danielle Dalbec

@Mary Smith

You do mean "quiet", yes?

Claire Blackstone

@Diane Sierra

Will certainly take your observations seriously. LOL.

Claire Blackstone

@Diane Sierra

How about a date? I really enjoy getting to know people who think they know me better than I know myself.

David R. Amos 

@Mary Smith Methinks a lot of political animals got a pretty good laugh this morning if they were listening to CBC. Basically Lisa McLeod suggested that Hussen have a cup of tea and think about apologizing to her. That was pretty rich political rhetoric from a brand new Cabinet Minister. I would wager that a lot of Canadians would say she sounded just like our Mothers and may even throw her hat in the ring in the election of the 43rd Parliament. It would be quite a Circus to watch if McLeod ran against Hussen for his seat N'esy Pas?

Grace King

I agree with our Ontario minister 100% ! Mr Premier of Ontario is keeping his promises and I praise HIM for it.
Please respect us the voters who voted and spoke !!!
Mr Ford you are doing the GREAT JOB in ONTARIO! Thanks.

Otto Wevers

"HIM" is usually referencing a diety like god. Scary thought if people think ford is now godlike.

David R. Amos

@Otto Wevers Be Afraid Very Afraid

 
joan denmark

Mr. Hussen you are wrong about this. Debate and differing opinions has been the lifeblood of our democracy since 1867. That is the year of our Confederation. You owe ALL Canadians an apology.... and in your world view just who is a REAL Canadian?

Jim Dandee

@joan denmark

Thank you!

Richard Riel

@joan denmark The deepest pockets.

Jay Henryk

@joan denmark This not a debate. This is about facts and the law. And the federal minister is completely correct in his interpretation.

William Carver

@Jay Henryk

so you don't mind folk en masse abusing our asylum protection system?

David R. Amos

@Richard Riel "The deepest pockets."

Oh So True.

Methinks it should be obvious that Mr. Hussen's boss has a grip on the government's purse strings so for at least another year or so. Hence as the Liberals play with our tax funds for their benefit they get to define who among peoplekind are Canadian and who are un-Canadian N'esy Pas?

David R. Amos 

@Jay Henryk "This is about facts and the law"

YUP Wanna argue it? Methinks we should begin with the Safe Third Country Agreement that Mr. Hussen and his fellow liberal lawyers do not wish to discuss N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/immigration-canada-us-asylum-safe-third-country-agreement-1.4648172

"While Hussen has repeatedly insisted that there are no "formal negotiations" going on at this point, he told CBC Radio's The House that the Safe Third Country Agreement is the subject of ongoing conversations with the U.S. which could lead to proposals to modernize the 14-year-old pact. "It's always worth a look," he said.

Hussen rejected calls to suspend the agreement last year, saying there was no need to "tinker" with it. On Thursday, however, he said the Trudeau government has discussed the agreement with U.S. counterparts.

He told CBC News the comment from Homeland Security likely referred to more general discussions "on all kinds of issues related to immigration and border security, including safe third."

In the meantime, Hussen said, the government will continue to address the issue of illegal border crossings by using the same tactics that seemed to work last year."

Peter Boone

Hussein is just another totally incompetent Federal Cabinet Minister

Dennis Belanger

@Peter Boone "most incompetent"

David R. Amos 

 @Dennis Belanger "most incompetent"

Methinks the "most incompetent" should go to the Tag Team of Goodale and Brison a former Minister of Finance and the current President of the Treasury Board. I have no doubt whatsoever the NDP Conservatives, RCMP and Yankee SEC recall the spike in the Stock Market concerning Income Trusts before Goodale announced he was not going to tax them just as Paul Martin had the writ dropped not long after Gomery filed his report and the election of the 39th Parliament was underway. Everybody knows those scandals helped Harper win his first minority mandate N'esy Pas?






Larry Kostniuk

Ontario has enough problems, I stand with MacLeod!

David R. Amos

@Larry Kostniuk Methinks many do Thats why Doug Ford won the mandate N'esy Pas?

William Carver

Our immigration minister is the problem.

Kay Denjay

@William Carver

A huge one; same with the public safety minister.

Grace King

@William Carver
not only one : the politicians who voted to legalize marijuana are being responsible for inviting Canada to become drug addicts?

David R. Amos

@William Carver "Our immigration minister is the problem."

Methinks Mr. Hussen is following orders just like the rest of "Canada' Natural Governing Party" are. However the lawyer certainly needs to mind his mouth or Trudeau The Younger will be compelled to shuffle him out of cabinet long before the next writ is dropped in 2019 N'esy Pas?

David R. Amos

@Kay Denjay "A huge one; same with the public safety minister."

I concur






Rob Hali

Legal immigration is one of the strongest pillars of Canadian society... but a leader of a country inviting illegal border crossings is beyond insane... This has gotten totally out of control, and all because of an immature tweet aimed at scoring political points.

Peter James

@Rob Hali

Agree...great post.

David R. Amos

@Peter James I concur

Neil Nevill

Trudeau's mess.
Trudeau's problem.

Jamie Lin

@Neil Nevill

You talking about Creston?

Sandra Largent

@Neil Nevill Trudeau is a mess and Trudeau and his ilk are messing with Canadians big time .

David R. Amos

@Neil Nevill YUP

 



 
joan denmark

Mr. Hussen you are 100 % wrong about this. Debate and differences of opinion have been part of our Canadian Identity and Democracy since 1867... our Confedertion. It is part of our life blood. You need to apologize to ALL Canadians.

Kay Denjay

@Awistoyus Nahasthay

You were horribke on the globe and mail and are here. Stop spreading misinformation

Awistoyus Nahasthay

@Kay Denjay

Um, you seem to be confused, I was not on the Globe and Mail, and am not wrong on the facts here.
If you bothered to check them out for yourself, you'd see.

Kay Denjay

@Awistoyus Nahasthay

Yes you were. With the exact ridiculous name before they changed their format.

Paul Robertson

@Awistoyus Nahasthay please me friend help me talk mr justin i can come canajada

Awistoyus Nahasthay

@Kay Denjay

wow...what can I say, I don't even know what you're talking about.

Keith Laughton

@Awistoyus Nahasthay

Is it legal to cross the Canadian border at other than an official post or is it just irregular? I wonder if there other laws that Mr Hussen thinks are OK to break.

Now as to his comment about the separation of immigration from refugee claims, can you please explain why the Department as a whole has been focused on dealing with the "Irregular" border crossers?

That would appear to be diverting attention from the remainder of the Department's portfolio and responsibilities. Perhaps even the development of policy regarding legal immigration and its implementation.

As for the IRB you will see that the Government published Independent Review shows that the IRB is increasingly falling behind the demand. Check out figure 1 from the link.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/immigration-asylum-seekers-hussen-macleod-1.4746622?__vfz=profile_comment%3D5352900016542#vf-6659000016593

This of course means it will be less able to process individuals who may be coming from UNHCR refugee camps as opposed to dealing with Nigerian tourists or Haitians who had been granted temporary status in the US following the 2010 earthquake.

Even the Minister believes that the bulk of the "irregular" crossers will make false claims and be rejected.

REgards,

Awistoyus Nahasthay

@Keith Laughton

Crossing the border outside a regular crossing point is irregular and illegal, unless you make an asylum claim.
That is not just me talking, it is the IRCC. Here is a link to a document that supports my claims, and debunks yours.
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/news/2017/03/claiming_asylum_incanadawhathappens.html
Cheers.

David R. Amos 

@Awistoyus Nahasthay "I don't even know what you're talking about."

Methinks if that were even remotely true then I must ask where did your first comment within this thread go and what did you say this time that caused Ms Denjay to reply in disgust? Its not rocket science for me to believe the lady words over you. Perhaps I should remind you of your words to me in June of 2017 Anyone can Google your questionable name N'esy Pas?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/rcmp-pension-young-mothers-federal-court-1.4151519

Awistoyus Nahasthay
@David Raymond Amos
It is NOT nonsense David, it is plain, simple, logic.
It is people speaking against the concept - that someone is entitled to their entitlements - that is pure nonsense!

John Alexander

It's time for Liberal Party to stop claiming that only what is in the Liberal policy handbook is Canadian.

Canadians will define what it means to be Canadian.

joan denmark

@John Alexander Thank you for that.

David R. Amos

@John Alexander Methinks that liberals wish to forget that Trudeau The Younger speaks for peoplekind while many of mankind shake our head at the liberal leader's nonsense N'esy Pas?

 
Robert Heck

Looking forward to next years elections.

Out with the Liberals....you can fill in your own party of choice from here on. I just want the Liberals gone.

David James

@Robert Heck

We all do.

 

Robert Heck

@David James

I'm smiling, because that's what we ALL said in Ontario last year regarding Wynne.
Let's hope to make it 2 in a row.

jph wacheski

@Robert Heck representative government is a joke. 4 year dictatorships are not a democracy.

David R. Amos

@David James Methinks "We all" is a pretty big expression when I know for a fact you and your cohorts could never dream of speaking for me or the left wingers you are arguing N'esy Pas?

David R. Amos

@jph wacheski I agree

 

Steve Timmins

Trudeau gets 39% of the vote but if you disagree with him or his cabinet then you must be unCanadian. hmm

glen spryszak

@Steve Timmins

That's like calling people "despicable" and we all know how well that worked for you know who.

glen spryszak

@glen spryszak

My bad...... un-Canadians (according to Liberals) are the new "deplorables"..... and we all know how well that worked for you know who.

David R. Amos

@glen spryszak Methinks the wealthy Yankee lawyer who is "you know who" would never agree that what you say is true She and her FBI buddies maintain that the Russians done her and her DNC cohorts in for the benefit of the dude they call "The Donald" N'esy Pas?

Karin Bougie

Maybe a guy born in Somalia and comes here and becomes 'Canadian', thinks of being Canadian differently than someone born here?

And obviously, if you aren't what he thinks is Canadian, then you are un-Canadian.

People like him should not be making decisions on immigration for our country.......

 

David R. Amos

@Karin Bougie Methinks you must realize by now that any liberal lawyer woulds not care what you or I think about any issue because they know that we would never vote for their political party anyway N'esy Pas?

Jeff Nicholls

Thanks Lisa for standing up for Canadians who are growing tired of this whole mess .

David R. Amos

@Jeff Nicholls Methinks we should not have to thank a Cabinet Minister for doing her job particularly when her party promised to address the issue in order to win the mandate to govern N'esy Pas?

  

Barney Miller

Hussen's Department of immigration handles ALL immigration into Canada... treating fake asylum seekers to expedited processing is que jumping...more than half of the applications are being rejected, then appealed for a decade, until an unenforceable deportation order is produced....these ILLEGAL migrants will bankrupt us.

Robert Lepage

@Barney Miller
The ILLEGAL asylum seekers are stealing BILLIONS OF MY TAXDOLLARS! I'd rather see them kicked out of MY country so I get MY ENTITLED tax cut!

David R. Amos

@Barney Miller Methinks Trudeau The Younger's minions, the NDP, Madame May, the BLOC and the Conservatives all know what really irked me was that at the same point in time back in 2017 as a Canadian citizen born a raised and a former small businessman I had to threaten to sue the Crown in order receive my fair share of CPP and Old Age entitlements in a timely fashion. I do declare that you have and interesting name as well N'esy Pas?

 
Chris Johnson

Why does the left always revert to attacks when challenged? Ontario is paying 90M+ for a problem Trudeau created with his Tweet, MacLeod expects answers and is attacked as un-Canadian. What?!
#WalkAway

Kay Denjay

@Chris Johnson

I'm a lefty

Chris Johnson

@Kay Denjay

WalkAway

Kay Denjay

@Chris Johnson

I'm a BC Lefty happy to rid of global money laundering

jimmy vee

@Chris Johnson Global immigration was not created by JT is been going on for thousands of years.

David R. Amos

@jimmy vee Methinks you should read his comment before you reply. It appears to me that Mr Johnson was pointing out that a Tweet by Trudeau The Younger created a problem that has now resulted in CBC publishing an article about his Cabinet Minister calling another Cabinet Minister names N'esy Pas?

'Not Canadian': Hussen, MacLeod exchange sharp words over asylum seeker 'crisis'

Ontario's immigration language is 'irresponsible, divisive ... fearmongering,' says Hussen

Peter Zimonjic · CBC News · Posted: Jul 13, 2018 5:23 PM ET 

Lisa MacLeod, Ontario's minister responsible for women's issues and minister of children, community and social services, left, and federal Immigration Minister Ahmed Hussen exchanged sharp words Friday over Ontario's demand that Ottawa pick up more of the costs associated with irregular border-crossers. (Canadian Press photos)


A meeting between Canada's federal and provincial immigration ministers ended bitterly Friday, with federal Immigration Minister Ahmed Hussen openly criticizing the Ontario government for what he called a dangerous and un-Canadian approach to the issue of asylum seekers.

"They've chosen to use false language with respect to so-called queue-jumping, when we have told them over and over again there is no such thing," Hussen told reporters in Winnipeg at the closing press conference.

"Asylum seekers are processed in a separate queue at the IRB and all the other regular immigration programs are processed by IRCC, and conflating the two knowingly is irresponsible, it's divisive, it's fearmongering and it's not Canadian, and it's very dangerous."

Hussen criticized Ontario's Minister of Children, Community and Social Services Lisa MacLeod — who is also responsible for the immigration file — for walking away from discussions between the other immigration ministers and for refusing to sign the official communique issued after the meetings.

• Chatham-Kent wants to grow municipality by housing Toronto's refugees

• Federal immigration minister criticizes Ont. Tories' language on asylum seekers

MacLeod did not take the attack lightly, telling reporters after Hussen left the podium that it was the federal minister who did not want to collaborate on the issue of irregular migration.

"I am not going to get into a debate on semantics with the minister," she said, "but I did request that he take into consideration these exorbitant costs which ... is about $174 million on top of the $3 million that Ontario provided to the Red Cross.

"I was expecting that we would be able to collaborate on that. Instead, what I saw here today was ... him calling me un-Canadian, which I take great offence to. And I so hope he will apologize and reconsider his language.

"There is a problem at the border, the border must be enforced and ... Ontario should be made whole for all of the costs that we've incurred."

A broad discussion

The ministers did speak about asylum seekers from the U.S. crossing the border into Canada irregularly, but they also met to discuss economic immigration, francophone immigration, settlement and integration and how to attract new workers to Canada, Hussen said.

"So we talked about all those issues, but unfortunately Ontario has chosen to walk away from the table. They have failed their municipalities because they are saying they do not have anything to do with this," he said. "The fact is that temporary housing and housing issues are a shared responsibility and we have to work together, and we are committed to working together.

"I've spoken to Mayor (John) Tory of Toronto and I have told him that the government of Canada will have the backs of all municipalities affected by this and we will be there for Ontario."

Hussen said the number of irregular border crossers has fallen steadily over the past several months. According to official numbers published Friday, the number of irregular migrants crossing the border to claim asylum has gone from 2,560 in April, to 1,869 in May and 1,263 in June.

Federal dollars needed

MacLeod wasn't the only one who didn't sign the communique released after the ministerial meeting. Saskatchewan's Jeremy Harrison, the minister responsible for immigration in that province, also kept his name off it.

"It is the Government of Saskatchewan's position that the government of Canada fully fund supports for asylum seekers that have arisen from recent federal policy decisions," Harrison said in a statement.

"The Government of Saskatchewan also calls on the Government of Canada to fully fund health, social assistance and employment supports for asylum seekers and recently arrived government-assisted-refugees."

MacLeod said her province supports refugees but she is concerned she will not have enough funds to meet housing, health and other demands for asylum seekers without federal help.

"I have a large provincial ministry to run that includes children with autism, it includes children in care, it includes women fleeing domestic violence, It includes human trafficking," she said.

"It keeps me up at night when I think of the resources that I have to expend elsewhere and I can't help those people as well. I am simply asking them to fix the problems that they have created with their federal policies."

• Axworthy calls on feds to suspend Safe Third Country Agreement

• Quebec blocks asylum seekers from public daycare network, alarming advocates

Hussen told Canada's premiers that "the government of Canada will have your back" on backstopping the resources needed to deal with the spike in the number of asylum seekers arriving at unofficial border crossing points between Canada and the U.S.

He said $50 million has been set aside for that and the money will begin flowing at the end of the month. In the meantime, he said, Canada is obligated to adhere to the law.

"On the issue of calling these people illegal," Hussen said, "asylum seekers have a legal right, and Canada has signed international obligations ... we have the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

"Once someone is on Canadian soil and claims asylum, we have an obligation domestically and internationally to grant them a fair hearing."

Hussen said the Ontario government's suggestion that irregular border crossers are illegal serves to demonize them in the eyes of other newcomers and Canadians at large.

"I can assure you on behalf of Canadians I will fight back against that narrative of fear with facts."


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/rally-safe-third-country-agreement-winnipeg-trump-1.4743060

Axworthy calls on feds to suspend Safe Third Country Agreement

People at Winnipeg rally say U.S. now a dangerous place for migrants, their kids

Austin Grabish · CBC News · Posted: Jul 11, 2018 10:23 PM CT

Lloyd Axworthy said Canada needs to suspend the Safe Third Country Agreement it has with the United States, which requires asylum seekers to make their claim for refuge in the first "safe" country they arrive in. Critics argue the U.S. is no longer safe for migrants. (Travis Golby/CBC)


Former Liberal foreign affairs minister Lloyd Axworthy called on the Trudeau government to suspend the Safe Third Country Agreement with the United States as people rallied and placed paper cutouts of children on the steps of the Manitoba legislature Wednesday night.

• Hussen says he's open to changing border pact with U.S. — but won't say how
• Judge rejects Trump request for long-term detention of immigrant children​

"The more they hear from people like this, the more they'll see that this is not just a political transaction, this is a real question of defending our rights," Axworthy said in an interview with CBC at the rally.

Axworthy, who is the current chair of the World Refugee Council, said while getting out of an agreement isn't easy, it's high time Canada did so.

"If the United States returns to a place where refugees can get a fair hearing, then fine, but right now, they are engaged in a total and complete reneging on all the fundamental commitments of refugee law and treaties and agreements and we should not be part of it."

Humaira Jaleel brought her kids to the rally. She said she wanted them to be aware of the plight of migrant children in the U.S. (Travis Golby/CBC)

• How the Safe Third Country Agreement is changing lives

The controversial Safe Third Country Agreement requires asylum seekers to claim refuge in the first "safe" country they arrive in and was created to prevent people from so-called asylum shopping.

Critics have argued since Trump took office in 2017 the United States is no longer a safe place for refugees and Canada should let asylum seekers show up at the border to make their case instead of sneaking into the country.

Risking lives to sneak into Canada

"Whether we like it or not refugees are coming through either way. Refugees such as our speakers tonight have been crossing the border in minus 40 and in the blazing hot of the summer," argued Micaela Crighton, a University of Winnipeg student who helped organize the rally.

Razak Iyal spent time behind bars in the United States while he waited for his asylum claim to be heard and eventually sneaked into Canada in the dead of winter to make his case. He was granted refugee status and now lives in Winnipeg but the walk in 2016 cost him all his fingers, which he lost to frostbite. (Travis Golby/CBC)

Crighton was referring to people like Razak Iyal who made international headlines after he lost all his fingers while crossing into Canada in the dead of winter in 2016 in a bid for asylum.

• Refugee will lose fingers, after 7-hour trek to cross U.S.-Canada border

"We were scared and we were afraid like when we go there [the Canadian border] they would turn us back and we might end up going to the prison or detention centre back in the State[s] again," explained Iyal who spent time behind bars in a U.S. detention centre while he waited for a judge to hear his case.

Iyal saw first-hand in 2013 how asylum seekers were treated under the then Obama administration — he had to wear an orange jumpsuit like convicted criminals and pay thousands of dollars to get released.

He doesn't like the recent separation of migrant children from their families in the U.S. and called on the Trudeau government to act.

The cutouts are petitions to Immigration Minister Ahmed Hussen. They call on him to rescind the Safe Third Country Agreement and will dropped off at MP Jim Carr's office in Winnipeg. (Travis Golby/CBC)

"I think people have to know what is going on and we want Canadian government to put more pressure on that."

About 75 people including kids showed up at the rally. They placed toys on the steps on the legislature to represent migrant children who have been separated from their parents in the U.S. and filled out cutouts of children with mini petitions addressed to Immigration Minister Ahmed Hussen. Some held Amnesty International signs calling on the U.S. government to stop separating children and posters that read "Can you hear the children crying? #KeepFamiliesTogether."

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Rally outside the Manitoba Legislature calls on ⁦@HonAhmedHussen⁩ to rescind the Safe Third Country Agreement with the United States. People at the rally say Trump’s America is not safe for refugees. #cbcmb

7:46 PM - Jul 11, 2018

"I wanted them to know that you know children like them and families like us are going through so much and because we are in Canada we got it going good here that it becomes our responsibility to actually stand up for those who cannot speak for themselves," said Humaira Jaleel who brought her four kids and husband to the rally.

• Trudeau calls Trump's child separation policy 'wrong' 

The cutouts of children will be dropped off at MP Jim Carr's office with the hope he'll take the message back to his colleagues in Ottawa.

Hussen has said the government is working to determine the impact Trump's administration is having on migrants and has said the 14-year-old Safe Third Country Agreement is working in Canada's interests but should be modernized.

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11 Comments 

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Mike Smith

The Ax is a Lib plant. Getting the ball rolling for JT.

Brad Milton

@Mike Smith That's always been his role, aside from turning a blind eye to protect private interests...An idea from a bygone era with a thin veneer of practised integrity.

  

David James

Lloyd who again?

  

Myron deNiverville

Sure, why not suspend the agreement. Let them all just come rolling across the border. We have all kinds of money and accommodations for them. Never mind all the homeless people already living in Canada.

  

gary gerard

Trump is showing the world how easy it is getting out of an agreement...to hell with repercussions

  

Brad Milton

Lloyd Axworthy is an inflated hyp0-cri7ical windbag.

  

Brad Milton

Human rights start at home, Lloyd baby.

Brad Milton

@Brad Milton ...In our cities, our institutions and corridors.

  

M.Ann Morwood

Oh yea, and Canada is just so much better! Mr Ax better do some research!

Just another ploy for the open arms welcome, come one come all, and yes another reason to increase the taxes again, lets support the whole world. Come on people, we have starving Canadian children and adults, unemployment is rampant, people, including families are homeless, the lucky (or unlucky for the senior parents) move in with their parents, businesses closing down, can't afford to keep the door open. We threw the armed forces personnel out of their barracks to accommodate them, we have temporary accommodations set up in every unlikely place you can think of, there are no longer subsidized housing units for seniors or families in need and you want to open the borders to everyone! More tax $ needed to build accommodations specifically for refugees is unthinkable when we cannot even look after our own.

Ken Theule

@M.Ann Morwood
Tax the rich. They have lots of money.

 

Brad Milton

Justin Trudeau explained there were housing crises in Toronto and Vancouver, hence no room for the homeless in those cities. Then, as if by magic, accomodations were found for the migrants he brought in.