David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Methinks I figured out why Evil CBC deleted my comments about Trump's Bullshit last night Its because of what they published about Yankee folks this morning N'esy Pas?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-putin-us-maryland-essex-dundalk-edgemere-1.4751215
These Trump voters support the U.S. president's comments on Russia — and his walkback, too
Trump loyalists accept what happened in Helsinki — and his flip-flop
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Allan Campbell
In a nutshell; there you have it. People who cannot discern fact from fiction are the result of too much TV
David R. Amos
@Allan Campbell Methinks
everybody knows why I truly agree about the talking heads on the
BoobTube. I wager lots of older folks such as I still remember the
confusion of poor old Mr Beale in the old movie called "The Network"
circa 1976 or so Much truth was told in jest N'esy Pas?
.
Tanner Moorman
@Allan Campbell They listen
to the far right propaganda machine that is faux news almost every hour
of the day that they can. That’ll warp anyone’s sense of reality over
time.
David R. Amos
@Tanner Moorman Methinks a
certain left wingnut has his knickers in quite a knot today merely
because Donald and Doug (whom I call Dumb and Dumber) are far too
popular while the far from clever liberals are sinking in the polls
Small wonder why I always run as an Independent N'esy Pas?
Layton Bennett
This is what blind partisanship looks like.
Kevin Smith
@Layton Bennett,
" blind partisanship" is CBC reporting on the issue. Look at the stereotypical selection of the supporters - white, middle-aged, rural.
" blind partisanship" is CBC reporting on the issue. Look at the stereotypical selection of the supporters - white, middle-aged, rural.
David R. Amos
@Layton Bennett YUP
David R. Amos
@Kevin Smith I concur
Rob Lehtisaari
Admonition that Donald Trump is a traitor to the voters that support & elected him would be to admit that they were wrong about Hillary R. Clinton when they chanted "lock her up !", and that they were wrong about Donald Trump...and they were wrong about President Barack Obama & well some people can admit a single wrong, or two, but to admit a whole wrong World view point is just iconoclastic !
After all America was great when President Barack Obama reversed the negative recession handed him by GW Bush, and created the greatest unemployment rate's & trend that is still following those trends set by his Presidency...but Donald takes credit for...much as Stephen Harper did for Paul Martins good financial navigation for Canada.
It's hard for some people to admit a single wrong, but they would have to change their whole life to admit they were wrong entirely about their political, economic, & health care crisis by trusting Donald Trump--a man that has burned every person that has laid their trust in him, be it ex wife, lawyer, business partner, investor, employee, contractor, Bank lender, Trump University student, US Republican Party...etc. etc.
David R. Amos
@Rob Lehtisaari Methinks you
should ask yourself why your comments against Trump stand the test of
time yet the ones I made yesterday after Trump did his press conference
were gone this morning even after being read and commented on N'esy Pas?
@David R. Amos It’s because all you do is tr oll here David.
David R. Amos
@Tanner Moorman So you say EH?
BTW Methinks a fellow so called "Troll" should address me as Mr Amos because we are obviously not friends At least I had the sand to run for public office five times thus far and sue the Crown as well (FYI I just got another judgement today check the docket records of the Federal Court of Appeal if you know how to) In all sincerity I suspect that you done nothing other than insult people such as I and I doubt that is your real name as per CBC's rules N'esy Pas?
Nigel Marshall
People whose opinions are not based on facts do not change their opinions because of facts, either.
David R. Amos
@Nigel Marshall "People whose opinions are not based on facts do not change their opinions because of facts, either."
Methinks those folks are called politicians N'esy Pas?
Methinks those folks are called politicians N'esy Pas?
I agree with the comment below. You can't fix stupid. Trumps support
base are clueless about the world around them. Americans, please get a
grip on this fool. He will bankrupt us all.
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David R. Amos
@Bill Tucker Methinks anyone
with common sense would agree with the comment "You can't fix stupid"
The fictional Forest Gump said it best "Stupid Is As Stupid Does" that
pearl of wisdom holds particularly true for the Yankee's questionable
"stable genius" N'esy Pas?
David R. Amos
@Bill Tucker "You can't fix stupid."
Methinks you have enjoyed my rely but CBC decided that wasn't to be Hence Trump's support base are not the only folks who are clueless N'esy Pas?
Methinks you have enjoyed my rely but CBC decided that wasn't to be Hence Trump's support base are not the only folks who are clueless N'esy Pas?
Rob Lehtisaari
You can't fix stupid, but you
sure as hell can mobilize the otherwise apathetic by wise &
intelligent to go out and vote instead of allowing the stupid to choose
their leaders & Supreme court Justices to support..well the removal
of rights based on cognitive dissonance.
Get out & vote it's patriotic, and if you become informed you will be able to help your loved ones, community, state/province, and nation.
Get out & vote it's patriotic, and if you become informed you will be able to help your loved ones, community, state/province, and nation.
David R. Amos
@Rob Lehtisaari "Get out
& vote it's patriotic, and if you become informed you will be able
to help your loved ones, community, state/province, and nation."
Please read pages 1 through 5 then consider what you wrote
https://www.scribd.com/document/2619437/CROSS-BORDER
Please read pages 1 through 5 then consider what you wrote
https://www.scribd.com/document/2619437/CROSS-BORDER
Andrew Hebda (NS)
He is neither a Prophet or a
Messiah, yet his supporters treat him as if he can do no wrong... These
are dangerous waters and dark days... when politicians are selected by
and supported by the "illiterati"
Jim Mason
@Andrew Hebda (NS) : Uneducated people are easy to lead. Drumpf = keeping Americans stupid.
Garfield Stephenson Wu
@Jim Mason Not just the loose
cannon in the White House. The GOP is also complicit in keeping
Americans ill-informed of modern-day values and knowledge the rest of
the world has already gotten their hands on.
Grand
Obsolete
Party
Grand
Obsolete
Party
David R. Amos
@Garfield Stephenson Wu "The GOP is also complicit in keeping Americans ill-informed of modern-day values"
Methinks many folks would agree that the Democrats are every bit as bad if not worse N'esy Pas?
Methinks many folks would agree that the Democrats are every bit as bad if not worse N'esy Pas?
Bryan Atkinson
It started a couple of decades ago:
Trump agreed to launder Russian oligarch money thru real estate and business transactions. With Trump receiving a generous percentage as front man. That's pretty much common knowledge.
It grew into political aspirations with GRU handlers covertly involved from the beginning. The reason Trump is so afraid of his election win being questioned is because he knows the extent of the collusion.
Which means Trump is not only compromised, as President he's sitting on a gold mine of information. I'd assume all pertinent information Trump access to has already been passed on to Russian military intelligence.
Don't think Trump would do it? What if the Russian mob threatened to harm a member of his family? There's nowhere Trump can go for help without confessing his treachery and suffering the consequences. Except Russia.
This is real world and the stakes couldn't be higher. Putin was KGB and never got over Reagan taking down the Soviet Union. As long as Trump is US President, Western security and lives are at risk.
David R. Amos
@Bryan Atkinson Methinks many
ghosts would agree that the malicious nonsense began over a hundred
years ago with President Woodrow Wilson and The Federal Reserve Act (ch.
6, 38 Stat. 251, enacted December 23, 1913, 12 U.S.C. §§ 221 to 522),
the same Act of Congress, the IRS, WWI and the beginnings of the Soviet
Union etc. Obama and the Boyz renewed the Federal Reserve Bank's
Charter five years ago and nobody registered his indignation except me.
Trust that many people know that Trump is just the latest player
supporting the Banksters. Anyone can use Google to see what I say is
true N'esy Pas?
John Dirlik
In the real world, Trump took Putin's word over that of his country's own intelligence services.
In Trumpland, the Donald merely misspoke.
In the real world, North Korea gave Trump its middle finger by brazen nuclear tests culminating in intercontinental capability, and can now negotiate from a position of strength.
In Trumpland, the Donald's intimidating gravitas bullied Kim Jong-un to the negotiating table.
In the real world, Obama convincing Iran to denuclearization was denounced by Trump as the "worst deal in history."
In Trumpland, the Donald convincing North Korea to do the same is deliriously paraded as a historic victory made possible by Trump's unparalleled deal-making prowess.
In Trumpland's topsy turvy world, up is down, facts become immaterial and wishes turn true. It is bigly fun.
@John Dirlik "In Trumpland's topsy turvy world, up is down, facts become immaterial and wishes turn true. It is bigly fun.
I repeat Welcome to the Circus
I repeat Welcome to the Circus
Peter Day
There is nothing Trump could
do to lose these people. If there was they would have been long gone a
couple years ago. There are none so blind as those who will not see.
David R. Amos
@Peter Day "There is nothing Trump could do to lose these people."
Methinks you should never lose you faith in mankind just because some journalists selects certain folks to quote it does not follow all Yankees agree with them. In my humble opinion the world got lucky when Hillary lost. Trust that Trump's constant BS will cause his own defeat in the end and that of the GOP as well if they don't clue in real soon. Perhaps in 2020 some semblance of democracy and justice may surface in the the US of A but I ain't betting on it when I know for fact the politicians in Canada are no better than the Yankees. Where is Superman when ya need him N'esy Pas?
https://twitter.com/DavidRayAmos/with_replies
David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Methinks things got truly wicked on my birthday CBC for his benefit even deleted my comments about Trump's Bullshit last night Very strange N'esy Pas? Please Compare
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/congress-rebukes-trump-embrace-of-putin-1.4750125
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/congress-rebukes-trump-embrace-of-putin-1.4750125
After Putin summit outrage, Trump says he accepts finding that Russia meddled
Mitch McConnell says it's 'indisputable' that Russia meddled in 2016
Thomson Reuters · Posted: Jul 17, 2018 1:02 PM ET
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Dave Ryan
Trump will be giving a press
conference at 2 pm today. I really cannot wait to see what contortion
he will come up with to save face. It should be a doozy. LOL
David R. Amos
@Dave Ryan Methinks at the
risk of being redundant to the chagrin of my political foes who type
lots of opinions in CBC's domain. I should be allowed me to state what
is on my mind on my birthday N'esy Pas?
Welcome to the Circus
Welcome to the Circus
Kavous Niamir
@Lou Parks
Improve relations with Russia?
Oh OK. So that's what Trump is trying to do. Now I get it. Damned, why couldn't anyone except you see it for what it is?
I tell you what, now that we got that figured out, I'd say he'd have a better chance, if he gave Putin a foot massage.
Improve relations with Russia?
Oh OK. So that's what Trump is trying to do. Now I get it. Damned, why couldn't anyone except you see it for what it is?
I tell you what, now that we got that figured out, I'd say he'd have a better chance, if he gave Putin a foot massage.
James Rielly
@Lou Parks So yesterday you
and your compatriots in insanity agreed with would,and today you are all
agreeing with wouldn't .Gotta wonder who the sheep are...not.
Inas Johnson
@Dave Ryan
Haters need evidence. You know -facts...
Haters need evidence. You know -facts...
Nav Saloojee
@Dave Ryan
What is the problem? Trump was just meeting with his handler to receive instructions.
What is the problem? Trump was just meeting with his handler to receive instructions.
David R. Amos
@Nav Saloojee "What is the problem?"
Methinks that you are not nearly as funny as David Frum is N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/thenational/david-frum-trump-s-behaviour-consistent-with-putin-having-a-hold-on-him-1.4751250
Methinks that you are not nearly as funny as David Frum is N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/thenational/david-frum-trump-s-behaviour-consistent-with-putin-having-a-hold-on-him-1.4751250
Dax Randall
Americans are embarrassed.
Canada supports the people of the USA in spite of Trump.
Canada supports the people of the USA in spite of Trump.
Eugene D Burles
@Bob Drayer
“Most Americans are just like him.”
Not most, just way too many.
“Most Americans are just like him.”
Not most, just way too many.
David R. Amos
@Eugene D Burles Methinks
talk is cheap on the Internet I bet many people would pay to see you say
such things to those Yankees while you are standing toe to toe with
them N'esy Pas?
Travis Ladwin
@David R. Amos
Ugh you are here in evenings as well, methinks someone lives their lives on the internet so shouldn't talk about cheap talk on the Internet, N'esy Pas?
Ugh you are here in evenings as well, methinks someone lives their lives on the internet so shouldn't talk about cheap talk on the Internet, N'esy Pas?
David R. Amos
@Travis Ladwin Methinks you must have been talking to a ghost night N'esy Pas?
Sam Ting
Why doesn't someone call for a
passage that will remove Trump from office. CLEARLY he is not fit to
be the president of anything let alone the USofA!
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David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Sam Ting Methinks you should
relax and enjoy the circus Trump will tweet and yap himself out of
office if he doesn't give himself a stroke first N'esy Pas?
Nav Saloojee
@Sam Ting
America has the government they deserve. I
America has the government they deserve. I
David R. Amos
@Nav Saloojee I concur
Teresa Herbert
He could never admit to
Russia interfering with the election, because if he did, it would mean
he didn't win the vote truly by himself. Therefore he didn't 'win'. He
will never admit this. If he does it will mean he failed.
He has Narcissistic personality disorder - characterized by their persistent grandiosity, excessive need for admiration, and a personal disdain and lack of empathy for other people. As such, the person with NPD usually displays arrogance and a distorted sense of superiority, and they seek to establish abusive power and control over others.
Self-confidence (a strong sense of self) is different from narcissistic personality disorder; people with NPD typically value themselves over others to the extent that they openly disregard the feelings and wishes of others, and expect to be treated as superior, regardless of their actual status or achievements.
Moreover, the person with narcissistic personality disorder usually exhibits a fragile ego (self-concept), intolerance of criticism, and a tendency to belittle others in order to validate their own superiority.
If this doesn't truly define him to a T, I don't know what will.
He has Narcissistic personality disorder - characterized by their persistent grandiosity, excessive need for admiration, and a personal disdain and lack of empathy for other people. As such, the person with NPD usually displays arrogance and a distorted sense of superiority, and they seek to establish abusive power and control over others.
Self-confidence (a strong sense of self) is different from narcissistic personality disorder; people with NPD typically value themselves over others to the extent that they openly disregard the feelings and wishes of others, and expect to be treated as superior, regardless of their actual status or achievements.
Moreover, the person with narcissistic personality disorder usually exhibits a fragile ego (self-concept), intolerance of criticism, and a tendency to belittle others in order to validate their own superiority.
If this doesn't truly define him to a T, I don't know what will.
Tanner Moorman
@Pat Smith You just made his
point for him. A broken system that isn’t fairly representative of it’s
electorate. First past the post and the electoral college.
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David R. Amos
@Karen King "The Electoral College is a joke"
The whole thing is a joke. Get it yet Lady?
Methinks many ghosts would agree that democracy and justice are myths N'esy Pas?
The whole thing is a joke. Get it yet Lady?
Methinks many ghosts would agree that democracy and justice are myths N'esy Pas?
David R. Amos
@Tanner Moorman "You just made his point for him."
Methinks that democracy and justice are myths N'esy Pas?
Methinks that democracy and justice are myths N'esy Pas?
Brent Grywinski
Trump still thinks it was a
great meeting with Putin while everyone else still connected to reality
saw it was an absolute disaster. Trump is Putin's poodle.
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David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Brent Grywinski "Trump is Putin's poodle."
How so particularly after he changed his tune today?
How so particularly after he changed his tune today?
Andrew Hebda (NS)
@Brent Grywinski
Putin's Poodle? I don't think so, As a breed, poodles are supposed to be very intelligent and perceptive
Putin's Poodle? I don't think so, As a breed, poodles are supposed to be very intelligent and perceptive
David R. Amos
@Andrew Hebda (NS) I agree
Graham Greene
The USA has taken down better men for far less reason . .
. . . .
. . . .
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David R. Amos
@Pat Smith 'I thought Nixon was bad but he pales in comparison to Donnie."
Methinks that you hate The Donald so much that you want others to think it is ok to believe Nixon when he claimed he was not a crook about Watergate and politicking but wish to forget he had rained bombs on people he was not at war with N'esy Pas?
Methinks I should be surprised that CBC published your comment and allow it it to stand until closing time while blocking every one of mine after they had been read buy we all know why I am not N'esy Pas?
Methinks that you hate The Donald so much that you want others to think it is ok to believe Nixon when he claimed he was not a crook about Watergate and politicking but wish to forget he had rained bombs on people he was not at war with N'esy Pas?
David R. Amos
@Graham Greene Sad But Oh So True However that does not justify what you imply.Methinks I should be surprised that CBC published your comment and allow it it to stand until closing time while blocking every one of mine after they had been read buy we all know why I am not N'esy Pas?
Ray Stas
It was surreal to watch Trump at the presser deny colluding while colluding with Putin in the same instance.
Orange quantum something?
Orange quantum something?
Robert Lee
@Ray Stas
Conservatives.
They're all to blame for this drama.
Conservatives.
They're all to blame for this drama.
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David R. Amos
@Robert Lee Methinks you forgot tat the Democrats are to blame too N'esy Pas?
David R. Amos
@Ray Stas I agree. It was incredibly comical
Fred Engle
This man should not be potus.
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David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Fred Engle "This man should not be potus."
Methinks he was duly elected and still very popular N'esy Pas?
Methinks he was duly elected and still very popular N'esy Pas?
Bryan Atkinson
Ya gotta luv the British tabloids. They're calling Trump, Putin's Poodle.
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David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Lily O'Loughlin "George Orwell would have come up with'
Methinks his ghost is likely laughing as hard as I am right now N'esy Pas?
Methinks his ghost is likely laughing as hard as I am right now N'esy Pas?
Sam Ting
Sleeper agent, Putin an Trump. At least it looks like Trump left his meeting with Putin with one ball.
Mark Tynthof
@Sam Ting Sleeper cell!
Trump along with Manafort, Flynn, etc. just waiting for the right moment
to attack U.S. democratic institutions...
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David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@Mark Tynthof Methinks thou doth jest too much N'esy Pas?
These Trump voters support the U.S. president's comments on Russia — and his walkback, too
Trump loyalists accept what happened in Helsinki — and his flip-flop
Words failed Donald Trump. But to some of his staunchest
voters, at least the U.S. president hasn't failed them — not even after
Trump's shambolic press conference in Finland.
Trump on Monday endorsed Russian President Vladimir Putin's "powerful" denial about Russian meddling in the U.S. election, undermining his own intelligence community in the process. Republican and Democratic critics panned Trump's performance as "shameful," "disgraceful" and "treasonous" before Trump touched down on U.S. soil.
Amid the furor, Trump claimed he misspoke, issuing a clarification on Tuesday: "I accept" American intelligence conclusions, Trump said, somewhat reversing the earlier statements he made under Putin's gaze. (Trump also hedged that wording, adding, "Could be other people also.")
Staunch Trump supporters in a blue-collar pocket of Maryland were unmoved either way, shrugging off Trump's initial remarks favouring Putin's denial, lauding the president for correcting a "wrong," and rationalizing Russia's interference in the U.S. democratic system by noting the U.S.'s own history of using money and propaganda to sway elections.
About
90 minutes outside Washington, D.C., in eastern Baltimore
County, CBC News interviewed Trump loyalists in blue-collar
Essex, Edgemere and Dundalk, communities that heavily favoured Trump in
the 2016 Republican primary.
Here's what they said:
Carl Hobson, 79, is known for hanging oversized Trump campaign banners outside his gas station in Edgemere, Md. (Jason Burles/CBC)
Carl
Hobson, 79, is a familiar face at the Boulevard Diner in the former
manufacturing town of Dundalk. Regulars at the gas station he's operated
since 1964 know him as "the mayor of Edgemere," the community less than
10 minutes away, just over the Bear Creek bridge.
"You know that the Russians definitely interfered with the elections," he acknowledged. "It's nothing new. They've been doing it for years. And [Trump] didn't look at Putin and say, 'Hey, you're lying.' He negotiates different than every other politician."
The way Hobson sees it, Trump's apparent patronage of Putin on Monday was part of a grand strategy. Sure, Hobson reasons, Trump said on Monday that he believed Putin over his own intelligence community. But that doesn't mean he didn't "put America first," he says.
"If he accepted [Putin's] word on that, it would give [Trump] room to go to other places and fix other problems."
Hobson's politics are well-known around these parts. He made headlines in the area for hanging oversized Trump campaign signs below the fuel prices at his gas station.
As for his reaction to Trump walking back his defence of Putin and saying he now accepts American intel?
"I think he accepted it all along," Hobson says. "He was saying what he was saying to appease Putin because he's got other things in mind."
There are bigger concerns than Russia, he says, like purportedly large-scale voter fraud — a vanishingly rare phenomenon political scientists have debunked as a myth. Still, Hobson worries about non-citizens gaming the system.
"Does that ring your bell? It rings mine."
Ashlee Draper, 30, and her son, Grayson, 3, pumping gas at Hob's gas station in Edgemere, Maryland. (Jason Burles/CBC)
While
pumping gas at the Hob's Carrol Fuel gas station with her
three-year-old, Grayson, Ashlee Draper, 30, said she isn't sure whether
Russia is an adversary, despite evidence showing Russian operatives
interfered with the 2016 election.
"With everything going on in the world, you can't be enemies with anybody."
She appreciates Trump "walking on ice" around Putin, suggesting his cozy attitude was more about "just trying to keep things calm."
If Russia is a true enemy to the U.S., "I think he's honestly just keeping his enemies closer, to watch them," she said.
Putin may be a friend to the U.S. today — and Trump just wants to keep it that way.
"Anybody can turn at any time. Even my son's an angel one day, a nightmare the next day."
Tom,
a customer at a gas station in Edgemere, Md., says it's 'smart' of
Trump to befriend Putin. 'What’s wrong with being friends with Russia,
China, Japan, Korea, North Korea? What’s wrong with that? We can all get
along.' (Jason Burles/CBC)
"I pray for him
every day. I really do. Him and his family," says Tom, clutching a bag
filled with Marlboro Blacks and a handful of
random-pick Powerball tickets at the Hob's gas station.
Tom, who didn't give his last name out of fear of being targeted by "crazy, violent liberals," says Trump is doing what he can to run a country at a time when he feels conservatives are under attack. The criticism of the Trump-Putin summit is unfounded, he said, because diplomacy doesn't work by "making an ass out of somebody on the world stage."
"You cannot build a relationship with somebody if you jump in their crap in a world audience — if you embarrass them."
The 60-year-old former truck driver doesn't believe intensifying theories that Putin may have compromising information on Trump. Nor does he understand conservative media like Fox News "turning against" the president by criticizing his behaviour at Monday's news conference.
"What do they want? Would they be happy with a war?"
So far, he's happy with Trump's tax reforms, his Supreme Court picks and restrictions on immigration. He favours shutting the U.S. border completely amid concerns about illegal migrants and wants the border wall. What he doesn't want, he said, is confrontations over politics.
Any "crazy liberals" who come after him will be in for a surprise, he warned.
"A Second Amendment surprise."
John
McCluskey, 37, says he believes there may have been a grander strategy
behind why U.S. President Donald Trump sided with Russian leader
Vladimir Putin's assertion that the Kremlin had no part in meddling in
the 2016 U.S. election. (Jason Burles/CBC)
John McCluskey,
37, does home-improvement work around the Dundalk area. It pays well
enough, he said, and he wonders whether it's fair for the media to beat
up on Trump over foreign policy and Russia when the U.S. economy feels
like it's improving.
Bethlehem Steel and other plants for General Motors, Lever Brothers and Seagram's left town years ago. He feels like things are picking up again, with a new Amazon warehouse having opened in Dundalk in 2015.
On the U.S. approach to Russia, McCluskey said he doesn't see why Trump has been described as meek when he sees a leader who "ain't gonna take their shit."
Asked why Trump would side with Putin on Monday over the expertise of his own American advisers, McCluskey dismissed the wisdom of the president's intelligence team.
"He's found out a lot of the people behind him are crap anyways."
Joyce
and Archer Fennelle, retirees from Essex, Md., eat dinner at the
Boulevard Diner. Regarding Trump's reversal of his earlier support for
Putin's denial about Russian meddling in the U.S. election, Joyce said:
'I give him credit for admitting he was wrong.' (Jason Burles/CBC)
Over
a plate of fettuccine Alfredo, Joyce Fennell, 73, said she sees nothing
wrong with Trump's initial support for Putin's denial, or his eventual
retraction.
"I give him credit for admitting he was wrong."
Sitting across the table, her husband, Archer, said Trump "flips all the time" with his rhetoric, but likes the overall direction the country is headed.
"What he has accomplished in what he's doing is far greater than when he speaks," Archer said. "If you take the country as a whole, what's going on, I think we're stronger."
Although Archer believes "there probably was Russian meddling" in the U.S. election, he noted that Americans have long sought to influence other elections abroad. Such was the way of the world, he said, and Americans may need to accept further Russian hacking attempts as "normal practice" for further elections to come.
If that prospect worries Joyce, she didn't show it.
"When you get to my age, you just accept what happens," she said, beckoning her husband to stop fretting about politics and finish eating.
Her pasta, she said, was getting cold.
See more of Trump's Tuesday afternoon news conference, where he addressed his Russia comments.
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'I said the word would instead of wouldn't,' he says regarding Russian interference in 2016 U.S. election. 4:37
Trump on Monday endorsed Russian President Vladimir Putin's "powerful" denial about Russian meddling in the U.S. election, undermining his own intelligence community in the process. Republican and Democratic critics panned Trump's performance as "shameful," "disgraceful" and "treasonous" before Trump touched down on U.S. soil.
Amid the furor, Trump claimed he misspoke, issuing a clarification on Tuesday: "I accept" American intelligence conclusions, Trump said, somewhat reversing the earlier statements he made under Putin's gaze. (Trump also hedged that wording, adding, "Could be other people also.")
Staunch Trump supporters in a blue-collar pocket of Maryland were unmoved either way, shrugging off Trump's initial remarks favouring Putin's denial, lauding the president for correcting a "wrong," and rationalizing Russia's interference in the U.S. democratic system by noting the U.S.'s own history of using money and propaganda to sway elections.
Here's what they said:
The 'mayor':
"You know that the Russians definitely interfered with the elections," he acknowledged. "It's nothing new. They've been doing it for years. And [Trump] didn't look at Putin and say, 'Hey, you're lying.' He negotiates different than every other politician."
The way Hobson sees it, Trump's apparent patronage of Putin on Monday was part of a grand strategy. Sure, Hobson reasons, Trump said on Monday that he believed Putin over his own intelligence community. But that doesn't mean he didn't "put America first," he says.
"If he accepted [Putin's] word on that, it would give [Trump] room to go to other places and fix other problems."
Hobson's politics are well-known around these parts. He made headlines in the area for hanging oversized Trump campaign signs below the fuel prices at his gas station.
As for his reaction to Trump walking back his defence of Putin and saying he now accepts American intel?
"I think he accepted it all along," Hobson says. "He was saying what he was saying to appease Putin because he's got other things in mind."
There are bigger concerns than Russia, he says, like purportedly large-scale voter fraud — a vanishingly rare phenomenon political scientists have debunked as a myth. Still, Hobson worries about non-citizens gaming the system.
"Does that ring your bell? It rings mine."
The mom:
"With everything going on in the world, you can't be enemies with anybody."
She appreciates Trump "walking on ice" around Putin, suggesting his cozy attitude was more about "just trying to keep things calm."
If Russia is a true enemy to the U.S., "I think he's honestly just keeping his enemies closer, to watch them," she said.
Putin may be a friend to the U.S. today — and Trump just wants to keep it that way.
"Anybody can turn at any time. Even my son's an angel one day, a nightmare the next day."
The Christian:
Tom, who didn't give his last name out of fear of being targeted by "crazy, violent liberals," says Trump is doing what he can to run a country at a time when he feels conservatives are under attack. The criticism of the Trump-Putin summit is unfounded, he said, because diplomacy doesn't work by "making an ass out of somebody on the world stage."
"You cannot build a relationship with somebody if you jump in their crap in a world audience — if you embarrass them."
The 60-year-old former truck driver doesn't believe intensifying theories that Putin may have compromising information on Trump. Nor does he understand conservative media like Fox News "turning against" the president by criticizing his behaviour at Monday's news conference.
"What do they want? Would they be happy with a war?"
So far, he's happy with Trump's tax reforms, his Supreme Court picks and restrictions on immigration. He favours shutting the U.S. border completely amid concerns about illegal migrants and wants the border wall. What he doesn't want, he said, is confrontations over politics.
Any "crazy liberals" who come after him will be in for a surprise, he warned.
"A Second Amendment surprise."
The handyman:
Bethlehem Steel and other plants for General Motors, Lever Brothers and Seagram's left town years ago. He feels like things are picking up again, with a new Amazon warehouse having opened in Dundalk in 2015.
On the U.S. approach to Russia, McCluskey said he doesn't see why Trump has been described as meek when he sees a leader who "ain't gonna take their shit."
Asked why Trump would side with Putin on Monday over the expertise of his own American advisers, McCluskey dismissed the wisdom of the president's intelligence team.
"He's found out a lot of the people behind him are crap anyways."
The retirees:
"I give him credit for admitting he was wrong."
Sitting across the table, her husband, Archer, said Trump "flips all the time" with his rhetoric, but likes the overall direction the country is headed.
"What he has accomplished in what he's doing is far greater than when he speaks," Archer said. "If you take the country as a whole, what's going on, I think we're stronger."
Although Archer believes "there probably was Russian meddling" in the U.S. election, he noted that Americans have long sought to influence other elections abroad. Such was the way of the world, he said, and Americans may need to accept further Russian hacking attempts as "normal practice" for further elections to come.
If that prospect worries Joyce, she didn't show it.
"When you get to my age, you just accept what happens," she said, beckoning her husband to stop fretting about politics and finish eating.
Her pasta, she said, was getting cold.
See more of Trump's Tuesday afternoon news conference, where he addressed his Russia comments.
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I said the word would instead of wouldn't,' he says regarding Russian interference in 2016 U.S. election. 4:37
After outrage over his failure to hold Russia accountable for interfering in the 2016 U.S. election during a meeting with President Vladimir Putin, U.S. President Donald Trump said Tuesday that he accepts the U.S. intelligence community's conclusion that Russia did in fact meddle in the election.
At a joint news conference with Putin after a summit in Helsinki on Monday, Trump stunned politicians back home by shying away from criticizing Putin for Moscow's efforts to undermine the election, contradicting the findings of American intelligence agencies.
Trump, whose summit with Putin concluded a week-long European trip that included a NATO meeting and talks with British Prime Minister Theresa May, pushed back on Tuesday at the storm of criticism, blaming media coverage.
While I had a great meeting with NATO, raising vast amounts of money, I had an even better meeting with Vladimir Putin of Russia. Sadly, it is not being reported that way - the Fake News is going Crazy!
On Monday, when asked about the meddling, Trump said that while his intelligence officials had said "they think it's Russia" that Putin "just said it's not Russia."
"I will say this: I don't see any reason why it would be," Trump said.
But back at the White House on Tuesday, he told reporters that he meant to say wouldn't instead of would. He told reporters, "The sentence should have been I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be Russia."
Would or wouldn't? Watch Trump's explanation that he misspoke in Helsinki.
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But even as he tried to clarify his previous statement and assert support for U.S. intelligence agencies, he left room for other actors to be implicated.
"I accept our intelligence community's conclusion that Russia's meddling in the 2016 election took place," Trump said. "It could be other people also, there's a lot of people out there. There was no collusion at all."
The president also said that his administration would repel any effort to interfere in the upcoming midterm elections.
'He's given them a pass'
The condemnation for his performance at the Helsinki news conference, including from many fellow Republicans, matched or eclipsed previous controversies in Trump's turbulent 18 months in office.
"The president needs to understand he has damaged U.S. foreign policy," Rep. Mike Turner, a Republican on the House intelligence committee, told CNN. "He's given them a pass and is certainly not holding them accountable for what they're doing."
"I think the Russians need to know that there are a lot of us who fully understand what happened in 2016 and it really better not happen again in 2018," the Republican leader said.
Trump also on Tuesday reiterated his message that he thinks the U.S. and Russia should work to improve relations and said that "diplomacy and engagement" is better than hostility and conflict.
Russia's government 'menacing'
Ahead of Trump's Tuesday appearance, some lawmakers said they would seek remedies in Congress.
Republican Senator Jeff Flake, a longtime Trump critic, has raised the idea of passing a resolution that would voice lawmakers' support for the U.S. intelligence community and U.S. allies.
Robert Menendez, the top Democrat on the Senate foreign relations panel, has floated a resolution similar to Flake's.
Several senators, including Republican Ben Sasse, Republican Pat Toomey, Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer and Mark Warner, the senior Democrat on the Senate intelligence panel, have backed more sanctions on Russia, but it was unclear whether Senate or House of Representatives leaders would support such a move or how new sanctions might be crafted.
"We just conducted a yearlong investigation into Russia's interference in our elections," he said. "They did interfere in our elections — it's really clear. There should be no doubt about that."
Ryan said Putin "does not share our interests ... does not share our values."
Watch Paul Ryan comment on Russian meddling in 2016.
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Enhanced election security
Schumer also called for the immediate passage of legislation to enhance election security, and reiterated calls for the Senate to hold immediate hearings to get testimony from Trump's national security team about what transpired during the private Trump-Putin meeting "so we can find out what the heck happened there."
After the president addressed the Russia issue on Tuesday, Schumer said Trump is trying to "squirm" away from his comments because he didn't have the courage to stand up to Putin in Helsinki.
U.S. intelligence agencies concluded last year that the Russian government interfered in the 2016 election campaign and sought to tilt the vote in Trump's favour, something Moscow has long denied. Special counsel Robert Mueller is probing that allegation and any possible collusion by Trump's campaign.
House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi on Tuesday called for passage of legislation increasing funding to improve the security of U.S. election equipment and prevent cyberattacks. Pelosi also wants to force a vote on the House floor on a resolution rebuking Trump's remarks in Helsinki.
Other lawmakers called for members of the Trump administration to resign in protest.
Not all Republicans were angry with the president's conduct in Helsinki. "The president did a good thing by meeting with Putin," Sen. Rand Paul told the CBS program This Morning, comments that won him public thanks from Trump on Twitter.
Russia's political and media establishment heralded the summit as a victory for Putin in breaking down Western resolve to treat Russia as a pariah.
"The West's attempts to isolate Russia failed," read the headline on a report on Monday's summit meeting in state-run newspaper Rossiisskaya Gazeta.
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With files from CBC News, The Associated Press
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