David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/philpott-resignation-1.5042965
If Jane Philpott doesn't have confidence in Justin Trudeau, why should anyone else?: Robyn Urback
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David Speed
Eventually people see there are only two truths - the real one and then the "alternative" Trudeau truth.
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David Amos
David Amos
@David Speed Do you really think Jody told the whole truth?
Reid Fleming
Pro tip: If everyone around you is "experiencing it differently," then maybe the problem is you...
Alex Forbes
@Reid Fleming Trudeau must
experience reality completely differently than everyone else around him.
But I wouldn't suspect differently since he is a Liberal.
Friday Jones
@Reid Fleming
Well, I don't care about SNC myself... big companies are dirty... that isn't news. What I am worried about is the recurring mention of "her truth" as if it's some kind of disease. When Trudeau was accused of sexually assaulting a young woman, he fell back to the "she must have remembered it differently" instead of sticking to the "she must be believed" mantra. (Now, I don't think that is necessarily 100% the way to go either, but I'm not the one that drew the line).
Now we have Trudeau tag-a-logs all saying the same... these women have their own "her truths" and therefore must have fallen ill to the same malady. This is immensely more damaging to Canada..
Well, I don't care about SNC myself... big companies are dirty... that isn't news. What I am worried about is the recurring mention of "her truth" as if it's some kind of disease. When Trudeau was accused of sexually assaulting a young woman, he fell back to the "she must have remembered it differently" instead of sticking to the "she must be believed" mantra. (Now, I don't think that is necessarily 100% the way to go either, but I'm not the one that drew the line).
Now we have Trudeau tag-a-logs all saying the same... these women have their own "her truths" and therefore must have fallen ill to the same malady. This is immensely more damaging to Canada..
David Amos
@Reid Fleming Pro Tip Pretend that you are at the circus then you will understand the problem.
Stephen David
Spin any way you want but the bottom line is this....the Liberals are in serious doo-doo.
James Timberly
@Lani Weber "You think the World Bank was merely part of partisan bickering? Wake up."
There's nothing partisan about a liberal voter complaining both about what the liberal PM appears to have done while also pointing out that the liberal led justice department also has done something wrong that contributes to the debacle. Accusing people who are making logical points of "partisan bickering" is ... partisan bickering in and of itself.
There's nothing partisan about a liberal voter complaining both about what the liberal PM appears to have done while also pointing out that the liberal led justice department also has done something wrong that contributes to the debacle. Accusing people who are making logical points of "partisan bickering" is ... partisan bickering in and of itself.
Wayne Underhill
@James Timberly When I asked
my MP, what would you do to save jobs and pensions, he couldn't answer.
So under the tories we can expect that Canadians will shoved under the
bus, but that's what tories do!
@Stephen David Oh So True
Edward Water
The Liberals seem intent to
spin this story as one revolving around savings 1000's of jobs. That is
not what this story is about at all. The issue is the alleged political
interference AFTER the DPP had ruled that a DPA was not going to be
offered to SMC-Lavalin AND the AG had determined not to overrule the
DPP's determination. Once those TWO determinations had been made any
further attempts to get the AG to change their mind was inappropriate at
best and may be obstruction of justice.
Kevin Routledge
@Edward Water Absolutely
correct. And if jobs are to be lost, the fault lies at the feet of
SMC-Lavelin management who decided to use bribery and graft as an
acceptable means of doing business and not the AG for refusing to cut
them slack for doing so.
Brad Mercier
@James Holden
And you base this opinion on what exactly?
And you base this opinion on what exactly?
David Amos
@Edward Water That is the
issue they wish us to consider in a nutshell However there is much more
to it that nobody will talk about. (Federal Court File No T-1557-15)
Neil Gregory
Gee, Robyn, you finally figured it out?
To suggest that we question the wisdom of trusting the inexperienced MP from the Liberal back benches, who had never, ever sat in a Cabinet meeting, and had no proven leadership abilities when he became PM on the strength of a famous name from a by-gone era, comes about four years too late.
To suggest that we question the wisdom of trusting the inexperienced MP from the Liberal back benches, who had never, ever sat in a Cabinet meeting, and had no proven leadership abilities when he became PM on the strength of a famous name from a by-gone era, comes about four years too late.
Guy Stone
@Neil Gregory The Liberals
should kick Trudeau out. Remove the inexperienced MPs. Replace with
high integrity business people (they do have lots)... Then I may vote
for them. PS Judy and Jane should get top jobs - everyone in Canada
(NDP, Conservative, or Liberal) will trust them. As soon as Trudeau
says a female isn't telling the truth ... you know she is telling the
truth
Wayne Underhill
@Guy Stone High integrity business people? Whew!!
David Amos
@Wayne Underhill ROTFLMAO
mo bennett
@David Amos did your cat walk on your keyboard? messy paws?
Tim O'Day
Open your eyes Canada. 33
remaining cabinet ministers believe in corruption, bribery, prostitution
and ignoring the rule of law by trying to manipulate the AG. How can
anyone vote for ANY of these MPs who continue to support Trudeau? They
are in this only for,themselves. They will never serve Canadians best
interests.
Jovian Monty
@Tim O'Day
It's not about Trudeau, it's about a system that serves Imperialism and the rich, while impoverishing people who actually work for a living, making us pay for their wars.
It's not about Trudeau, it's about a system that serves Imperialism and the rich, while impoverishing people who actually work for a living, making us pay for their wars.
Vincent Mantooth
@Jovian Monty The Liberal's
version of "the rich" are actually what we used to call the middle
class. Our taxes are going to fund untenable spending levels and bloated
social benefits such as the CCB.
David Rothery
@Vincent Mantooth CBC fixed it for you :)
David Amos
@Tim O'Day Hmmmm If Jane Philpott doesn't have confidence in Justin Trudeau, why should anyone else?
Methinks whereas CBC asked the question perhaps the Prime Minister will answer it N'esy Pas?
Methinks whereas CBC asked the question perhaps the Prime Minister will answer it N'esy Pas?
Richard Dekkar
Looking at the recent polls, I think the astonishing question is: how could 31% still be supporting Trudeau?
Wayne Underhill
@Kate Laurie You have just taken the very first step in your personal freedom. Look sheep! You too can do it!
Dutch Diefenbaker
@Mark Walen Cooper Hey Mark,
don't forget it was Trudeau who picked them for being such perfect
Liberals, in his own likeness. Guess another "oops"!
David Amos
@Richard Dekkar"how could 31% still be supporting Trudeau?"
Methinks its because their opposition are not one bit better N'esy Pas?
Methinks its because their opposition are not one bit better N'esy Pas?
carl boben
"If Jane Philpott doesn't have confidence in Justin Trudeau, why should anyone else?"
We shouldn't
We shouldn't
Nick Cash
@carl boben
Freeland supports the PM. That all that matters and her support Trumps Philpott.
Freeland supports the PM. That all that matters and her support Trumps Philpott.
Nicolas Krinis
@Nick Cash I don't think so. It was quite the display of a sycophant listening to her speak about how loyal she is to Trudeau.
Dima Elman
@Nick Cash IF somebody
resembles Trump , this somebody's name is Justin Trudeau - from very
rich family, never needed to work in his life, having all needed
connections since being born, does not understand meaning of rules (and
laws), does not respect "regular joes".
@carl boben Methinks Trudeau the Younger should answer that question N'esy Pas?
Roger Andrews
Trudeau must resign
Dima Elman
@Nick Cash Trudeau is not a
politician. If he were politician he would never allow to the scandal
reach its current heights. Trudeau is never grown up spoiled kid.
Younger version of Trump if you wish.
Steve Burton
@Dima Elman At least Trump
made his way to the top of his field three different times (top
real-estate tycoon, highest rated show for 7 seasons, winning the
presidency against the combined DNC/MSM). Trudeau was a failed drama
teacher/bouncer/snow board instructor.
David Amos
@Steve Burton If Trudeau The Younger is such a failure how to you explain the fact that he is the Prime Minister?
DANIEL YELLE
-Dozens of unkept electoral promises.
-Massive deficits, one after the other
-One billion for his ''refugees'' and 10 million for Omar Khadr.
-The appalling pipeline mess.
-Obstruction of justice with the Jody Wilson Raybould affair to protect a ''Too big to fail'' company. Which would be like putting in place a second justice system for the big companies,,
-And now some economists are saying a recession is coming......
-With his diploma in literature Justin Trudeau is surely the least qualified prime Minister in history.
Great Job Justin! Way to go champ!....
-Massive deficits, one after the other
-One billion for his ''refugees'' and 10 million for Omar Khadr.
-The appalling pipeline mess.
-Obstruction of justice with the Jody Wilson Raybould affair to protect a ''Too big to fail'' company. Which would be like putting in place a second justice system for the big companies,,
-And now some economists are saying a recession is coming......
-With his diploma in literature Justin Trudeau is surely the least qualified prime Minister in history.
Great Job Justin! Way to go champ!....
Adam Gajewski
@Frederick Dainard
NO ONE should have any confidence in Mr. Trudeau after he FAILED to follow his election promise to scrap FPTP voting system.
NO ONE should have any confidence in Mr. Trudeau after he FAILED to follow his election promise to scrap FPTP voting system.
Dima Elman
@DANIEL YELLE you cut your
list of accomplishments too short - almost all foreign trips (starting
with India trip and ending with Christmas at Bahamas at Aga Khan place)
are to be added. Should i mention elbowing fellow MP?
David Amos
@Dima Elman Methinks you forgot a few as well N'esy Pas?
If Jane Philpott doesn't have confidence in Justin Trudeau, why should anyone else?: Robyn Urback
She can't be written off as a minister disgruntled about a demotion. Or an opposition leader out for blood.
If your stomach can handle it, spend a
few minutes listening to the interview Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia
Freeland gave to CBC's Ottawa Morning last week, the day after Jody Wilson-Raybould testified before the House of Commons justice committee.
Wilson-Raybould, you'll recall, spent the previous afternoon meticulously filleting the prime minister's credibility on the SNC-Lavalin file, calling the pressure on her to seek a remediation agreement for the company in its criminal case "consistent and sustained." Wilson-Raybould manoeuvred the knife like a Michelin-star chef, placing Justin Trudeau at the centre of the alleged influence campaign.
That's why it was so off-putting to listen to Freeland, speaking to radio host Robyn Bresnahan the next morning, slobbering over the bones Wilson-Raybould had left behind when she exited the committee room last Wednesday.
"Of course I support the prime minister 100 per cent," Freeland said, adding she was "clearly of the view that the prime minister would never apply improper pressure."
That was despite what the former attorney general described in assiduous detail the day prior.
Freeland lauded the decision for Trudeau to waive solicitor-client privilege and cabinet confidentiality as an "exercise in democracy." (Though it was only a partial waiver, which ostensibly should make it only a partial exercise in democracy.) And she dodged the question of whether she believed Wilson-Raybould's testimony, saying: "I believe that she spoke — as she said she wanted to do — her truth."
During
nearly four hours of testimony last week, Wilson-Raybould said the
pressure exerted on her in regards to SNC-Lavalin was 'consistent and
sustained.' (Chris Wattie/Reuters)
You
have to listen to the interview to appreciate the full effect, but
suffice to say, it was the sort of sycophantic performance
characteristic of — and perfected in — the early days of #TeamTrudeau.
Freeland didn't just pledge her allegiance to the prime minister (which, granted, you sort of have to do as a cabinet member), she actually extolled his handling of the affair — as if the conflicting messages, sloppy smear jobs and clumsy attempts at obfuscation never happened.
Freeland was gushing over a plate of bones, trying to convince us they still looked tasty.
Contrast that with the statement released by Philpott on Monday, when she announced her resignation as president of the Treasury Board and exit from cabinet.
Philpott said she had "lost confidence in how the government has dealt with this matter and in how it has responded to the issues raised." Citing the need for cabinet solidarity, she said it would be "untenable" for her to continue to serve as a minister.
That's a devastating message from her especially; Philpott is capable, venerable and widely respected both in and out of Liberal circles. She can't be written off as a cabinet minister disgruntled about a demotion or an opposition leader out for blood. Philpott is a Liberal — a widely admired one — and she doesn't have faith in the prime minister.
And if she doesn't, as someone privy to the conversations around the cabinet table about this whole affair, why should anyone else?
An
RCMP officer walks onstage to keep an eye on a protester yelling from
the crowd as Prime Minister Justin Trudeau speaks at a Liberal climate
action rally in Toronto on Monday. (Frank Gunn/Canadian Press)
The panic alarms are no doubt going off in the Prime Minister's Office and Liberal caucus right about now — and it shows.
Finance Minister Bill Morneau responded to Philpott's resignation by implying that she resigned from cabinet because of some bizarre personal allegiance. "Jane Philpott is a close personal friend of Jody Wilson-Raybould," Morneau said. "She took a decision, I respect her decision." That is a more diplomatic way of saying: Women, eh? Always going to the bathroom and resigning cabinet together.
The Liberals can deflect opposition attacks, spin Jody Wilson-Raybould's story and attempt to divert our attention literally to the moon all they want. But Philpott's words ought to eclipse everything else.
When the message that this prime minister can't be trusted comes directly from one of the most respected voices (formerly) around the cabinet table, you pay attention. And ignore the obsequious blather on the radio.
This column is part of CBC's Opinion section. For more information about this section, please read our FAQ.
Wilson-Raybould, you'll recall, spent the previous afternoon meticulously filleting the prime minister's credibility on the SNC-Lavalin file, calling the pressure on her to seek a remediation agreement for the company in its criminal case "consistent and sustained." Wilson-Raybould manoeuvred the knife like a Michelin-star chef, placing Justin Trudeau at the centre of the alleged influence campaign.
That's why it was so off-putting to listen to Freeland, speaking to radio host Robyn Bresnahan the next morning, slobbering over the bones Wilson-Raybould had left behind when she exited the committee room last Wednesday.
"Of course I support the prime minister 100 per cent," Freeland said, adding she was "clearly of the view that the prime minister would never apply improper pressure."
That was despite what the former attorney general described in assiduous detail the day prior.
Freeland lauded the decision for Trudeau to waive solicitor-client privilege and cabinet confidentiality as an "exercise in democracy." (Though it was only a partial waiver, which ostensibly should make it only a partial exercise in democracy.) And she dodged the question of whether she believed Wilson-Raybould's testimony, saying: "I believe that she spoke — as she said she wanted to do — her truth."
Freeland didn't just pledge her allegiance to the prime minister (which, granted, you sort of have to do as a cabinet member), she actually extolled his handling of the affair — as if the conflicting messages, sloppy smear jobs and clumsy attempts at obfuscation never happened.
Freeland was gushing over a plate of bones, trying to convince us they still looked tasty.
Contrast that with the statement released by Philpott on Monday, when she announced her resignation as president of the Treasury Board and exit from cabinet.
Philpott said she had "lost confidence in how the government has dealt with this matter and in how it has responded to the issues raised." Citing the need for cabinet solidarity, she said it would be "untenable" for her to continue to serve as a minister.
- Jane Philpott resigns from cabinet, citing loss of 'confidence' over government's handling of SNC-Lavalin
- Jane Philpott's departure leaves Trudeau without one of his strongest performers
That's a devastating message from her especially; Philpott is capable, venerable and widely respected both in and out of Liberal circles. She can't be written off as a cabinet minister disgruntled about a demotion or an opposition leader out for blood. Philpott is a Liberal — a widely admired one — and she doesn't have faith in the prime minister.
And if she doesn't, as someone privy to the conversations around the cabinet table about this whole affair, why should anyone else?
Finance Minister Bill Morneau responded to Philpott's resignation by implying that she resigned from cabinet because of some bizarre personal allegiance. "Jane Philpott is a close personal friend of Jody Wilson-Raybould," Morneau said. "She took a decision, I respect her decision." That is a more diplomatic way of saying: Women, eh? Always going to the bathroom and resigning cabinet together.
The Liberals can deflect opposition attacks, spin Jody Wilson-Raybould's story and attempt to divert our attention literally to the moon all they want. But Philpott's words ought to eclipse everything else.
When the message that this prime minister can't be trusted comes directly from one of the most respected voices (formerly) around the cabinet table, you pay attention. And ignore the obsequious blather on the radio.
This column is part of CBC's Opinion section. For more information about this section, please read our FAQ.
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