David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
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Methinks Higgy is regretting the fact that he did not call a General Election last month before the circus in Fat Fred City began again and the news about Campbellton burst his bubble N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/06/methinks-lawyers-working-with-lou-bell.html
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N.B COVID-19 roundup: Saint John resumes flights in and out of Montreal
Saint John, which has had no Air Canada service since mid-March, resumes Montreal flight
· CBC News · Posted: Jun 22, 2020 1:16 PM AT
An Air Canada flight from Montreal will arrive at the Saint John Airport on Monday afternoon. (Roger Cosman/CBC)
Saint John Airport officials are worried passengers from outside New Brunswick will be turned away by border patrols as Air Canada resumes flights from Montreal to the port city.
One daily flight will arrive at the Saint John Airport shortly before 3:30 p.m. and depart at 4:30 p.m. Border patrol officers with the province will be questioning travellers arriving at the airport.
"Obviously, you have to have a legitimate reason … on why you're coming into New Brunswick, and if those are met, than you should be OK to come in," said Jacques Fournier, director of commercial development at the Saint John Airport.
"If they're not, there's always a chance they could get turned away."
He said the plane is a 78-seat aircraft, which has been upgraded from the 50-seat commercial aircraft originally planned.
"Obviously, the demand is a little more than we thought."
But Fournier said some seats won't be used, so passengers can keep their distance from each other on the plane.
"I would have to say the aircraft will be pretty busy today."
Flights at all three of New Brunswick's largest airports have been reduced since the COVID-19 pandemic hit in March, and service in Saint John was suspended altogether.
Saint John Airport staff have also taken steps to make sure passengers can physically distance themselves from one another, including when they're lining up to get on a plane.
People permitted to come into the province are still required to self-isolate for two weeks, with the exception of New Brunswick residents working who have been working outside the province.
"Some people still need to travel and want to travel," said Fournier. "I believe we will still see people with cottages here in New Brunswick coming in."
Additional flights to Toronto and Montreal from Saint John will start on July 1.
"It's been a while since we've seen commercial traffic coming back into the Saint John Airport," Fournier said. "So it is very exciting."
Flights resume activity in Moncton
Toronto and Montreal flights that were previously suspended to and from the Moncton Roméo LeBlanc International Airport, also resumed Monday. They include one daily flight to Toronto and Montreal until June 30.In July, flights to each city will operate twice a day, but exceptions could apply, said Julie Pondant, a spokesperson for the airport.
Halifax and Ottawa flights are suspended until Sept. 7.
WestJet currently operates three days a week to Toronto from the Moncton airport.
Swoop Airlines has postponed service to the Moncton airport.
The Fredericton International Airport has two daily Air Canada flights to Montreal and three WestJet flights per week to Toronto.
"The airport has been open continuously, with both Air Canada and WestJet continuing to serve YFC, although on a reduced schedule," said Kate O'Rourke, a spokesperson for the Fredericton International Airport.
Porter and Sunwing have both suspended operations until the end of July at New Brunswick airports.
No new cases of COVID-19 Monday
Public Health announced no new cases of COVID-19 on Monday.There are currently 27 active cases of the respiratory virus in the province, according to the province.
Out of the 164 cases of COVID-19 in the province, 135 people have recovered.
There have been two deaths at the Manoir de la Vallée this month, a long–term care home in Zone 5, the Campbellton region.
Two patients are currently hospitalized and one is in an intensive care unit.
As of today, 40,663 tests have been conducted.
Horizon Health patients allowed to have visitors
Patients at Horizon Health Network can welcome one healthy visitor at a time, the health network said in a news release Monday.Visitors can see patients between 2 and 8 p.m. each day for a maximum of one hour. Visitors must be 12 or older and cannot bring pets into the hospital.
Under the new guidelines, all visitors to Horizon centres must:
- Be screened for symptoms of COVID-19 upon entry.
- Always wear a community mask during their visit.
- Maintain physical distancing and clean their hands frequently during visits.
- Limit their interactions with staff, and other patients and visitors.
- Leave the patient's room when staff are conducting procedures.
Critical care, intensive care and neonatal intensive care patients can have one visitor at a time. Visitors are limited to close family members only. The length of these visits is determined by staff on the unit and how busy things are.
Palliative care patients can have two visitors at a time and visiting hours can be adjusted. Palliative care patients receiving end-of-life care may also have one additional visitor for pastoral or spiritual care, to provide comfort to the patient, family and loved ones.
Patients visiting emergency departments and ambulatory care who require assistance may have one support person only. No other visitors permitted. Pediatric patients may have one support person, who must be a parent or caregiver.
"Visitors who expect their loved ones to be discharged from hospital in the near future — within one week — are asked to consider waiting for their loved one to be discharged to visit," the news release said.
Fredericton's Beaverbrook Art Gallery to stay closed
The Beaverbrook Art Gallery is staying closed because of COVID-19, but it won't be quiet for long.The gallery in Fredericton is set to start renovations and the building of a new pavilion soon, with the aim of reopening sometime late next year.
The work wasn't meant to close the gallery down, but the COVID-19 pandemic has changed that plan.
Although art galleries and museums are allowed to open under the province's recovery plan, Tom Smart, the gallery's director, said the accessible entrance could not work with physical distancing.
There were concerns about the safety of visitors and staff, he said.
"You might think that with the big galleries that there would be room but there isn't," said Smart.
"So we are taking the opportunity of this COVID to accelerate a construction schedule to build a fully accessible pavilion entrance in our front door."
In February, the city approved the gallery's plan to build an addition to the front of its Queen Street building.
The $6 million upgrade will see the gallery move closer to the road, more exhibition space and an upgraded entrance.
A rendering of the Beaverbrook Art Gallery's exterior after its expansion. (Beaverbrook Art Gallery)
But Smart said now that visitors aren't an issue, the gallery will look to do even more renovations, including doing work on the roof and back wall.
"We want to take the opportunity to really refresh the facility, make it safe, make it sound so that the collection doesn't have water pouring in on it," said Smart.
"We hope that when this is all over there'll be a vastly improved new gallery that will really help with developing and stimulating and growing the city and province."
While the summer closure will certainly affect tourists and local art lovers, Smart said, the gallery plans to still offer some programming online, which it has done throughout the pandemic, and outdoors at the gallery site.
"The sculpture park is going to be opening in a few weeks and that will also really create a cultural area down in that part of the city for people to enjoy," said Smart.
Campbellton region could enter yellow phase by Friday
New Brunswick moved into the next phase of its COVID-19 recovery plan Friday, with the exception of Zone 5.The Campbellton region, the site of an outbreak provincial officials have linked to a medical professional who travelled to Quebec and didn't self-isolate, remains at the stricter orange level.
Only two-household bubbles are permitted under the orange level.
In addition, non-regulated health professionals and businesses, such as acupuncturists and naturopaths, and personal services businesses, such as hair stylists and spas, can't operate.
The province, with the exception of Zone 5, entered into a new phase of recovery on Friday. (CBC News)
As long as there isn't an increase in COVID-19 cases, Premier Blaine Higgs said the Campbellton region will be allowed to move into the yellow phase by Friday.
For the rest of New Brunswick, all remaining businesses can open with appropriate distancing and sanitizing, and operational plans respecting Public Health guidelines. This includes casinos and amusement parks.
What to do if you have a symptom
People concerned they might have COVID-19 symptom can take a self-assessment test on the government website at gnb.ca.People with one of those symptoms are asked to:
- Stay at home.
- Call Tele-Care 811 or their doctor.
- Describe symptoms and travel history.
- Follow instructions.
With files from Jordan Gill
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Michael Guravich
This Daily Roundup, when it talks about Campbellton, never fails to remind everyone that they have “an outbreak provincial officials have linked to a medical professional who travelled to Quebec and didn't self-isolate”. The wording has changed slightly, being beefed up by stating that “provincial officials” made the link. And this is absolutely correct. Provincial officials did make the link, prime among them the Premier himself, who did so within days. The problem now, and the question we should be asking now is: when are the provincial officials going to acknowledge the possibility that the good doctor possibly, maybe, might NOT be Patient Zero?
Lou Bell
Reply to @Michael
Guravich: Why would they ? Quite certain I'm sure he's the guy ! Other
than social media conspiracy theorists , everyone else is fine with it
!!!!!!!!!
Michael
Guravich
Reply to @Lou Bell: i rest my case.
Dan Stewart
Reply to @Lou Bell:
You can be "quite certain" Lou.. But wouldn't it actually be even better
to beabsolutely sure? I find it hard to believe you wouldn't expect
answers to a question like that from our government. Being so adamantly
"quite certan" is not much better than not really knowing at all.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Michael Guravich:
All it reminds me of is the sorry state of our health care.
Be it avoiding full time hires (with salary and benefits) and using instead part time hires, some from out of province, and using a loophole in our stated emergency efforts, to avoid the 14 day isolation that the rest of us are subject to.
It is little wonder, that through the special efforts of those who are supposed to be looking after our best interests, that there seem to be "problems" in Campbellton.
All it reminds me of is the sorry state of our health care.
Be it avoiding full time hires (with salary and benefits) and using instead part time hires, some from out of province, and using a loophole in our stated emergency efforts, to avoid the 14 day isolation that the rest of us are subject to.
It is little wonder, that through the special efforts of those who are supposed to be looking after our best interests, that there seem to be "problems" in Campbellton.
David Amos
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Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Never mind the sorry state of our health care. Methinks somebody should remind Higgy that I just got another bill from the hospital because his minions refuse to give me back my Medicare card N'esy Pas?Terry Tibbs
The Higgs government continues to exhibit their inconsistencies in the grand fashion we have become accustomed to.
Welcome to the nightmare NB has become.
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Relax and enjoy the circus
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: "Poof"
Lou Bell
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Says one the the " Me Party's " 5 caucus members .
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Lou Bell:
Go ahead Lou, keep pretending that everyone has to isolate for two weeks, keep *thinking* it's ok for health care workers can continue to flit back and forth across the border, too bad that some can have funerals while others can't.
I'm *thinking* when I use words with more than 5 letters in them you become confused?
Rob Mason
So when I travel to North Carolina next month for work, will I be required to self isolate?
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Rob Mason:
If you mean self-isolate when you return to NB after finishing work,
you'll probably have to wait until next month to find out. I would
assume "yes" until a statement comes out that specifies workers
returning from other countries don't have to self-isolate. As for what
NC will require you to do when you arrive, I have no idea.
Rob Mason
Reply to @SarahRose
Werner: The US has no requirements to self isolate. I am considered and
essential worker so in theory I will not have to self isolate? A
colleague crossed the land border last week, no issues getting into the
US. Upon his return to Canada the CBSA officer asked where have you
been, anything to declare and said welcome home.
SarahRose
Werner
Reply to @Rob Mason:
Essential workers are a different story. I don't think they've ever
been required to self-isolate, not when returning to Canada from other
countries or returning to NB from other provinces. If you're concerned,
however, see if you can get something in writing from the government,
such as an e-mail from SNB.
Jake Quinlan
Reply to @Rob Mason: They may not let you into NC if you don't have the virus. :-)
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Rob Mason: Methinks you should ask your hero Higgy N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Rob Mason: Methinks you should ask your hero Higgy N'esy Pas?
Michel Forgeron
Reply to @Rob Mason: If I were you I wouldn't be guessing, assuming, or taking advice from anyone other than Canadian authorities, and I don't mean just one single CBSA officer, or a colleague. Don't forget the USA has the most deaths of any other country in the world. Hopefully Canada is pretty strict about people in the US coming here.
Bruce
Sanders
Reply to @Michel
Forgeron: Canada has 50% more deaths than California. and 3 times the
deaths per capita than Texas, sure stay away.
Michel
Forgeron
Reply to @Bruce
Sanders: I wasn't talking about states, I was talking about countries.
Canada has a population of about 38M, the US about 328M, 9 x that of
Canada. With 8346 deaths in Canada, you might expect 9x that in the US -
75,000. In fact, US deaths as of today are 122,000.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/no-new-cases-covid19-june-21-1.5621442
No new cases of COVID-19 reported Sunday
There have been 164 confirmed cases of COVID-19 since the pandemic arrived in N.B.
· CBC News · Posted: Jun 21, 2020 1:13 PM AT
New Brunswick reported no new cases of COVID-19 on Sunday. (Narongpon Chaibot/Shutterstock)
The province reported no new cases of COVID-19 on Sunday.
The number of active cases in the province remains at 27, according to a release from Public Health.
Two patients are in hospital with one in intensive care.
There have been 164 confirmed cases of the virus since the pandemic began in March. Of those, 135 have recovered and two residents at the Manoir de la Vallée long-term care home in Atholville have died.
To date, 40,490 tests have been conducted.
All areas of New Brunswick are in the yellow phase of recovery except for the Campbellton region, which is still in the orange phase because of a cluster of cases.
Under the yellow phase of recovery:
- Visits
at long-term care homes are allowed. Only one visitor will be allowed
at a time. The name of the visitor must be distributed before hand and
visitors are required to wear a mask
- Overnight camps are allowed to reopen
- Residents who work outside the province don't need to self-isolate upon return, but should monitor for symptoms
- Canadian residents can visit family in New Brunswick if they self-isolate for 14 days
- Canadian residents who own property in New Brunswick are allowed in, so long as they self-isolate for 14 days
- Organized sports are allowed to resume
- There
is no cap on the number of people gathering in controlled venues, but
people must be able to physically distance themselves from others
Symptoms of COVID-19 include: a fever above 38 C, a new cough or worsening chronic cough, sore throat, runny nose, headache, new onset of fatigue, new onset of muscle pain, diarrhea, loss of sense of taste or smell and difficulty breathing. In children, symptoms have also included purple markings on the fingers and toes.
What to do if you have a symptom
People concerned they might have COVID-19 symptom can take a self-assessment test on the government website at gnb.ca.People with one of those symptoms are asked to:
- Stay at home.
- Call Tele-Care 811 or their doctor.
- Describe symptoms and travel history.
- Follow instructions.
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David Amos
"Canadian residents can visit family in New Brunswick if they self-isolate for 14 days"
I wonder how many cousins I have throughout Canada
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid19-nb-update-june-20-1.5620744
1 new case of COVID-19 in Campbellton region
2 people in hospital, 1 in ICU
· CBC News · Posted: Jun 20, 2020 1:05 PM ATDr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, announces the province is loosening restrictions at Friday's news conference. All regions except Campbellton have moved into the next phase of recovery. (Government of New Brunswick/Submitted)
Public Health is reporting a new case of COVID-19 in New Brunswick, one day after the province announced it was moving into its next stage of recovery.
The new case is an individual in their 50s in the Campbellton region. The case is linked to the outbreak at Manoir de la Vallée in Atholville.
There are 27 active cases in New Brunswick.
Two people are in hospital and one person is in intensive care.
New Brunswick has seen 164 confirmed cases across the province since the pandemic began in March. A false positive test was detected in a previously confirmed case, Public Health said in its news release Saturday.
Of the confirmed cases, 135 have recovered from the respiratory illness, including 14 from the Campbellton region.
Two residents at the Manoir de la Vallée long-term care home in Atholville, a community just outside Campbellton, have died.
As of Saturday, 40,255 tests have been conducted.
A person now only needs one symptom to be tested for COVID-19, Public Health said.
Symptoms of COVID-19 include: a fever above 38 C, a new cough or worsening chronic cough, sore throat, runny nose, headache, new onset of fatigue, new onset of muscle pain, diarrhea, loss of sense of taste or smell and difficulty breathing. In children, symptoms have also included purple markings on the fingers and toes.
Loosened restrictions
The province loosened restrictions Friday. All regions except Campbellton have moved to the next stage of recovery.Under the new phase:
- Visits
at long-term care homes are allowed. Only one visitor will be allowed
at a time. The name of the visitor must be distributed before hand and
visitors are required to wear a mask
- Overnight camps are allowed to reopen
- Residents who work outside the province don't need to self-isolate upon return, but should monitor for symptoms
- Canadian residents can visit family in New Brunswick if they self-isolate for 14 days
- Canadian residents who own property in New Brunswick are allowed in, so long as they self-isolate for 14 days
- Organized sports are allowed to resume
- There
is no cap on the number of people gathering in controlled venues, but
people must be able to physically distance themselves from others
What to do if you have a symptom
People concerned they might have COVID-19 symptom can take a self-assessment test on the government website at gnb.ca.People with one of those symptoms are asked to:
- Stay at home.
- Call Tele-Care 811 or their doctor.
- Describe symptoms and travel history.
- Follow instructions.
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David Amos
Methinks Higgy is regretting the fact that he did not call a General Election last month before the circus in Fat Fred City began again and the news about Campbellton burst his bubble N'esy Pas?
Mary MacKenzie
Reply to @David Amos: N'esy isn't even a word.
David Amos
Reply to @Mary
MacKenzie: Methinks my Acadian friends laugh as hard as I do a the fact
that my Chiac gets lots of indignant remarks from Anglos Perhaps you
should Google the following sometime N'esy Pas?
mabel short
Reply to @David Amos: Chiac is real new brunswick french...we keep hiring high paying quebecers for public service jobs...but why not make Chiac mandatory...not quebec dialect french????...
David Amos
Reply to @mabel short: Ask Higgy the buck stops with him these days
Methinks he knows as well as I why the Quebeckers have had such a grip on the SANB long before he wanted to leader of the CoR Party N'esy Pas?
Methinks he knows as well as I why the Quebeckers have had such a grip on the SANB long before he wanted to leader of the CoR Party N'esy Pas?
Bruce Normand
Reply to @Mary MacKenzie: Amos is nearly as ignorant in his use of French as English. If he can't even be right about something so simple, why he wades into more complex matters is anyone's guess. Google indeed. If we expected to find proof of his gibberish, we might do that, but no need! Those who understand both languages can see his understanding needs a lot of work, n'est ce pas?
Bruce Sanders
And yet, we still continue to force people to isolate when they could simply be tested.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Bruce Sanders: Your faith in the infallibility of tests is touching.
David Amos
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Your faith in Higgy et al is not
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Bruce Sanders: Tests are only about 70% accurate.
Lou Bell
Reply to @Fred Brewer: And Naysayers are about 3 % accurate ! Bruce as an example .
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Lou Bell: and Higgy's #1 spin doctor is always right or should I say Far Right?
Reply to @Lou Bell: and Higgy's #1 spin doctor is always right or should I say Far Right?
Dan Stewart
I do find it hard to understand what has changed (other than the passing of time) that allows governments to decide some these rule changes. For instance it was almost a month to the day when the first case arrived in Campbellton. Followed shortly by outrage when discovered that a doctor not following the rules may have been the cause. Since then we have had a steady (all be it small) stream of infections detected. Yet as of yesterday the new rule says if resident worked outside of the province you can now come back and NOT self-isolate upon return. Aside from a slight lessening of cases country wide what has changed in a month? Still odder is that while a resident who has worked outside the province need not self isolate on returning "other" Canadians here to visit family or those that own a cottage still must for 14 days. Are New Brunswickers that worked outside the province somehow more immune to this virus than just plain old Canadians in general? Some of these rules just seem at best arbitrary. Its makes no more sense that saying, lets let every third person who asks in and turn the rest away.
Belinda Downing
Reply to @Dan
Stewart: I totally agree that it makes no sense whatever that residents
outside NB visiting family have to self isolate and returning workers
don’t. Test and/or monitor for symptoms makes sense.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Dan Stewart:
I find that it makes more sense to me if I look at it in terms of risks
vs benefits. Think back to the early days of the lockdown, when only
stores selling essential goods were allowed to remain open. Obviously
there's a risk to allowing people to enter any kind of store, but
there's more of a benefit to allowing them to buy essential goods (food,
medication, etc) than non-essential ones. In one case the benefit
outweighs the risk, in the other it doesn't.
Working to earn a living is essential to most people. The benefits of allowing them to do so freely outweighs the risk of infection. Visiting family and accessing summer cottages are less essential (*not* less important, but less essential). The benefits don't outweigh the risks.
I would also note that in the case in Campbellton you mentioned, the doctor had been outside the province for personal reasons, not to work. If he had been truthful with the border guards on this point, he would have been told to self-isolate.
Working to earn a living is essential to most people. The benefits of allowing them to do so freely outweighs the risk of infection. Visiting family and accessing summer cottages are less essential (*not* less important, but less essential). The benefits don't outweigh the risks.
I would also note that in the case in Campbellton you mentioned, the doctor had been outside the province for personal reasons, not to work. If he had been truthful with the border guards on this point, he would have been told to self-isolate.
David Amos
Reply to @Dan Stewart: Methinks you are very selective in what you wish to understand N'esy Pas?
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Dan Stewart:
It might seem that the "rules" are inconsistent, but that is simply because they are, the only thing out of our government that you can count on is no sense.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry
Tibbs: Speaking of inconsistent rules this is my favourite one that the
government pulled on me thus far. Notice the date it was amended?
Rules for Regulating the Practice and Procedure in the Federal Court of Appeal and the Federal Court
P.C. 1998-125 1998-02-05
55 In special circumstances, in a proceeding, the Court may vary a rule or dispense with compliance with a rule.
SOR/2004-283, s. 11
Rules for Regulating the Practice and Procedure in the Federal Court of Appeal and the Federal Court
P.C. 1998-125 1998-02-05
55 In special circumstances, in a proceeding, the Court may vary a rule or dispense with compliance with a rule.
SOR/2004-283, s. 11
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos:
Methinks even Danny Boy the wannabe lawyer must wonder why my
litigation is so special that the Court can ignore its own rules N'esy
Pas?
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos:
ALL governments exist solely to disrupt Dave and for no other reason ,
he's that important !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dan
Stewart
Reply to @David Amos: Well Dave at least I try... Maybe you should concider something like that yourself.
Dan
Stewart
Reply to @Dan
Stewart: Lol... Dave, A man that believes others think so much about
him probably just thinks too much about himself.... And that's pretty
much all I need to know about you my friend.
Dan
Stewart
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: At this point in time the risks are the same and they should be treated the same.
Richard Cyr
Reply to @Dan Stewart:
Simple.
Logic died of COVID about three months ago.
Simple.
Logic died of COVID about three months ago.
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Dan Stewart: You and and your buddy Lou attack me then dare to make a joke of it and call me your friend???
Reply to @Dan Stewart: You and and your buddy Lou attack me then dare to make a joke of it and call me your friend???
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Richard Cyr: Methinks many would agree that politics, money, bureaucracy and logic never mixed N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Richard Cyr: Methinks many would agree that politics, money, bureaucracy and logic never mixed N'esy Pas?
David Chiasson
HaHa Psych! People almost believed it! Never mind Covid,Mental Health and Substance abuse is going to kill and destroy more lives than the disease !
Theo
Lavigne
Reply to @David Chiasson: Yes but they are not contagious, you know that I hope....
Wayne Wright
Reply to @David Chiasson: brilliant
Bonnie Cox
Reply to @Theo
Lavigne: Exactly - Never once have I gone grocery shopping and came out
with addiction... although I have lost my mind... so maybe 50/50
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Bonnie Cox: Methinks the politicians who dreamed up this lock down do not have a mind to lose N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Bonnie Cox: Methinks the politicians who dreamed up this lock down do not have a mind to lose N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @David Chiasson: Welcome to the circus
Reply to @David Chiasson: Welcome to the circus
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-19-new-brunswick-recovery-yellow-atlantic-bubble-1.5618092
N.B COVID-19 roundup: Atlantic travel bubble will have to wait until early July, Higgs says
New Brunswick moves into next phase of its COVID-19 recovery plan
· CBC News · Posted: Jun 19, 2020 7:00 AM AT
New Brunswick Premier Blaine Higgs expects to see a travel bubble between Atlantic provinces by early July. (Government of New Brunswick/Submitted)
Residents in Atlantic Canada will have to wait a bit longer before they can travel between provinces in the region, Premier Blaine Higgs announced Friday.
At a news briefing on COVID-19, Higgs said he expects a travel bubble to open between New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island and Newfoundland in early July.
"We are monitoring activities across the country," said Higgs, who has been in discussions with all three other Atlantic premiers.
"We feel the first phase for us is obviously Atlantic Canada."
Higgs said there will also be advanced notice before the borders open up, to give businesses, such as hotels and restaurants, a chance to accommodate the changes. But businesses should start planning now for the Atlantic travel bubble.
The province, with the exception of Zone 5, entered into a new phase of recovery on Friday. (CBC News)
The Atlantic premiers have said they want to provide safe and efficient travel in the region without the need to self-isolate for 14 days, which would allow for tourism and family visits.
Higgs said last week that the Atlantic premiers were looking at having "at least a three-way bubble," with the goal of allowing access between provinces "sometime this summer."
Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, said the Atlantic provinces are fine tuning the details, including what reopening will look like and what measures will be put back in place if there is an outbreak in one province.
Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, announced no new cases of COVID-19 in the province on Friday. (Government of New Brunswick/Submitted)
Prince Edward Island Premier Dennis King and Nova Scotia Premier Stephen McNeil are interested in a July start for a regional bubble. Newfoundland and Labrador Premier Dwight Ball had been less enthusiastic, but on Friday was more supportive, saying officials are just working out the details.
"We've come a long way in Newfoundland and Labrador," Ball told reporters. "I think people seemingly now are ready to move about more."
Province could open to rest of Canada by mid-July
Premier Blaine Higgs said the province could open to the rest of Canada by mid-July, as long as New Brunswick can continue to manage the spread of COVID-19.He said this step is important to help New Brunswick's economy and get airports back up and running.
"At the end of the day we want to get back to being a nation," Higgs said. "We want to get back to our friends, our relatives.
Dr. Jennifer Russsell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, said she and the other chief medical officers from across Canada have been monitoring data related to COVID-19 cases across the country.
She said this will help determine the reopening of the province to the rest of Canada.
N.B. loosens restrictions in new phase of recovery
After two days without any new cases of COVID-19, New Brunswick will move into the next phase of its recovery plan starting today, with the exception of the Campbellton region.Under the new phase:
- Visits at long-term care homes are allowed. Premier Blaine Higgs said not every home will be in a position to allow visits immediately. Only one visitor will be allowed at one time. And the name of the visitor must be distributed in advance. Visitors are also required to wear masks.
- Overnight camps are allowed to reopen.
- Residents who work outside the province will no longer need to self-isolate when coming from outside New Brunswick, but are encouraged to self-monitor.
- Canadian residents can visit family members in New Brunswick if they self-isolate for 14 days, or for the duration of their visit if it is shorter than 14 days.
- Canadian residents owning property in New Brunswick are allowed into the province if they self-isolate for 14 days.
- All organized sports are allowed with appropriate distancing and sanitizing.
- There is no longer a cap on the number of people gathering in controlled venues, which previously had a limit of 50 people. Participants must be able to physically distance themselves from others. (This does not include close family or friends.) This applies to churches, swimming pools, saunas, waterparks, rinks, indoor recreational facilities and organized sports.
Higgs said venues with indoor events with controlled entry or controlled seating are required to maintain records of users' contact information to allow Public Health to conduct targeted followup should there be a COVID-19 exposure at the facility.
Campbellton region remains in orange phase
The Campbellton region, the site of an outbreak provincial officials have linked to a medical professional who travelled to Quebec and didn't self-isolate, remains at the stricter orange level.Only two-household bubbles are permitted under the orange level.
In addition, non-regulated health professionals and businesses, such as acupuncturists and naturopaths, and personal services businesses, such as hair stylists and spas, can't operate.
Since March 25, travellers to this province have had to stop at checkpoints like this one on Route 120 between New Brunswick and Quebec. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)
As long as there isn't an increase in COVID-19, the Campbellton region will be allowed to move into the yellow phase by next Friday.
This means all remaining businesses can open with appropriate distancing and sanitizing, and operational plans respecting Public Health guidelines. This includes casinos, amusement parks.
Earlier this week, Public Health said it would no longer advise against non-essential travel to and from the Campbellton region.
"No one should be discriminated against for living in a community where COVID-19 is active," said Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health.
On Friday, Russell also reminded businesses in other regions that they don't need to ask whether a customer has been in the Campbellton region.
Some businesses have barred entry to people who have been near Campbellton, and Russell said this is wrong.
A COVID-19 outbreak could happen in anyone's community, she said.
"Sometimes customers are turned away because of where they live and that's not OK," she said.
However, hospitals will screen patients arriving from an outbreak area and isolate them from other patients.
27 active cases
There are currently 27 active cases of COVID-19 in New Brunswick.New Brunswick has seen a total of 164 confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the province. Of those, 135 people have recovered from the respiratory illness, including 14 from the Campbellton region.
Two patients are hospitalized with one in an intensive care unit. Two residents at the Manoir de la Vallée long-term care home in Atholville have died.
As of Friday, 39,806 tests have been conducted.
1 symptom for testing instead of 2
Public Health now says a person needs only one symptom to qualify for testing for COVID-19. Lately, two symptoms have been required."In order to really be confident in our results we are lowering the number of required symptoms to one, to make sure we're not missing anybody," said Dr. Jennifer Russell. "We want to confirm there is an absence of community spread."
New Brunswick Public Health says symptoms shown by people with COVID-19 have included: a fever above 38 C, a new cough or worsening chronic cough, sore throat, runny nose, headache, new onset of fatigue, new onset of muscle pain, diarrhea, loss of sense of taste or smell and difficulty breathing. In children, symptoms have also included purple markings on the fingers and toes.
What to do if you have a symptom
People concerned they might have COVID-19 symptom can take a self-assessment test on the government website at gnb.ca.People with one of those symptoms are asked to:
- Stay at home.
- Call Tele-Care 811 or their doctor.
- Describe symptoms and travel history.
- Follow instructions.
With files from Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon
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David Amos
Methinks Higgy is regretting the fact that he did not call a General Election last month before the circus in Fat Fred City began again and the news about Campbellton burst his bubble N'esy Pas?
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David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
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Methinks the lawyers working with Lou Bell the top spin doctor for Higgy's Police State will read this blog someday N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/06/methinks-lawyers-working-with-lou-bell.html
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/public-health-no-new-cases-1.5617502
Province no longer advises against travelling to and from Campbellton region
The province will hold a news briefing at 10 a.m. Friday
· CBC News · Posted: Jun 18, 2020 2:44 PM AT
Last week, Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, said residents living in the Campbellton area shouldn't travel to other parts of the province unless it's essential. (Government of New Brunswick)
Public Health is no longer advising against non-essential travel to and from the Campbellton region, after no new cases of COVID-19 were reported Thursday.
Although government hasn't been restricting people's movements within the province, Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, said last week people in the Campbellton region should only travel to other parts of the province for essential services.
"It is not ideal for people travelling for non-essential reasons," she said.
27 active cases of COVID-19
To date, the number of active cases of COVID-19 is hovering around 27.The number of confirmed cases in New Brunswick is 164. There have been 135 who have recovered from the virus, including 14 of those related to the outbreak in the Campbellton region.
The Campbellton region, also known as Zone 5, has seen a cluster of COVID-19 cases over the past few weeks, after a doctor travelled to Quebec for personal reasons and did not self-isolate after returning home to the area.
Two patients are hospitalized with one in an intensive care unit.
As of Thursday,39,300 tests have been conducted.
Province to hold Friday news briefing
The province will hold a news briefing at 10 a.m. Friday about the next phase of the COVID-19 recovery plan.With the exception of the Campbellton region, also known as Zone 5, the province is in the yellow phase of the COVID-19 recovery plan, which is aimed at the gradual reopening of businesses and activities while working to prevent a resurgence of transmissions.
Zone 5 remains at the orange level of New Brunswick's COVID-19 recovery plan. This means, only a two-household bubble is permitted.
The Campbellton region, Zone 5, remains in the orange phase of the COVID-19 recovery plan, but the rest of the province is in the yellow phase. (Government of New Brunswick)
As well, non-regulated health professionals and businesses such as acupuncturists and naturopaths cannot operate at this time in Zone 5.
Personal services businesses such as barbers, hair stylists, spas, estheticians, manicurists, pedicurists, and tattoo artists also cannot operate at this time.
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Commenting is now closed for this story.Don Smith
Your kidding right? Thats the dumbest thing the Government has to date!
David Amos
Reply to @Don Smith:
Keep watching Methinks the Green Meanies and the PANB should agree that
the circus is gonna get better as we go into a long hot summer N'esy
Pas?
Fred Brewer
Um, aren't we being a
bit too hasty there folks? Didn't we just have new cases yesterday or
the day before? Incubation is up to two weeks right? This is crazy.
Ignore the pressure Mr. Higgs. Do what is best for our health and don't
listen to pressure from the north.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Fred
Brewer: To me it looks as if the government is trying to throw Zone 5 a
bone as an apology for keeping them in phase orange. It's a doomed
effort. They're unlikely to be happy with their "bone," given that it
would be hard to justify moving them to phase yellow until they've gone
14 days with no new cases (like the rest of the province had to).
Christopher
J Cusack
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: they are willing to risk the health of ALL new brunswickers so that nobody's feelings get hurt.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Christopher
J Cusack: I just hope the government doesn't let itself get pressured
into letting Zone 5 move ahead to phase yellow ahead of schedule. If it
sets that precedent now, it's going to make things even harder the next
time one particular zone has an outbreak - and count on it, there
*will* be other zones that have outbreaks.
Justin
Gunther
Reply to @Fred Brewer:
I agree they shouldn't be listening to pressure to the exclusion of
adhering to a logical framework in their attempts, futile or otherwise,
to contain the spread. In other words, they shouldn't let the public
micro-manage them into non-stop flipfloppery.
The real problem is there does not appear to be a logical framework. We had an opportunity to have a closed environment but we blew that with the new border protocols, so if we have another severe outbreak we won't have a clue whether it was community spread or coming from Quebec, the US, the sky or wherever.
How could we know?
The real problem is there does not appear to be a logical framework. We had an opportunity to have a closed environment but we blew that with the new border protocols, so if we have another severe outbreak we won't have a clue whether it was community spread or coming from Quebec, the US, the sky or wherever.
How could we know?
Justin
Gunther
Reply to @Justin
Gunther: Oh that's right contact tracing. Word out of the US recently,
according to one poll at least, is that 71% of people aren't going to do
it. They're not downloading the app.
If the numbers are similar here then seeSIS will have to do it the old fashioned way and call Google.
If the numbers are similar here then seeSIS will have to do it the old fashioned way and call Google.
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @Justin Gunther: hard to carry my desktop computer around !!!
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Justin
Gunther: I believe you are confusing the general term "contact tracing"
with the specific smart phone app that would make contact tracing faster
and easier.
NB has been doing contact tracing since the very beginning and they continue to do it the old fashioned way so this has nothing to do with how many people download and use the app.
NB has been doing contact tracing since the very beginning and they continue to do it the old fashioned way so this has nothing to do with how many people download and use the app.
David Amos
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Have laptop will travel
SarahRose Werner
I'm still wondering if out-of-province property owners will be able to access summer residences in Zone 5 while it's still in phase orange, or if they'll be asked to hold off for their own protection as well as the protection of community residents there.
David Amos
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Why not ask your hero Higgy?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-19-cases-fredericton-campbellton-1.5615832
N.B. COVID-19 roundup: Public Health confirms new case at long-term care facility
The case is a health-care worker in their 20s, who is self-isolating in the Fredericton region
· CBC News · Posted: Jun 17, 2020 3:20 PM AT
Public Health confirms one new case of COVID-19 in New Brunswick on Wednesday. (Government of New Brunswick/Submitted)
A health-care worker at a long-term care facility in the Campbellton region has been diagnosed with COVID-19 after coming into contact with the virus.
Public Health said the individual is in their 20s and is an employee at the Manoir de la Vallée in Atholville.
The individual is self-isolating in the Fredericton region, also known as Zone 3, where they live. The individual is also being monitored by Public Health.
27 active cases in Campbellton region
There are currently 27 active cases of COVD-19 in the Campbellton region, according to Public Health. And two other cases outside Zone 5.Out of the 164 confirmed cases, 133 individuals have recovered. Twelve people have recovered since the first case in the Campbellton cluster was reported May 21.
There have been two deaths at the Manoir de la Vallée in Atholville this month. Four patients are hospitalized with one in an intensive care unit.
The cluster began after a doctor travelled to Quebec for personal reasons and did not self-isolate after returning home to the area.
As of Wednesday, 38,714 tests have been conducted.
"It is important to understand that COVID-19, just like many other chronic illnesses and diseases, has not impacted all people in the same way," Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, said in a news release.
"Due to societal factors, some populations are significantly more susceptible and affected by this disease and by the public health measures put in place to try to prevent the spread of the virus. When it comes to COVID-19, we are all only as safe as those members of our community who are most at risk; we are all in this together."
Closure of Campbellton ER 'a difficult decision'
Ten health-care workers at the Campbellton Regional Hospital have been diagnosed with COVID-19.The Campbellton Regional Hospital's emergency room has been closed until further notice because of the spread of illness in the region, the Vitalité Health Network says.
Ten health-care workers at the Campbellton Regional Hospital have been diagnosed with COVID-19. (Shane Fowler/CBC)
Visits to the hospital are also prohibited, and all non-emergency services are cancelled until further notice as well.
At a news briefing Wednesday, Gilles Lanteigne, president and CEO of Vitalité Health Network, said it was a difficult decision to close the emergency room, but necessary to protect the people living in Restigouche County.
"We are in a cluster situation and we needed to do something," Lanteigne said in French.
In the event of an emergency, residents in the area are asked to call 911 or contact their family doctor.
Virus spread to employees not working on COVID unit
Lanteigne said the virus spread to health-care employees who did not work on the COVID-19 unit.He believes a number of factors contributed to this, including health-care workers taking breaks together throughout their shifts.
"Not being much on their guards as they should be," he said.
He said the hospital has health-care measures in place to protect the safety of employees against the virus.
Gilles Lanteigne, president and CEO of Vitalité Health Network, said retired health-care workers have been asked to work at the Campbellton Regional Hospital while many staff are self-isolating at home. (Michel Corriveau/Radio-Canada)
"Obviously it's an area of risk and an area of concern."
There was also a possibility the virus could've been in the area before workers were even aware it was there.
"Health-care workers are under great stress," he said. "They're tired. At time they just go back to their normal habits and put down their guard. It happens and we have seen that in the Campbellton area."
Call out for retired employees to help at hospital
In a status report, Vitalité Health Network, the governing body that oversees the Campbellton hospital, said 711 hospital employees have been screened for the respiratory illness since Saturday.Forty-one employees at the Campbellton hospital are currently self-isolating at home and 31 others are self-isolating as a precaution while they await their test results.
Although it's not mandatory, Vitalité has asked retired employees across the province to return to work at this time to help with the number of people off work.
What to do if you have symptoms
People concerned they might have COVID-19 can take a self-assessment on the government website at gnb.ca.Public Health says symptoms shown by people with COVID-19 have included: a fever above 38 C, a new cough or worsening chronic cough, sore throat, runny nose, headache, new onset of fatigue, new onset of muscle pain, diarrhea, loss of sense of taste or smell, and difficulty breathing. In children, symptoms have also included purple markings on the fingers and toes.
People with two of those symptoms are asked to:
- Stay at home.
- Call Tele-Care 811 or their doctor.
- Describe symptoms and travel history.
- Follow instructions.
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Tony Mcalbey
Methinks zone 5 should be open for all business like rest of us N’esy Pas?
Lou Bell
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: No Dave , wrong again .
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you’re wrong, Tony here N’esy Pas?
Lou Bell
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Nope , as I said ! Or is it just the " Me Party " speaking as a " team " ???
Sebastien
Landry
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: i agree both with your comment and the initial response to the
cluster outbreak but I feel the province is setting a precedence that
will be difficult to digest for the residents. The population will be
perpetually restricted until a vaccine is distributed. I hope that the
protocols in zone 5 are not carried to other zones once cases will airse
in the next couple of years. I hope that we are able to figure out
SarahRose
Werner
Reply to @Sebastien
Landry: Once Zone 5 has shown no new cases for a couple of weeks, it
should be able to rejoin the rest of us in phase yellow. That was the
condition that allowed the entire province to move from phase orange
into phase yellow in the first, so why would it be different now? I
would expect that any other zone that has a *community* outbreak (vs
cases found in people who are already in quarantine) would be handled
the same way as Zone 5 is currently being handled. And yes, none of us
are moving to phase green - all restrictions lifted - until either a
vaccine or a safe and effective treatment is found.
Sebastien
Landry
Reply to @SarahRose
Werner: I am no expert but I feel that the province is more prepared
when compared to the initial outbreak in March. I am concerned that the
protocols will be active until a vaccine is distributed and that
unnecessary social restrictions are being enforced. That is how I feel,
it does not mean I am correct
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: You know the truth
JoeBrown
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: BC and AB have 3 each clusters in n homes pop up this week. It never ends so lock down and collecting cerb is unsustainable. Taxes will need to double to cover all the paranoid shuttering of industry over a virus that is 2 hc setting in?
JoeBrown
Reply to @JoeBrown: virus that is restricted to 2 hc settings in NB.
Winston Gray
Reply to @JoeBrown:
People smarter than you beg to differ. Listen to science, not
"feelings". Go to the church if you want simple solutions.
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: Has the " party of 4 Me Party " got a leadership convention planned in the offing ? Tony may want your job !
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you should ask Higgy's lawyers or the four lawyers I was conferring with before they debated tonight what I think of political parties As for your buddy "Tony" you know as well as I that I do not know him at all N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you should ask Higgy's lawyers or the four lawyers I was conferring with before they debated tonight what I think of political parties As for your buddy "Tony" you know as well as I that I do not know him at all N'esy Pas?
Jake Quinlan
Reply to @JoeBrown: One is a regional hospital..,.an indoor facility .. hundreds and hundreds of rotating staff...open 24\7--365. End users of the service number in the hundreds..most sick already...caring for them is not by Skype or using droids from Star Wars....it's direct human contact. You can appreciate the concern some may have.
Joseph Vacher
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: no........ why would you think that
Joseph Vacher
Reply to @JoeBrown:
believe it or not, shutting down campbelton does not have a real effect
on the GDP of NB. half the population in northern NB doesn't work as it
is
Mary Smith
I do have some questions: are the health care workers that have gotten sick, are they caring directly for those sick in hospital and the ICU? Or are these workers dealing with a cluster among themselves, with no direct contact to those Covid-19 patients who are in hospital currently? I'm not sure what hospital those ill with Covid-19 are in, but I would assume it's the Campbellton hospital, but I don't know.
If these workers are caring for those who are ill, and they are falling ill themselves, it suggests that we may not be up to par with PPE and such for front line workers, and it may forecast a bad situation should we get hit with a second wave, suggesting that those caring for those in hospital will likely fall ill themselves.
How are they getting sick? From patients, or from each other due to the outbreak? What line of work are these healthcare workers working in? Directly with sick patients, or other roles in the hospital?
Chantal LeBouthi
Reply to @Mary Smith: I dont think they will answers your questions and will say something like
We can’t give that information because of privacy concerns
We can’t give that information because of privacy concerns
Mary Smith
Reply to @Mary Smith:
"There are 10 health-care workers at the Campbellton Regional Hospital
who have been diagnosed with the virus."
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Mary Smith:
That's all the information the public is going to get. Our curiosity
might desire more, but we're not owed more.
Mary Smith
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: And they've updated it with answers to most of my questions.
Mary Smith
Reply to @Mary Smith: "Virus spread to employees not working on COVID unit
Lanteigne said the virus spread to health-care employees who did not work on the COVID-19 unit.
He believes a number of factors contributed to this, including health-care workers taking breaks together throughout their shifts.
"Not being much on their guards as they should be," he said.
He said the hospital has health-care measures in place to protect the safety of employees against the virus.
"Obviously it's an area of risk and an area of concern."
There was also a possibility the virus could've been in the area before workers were even aware it was there.
"Health-care workers are under great stress," he said. "They're tired. At time they just go back to their normal habits and put down their guard. It happens and we have seen that in the Campbellton area. [...] Forty-one employees at the Campbellton hospital are currently self-isolating at home and 31 others are self-isolating as a precaution while they await their test results."
Lanteigne said the virus spread to health-care employees who did not work on the COVID-19 unit.
He believes a number of factors contributed to this, including health-care workers taking breaks together throughout their shifts.
"Not being much on their guards as they should be," he said.
He said the hospital has health-care measures in place to protect the safety of employees against the virus.
"Obviously it's an area of risk and an area of concern."
There was also a possibility the virus could've been in the area before workers were even aware it was there.
"Health-care workers are under great stress," he said. "They're tired. At time they just go back to their normal habits and put down their guard. It happens and we have seen that in the Campbellton area. [...] Forty-one employees at the Campbellton hospital are currently self-isolating at home and 31 others are self-isolating as a precaution while they await their test results."
Mary Smith
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: "Our curiosity might desire more, but we're not owed more."
Those questions are not about curiosity, it's about concern for those caring for Covid-19 patients. I was wondering if those caring for patients were falling ill - because if they are, it mean's we aren't protecting those who need it most, and when or if a second wave hits, our hospitals will likely collapse with no healthy people to take care of those who are hospitalized with Covid-19.
If those healthcare workers who are falling ill, got it from each other because they let their guard down (I'm not blaming them at all, I understand and am thankful for all they're doing), then protocols need to be upped to prevent spread within the hospital staff. Are they wearing masks and keeping distant while working, or are they sharing the same meals at the same tables, so that if an case popped up within one healthcare worker it would spread through them all. We can't afford to have hospitals collapse, or have all the staff go into isolation like what's happening now, and we need to not become complaisant with these outbreaks and clusters. Marathon not a sprint.
Those questions are not about curiosity, it's about concern for those caring for Covid-19 patients. I was wondering if those caring for patients were falling ill - because if they are, it mean's we aren't protecting those who need it most, and when or if a second wave hits, our hospitals will likely collapse with no healthy people to take care of those who are hospitalized with Covid-19.
If those healthcare workers who are falling ill, got it from each other because they let their guard down (I'm not blaming them at all, I understand and am thankful for all they're doing), then protocols need to be upped to prevent spread within the hospital staff. Are they wearing masks and keeping distant while working, or are they sharing the same meals at the same tables, so that if an case popped up within one healthcare worker it would spread through them all. We can't afford to have hospitals collapse, or have all the staff go into isolation like what's happening now, and we need to not become complaisant with these outbreaks and clusters. Marathon not a sprint.
JoeBrown
Reply to @Mary Smith:
Leave it to the hc authorities since they are trained to figure how to
deal with the manor and its employees. Your concerns are just that, and
are not needed to help them close off the infections.
Mary Smith
Reply to @JoeBrown: If
the hospitals can't keep Covid-19 from spreading wildly among their
staff, then it's everyone's concern. It is a forecast to what could
happen in every hospital in NB, if protocols aren't stepped up - which
I'm sure public health and hospitals are now doing. If not, that's how
you get hospitals collapsing.
My biggest concern was if those falling ill were dealing directly with patients or not, because if that's the case, then it's really bad, and questions on if they're being provided with enough or proper PPE or protocols should be raised. If it's spreading among the staff, it points to workers letting their guards down potentially, and protocols should be improved, or else we can expect similar outbreaks among hospital staff when other Zones have outbreaks, and that's very troubling.
I'm confident in public health, and if they learn from the mistakes of this outbreak in Zone 5 hopefully we won't have other hospitals follow a similar path later on or during a second wave. Isolating those potentially exposed is the proper way to handle this cluster, as public health has been doing all along, and hopefully this outbreak is isolated, contact traced, and contained. It's an example of what not to do, pointing out potential weak spots in the hospital system, and hopefully it will be lessons learned.
My biggest concern was if those falling ill were dealing directly with patients or not, because if that's the case, then it's really bad, and questions on if they're being provided with enough or proper PPE or protocols should be raised. If it's spreading among the staff, it points to workers letting their guards down potentially, and protocols should be improved, or else we can expect similar outbreaks among hospital staff when other Zones have outbreaks, and that's very troubling.
I'm confident in public health, and if they learn from the mistakes of this outbreak in Zone 5 hopefully we won't have other hospitals follow a similar path later on or during a second wave. Isolating those potentially exposed is the proper way to handle this cluster, as public health has been doing all along, and hopefully this outbreak is isolated, contact traced, and contained. It's an example of what not to do, pointing out potential weak spots in the hospital system, and hopefully it will be lessons learned.
JoeBrown
Reply to @Mary Smith:
wow, paranoid scenario. The clusters are contained to 2 spots and will
stop spreading when the employees quoted in the article being careless
at the wrong time stop spreading it amongst themselves.
Look for direction at the 4 provinces with international airports, none with locked borders. They aren't hiding in caves like NB is.
Look for direction at the 4 provinces with international airports, none with locked borders. They aren't hiding in caves like NB is.
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @JoeBrown: nicely said and logical
Mary Smith
Reply to @JoeBrown:
"Everything we do before a pandemic will seem alarmist. Everything we do
after a pandemic will seem inadequate. This is the dilemma we face"
Lou Bell
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Huh !
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Methinks it should be blatantly obvious to even little Lou that I am not you N'esy Pas?
JoeBrown
Reply to @Mary Smith:
There is no pandemic in NB. 2 clusters in hc ommunity mainly under
control. The other 750k people do not need caves.
Chantal LeBouthi
How are they going to deal with a second wave?
Vitality need a major overhaul
Johnny Almar
Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi: got about one month to figure it out.
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @Johnny Almar: your fake news again
John Oliver
Reply to @Johnny
Almar: A second wave, when it comes, will not hit NB in the next month.
Maybe October. A lot depends on the decisions made to open up the rest
of the economy. But, for NB to get a second wave it will require more
infected people to enter the province which doesn't look likely for the
foresseable future.
JoeBrown
Reply to @Chantal
LeBouthi: The province has no money to destroy old bldgs and rebuild to
current codes. Unless you want your taxes to double for a couple of
years, nothing can be done so they will just make minor improvements
while the citizens point a finger at private homes and pretend the money
will appear to rebuild.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @John Oliver:
You are forgetting the free range tourists that are due any time from Quebec.
You are forgetting the free range tourists that are due any time from Quebec.
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I never do I find their ladies very attractive but the dudes can be rude
Rob Sense
Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi:
everything in NB needs a major overhaul
Rob Sense
Reply to @Terry Tibbs:
hate those tourists....we should spray DDT to eradicate them.
hate those tourists....we should spray DDT to eradicate them.
Jos Allaire
It's always fair game against Francophones while topics involving other groups are closed for comments.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-19-campbellton-region-zone-five-1.5614077
Public Health confirms 3 new cases of COVID-19 in Campbellton region
2 health-care workers at the Campbellton Regional Hospital have been diagnosed
· CBC News · Posted: Jun 16, 2020 2:15 PM AT
Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, said residents need to remain vigilant until a vaccine is found for COVID-19. (Government of New Brunswick)
Public Health has announced three new cases of COVID-19 in the Campbellton region Tuesday, bringing the total number of active cases in New Brunswick to 30.
Two of the cases are health-care employees at the Campbellton Regional Hospital, and the other case is linked to a close contact of a case, the province said in a news release Tuesday.
Since the Restigouche County outbreak, 10 health-care workers at the hospital have been diagnosed with the respiratory illness.
"As we navigate through the pandemic, we will need to continue to learn from our experience, adapt, and prepare as best we can for what is next," said Dr. Jennifer Russell, chief medical officer of health in a statement.
The Campbellton Regional Hospital's emergency room has been shut down to prevent the spread of COVID-19. (Shane Fowler/CBC)
"With each challenge we overcome, we are building resilience as individuals, as communities, and as a province."
The new cases are an individual in their 20s and two individuals in their 50s.
Over the weekend, Vitalité Health Network announced the closure of emergency room at the Campbellton Regional Hospital, to prevent the spread of the virus.
1 patient still in intensive care unit
There have been a total of 163 cases of COVID-19 in New Brunswick since March, 131 of those cases have recovered. This includes 11 cases related to the outbreak in the Campbellton region.There have been two deaths related to COVID-19 since the virus broke out more than three months ago. Both individuals were residents of the Manoir de la Vallée in Atholville, where the virus broke out.
Two residents living at the Manoir de la Vallée in Atholville have died after being diagnosed with COVID-19. (Serge Bouchard/Radio-Canada)
There are also three temporary foreign workers in the Moncton area who have been diagnosed with COVID-19 and are in self-isolation.
Four patients are hospitalized with one in an intensive care unit.
As of Tuesday, 37,843 tests have been conducted.
Campbellton remains in orange phase
Most of the province has been in the yellow phase since the end of May. The Campbellton region remains in the orange phase of the province's COVID-19 recovery plan.This means a two-household bubble is permitted. Non-regulated health professionals and businesses such as acupuncturists and naturopaths cannot operate at this time. Personal services businesses such as barbers, hair stylists, spas, estheticians, manicurists, pedicurists, and tattoo artists cannot operate.
Summer camps must have operational plans in place
As summer approaches, the province is reminding operators of day and overnight camps that they're required to prepare an operational plan respecting Public Health guidance.In a news release, the province said day and overnight camps do not need to be inspected before opening, but they must have an operational plan that can be provided to officials.
"The goal is to create a safe and healthy environment for staff and children by making the necessary adjustments to help limit the risk of exposure to COVID-19," the news release said.
What to do if you have symptoms
People concerned they might have COVID-19 can take a self-assessment on the government website at gnb.ca.Public Health says symptoms shown by people with COVID-19 have included: a fever above 38 C, a new cough or worsening chronic cough, sore throat, runny nose, headache, new onset of fatigue, new onset of muscle pain, diarrhea, loss of sense of taste or smell, and difficulty breathing. In children, symptoms have also included purple markings on the fingers and toes.
People with two of those symptoms are asked to:
- Stay at home.
- Call Tele-Care 811 or their doctor.
- Describe symptoms and travel history.
- Follow instructions.
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Murray Brown
"As we navigate through the pandemic, we will need to continue to learn from our experience, adapt..." Adaptations they have apparently failed at... Testing, tracking and isolating those who have become infected, otherwise there would be no new infections. There appears to be serious problems with the 'stay at home and isolate' orders given to those who have been infected in the Campbellton area. Maybe this is why Higgs wanted to start arresting people without reason. The 'please stay at home' orders are obviously being ignored up there.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Lou Bell:
Normally NPs and doctor's assistants have patients of their own and
aren't available to "cover" for doctors who need to take time off.
David Amos
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Reply to @Lou Bell: "And how's that turning out with the cross border Docs ?"
Methinks I should be grateful that you mentioned my documents on file in Federal Court in Fat Fred City, the Provincial Court and the EUB in Saint John, the Supreme court of Newfoundland, the US District Courts in New York, Massachusetts and New Hampshire, the Norfolk Superior Court in Dedham MA and the Dorchester District Court in Boston MA to name but a few N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Lou Bell: "And how's that turning out with the cross border Docs ?"
Methinks I should be grateful that you mentioned my documents on file in Federal Court in Fat Fred City, the Provincial Court and the EUB in Saint John, the Supreme court of Newfoundland, the US District Courts in New York, Massachusetts and New Hampshire, the Norfolk Superior Court in Dedham MA and the Dorchester District Court in Boston MA to name but a few N'esy Pas?
Alison Jackson
In speaking with my 96
year old step dad about discomfort, he tells me when he had to spend a
month in a ditch in WW2 in Belgium as the worst situation he's ever
seen. They would wear gas masks not knowing what was going to come at
them for days on end. And not today's gas masks, those heavy metal ones.
He can't understand why the people in NB can't handle a cloth mask
while shopping for like an hour a day.
A momentary slice in time where there is slight discomfort and modern day citizens nearly lose it. It's actually kinda humorous to see these 'real men' (and their wives) with their giant pick up trucks that can't handle a little cloth mask,lol. "Oh the humanity! My freedoms are compromised!" Hey, my stepdad fought for your freedom to carelessly spread this virus around..so I guess you need to thank him/them each time you don't wear one huh?
A momentary slice in time where there is slight discomfort and modern day citizens nearly lose it. It's actually kinda humorous to see these 'real men' (and their wives) with their giant pick up trucks that can't handle a little cloth mask,lol. "Oh the humanity! My freedoms are compromised!" Hey, my stepdad fought for your freedom to carelessly spread this virus around..so I guess you need to thank him/them each time you don't wear one huh?
Carlson MacKenzie
Reply to @Alison Jackson: Well said!
Tony
Mcalbey
Reply to @Alison Jackson: Higgy took away freedom, borders are closed
Joe Rootliek
Reply to @Alison
Jackson: Actually Big Brother does not want us to wear masks, for the
cameras in all of the stores and cities, taken everywhere, goes
against tracking us.
Wearing a mask, the governments do not like, but they even realize, that we have to in this case where a 6 ft distance cannot be maintained.
I agree to wear a mask, but true, there are those with respiratory problems that cannot wear one... I am certainly against any penalty for not wearing one, but if the government would say we recommend more often, then more people would wear them just on that advice.
Wearing a mask, the governments do not like, but they even realize, that we have to in this case where a 6 ft distance cannot be maintained.
I agree to wear a mask, but true, there are those with respiratory problems that cannot wear one... I am certainly against any penalty for not wearing one, but if the government would say we recommend more often, then more people would wear them just on that advice.
Corrie
Weatherfield
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: "Poor, Poor, Pitiful Me " is a song , , , not a sensible way to
live. It is not always about me, me, me. Some of the conditions
"imposed" on poor, poor pitiful you are designed to give you the
opportunity to be a responsible person in society and work together with
other people to protect all people. All people in society benefit from
the positive efforts of the others. If not there would be no way to
live except hunter/gatherer. You would only be able to hunt, for
example, with tools you made yourself. Walk on rough ground with your
bare feet unless you made shoes.
Lou Bell
Reply to @Corrie Weatherfield: Tony is a member of Dave's " Me Party " .
Lou Bell
Reply to @Corrie
Weatherfield: " Responsible person in society " . You do realize you're
lecturing Tony don't you ? Never gonna happen .
Lou Bell
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: And you wanna shop at Walmart Calais . Not essential , if you can understand what that means .
Corrie
Weatherfield
Reply to @Lou Bell: Thank you, yes I realize but sometimes I can't help myself ! ! !
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-19-coronavirus-pandemic-outbreak-roundup-1.5612408
N.B. COVID-19 roundup: Public health to share virus update after 2nd death
Premier Blaine Higgs and Dr. Jennifer Russell will be speaking at 2:30 p.m. in Fredericton
· CBC News · Posted: Jun 15, 2020 12:51 PM AT
Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, will be speaking with reporters Monday afternoon in Fredericton. (Government of New Brunswick/Submitted)
Public Health is holding a news conference Monday following the second death of a resident at a long-term care facility near Campbellton from COVID-19.
The individual, a resident of the Manoir de la Vallée in Atholville, was in their 80s. The person is the second in New Brunswick to die from the virus.
Premier Blaine Higgs and Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, will be speaking with reporters in Fredericton at 2:30 p.m.
The Manoir de la Vallée in Atholville has seen a cluster of COVID-19 cases over the past few weeks. (Serge Bouchard/Radio-Canada)
A news release sent out by public health over the weekend did not confirm the identity of the person who died, but said the individual had been admitted to hospital.
An 84-year-old long-term care home resident was the first person in New Brunswick to die of COVID-19.
Daniel Ouellette was a resident at the Manoir de la Vallée in Atholville. He died earlier this month.
26 active cases of COVID-19
A cluster of cases in the Campbellton region surfaced in mid-May, after a doctor travelled to Quebec and did not self-isolate after returning home to the area.There are 26 active cases in New Brunswick, most of which are in the Campbellton region, also known as Zone 5.
Four people are in hospital and one person is in ICU.
Daniel Ouellette, 84, died from COVID-19 at the beginning of June. (Submitted by Michel Ouellette)
Many of the cases are linked to Manoir de la Vallée.
To date, 37,072 tests have been conducted, 157 cases have been confirmed and 129 people have recovered.
Campbellton's emergency room closed until further notice
The Campbellton Regional Hospital's emergency room is closed until further notice because of the spread of COVID-19 in the region, the Vitalité Health Network announced via a news release Saturday.Visits to the hospital are also prohibited, and all non-emergency services are cancelled until further notice as well.
Last week, Vitalité Health Network announced that the Campbellton Regional Hospital will open its emergency department, but it was closed again over the weekend. (Shane Fowler/CBC)
The closure comes after the New Brunswick hospital announced it was reopening last week.
The hospital's emergency department has been closed since the end of May, and all non-urgent or elective health-care services were cancelled due to the high risk of transmission of COVID-19.
What to do if you have symptoms
People concerned they might have COVID-19 can take a self-assessment on the government website at gnb.ca.Public Health says symptoms shown by people with COVID-19 have included: a fever above 38 C, a new cough or worsening chronic cough, sore throat, runny nose, headache, new onset of fatigue, new onset of muscle pain, diarrhea, loss of sense of taste or smell, and difficulty breathing. In children, symptoms have also included purple markings on the fingers and toes.
People with two of those symptoms are asked to:
- Stay at home.
- Call Tele-Care 811 or their doctor.
- Describe symptoms and travel history.
- Follow instructions.
95 Comments
David Amos
Oh My My
Dutch Diefenbaker
Reply to @David Amos: Oh You You. N'est ce pas?
Mary MacKenzie
Reply to @David Amos: Are you sick? Were you hacked?
Rob Sense
discrimination is alive and well here.
David Amos
Reply to @Rob Sense: In more ways than one
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Rob Sense:
Against who? Our government proves daily that inclusion is not just limited to our schools.
Buddy Best
How many others were affected getting here with these workers? Pay a decent wage and these FW would not be required. Billionaires paying scab labour nothing!!!
Dan Stewart
Reply to @Buddy Best: How many others were affected... by what?
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Buddy Best: There are farmers in New Brunswick who are billionaires?
David Amos
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Yes
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @SarahRose Werner:
Come on up to Heartland/Florenceville/Centerville/Grand Falls.
Justin Gunther
Reply to @Buddy Best: If we believe and trust our farmers, it's not so much an issue of pay as it is an issue of tight deadlines and the TFWs genuinely being that much better at the job than anybody we can train on the spot here in NB.
Dan Stewart
Reply to @Terry
Tibbs: There are no "Billionaire farmers" in New Brunswick. I know some
might be alluding to the McCains or even the Irving's but they hardly
farmers by any stretch of the imagination.
Rick Firth
Well, with 3 cases now I guess Higgs will taking Moncton back under orange for the time being. Of course not, it's part of the golden triangle.
Evan Day
Reply to @Rick Firth:
Those people were already self-isolating. Provided they followed the
rules, there should be no issue of community spread.
Dan Stewart
Reply to @Rick Firth:
No reason to take Moncton back to orange. Those infected there have
been in isolation since arriving... The way it should be.
David Amos
Reply to @Dan Stewart: How is your sense of fair play doing?
Dan Stewart
Reply to @David Amos: Mine is fine Dave... hows your sense.. of anything doing?
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @Dan Stewart: You all are jealous of David Amos senses.
Dan Stewart
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Yep that must be it... and wondrous imaginative senses he no doubt has...
David Amos
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Reply to @Dan Stewart: Methinks words such as yours help to prove my point about how bad things truly are. I suspect that you know why I feel honoured by the fact that you hate me N'esy Pas?
Bob Smith
Sad to see the cases originate with the TFW's. That said, the farmers and fish processors wanted Higgs to let them all in from the beginning rather than a delay. That could have meant a huge spike in the numbers of infections.
Lou Bell
Reply to @JoeBrown: And where were the 3 cases announced today ? Did you even read the story ?
Lou Bell
Reply to @Lou Bell: Comprehension isn't that hard Joe . Try it .
Lou Bell
Reply to @JoeBrown: They were all NATIONAL programs ! You do realize that don't you ? Appears not !
David Amos
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Reply to @Lou Bell: "Comprehension isn't that hard Joe . Try it "
Methinks you should take your own advice N'esy Pas?.
Reply to @Lou Bell: "Comprehension isn't that hard Joe . Try it "
Methinks you should take your own advice N'esy Pas?.
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks Yethinks Methinks I care ! Methinks iI don't ! Surprise ! Surprise !!! Y'es eh pas !!!
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @Lou Bell: lightweight
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: Ah the leader of the 4 member " Me Party ". Joe and Terry and Tony !
Lou Bell
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Surprised you got the spelling right ! Such a BIGLY word for you to use .
Dutch Diefenbaker
Reply to @Bob Smith:
No different then NB travellers coming back from another area. Little or
no risk if everybody complies with common sense rules.
David Amos
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Welcome back to Higgy's circus
Paul Estey
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Reply to @David Amos: Higgy´s got us through very nicely up until the problem from the maker of this last cluster....maybe you should read a book or two on the art of being positive....
David Amos
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Reply to @Paul Estey: I repeat are you the dude who was dismissed from Fat fred City's Finest not long after they stole my Harley?
Mike Bookman
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Reply to @David Amos: Why is this Higgy's problem? The doctor did this all on his own. Also why are you using this forum for some kind of personal agenda?
Tony Mcalbey
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Reply to @William Stackhouse: more of the same police state
Reply to @William Stackhouse: more of the same police state
JoeBrown
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Reply to @Mike Bookman: lol, do you expect to rehab DA?
Reply to @Mike Bookman: lol, do you expect to rehab DA?
David Amos
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Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: Methinks its interesting that you respond to comments I can't
read Small wonder that Higgy's fan club thinks I am you N'esy Pas?
William Stackhouse
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Reply to @JoeBrown: His name is IgnorAmos from now on lol
Reply to @JoeBrown: His name is IgnorAmos from now on lol
JoeBrown
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Reply to @William Stackhouse: I ran out of mutes 2 years ago. cbc told me then that they were looking at expanding the list.
Reply to @William Stackhouse: I ran out of mutes 2 years ago. cbc told me then that they were looking at expanding the list.
Marco Bernardo
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Reply to @David Amos: David, I am still convinced that you and Tony Mcalbey are the same person, just different accounts. Also, of all the regions in North America, Premier Higgs has done the best to contain and control the pandemic. Perhaps if you were in Montreal, you would feel more at home with the infected there?
Tony Mcalbey
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Reply to @Marco Bernardo: methinks not N’esy Pas?
Marco Bernardo
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Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Ok, then you are identical twins. N'esy Pas?
Johnny Almar
Prepare for a scolding about how we have to be compassionate towards the guy who caused this.
Meanwhile in China, second wave has started in another wet market and it’s larger in scope than Wave Wuhan.
Over 100,000 infections that walked around unchecked. This one is going to lock us all down within 60 days or so unless all transportation from China is banned and from any country that allow China to transport people to them.
Tony Mcalbey
Content disabled
Reply to @Johnny Almar: Fake news
Reply to @Johnny Almar: Fake news
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Nope
Methinks just like you they don't bother to tell all that they know to be true N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Nope
Methinks just like you they don't bother to tell all that they know to be true N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @David Amos: For the record I have been falsely accused of posting comments in the two names found above by spin doctors who support Higgy et al and their actions against me.
Methinks it should prove interesting to see how anyone replies to this simple statement N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks I know the score for sure now N'esy Pas?
Dan Stewart
Content disabled
Reply to @David Amos: Actually yes... Not that the facts would mean that much to you right?
Reply to @David Amos: Actually yes... Not that the facts would mean that much to you right?
JJ Carrier
Content disabled
Reply to @Dan Stewart: Just ignore him brudda... Blocked him months ago...Problem is he has multiple accounts on the boards...Let him fester in his self-made egobubble...
JoeBrown
Reply to @Johnny
Almar: Link please. CNN reports 36 cases, slightly less than 100k. THey
ended wuhan after neglecting it for a month, so maybe you are
overreacting?
Dan Stewart
Reply to @JJ Carrier:
I did kind of think that was the case.... alter egos or multiple
personalities.. take you pick... Everyone is free to post here and say
what they want within reason of course even if no one agrees with them
but Darn at least make sense... Aside from not particularly liking Higgs
I rarely know what the man is even going on about.... and maybe he
doesn't either...
Mathieu Laperriere
Reply to @David Amos: it's n'est-ce pas, not n'esy pas. thanks :)
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Dan Stewart: Methinks many would agree that you and your brudda JJ deserve each other N'esy Pas?
Dan Stewart
Reply to @David Amos: Hmm, again Dave, have no idea what your talking about... Do you?
Buddy Best
Reply to @JoeBrown: CNN? LOL
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Dan Stewart: Yes and I republished everything that went "Poof"
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid19-cases-campbellton-recoveries-1.5611635
No new cases of COVID-19, Public Health announces
Most of the province's active cases are concentrated in the Campbellton region
· CBC News · Posted: Jun 14, 2020 12:23 PM AT
Four people are in hospital because of COVID-19 and one person is in ICU. (Shane Fowler/CBC)
Public Health announced and no new cases of COVID-19 on Sunday, a day after the province's second death from the virus.
To date, 37,072 tests have been conducted, 157 cases have been confirmed and 129 people have recovered.
There are 26 active cases in New Brunswick, most of which are in the Campbellton region, also known as Zone 5.
Four people are in hospital and one person is in ICU.
Many of the active cases are connected to Manoir de la Vallée, a long-term care facility in Atholville.
Two residents at the facility have died from COVID-19.
Public Health announced three new cases of the virus on Saturday, including two health-care workers at the Campbellton Regional Hospital and an employee at Manoir de la Vallée.
A cluster of cases in the Campbellton region surfaced in mid-May, after a doctor travelled to Quebec and did not self-isolate after returning home to the area.
Nine people connected to the outbreak in the Campbellton region have recovered.
Campbellton ER closed
Campbellton Regional Hospital's emergency room is closed until further notice because of the spread of COVID-19 in the region, the Vitalité Health Network announced via a news release Saturday.Visits to the hospital are also prohibited, and all non-emergency services are cancelled until further notice as well.
What to do if you have symptoms
People concerned they might have COVID-19 can take a self-assessment on the government website at gnb.ca.Public Health says symptoms shown by people with COVID-19 have included: a fever above 38 C, a new cough or worsening chronic cough, sore throat, runny nose, headache, new onset of fatigue, new onset of muscle pain, diarrhea, loss of sense of taste or smell, and difficulty breathing. In children, symptoms have also included purple markings on the fingers and toes.
People with two of those symptoms are asked to:
- Stay at home.
- Call Tele-Care 811 or their doctor.
- Describe symptoms and travel history.
- Follow instructions.
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David Amos
Methinks Higgy et al and the police in Fundy Royal should read all the comments and their emails ASAP N'esy Pas?
David Amos
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Methinks Higgy et al know why they will be hearing mostly crickets in this forum today N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
@ TerryTibbs To your question asking when Funerals can be held again . If you've been paying attention , they can ! Limit on the number of persons allowed to attend , but they have been allowed . You and dave haven't been paying wery close attention as you both seem unaware of this. So go ahead and with your plans .
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Oh My My
Michael Guravich
Ah geez, CBC. You’re still singling out “the doctor who travelled” even though he, as everyone should know by now, may or may not have been the start of anything. New information has come out, not yet settled as to reliability, but no less credible than anything else at this point. And it has been credibly suggested that there are ways the virus could have been spread by other people. Nevertheless, you still include this line in your reportage: “A cluster of cases in the Campbellton region surfaced in mid-May, after a doctor travelled to Quebec and did not self-isolate after returning home to the area.” You’ve run this line for days now. It should be removed. It strongly infers a direct connection between the doctor and the outbreak. (Actually, it screams: “He’s Patient Zero!”) There is also no mention anywhere else in the article of any other possibility, further suggesting he, and only he, is the one we should all still be looking at. Given that it is no longer certain the doctor is Patient Zero, which means it’s possible that he is not, to continue to publicly point him out in this manner is unwarranted and unconscionable.
David Amos
Reply to @Michael Guravich: I am having a minor bout of Deja Vu
Lou Bell
Reply to @Michael Guravich: The " credible " info you refer to is a " private Eye " hired by the Doctor came up with a bunch of scenarios where it inferred other POSSIBLE scenarios where it could have started . Misrepresented and false responses from the Doctor when reentering the province suggest where and how and by whom the latest set of cases started are most likely correct. Any questions otherwise would most likely result in a change in the provinces narrative ! I suspect upon the 1st death happening the P. I. was hired and any and all scenarios developed , solely in looking ahead to possible Lawsuits ! Like hiring someone to declare the world is still flat !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bruce Sanders
Why is the Emergency closed? If there is a multiple vehicle car crash just outside the hospital, with life-threatening injuries, where do these people go?
David Amos
Reply to @Bruce Sanders: Good question
Lou Bell
Reply to @Bruce Sanders: I suspect the ER is closed to the 90 % of patients who appear daily with a case of the sniffles . Most accident victims arriving by ambulance don't come through the front doors of the ER !
Terry Tibbs
This old man is left scratching his head here. There was a smell of burning wood, but that is done now.................
We have a crop of sick folks up Campbellton way and the "official" response is to close the hospital?
Does anyone else see the irony in that?
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I do
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David Amos:
The ONLY thing I can *think* of (that burning smell again) is the hospital is staffed with temporary/part time Quebec workers to make the books look good. Different line item from "salaries".
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Naw they were having trouble staying open last Xmass
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos:
Campbellton hospital takes 'extreme' steps after running out of beds
Hospital closes three services, stops admissions, and diverts ambulances to other centres
Elizabeth Fraser · CBC News · Posted: Nov 21, 2019 11:00 AM AT
"Staff will be implementing "extreme emergency measures" over the next seven days, and the situation will be reassessed daily.
The letter described several steps the hospital is taking to deal with the problem, including:
Diverting ambulances to other centres.
Accepting no new admissions until further notice.
Not allowing physicians in the community to do any direct admissions. This also applies to pending admissions.
Transferring admissions to Bathurst when no other alternatives are present.
Transferring orthopedic on-call coverage to Bathurst.
"With New Brunswick's aging population and people living longer, Flemming said there is greater demand on the health-care system, calling it a "grey tsunami."
"At the same time our population is not growing at a particular rate where we can recruit the amount of people that we need."
The president of the New Brunswick Medical Society issued a statement Thursday calling on the government to address the health-care needs of seniors outside of hospital. Dr. Chris Goodyear said otherwise these situations will continue to occur, especially with flu season approaching.
"Government must make special care and nursing home beds more readily available and streamline the patient assessment and approval process to move a senior out of hospital," Goodyear said.
Vitalité CEO Gilles Lanteigne said overcrowding reached a breaking point late Tuesday night. "We had 42 people on stretchers," he told reporters"
Campbellton hospital takes 'extreme' steps after running out of beds
Hospital closes three services, stops admissions, and diverts ambulances to other centres
Elizabeth Fraser · CBC News · Posted: Nov 21, 2019 11:00 AM AT
"Staff will be implementing "extreme emergency measures" over the next seven days, and the situation will be reassessed daily.
The letter described several steps the hospital is taking to deal with the problem, including:
Diverting ambulances to other centres.
Accepting no new admissions until further notice.
Not allowing physicians in the community to do any direct admissions. This also applies to pending admissions.
Transferring admissions to Bathurst when no other alternatives are present.
Transferring orthopedic on-call coverage to Bathurst.
"With New Brunswick's aging population and people living longer, Flemming said there is greater demand on the health-care system, calling it a "grey tsunami."
"At the same time our population is not growing at a particular rate where we can recruit the amount of people that we need."
The president of the New Brunswick Medical Society issued a statement Thursday calling on the government to address the health-care needs of seniors outside of hospital. Dr. Chris Goodyear said otherwise these situations will continue to occur, especially with flu season approaching.
"Government must make special care and nursing home beds more readily available and streamline the patient assessment and approval process to move a senior out of hospital," Goodyear said.
Vitalité CEO Gilles Lanteigne said overcrowding reached a breaking point late Tuesday night. "We had 42 people on stretchers," he told reporters"
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Here is just one of several replies i made to you about Health Care 6 months ago
Minister directs health authorities to solve service interruptions at hospitals
New Brunswick's health minister says ‘everything is on the table’ in terms of solving health care ‘crisis’
Political Panel · Posted: Nov 28, 2019 9:33 PM AT
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Graeme Scott:
The political will does not exist to fix this.
We have seen how fast, and to what length, our government is willing to go to mandate vaccinations, but this is a non-starter for them.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: BINGO
Terry Tibbs
So Mr Higgs, still no word when the tax paying, law abiding, residents can hold a funeral for their deceased loved ones, but we can host tourists from Quebec?
David Amos
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Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Please let me know if and when you manage to hold a funeral for your loved one in order that I may turn up to pay my respect to another man who is not fond of Higgy's nonsense
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I think Higgy is upset at us for not taking the jobs
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey:
Not to worry, people are waking up, that little love affair is in it's death throes.
Not to worry, people are waking up, that little love affair is in it's death throes.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I concur
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Please let me know when and where you hold the funeral for your lady
Lou Bell
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Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Actually Funerals can be held ! Just liimits to how many can attend ! For the past couple of months reasonable people have been delaying " celebrations of life " till the virus subsides ! Then there are those naysayers who want to hold " end your life ' celebrations
David Amos
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Reply to @Lou Bell:
Methinks my old client the "The Beast" (RIP) and many others would agree
you could have embarrassed "No Class" Bobby Bass if you attended one of
their wrestling shows many years ago N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: POOF
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Lou Bell:
When the kids are grown and gone, when those of our generation have left for greener pastures, when siblings have scattered across Canada, tell me wise Lou how practical is a funeral under the police state measures of The Great And Wise Higgs?
Not to worry, the wait will soon be over, shortly we will be flooded with folks who don't give a tinkers toss fur Mr Higgs' rules.
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Hail Vickers!
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
What would a tired old security guard have to offer that is much, if ANY, different?
The well is poisoned.
What would a tired old security guard have to offer that is much, if ANY, different?
The well is poisoned.
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: It was a failed attempt at sarcasm. My bad
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Well put
Lou Bell
Keep the out of province Locums just that ! Outside ! No more cross border Docs ! I don't care which way they're going , in or out ! The Seniors Home is proof as to what can happen ! Once it gets into the Hospital we're in deep trouble !
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @Lou Bell: avoid hospitals if you are concerned with catching a virus
JoeBrown
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: I have begun back 40 excavations that will be turned into
living quarters for those who feel Higgs has not gone far enough.
James Smythe
Reply to @Lou Bell:
Really? When sick people go to the hospital we're in deep trouble? I'm
pretty sure that's where sick people go to get better, Lou.
David Amos
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Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks Higgy et al and the RCMP already know why I made a brand new blog in your honour N'esy Pas?
David Amos
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Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: I have to got there when my doctor wants to do another test on my bum ticker
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Lou Bell:
So when someone's medical appointment is delayed even longer because
their regular doctor isn't available, you're going to personally explain
to them why there wasn't a locum available to fill in for the doc and
see them instead?
David Amos
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Reply to @JoeBrown: Please explain your comment real slow
Lou Bell
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: They're supposed to be there to help prevent the disease and the spread , NOT promote it !!!
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid19-nb-death-long-term-care-1.5611120
Resident at long-term care facility dies from COVID-19, province announces 3 new cases
Death is the second in New Brunswick related to virus
· CBC News · Posted: Jun 13, 2020 2:21 PM AT
Another resident at Manoir de la Vallée in Atholville has has died from complications related to COVID-19. (Serge Bouchard/Radio-Canada)
Another resident at a long-term care facility near Campbellton, N.B., has died from complications related to COVID-19, Public Health announced Saturday.
The individual, a resident of the Manoir de la Vallée in Atholville, was in their 80s. The person is the second in New Brunswick to die from the virus.
"I was deeply saddened to learn of a death related to COVID-19 in our province," Premier Blaine Higgs said in a news release.
The news release does not confirm the identity of the person who died, but said the individual had been admitted to hospital.
Public Health also reported three new cases of the disease in the Campbellton region, also known as Zone 5, on Saturday.
The three new cases include two health-care workers at the Campbellton Regional Hospital and an employee at Manoir de la Vallée.
Their ages of the three new cases are as follows:
- An individual in their 20s
- An individual in their 30s
- An individual in their 50s
There are 29 active cases in the province. Four people are hospitalized and one person is in intensive care.
Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, offered condolences to the family and friends of the second person to die from COVID-19 in the province. (Government of New Brunswick)
Many of the cases are linked to Manoir de la Vallée.
To date, 36,605 tests have been conducted. Of the 157 confirmed cases, 126 people have recovered from the virus.
Campbellton Regional Hospital closes ER
The Vitalité Health Network announced its emergency room is closing effective 8 p.m. until further notice.Visits to the Campbellton Regional Hospital are also now prohibited, and all non-emergency services offered by the facility are cancelled until further notice.
"The Network has no choice but to take these measures immediately given the evolution of the spread of COVID-19 in Region 5," Gilles Lanteigne, president and CEO of the network, said in a press release sent out on Saturday.
Emergency services at the hospital are still open, but people with "mild symptoms" are being asked to contact their family physician, nurse practitioner or Tele-Care 811 before going to the emergency department.
What to do if you have symptoms
People concerned they might have COVID-19 can take a self-assessment on the government website at gnb.ca.Public Health says symptoms shown by people with COVID-19 have included: a fever above 38 C, a new cough or worsening chronic cough, sore throat, runny nose, headache, new onset of fatigue, new onset of muscle pain, diarrhea, loss of sense of taste or smell, and difficulty breathing. In children, symptoms have also included purple markings on the fingers and toes.
People with two of those symptoms are asked to:
- Stay at home.
- Call Tele-Care 811 or their doctor.
- Describe symptoms and travel history.
- Follow instructions.
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David Amos
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Methinks little Lou
and her buddy Ray should find it interesting that the tally of comments
has climbed back up to where it was last night N'esy Pas? David Amos
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Methinks the RCMP members who do receive my emails should agree that the desperate spin doctors who tap on their keyboards night and day supporting Higgy's Police State post too much N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
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Reply to @David Amos: Awww the big bad bully from Fundy Royal cant take a little of his own medicine... methinks
David Amos
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Reply to @David Amos: here are some of the wannabe constable's words tonight:
"How's Byron making out buddy he see any justice at the hands of Just Dave?"
Methinks this dude is one of the tr o lls who has been cyberstalking my family and I since I ran in Fundy Royal in 2004 and then wrote Bryon Prior's defense and counterclaim for the Supreme Court of Newfoundland in January of 2005 N'esy pas?
Reply to @David Amos: here are some of the wannabe constable's words tonight:
"How's Byron making out buddy he see any justice at the hands of Just Dave?"
Methinks this dude is one of the tr o lls who has been cyberstalking my family and I since I ran in Fundy Royal in 2004 and then wrote Bryon Prior's defense and counterclaim for the Supreme Court of Newfoundland in January of 2005 N'esy pas?
Ray Oliver
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Reply to @David Amos: Not even close.
David Amos
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Reply to @David Amos: Methinks the boss of the RCMP in the Fundy Royal Area since 2015 who took a promotion and a transfer back out west in lieu of retiring is well are that most Maritimers are in bed or finishing their last Saturday night beers on a nice evening in June rather than wasting their precious time posting mindless vitriol on the web about Byron Prior and I. However Inspector Morgan must admit its still early in Alberta and BC for the RCMP shills Ray and Durnford and everybody knows they live on the Internet 24/7 Anyone can Goggle their names and mine N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
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Reply to @Ray Oliver: Tha " Dave whiner line " . Home of the Tony's and James and Joe's and Paul's ! the conspiracy theorists and their unfounded , uninformed , and ignorant rants from social media experts with no education no honest facts , just anything they can grab off the other uneducated experts .
Lou Bell
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Reply to @David Amos: Just tap Dave and " Fiction " or " UFO " !
Reply to @David Amos: Just tap Dave and " Fiction " or " UFO " !
Ray Oliver
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Reply to @David Amos: All your emails are blocked or go to the spam bin. Why do you need to give the history lessons when attaching hotshot lawyers or cops names as if you're on a personal level with them? Is that part of your condition?
Reply to @David Amos: All your emails are blocked or go to the spam bin. Why do you need to give the history lessons when attaching hotshot lawyers or cops names as if you're on a personal level with them? Is that part of your condition?
Lou Bell
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Reply to @Ray Oliver: I'd say Dave'll be here till the " cows come home " but apparently the cows are " on a planet , far , far away ," and not sure when Scotty's gonna beam them back down to planet earth !
David Amos
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Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks if folks truly wish to giggle they should tap in Lou Bell Higgy Cardy butter tarts N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks if folks truly wish to giggle they should tap in Lou Bell Higgy Cardy butter tarts N'esy Pas?
David Amos
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Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks when the cows do come perhaps you should ask them to tap Tim Hortons Hampton RCMP so they can get a good laugh at your malicious nonsense last night N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
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Reply to @David Amos: Huh ?
Ray Oliver
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Hes trying to intimidate you as he saves all these back and forths on his blog for his future cases hes busy building in some guy near Frederictons tool shed. Booooo
David Amos
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Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks its fairly obvious that your desperate buddy "Ray' ain't got the first clue where I am but your hero Higgy's buddies in the RCMP in Hampton and Sussex certainly do N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks its fairly obvious that your desperate buddy "Ray' ain't got the first clue where I am but your hero Higgy's buddies in the RCMP in Hampton and Sussex certainly do N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
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Reply to @David Amos: You sniff an election coming up so must be hunting for some new digs in the Fundy Royal riding for a magical run to the Legislature. Will they let you in the building if you win ya think?
Reply to @David Amos: You sniff an election coming up so must be hunting for some new digs in the Fundy Royal riding for a magical run to the Legislature. Will they let you in the building if you win ya think?
Lou Bell
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Reply to @Ray Oliver: not sure what he's talking about with Hampton . I did read in the Newspaper the other day where Minister Cardy indicated there were unsigned messages of advice left for him in an aquaintenances mailbox though ! Kinda lacks intestinal fortitude I'd think , not only to not sign them , but also to not just deliver them to who they're intended for .
Reply to @Ray Oliver: not sure what he's talking about with Hampton . I did read in the Newspaper the other day where Minister Cardy indicated there were unsigned messages of advice left for him in an aquaintenances mailbox though ! Kinda lacks intestinal fortitude I'd think , not only to not sign them , but also to not just deliver them to who they're intended for .
David Amos
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Reply to @Lou Bell: However trust I will return to Fat Fred City to file 3 more lawsuits when the time is just right. Methinks any old mechanic would agree there is magic in good timing N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Lou Bell: However trust I will return to Fat Fred City to file 3 more lawsuits when the time is just right. Methinks any old mechanic would agree there is magic in good timing N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
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Reply to @Lou Bell: Its the Famous Amos butter tart recipe his clan has had tucked away for centuries..
Reply to @Lou Bell: Its the Famous Amos butter tart recipe his clan has had tucked away for centuries..
Lou Bell
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Reply to @Ray Oliver: A win would be getting at least 15 votes ! Let's see , there's Tony and James , and Paul , and Joe. Might be one or two more , but that's it
Reply to @Ray Oliver: A win would be getting at least 15 votes ! Let's see , there's Tony and James , and Paul , and Joe. Might be one or two more , but that's it
Lou Bell
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Reply to @Ray Oliver: Move over Colonel Sanders , Private Butter Tarts is a comin' !
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Move over Colonel Sanders , Private Butter Tarts is a comin' !
David Amos
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Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks its clear that you don't have the first clue as who I am do ya but I trust that your lawyer does N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks its clear that you don't have the first clue as who I am do ya but I trust that your lawyer does N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
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Reply to @Lou Bell: Well give him a touch of credit he placed better than the candidate who ran on a knot sea platform last showdown.. movin on up! Rob Moore watch ya back!!
Reply to @Lou Bell: Well give him a touch of credit he placed better than the candidate who ran on a knot sea platform last showdown.. movin on up! Rob Moore watch ya back!!
David Amos
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Reply to @Lou Bell: "Private Butter Tarts is a comin"
Methinks you have it backwards on purpose it was Cardy and his buddies who sent me the butter tarts in the Canada Post before the election in 2018 and I posted the signed note and his emails about it on the Internet before i ran in Sussex against Northrup. The RCMP and everybody else knows that N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Lou Bell: "Private Butter Tarts is a comin"
Methinks you have it backwards on purpose it was Cardy and his buddies who sent me the butter tarts in the Canada Post before the election in 2018 and I posted the signed note and his emails about it on the Internet before i ran in Sussex against Northrup. The RCMP and everybody else knows that N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
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Reply to @David Amos: And now you're sending along your own recipe cause their tarts just weren't satisfactory. That's mighty neighborly of ya!
Reply to @David Amos: And now you're sending along your own recipe cause their tarts just weren't satisfactory. That's mighty neighborly of ya!
David Amos
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Reply to @David Amos: Methinks the RCMP must have noticed that I am not feeding their tr o ll this evening N'esy Pas?
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks the RCMP must have noticed that I am not feeding their tr o ll this evening N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
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Reply to @David Amos So that's the " Butter tarts " story ! : I never got Butter tarts ! Ray , did you get Butter Tarts ? Ray and I should be the ones complaining if that's the case ! Of course I wouldn't have seen it on social media . I don't believe in that false crap ! People need to stay away from that stuff. Conspiracy theorists abound on those websites ! Tweety uses them in America and we all know about him .
Reply to @David Amos So that's the " Butter tarts " story ! : I never got Butter tarts ! Ray , did you get Butter Tarts ? Ray and I should be the ones complaining if that's the case ! Of course I wouldn't have seen it on social media . I don't believe in that false crap ! People need to stay away from that stuff. Conspiracy theorists abound on those websites ! Tweety uses them in America and we all know about him .
David Amos
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Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks thats your problem not mine N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks thats your problem not mine N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
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Reply to @David Amos: If the Liberals had gotten in I would have gotten a 130 Million Dollar bill for some " Phonie Games " ! And NO Butter Tarts to boot !
David Amos
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Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks if you had bothered to check my Twitter account long ago you would have discovered that I have making you rather infamous simply byway of republishing you words within the blog your buddy "Ray" (likely Dean Roger Ray or his buddy Dan Durnford ) is harping about tonight N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks if you had bothered to check my Twitter account long ago you would have discovered that I have making you rather infamous simply byway of republishing you words within the blog your buddy "Ray" (likely Dean Roger Ray or his buddy Dan Durnford ) is harping about tonight N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
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Reply to @David Amos: I live in your beloved Fundy Royal riding. You aren't doing much to win my vote next time around methinks
A G
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Has the doctor who started this cluster been arrested and charged with involuntary manslaughter yet?
David Amos
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Reply to @A G: WOW
Reply to @A G: WOW
David Amos
Methinks all the usual suspects who argue every issue within the Crown's forum 24/7 should consider investigating matters for themselves instead of attacking folks trying to inform them of what they know about Higgy's Police State N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos:
You dig to the heart of what's really going on. You've got the inside
track. More importance and respect in your pinky toe that the rest of us
EH??
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: You're a heckling spammer who's been told to cease and desist on a daily basis
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @Ray Oliver: David is a great contributor in a democracy. Refreshing to read his logical views.
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: Check his blog where hes gonna do some light bounty hunting for
Whitey Bulger. Or his cows being killed by laser beams. Or his wire tap
tapes he found in an FBI dumpster that could take down a sitting
president. LOGICAL. LOL.
Tony
Mcalbey
Reply to @Ray Oliver: methinks you have had a few to many cold ones this evening
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Its all there for anyone to read. I wish I was joking.
David Amos
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Methinks rather obvious that if your buddy "Ray" truly thought I was you he would not have spent all day arguing you about a virus N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: No when someone makes a ridiculous point I feel I can chime in. Again.. this isnt all about you big shooter
David Amos
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: How much do you know about what your buddy "Ray" is referring to?
"Check his blog where hes gonna do some light bounty hunting for Whitey Bulger. Or his cows being killed by laser beams. Or his wire tap tapes he found in an FBI dumpster that could take down a sitting president. LOGICAL. LOL."
David Amos
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Do you even know who Byron Prior is???
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Didnt an officer say he spotted Bulger in Nfld? Yet he had been living in California in the same condo for 16 years. Can you get any further from Nfld in North America than that? Alaska maybe? LOL. Bounty Hunter what a good laugh. You know it's illegal in Canada right?
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks the RCMP in Alberta should do a wellness check on their shill Dean Roger Ray N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks the RCMP in BC should also pay a visit on Bryon Prior's other buddy Dana Durnford as well N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks that anyone can read your blog pull out the goodies then fire it out here. Anyone can do this the way you refer people to it.
Lou Bell
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Ha ! Ha ! Ha ! Can't stop laughing ! You and Dave !!!
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks i have the right to say the same about you and your buddy "Ray" N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: CRY ME A RIVER. Sound familiar famous amos the bounty Hunter extraordinaire??
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks its interesting that you claim to not follow "social media" but claimed something else to another dude yesterday N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Matt Steele: Dave has a social media fan I see ! A couple , you and Terry .
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @David Amos: Ray is not my buddy
David Amos
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Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: and you are not me CORRECT???
Tony Mcalbey
Covid19 is right up there as the hoax the WMD’s in Iraq was. I know no one who knows anyone with or had covid19.
Lou Bell
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Not surprised . Few friends is a symptom of knowing no one with the virus .
Lou Bell
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: Ah Dave's got a new recruit for the " Me Party " to follow his
blog . That makes ONE believer follower of his social media false
narrative social media rants .
David Amos
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Reply to @Lou Bell:
Yo oh ye whose many words often go "POOF" If your buddy Ray truly lived
in Fundy Royal methinks he would have informed you that the RCMP
harassing people at Timmies was a true story
David Amos
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Reply to @Lou Bell:
Last night you claimed to know nothing about my Twitter and blogger
accounts CORRECT? Methinks you must have found them today N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos:
Never read a word from either and never will ! Same with FAUX News and
all the other false narrative media sites . Although my intimating that
you now have one follower in Tony appears to confirm I was right !
Congrats on that one ! Joe and Jane and James and Paul are potential
false narrative " social media experts " who you should reach out to !
The types of ringers Trump goes after .
Justin Time
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: Tell that to the 7,915,941 people worldwide that have been
infected and don't forget the 433,182 that have died.
Lou Bell
Reply to @Justin Time: Those numbers are way too big for Tony
David Amos
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Reply to @Lou Bell:
Methinks you should have your lawyer review all your published words At
least your hero Higgy and his buddies in the RCMP have my emails and
knows where to find a true record of your malice Nesy Pas?
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Justin
Time: And it is widely believed that those number are on the low side
due to countries that just don't want to admit the real numbers and
because many have passed away probably from covid but were never tested.
Terry Tibbs
So Mr Higgs, still no word when the tax paying, law abiding, residents can hold a funeral for their deceased loved ones, but we can host tourists from Quebec?
James Smythe
Reply to @Terry
Tibbs: Family is non-essential Terry, didn't you hear? Unless you're all
protesting together of course. Protip: rename your funeral a "protest",
then proceed as normal.
Terry
Tibbs
Reply to @James Smythe:
Or maybe a healing walk and the government will cover the air fare and expenses?
Or maybe a healing walk and the government will cover the air fare and expenses?
Tony
Mcalbey
Reply to @Terry
Tibbs: Higgy must be upset at us nbers. I think a lot more people will
be leaving the province. Then govt wonders why young people leave, few
good paying jobs and now govt be over controlling.
David Amos
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Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: Methinks your buddy Ray who claimed to live in Fundy Royal last
night is no doubt packing his bags today and booking the next flight to
Alberta or BC before Higgy orders the minions in his Police Sate to do a
wellness check on him just like the RCMP pulled on me 12 very long
years ago N'esy Pas? "Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: I live in your beloved Fundy Royal riding. You aren't doing much to win my vote next time around methinks"
David Amos
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Reply to @Terry
Tibbs: Methinks you would have enjoyed the circus with Lou and her buddy
Ray late last night before it went "Poof" N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos:
No one cares about the leader of the " Me Party " ! There over 749,999
other people to look after ! The " Me Party " is a self centered one
person party that has no interest in helping the other 749 ,999 N.B.ers
!!!
Lou Bell
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: 83 % of N.B. ers approve of Higgs and the job he's doing ! BEST
in Canada ! Other than the Liberal backed Zone 5 COVID has pretty wll
been a no show here in N.B. ! People will be coming to the Province !
Safe and secure and as long as we keep the SANB Liberals and their
underhanded exploits away from the provincial coffers we'll be doing
great ! Being one of the 17 % dissenters isn't much of a confirmation
for anyone to accept any ignorant and uninformed ramblings from one of
those dissenters !
David Amos
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Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks folks will believe that you must be arguing with a ghost N'esy Pas?
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David Amos:
Don't worry about Lou. A broken clock is right twice a day, and holds a record that Lou aspires to.
Don't worry about Lou. A broken clock is right twice a day, and holds a record that Lou aspires to.
David Amos
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Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Oh so true Check my blog with the following title if you wish to chuckle all day "Methinks Higgy's Circus must go on and on and on N'esy Pas?"
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: What a joke ! The blog everyone's laughing at !
David Amos
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Reply to @Lou Bell: True but you are one of the clowns they are laughing at
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: You are free to leave anytime Tony. I hear Montreal and Toronto
are nice, especially if you think covid is a hoax.
James Smythe
Here are your CDC statistics from the US (population 330 million), where I'm sure we can all agree handled Covid much worse than we did in Canada, breaking down mortality per age group, current as of June 6, 2020: (2.11 million cases to date)
mortality as % of positive case #
Under 1 year old: 5 0.000237
1 - 4: 3 0.000142
5-14: 13 0.000616
15-24: 116 0.005498
25-34: 640 0.0303
35-44: 1649 0.782
45-54: 4588 0.217
55-64: 11,439 0.542
65-74: 19,857 0.941
75-84: 25,520 1.21
85+: 31,778 1.51
What you may notice from the data set, is that older people are more likely to pass away. And this holds true for natural causes, and all other infectious diseases. You can all calm down now. We've handled it better in Canada, your risk is likely lower than the chart presented. Can't wait for all the confirmation bias displays below this comment.
Bob Smith
Reply to @James
Smythe: Uh huh...how's that data for vaccinations for the Covid virus?
Oh, right, none. I know that anyone treating this as serious is a waste
of time when talking to folks like you so I'll ignore you from now on.
Richard Cyr
Reply to @James Smythe:
+10 likes for crushing their illusions.
+10 likes for crushing their illusions.
David Amos
Reply to @James Smythe: Well done
Lou Bell
Reply to @James Smythe: Your uninformed figures say nothing about those who will suffer from the long term affects of having COVID. All you have is the deaths , not including what is speculated to be thousands more who died and are now suspected to have had COVID ! You're the expert , tell us how many who had the virus and are now being revealed as having damage done to multiple organs ! C'mon Jimmy tell us !!!
Fred Brewer
Reply to @James
Smythe: Too many people are way too focused on only mortality of the
elderly, and are ignoring the possibility of permanent organ damage to
covid survivors of all ages. The doctors are becoming increasing
worried about things like lung damage and a shortened life span as a
result of contracting covid 19. Covid is also believed to be
responsible for severe health issues that are cropping up in small
children.
James
Smythe
Reply to @Lou Bell:
They’re not uninformed Lou. It’s 3 months of aggregate data directly
from the CDC, accurate as of less than a week ago, and compiled in a
country who has done a worse job than Canada. You are displaying
confirmation bias and preferring to remain in fear. If you are 54 and
younger like I am, you have a 99.8% chance of survival, and the
healthier you are, the greater the chance you’ll live. Period.
James
Smythe
Reply to @Fred
Brewer: I think people like yourself are far too focused on the rare
complications. That’s all the media reports, the exception. You never
hear about the many people who had mild symptoms only and survived
without long term effects. We were lied to, and I know that’s hard for
you to process, but politicians lie, so does the news sensationalize,
and numbers don’t lie.
Fred
Brewer
Reply to @James
Smythe: Ever try Dr. Google for information about the long term effects
of covid on survivors? Please, do us a favour and only rely on credible
sites when you do your research on permanent effects of covid on
survivors.
Justin Time
Reply to @James
Smythe: Using the CDC numbers you refer to when the total US deaths were
95,608, and using the age group 45-64, which represents the largest
portion of New Brunswickers (30%) there were 16027 deaths in the US in
that age group. Thats out of a total of 95,608 deaths at that time.
Thats 16.8%. The 85 + age group showed 31,778 deaths or 33.2%. So it's
not just the elderly that are dying.
David Amos
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Reply to @James
Smythe: Methinks the supporters of Higgy's Police State suffer from
deliberate cognitive dissonance after partaking of Cardy's butter tarts
supplied by Big Pharma and served by little Lou a neigbour of his near
Fat Fred City N'esy Pas?
Paul Milner
This headline is so misleading. 80 and 90 year old are not dying of CV. They are dying of old age/ complications. CV is the straw that broke the camel's back, that's all. All these ridiculous headlines do is stoke irrational fear. Comorbidity should be reported as its own statistic. Meanwhile in NB over 3000 people have died of other causes this year.
Justin Time
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: Any of the websites reporting Covid statistics will show you
the 8.1% death rate for known cases. The other numbers on age expectancy
come from another news article on CBC. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/covid19-elderly-deaths-1.5542967
David Amos
Reply to @Justin Time: Do you believe everything CBC tells you?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos:
Why comment and play on their news page if you don't read it for
current pertinent Provincial information? Methinks you just here to pump
your own tires as a great politician and legal beagle!!!
Reply to @Ray Oliver: methinks you’re jealous
Fay Briggs
Reply to @Jackie
Barret Premier Blaine Higgs and Dr. Jennifer Russell have nothing to
apologize for they did not release the persons name. They just said it
was a health care worker at the hospital. Social media and CBC decided
it was Ngola. They are the ones who need to apologize to this man.
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: Hes a couch surfing user who plays helping the downtrodden for a
place to stay and mooch off of. How's Byron making out buddy he see any
justice at the hands of Just Dave?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: Far from jealous if you see the spamming and CCs on emails he
fires around annoying people who could care less about the nonsense. I
feel hes jealous of them as he will soon be totally forgotten
Tom Campbell
Reply to @Paul Milner: Without the restrictive measures, the numbers would have been much higher. Everyone should knot this by now.
Tom Campbell
Reply to @Denis
LeBlanc: Couldn't agree more. These posters have been hammering these
repetitive posts out for over 3 months even though there is evidence to
the contrary in numerous countries.
Tom Campbell
Reply to @Fred Brewer: That's the case in Hamilton.
Lorne Allen
Reply to @Justin Time: The 8 years figure is an average, some will live 1 more day, some will live 12 more years or longer. It is most likely that those who die with covid were on the short side of that statistic. it is a good argument though if not looked at critically.
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Johnny Almar
Reply to @Jackie Barrett: He is 100% responsible. The only thing he has told the truth about was not being patient zero. His daughter was.
Justin Time
Reply to @David Amos:
If you do enough looking you can distinguish fact from fiction ,
unfortunate for some. N'esy Pas? butter tarts, lawsuits, medicare card,
harley davidson, police state, mafia, massachusetts, nova scotia,
alberta, rcmp, etc.
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Paul Milner: " most of us already had it and are fine?"
And where did you come up with that fact? Most of us have NOT had it and those that have had it, could have lifelong health issues and some doctors suspect a shorter life span.
And where did you come up with that fact? Most of us have NOT had it and those that have had it, could have lifelong health issues and some doctors suspect a shorter life span.
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Jackie
Barrett: "Dr. Ngola revealed based on investigative evidence that he was
not responsible for New Brunswick's second COVID-19 wave."
So that's it? Just because he says he was not responsible we have to believe him? Since we know he was untruthful to border officials about the purpose of his trip and was evasive when questioned, his credibility is shot. If he was not responsible, then there will be a lawsuit and in court the truth will come out. Until then, when I look at all the evidence, I see his actions as the cause of the current outbreak of covid in zone 5. Patient Zero was his daughter.
So that's it? Just because he says he was not responsible we have to believe him? Since we know he was untruthful to border officials about the purpose of his trip and was evasive when questioned, his credibility is shot. If he was not responsible, then there will be a lawsuit and in court the truth will come out. Until then, when I look at all the evidence, I see his actions as the cause of the current outbreak of covid in zone 5. Patient Zero was his daughter.
Mary Smith
Reply to @Fred Brewer:
Also, Patient Zero or not, he was irresponsible and not forthcoming and
broke the emergency rules and should have isolated upon re-entry to NB.
No one claimed he was patient zero, he started saying that as a way to
deflect from everything else. He's evaded questions still regarding
what he told the border guards, and what they told him.
I do hope they'll be a lawsuit, and all the facts will come out in court. Whether he was patient zero or not, does not change the fact that he violated the emergency public health rules, putting all of NB at risk.
He got caught, and is now trying everything he can to save face, but he did what he did, and that is fact and he admits that he did not isolate upon returning from a personal trip, and that alone is enough for the backlash against him - regardless of if he was sick or not, or patient zero or not, or if his child was patient zero or not.
I do hope they'll be a lawsuit, and all the facts will come out in court. Whether he was patient zero or not, does not change the fact that he violated the emergency public health rules, putting all of NB at risk.
He got caught, and is now trying everything he can to save face, but he did what he did, and that is fact and he admits that he did not isolate upon returning from a personal trip, and that alone is enough for the backlash against him - regardless of if he was sick or not, or patient zero or not, or if his child was patient zero or not.
James Smythe
Reply to @Fred
Brewer: I mean, you believe the news that there's a serious pandemic
going around, so that statement should be all you need to hear since
you're so willing to believe what you've been told.
David Amos
Reply to @Justin Time: And your point is???
Justin
Time
Reply to @David Amos:
My point is that I follow the old school rule of "Believe nothing that
you hear and only half of what you see." Learn to filter information and
fact check.
Paul Milner
Reply to @Tom
Campbell: so what if it's way higher? A lot more people would need to
die before this was an actual "crisis." Certainly nothing close to the
scope of what we've done to suffocate this rural province. The situation
in NB could never be as bad as Italy, NYC, Montreal even if we tried.
We are simply set up so differently. It's a broad brush to paint all of
us the same way and it's simply not warranted.
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Justin
Time: That is why I never believed anything you posted because you broke
the rules in this forum out of the gate by posting in a name nobody
could believe At least you admitted that folks can Google me and sort
out the truth from fiction for themselves Furthermore anyone can go to
the Federal Court in Fat Fred City and pull my file Correct?
Fred
Brewer
Reply to @James Smythe: Your logic is faulty. The doctor is in a conflict of interest whereas the media is not.
Tom
Campbell
Reply to @Paul Milner: You keep right on beileving that. With half the population sick at once there wouldn't be any economy.
Bob Smith
A few days ago, there were several comments saying, among other things, that Covid was only contracted by the elderly or already sick. Sad to see an article like this which shows otherwise. I hope this pandemic doesn't lead to more deaths in NB.
JoeBrown
Reply to @Bob Smith: Whoever you reference was likely just playing with you. Irrelevant.
Bob Smith
Reply to @JoeBrown: No, they were quite serious in a "know it all" way.
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Bob Smith: Methinks that is an understatement N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Bob Smith: Methinks that is an understatement N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
Very disturbing are the continuing cases with the Healthcare workers at the Hospital . May need to be addressed by Vitalite' . Their " different strokes for different folks " re Locums appears to be not working .
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Lou Bell:
Proof that the continuing cases at the hospital are due to in-coming
locums vs infections already existing in Zone 5 = ?
Lou Bell
Reply to @SarahRose
Werner: Could be . the big concern is that so far it's only been
hospital staff . What happens when it gets to the patients . Also , how
is the virus spreading amongst the patients in the long term care homes ?
Person to person or is there any possibility it can be spread through
the ventilation system ? Not sure if the home would have one or not .
Lou Bell
Reply to @Lou Bell: home , not homes .
JoeBrown
Reply to @Lou Bell:
Dementia patients are hard to keep safe because they don`t remember or
understand anything. Lots of people in there have dementia and an
earlier death had it so that might be why it is spreading. Most n homes
in Canada that got an outbreak ended up with more and even lots of
cases, fwiw.
Tony
Mcalbey
Reply to @JoeBrown: and why are we shutting down the economy for these people is not logical
JoeBrown
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: More cerb per capita in NB. Higgs has highest popularity so
most people must like being broke or do not understand.
JoeBrown
Reply to @Lou Bell:
NS first case in 4 days at Norwood again. Half of them must be immune
now but it is a big place and covid never stops.
JoeBrown
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: Yeah, NS got another case in Norwood today, so those places are
inevitable covid magnets but it is a different world outside and the
shut down should end.
Paul Milner
Reply to @JoeBrown: You're spot on. How did we fall this far?
doug kirby
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: have no idea why other than to force nb broke obviously...now
the man is allowing Quebec in to travel which by the way is the correct
thing to do ....however what is interesting to many people now is could
the list be posted as to who higgs thinks is more important than the
next and where is it written he has a say....there is more wrong than
right happening now with this virus...unfortunately it got into a long
term home and so sorry to hear but it will be contained and you will
learn to live with this but my god people wake up....you seriously don’t
have to be dictated to especially by a man who believes he is the prime
minister or something.
SarahRose
Werner
Reply to @Lou Bell:
You and I have the luxury of being able to feed ourselves, dress
ourselves, bath ourselves and relieve ourselves without close contact
from care workers. People in long-term care homes, not so much. I'm
sure that staff are masking, gloving, sanitizing and doing as much as
they can do to avoid the spread of infection. But nothing works 100%.
The fact remains that every time a staff member tests positive, all the
residents who were cared for by that worker are at risk. Every time a
resident tests positive, all the workers who cared for that resident are
at risk.
SarahRose
Werner
Reply to @doug kirby:
"especially by a man who believes he is the prime minister or
something" - I've never seen Higgs attempting to exercise control over
the federal government, as the prime minister does. As premier - the
prime minister's provincial counterpart - he has both the right and the
responsibility to exercise control over the province, acting within the
guidelines of provincial and federal law.
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you should take a break and come on down sip coffee with Higgy's buddies at Timmies in Fundy Royal the RCMP won't bother you N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you should take a break and come on down sip coffee with Higgy's buddies at Timmies in Fundy Royal the RCMP won't bother you N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Methinks you should never forget that your hero Higgy asked his buddies the RCMP to put down their donuts and investigate what when down up north N'esy Pas?
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Methinks you should never forget that your hero Higgy asked his buddies the RCMP to put down their donuts and investigate what when down up north N'esy Pas?
doug kirby
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: exactly guidelines....he should follow them
JoeBrown
Reply to @Paul Milner: Easy to spread in homes, because virus is invisible and dementia patients are hard to take care of. They don't understand anything but need to be fed, get sick, make messes, won't stay still, some yell all the time, and need to be washed etc.
Johnny Almar
Reply to @Paul Milner: Trudeau and the WHO. Both are lost.
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Lou Bell:
Methinks if you wish to review all that you posted last night your
buddy "Ray" can teach you where to find it N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
So sad and so avoidable .
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @Lou Bell: how avoidable? This virus been around for months. Government isn’t protecting taxpayers
Lou Bell
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: If you understood the rules and how they work , someone broke
the rules and this all happened ! Has been in the news for a month ! Pay
attention .
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @Lou Bell: no way 1 person infected that many, impossible
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Nfld? A couple months back? Where you been?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: And 1 person can give it to 8.. those 8 take it home to their
family and friends.. it becomes exponential. It all starts with 1 to
cause a flurry of cases again in any area
Bob Smith
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: Newfoundland funeral...Nova Scotia and the Northwood home.
Quebec's disastrous decision to reopen schools during the pandemic. Want
more examples?
Tony
Mcalbey
Reply to @Ray Oliver: can’t blame 1 for infecting all
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: If the virus is known to have been under control and someone
who breaks the known rules is the reason it revives again.. then yeah. I
sure can. Be in the bridge protest or one whiny doctor
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Have you not heard of the term "super spreader"?
In essence when the doctor saw 150 patients and interacted with hospital staff, shopped for groceries and did his errands while he was infected, he became NB's first super spreader.
In essence when the doctor saw 150 patients and interacted with hospital staff, shopped for groceries and did his errands while he was infected, he became NB's first super spreader.
Justin Time
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: Wrong. Catch up on the news. There are super spreaders and just
remember one infected person started this whole thing.
David Amos
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Methinks you must understand the wannabe constable's wicked little game by now N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: A game you'll never win Methinks. Sorry. Me knows!
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos:
Why you responding to yourself on here? Can't you have that "wicked"
little chat with Tony right in your own head? Or is it a packed house up
there tonight?
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @Ray Oliver: you should know by now you’re wrong
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: Hiii Dave. Dont make it so obvious. Rub those 2 clues together
try to run some different lingo. Not a soul would defend the guy.
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: You haven't been on as long as I've been calling out the "fierce political animal" as he calls himself. Yet you know so much. Hmmmm. Not hard to figure that out Dave Amos 2.0
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: "you should know by now you’re wrong"
Methinks you should finally explain to me why you have allowed my political foes to falsely claim that I am you for so long N'esy Pas?
Johnny Almar
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Lol. South Korea super spreader post lockdown. Google it.
Johnny Almar
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Click on their profiles and then mute them. I just did.
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: Methinks everybody should understand why I don't feel bad about
the Johnny "Never Been Good" Almar muting me I bet the RCMP muted that
snitch out of the gate N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: Methinks it very comical that Almar argues you then tells your
buddy Ray that he muted you and I so he can't see our replies Talk about
sticking one's head in the sand and leaving one's hind end high in the
air N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-19-virus-pandemic-roundup-1.5609379
N.B. COVID-19 roundup: Province confirms new case at Campbellton hospital
The new case involves a health-care worker in their 40s who works at the hospital
· CBC News · Posted: Jun 12, 2020 12:45 PM AT
Public Health has confirmed one new case of COVID-19, a health-care worker at the Campbellton Regional Hospital. (Shane Fowler/CBC)
Public Health has confirmed one new case of COVID-19 at the Campbellton Regional Hospital after announcing two health-care workers tested positive for the virus on Thursday.
The new case is an individual in their 40s, who is also a health-care worker at the Campbellton Regional Hospital. Vitatlié Health Network confirmed a health-care worker at the hospital was diagnosed with the virus on Wednesday.
"When outbreaks occur, it reminds us that we need to continue our efforts to prevent the spread of COVID-19," said Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health in a news release.
"We need to maintain physical distancing and practise good hygiene everywhere we go to avoid new outbreaks. We can be kind and continue to support each other through this pandemic."
28 active cases of COVID-19
There are 28 active cases in the province.The first in a cluster of cases was reported May 21 in the Campbellton region, also known as Zone 5, after a doctor travelled to Quebec for personal reasons and did not self-isolate after returning home to the area. Many of the cases have been found at Manoir de la Vallée, a long-term care facility in Atholville.
Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, is reminding residents to wash their hands and continue physically distancing themselves from others. (Government of New Brunswick/Submitted)
One resident of the Manoir has died. Five people from the region are in hospital, one of them in intensive care.
There have been 154 confirmed cases of COVID-19 in New Brunswick, with 125 who have recovered from the respiratory illness.
As of Friday, 36,125 tests have been conducted.
There could be more unknown cases lurking, epidemiologist says
An epidemiologist is warning New Brunswickers that there might be more cases of COVID-19 across the province.The province has seen a cluster of new cases of the respiratory illness over the past two weeks in the Campbellton region, but Dr. Colin Furness, an infection control epidemiologist and assistant professor at the University of Toronto, said some people could be asymptomatic or only have a minor case of the virus.
"It would surprise me if we tested everyone in New Brunswick right now if we got zero positive cases," said Furness.
"Even if somehow there's zero circulating COVID we have to remember it's only a car ride or a plane ride away from a new case landing in the community and that's the new normal for a little while."
Colin Furness, an infection control epidemiologist and assistant professor at the University of Toronto, says there are likely more cases of COVID-19 in New Brunswick. We just don't know about them. (University of Toronto)
Furness is warning New Brunswickers not to be cavalier about the COVID-19 virus, even if it looks like the outbreak is waning.
"COVID isn't gone, it's in the background," he said.
"And if we let it, it will come back. And it will come roaring back. And that's something that we're going to be coping with for some time."
Furness recommends maintaining physical distancing and wearing masks while out in public, even advocating for making them mandatory for stores.
"My gut tells me that masks will prove to be important," he said, "And just by way of reminder, they're important because they help you keep your droplets to yourself so that you protect others and that others wearing masks protects you."
Last week the province announced that masks would be mandatory in all indoor public environments, before backtracking on the decision within 24 hours.
Furness said early studies have indicated that the virus is acting similar to other coronaviruses, meaning that there will likely be a lull of cases during the summer months.
But that could also mean the potential of a second wave, which New Brunswickers will have to guard against.
Furness says masks help people keep droplets to themselves during the COVID-19 era. (Elizabeth Fraser/CBC)
"The good news is that even if we're not being disciplined we will have, I believe, pretty substantial protection this summer," said Furness.
"The downside is that if we convince ourselves over the next three months that we've won and that we don't need to be vigilant we will set the conditions for a very vicious second wave in mid to late autumn."
Furness said there are promising signs that a vaccine could be developed within two years, but cautions that you still need to manufacture about seven billion doses.
In the meantime, governments will have to balance between implementing too many restrictions, which could lead to people not following any, and implementing too few, which could open us up for even more cases.
Furness is also hopeful Ottawa will keep the Canada-U.S. border closed in coming months.
"I think come the fall it's going to get awful," he said. "And I think this is going to be easily the largest loss of life in American history."
What to do if you have symptoms
People concerned they might have COVID-19 can take a self-assessment on the government website at gnb.ca.Public Health says symptoms shown by people with COVID-19 have included: a fever above 38 C, a new cough or worsening chronic cough, sore throat, runny nose, headache, new onset of fatigue, new onset of muscle pain, diarrhea, loss of sense of taste or smell, and difficulty breathing. In children, symptoms have also included purple markings on the fingers and toes.
People with two of those symptoms are asked to:
- Stay at home.
- Call Tele-Care 811 or their doctor.
- Describe symptoms and travel history.
- Follow instructions.
With files from Jordan Gill
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Lou Bell
Conspiracy theorists in full swing tonight ! RCMP goin' after Timmie coffee drinkers ! Aliens , cows , UFO's ! Must be a full moon tonight !!!
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you should say Hey to Higgy and the RCMP in Fundy Royal for me sometime soon N'esy Pas?
Dave Corbin
Will the RCMP allow us to have our Tim Horton coffee sitting in our own truck in the parking lot now or is it just the Tim Horton's in Hampton that we are not allowed?
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @Dave Corbin: when and why is this happening?
David Amos
Reply to @Dave Corbin: RCMP dudes working for Higgy's Police State have threatened people at the Tim's Sussex too
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @David Amos: what on earth laws are Tim’s coffee drinkers in own vehicles breaking ?
David Amos
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Ask Higgy and the RCMP
Michel Forgeron
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: As I understand it, If it's a family member it's ok, ,but a non family member would have to be in the back seat, if you have a back seat. Re other Tim's stuff, in some places you're allowed inside, now can sit at a table etc., as long as you keep 6' distance.
David Amos
Reply to @Michel Forgeron: FYI They both were sitting alone in their vehicles
JJ Carrier
Reply to @Michel Forgeron: Some Tim's are requesting you stay six feet away from David Amos...Something about hot air with no substance or coherent presentation besides his own 'egobubble' that causes your TimBits to explode...
Ray Oliver
Reply to @JJ Carrier:
Just the smell of him alone will give ya that 6 feet. Can't manage a
haircut in 20 years or soo showering is most likely a biweekly event at
best!
Justin Gunther
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
Not surprising that the CBC is allowing egregious personal attacks
against certain individuals. If I suggest that somebody might have an IQ
below 150 I get instabanned for being mean.
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos:
Sure they have ! The same people needing ER service nightly at the
Sussex ER !!! It's so busy ! Busier than at Tims !!!
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: You're the guy spreading the GOSSIP ! You tell us
Lou Bell
Reply to @Dave
Corbin: Most likely Timmies doen't like nefarious looking characters
hangin' around their businesses and called the Police !
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos:
Tell us what they threatened them with Dave ! Tell us who and exactly
what was said . Or , most likely , another social media conspiracy
theorist .
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Lou Bell:
"Trust that I called them and they can't deny we spoke" will be his
response. Oh the worldly advice he must yield. I should give him my #.
You hang up first. No you hang up Davey!
David Amos
Reply to @Justin Gunther: Methinks anyone call Google Tim Hortons Hampton RCMP N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Go Figure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XoJJF7ImcM
"I have an incredible update to the story of Walter Matheson. He's the Hampton, New Brunswick resident who was ticketed almost $300 by police for failure to comply with emergency measures in a Tim Hortons parking lot while he ate his muffin and finished his coffee, completely alone in his car."
David Amos
Reply to @JJ Carrier: Methinks its not surprising that a lot of your nasty friends use fake names but at least I know that you don't N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: "Tell us who and exactly what was said"
Methinks even your nasty no-name buddy Ray or his MLA Mr Oliver can pick up their smart phones and say "Hey Google" then ask about the RCMP in Hampton and Mr Matheson N'esy Pas?
Methinks even your nasty no-name buddy Ray or his MLA Mr Oliver can pick up their smart phones and say "Hey Google" then ask about the RCMP in Hampton and Mr Matheson N'esy Pas?
James Smythe
What about the Great Wave of Kanagawa? Why is nobody talking about that?!
Evelyn Gaudreau
Reply to @James Smythe: humour is a very subtle art... not all attempts succeed.
David Amos
Reply to @Evelyn Gaudreau: Methinks its hard to love a critic N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: Some , not mentioning any names , have no clue about what they're criticizing , just wanna hear themselves complain .
JoeBrown
"My gut tells me that masks will prove to be important," he said, "And just by way of reminder, they're important because they help you keep your droplets to yourself so that you protect others and that others wearing masks protects you."
This is why the virus will never go away despite the fact this simple solution exists to cut spread. Most people don't care about others so won't mask up.
June Arnott
Reply to @JoeBrown: yup, selfish Canadians abound.
David Amos
Reply to @June Arnott: So you say
Tristin Time
Reply to @June Arnott: So you think masks are the cure for this virus?
JoeBrown
Reply to @Tristin Time: If she did believe that, she would have said that.
Michael Guravich
Hey, CBC, you need to separate yourselves from that lynch mob that wanted to crucify the doctor “that travelled to Quebec”. If you don’t know by now, there’s credible information that he may have had nothing to do with the recent Region 5 cluster. Get yourselves caught up and stop peddling that Higgs hysteria. There were lots of others going back and forth across that bridge, every day.
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @Michael Guravich: well said
SarahRose
Werner
Reply to @Michael
Guravich: There's a huge difference between participating in a "lynch
mob" that wants to "crucify" someone - anyone - and holding people
accountable for their actions. Whether or not the doctor was patient 0
is under investigation. It *is* known that he lied to border officials.
And obviously he *did* have something to do with the Zone 5 cluster:
he was one of the earliest cases involved in it. The use of
inflammatory language, whether pro or con, does nothing to clarify the
situation.
Lou Bell
Reply to @Michael
Guravich: His P.I. came up with a few " scenarios " that " could
possibly have happened " ! It very may have been his child ! I believe
he/ she was the 1st person announced ! And who was responsible for
bringing her in from Quebec ? He lied to border officials and who knows
all else that he did ! I'll trust those responsible for the contact
tracing than some spin doctoring paid P.I. brought in to claim otherwise
!
SarahRose
Werner
Reply to @Lou Bell:
"I believe he/ she was the 1st person announced !" - We know that the
first person announced was a child, both of whose parents were
healthcare workers. I've never read a credible source stating that
these parents were in fact the doctor and his wife. I'd respectfully
suggest that this is the kind of speculation we need to put on hold
while the investigation proceeds.
Lou Bell
Reply to @SarahRose
Werner: As I said , I have faith in the contact tracing that was done by
the Dept. of Health and they haven't said or done anything that would
indicate there's anything different ! The only thing we've heard is his
HIRED P.I. said there could be other scenarios. If it wasn't him I'd
bet my money it was his child . Funny the P.I. made no mention of that !
Filip Krynick
Reply to @Michael
Guravich: "Ngola said he drove straight there and back with no stops and
had no contact with anyone" now he's saying that people he came contact
with in quebec are tested negative... so was it no contact or with
contact.
Chris Jones
Reply to @Lou Bell:
Why would you have faith / trust for people responsible for contact
tracing, when it's clear they don' t have (or haven't released) any hard
evidence. It's complete speculation at this point. There's been no
charges laid to this point, which indicates they don't have the firm
evidence to say it was the Dr in question.
There's a reason why the justice system is "Innocent until proven guilty". There's certainly flaws within the court systems, but it's still a hell of a lot better than vigilantism rules and accusations.
There's a reason why the justice system is "Innocent until proven guilty". There's certainly flaws within the court systems, but it's still a hell of a lot better than vigilantism rules and accusations.
Monsieur Rioux
Reply to @Michael
Guravich: Could somebody clarify please. Was it not reported that after
the second long period with no new cases, a child (with a connection to
do different day cares) was a new live case and that the child's parents
didn't understand how because they had taken all precautions.
Were we not then told that a doctor had travelled outside the province, had misled the border officials and then failed to self isolate, followed by the revelation that the doctor was the child's father?
While people have been unable to visit ill and dying relatives and even attend funerals LOCALLY, the child's mother saw fit to fly to another continent for a funeral with the doctor facilitating this action, potentially coming back into NB two people with the virus (he and child), with neither isolating.
Am I remembering this incorrectly or was it reported this way but then retracted?
Were we not then told that a doctor had travelled outside the province, had misled the border officials and then failed to self isolate, followed by the revelation that the doctor was the child's father?
While people have been unable to visit ill and dying relatives and even attend funerals LOCALLY, the child's mother saw fit to fly to another continent for a funeral with the doctor facilitating this action, potentially coming back into NB two people with the virus (he and child), with neither isolating.
Am I remembering this incorrectly or was it reported this way but then retracted?
Monsieur Rioux
Reply to @SarahRose
Werner: I believe it was eventually reported, a few days after the news
about the doc surfaced, on these very pages that it was father and
child.
David Amos
Reply to @Michael Guravich: YUP
Carlson MacKenzie
Reply to @Lou Bell:
" I'll trust those responsible for the contact tracing than some spin
doctoring paid P.I. brought in to claim otherwise !"
You didn't include the keyboard cowboys who no doubt get their impressive knowledge from the flatulate wind that blows when they raise a leg slightly from their chair.
You didn't include the keyboard cowboys who no doubt get their impressive knowledge from the flatulate wind that blows when they raise a leg slightly from their chair.
David Amos
Reply to @Carlson MacKenzie: Oh My My
Carlson MacKenzie
Reply to @David Amos: Look! There's one now!
Graham MacNab
Reply to @Michael Guravich: What credible information? The info from the Private Investigator that he hired?
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Monsieur Rioux: According to Dr Ngola, as reported by the CBC June 2, he was contacted on May 25 and told that one of his patients had tested positive. He then had himself and his daughter tested. They too both tested positive. However, the first case of COVID in the outbreak, the case of a child who'd attended two different daycares, was reported May 21. Therefore this child was not the doctor's daughter, because she wasn't tested until the 25th or 26th (assuming that the doctor is telling the truth re: her testing date, but he'd be foolish to lie about something so easily verifiable). It *might* be that the child in the first case was another child of the doctor's, but I've never read this in any reliable source.
SarahRose
Werner
Reply to @Graham
MacNab: If you read Dr Ngola's statements to the CBC closely, *all* that
the PI found was that there are other possibilities to Dr Ngola being
patient 0. Until these possibilities are investigated further, we
simply don't know whether or not the doctor was patient 0.
Monsieur Rioux
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: When the child's positive test was announced, it came with "both parents are health care workers at the hospital" and then when it was announced that a health care worker at the hospital had previously been out of NB and back without isolating and had returned with his daughter, one didn't need to be too cynical to assume that the child was his.
However, a key factor is that with each announced subsequent positive test and contact tracing in the early cases, before it took hold in the care home, it was stated that each person testing positive had contact with the person reported previously who had failed to isolate upon returning to the province.
My newspaper and CTV have reported one child only in this batch of positive results.
John Oliver
Reply to @Monsieur
Rioux: If you travel to Longueuil and then stop to discuss job
opportunities in Trois-Rivieres. I am going to be skeptical that you are
not the source of the infection. It would be best if his ex-wife could
be tested, as well. The child is potentially patient zero, not the
doctor. He travelled as late as May 16.
The Campbellton COVID-19 cluster started when a child in the Campbellton region was diagnosed on May 21. Five days later, an individual in their 90s tested positive in the same zone. The next day, the province announced a person in their 50s had tested positive.
During the week of May 10, he drove to the Montreal suburb of Longueuil to pick up his daughter after her mother had to leave the country for a family emergency. There, he said he limited his contacts to the 4-year-old and his brother, who had been caring for her.
On his way back, he stopped in the city of Trois-Rivières to meet with two fellow physicians for a discussion about the pandemic and possible future work in Quebec. A private investigator hired by Mr. Ngola’s lawyer said the meeting took place in a local clinic for about 20 minutes.
The Campbellton COVID-19 cluster started when a child in the Campbellton region was diagnosed on May 21. Five days later, an individual in their 90s tested positive in the same zone. The next day, the province announced a person in their 50s had tested positive.
During the week of May 10, he drove to the Montreal suburb of Longueuil to pick up his daughter after her mother had to leave the country for a family emergency. There, he said he limited his contacts to the 4-year-old and his brother, who had been caring for her.
On his way back, he stopped in the city of Trois-Rivières to meet with two fellow physicians for a discussion about the pandemic and possible future work in Quebec. A private investigator hired by Mr. Ngola’s lawyer said the meeting took place in a local clinic for about 20 minutes.
SarahRose
Werner
Reply to @Monsieur Rioux: Serious accusations - let alone legal charges - should never be based on assumptions.
David Amos
Reply to @Graham
MacNab: Methinks your heroes in the RCMP cannot deny that over a year ago
I made Higgy et al well aware that the Private Eye and i have old
business from way back when he was the boss of IMET Obviously that was
long before he took this latest gig on behalf of a traveling doctor
N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-19-cases-campbellton-region-1.5608069
N.B. COVID-19 roundup: 2 employees at Campbellton hospital test positive
There are 29 active cases of the respiratory illness in New Brunswick
· CBC News · Posted: Jun 11, 2020 4:28 PM AT |
Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, has said there will be more cases of COVID-19 in the future and residents need to remain vigilant. (Government of New Brunswick)
The province will extend its state of emergency for another two weeks after Public Health announced two new cases of COVID-19 in the Campbellton region Thursday.
The new cases are two employees at the Campbellton Regional Hospital. One person is in their 30s and the other is in their 40s.
"All of the stakeholders at the Campbellton Regional Hospital are mobilized to ensure that everything is in place to provide quality care and ensure the safety of patients and staff," said Gilles Lanteigne, chief executive officer of Vitalité Health Network.
"Our processes are in place, our staff are trained and have the personal protective equipment they need to do their jobs. I am confident that we will get through these difficult times."
Three people have recovered from COVID-19 in the Campbellton region, keeping the total number of active cases in New Brunswick at 29.
Since March, there has been 153 cases of COVID-19 in the province, including one death.
Two staff members at the Campbellton Regional Hospital have been diagnosed with COVID-19. (Shane Fowler/CBC)
"This is an evolving situation at the Campbellton Regional Hospital and everyone must watch for symptoms since COVID-19 is going to be with us for a long time," said Dr. Jennifer Russell, chief medical officer of health.
As of Thursday, 35,753 tests have been conducted for the respiratory virus.
Red Cross tries to help seniors feel less isolated
The Red Cross is starting a program to help seniors feel less isolated during the COVID-19 outbreak.The Friendly Calls program will see isolated seniors matched with volunteers from the Red Cross.
Volunteers will regularly call seniors to check in and talk. The goal is to reduce feelings of isolation in a group that is particularly at risk of COVID-19 and who might already have felt isolated.
"It's just someone to talk to for those folks who have no one to talk to," said Bill Lawlor, provincial director of the Red Cross.
"They don't have family around, at least in the Atlantic provinces. Or they don't have family at all. No one to provide that type of support."
Seniors or their families can call the Red Cross and go through a short introductory interview to make sure they're a good fit for the program.
After that, seniors are matched with a volunteer.
"We find a volunteer who can meet the schedule, try to see if we can meet some similar personality traits as much as possible, and then we'll give it a trial run," said Lawlor.
"If it continues to work well then they'll just carry on … if not, that's ok. We can switch out."
Provincial Red Cross director Bill Lawlor said the new Red Cross program will help seniors feel less isolated during the COVID-19 pandemic. (Shane Fowler/CBC)
While the goal of the program is to ease feelings of isolation, Lawlor said similar programs in the past have helped in other ways, such as detecting early stages of memory loss.
"In the course of a conversation, you can start to pick up things that might suggest that someone is not feeling well, but they haven't made an appointment with their physician," said Lawlor.
Lawlor doesn't have concrete numbers for how many volunteers are needed but is urging anyone interested to call the Red Cross.
He also urges family and friends to talk to seniors about joining the program, particularly those who are shy
"There's those folks who could really benefit from this interaction who you know they won't call," said Lawlor.
"They don't feel they will benefit from it even though clearly they could."
New Brunswickers encouraged to renew licences
The province is urging people to renew licences, registrations, certificates and permits that had their expiration dates extended until the end of June due to the COVID-19 pandemic.Waiting until the end of June could cause delays, particularly for driver's licences, which take two weeks to process and be mailed out.
The province said Service New Brunswick has been increasing the number of services it offers online and through Teleservices, especially for some of its most requested renewals, such as driver's licences.
"Online and Teleservices are the most accessible, safe and convenient service methods," said Service New Brunswick Minister Sherry Wilson in a news release
"Based upon the significant increase in these methods, we believe New Brunswickers are embracing them."
Twelve centres offer in-person services, by appointment only, for things that cannot be completed online or through Teleservices.
What to do if you have symptoms
People concerned they might have COVID-19 can take a self-assessment on the government website at gnb.ca.Public Health says symptoms shown by people with COVID-19 have included: a fever above 38 C, a new cough or worsening chronic cough, sore throat, runny nose, headache, new onset of fatigue, new onset of muscle pain, diarrhea, loss of sense of taste or smell, and difficulty breathing. In children, symptoms have also included purple markings on the fingers and toes.
People with two of those symptoms are asked to:
- Stay at home.
- Call Tele-Care 811 or their doctor.
- Describe symptoms and travel history.
- Follow instructions.
With files from Jordan Gill
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David Amos
Methinks as the stock market go down again all the MLAs, bureaucrats, unions and teachers etc regret allowig Higgy to put their money into a shared risk pension plan but at least my fellow taxpayers should be grateful that we no longer have to make for their losses like Victor Boudreau did with his budget in 2009 N'esy Pas?
David Peters
Reply to @David Amos:
What's with NB Power sending so many ppl home at Pt Lepreau and Coleson Cove? Warehousing patronage appointments all of a sudden has become unsafe?
David Amos
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Methinks the RCMP and their Fed bosses are beginning to figure out that Higgy cannot corner a virus and better than he can herd the cats in the legislature notwithstanding the fact that Cardy is now willing to share his butter tarts with anyone except Bruce Northrup N'esy Pas?
Terry Tibbs
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Reply to @David Amos:
We shut our entire economy down, lost all of our jobs and put ourselves in astronomical amounts of debt for a “disease” that kills less people than daily life does.
It's past time to get back to normal and let the cards fall as they might.
David Amos
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Methinks the RCMP and Higgy et al will enjoy their email tomorrow N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
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Reply to @David Amos: Methinks they've been blocked from you for many many years. No one cares.
David Amos
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Methinks a critic who does not obey the rules of this forum and have the sand to use a real name is even more annoying N'esy Pas?
Tony Mcalbey
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Reply to @David Amos: big time annoying
David Amos
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Methinks Higgy is beginning to figure out that he cannot corner a virus and better than he can herd the cats in the legislature notwithstanding the fact that Cardy is now willing to share his butter tarts with anyone N'esy Pas?
Joe Doe
Cleaning up the trash
Roy Kirk
How do his private investigators know that they identified all of his contacts in Quebec? What incentive did he have to identify every contact. Could he even remember every contact? And even if this is accurate, how does it excuse his failure to isolate after his trip?
David Amos
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Reply to @Roy Kirk: Methinks as we watch the stock market nosedive again you can bet thin Canadian dimes to fat Yankee Petrodollars that today I called the former RCMP BOSS OF IMET who is the special investigator in this matter and the doctor's lawyer and asked them some tough questions before I sent them and Higgy et al another email N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Roy Kirk: Methinks as we watch the stock market nosedive again you can bet thin Canadian dimes to fat Yankee Petrodollars that today I called the former RCMP BOSS OF IMET who is the special investigator in this matter and the doctor's lawyer and asked them some tough questions before I sent them and Higgy et al another email N'esy Pas?
June Arnott
Hang in there CAmpbelton , New Brunswickers Do care.
David Amos
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Reply to @June Arnott: Methinks if you had read another article or two about what going on up north you would understand that it would not be wise to bet the farm on your opinion N'esy Pas?
Reply to @June Arnott: Methinks if you had read another article or two about what going on up north you would understand that it would not be wise to bet the farm on your opinion N'esy Pas?
David Amos
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Methinks Higgy is beginning to figure out that he cannot corner a virus and better than he can herd the cats in the legislature notwithstanding the fact that Cardy is now willing to share his butter tarts with anyone N'esy Pas?
Joe Doe
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Reply to @David Amos: N’est-ce pas offensive to NB citizen. So annoying.
David Amos
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Reply to @Joe Doe: Methinks a critic who does not obey the rules of this forum and have the sand to use a real name is eve more annoying N'esy Pas?
Albert Wade
Flew to Florida earlier in the week. Just back in NB, what's this about a border closure.
David Amos
Reply to @Albert Wade: Exactly
Joe Doe
Reply to @David Amos: yes. Great point. It begins.
Peter Smith
Decreasing, n'est pas? Erasing is fun.
David Amos
Reply to @Peter Smith: So you say
Joe Doe
Reply to @David Amos: so I do.
David Amos
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Reply to @Joe Doe: You changed names again I see but you smell the same
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Nope I'm still here but your fan club is growing. You are such a mo r on.
Glen Roberts
Guess the border being closed is not really working ...even with your new authoritarian government...
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Terry Tibbs:
Really? The truth is offensive now?
Really? The truth is offensive now?
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Truth hurts
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Glen Roberts:
Well you see Glen, you close the border, then you invent reasons to let a select few in, than your buddy down the street needs TFWs, so you let them in too, so finally you end up with a border that is closed to only the law abiding taxpayers, but no one else.
David Amos
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Methinks Higgy is beginning to figure out that he cannot corner a virus and better than he can herd the cats in the legislature notwithstanding the fact that Cardy is now willing to share his butter tarts with anyone N'esy Pas?
Tony Mcalbey
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Reply to @David Amos: Higgy can’t deny that
Reply to @David Amos: Higgy can’t deny that
David Amos
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Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: My My Methinks its too bad so sad that so many nasty words go "Poof" before I can read them N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: My My Methinks its too bad so sad that so many nasty words go "Poof" before I can read them N'esy Pas?
Peter Smith
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Reply to @David Amos: Your constant N'esy Pas is offensive.
Reply to @David Amos: Your constant N'esy Pas is offensive.
David Amos
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Reply to @Peter Smith: Methinks you forgot to ask me if i cared what you think of me N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Peter Smith: Methinks you forgot to ask me if i cared what you think of me N'esy Pas?
Peter Smith
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Reply to @David Amos: I didn't care what you think. Just wanted you to know that you are offensive.
Reply to @David Amos: I didn't care what you think. Just wanted you to know that you are offensive.
Ray Oliver
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Reply to @David Amos: Methinks you've got a real good idea on what I think of you by now EH. You are irrelevant in all areas of life. My guess is it's always been that way
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks you've got a real good idea on what I think of you by now EH. You are irrelevant in all areas of life. My guess is it's always been that way
Peter Smith
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Reply to @David Amos:And I truly don't care if you care. Most people with Axis 2 disorders don't.
Reply to @David Amos:And I truly don't care if you care. Most people with Axis 2 disorders don't.
Ray Oliver
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Reply to @David Amos: I'm so glad you have spell check using your phone. Your grammar on your blog is barely literate. Shows your actual level of intelligence.
Reply to @David Amos: I'm so glad you have spell check using your phone. Your grammar on your blog is barely literate. Shows your actual level of intelligence.
David Amos
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Reply to @Peter Smith: Methinks its not nice to make fun of Axis 2 disorders Hence you must be a Higgy supporter just like your buddy Oliver N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
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Reply to @David Amos: Nice? Your behavior on here to pester people has gotten you your own taste of it. It's not nice of me at all. Trust that it's fun though LOL!!
Johnny Almar
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But the good doctor wants an apology. He’s a victim. : /
Ian Scott
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Reply to @Johnny Almar: He could well be. I doubt the 2 current workers got it from him. So the timelines, patient, and family exposure are key. No one knows what Momma's status is as she is out of country. Cross border traffic is perilous given know one seems to know what the close by Quebec communities that are supplying Campbeltown workers are doing.
Reply to @Johnny Almar: He could well be. I doubt the 2 current workers got it from him. So the timelines, patient, and family exposure are key. No one knows what Momma's status is as she is out of country. Cross border traffic is perilous given know one seems to know what the close by Quebec communities that are supplying Campbeltown workers are doing.
David Amos
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Reply to @Johnny Almar: Methinks its high time that your buddy Higgy suggests that you went "Poof: again N'esy Pas?
SarahRose Werner
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Reply to @Ian Scott: If the good doctor had nothing to hide, why didn't he come clean and tell the border officials that he'd been in Quebec for personal reasons? If they'd said he had to self-isolate and he didn't think he had to, he could have continued on home, called public health for clarification and then *done what public health told him to do.* If he'd done that, he would have been covered no matter whether new cases appeared or not. He's in a bad position right now because he got caught lying. He's a victim, all right - of his own poor judgement and dishonesty.
Reply to @Ian Scott: If the good doctor had nothing to hide, why didn't he come clean and tell the border officials that he'd been in Quebec for personal reasons? If they'd said he had to self-isolate and he didn't think he had to, he could have continued on home, called public health for clarification and then *done what public health told him to do.* If he'd done that, he would have been covered no matter whether new cases appeared or not. He's in a bad position right now because he got caught lying. He's a victim, all right - of his own poor judgement and dishonesty.
Terry Tibbs
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I'm just waiting for the folks from Quebec, descending on NB like locusts, littering the highways with their broken campers (because the campers haven't moved for 50 weeks, or last summer), and not giving a tinkers fart for all Higgs' rules. Shoulds be exciting!