David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos @alllibertynews and 49 others
Methinks Karen McGrath should ask her people in Horizon Health to show her my file then ask why they want the RCMP to arrest me AGAIN N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/06/overworked-underpaid-and-at-breaking.html
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/home-care-shortage-new-brunswick-dorothy-shephard-social-development-1.5596605
Pandemic pressure on home care exposes rift between Social Development, hospitals
Minister says hospitals have 'abdicated' responsibility but hospitals disagree, call for structural change
· CBC News · Posted: Jun 05, 2020 6:00 AM AT
Social Development Minister Dorothy Shephard says better collaboration between the regional health authorities and the Dept. of Social Development is needed to ensure people are not released from hospital without adequate supports. (Ed Hunter/CBC)
Social Development Minister Dorothy Shephard says the pandemic has inflamed a pre-existing problem that impacts home care across the province: a lack of co-ordination between her department and the regional health authorities that run our hospitals.
"There might be people that cringe when I say this, but the fact is that that lack of collaboration in ensuring that…services are in place before they send someone home is often abdicated," Shephard said.
In a series this week, CBC News reported on a Moncton man whose sister has been hospitalized twice in the past month because there wasn't a home care worker available to visit her daily to make sure she was taking her medication.
Paul Ouellet's sister, Lorette, has schizophrenia and without care, she quickly spiraled into psychosis.
- Advocate for mentally ill says shortage of home-care workers landed sister in hospital - twice
- Overworked, underpaid and at the breaking point: home care worker calls for government aid
"That service allows them to remain in their place of residence and therefore prevent numerous hospital stays," he wrote in the letter.
Shephard hopes that with daycares re-opening, and a $500 per month top-up available to home care workers the situation will improve, but said the heart of the problem is a lack of collaboration with the hospitals.
Adequate home care 'major challenge'
When asked about Shephard's comments that the health authorities are abdicating their responsibilities, Vitalité President and CEO Gilles Lanteigne said "obviously I cannot be in agreement with that."He does however agree that adequate home care has been "an ongoing challenge and a major concern."
Gilles Lanteigne, president and CEO of Vitalité Health Network, agrees that structural changes are needed to allow health authorities and government departments to better care for patients. (Radio-Canada)
While people like Paul Ouellet's sister are forced to go to hospital because care isn't available, Lanteigne said people end up staying in hospitals for much longer than is necessary because there is no home care available when they are ready to leave.
While hospitals are under the control of the regional health authorities, home care and long term care are the responsibility of the Dept. of Social Development.
Lanteigne said crowded hospitals are not shirking their responsibilities by sending people who need "minimal support" home before home care is available. Rather, he said, staff are forced to make tough choices when there is someone coming in with an emergency such as a heart attack and they need to free up a bed.
"If we don't have alternatives for people to go back in their communities quickly, and we have someone coming at the emergency room…we're not abdicating. Quite the contrary. We're doing what we need to do."
'Fractured system' needs structural change
Karen McGrath, president and CEO of the Horizon Health Authority, has been asking for structural change in New Brunswick for more that two years.She said New Brunswick is the only jurisdiction in Canada where home care and long term care aren't provided by the health department.
Karen McGrath, President and CEO of Horizon Health, says New Brunswick's health care system is "fractured" and home care and long term care must become the responsibility of the health authorities. (Vitalite Health Network/Facebook)
McGrath describes the current structure, in which the responsibilities are split, as "not optimal."
"Unfortunately that group of individuals who do require support in the community have a very fractured system as they move from hospital into community support or long term care."
There are many examples, according to McGrath, of problems that arise as a result of the structure in New Brunswick.
"I have very frustrated staff who spend long hours trying to get hold of assessors in Social Development…to come in and do assessments. Very frustrated physicians in our emergency rooms who can't get hold of Social Development when they have somebody sitting in an emergency room whose main issue is housing."
Lanteigne has proposed a system called "integrated discharge planning" that he believes would help New Brunswick departments and the health authorities work together.
"The challenge in New Brunswick is that we have to work with many silos and the silos are making it such that the process, in order to discharge patients, is very long, very slow and it creates a backlog in the hospitals.
It's something Ouellet has also raised.
Paul Ouellet, 69, has been caring for his sister Lorette, 65, for the past 40 years. He says the government must find a way to ensure people who require regular home support continue to receive those services during the pandemic. (Vanessa Blanch/CBC)
In a July, 2019 letter to Shephard, he said "bridging" was needed between Dept. of Social Development and health authority staff.
Ouellet also called for every case manager in the Dept. of Social Development to act as a "watchdog" for their clients.
Lanteigne believes the changes need to go even farther.
"We're beyond trying to integrate the services, we need to integrate the structures," he said.
Status quo not acceptable
Shephard is calling for immediate change."I am not going to accept that we cannot collaborate in a more progressive and streamlined way," she said.
We have to adapt the structures accordingly and make a system that is fully integrated and fully accountable- Gilles Lanteigne, Vitalité Health Authority
Lanteigne wants the same thing, and said information will only be shared effectively between health authorities and government departments if the walls between departments finally come down, and technology that spans departments is introduced.
"We have to adapt the structures accordingly and make a system that is fully integrated and fully accountable," Lanteigne said.
Lessons learned from COVID-19
McGrath hopes the pressure that's recently been put on the health care system will lead to timely change."Hopefully the pandemic will shine a light — it's certainly shining a light on long term care in Canada and the provision of service for our older adults. And so hopefully those issues will remain in the forefront."
Lanteigne is confident the health authorities can work with Shephard to transform and modernize the health care system so patients no longer find themselves "stuck" between two departments.
"We're all losing efficiency here. We're fully ready to collaborate."
Information Morning - Moncton
Pressures on home care workers in highlights a need for better cooperation between government departments
29 Comments
David Amos
Methinks Gilles Lanteigne must know by now that under a doctor's directions I visited one of his emergency rooms again over a week ago and that I must continue to pay cash for his health care services. At the very least he must recall my conversation months ago with a lady working within his office as the CEO Vitalité Health Network (She called me back after I left Lanteigne a voicemail) Hence before Lanteigne quits his fancy job he really should ask Higgy et al why there is still a "Stay" on my Medicare Card N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Methinks Karen
McGrath should ask her people in Horizon Health to show her my file then
ask why they want the RCMP to arrest me AGAIN N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Methinks Paul Ouellet should reconsider the conversation he and I had this week N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Youd be an expert in that field however you're in her shoes not his in that predicament nesy pas
Terry Tibbs
And in today's news: a handful of political appointees have decided to play shell and pea games with the tax money collected from NBers.
(and I'm wondering how this is ANY different from what we have seen for the past year, or so, from these very same clowns)
Meanwhile, the NB Minister of Health is still "missing in action", maybe he is out looking for butter tarts?
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks Higgy ate all the butter tarts this week N'esy Pas?
Nicolas Krinis
Just change to Vitality logo and all will be well. Instead of announcing a measure, why not report on it when it's half way to completion?
Johnny Almar
Reply to @Nicolas Krinis: Duality of services is a waste of money.
David Amos
Reply to @Johnny Almar: Say Hey to Higgy and your buddies in the PANB for me will ya?
http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2017/05/yo-catherine-latimer-i-just-called-you.html?m=0
Wednesday, 3 May 2017
Yo Catherine Latimer I just called you and CBC and left messages say Hey to Dominic Leblanc, Jody Wilson Raybould and their pals in the RCMP for me will ya?
From: Ministerial Correspondence Unit - Justice Canada mcu@justice.gc.ca
Date: Thu, 4 May 2017 18:11:51 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Well after I noticed CBC and the Province of Nova Scotia peeking at my work at least CBC called me back even if it was with an anonymous number just like the RCMP always do
To: David Amos motorcyclemaniac333@gmail.com
Thank you for writing to the Honourable Jody Wilson-Raybould, Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada.
Due to the significant increase in the volume of correspondence addressed to the Minister, please note that there may be a delay in processing your email. Rest assured that your message will be carefully reviewed.
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Merci d'avoir écrit à l'honorable Jody Wilson-Raybould, ministre de la justice et procureur général du Canada.
En raison d'une augmentation importante du volume de la correspondance adressée à la ministre, veuillez prendre note qu'il pourrait y avoir un retard dans le traitement de votre courriel. Nous tenons à vous assurer que votre message sera lu avec soin.
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From: Premier PREMIER@novascotia.ca
Date: Thu, 4 May 2017 18:12:29 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Well after I noticed CBC and the Province of Nova Scotia peeking at my work at least CBC called me back even if it was with an anonymous number just like the RCMP always do
To: David Amos motorcyclemaniac333@gmail.com
Thank you for your email to Premier McNeil.
This is an automatic confirmation your email has been received.
Warmest Regards,
Premier's Correspondence Unit
http://qslspolitics.blogspot.ca/2008/07/feds-institutionalize-determined-nb.html
Feds institutionalize determined NB whistleblower
DAVID AMOS PICKED UP BY THE R.C.M.P.???
Charles LeBlanc's Other blog
July 8th, 2008
I don't know if this is a joke?
I'm not a David Amos fan but this email was sent to me last week.
I wonder what happen there???
Full Article
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Charles, David Amos had been picked up by the RCMP, upon false accusations, and put into the Chalmers Hospital.
This is a fate that is looming at the horizon for anybody who does not put up with the corruption in this country and especially in "the place to be". The dictators are running a tight ship, and they dont like it, when someone points out to them, that underneath that picturesque veneer is a big mess hidden.
Yesterday it was me and many others, today it is David, and tomorrow it can be You, and me again. Lets put petty bickering aside, and speak out against the real foe. Short before the mighty sowjet empire crumbled and fell, they used the same tactics, putting opponents into loonybins, people who did not appreciate their benevolent rulership, must be something wrong with their head. Think about it.
Werner Bock
506 756 8687
16 comments:
- Danny Boy
Thanx for defending me in chucky's blog.
And Thanx for blogging about my false imprisoment once again but this time it was the corrupt smiling bastards in my native land that did it to me. However I don't it is going to work out to well for them in the end than to one honest Doctor, a host of damned decent friends, one very Honourable Farmer friend, Werner Bock and some newfound blogger friends around the world.
The worm always turns it just that the bastard is very slow and one must be patient and keep your faith in mankind. The fact that Werner and you exist in theis wonderful old world forever proves to me thank not everyone is an evil bastard or a chickenshit.
Whereas The nasty French bastard Chucky leblanc is blogging about me once again and yet still blocking me as usual I will post my response to his comments about me with one word. BULLSHIT.
How was that for brief and to the point?
I will lay odds his latest blog about will go "poof" in cyberspace in short order so I made a point of saving as i ususally do and them emailing it to some of his political cronies for my benefit not theirs.
Monday, July 07, 2008
DAVID AMOS PICKED UP BY THE R.C.M.P.???
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I don't know if this is a joke?
I'm not a David Amos fan but this email was sent to me last week.
I wonder what happen there???
hello Charles!
Please keep me updated to what is happening inthe pictureprovinces capital and the forgotten hinterlands.
I like to make more comments, but it is to frustrating for me, a cyberspace dummy, to see to many labourosly written letters, getting lost in said realm
Charles, David Amos had been picked up by the RCMP, upon false accusations, and put into the Chalmers Hospital.
This is a fate that is looming at the horizont for anybody who does not put up with the corruption in this country and especially in " the place to be ". The dictators are running a tide ship, and they dont like it, when someone points out to them, that
underneath that picturesque veneer is a big mess hidden.
Yesterday it was me and many others, today it is David, and tomorrow it can be You, and me again. Lets put petty bickering aside, and speak out against the real foe. Short before the mighty sowjet empire crumbled and fell, they used the same tactics, putting opponents into loonybins, people who did not appriciate their benevolent rulership, must be something wrong with their head. Tink about it.
Werner Bock
506 756 8687
posted by Charles LeBlanc @ 3:04:00 PM 13 Comments
13 Comments:
At 5:29 PM, July 07, 2008 , Anonymous said...
I think the Guy is harmless. He May be off on another track somewhat but have seen worse like the sociopaths that work in Goverment and Police!
Do You think the Cows could have conspired to do it?
At 5:32 PM, July 07, 2008 , mikel said...
Why not call the number and find out Charles? You may not be a 'fan', but you two have a lot in common. There was a post at Spinks last night that could be him, it was posted anonymously, but he's the only guy who calls people 'boy'.
You are always offering conspiracy stories about people out to get you, his actually make even more sense as he keeps evidence and talks about using the court system-even runs for parliament. By that token he's more 'dangerous' than you, and doesn't have a popular blog to keep him in the limelight enough to protect him.
Call the Chalmers and ask to speak with him and see what happens...
At 5:57 PM, July 07, 2008 , Charles LeBlanc said...
Let the media use their contact to find out if this is true?
Not this blogger!!!!
I was sent an email and I blogged the issue.
My job is done!!!!
At 9:56 PM, July 07, 2008 , mikel said...
The media is certainly not going to cover it, you are far better known and like you say, the media wouldn't cover your arrest at all. Fighting for people's rights is never 'done'. There are some people who did work for residential tenants acts and about YOUR ban. Ironically Mr. Amos' last blog was a link to www.charlesin thehouse.com asking why YOU got all the attention.
I seem to recall lots of blogs with pictures about the clown who was banned, but maybe past posters are right, and its only people who are nice to you that get any attention. Let's just hope people don't have the same attitude if it does happen that YOU get arrested. Whether you like somebody or not is irrelevant.
I don't know what Mr. Amos' story is and have never been able to follow it, but we certainly know from Charles' treatment and Bonnie O'dea's case that just about anything is possible.
At 10:28 PM, July 07, 2008 , Charles LeBlanc said...
Listen Mike!!!
You cannot communicate with David!!!
It's an impossible task!!!!
I email him for an interview and he sent my request to everyone on his list.
What are his issues?
I don't know!!!!
Dan F tried to helped him and he turned against the guy.
Understand? You cannot do a story on a guy if he or she don't answer.
He sent me a picture and I blogged it. He quickly turned against me for using the picture.
I deleted the blog and pic. Tout fini!!!
Understand Mike?
But you're right on one issue?
The Government could quickly get rid of the guy and nobody will ever know?
Scary eh?
He could end up like an Ashley Smith?
If he gets out? I'm sure we'll hear lots of story and I'm gonna get blasted for blogging his arrest.
See Mike? You can't win for trying?
Can't blame the media either.
C'est la vie!!!
Stay tuned!!
At 1:07 AM, July 08, 2008 , Anonymous said...
He is a sick man. Hope he's getting some much-needed treatment!
At 6:38 AM, July 08, 2008 , Dan F said...
"Mr. Amos' story is and have never been able to follow it"
David Amos: NB-NWO whistleblower Part 4
"When the Irving idiot Scotty Baby Agnew had the RCMP try to arrest me and have Google delete my blog about them and the nasty French Bastard Chucky Leblanc and then had Yahoo kill two of my email accounts, I laughed at them all and proved to the Irvings' lawyer and the MP Jim Prentice in a wink of an eye that I was far from done with them."
"Dan F tried to helped him and he turned against the guy."
Deservedly so - too many bloggers shoot their mouth off with nothing but ignorance or a corrupt agenda behind their words.
The longer the mindless Canadian and American populace let the Stasi lapdogs of the fiat-debt thieves run rampant over our land, the more repressive action you'll see against independent media.
At least everybody with a clue knows that Main $tream Media is fully co-opted, they'd print their newspapers with uranium-laced ink if their owners gave the command.
At 8:39 AM, July 08, 2008 , mikel said...
Charles, don't mean to be contrary but virtually everything you've said about him has been said numerous times HERE about YOU. On numerous issues people have posted saying 'you just can't reason with the guy'. I don't particularly like being called 'mikey boy' and was often a target of Mr. Amos' criticism myself.
And like I said, if YOU were arrested there are lots who would say exactly the same thing as the above-'he needs help, I hope he gets it' and then move on.
The issue is not the PERSON, in order to raise the ire of lawyers, police, etc., you HAVE to be a bit of a malcontent. Most of us would just cry in our coffee and try to move on. The only reason Mr. Amos (and you I dare say) continue to tilt at windmills is BECAUSE you are belligerent, somewhat cantankerous SOB's.
I've heard Mr. Amos' called crazy, but then I've also heard YOU called crazy by a lot more people. We don't know the issue behind this, perhaps he IS crazy and maybe he was throwing rocks through people's windows.
You SHOULD blame the media, how many people tell YOU that they don't blame the media for ignoring all your letters? It's not pleasant is it? All it takes is a phone call to the DECH or the police station. Can you honestly say that if you get hauled away you wouldn't want people to put at least SOME effort into helping you? Will people just be going over to Spinks blog and saying 'well, he didn't give a rats ass about David Amos so why should we care about him?' I seem to recall a lot of effort in talking to Bonnie O'dea-was it just because she was nice to you and Mr. Amos wasn't? What the hell is the point of all that buddhist bullshit you keep posting when you don't even seem to pay attention to it. Sorry guy, don't mean to be belligerent, but being a blogger sometimes means rising above pettiness. Otherwise, it makes perfect sense that Irving's press ignores you-after all, you haven't been very 'nice' to them (and have been even more cantakerous towards them than Mr. Amos has been to you).
At 9:00 AM, July 08, 2008 , Anonymous said...
Charles can be annoying. Amos is crazy and hopefully he'll get the help he needs in hospital.
At 11:05 AM, July 08, 2008 , just cruisin' through said...
mikel, why don't YOU actually do something if you're so interested. Charles at least blogged it. What have YOU done?
At 12:26 PM, July 08, 2008 , Anonymous said...
It is simply NOT TRUE, as Mikel suggests, that a person can be commited to a mental health facility on the basis of a phone call to hospital or police. That may have been true in 1950, but not today! If Mr. Amos has been hospitalized, it's on the basis of reliable evidence.
btw, I've had dealings with Mr. Amos. He very sincerely believes not only that all lawyers and all politicians and all cops and all civil servants are corrupt, but also that there is a massive conspiracy against him, involving all these people, and the CIA, which he belives is actively trying to kill him, and the media, and Charles, and many many many others. I'm just saying...
At 1:53 PM, July 08, 2008 , Charles LeBlanc said...
Mike...Mike...Mike???
Look what Dan F posted?
He blames me for the deleting of his yahoo account.
I wonder why?
I just send his emails to my soam box. < Just like many people do with mine >
If I had a chance to know his concerns?
I would be behind him but I don't!
I did the guy one favor?
I blogged the issue so people would know he's been picked up by the R.C.M.P.!
Will David Amos be grateful for what I did?
Of course not!!!
Anyone who tried to help the guy? He turns against them!!!!
C'est la vie!!!
But lets wait and see what's going to happen?
The number is on the blog Mike. Call the guy who sent me the email.
At 1:59 PM, July 08, 2008 , Charles LeBlanc said...
One more thing Mike?
If I'm ever picked up by the Police and sent to a mental ward?
I assigned three people to watch over my situation very closely.
In this line of business? You got to be prepare.
Especially when you go against the Irvings, the government and the Police!!!!
Everything is prepared!!!!
YEA RIGHT TELL ANOTHER ONE CHUCKY BABY. you know THREE HONEST PEOPLE WHO WILL BACK UP YOUR NONSENSE??? NEED I SAY BULLSHIT ONCE AGAIN???
FYI FOURTEEN HONEST MEN HAVE MY DURABLE POWER OF ATTORNEY. i TRUST EACH OF THEM WITH MY LIFE AND THE FUTURE OF MY SEED. EACH AND EVERYONE OF THEM ARE DAMNED DECENT MEN WITH FINE FAMILIES WHO LOVE ME AS WIERD OLD UNCLE DAVE. THEY ARE ALL SEPTS TO MY CLAN IF YOU MAMA WISHES TO EXPLAIN TO YOU WHAT THAT IS SOMETIME.
VERITAS VINCIT
David Raymond Amos - I taught I did ya a favor by letting the people know you were picked up?
Well. I guess not!!!
That's no problem! I can delete the blog like nothing happen.
You're welcome to write your views on what happen but bad language just won't do it!!!
C'est la vie!!! - Everybody and his dog knows you ain't no friend of mine Chucky Baby. You
have never done me one favour yet but you have certainly slander me
alot. I see that some of you friends are starting to see the real you
and your bullshit don't fly anymore EH?
Too Bad So Sad. Live by the sword die by the sword as they say. I warned ya I was a hell of blogger when we first met in 2004 and gave you a computer Remember Frenchy? I just don't brag about it to the world tis all.
Tell your bullshitting buddy Mikey Baby Archibald that I never post Anon comments but there are a couple dudes in cyberspace that pretend to be me that do. Who knows one of them could be you. Correct?
You do a WCIE posting for from time to time in your name. N'est Pas? It ain't a big leap from there to pretending to be somebody else. Correct?
As you love to say LOL and STAY TUNED!!!
Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos - Do you want me to POOF the blog?
I got no problem with that!
:P
Now, I was the first guy to blog your issue.
It started a good debate. < AS you can tell? >
Now? Listen...You got it? Listen or I meant read!!!
Why don't you go to the blog and explain what happen? < in a nice way! >
But of course this would be too much to ask?
Your friend sent me an email telling me you were arrested by the Police < or picked up? >
I taught about it and blogged it!!!
That was very nice of me but if you continue to attack me the way you do?
Well, the next time you get picked up?
I won't blogged it and nobody will know?
You should tell your story or maybe we'll see ya in court and let the Irving's employees tell your story.
It's up to you?
P.S. I don't have to leave annoymous comments because I got enough already!!!
Stay tuned!!!!! - Need I say BULLSHIT once again Chucky Baby?
Danny Boy and Richy baby have integrity as for you Chucky you and your Fake Left friends in Fat Fred City don't even know what the word means.
You are so full yourself Chucky its unbeleivable Thus you must be made of bullshit N'est Pas?
I quite trying to post comments in your blog months. You know why as well as I It was the very same day you made your last blog about me go "Poof" Remember Frenchy?
Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos - Is this what they got you with?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25631432/
<...>
One of the doctors who came up with the protocol said it's the safest option out there and that it is used all over the country.
But many people said that the injection was news to them, and a top medical ethicist said it's a troubling precedent.
The drug is called Midazolam, which is better known as Versed. People who have had a colonoscopy have probably had a shot of the drug for the procedure.
"The drug has an amnesia effect, and we use that therapeutically because one of the nice ways to take care of the discomfort is to make people forget that they've had it," said biomedical ethics and law enforcement expert Dr. Steven Miles.
<...>
"I've talked to my colleagues around the country, and none of the people from the south to the north to the east to the west have ever heard about this kind of program, this kind of use where they basically force an injection upon an individual knowing nothing about his or her medical condition," said ACLU Director Hedy Weinberg. - Just wish to let ya know that someone from the Government of Canada search your name and ended up in my blog.
I can poof the blog if you want me too?
:P - BULLSHIT onnce again Frenchy
I repeat what planet are you from Chucky Baby? I gave you evidence of murder four years ago and gave Richy Baby the same stuff on Canada Day this year. I told you to give the stuff to Brad Green and you whimped out and attacked me and now Richy is playing dumb and won't give it to T.J. burke or his lawyer.
FYI Do what you wish with your god amned blog obviously I already saved it and posted in Danny boy's domain. You and yopur WCIEs have blocked me for years as your tagged teamed me with your Fake Left malice and yet you bastards feel free to allow corrupt cops and politicians to slander me in your blog as my family suffers through the trials of Job?
If there is ever a trial in Federal Court in Fat Fred City I will call you and Richy Baby and your Iron Horse of lawyer to testify about your maliciopus nonsense as we discuss hard copy of your blogs that I already saved long ago.
Say Hoka Hey to your little indian "Blogger General" and your buddies Scotty Baby agnew and his very nasty lawyer wife who is a bigtime buddy of your old pal Kelly Lamrock. Then them for me that I hope to to Cya'll in Court or Hell C'est la meme chose N'est Pas Frenchy?
Veritas Vincit
David Rayond Amos - At 1:59 PM, July 08, 2008 , Charles LeBlanc said...
One more thing Mike?
If I'm ever picked up by the Police and sent to a mental ward?
I assigned three people to watch over my situation very closely.
In this line of business? You got to be prepare.
Especially when you go against the Irvings, the government and the Police!!!!
Everything is prepared!!!!
At 12:30 AM, July 09, 2008 , Anonymous said...
there are people in need of the mental health services and if you fight against or speak out,you may be given these services against your will! It is a tool for those in power to use against the poor and uneducated!
At 5:10 PM, July 09, 2008 , Anonymous said...
Let's see...Mr Amostruly believes politicians, civil servants and police are corrupt and out to harm or kill him. Hmmmmm...sounds like a blogger I know. If Amos was really picked up and taken to the psyc ward you hadbetter watch your back Charlie. You could be next. Be afraid...be very afraid.
At 11:47 AM, July 13, 2008 , Anonymous said...
"You got to be prepare. Especially when you go against the Irvings, the government and the Police" Well Charels add a little Latin at the end of your rants and you start to sound a heck of a lot like Mr Amos.
Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos - Looks like covert Yankee Feds are worried about Canadian Feds versus mean old me today EH?.
BTW danny Boy I wish you would pick sides and quit being so buddy buddy with my nasty French enemy Chucky Baby Leblanc. You and Richy Baby can't sit on the fence and be friends to he and his pal T.J. Burke and mean old me at the same time.
FYI Richy Baby asked my advice recently about running for leader of the PC Party and I just shook my head at the nonsense of it all and suggested that he sprout some balls and give T.J. Burke the documents and CD I gave around his birthday just before the smiling bastardfs locked me up.
When I look on the web and see that Chucky Baby and the new MLA the ex cop from Fat Fred City Carl Urquart crossed paths in Harvey and are now great pals, I see Red and wanna call Wally Stiles again.
For the record it was Carl Urquart and his buddy Greggy Baby Thompson the MP and Minister (they share and office a couple hundred yards from where I was staying for the past year just outside of Fat fred City) that made the false allegatiions that allowed the RCMP to get me locked up in the looney bin for a bit. The doctors who got sucked in by the RCMP bullshit about me were.
Manoj Bhargava
Community Mental Health
65 Brunswick Street
Fredericton NB E3B 5G6
Psy 04-02883
Guadalajara 1987
(506)-453-2132
Zlatko Banic
69 Bliss Carman Drive Fredericton NB E3B 9P2
Psy 03-02785
Novi Sad 1981
(506)-460-1905
Dr.Jane V. Findlater
Everett Chalmers Hospital
PO Box 9000 Fredericton
NB E3B 5N5 EmM 75-01333
Dal 1974 (
506)-452-5058
(506)-452-5645
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Have a look at the malicous nonse Depupty Dog is spewing out about me lately methinks he is finally shitting bricks.
http://davidamos.blogspot.com/2006/04/just-dave.html
For the record whatever happened between me and Doctors was intensely private and Chucky Baby had no right to blog about it whatsoever particularly while I was locked and could not respond.
Reread what the nasty bastards said of me. Only you defended me. Small wonder why Chucky was begging me to comment or offering to make the blog go "poof" eh? No doubt the light dawned on the marble heads of Mikey Baby Archibald or his dumb Iron horse of a lawyer. N'est Pas?
What if I were truly nuts or suicidal as Chucky claimed? Could that bullshit have tipped me over the edge? For the record I have a strong feeling the nasty bastard that talked of dealing with me and of my fear of the CIA is none other than T.J. Burke but I can't prove it. That said I have had no dealings with the CIA whatsoever. It was the US Secert Service, the US Marshalls, the FBI, The RCMP, National Security and the Department of Homeland Security the US Treasury and a host of others whom i have fought tooth and nail with over the years. Not once did I cross paths with the CIA except if you count when I was dealing with the 911 Commission just before Paul Martin flew down to Washington and met with a couple of them right after they left the oval office early. Check history. Maybe I will show you the proof sometime but I have sent you lots already that you have done nothing with. The Obama and McCain file or the Elections Canada files were both timely and wicked yet you didn't say boo about them. How Come? The other day you were quick to point out that I slipped up and forgot to attach a sound file. Hows that for confusing?
As you justifiably tear Stevey Boy Harper and his many cohorts brand new arseholes with your emails and blogs rest assured Chucky Leblanc will never back you up if you find yourself in hot water. Never forget I am the dude with the big stick to pound on the public corruption with not him. Murder is still a Capital Crime and there is no statute of limitations. Correct?
Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos - http://gypsy-blog.blogspot.com/2008/09/back-from-vacation-biatch.html
Perhaps you should start watching Youtubes Gypsy I will be talking about you blogger hero Chucky Leblanc in short order.
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=DavidRaymondAmos
I will never forgive what he said about me as i was running for a seat in the 38th Parliament let alone all that he has said of me since then.
http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/07/feds-institutionalize-determined-nb.html
FYI as a double check I posted this comment in the blog above and one of mine as well
Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos - What planet are you people from?
On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Richard Harris injusticecoalition@hotmail.com wrote:
dave you in fredericton and would you give me a hand to put soon recoarding on yo utubs. can you give me a call 260-7960
From: David Amos david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
Subject: Re:
To: "Richard Harris" injusticecoalition@hotmail.com, "oldmaison@yahoo.com" oldmaison@yahoo.com, "Dan Fitzgerald" danf@danf.net, webo@xplornet.com, "danny.copp@fredericton.ca" danny.copp@fredericton.ca, "dan. bussieres" dan.bussieres@gnb.ca, "Harper.S@parl.gc.ca" Harper.S@parl.gc.ca, day.s@parl.gc.ca, "Duceppe. G" Duceppe.G@parl.gc.ca, "wally.stiles@gnb.ca" wally.stiles@gnb.ca
Date: Sunday, September 7, 2008, 4:20 PM
Why won't your buddy Chucky and his Fake Left friends help you?
I gave you the ticket to ride against the crooks on your birthday anyway and you did nothing with it as you just laughed at my family's troubles. Remember it was just before I got locked up for the weekend of July 4th and everybody and his dog had a lot of fun teasing me. Couldn't ya tell when we last met that I was really pissed off but obviously did nothing about it until my kids went back to the USA?
Furthermore I already helped you lots. I gave you the same documents and CD that I am showing in these Youtubes and told ya to give it to your MLA T.J. Burke and backed you up with many emails. I have no doubt you would get what you wanted in your concerns about money if you had the balls to do as I suggested. Instead I watch you and Chucky supporting the nasty bastards such as Carl Urqhart and you said to me that you wanted to run for leader of his god damned party? Incredible to say the least. Do you really think I would agree with such nonsense? Who the hell do you think is working against me just Santa Claus and the other fellas in red coats?
Anyone can see Chucky's and T.J. Burke's buddies in the RCMP who assaulted me on July 4th are harassing me in Fat Fred City and of how I have no respect for their severe lack of integrity. Why would i be different with anyone else? I did introduced you to one of the dearest things in life to me did I not? He is what is important not the games people play with me. As I said when I am ten years dead only he and his sisters will remember me and love me enough to visit my grave. Everybody else just wants to make a deal to their advantage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyVg5vwndSE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkdNTrHjpk8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMGvoUJDrCU&feature=email
Now T. J. Burke and his cohorts in Fat Fred City mean less than nothing to me. I am only hanging around Fat Fred City long enough to file some lawsuits I promised I would after the writ was finally dropped in the next election. then am offf and running and chasing the RCMP like hell. Hell I may even run for parliament somewhere else just for shits and giggles.
Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos - At least I got one response even if it did came from an ethical computer owned by a crooked lawyer.
Hell Dizzy Lizzy May ain't bothered to answer the Hard Copy of all the documents and CD that I sent her byway registered mail over a year ago. Check Youtube Timmy Baby.
I also noticed that your blogger buddy Chucky Leblanc claimed that your other buddy Jacky Boy Carr was filing a Human Rights complaint on behalf of rural folks that don't have a stab at high speed internet in "The Place To BE" ?
Well excuse me didn't Javky Boy's hero Little Bernie Lord promise that a long long time ago? But all these years later the Fat Cats and the welfare dudes in Fat Fred City have high speed wireless for free and rural folks are stuck with Xplornet at twice the rate and half the speed. Perhaps somebody should ask my friend Werner Bock his opinion about that sad fact. The high speed wireless line goes right though the middle of his farm but he cannot have access to it.
Didn't your Neo con buddies Kirk MacDonald and David Alward have a photo op giving the Barrett crooks in Woodstock a fat check for a cool million or so just before Bernie had the writ dropped in 2006? How come Jacky Boy Carr wasn't protesting the Human Rights of it all when he was running against and losing to that drunken lawyer from Chipman? I ran in that election too against the "Not So Good" Dr Ed Doherty while intervening in the Emera Pipeline matter remember? Or how about when Xplornet cancelled my email account through my farmer friend Werner Bock's account months after I had introduced him to Susan Butterfield? Ain't that interesting? Notice when the Town cops in Woodstock tried to run me out of town when I went up there to cross paths with the Barrett crooks amongst other things?
It certainly appears that everybody has Human Rights in "The Place to BE" excepting of course Werner Bock, my kids and I. Merely because arseholes such as Chucky Leblanc and you portray me as Public Enemy # 1 while others claim I am a pedophile who abuses my own Little Darlins?
Need I say that all you sneaky little snakes can lick each other's arses eat shit and die for all I care now Tiny Timmy. Insult me some more I will relish every word of it in court soon.
Here is a little proof that I am a man of my word.
From: Green Party of Canada Leader's Office leadersoffice@greenparty.ca
Date: 2008/10/16
Subject: Thank you / Merci Re: So I am public enemy #1 EH Tiny Timmy?
To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
Thank you for your email to the Green Party of Canada Leader's Office. We are currently receiving a very high number of emails. A response to your email may take longer than usual. We appreciate your understanding.
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Merci d'avoir contacté le bureau de la Chef du Parti Vert du Canada.
Nous recevons présentement un nombre important de courriel et notre de délai de réponse est donc plus long qu'en temps normal. Merci de votre compréhension, nous vous répondrons aussitôt que possible.
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From: David Amos david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
Date: Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 10:35 PM
Subject: So I am public enemy #1 EH Tiny Timmy?
To: tim4nm@gmail.com, Harper.S@parl.gc.ca, spinks08@hotmail.com, wally.stiles@gnb.ca, william.elliott@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, jacques_poitras@cbc.ca, kelly.lamrock@gnb.ca, ken.cook@fredericton.ca, Kathy.Alchorn@fredericton.ca, richard.dearden@gowlings.com, rick.miles@gnb.ca, alltrue@nl.rogers.com, fbinhct@leo.gov, forest@conservationcouncil.ca, "layton. j" Layton.J@parl.gc.ca, leader@greenparty.ca>
Cc: don-ketchum@coldwellbanker.ca, dwayne@hayesrealty.ca, keving.price@pcnb.org, Jeannot.VOLPE@gnb.ca, campaign@robertmacleod2008.ca, bruce.fitch@gnb.ca, info@votedebbiemccann.ca, nb.premier@gmail.com, premier@gnb.ca, David.ALWARD@gnb.ca, danf@danf.net, injusticecoalition@hotmail.com, webo@xplornet.com, oldmaison@yahoo.com
What part of that statement should I find funny arsehole?
Since you can't read before you write perhaps you should watch some Youtubes
BTW You really should have listened to the links in this email BEFORE you decided to tease me about my false imprisonment in Fat Fred City like your blogger hero Chucky Leblanc did while I was locked up. I have Human Rights too Timmy Baby.
Although the sneaky doctors were quick to let me out of the Looney Bin the instant I served a pile of documents upon them the matter is FAR from over. Everybody forgot my right to privacy as the crooks within the "Place to BE" failed to con the doctors into calling me mentally ill. Everybody clammed up about it as soon as I discovered Chucky and Danny Boy's blogs. Now months later you decide to tease me after your hero stevey boy Harper got another minor kick at the can?
Have you got a lawyer Timmy baby? Perhaps he/she should listen to the
the Yankee wiretap tapes within the links you admitted receiving as
you insulted me.
Whereas you and Chucky and Spinksy to name a few all block Free Speech
as I try to defend my family and myself while you arseholes make fun
of our plight. I will post this and the other emails you received
tonight in Danny Boy's blog about Chucky's blog about my false
imprisonment. Feel free to argue me in public right here Timmy Baby.
http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/07/feds-institutionalize-determined-nb.html
Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos
Methinks I will make a Youtube about you and Chucky Leblanc and all your strange bedfellows in Fat Fred City
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPkRu0dNPUc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga2phTOe9es
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyVg5vwndSE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkdNTrHjpk8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMGvoUJDrCU
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From: tim4nm@gmail.com
Date: Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: So you are a Harper man EH Tiny Timmy?
To: David Amos david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
I'm glad you liked that Dave. I would have enjoyed having my picture with Dion too if I knew sooner that he was coming. My source sent me a message that Harper was coming so off I went.
Nobody said no to me because they all know me or my family.
That photo op was sweet timing. Downside is I'm painted big time blue across Canada now.
Here in NM I'm trying to give everyone a shot but this woman running is ignoring me.
I called her yesterday to talk about her flyer and her campaign
manager called me back. I said thanks but I'll speak to her too. Gave my daytime phone and said call me tomorrow.
She calls during the day at home and leaves a message basically
blowing me off and that she's already talked to the mayor about stuff in the Village.
So what? Am I a piece of shit? I wanted to talk. Don't care about the mayor.
Not a good first impression.
Carr on the other hand has been friendly with me since I met him at
the village golf tournament.
Better first impression.
Now about you. Don't leave cryptic comments on the blog. My blog is to
appear a nice happy place but I can't have public enemy number 1 (you) leaving mysterious messages. Okay?
So where are you? Were you in jail or something I saw? You okay now?
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From: David Amos
Sender:
To: Me
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Cc: keving.price@pcnb.org
Cc: Jeannot.VOLPE@gnb.ca
Cc: campaign@robertmacleod2008.ca
Cc: bruce.fitch@gnb.ca
Cc: Charles LeBlanc
Cc: info@votedebbiemccann.ca
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Subject: So you are a Harper man EH Tiny Timmy?
Sent: Oct 16, 2008 8:32 PM
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From: David Amos david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
Date: Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 5:38 PM
Subject: If you wanna play Hard Ball so be it Call the RCMP and say
Hoka Hey to T.J. Burke
To: psquire@ctic.ca, t.j.burke@gnb.ca
Cc: corporate.communications@firstam.com, cgaska@firstam.com,
investor.relations@firstam.com, apeart@ctic.ca, debsmith@fnf.com,
dkmurphy@fnf.com
This ain't no game Mr. Squires. I am as serious as a heart attack.
http://www.archive.org/details/Part1WiretapTape143
http://www.archive.org/details/WiretapTape143
http://www.archive.org/details/PoliceSurveilanceWiretapTape139
Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos
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From: David Amos david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
Date: Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 9:57 PM
Subject: Methinks that your new blogger buddy Tiny Timmy should read before he writes EH Chucky Leblanc
To: don-ketchum@coldwellbanker.ca, dwayne@hayesrealty.ca, keving.price@pcnb.org, Jeannot.VOLPE@gnb.ca, campaign@robertmacleod2008.ca, bruce.fitch@gnb.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com, info@votedebbiemccann.ca, nb.premier@gmail.com, premier@gnb.ca, David.ALWARD@gnb.ca, danf@danf.net, injusticecoalition@hotmail.com, webo@xplornet.com
Cc: "Harper.S@parl.gc.ca" Harper.S@parl.gc.ca, "spinks08@hotmail.com" spinks08@hotmail.com, "wally.stiles@gnb.ca" wally.stiles@gnb.ca, "william.elliott@rcmp-grc.gc.ca" william.elliott@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, "layton. j" Layton.J@parl.gc.ca, jacques_poitras@cbc.ca, kelly.lamrock@gnb.ca, "ken.cook@fredericton.ca" ken.cook@fredericton.ca, "Kathy.Alchorn@fredericton.ca" Kathy.Alchorn@fredericton.ca, richard.dearden@gowlings.com, rick.miles@gnb.ca, Byron Prior alltrue@nl.rogers.com, "fbinhct@leo.gov" fbinhct@leo.gov, "forest@conservationcouncil.ca" forest@conservationcouncil.ca
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From: tim4nm@gmail.com
Date: Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: Remember me Don Ketchum and Dwayne Hayes? I am still
mad as hell a Colwell Bankers
To: David Amos david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
Dang David, I usually love this stuff but I'm having a hard enough
time focusing on my own crap right now.
I'll give it a shot because it's entertaining but forgive me if I
don't remember everything.
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/indigenous-leaders-new-brunswick-disappointed-following-chantel-moore-death-1.5600761
On MMIWG report anniversary, Indigenous leaders left grieving for Chantel Moore
First Nations leaders say it's time to change justice system for Indigenous peoples
· CBC News · Posted: Jun 05, 2020 6:49 PM AT
Chantel Moore, 26, was shot dead by police in New Brunswick early Thursday morning during a wellness check gone wrong. An officer says she threatened him with a knife before the shooting. (Chantel Moore/Facebook)
On the one-year anniversary of the final report of the National Inquiry into Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women and Girls, Chantel Moore, a 26-year-old Nuu-chah-nulth woman, was fatally shot by an Edmundston police officer during a wellness check early Thursday.
The police officer who is currently under investigation was allegedly attacked by Moore with a knife and "had no choice but to defend himself," said Edmundston police.
Moore was born in Tofino, B.C., in the Tla-o-qui-aht First Nation area on Vancouver Island. She had moved to New Brunswick after living in Port Alberni, B.C. to be closer to her mother and five-year-old daughter.
Brandy Stanovich, president of the Indigenous Women's Association of the Wabanaki Territories and board member of the Native Women's Association of Canada, expressed her disappointment in Canada's process of implementing the recommendations that emerged from the MMIWG inquiry.
Brandy Stanovich is the president of the Indigenous Women's Association of the Wabanaki Territories. (Facebook/ Brandy Stanovich)
"We're very disappointed and saddened by the government not responding to the 231 calls for justice of the national inquiry," Stanovich said. "We don't understand how a whole year could go by without a national action plan because that was there to address this problem."
Chief Ross Perley of Neqotkuk First Nation, a Wolastoqey community known as Tobique, also expressed his disappointment with the incident on the anniversary.
"Makes me feel disappointed that we had a year to come up with solutions to this problem," he said.
Perley, a father of four daughters, said Moore's death hits home for him.
"I have four young daughters that are growing up in a society that is discriminatory toward them," Perley said. "As the chief, I'm going to do whatever I can to fix that, so when they grow up they don't have to be fearful of law enforcement or the justice system."
Tobique First Nation Chief Ross Perley says he wants to see reform in the Canadian justice system. (Julianne Hazlewood/CBC)
Perley said the Wolastoqey nation has written a letter to the New Brunswick justice minister this morning, "hoping to work together to improve the system we have here in New Brunswick and the procedures and protocols police forces use when dealing with Indigenous peoples."
"They don't treat non-Indigenous citizens the same as they treat Indigenous citizens," Perley said of police forces. "That's the problem, and it's a problem across the county."
Officer apologizes for interview conduct
Ruth Levi, council member of Elsipogtog First Nation, said she felt "lots of anger" when she heard the news of Moore's death.Levi said her frustration only grew when she saw Insp. Steve Robinson of the Edmundston Police smirk when he declined comment on the amount of times Moore was shot.
"The smirk on his face was uncalled for, totally uncalled for and disrespectful," Levi said.
"I pray that his superiors see this. He does owe the family and the public at large, not just First Nations but the public, an explanation or an apology.
"I understand that my reaction to the camera has caused frustration and concern," he said in the statement. "I sincerely apologize if my reaction has been interpreted or perceived to be carelessness or lack of compassion. This is absolutely not the case. I have great sympathy with family, friends and the Aboriginal community."
Levi said, "New Brunswick has failed again."
"It doesn't matter where you're from, it doesn't matter what race," Levi said. "You do not deserve to die in the arms of a police officer with a gun that shot you."
Chantel Moore, 26, grew up on Vancouver Island but left recently to live in New Brunswick where she joined her mother and five-year-old daughter, Gracie. (Chantel Moore/Facebook)
"Is he fully trained, this man? The question comes to my mind," Levi said.
She said it's time to sit down with the province and discuss what Indigenous justice looks like in New Brunswick.
"We need to talk, we need action, this has to stop. No more," Levi said, calling for improved relations between First Nations and federal and provincial governments.
"It does not matter where Chantel Moore was from. What matters is she's an Aboriginal woman who was in fear of her life," Levi said.
Faith in police
Moore's boyfriend had called the police for a wellness check because she was being harassed after moving to Edmundston.Levi questioned whether, as an Indigenous woman, if she or other Indigenous women can safely rely on the police.
'You do not deserve to die in the arms of a police officer with a gun that shot you,' Elsipogtog First Nation council member Ruth Levi says. (Gail Harding/CBC)
"So when I live in fear, I'm not to call the police?" Levi questioned. "Do I go get a gun? Should I take matters into my own hands?
"Just sit back for a moment and imagine where I'd be right now. I wonder if that police officer is in the same place I would be. I don't think so."
Call for Indigenous investigator
Wolastoq Grand Council Chief Ron Tremblay said he wrote a letter to Edmundston Mayor Cyrille Simard, the New Brunswick Police Association and the Edmundston Police Department requesting an Indigenous person be part of the team investigating the shooting."We know a lot of times that if minorities are not a part of any investigation or any police search of what happened, it gets swept under the rug," Tremblay said.
Grand Council Chief Ron Tremblay says he wrote a letter to the mayor and police department of Edmundston requesting an Indigenous person be a part of the investigation. (Logan Perley/CBC)
Tremblay said he also asked for Robinson's dismissal following his interview with CTV.
"This clearly shows the racism that's part of policing here in New Brunswick, too," he said.
Tremblay said he plans to attend a sacred fire that has been lit at Madawaska First Nation, a Wolastoqey community which neighbours Edmundston.
"They're calling on people with pipes or any people who would want to go up to share prayers or do ceremonies for Chantel and send those prayers out to her family out in British Columbia," Tremblay said.
Tremblay said that the sacred fire will be lit until Sunday.
Edmundston police have engaged an "independent agency" to investigate whether the officer's actions complied with policing standards. New Brunswick doesn't have an agency like Nova Scotia's Serious Incident Response Team or Ontario's Special Investigations Unit that investigate police actions
Quebec's independent police watchdog, BEI, announced on Twitter it would handle the review.
An autopsy has been scheduled.
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https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/06/overworked-underpaid-and-at-breaking.html
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-personal-support-worker-raise-help-1.5597003
Overworked, underpaid and at the breaking point: Personal support worker calls for government aid
Antoinette Calder says no value being placed on service home-care workers provide
· CBC News · Posted: Jun 04, 2020 6:00 AM AT
Personal support workers in New Brunswick are paid $14.80 per hour, have no sick time or a pension plan. (iStock)
Antoinette Calder has reached her breaking point. After months of stress the Deer Island woman is desperately in need of some down time.
"I actually called today and told my supervisor I have to take this weekend off," said Calder. "I need a mental health day, I really do."
Calder, who is 59, has had just four days off since the COVID-19 crisis hit the province in March. She's worked as a personal support worker (PSW) for the past two years after a long career as a trucker.
Home-support workers provide care that keeps elderly New Brunswickers out of hospitals and nursing homes.
It's a difficult, physically and emotionally exhausting job that finds her lifting, washing and feeding her clients. She makes sure they take their medications, she picks up groceries and, in one case, even cares for the dog.
"It's pretty bad when I have to go to bed at nine o'clock because I'm tired. You eat dinner, do the dishes and go to bed. Nine o'clock and I'm in bed. That's not me."
Antoinette Calder, a Deer Island resident and personal support worker, said she's only had four days off since the COVID-19 pandemic started. (Connell Smith/CBC)
Calder's sometimes the only emotional support for clients isolated by the pandemic.
"We're dealing with older people who are so frightened of what's going on because they know they are high risk and they're watching the news," said Calder. "It's just exacerbating their fears."
She feels a responsibility for them, running errands and stopping in on her own time to see how they're doing. But when she's actually on the clock, she's paid $14.80 per hour, only slightly better than minimum wage.
She's not paid for the time she's not with the client, has no sick pay and no pension plan.
'Go where the money's at'
Calder works for Home Health Services, a non-profit home-care provider based in St Stephen. But the rate paid to home care PSWs is set by the provincial government.She's worried about where things are going. The population on Deer Island is aging fast and the only other full-time PSW there is a year older than her.
Tina Learmonth, the past president of the New Brunswick Home Health Association, said the personal support worker sector needs an investment in wages from the government. (Roger Cosman/CBC)
"We need an influx of younger blood into this profession. But when they can go and feed fish or go to work at a grocery store and make more money that we make ... it's a no-brainer. They're going to go where the money's at."
But Calder, and many others in her profession, feel no value is being placed on their work.
Tina Learmonth, past president of the New Brunswick Home Support Association, echoed that concern. She said if for some reason PSWs didn't come to work one day, the province would shut down.
"We can't afford all our seniors to go into emergency rooms, we can't afford everybody to stop working because they need to take care of their parents," said Learmonth. "So we need to place value in the work that this workforce does."
Investment needed
Few home-support workers are men, but Learmonth said she suspects if men had been doing work all along, the pay would be a lot higher than it is now.Learmonth said the sector desperately needs investment, and the need for higher wages has been acknowledged in ongoing meetings the association has had Department of Social Development officials.
"It's not a matter of us on one side of the table and them on the other side debating whether or not this sector needs more money. They agree. It's just a matter of let's roll up our sleeves and do it, let's figure out how we can make it happen."
Asked if PSWs should be paid more, Social Development Minister Dorothy Shephard said "damn straight."
But it's a question of what the province can afford.
"When we want to give a dollar-an-hour [raise] and we're looking at a $24- or $30-million bump, we have to be prepared for that," said Shephard. "It doesn't mean that we cannot continually keep trying to do so, and we will continue to."
Slight raise coming
Workers in the sector are scheduled to get a 50-cent-an-hour increase Nov. 1. A temporary increase in pay is on the way thanks to a federal COVID-19 benefit aimed at front-line workers.It will provide $500 a month backdated to the beginning of the crisis for a maximum total payment of $2,000.
Dorothy Shephard, minister of Social Development, said a $1-an-hour raise for home-care workers would cost the province between $24- and $30-million a year. (CBC)
Calder has another suggestion: Boost PSW salaries to where they should be — about 30 per cent higher — and create an education program to attract young people into the field, a program offering training and credits they can later build on to move into careers like nursing.
She's written letters raising her concerns and suggestions to several of the province's MLAs.
"I want to hear are you going to help us or not?" she said. "And I got zippo. Zilch. Nothing. I'm tired of this rhetoric. I'm tired of them not listening to us. I'm tired of it."
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"Calder has another suggestion: Boost PSW salaries to where they should be — about 30 per cent higher — and create an education program to attract young people into the field, a program offering training and credits they can later build on to move into careers like nursing.
She's written letters raising her concerns and suggestions to several of the province's MLAs.
"I want to hear are you going to help us or not?" she said. "And I got zippo. Zilch. Nothing. I'm tired of this rhetoric. I'm tired of them not listening to us. I'm tired of it."
Me Too
Dave Corbin
The province needs to pay for their use of their private vehicles and gas, both items which are not cheap when earning a low wage to begin with.
David Lutz
Reply to @Dave
Corbin: My wife did home care for a while, didn't take long to figure
out it wasn't worth it when they don't pay mileage or pay your salary
between clients, some of hers were 40 mins apart... made more money on
EI.
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @David Lutz: Yea Right
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @David Lutz: Methinks you are not the lawyer I know N'esy Pas?
David Lutz
Paid 14.80/hr, expected to use their personal vehicle to travel between clients and not paid for the travel time. what do you expect, Government wants seniors in their homes but who would work for that.
David Amos
David Amos
Reply to @Robert Jarvis: Why do you care what I ask?
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @David Peters: I am not a public official I intervene in the EUB matters as a private stakeholder. Methinks you should ask Higgy or his Ministers Holland or Shephard or Cardy's wife why the EUB engaged Chatham House Rules that I must uphold N'esy Pas?
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @David Lutz: could be worst, the airline flight crews who greet you at the planes door don’t get paid till the plane is airborne let alone walking from a gate to gate to change planes
Paid 14.80/hr, expected to use their personal vehicle to travel between clients and not paid for the travel time. what do you expect, Government wants seniors in their homes but who would work for that.
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @David Lutz: You seem concerned all of sudden Why is that?
Robert Jarvis
Reply to @David Amos: And why are you asking ?
David Peters
Reply to @David Amos:
When and where was the last eub meeting, and when and where is the next one? Why are they meeting secretly, do you think?
When and where was the last eub meeting, and when and where is the next one? Why are they meeting secretly, do you think?
David Amos
Reply to @Robert Jarvis: Why do you care what I ask?
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @David Peters: I am not a public official I intervene in the EUB matters as a private stakeholder. Methinks you should ask Higgy or his Ministers Holland or Shephard or Cardy's wife why the EUB engaged Chatham House Rules that I must uphold N'esy Pas?
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @David Lutz: could be worst, the airline flight crews who greet you at the planes door don’t get paid till the plane is airborne let alone walking from a gate to gate to change planes
Tony
Mcalbey
Money does not make any job any better if you don’t like the job. Some people have a clean home since they love doing housework to keep things up, others live in dumps since they have no ambition to pick up after themselves. Money doesn’t bring happiness.
Samual Johnston
Money does not make any job any better if you don’t like the job. Some people have a clean home since they love doing housework to keep things up, others live in dumps since they have no ambition to pick up after themselves. Money doesn’t bring happiness.
Samual Johnston
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: but it does allow you to do certain things and it does relieve
stress coming from lack of money - so in many ways it does bring
happiness. I don't think any one would disagree that these workers are
under paid.
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: FYI Methinks my Yankee wife had the right outlook on the Kings
James notion of filthy lucre I am certain many folks who are not
collecting welfare would agree that money is simply "fun coupons" that
some people work very hard to attain N'esy Pas?
Fred Estey
"Calder has another suggestion: Boost PSW salaries to where they should be — about 30 per cent higher " - based on Minister Shephard's claim that a $1/hour increase will cost taxpayers up to $30 million annually, a $4.44/hour increase would add up to $133 million/year. Nursing home workers, most of whom already make about $20/hour or more, while enjoying benefits, paid sick time and pension plans, are in the process of reviewing a new contract offer. Sadly, that cuts into the provinces ability to do much more for the home support workers than what has been promised for later this year - a 50 cents/hour increase.
Ben Haroldson
John Smith
Reply to @David Amos: when we stop giving Irving corporate welfare, I will listen to your week argument that we can't afford to pay workers a living wage in this Province and not a second before.
Fred Estey
"Calder has another suggestion: Boost PSW salaries to where they should be — about 30 per cent higher " - based on Minister Shephard's claim that a $1/hour increase will cost taxpayers up to $30 million annually, a $4.44/hour increase would add up to $133 million/year. Nursing home workers, most of whom already make about $20/hour or more, while enjoying benefits, paid sick time and pension plans, are in the process of reviewing a new contract offer. Sadly, that cuts into the provinces ability to do much more for the home support workers than what has been promised for later this year - a 50 cents/hour increase.
Ben Haroldson
Reply to @Fred Estey: $20 is poverty line.
JoeBrown
Reply to @Fred Estey:
Also the problem gets much bigger when govt pumps up wages for some
workers but not for others who do the same thing. New article discusses
the ripple effect of pumping up wages of people in n homes because it
will poach them from other hc that can't afford it so will shut down.
Quebec's campaign to hire more staff in CHSLDs risks creating holes elsewhere
Quebec's campaign to hire more staff in CHSLDs risks creating holes elsewhere
David Amos
Reply to @Fred Estey: Methinks its interesting that you can state such things N'esy Pas?
John Smith
Reply to @David Amos: when we stop giving Irving corporate welfare, I will listen to your week argument that we can't afford to pay workers a living wage in this Province and not a second before.
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @John Smith:
Irving provides huge employment for nbers. You want Irving to leave the
province? I’m sure another jurisdiction would welcome Irving
David Amos
Reply to @John Smith: Methinks you should check my work before you insult me N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Surely you jest
Matt Steele
There
is really something wrong with govt. services in N.B. when some govt.
workers are being PAID big money to stay home , while other govt.
workers are run off their feet . The casual govt. employees are treated
like dirt in N.B. , and work for severely reduced salaries with no
benefits ; while the person DOING THE EXACT same job working beside them
gets far more salary , plus a full benefit plan . A Substitute Teacher
told me that her pay is so low , with ZERO benefits , and no seniority
rights ; that the govt. cannot even fill the positions anymore , and
have been filling the positions with unlicensed , and unqualified people
. N.B. has a SERIOUS problem that is not being addressed
David Amos
Reply to @Matt Steele: BINGO
Barry Conroy
GO figure we pay our firefighter 6 figures to excercise, sleep at our expense, and we let these support worker wear themselves out. Firefighters have zero investment in them selves unlike nurse, paramedics etc., yet we pay them well. The municipal funds paying these people should be diverted to the PSW's, and let the firefighters negotiate with the insurance companies.
Errol Willis
Reply to @Barry
Conroy: Why does one group have to be torn down to support another? Each
job is different and comes with different qualifications and risks. PSW
absolutely deserve more, but that doesn't mean a firefighter deserves
less.
David Amos
Reply to @Barry Conroy: I can answer your quandary with one word
Unions
Unions
Rachel McDougall
As a person who works for the same company I know how she feels. A lot of us most likely won’t be eligible for the wage top up as we are not considered full time. Many workers hours were cut back because of the Covid pandemic but are still making just a hair above the $1000 maximum a month to be able to qualify for the CERB. I know I am struggling to make ends meet and am not sure what to do if I’m not eligible for the wage top up. This is a needed job in our province and it’s terrible that the workers should have to struggle financially while continuing to work everyday.
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @Rachel McDougall: living within ones means is how you don’t struggle financially.
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Yea Right
Methinks you should try making ends meet after paying your emergency room and doctors fees from your your old age and CPP pension funds because Higgy won't release a "Stay" on your medicare card N'esy Pas?
Methinks you should try making ends meet after paying your emergency room and doctors fees from your your old age and CPP pension funds because Higgy won't release a "Stay" on your medicare card N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Rachel McDougall: Perhaps you and I should talk
David News
So this is a classic example of why NB's economy is in the downward spiral. The government seems to ignore that fact that mobility of workers is much easier than it has in the past.
So our next door neighbour Quebec is hiring and training up to 10,000 PSW's for $21.00 p/h and when the training is done, about 26.00 p/h with benefits and pensions. Here in NB we are paying 14.40 per hr and no or very limited benefits.
How can NB hope to retain quality staff if a few hundred miles away someone can get the same type of job and earn double the income.
Tony
Mcalbey
Reply to @David News: cost of living higher in Quebec.
David News
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: Not 80% higher and like NB in the more rural part of the
province costs would be very similar. Plus in Quebec you have much
easier access entertainment, culture, cuisine, better transit, better
social services, generally much more robust health care and a greatly
superior set of post secondary education facilities.
James Smythe
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: Honestly Tony, it isn’t even. With rent controls in place, you
can get an apartment in Montreal, one of the biggest most desirable
cities to live in, for the same price as Moncton or Fredericton.
David Amos
Reply to @James Smythe: Good Point
David Amos
Reply to @David News: Well Put Sir
Michael G. L. Geraldson
With our ageing population something needs to change, and it needs to change soon. It is far cheaper to keep seniors in their homes than it is to keep them in hospitals or long term care homes.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Michael G. L. Geraldson:
It is only sustainable if you can find suckers OH!, sorry, workers, who will work long hours for nothing.
It is only sustainable if you can find suckers OH!, sorry, workers, who will work long hours for nothing.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: True
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/paul-ouellet-moncton-mental-illness-medication-management-dorothy-shephard-1.5590282
Advocate for mentally ill says shortage of home-care workers landed sister in hospital - twice
Paul Ouellet says without prescribed 'medication management' he is watching his sister spiral toward psychosis
· CBC News · Posted: Jun 03, 2020 6:00 AM AT
Paul Ouellet, 69, has been caring for his sister Lorette, 65, for the past 40 years. He says the government must find a way to ensure people who require regular home support continue to receive those services during the pandemic. (Vanessa Blanch/CBC)
A mental health advocate is demanding medication management and other basic home-care services be provided to those with mental illness after his sister, who has acute-chronic schizophrenia, was hospitalized twice in the past month.
Since the pandemic began, Paul Ouellet has watched his younger sister spiral into psychosis because personal support workers are not available to make sure she is taking her medication.
"There was no one available to go in and to provide this medication management to my dear sister Lorette and she was left on her own," Ouellet explained.
Before the pandemic began, a personal support worker would visit Lorette, 65, at her apartment each day to help her with housekeeping, shopping, getting to and from appointments and most importantly, making sure she was taking her medication regularly and in the correct doses.
In this prescription written in March, 2020, a doctor warns that Lorette will require her medication to be monitored if she is "to maintain stability in her mental condition." Despite the prescription, Paul Ouellet has been told no one is available to provide that service to his sister. (Vanessa Blanch/CBC)
Since the pandemic, Lorette and many other New Brunswickers are no longer receiving these basic and critical services because there is a shortage of home care workers.
Haley Flaro, executive director of the non-profit group Ability New Brunswick, said the shortage of personal support workers was already "a crisis," and since the pandemic began the problem has only gotten worse.
Ability New Brunswick provides support to New Brunswickers living with a mobility disability.
"We certainly have seen a reduction in the availability of workers," she said, explaining that many home-care workers left their jobs when federal benefits were introduced.
The Canada Emergency Response Benefit provides $500 per week for 12 weeks. For home-care workers in New Brunswick, who by and large work part-time and earn only slightly more than minimum wage, it was "more lucrative" than working.
"So it's actually put people in a position where it's safer, better and financially more stable to not work during this period," Flaro said.
Haley Flaro, the executive director of Ability New Brunswick, says many clients of the non-profit are going without adequate home care because there are no workers available to provide it. (Submitted by Haley Flaro)
The federal benefits, according to Flaro, have led to "significant reductions in home support" for many of her clients.
"Many are living in unsafe environments because they can't get the right care they need," she explained.
"Many are at risk of hospitalizations or unnecessary nursing home placements, so the home-support worker crisis that we were already experiencing in New Brunswick has been escalated by the pandemic."
Burden shifting to families
While Ouellet understands why some home-care workers have left their jobs during the pandemic, it has left his sister with no one to ensure she takes her medication, washes regularly and has groceries in the fridge.It is not her fault that she's not taking the medication as prescribed.- Paul Ouellet
While he talks to Lorette every day and reminds her to take her pills, Ouellet said he can usually tell within a few minutes whether she is.
"I would talk to her, yes, but Lorette would say, 'Paul I'm taking my medication. Paul I'm taking my medication.' What else can I do?
"It is not her fault that she's not taking the medication as prescribed."
Flaro said family and friends are trying to fill the gaps, but she worries it is leading to increased burnout.
"We're quite concerned and trying to work with families around that because the burden has really been increased on their shoulders."
A plea for help
When asked to describe his sister, Ouellet smiled and said Lorette is "a beautiful person" with "a lovely soul."She was studying languages at university when the symptoms of acute-chronic schizophrenia appeared in her early 20s.
You can't help when you meet her but to love her…the suffering that she goes through on a daily basis it's so sad.- Paul Ouellet
At her best, Ouellet said, she is a great conversationalist who loves to go to church. At her lowest moments, when she isn't taking her medication, Lorette becomes very anxious, frustrated and then begins to withdraw.
"She will call me and she'll say, 'Hi Paul.' I'll say, 'Oh hi Lorette, how are you doing?' And she does not answer. She does not answer. And then I'll say, 'Lorette,' I'll say, 'Is there something wrong? Is there something you would like to share with me?' And she doesn't talk. And those are some of the symptoms that she's starting to go into a psychosis."
He worries about his sister from the time he wakes up in the morning, until he goes to bed at night.
"When I'm with her she'll talk to the voices and say, ''Keep quiet, keep quiet.' She suffers the agony with her illness."
Hospitalized twice in less than a month
Sifting through his stacks of notes, Ouellet double checks the dates of Lorette's latest admission to hospital.Paul Ouellet goes through the detailed files he keeps about the care of his sister, Lorette, who suffers from severe schizophrenia. (Vanessa Blanch/CBC)
Her first stay in the psychiatry ward came on April 30. She was released on May 21, but there was still no home-care worker available to ensure she was taking her medication.
Ouellet pleaded with Lorette's health-care team to ensure medication management was in place before they sent her home.
"They just said they didn't have anyone to to look after the medication management. And I said, 'Well until you do … I suggest that you just keep her in the hospital because I can assure you, in my humble opinion, that if we release her from the hospital in the state that she's in, that within a day or two she will be readmitted.'"
Two days after her release from hospital, Ouellet was dialling 9-1-1 at 11 o'clock at night.
"I received a phone call from neighbours in the apartment building…they call me and they told me, 'Paul we can hear Lorette screaming in her apartment. She's screaming. Her door is closed and we can hear her screaming in the hallway.'"
Ouellet immediately headed over to her apartment to try to help his sister, along with paramedics and RCMP officers.
With tears in his eyes, he describes how she resisted going back to the hospital.
"She said, 'I don't want to go there, I don't like it'," Ouellet said. "She just dropped on the floor. She did not want to be re-hospitalized."
As she was put on a stretcher, his sister stopped speaking and stared at everyone "with glossy eyes."
Paul Ouellet wrote a letter to Social Development Minister Dorothy Shephard on April 30 when his sister was hospitalized for the first time because there was no home care worker available to ensure she was taking her medication regularly. (Vanessa Blanch/CBC)
For Ouellet, it is excruciating to watch his sister suffer, especially when it could be prevented if there was a home-support worker available to help her.
"It's very troublesome. It's very heart-breaking," he said.
"When I see the care that she is not getting and I say, 'If I wasn't around, where would she be? How would she be treated? And not only her — each and every person in New Brunswick suffering from mental illness."
Letter to minister
After his sister's first hospitalization, Ouellet sat down and wrote a letter to Social Development Minister Dorothy Shephard, explaining why he believes medication management should be considered an essential service.Social Development Minister Dorothy Shephard says better collaboration between the regional health authorities and the Dept. of Social Development is needed to ensure people are not released from hospital without adequate supports. (Ed Hunter/CBC)
He suggested another department take over the provision of the service if Social Development is unable to.
"Perhaps that essential service could, do you suppose, be rendered by the extra-mural nurses within the Department of Health," he wrote.
Ouellet hopes the provincial government will find a way to solve the problem soon.
"Who knows how long the pandemic is going to last. Even if it goes away, are we going to have another episode of the pandemic in the fall or next winter? We need to solve it now. It's urgent."
On Thursday read part two of this series on home care in New Brunswick. We will hear from a home-care worker who has continued to work since the pandemic began. On Friday, Social Development Minister Dorothy Shephard will respond to concerns about the availability of home-care workers and what her government is doing to improve the situation.
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Moncton man demanding better home care for mental health patients
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Commenting is now closed for this story.Mary Smith
I thought this case seemed familiar, so I looked it up and there's been a lot of stories about these siblings over the years:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/woman-catatonic-bedbug-apartment-1.4776734
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/mental-health-advocate-1.5386559
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/mental-health-issues-decriminalized-charges-1.3479954
But there's many more articles than just these three. This is not just a pandemic related story, but there seems to be a pattern of struggle, and there should be a better way of living for those involved in this article.
I don't think she can continue to live on her own. Not without some sort of round the clock care, or video monitoring, or something else in place. She just needs too much care, and she needs to be somewhere where she can be monitored and get the help she needs to function well.
It's sad, but sometimes independent living is not possible. It's not good for her and it is not doing her any favours and is not helping her condition. At a certain point, maybe her brother or other family members should be her full time caretaker and live with her, because this is a on going issue, and something has to be done to protect her.
I don't know what she needs or what living situation would be best, but this is a long pattern of inadequate care and suffering as a result, and I hope she gets the help she needs because she clearly needs more help than she's getting and cannot be left alone or left living the way she has been. It's a difficult situation, but clearly something has to change to help improve her quality of life and her living situation.
David News
Seems to me that this specific issue is about more than home care workers.
Our social systems are dependent on all of us to be able to take care of ourselves, follow societies rules and laws that allow us to co exist without reverting law of the jungle measures.
The issue of mental health is one of the most challenging to address. People afflicted with these types of diseases are fine one minute and then potentially over the top the next.
The fact that this individual is dependent upon a home care worker visiting to ensure they take their medication, suggests that this person is not really capable of living independently, without causing risk to herself or those around her.
While I do empathize, this fellows sister would clearly be better off living with a relative or perhaps some type of group home environment where the home provides the supports that the people need.
Just seems to me the current system in this case is not very effective at caring for the affected people.
Our social systems are dependent on all of us to be able to take care of ourselves, follow societies rules and laws that allow us to co exist without reverting law of the jungle measures.
The issue of mental health is one of the most challenging to address. People afflicted with these types of diseases are fine one minute and then potentially over the top the next.
The fact that this individual is dependent upon a home care worker visiting to ensure they take their medication, suggests that this person is not really capable of living independently, without causing risk to herself or those around her.
While I do empathize, this fellows sister would clearly be better off living with a relative or perhaps some type of group home environment where the home provides the supports that the people need.
Just seems to me the current system in this case is not very effective at caring for the affected people.
SarahRose
Werner
Reply to @David News:
Lorette Ouellet and many others are quite capable of living on their
own *as long as* they receive appropriate personal support care. The
problems started when the care was no longer available.
David News
Reply to @SarahRose
Werner: SarahRose... While these folks are capable of doing most of the
things themselves, if they cannot take their medication themselves to
stay healthy there should be better options than home care where they
are reliant on someone visiting during the week to give them the
medication that they need.
Ideally something like a group home where they have their own private room and bathroom. But the home would be staffed by qualified personnel that would be able to assist when and where needed and where taking the medication that is so important is always done.
Ideally something like a group home where they have their own private room and bathroom. But the home would be staffed by qualified personnel that would be able to assist when and where needed and where taking the medication that is so important is always done.
SarahRose
Werner
If the work that home
care workers do is vital to keeping people out of hospitals, I'd
suggest that they ought to be getting paid more than "only slightly more
than minimum wage," especially considering that minimum wage in New
Brunswick is only $11.70 an hour.
Mary Smith
Reply to @SarahRose
Werner: As a former at home care worker, that is why I left. Having to
go to school (I was doing it before you had to go to school, but if I
wanted to return I'd have to pay for school for a year to continue on),
have your own vehicle and cell phone, drive between clients, for only
slightly more than minimum wage.
For such an emotionally draining job, it is just not worth it. It's not a living wage and it's frankly insulting to be paid so little, it's basically volunteering your time at a certain point, and you're just expected to live in poverty or just slightly above poverty for being in that line of work.
For this pandemic, it would be so stressful to be an at home care taker. For H1N1, I had to take a month off of work, all the while they forced me to continue to go to hospital for sick note after sick note, until one kind doctor wrote me a note for "a month or more, or until I was better" and they tried to force me to still see clients even though I had H1N1 and did not want to infect them. There's not much protection there for workers, and I could not afford to take sick days at the time, so it almost ruined me financially -- it was only because I lived so modestly that I was able to survive taking those weeks off without pay.
For such an emotionally draining job, it is just not worth it. It's not a living wage and it's frankly insulting to be paid so little, it's basically volunteering your time at a certain point, and you're just expected to live in poverty or just slightly above poverty for being in that line of work.
For this pandemic, it would be so stressful to be an at home care taker. For H1N1, I had to take a month off of work, all the while they forced me to continue to go to hospital for sick note after sick note, until one kind doctor wrote me a note for "a month or more, or until I was better" and they tried to force me to still see clients even though I had H1N1 and did not want to infect them. There's not much protection there for workers, and I could not afford to take sick days at the time, so it almost ruined me financially -- it was only because I lived so modestly that I was able to survive taking those weeks off without pay.
Mary Smith
Reply to @Mary Smith:
Everyone should 1) have sick days available to them, without being
forced to go to hospital to get a sick note to not lose your job (I
believe that is changed somewhat now, but during H1N1 I don't think that
was the case), and 2) be able to afford to take a day off of work if
sick, and especially if they work with the public or vulnerable
populations, and 3) have proper PPE, as I remember in NS the partner of
the at home care taker who was pregnant and a victim in the shooting,
pleading for proper PPE for at home care workers, because his partner
did not have what she needed, and the clients were not provided with
masks, so the workers were not protected from their clients.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/mental-health-advocate-1.5386559
Longtime advocate for mentally ill says vulnerable group needs voice in government
A Liberal motion to create a mental health advocate position passed unanimously last week
· CBC News · Posted: Dec 06, 2019 12:21 PM AT
Paul Ouellet has had to be an advocate for three siblings with mental illnesses, including his sister Lorette, who was diagnosed with schizophrenia 40 years ago. (CBC)
A Moncton man is counting on the provincial government to follow through on the proposed creation of a mental health advocate position.
For more than 40 years, Paul Ouellet, a retired federal civil servant, has been an advocate for three of his siblings who have been living with mental illness.
"My big dream is that someday we will be able to say the majority of those in the province suffering from mental health are treated with respect and dignity," Ouellet said.
"They don't have the tools to defend themselves."
A Liberal motion to create an advocate position passed unanimously last week in the legislature. However, the motion is non-binding, and the government is not required to allocate any money in the budget for it.
Ouellet said a mental health advocate would help New Brunswick's vulnerable population, providing an impartial and independent voice for people with mental health problems and their families.
"Very often, their basic needs are not met."
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New Brunswick is a step closer to establishing a mental health advocate.
Patients needing help
"Right now, we have no one to be there for those that are the most vulnerable of our society," Ouellet said. He has also been meeting politicians and officials to create the position.Ouellet recalled a mental health patient who badly needed a mattress and box spring to sleep on. He said the individual made contact with the Social Development and was told the provincial department does not assist people with that particular need.
"When that person discussed it with me, I thought there has to be someone, somewhere that will eventually listen to the need of that person."
Ouellet became aware of the need for an advocate decades ago after his sister Lorette was diagnosed with acute, chronic schizophrenia — a biochemical brain disorder that affects a person's ability to determine what is reality and what is not — in her last year of university. She's now in her sixties.
Living without
Ouellet said New Brunswickers dealing with mental illness aren't always treated with respect and don't often have the resources or the self-esteem to get help.So they end up going without.
"A mental health advocate is going to be, for every person in this province, a great, great help."
Ouellet said he'll keep a close eye on government's next budget and is hopeful it will include money for an advocate and the resources that person will need.
"We need someone," he said. "It is most definitely a step in the right direction."
With files from Information Morning Moncton
https://nbliberal.ca/2019/12/liberal-motion-on-mental-health-receives-unanimous-support-from-legislative-assembly/
Liberal motion on mental health receives unanimous support from Legislative Assembly
December 3, 2019
A motion introduced by the Official Opposition and proposing the creation of a mental health advocate position was unanimously passed, last week in the Legislative Assembly.
Motion 12, introduced by Monique LeBlanc, MLA for Moncton East, and seconded by Robert McKee, MLA for Moncton Centre, urged the Conservative government to create the position of a mental health advocate, with the status of legislative officer, as an impartial and independent voice for persons with mental health issues and caregivers of family members acting on their behalf. Following government’s refusal to create a new legislative officer position, Liberal MLAs amended their motion and proposed the creation of a mental health advocate position. The motion as amended received unanimous support from the government and the other two opposition parties.
Monique LeBlanc says that she wanted the debate to remain apolitical. “Mental health affects all New Brunswickers. It was important not to fall into political partisanship. I am therefore happy that this motion was passed unanimously.” The member for Moncton East emphasized the importance of giving the new advocate the means to respond to the mental health needs of the population. “In order for it to be passed, we had to reduce the scope of our motion. Nonetheless, I believe it is a step in the right direction. Going forward, it will be necessary to ensure that it is an independent senior position with sufficient resources. ”
Robert McKee, Opposition critic for Justice and seconder of the motion stressed the urgency of the situation. “The 2009 Together for the Future Report contained more than 80 recommendations, some of which have yet to be implemented. The latest statistics clearly show that the situation has become critical. We must act quickly and strengthen our capacity to respond to mental health needs. ”
An advocate for mental health, Paul Ouellet was a present at the Legislature during the debate on the motion. “It is clear that this motion will advance the issue of mental health: people with mental illness will finally have a voice and someone to defend them. The fact that the vote was unanimous is a good sign and I hope that all political parties will now work in the same direction, “said Ouellet. “This is a first step. I hope that the creation of the position will be reflected in the next provincial budget, that it will be a senior position and that it will be totally independent. ”
According to Statistics Canada, suicide is the second leading cause of death for youth aged 20 to 29 and the third leading cause of death for adults aged 30 to 44. Of the 4,000 people who die in Canada each year as a result of suicide, more than 90% had a mental health problem. In its latest report, the New Brunswick Health Council also reported that 48% of students surveyed in the province had had symptoms of anxiety and depression in the past school year. Globally, productivity losses from depression and anxiety are estimated at about $ 1.3 trillion a year, according to the World Health Organization.
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