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Crown prosecutors seek to skip conciliation step, move to strike option
Court backlog looms after 97% of Crown prosecutors reject latest contract offer from New Brunswick government
By Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon, CBC News
Posted: Sep 01, 2016 6:00 AM AT
The union representing Crown prosecutors in New Brunswick
wants the labour board to declare an impasse in contract negotiations
with the province to give them the right to strike "sooner rather than
later," likely before the end of the year.
It comes after 97 per cent of members rejected the government's latest offer of a one per cent wage increase for each of the next four years, said Steve Hindle, a vice-president with the Professional Institute of the Public Service of Canada.
"The government doesn't seem to be willing to change its position and it's not giving us any indication that further discussions would result in any material difference to a tentative agreement, so we would be encouraging [the labour board] to say we're at a deadlock," said Hindle.
"Based on the current state of affairs, I think it's very likely that we will see some job action by the Crown prosecutors probably by the end of 2016," he said, possibly sooner if the labour board agrees to skip the conciliation board step as being nothing more than a "pro forma exercise."
Hindle expects a decision by the New Brunswick Labour and Employment Board as early as this month.
A strike would result in "a significant backlog" in the court system, primarily provincial court, said Hindle.
Only 28 of the province's 61 prosecutors would be deemed essential and continue to work through any job action to handle "the more serious cases."
"There is going to be an awful lot of waiting that people will have to do if they're expecting a court date," he said, urging the province to "consider making a better offer."
New Brunswick's prosecutors have been without a contract since March 31, 2013.
They are the lowest paid prosecutors in the country, earning between $42,562 and $115,804, said Hindle, referring to 2009 statistics, the latest available figures and the ones used in the current negotiations.
By comparison, prosecutors in neighbouring Nova Scotia are paid between $56,096 and $125,000, while those in Ontario have the highest salaries at between $74,520 and $196,965.
"It's completely unacceptable for the government to offer our members a symbolic one per cent wage increase and no improvements in their working conditions after years of salary freezes and an ever-increasing workload," Chris Titus, president of the New Brunswick Crown Prosecutors' Association, said in a statement.
"All we're asking is to be compensated fairly for our efforts and expertise."
Vicky Deschênes, a spokeswoman for the Department of Human Resources,
said it would be "premature for government to comment on the details."
But she described it as "an active file."
"The bargaining process has not been exhausted and we remain hopeful the parties will reach an agreement," she said.
Hindle said wages are "the big stumbling point."
But he also believes "pent up frustration" over the government's switch to a shared-risk pension model for public service employees — and the ongoing lawsuit — has also played a role.
"We think of it as the total compensation that the province gives to its employees and even though it wasn't at the bargaining table, pensions has been hanging over the relationship with this government and the previous government and it's affecting how people deal with the offer," he said.
"It's part of compensation, so why isn't it negotiable? It's a legitimate question," he said.
"I'm not suggesting that the answer is it has to be negotiable, but I am suggesting an exploration of the question is not out of order."
No talks are currently scheduled, said Hindle.
"We always prefer to have a negotiated agreement … without having to resort to using the labour capital that we control, but in the end if that's what it takes, then that's what it takes."
The Professional Institute of the Public Service of Canada represents approximately 55,000 scientists and other professionals across Canada's public sector.
Chart data is courtesy of PIPSC. One position has since been added, bringing the total to 61 positions.
It comes after 97 per cent of members rejected the government's latest offer of a one per cent wage increase for each of the next four years, said Steve Hindle, a vice-president with the Professional Institute of the Public Service of Canada.
"The government doesn't seem to be willing to change its position and it's not giving us any indication that further discussions would result in any material difference to a tentative agreement, so we would be encouraging [the labour board] to say we're at a deadlock," said Hindle.
"Based on the current state of affairs, I think it's very likely that we will see some job action by the Crown prosecutors probably by the end of 2016," he said, possibly sooner if the labour board agrees to skip the conciliation board step as being nothing more than a "pro forma exercise."
Hindle expects a decision by the New Brunswick Labour and Employment Board as early as this month.
A strike would result in "a significant backlog" in the court system, primarily provincial court, said Hindle.
Only 28 of the province's 61 prosecutors would be deemed essential and continue to work through any job action to handle "the more serious cases."
"There is going to be an awful lot of waiting that people will have to do if they're expecting a court date," he said, urging the province to "consider making a better offer."
Lowest salaries in Canada
They are the lowest paid prosecutors in the country, earning between $42,562 and $115,804, said Hindle, referring to 2009 statistics, the latest available figures and the ones used in the current negotiations.
By comparison, prosecutors in neighbouring Nova Scotia are paid between $56,096 and $125,000, while those in Ontario have the highest salaries at between $74,520 and $196,965.
"It's completely unacceptable for the government to offer our members a symbolic one per cent wage increase and no improvements in their working conditions after years of salary freezes and an ever-increasing workload," Chris Titus, president of the New Brunswick Crown Prosecutors' Association, said in a statement.
"All we're asking is to be compensated fairly for our efforts and expertise."
Government remains 'hopeful'
But she described it as "an active file."
"The bargaining process has not been exhausted and we remain hopeful the parties will reach an agreement," she said.
Hindle said wages are "the big stumbling point."
But he also believes "pent up frustration" over the government's switch to a shared-risk pension model for public service employees — and the ongoing lawsuit — has also played a role.
"We think of it as the total compensation that the province gives to its employees and even though it wasn't at the bargaining table, pensions has been hanging over the relationship with this government and the previous government and it's affecting how people deal with the offer," he said.
'If that's what it takes, then that's what it takes.' - Steve Hindle, PIPSCHindle contends it might be time for the government to consider legislative changes to allow pension arrangements to be handled through contract negotiations.
"It's part of compensation, so why isn't it negotiable? It's a legitimate question," he said.
"I'm not suggesting that the answer is it has to be negotiable, but I am suggesting an exploration of the question is not out of order."
No talks are currently scheduled, said Hindle.
"We always prefer to have a negotiated agreement … without having to resort to using the labour capital that we control, but in the end if that's what it takes, then that's what it takes."
The Professional Institute of the Public Service of Canada represents approximately 55,000 scientists and other professionals across Canada's public sector.
Chart data is courtesy of PIPSC. One position has since been added, bringing the total to 61 positions.
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These are the same folks who
in Fredericton consistently ask for remands in custody and jail
sentences for shop lifters. I for one will not be encouraging government
to pay them more.
There is something unseemly about high paid public servants jailing poor people and drug addicts for stealing things worth $5 and $10. If the morality of it does not bother you then the cost should, it is about $200 a day to keep a prisoner in an NB jail.
NB needs to adopt some kind of alternative justice program to deal with these cases. But please do not pay these people more money.
There is something unseemly about high paid public servants jailing poor people and drug addicts for stealing things worth $5 and $10. If the morality of it does not bother you then the cost should, it is about $200 a day to keep a prisoner in an NB jail.
NB needs to adopt some kind of alternative justice program to deal with these cases. But please do not pay these people more money.
@Sean Onuaillain Now this is
funny I recall when I was running for a seat in Parliament in 2004 for
Fundy Royal David Lutz (The third person to comment today) was the
President of the local Liberals and running the campaign for John Herron
out of his law office. Meanwhile he leading all the legal aid lawyers
in work stoppage seeking the same pay as the prosecutors he is
supporting today. Both David Lutz and I spoke before the court on July
29th, 2004 the very day the former AG (now a judge) fired all the legal
aid lawyers in the province and changed to system to assist the CROWN in
its prosecutions rather than the folks Lutz and his cohorts claim to
defend. Lutz knows I raised a lot of Hell that day in 2004 and that is
still ongoing to this very day. In fact it been before the Federal Court
of Canada since the election last year.
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@Sean Onuaillain Alternative
justice is not necessary. We need to properly separate Justice from
politics. Did you know that Harper politically vetted all the judges he
appointed? Trust that these greedy lawyers and their union know it.
Here what I am having fun with today Please note Hindle's words.
"Hindle said wages are "the big stumbling point." "But he also believes "pent up frustration" over the government's switch to a shared-risk pension model for public service employees — and the ongoing lawsuit — has also played a role"
Interesting words from a fellow political animal circa 2004 EH?
http://www.pipsc.ca/portal/page/portal/website/news/newsreleases/archives/2003/Steve%20Hindle%20Announces%20He%20Will%20Step%20Down
Ottawa, November 7, 2003 - Steve Hindle announced this morning that he would not seek a fourth mandate in 2004 as President of the Professional Institute of the Public Service of Canada.
"My desire to become a Member of Parliament arises from my experience as President... We must do more to influence senior politicians on the workplace issues that we hold important."
Now fast forward to the last Federal Election
http://ottawacitizen.com/news/politics/union-launches-political-but-non-partisan-campaign
Well anyone can Google the former President Gary Corbett's old email address the word pension and my name to see what I sent him as I made fun about what Blaine Higgs and David Coon were yapping about pensions in 2013
FYI Type "gcorbett@pipsc.ca pension David Amos" and Google will provide this link as their first suggestion
http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/11/i-bet-john-sinclair-blaine-higgs-and.html
P.S. I must say I am impressed with CBC's newfound sense of Integrity today.
Here what I am having fun with today Please note Hindle's words.
"Hindle said wages are "the big stumbling point." "But he also believes "pent up frustration" over the government's switch to a shared-risk pension model for public service employees — and the ongoing lawsuit — has also played a role"
Interesting words from a fellow political animal circa 2004 EH?
http://www.pipsc.ca/portal/page/portal/website/news/newsreleases/archives/2003/Steve%20Hindle%20Announces%20He%20Will%20Step%20Down
Ottawa, November 7, 2003 - Steve Hindle announced this morning that he would not seek a fourth mandate in 2004 as President of the Professional Institute of the Public Service of Canada.
"My desire to become a Member of Parliament arises from my experience as President... We must do more to influence senior politicians on the workplace issues that we hold important."
Now fast forward to the last Federal Election
http://ottawacitizen.com/news/politics/union-launches-political-but-non-partisan-campaign
Well anyone can Google the former President Gary Corbett's old email address the word pension and my name to see what I sent him as I made fun about what Blaine Higgs and David Coon were yapping about pensions in 2013
FYI Type "gcorbett@pipsc.ca pension David Amos" and Google will provide this link as their first suggestion
http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/11/i-bet-john-sinclair-blaine-higgs-and.html
P.S. I must say I am impressed with CBC's newfound sense of Integrity today.
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@Sean Onuaillain Seems that
CBC as per its MO has decided to block my comments AGAIN immediately
after I commented that Iwas impressed with newfound sense of Integrity.
So in reponse as per my MO I will create a pdf file of the already saved the digital snapshot and forward it to the boss Hubby Baby Lacriox and some of his minions within the CBC legal dept etc
We all know why I will Tweet about this article and the unethical actions of CBC per my MO N'esy Pas Minister Melanie Joly?
So in reponse as per my MO I will create a pdf file of the already saved the digital snapshot and forward it to the boss Hubby Baby Lacriox and some of his minions within the CBC legal dept etc
We all know why I will Tweet about this article and the unethical actions of CBC per my MO N'esy Pas Minister Melanie Joly?
Shawn Tabor
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David Raymond Amos
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Way to go Famous keep up the good work.I remember this back in July of 2004.
@Shawn Tabor Good Day Shawn
glad to see that you are paying attention I don't think most folks other
that the lawyer Lutz know that you are joking about my name and
chocolate chip cookies
David Raymond Amos
These lawyers are the dumbest in Canada and are in fact overpaid.This is the same union that is suing us on behalf of the very lawyers who help to change their own pension plan DUHHH?
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These lawyers are the dumbest in Canada and are in fact overpaid.This is the same union that is suing us on behalf of the very lawyers who help to change their own pension plan DUHHH?
David Lutz
You can't get good prosecutors when paying them peanuts. They should be paid better to make sure we get convictions on criminals.
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You can't get good prosecutors when paying them peanuts. They should be paid better to make sure we get convictions on criminals.
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Mike Archibald
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@David Lutz LOL, your own
argument is self defeating. Since in your opinion they are paid
peanuts, then obviously they are not good prosecutors because you 'can't
get good prosecutors when paying them peanuts'. By that reasoning we
should increase the wage, but fire all those currently working as crown
prosecutors.
But thats just pathetic that you think convictions on criminals depends on how well a prosecutor does their job. Maybe 'justice' should have something to do with it.
But thats just pathetic that you think convictions on criminals depends on how well a prosecutor does their job. Maybe 'justice' should have something to do with it.
@Mike Archibald YO Mikey aka
"Mikel" you write "LOL" just like your blogging buddy Chucky Leblanc
often does. Methinks the joke is truly on you and the lawyer Lutz whom
you are making fun of today.
Clearly CBC knows that Lutz has lots of critics within his own chosen profession because of his actions.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/justin-bourque-appeal-rcmp-1.3297019
I know Lutz is clever enough not to get in a spit and chew with Mean Old Me within a CROWN Corp's public website. Hence he will try to ignore just like he always does
Everybody and his dog who pays attention to politics and legal matters in NB since 2004 know that I am more than a mere political foe of Lutz's However today I have a bone to pick with you Mr Archibald. My question is are you game to dice with me in public in our true names?
Clearly CBC knows that Lutz has lots of critics within his own chosen profession because of his actions.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/justin-bourque-appeal-rcmp-1.3297019
I know Lutz is clever enough not to get in a spit and chew with Mean Old Me within a CROWN Corp's public website. Hence he will try to ignore just like he always does
Everybody and his dog who pays attention to politics and legal matters in NB since 2004 know that I am more than a mere political foe of Lutz's However today I have a bone to pick with you Mr Archibald. My question is are you game to dice with me in public in our true names?
@David Raymond Amos Yes I know people that did vote for you Dave in Fundy Royal in two elections
Henry Moody
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Why should lawyers in NB get
special treatment? Wages/salaries in NB are crap across the board. Why
would any professional want to live in NB with the language barrier and
ridiculously high taxes?
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