Methinks Mr Prime Minister Trudeau "The Younger", The RCMP and the Mindless Lawyer Minister Goodale have a lot of explaining and apologizing to do ASAP N'esy Pas?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/rcmp-background-checks-public-safety-1.4558903

RCMP raising concerns about Liberals' changes to criminal background checks

Criminal Records Act gives federal public safety minister power to alert organizations about a pardoned record

By Catharine Tunney, CBC News Posted: Mar 04, 2018 4:00 AM ET


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David Amos

"The RCMP continues to work very closely with Public Safety to ensure the integrity of the vulnerable sector regime in the context of the privacy rights of Canadians and community safety."

Integrity???

Yea Right

Perhaps folks should Google my name to find an old document of mine "Entitled Integrity Yea Right" to see what happened between the First Minister of Public Safety, the RCMP and I before the writ was dropped for the election of the 38th Parliament. Once you find it look within for the letter I sent Frank McKenna about his support of Ralph Goodale during that election.

David Amos

@David Amos Here one spot to find the aforementioned documents

https://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/integrity-yea-right

 

David Amos

"Independent Sen. Kim Pate, the former head of the Canadian Association of Elizabeth Fry Societies, said background checks aren't the only way to protect daycares and nursing homes from those wishing to do harm.

"Of course we want to see protections. What we know, though, is criminal record checks (are) not the most effective way to prevent those kinds of abuses," she said. "The majority of people who have committed offences, whether it's sexual offences or others, are in fact not even sometimes reported, certainly not prosecuted."

Omy ain't that quite a mouthful coming from the Chamber of sober second thought?

Methinks that criminal record checks would be a very good way to help stop KNOWN criminals from breaking the law again N'esy Pas?

 

John Mclean

Chretien era politician. The only liberal seat in Sask. I bet his constituents are proud?

David Amos

@John Mclean Of that I have no doubt. Methinks many of Goodale's constituents are related to or work with the RCMP. Hence the old liberal lawyer gets to oversee and protect them from our indignation while he pays big bucks to his old buddy McKenna to help select a new RCMP Commissioner. N'esy Pas?

  

John Jackson

Public Safety minister.

There's an oxymoron. A man not doing his job. A liberal shill collecting a check.

That may be the most scared I've ever seen a Minister in my life. Looked like he seen a ghost.

David Amos

@John Jackson "Looked like he seen a ghost."

He did.

Lets just call me the Ghost of the Election of the 38th Parliament.

 
Ken MacDonald

This isn't that difficult. If your record includes any kind of crimes against children or the elderly, it should never be expunged. Ever.

David Amos

@Ken MacDonald What about when the RCMP cause a wrongful death? Should that record be expunged merely because the Crown settled out court after being sued by the widow?

Charlie Wood

@Richard Sharp

You can always tell when the Liberals start to lag in the polls, they go after the criminal vote.

David Amos

@Charlie Wood I am surprised that Mr Sharp has not responded

 

Joyce Dunn

How was Karla Holmolka allowed to volunteer at her children's school?

David Amos

@Mark Wood "And the school was aware of who she was."

Thats the interesting part to me. Suppose she was a guy with the same criminal record? Would the Me Too rule apply?

 

Rob Unrau

With the Liberals allowing ISIS fighters back and the way they handled India with Atwal. Giving Omar 10.5 million. Boyle also being buds with Justin I don't trust the Liberals at all to get it right.

Guy Stone

@Rob Unrau your comment seems absurd but unfortunately it is real. We have a prime minister that is heavily deranged

Andy Freeman

@Guy Stone

deranged or simply incompetent?

either way, not good for us

David Amos

@Andy Freeman Yea but how do the RCMP explain not doing their job?

 

Stan Hawk

Considering that they invited a convicted attempted murderer to dinner this story should come as no surprise.

Guy Stone

@Stan Hawk it's to protect Liberals

Paul Reed

@Stan Hawk

Reminds me of a former Toronto mayor in his views on some Hells Angels he had spoken with. He said something along the lines of 'they seem like a bunch of good guys'.

My eyes still hurt from rolling them so far around in their sockets when I read that.

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David Amos 

@Stan Hawk Your comments are off topic for this article but I must respond if only to sooth my savage soul. The liberals can be as dumb or as incompetent as they wish in inviting a convicted attempted murderer to dinner in a foreign land. Their mindless actions still does not explain why the RCMP allowed this nonsense in India to happen under their watch.

However when the liberals tried to blame agents of India in some sort of ridiculous conspiracy they embarrassed us all in the world view. Google the issue if you don't believe me. Again where were the RCMP to set the record straight?

Methinks Mr Prime Minister Trudeau "The Younger", The RCMP and the Mindless Lawyer Minister Goodale have a lot of explaining and apologizing to do ASAP to folks in India and Canada N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@Stan Hawk Methinks Mr Prime Minister Trudeau "The Younger", The RCMP and the lawyer Minister Goodale have a lot of explaining and apologizing to do ASAP to folks in India and Canada as well N'esy Pas?

  

Marty Lee

God help Canada and our children survive this irresponsible, nation destroying Trudeau “government”....

Daniel McKay

@Marty Lee "God help Canada and our children survive this irresponsible, nation destroying Trudeau “government”...."

Jagmeet to the rescue! In matching cape & turban...

David Amos

@Daniel McKay ROTFLMAO

 

Alex Forbes

More evidence Trudeau doesn't care about the public's safety.

David Amos

@Neil Gregory "Trudeau II and company care about one thing only - winning the next election."

YUP

 

Harry Flemming

Good News - Ipsos Reid poll shows Tories now leading Liberals 38 % to 33 % . Election now please before Trudeau does anymore harm to Canada .

David Amos 

@charleysinclair "Canadians are disturbed by a pm who invites Assassins to dinner."

Methinks Canadians have a right to be disturbed Nesy Pas? The liberals can be as dumb or as incompetent as they wish in inviting a convicted attempted murderer to dinner in a foreign land. Their mindless actions still do not explain why the RCMP allowed this nonsense in India to happen under their watch.

However when the liberals and the RCMP tried to blame agents of India being involved in some sort of ridiculous conspiracy they embarrassed us all with "peoplekind" around the world watching the Trudeau Circus unfold its tent in India. Anyone can Google the issue sometime if they don't believe me.

  

Steve Timmins

In the Liberals world, there are no bad people just people in need of a hug. All better now.

David Amos

@Steve Timmins Methinks that Mr Prime Minister Trudeau "The Younger" thinks that there is nothing like rolling up his sleeves and giving a hug and a selfie to make peoplekind come around to his way of thinking N'esy Pas?

  

John Raymond

Seems more and more that Liberals consider

Criminals, Radicals, Terrorists are best friends of Justin. Can a Liberal Supporter out there refute that?

David Amos

@Floyd Robertson "It's also pretty obvious he was set up."

How so with the RCMP watching over everything?

David Amos

@John Raymond "Can a Liberal Supporter out there refute that?"

Nope and BTW I definitely don't support any political party.

Methinks it was kinda obvious to a lot of folks long ago that Trudeau "The Younger" was every nasty dude's friend particularly when he supported Harper's Bill C 51 N'esy Pas?

  

Glen Rodgers

Too many times I've stomached watching Justin ramble on in the HOC about how he and his liberal cohorts take the safety of Canadians "seriously". Only to turn around and allow former ISIS fighters back into the country, to put quantity of refugees ahead of quality of screening, etc. Now to read that since taking power there has been a 57% reduction (95% to 38%) in disclosures issued is very disturbing.

Anyone who can still believe that Justin and Co take our safety serious need to give their heads a serious shake.

David Amos

@Bob Gillies "What law in Canada allows the government to refuse entry of Canadian citizens?"

Ummmm You could not answer the question eh?

RCMP raising concerns about Liberals' changes to criminal background checks

Criminal Records Act gives federal public safety minister power to alert organizations about a pardoned record

By Catharine Tunney, CBC News Posted: Mar 04, 2018 4:00 AM ET

People working with children and the elderly are often asked to provide a criminal background check. The RCMP is raising issues with the way the Liberal government is disclosing pardoned offences. (Katerina Georgieva/CBC) 

The RCMP is taking issue with changes the Liberal government made to criminal background checks and the pardons system, pointing to cases of people with "disturbing" records applying to work with vulnerable individuals, CBC News has learned.

The force's concerns were summarized in a briefing note prepared by public safety staff to update Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale on the changes to the system.

The issue is how criminal background checks conducted by police for people applying to work with individuals considered "vulnerable" — children and the elderly, for example — are handled in cases where a person has received a record suspension, commonly known as a pardon.

A record suspension helps give a past offender a clean slate when it comes to renting an apartment or applying for a job. But the offence isn't completely erased, just set aside. Criminal background checks required under vulnerable sector regulations do turn up those record suspensions, mainly previous sex offences.

The federal public safety minister has the final say when it comes to disclosing someone's past criminal record under vulnerable sector regulations — even if they've had an offence suspended.

• Government hears support for making it easier, cheaper to obtain a criminal pardon

• Public safety minister vows to overhaul 'punitive' criminal pardons system

The Criminal Records Act calls on the minister to take a number of factors into consideration in such cases, including whether the suspended offence involved violence, children or a breach of trust.

'Undeniably, these offences are disturbing.' - Memo to Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale

If the disclosure is approved, a copy of the suspended record is returned to the applicant and the police service that oversaw the request. If it's denied, the background check is returned as having found "no record."

Conservative government disclosed more

Starting in 2016, the Liberal government made changes to the process to weigh the act's provisions alongside new evidence and research.

Public safety officials prepared a briefing note for Goodale on the status of the changes at the end of 2017. It says the government should take "into account current research findings demonstrating that sex offenders who have remained crime-free for 20 years or more have a similar or lower risk to reoffend than the general population."

Research also shows that sex offenders who were 24 years old and younger "could be considered immature at the time and less likely to reoffend," says the briefing note.

As a result of the changes, there have been fewer disclosures of pardoned criminal records under the Trudeau government.

Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale has called the criminal pardons system 'punitive.' (Justin Tang/Canadian Press)

Former Conservative public safety minister Vic Toews delegated his signing power over to the department's director general of crime prevention in 2011.

"Between 2011 and 2015, almost all vulnerable sector requests seeking disclosure of a pardoned record were approved," the briefing note says. In 2015, for example, 95 per cent of all vulnerable sector disclosures were approved.

But in 2016, the year changes were made, only 38 per cent of disclosure requests were approved.
"The RCMP has expressed their concern with this approach," Goodale was told in the briefing note.

RCMP working to 'ensure the integrity' of system

For months, the RCMP have been sending Public Safety information to support approving more disclosures of suspended records. At one point, RCMP flagged three cases up for disclosure.

The details of the cases were redacted in the Access to Information Request, but Public Safety acknowledged their severity in the briefing note.

"Undeniably, these offences are disturbing and this information is important to have in assessing [vulnerable sector] disclosure requests," it reads.

Kim Pate, who has spent most her life fighting for the rights of women in prison, says background checks aren't the only way to stop abuse. (Colin Perkel/Canadian Press)

Despite flagging the issue to the department, the RCMP refused to comment on the specifics in the briefing note.

"The RCMP has provided Public Safety in the past further information on the nature of the offence with respect to individual cases. However, this type of information often does not reside in the RCMP's information holdings and may or may not still be held by the police service originally involved in the handling of the offence," said spokesperson Sgt. Marie Damian.

"The RCMP continues to work very closely with Public Safety to ensure the integrity of the vulnerable sector regime in the context of the privacy rights of Canadians and community safety."

A spokesperson for Goodale said the government's decision process still sticks to the criteria laid out in the Criminal Records Act.

"Vulnerable sector checks provide essential information to employers, school administrators and others responsible for vulnerable groups so that they can make good decisions about potential employees and volunteers. These checks help keep our most vulnerable safe," Scott Bardsley said.

"The RCMP has been providing additional information to better support these determinations."

Background checks not a catch-all: senator

Independent Sen. Kim Pate, the former head of the Canadian Association of Elizabeth Fry Societies, said background checks aren't the only way to protect daycares and nursing homes from those wishing to do harm.

"Of course we want to see protections. What we know, though, is criminal record checks (are) not the most effective way to prevent those kinds of abuses," she said.

"The majority of people who have committed offences, whether it's sexual offences or others, are in fact not even sometimes reported, certainly not prosecuted."

The Senate is reviewing Bill C-66, which gives the Parole Board of Canada jurisdiction to order, or refuse to order, the expungement of convictions for any of a list of past Criminal Code offences that includes gross indecency, buggery and anal intercourse. It was introduced when Prime Minister Justin Trudeau apologized to LGBT Canadians for "systematic oppression."

Pate said she's been talking about the need for a more robust conviction review scheme that would allow some convictions to expire.