Anyone but me notice that CBC did not offer a comment section for Part 2 of this tempest in a teapot after they argued on air the first comment section with one of Chucky Leblanc the welfare bum's best butt buddies the fat dumb and happy but very evil Conservative lawyer Chucky Murray?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/stranded-woman-serena-wood-miramichi-fredericton-1.4579012

Minister doesn't want anyone else stranded at night by jail staff

Serena Woods was abandoned at Miramichi gas station at night with only $18 after being released from jail

CBC News Posted: Mar 16, 2018 6:00 PM AT

Serena Woods had to hitch a ride from a gas station outside Miramichi to Moncton, then to Fredericton, after correctional staff left her at the side of the road over the Family Day weekend. (Catherine Harrop/CBC)

Anyone but me notice that Chucky "Crybaby" Leblanc, Stevey Boy Horsman and Denis Baby Landry are no longer best of butt buddies and Chucky is pissed off again? TOO TOO FUNNY INDEED

http://charlesotherpersonalitie.blogspot.ca/2018/03/liberal-minister-stephen-horsman-called.html

Thursday, 15 March 2018

Liberal Minister Stephen Horsman called Scumbag by Blogger!!!

https://youtu.be/6jTh25ykHQU

Posted by Charles Leblanc at 1:15 pm

http://charlesotherpersonalitie.blogspot.ca/2018/03/minister-of-justice-and-public-safety.html

Friday, 16 March 2018

Minister of Justice and Public Safety Denis Landry ignores Blogger and start singing like a Bird!!!! What does this mean???

https://youtu.be/ds1aQeVxGLI

This is where the Minister began singing!!!!!--

https://youtu.be/YJ0JjII0b7g

This is the reason he's all upset.....

Click below -

https://charlesotherpersonalitie.blogspot.ca/2018/03/new-brunswick-minister-of-public-safety.html

1 comment :

Charles Leblanc16 March 2018 at 19:47

Denis Landry has clearly been given his "shut up" talking poiint.

---------- Original message ----------
From: "Gallant, Premier Brian (PO/CPM)" <Brian.Gallant@gnb.ca>
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2018 19:17:48 +0000
Subject: RE: The consequences of not paying fines is jail time, not being fed to the wolves
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Thank you for writing to the Premier of New Brunswick. Please be
assured that your email will be reviewed.

If this is a media request, please forward your email to
media-medias@gnb.camedia-medias@gnb.ca
>. Thank you!

******************************

*******

Nous vous remercions d’avoir communiqué avec le premier ministre du
Nouveau-Brunswick. Soyez assuré(e) que votre courriel sera examiné.

Si ceci est une demande médiatique, prière de la transmettre à
media-medias@gnb.camedia-medias@gnb.ca

>. Merci!

---------- Original message ----------
From: "Fitch, Leanne" <leanne.fitch@fredericton.ca>
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2018 19:17:44 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: The consequences of not paying fines is jail time, not being fed

to the wolves
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

I will be out of office for work related purposes from March 12 to
March 15, 2018. Please contact Deputy Gaudet in my absence through
(506)460-2300.

Due to a very high volume of incoming email to this account there is
an unusual backlog of pending responses. Your query may not be
responded to in a timely fashion. If you require a formal response
please send your query in writing to my attention c/o Fredericton
Police Force, 311 Queen St, Fredericton, NB E3B 1B1 or phone (506)
460-2300. If this is an emergency related to public safety please call
911.

This e-mail communication (including any or all attachments) is
intended only for the use of the person or entity to which it is
addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If
you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, any use, review,
retransmission, distribution, dissemination, copying, printing, or
other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this e-mail, is
strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please
contact the sender and delete the original and any copy of this e-mail
and any printout thereof, immediately. Your co-operation is
appreciated.

Any correspondence with elected officials, employees, or other agents
of the City of Fredericton may be subject to disclosure under the
provisions of the Province of New Brunswick Right to Information and
Protection of Privacy Act.

Le présent courriel (y compris toute pièce jointe) s'adresse
uniquement à son destinataire, qu'il soit une personne ou un
organisme, et pourrait comporter des renseignements privilégiés ou
confidentiels. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire du courriel, il est
interdit d'utiliser, de revoir, de retransmettre, de distribuer, de
disséminer, de copier ou d'imprimer ce courriel, d'agir en vous y
fiant ou de vous en servir de toute autre façon. Si vous avez reçu le
présent courriel par erreur, prière de communiquer avec l'expéditeur
et d'éliminer l'original du courriel, ainsi que toute copie
électronique ou imprimée de celui-ci, immédiatement. Nous sommes
reconnaissants de votre collaboration.

Toute correspondance entre ou avec les employés ou les élus de la
Ville de Fredericton pourrait être divulguée conformément aux
dispositions de la Loi sur le droit à l’information et la protection
de la vie privée.

GOV-OP-073

---------- Original message ----------
From: Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc.ca
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2018 19:17:48 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: The consequences of not paying fines is jail time, not being fed

to the wolves
To: motomaniac333@gmail.com

Thank you for writing to the Honourable Jody Wilson-Raybould, Member
of Parliament for Vancouver Granville.

This message is to acknowledge that we are in receipt of your email.
Due to the significant increase in the volume of correspondence, there
may be a delay in processing your email. Rest assured that your
message will be carefully reviewed.

To help us address your concerns more quickly, please include within
the body of your email your full name, address, and postal code.

Please note that your message will be forwarded to the Department of
Justice if it concerns topics pertaining to the member's role as the
Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada. For all future
correspondence addressed to the Minister of Justice, please write
directly to the Department of Justice at
mcu@justice.gc.camcu@justice.gc.ca

> or call 613-957-4222.

Thank you

-------------------

Merci d'?crire ? l'honorable Jody Wilson-Raybould, d?put?e de
Vancouver Granville.

Le pr?sent message vise ? vous informer que nous avons re?u votre
courriel. En raison d'une augmentation importante du volume de
correspondance, il pourrait y avoir un retard dans le traitement de
votre courriel. Sachez que votre message sera examin? attentivement.

Pour nous aider ? r?pondre ? vos pr?occupations plus rapidement,
veuillez inclure dans le corps de votre courriel votre nom complet,
votre adresse et votre code postal.

Veuillez prendre note que votre message sera transmis au minist?re de
la Justice s'il porte sur des sujets qui rel?vent du r?le de la
d?put?e en tant que ministre de la Justice et procureure g?n?rale du
Canada. Pour toute correspondance future adress?e ? la ministre de la
Justice, veuillez ?crire directement au minist?re de la Justice ?
mcu@justice.gc.ca ou appelez au 613-957-4222.

Merci

---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2018 15:17:40 -0400
Subject: The consequences of not paying fines is jail time, not being fed to the wolves
To: media-medias@gnb.ca, oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, andre <andre@jafaust.com>, jbosnitch <jbosnitch@gmail.com>, "Dominic.Cardy" <Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca>,

"Hamish.Wright" <Hamish.Wright@gnb.ca>, "Susan.Holt" <Susan.Holt@gnb.ca>,

"jody.carr" <jody.carr@gnb.ca>, "Jody.Wilson-Raybould" <Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc.ca>,
"Bill.Morneau" <Bill.Morneau@canada.ca>, "Jacques.Poitras" <Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>,

"Robert. Jones" <Robert.Jones@cbc.ca>, "darrow.macintyre" <darrow.macintyre@cbc.ca>, "ht.lacroix" <ht.lacroix@cbc.ca>, "sylvie.gadoury" <sylvie.gadoury@radio-canada.ca>,

"Melanie.Joly" <Melanie.Joly@parl.gc.ca>, postur <postur@for.is>, birgitta <birgitta@this.is>,

pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, "Gerald.Butts" <Gerald.Butts@pmo-cpm.gc.ca>,

"Jack.Keir" <Jack.Keir@gnb.ca>, "rick.doucet" <rick.doucet@gnb.ca>,

"David.Coon" <David.Coon@gnb.ca>, Brian Ruhe <brian@brianruhe.ca>,

BrianThomasMacdonald <BrianThomasMacdonald@gmail.com>, paul <paul@paulfromm.com>,
"brian.gallant" <brian.gallant@gnb.ca>, "bill.pentney" <bill.pentney@justice.gc.ca>,

"serge.rousselle" <serge.rousselle@gnb.ca>, "denis.landry2" <denis.landry2@gnb.ca>,
"hugh.flemming" <hugh.flemming@gnb.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, "Paul.Harpelle" <Paul.Harpelle@gnb.ca>, ombudsman <ombudsman@gnb.ca>, "charles.murray" <charles.murray@gnb.ca>,

premier <premier@gnb.ca>, "Leanne.Fitch" <Leanne.Fitch@fredericton.ca>,

"martin.gaudet" <martin.gaudet@fredericton.ca>, "mike.obrienfred" <mike.obrienfred@gmail.com>, "Larry.Tremblay" <Larry.Tremblay@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>

Thursday, 15 March 2018

The consequences of not paying fines is jail time, not being fed to the wolves

http://www.cbc.ca/listen/shows/information-morning-fredericton/segment/15528603

Punished for being poor?

Mar 16, 2018

The province's Ombud weighs in on the case of the Fredericton woman left stranded by the New Brunswick Women's Correctional Centre in Miramichi. Was everything by the books? He says "we can do better."

https://podcast-a.akamaihd.net/mp3/podcasts/infomornfred-UXrwtozS-20180316.mp3

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fredericton-woman-stranded-jail-staff-1.4576328

Fredericton woman says jail staff left her stranded at gas station on outskirts

Serena Woods was left to fend for herself after being released from the Miramichi jail over Family Day weekend

CBC News Posted: Mar 15, 2018 4:00 AM AT

271 Comments
Commenting is now closed for this story.

June Arnott

Incredible Stupidity inhumane. Unbelievable that they did this. What if she got assaulted. They obviously don’t care. Must have lost their humanity along the way.

William Roberts

@June Arnott And if she was a he? Well then it would be perfectly fine!
When do HUMANS start taking responsibility for their own actions. You want to be treated as equals. This ie equal.

Content disabled.

David Amos

@William Roberts Methinks its rather amazing that sometimes you and I agree N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@William Roberts Why is it that I was not surprised that CBC blocked my reply to you?

Rene Carlson

A quite similar situation that happens frequently is when patients are finished treatment in hospitals and then sent home hundreds of miles away without any means of getting there.

Bernard Cormier

@Jake Werner
I had a few parking tickets in my lifetime. Paid it the same day. No big deal. She put it all on herself. I bet she will pay the next time and other will think twice before they have a attitude with the law. Misery is a powerful motivator.

David Amos

@Bernard Cormier What if you don't have the money to pay the fine? Would you do the time then walk home?

Sean Onuaillain

It is not just the department of justice. Fredericton police arrested a poor person for not paying a fine. This happens all the time. Poor people going to jail for, well, being poor. Judges and prosecutors know these people can't pay the fines and know they will be jailed at a later time.

If you are not bothered by the morality of poor people being jailed then you should be by the cost. It cost about $175 to keep a person in jail for a day. That is not including police, court costs etc. To process this woman and haul her half way around the province probably cost in the vicinity of $1,300. For two $100 fines. That is insane.

Alex Forbes

@Sean Onuaillain They arrested a criminal because she victimized someone. Did you read what the fines were for?

David Amos

@Alex Forbes "Did you read what the fines were for?"

I didn't. Did you? That said what difference would it make anyway?

Joe Powers

Department of Justice said it will not speak about individual cases, even with permission

They know it will blow over without serious consequences, no one cares, Deny, Deny.

Content disabled.

David Amos

@Joe Powers Methinks apathy always rules the day and thats why we get the governments we deserve N'esy Pas?

Content disabled.

David Amos

@Joe Powers Trust that you would have agreed with my reply to you if CBC had allowed you to see it

David Amos

@Joe Powers It appears that you are another guy whom CBC will not allow me to agree with for some strange reason I will never understand.

Scott Kane

Disgusting. Problem is nobody will be held accountable for treating this woman like a sub human.

Craig Nettles

@Scott Kane

Really? And she had to pay a Victim fine because....... she treated someone like a sub-human? The fine upstanding member of our society that she is, got treated badly in her eyes, boo hoo

David Amos

@Craig Nettles how can you say that when you do not know what the Victim fine was for?

William Robertson

It is always somebody else's fault. Seems like it is always somebody else's responsibility now as well.

David Amos

@William Robertson Methinksl its Chucky Leblanc's fault that CBC decided to this story N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@William Robertson True story.

In the late fall of 1971 I was a 19 year old passing through Newcastle late at night on my motorcyle.It got very cols out and I did not have enough money for a motel and doubted that I could make it back to Fredericton that night on the bike (I was attending UNB at the time).
Another student had told me that if you are in dire straights just go to a jail because by law they must take you in out of the weather. So I gave it a try. Sure enough the nice jailer gave me a cell for the night.

I wonder if that law has ever been changed. If not then methinks the lady has the right to sue N'esy Pas?

Bob Holgate

@David Amos
She has the right to sue no one.The rules were followed.

David Amos

@Bob Holgate Yeaso you say Trust that the Attorney General of New Brunswick's best lawyer told me I have no right to sue the Crown and there have been 11 decisions in the matter thus far and I am far from done

Christopher Robins

Still believe Canada is a free country? One wrong step you are in jail.

David Amos

@Christopher Robins "None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free."

Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

Roger Drisdelle

Well, according to personal experience from 16 years ago, it is illegal to hitchhike in Miramichi. Was pulled over and made to walk outside the city limits without hitchhiking under the threat of getting brought in to jail. Why would they now be telling people to hitchhike?

David Amos

@Roger Drisdelle "Was pulled over and made to walk outside the city limits without hitchhiking under the threat of getting brought in to jail. Why would they now be telling people to hitchhike?"

Methinks the Sheriffs should be sent to jail and fined as well N'esy Pas?

Kris Keith

1. She was fined (committed an offence)
2. She had time to pay that fine (probably 12 months)
3. She can pay a little each month if not paid on the due date and has shown good faith by small payments she can get an extension to pay.
4. She was driven to the jail free on cost to her
5. She was housed and fed in jail free to her cost

If she would have paid her fine in the 1st place which was her primary responsibility she would never have been in this situation. Now she wants a drive home? Don't think so

Come on time to be responsible folks!

David Amos

@Kris Keith What if you were arrested without a warrant held for over two days with no charges and assaulted then told to walk home?. Then the cops etc denied it happened yet I have the proof that it did.

BTW I see that you are person of my former Clan Remember Keith's motto Veritas Vincit?

Greg Gore (formerly Greggore)

Sorry, I don't want to sound unsympathetic, but really, if this story was about a male getting out of jail, no one would have given the story a second thought, especially the news.

1000's of men have been released from prison with not so much as a "good luck" from their jailers as they leave.

Honest, we could do a whole lot better, but the news could to.

I wish this woman well and stay out of jail.

Content disabled.

David Amos

@Greg Gore (formerly Greggore) "if this story was about a male getting out of jail, no one would have given the story a second thought, especially the news."

YUP

Content disabled.

David Amos

@Greg Gore (formerly Greggore) Trust that you would be amazed at the reason why CBC just blocked my reply to you

Content disabled.

David Amos

@Greg Gore (formerly Greggore) I have a question too Why is CBC blocking my replies to you? All I did was write one word in agreement with you.

David Amos

@Christopher Robins For what it is worth I agree with Mr James and I have asked the same question as well

David Amos

@Douglas James "I have left that business far behind and for good reason"

Do tell us more

Scott Service

Those twit sheriffs should be reprimanded and suspended from duty without pay, this is Canada!

David Amos

@Scott Service Those twits are acting under orders from above.

Methinks the Minister who oversees them all should be suspended without pay. N'esy Pas?

Bob Holgate

@David Amos Why? This is near the end of the story.

"The rules say correctional staff will try to help prisoners find family or community resources, but transportation upon their release is the responsibility of the offender"

So they followed the rules and the Minister did nothing wrong.

David Amos

@Bob Holgate Have you ever heard of the term "Protect and Serve"???

Now suppose she was your daughter?

BobbyTaylor

@David Amos - the NB government is too busy keeping Quebec beer out of the province. That costs them tax money that they could spend dumping prisoners 200 km from home.

David Amos

@BobbyTaylor Methinls the Judges in the Supreme Court are still scratching their head as the why the wannabe judge Serge Rouselle put the beer issue before them N'esy Pas?

John McLeod

One fine was for breaching a court order, the other for not paying a victim surcharge.

Tell us what she did to receive the fines in the first place before having us all pass judgement.

William Roberts

@Douglas James "judge not less ye be judged?"
There needs to be consequences or we risk anarchy.

Douglas James

@William Roberts What you have just said applies 100 percent to the government of New Brunswick. Make up your mind where you stand on this issue.

John McLeod

@Douglas James Some human beings are despicable. For all we know she threw a senior citizen down to the sidewalk and took her pension money. Maybe she was a jaywalker. We are missing the most important fact in the whole story.

Humans are judged continuously by the courts, By other people. We need to know the facts before we are expected to have sympathy towards her or condemn her. Both are judgements. One good. One not so good.

David Amos

@William Roberts Methinks you seem to try to inspire anarchy all the time N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@John McLeod "Humans are judged continuously by the courts, By other people."

Whether you have empathy towards her or not I believe this article is about the long walk home The Sheriff's vans come and go from the jail all the time correct?

Anna Santua Isabelle

Not surprised a trucker has more humanity then some government employees. I’ve been helped out by a trucker before myself, some of them are real angels.

David Amos

@Anna Santua Isabelle YUP

Douglas James

Every day I get out of bed I pray for a compassionate world. It certainly doesn't appear to be doing any good considering some of the comments on this story. All those who are so quick to judge this woman, yet seem so eager to allow negligent, irresponsible, unethical and likely illegal actions of correctional staff to go unpunished should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves.

Content disabled.

David Amos

@Douglas James "Human beings have to earn compassion? What a wonderful person you must be!"

Methinks he just put his foot in his mouth N'esy Pas?

Content disabled.

David Amos

@William Roberts WOW does CBC ever love you N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@Douglas James "So many cold-hearted, selfish people in this world"

Way too many

Pierre Filion

Not here to pass judgement but what if a Man had complained? He would be laughed at. Look life is tough. You do the crime you serve the time. Then move on. There are NO free rides in life.

Douglas James

@Pierre Filion So many people who can't see the forest for the trees. So sad.

David Amos
@Douglas James I suspect some commenters are employed in law enforcement and are earning fine wages and looking forward to a dandy pension because this supported this nonsense. Remember the lady who bucked the system from within? I bet she wished that she had hitched a ride with decent trucker that day eh?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/sheriff-injured-in-van-crash-treated-like-trash-by-government-1.2461869

Sheriff injured in van crash treated 'like trash' by government
Natalie Doucet says she never received letter of commendation, lost her job
CBC News Posted: Dec 12, 2013 6:51 PM AT

Pete Dio

Nice of the trucker ... good people out there with a big heart. Kudos to you sir.

David Amos

@Pete Dio I agree

Douglas James

Denis Landry is Minister of Justice AND public safety. That means he is responsible for the safety of ALL New Brunwick citizens, including Ms. Woods. In civilized countries, governments don't get to cherry pick those who deserve protection and those who don't. Leaving Ms. Woods stranded in this way put her at risk. It was an outrageous act of inhumanity against a fellow citizen and needs to be condemned in the strongest terms.

I hope she hires a lawyer and sues those responsible as this was a clear case of negligence and callous disregard for an individual under the care of this government.

David Amos

@Douglas James "I hope she hires a lawyer and sues those responsible"

Trust that her lawyer would not be on her side as he squandered her money in legal fees.

Douglas James

@David Amos I'm pretty sure lawyers take a limited contingency fee. If she loses, the lawyer gets nothing. If she wins, the lawyer shares in the results.

David Amos

@Douglas James Good luck finding one them in the Maritimes

Sheilagh Wong

Is jail really the way to deal with non-payment of fines? She owed $200, putting her in jail for one night cost the taxpayer much more than that. It seems to me that a better way to deal with unpaid fines would be wage garnishment, complete with interest and service fees to cover the cost of doing the paperwork.

It seems New Brunswick is moving to the American model where corrections staff make jobs for themselves by jailing people while they bankrupt the state.

David Amos

@Sheilagh Wong I agree

Christopher Robins

Maybe a good long walk would give her time to think about what she did.

Art Clogg

@Christopher Robins

A good long walk in a nor'easter, sure. I'm surprised you didn't recommend the death penalty over a $100 fine except you did.

Content disabled.

David Amos

@Art Clogg Methinks empathy is a rare thing for some folks to show N'esy Pas?

Content disabled.

David Amos

@Art Clogg Oh my CBC should be ashamed of themselves for blocking my reply to you

David Amos

@Christopher Robins WOW

Robert Shirley

An assassin was permitted to enjoy a dinner party with the Prime Minister yet a woman who owes society $100 is jailed. This is very discouraging.

David Amos

@Robert Shirley No its 3 years past 2015 Sunny days are over

Dave Kliveland

As a wise man once advised me....."if you don't like the way you are livin', change the way you are livin"

David Amos

@Dave Kliveland Did you?

Mike Morton

Poetic justice.

David Amos

@Mike Morton That depends on the poets you admire

Glen robert

I realize she is at part responsible
But some people can be harsh.I would suspect that the officers knew before hand that she would be released using this as punishment of their own.
And to tell her to hitch hike is even more disturbing.

David Amos

@Glen robert I have no doubt whatsoever that was their plan

Douglas James

It is no wonder New Brunswick can't solve its many problems. When a citizen actually believes that one has to EARN compassion, I mean, what kind of person would think that way? If we can't have compassion for our fellow human beings, our struggle to make this province a better place is doomed to failure.

David Amos

@Douglas James Never lose your faith in mankind. Think of the trucker who took her home.

Rene Cusson

So they arrested her, and sent her to jail...then after dragging her to another city, declared the jail time served and sent her on her way?

Sounds like the city just wanted to be rid of her, so they gave her the midnight ride treatment, and the other city's local cops just wanted to give her a good F.U., so they refused to help her in any way whatsoever. she's just a panhandler after all, nobody worth helping or protecting as far as both city's are concerned. (THAT, they've proved time and time again...)

Typical, but unfortunately for them, she didn't die and she's not the quiet type.

David Amos

@Rene Cusson "so they refused to help her in any way whatsoever. she's just a panhandler after all, nobody worth helping or protecting as far as both city's are concerned."

I believe you hit the nail on the head look how they accommodated a former Attorney General who did not pay his fine

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/kelly-lamrock-charge-driving-suspended-dropped-1.4025775

Driving while suspended charge against ex-attorney general Kelly Lamrock dropped
Charge under Motor Vehicle Act stemmed from unpaid parking ticket, Lamrock says
CBC News Posted: Mar 15, 2017 12:07 PM AT

FRANCIS DOYLE

If these facts are true some one has to take responsibility for the way this was handled. Talk about a misguided way of dealing with this situation,totally unacceptable.

Content disabled.

David Amos

@FRANCIS DOYLE This happens everyday in all our jails

Content disabled.

David Amos

@FRANCIS DOYLE Methinks that CBC has a little trouble with the truth N'esy Pas?

Content disabled.

David Amos

@FRANCIS DOYLE Your reasoning also applies to CBC's actions

David Amos

@FRANCIS DOYLE True

John McLeod

Tell us what this victim did to have a fine for "a victim surcharge" that she had to pay. Then you'll have a real story.

David Amos

@John McLeod Why?

Bob Holgate

@David Allan
No they don't. The story clearly states once released there is no taxi ride provided.

David Amos

@Bob Holgate What was the point of the taxi ride up north then if they knew she was to be released?

Chantal LeBouthi

CBC can you check how much it cost in tax payer money to have two sheriffs to bring a poor woman in jails from Frdericton to Miramichi (including salaries and fuel and Luch) for a $200:00 for nothing due that they said her fine deemed paid

Thank you to Mr Poirier for his kindness

Content disabled.

David Amos

@Chantal LeBouthi Trust that CBC does not care. They are employed by the same Crown

Content disabled.

David Amos

@Chantal LeBouthi Looks like CBC did not like the truth again N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@Chantal LeBouthi If you only knew the truth of just this thread

Bob Smith

Can't do the time or deal with the consequences, don't do the crime.

Chantal LeBouthi

@Bob Smith

If you read the story it seems she did

David Amos

@Chantal LeBouthi Exactly

Daniel Roberts

correctional institutions do not have to take responsibility for your return home. can you imagine if every prisoner had to be escorted back to where they came from?? LOL ridiculous. i dont know why this is a news story and why she feels so wronged.

David Winters

@Daniel Roberts not if you are in Alberta...Still on the books in Alberta: Once you’re released from prison, the government is required to give you a handgun, bullets, and a horse…so you can get the heck out of town.

David Amos

@David Winters WOW

Jack Richards

Obviously these sheriffs should be canned. Left out in the middle winter.

David Amos

@Jack Richards I wonder what the Sheriffs' Mother's think of their actions

Cheryl MacLeod

We try to build respect into our justice system, but sometimes invoke policy unnecessarily to impose a petty measure of justice... justice, as we see it. People tend to know what is right and humane. Just ask them how they would like to be treated.

David Amos

@Cheryl MacLeod "Just ask them how they would like to be treated."

Exactly that used to be the Golden Rule. Now it is he with the gold makes the rules.

Jack Richards

Petty crime gets its hard while collar politicians get off easy.

David Amos

@Jack Richards I concur whleheartedly

Greg Lang

And if they let her stay for the night..."shackled and everything" the story would be that she had done her time but was kept in jail anyway against her will. You can't have it both ways.

David Amos

@Greg Lang Not if she signed ff on it

Brooke Lane

@David Amos
incorrect statement

David Amos

@Brooke Lane So you say

Marc Martin

I don't see what they did wrong here, at least they brought her to a gaz station. Also another thing this person states that she only had $20 in her pocket but CBC states lower she had $18 ? which one is it CBC ? Also she didn't have a credit card ?

David Amos

@Marc Martin Like the lady I don't have a cell phone, credit card or a car so what good is the gas station other than getting in out of the weather?

Christopher Robins

@David Amos yet you have a computer to be commenting on here...

David Amos

@Christopher Robins Yup it is an old GNB throwaway that our tax dollars paid for long ago

Ruby Peckham

Ruby Peckham While I agree that correctional institutions do not have to take responsibility for your return home do they not have a responsibility to serve and protect? This woman was not protected by being left late at night with no means to return to her home. We have countless cases of woman gone missing and many unfortunately later found dead. Personally as a responsible citizen I am grateful to this trucker who saw fit to serve and protect another human being.

David Amos

@Ruby Peckham I already mentioned the responsibility to serve and protect earlier and they skipped over it like it wasn't there

Brooke Lane

@David Amos
awe....did you want them to put her up in a hotel for the night and feed her a couple meals too?
There are policy's in place, and they followed them.
End of story

David Amos

@Brooke Lane Your beloved policies maybe

David Allan

People need to be fired over this.

David Amos

@David Allan I would start with the political bosses

Brooke Lane

@David Allan

No David, you need to be educated on policy, before spouting off.
You are only getting this woman's version of the story, don't forget that.
Awe...poor criminal hey...I am so sick of all you bleeding heats thinking its society's fault, or in this case the fault of law enforcement.

David Amos

@Brooke Lane "No David, you need to be educated on policy,"

Methinks you sound like a bureaucrat who may have dreamed up the policy N'esy Pas?

Christopher Robins

This country is begging to be taken by a stronger enemy. So many wimps in the comments. I've walked over 50km in a snowstorm once and didn't cry about it. Maybe cause I don't eat soy and wear skinny jeans

David Amos

@Christopher Robins I bet you did so because you were ordered to do so correct?

Douglas James

@Christopher Robins The country has already been taken over by an enemy my friend, and the enemy is within.

Christopher Robins

@David Amos I had no choice, car broke down, that's just life, you survive or you don't. Humans, the only animal that feels sorry for itself.

Content disabled.

David Amos

@Douglas James Pogo said long ago "We Have Met the Enemy and He Is Us"

David Amos

@Christopher Robins Trust I have been tested my Mother Nature many times in that regard and every instance it my foolhardy ways that inspired it. Although I was fairly tough in my younger days I would be the first to admit that I was more lucky or clever than tough in order to survive the pickle I put myself in.

I do agree with your point about the crybabies lately but imagine if this lady was you daughter. The last thing anyone would ever call me is a whimp because of my challenges of authority. You don't have to leave your seat to verify what I say is true Just Google my name.

Content disabled.

David Amos

@Douglas James Trust that you would have giggled at my reply

Christopher Robins

@David Amos then family should have been notified to come get her, she must have known someone. So maybe this is on her family and friends..

David Amos

@Christopher Robins Just because you have family and friends with cars it does not follow that she does. Perhaps you should listen to Chucky Leblanc's interview of her that inspired this article?

kelly sherrard

Of course the gov't won't comment and if this woman had disappeared, they would have distanced themselves further from the situation. If she was picked up in F'ton, she should have been returned to F'ton. She shouldn't have been taken out of the F'ton area to begin with. I'm not surprised that the Dept of Justice won't respond. There is no defence for what they have done!

David Amos

@kelly sherrard "If she was picked up in F'ton, she should have been returned to F'ton. She shouldn't have been taken out of the F'ton area to begin with."

Good point particularly after she had already spent the night in their lock up.

Brooke Lane

@kelly sherrard

Sure there is. How unfortunate for you that you are not educated on the policies they must adhere too.
Don't believe everything you read on CBC.

David Amos

@Brooke Lane "Don't believe everything you read on CBC."

I Definitely Don't Here is one involving me

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276

Artie Gibson

How many other policing agencies in Canada, besides Winnipeg, are doing the same thing?

Content disabled.

David Amos

@Artie Gibson Hard telling not know for sure but know there are several mentioned in CBC over the years and the RCMP did it me twice

David Amos

@Artie Gibson RCMP

Chris Van Ihinger

Does this mean starlight tours are now supplied in New Brunswick?

And here we all thought it was just the shortarm of the law in Winterpeg that pulled this one.

David Amos

@Chris Van Ihinger Nothing like a long lonely night under the northern lights Just ask the fine old poet Robert Service.

Jack Richards

These sheriffs are you typical public servants with a lack of common sense. Nothing like public servants on the job telling a woman to hitchhike back home when they were suppose to bring her to her destination.

Brooke Lane

@Jack Richards

Common sense does not factor in here. There are policies to follow people, whether you like them or not.
Not many people putting the blame where it really belongs. WITH HER!

Content disabled.
David Amos

@Brooke Lane Common sense is everything to any proper Maritimer Only a mindless bureaucrat from Quebec would make such a claim. Methinks you are upset that nobody cares about your beloved policies N'esy Pas?

Content disabled.
David Amos

@Brooke Lane It Figures that CBC would block my reply to you EH?

David Amos

@Dave Anderson "They do not have the resources" ????

What about never leaving Fredericton in the first place after she spent the night in jail there???

Lou Bell

Obviously , Justice and common sense are like oil and water. These guys should be ashamed of themselves ! And quit trying to hide behind rules or whatever spin they can think of ! Shameful and disgusting !

Content disabled.
David Amos

@Lou Bell Justice and common sense are myths

Content disabled.
David Amos

@Lou Bell I was blocked for merely agreeing with you Go Figure

David Amos

@Lou Bell Please define Justice and Common Sense within Irving's Serfdom

Jef Cronkhite

Might I remind you all that she had TWO outstanding amounts from TWO separate crimes? This could have easily been prevented had she:
A) NOT committed the crimes in the first place
B) Fulfilled her promise to the court to PAY said amounts.
I can't believe that people are siding with her on this. SHE broke the law, and SHE didn't fulfill her obligation to the court, but SHE is the victim here?
Certainly, she was inconvenienced, but how inconvenienced were the people she committed crimes against?

Jay Oak

@Jef Cronkhite Yes, she broke the law, and being stranded in Miramichi is NOT a punishment prescribed in the law for the offences she committed. You commit an offence, you face the punishment-which she did. Stranding her in Miramichi is not part of that punishment. Also, I doubt either of these were crimes, for the record (if you don't know the difference, go use google).

David Amos

@Jay Oak Methinks he would be singing a different tune if it had happened it him N'esy Pas?

Shawn McShane

The silver lining in this story is the truck drivers.

David Amos

@Shawn McShane YUP

Ushara Blue

Only one comment. If they picked her up in Fredericton, then they should have dropped her off in Fredericton. How in hell did they expect her to get home on a holiday Monday with no transportation? I'm just totally disgusted.

Bob Holgate

@William Roberts
Never been to jail myself, but if so that would be the solution.Call some one you know. Looking at many posting here, I guess they want taxpayers to offer a free ride to where ever for every one released.

David Amos

@Bob Holgate Why do wealthy dudes judge others without walking a mile in their shoes? FYI Some poor folks don't know folks with cars and everybody knows most rich folks don't like hitchhikers In fact your political heroes made it illegal to hitch a ride on certain roads in "The Place to Be" N'esy Pas?

William Roberts

Of course the tax payer should be morally responsible to see that everyone get home safe and sound and with a vetted escort regardless of circumstances. Really sounds like a great job creation program. Court appearances should also be covered. Leave your car at home. We will get you there and back. Lets's extend that to family visits as well and moral support during hearings should also come into play without bias for income or gender.
Only in that perfect world where crime and punishment did not exist!!!

Douglas James

@William Roberts Yes, society has a moral responsibility to protect the vulnerable, not to put them into danger.

William Roberts

@Douglas James "The vulnerable...." Perhaps you may want to consider the real victims here as well?

Content disabled.
David Amos

@William Roberts The Taxpayers are always victims too because they pay for this nonsense of cops in a wealthy city versus panhandling folks collecting welfare. It is just that simple.

Content disabled.
David Amos

@William Roberts Well I told you the truth about this nonsense but CBC blocked it as usual Surprise Surprise

David Amos

@Douglas James "Yes, society has a moral responsibility to protect the vulnerable, not to put them into danger."

Imagine me agreeing so much with a former CBC dude?

Douglas James

@William Roberts And who might they be Mr. Roberts?

David Amos

@Douglas James The taxpayers

David Amos

@William Roberts "Really sounds like a great job creation program. Court appearances should also be covered. Leave your car at home. We will get you there and back. Lets's extend that to family visits as well and moral support during hearings should also come into play without bias for income or gender."

Methinks that the ghost of Che Guevara is as confused as I am as to why you use his face to make you points Perhaps you are a union dude working for the Sheriff N'esy Pas?

Douglas James

I am beginning to understand why more people don't move to or stay in New Brunswick.

Dave Anderson

@Douglas James
There is a lot that belong in jail or care that are not in jail or care. Real issue is who pays for problems when they get this big.

David Amos

@Dave Anderson The same folks who always do The Taxpayers

David Amos

@Douglas James The elephant in the province that makes no room for anyone else has a name. Mr Roberts or CBC won't say it but I do all the time The Elephant's name is Irving

William Roberts

@David Amos LOL I have often been accused of being an Irving Basher. You must have missed that. Maybe Irving will drive these released criminals home. Wonder what that would cost us in subs and tax breaks?

David Amos

@William Roberts It looks to me that you are applying to the Liberals to be appointed a judge in New Brunswick

Tony Petrocelli

Anyone who thinks it is ok for the state to put the lives of those in their custody in danger, no matter who and how callous they are in need of medical attention.

Joe Allaire

@William Roberts, it was the state that trucked her over two hours away from her home city and then left her stranded.

David Amos

@Joe Allaire YUP

William Roberts

@BobbyTaylor Had she made an attempt to pay the fine she could have avoided the whole ordeal. Her inaction resulted in consequences are are grossly exaggerated here.
Option #1...don't do the crime.
Option #2..... pay your fines.
Option #3.... call a friend!
You cannot just ignore the law in NB and think there is no legal recourse.

David Amos

@William Roberts Methinks its rather comical to see Che Guevara face as you pound on the law of a capitalist democracy that he had no respect for whatsoever N'esy Pas?

Tony Petrocelli

The consequences of not paying fines is jail time, not being fed to the wolves.

Joe Allaire

@Tony Petrocelli, anyone thinking otherwise would fit better in some banana republic.

David Amos

@Joe Allaire Ahh but Brooke Lane has her beloved policies that all we need to get educated about ASAP

Hassen Boussida

I'm very disgusted. I'm asking myself where are the Human Rights ? Where are the rights of the accused ?It's really a sad story . It gets worse when we realize that we are talking about The U.S.A . Many guarantees are there ; in the U.S Constitution 1789 ; in Miranda Rights 1966 and in The Code of Conduct for Law Enforcement Officials adopted by General Assembly resolution 34/169 of 17 December 1979. Whose responsibility is it ?. It's really a shame on both correctional facilities and Law Enforcement Officials. Are there any Human Rights activists or Civil Society organizations to denounce this failure in duty?

David Amos

@Hassen Boussida Dream on about the Yankee Constitution Ever heard of the Patriot Act? I as a Proud Canadian have been falsely arrested in the USA without my Miranda Rights kicking in. I was held in solitary confinement under the charges of "other" with no bail. This was done after I ran in the election of the 38th Parliament Need I say that the Canadain Department of Foreign Affairs got read the Riot Act when they visited me in the Yankee jail and laughed at my predicament?

Fess Allaire

Just the fact that some commenters on here have the right to vote sure gives democracy a bad name.

David Amos

@Fess Allaire Presume that includes you? FYI I didn't get my right to vote back until after the election of the 42 Parliament (which I ran in) So don't blame me for the malicious actions of any questionable governmental mandate.

Paul Gryba

Canada is great country ! Is this post ok?

David Amos

@Paul Gryba OK by me

Lynn Ronan

No matter what this lady did, which sounds quite minimal, the officers acted very unprofessionally and put this women's life at risk. Thanks to the gentleman who helped her.

David Amos

@Lynn Ronan Thats it in a nutshell

Domenick Yoney

This might be a good time to address obvious failings with the system. No one should have to travel hundreds of miles to spend a night in jail for a couple hundred dollars in unpaid fines, for starters.

David Amos

@Domenick Yoney The government must have its money so by doing so they put the scare into all the others to pay their fines.

David Amos

@Domenick Yoney Methinks one of the real sins here is that the bus ticket back home is almost as much as the fine We are all victims of that fee N'esy Pas?

David Amos

I truly believe in the end when we boil this down what is at issue here is Fredericton's ongoing war with the folks collecting welfare and being panhandlers downtown in their spare time.

Fredericton woman says jail staff left her stranded at gas station on outskirts

Serena Woods was left to fend for herself after being released from the Miramichi jail over Family Day weekend

CBC News Posted: Mar 15, 2018 4:00 AM AT

Serena Woods says correctional staff abandoned her at a gas station outside Miramichi on Family Day weekend, leaving her to find her way back to Fredericton at night, with less than $20 in her pocket.

Woods said she was brought to the New Brunswick Women's Correctional Centre in Miramichi for failing to pay two $100 fines.

'They told me it wasn't a hotel and I was to go home.' - Serena Woods

One fine was for breaching a court order, the other for not paying a victim surcharge.

She didn't have the money to pay, so Fredericton police put her in a holding cell overnight.

Since Fredericton police say they aren't allowed to hold someone more than 24 hours, Woods was transferred by sheriffs to the Miramichi jail.

It was late in the afternoon on Family Day.

When Woods arrived at the jail, she said, she was told her fine was deemed paid because of the time she'd already spent in custody. She was told she didn't have to stay in the jail and could go home.

Serena Woods was left to find her own way home from jail

00:00 01:18

Serena Woods was left to find her own way home from jail1:18

But instead of taking her back to Fredericton, sheriffs, who transport prisoners to jail and to court, drove Woods to a gas station and told her she could hitchhike home.

"They told me they couldn't keep me because it wasn't a hotel," she said. "And I would have gladly stayed the one night, just to get a ride home, shackled and everything. But no, they told me it wasn't a hotel and I was to go home.

"They just stood there and said, 'You got to go now.'"

Stranded overnight

A copy of the receipt for Woods's fine, which the Miramichi jail deemed was paid because of time served. (Catherine Harrop/CBC )

Woods's fine receipt says it was printed at 4:25 p.m. on Feb. 19, a holiday Monday.

It was evening when sheriffs dropped her off at the Circle K in Miramichi, she said.

Bus service from Miramichi to Fredericton is once a day — at 9:40 a.m.

Tickets also cost $77.20.

Trucker helps her out

Woods only had $18 at the time.

She watched for someone she felt safe to drive with and got a ride from a trucker heading to Moncton.

Stranded at the Shell station just outside Moncton at 10 p.m., she was picked up by trucker Victor Poirier.

He gave her a place to sleep, paid for her breakfast and, with his company's approval, took her to Fredericton on his day's run.

Trucker Victor Poirier gave Woods a ride to Fredericton from Moncton. (CBC )

"Somewheres along the line, people have to treat people like human beings," Poirier said. "So when I seen she needed help, I gave her the help that she needed."

Poirier later contacted Charles LeBlanc, a local blogger, who first publicized her story.

Province won't comment

In an emailed statement, the Department of Justice said it will not speak about individual cases, even with permission.

Spokesperson Danielle Elliott instead sent the rules governing the release of a prisoner.

The rules say correctional staff will try to help prisoners find family or community resources, but transportation upon their release is the responsibility of the offender.

With files from Catherine Harrop

Minister doesn't want anyone else stranded at night by jail staff

Serena Woods was abandoned at Miramichi gas station at night with only $18 after being released from jail

CBC News Posted: Mar 16, 2018 6:00 PM AT

New Brunswick's minister of justice and public safety indicated Friday that he's following up on a Fredericton woman's complaint that she was abandoned by corrections staff at a gas station outside Miramichi on Family Day and left to find her way home at night with $18 in her pocket.

"We're going to look at what can be done so this doesn't happen in the future," Dennis Landry said in French when he was questioned in the legislature about the case of Serena Woods.

He said he could not discuss specific cases and made no other comment about Woods's account.

Fredericton woman says jail staff left her stranded at gas station on outskirts

Earlier this week, Woods told CBC News she was fined $100 for breaching a court order and $100 for not paying a victim fine surcharge but didn't have the money to pay. Fredericton police put her in a holding cell overnight.

But because police aren't allowed to hold someone more than 24 hours, she was transferred by sheriffs to the New Brunswick Women's Correctional Centre in Miramichi.

By the time she got there, however, her fines were deemed paid because of the time she had already spent in custody.

Justice and Public Safety minister Denis Landry says institution staff don't have a world of resources at their disposal. (CBC News )

Jail staff dropped her off at a gas station, which doubles as a bus station, but the bus comes only once a day, at 9:40 a.m.

It was already after 4:30 p.m. and she wouldn't have been able to pay the $77.20 fare anyway.

Woods said she voiced her concerns about not having a way to get home to Fredericton, but the corrections staff gave her a Google Maps printout and suggested she hitchhike the estimated 200 kilometres.

Landry said Friday that transportation upon release is an offender's responsibility.

Institution staff can help individuals find a community program, community organizations or family members to help them get home, but staff don't have a world of resources, said Landry.

Woods said staff gave her the phone number for a women's shelter, but when she called she was told it was only for abused women.

Policy changes needed

New Brunswick's ombudsman contends the case illustrates the need for policy changes.

Charles Murray says staff might have been following policy, but Woods was put in a potentially dangerous situation.

"I think at the heart of it all was there was a failure as human beings to recognize the vulnerability of this woman caused by her poverty," he said.

For some people, being stranded might be an inconvenience, but they would have the means to find a way home, said Murray. Woods didn't.

Ombudsman Charles Murray said a number of people involved in the case 'did their jobs - and did only their jobs.' (CBC)

"Our duty to protect her and care for her and to just treat her with respect as a human being, we just didn't discharge it," he said.

Instead, two Good Samaritan truck drivers came to Woods's rescue and got her home safely.

"So the disturbing question is, how is it that the private company and the supervisor that approved that were able to find a way to do the thing that we, as New Brunswickers, would want, but that our government, the department that we hire to reflect our values, missed it so badly?

"And that's where I think we have to have some really hard reflection on how we can do better," said Murray.

Take the extra step

Serena Woods was left to find her own way home from jail

00:00 01:18

Serena Woods was left to find her own way home from jail1:18

The minister, premier and MLAs need to ask themselves if jail staff did the right thing in this particular situation, if they're comfortable with their conduct and whether it reflects the values of New Brunswickers, he said.

"If the answer to that is no — and I think it should be, and if I know those people it is — then it's on them now to provide direction to the department and to the employees to ensure that in cases like this, the extra step is taken" to ensure a vulnerable person is safe.

'Are we basically prepared to tell them, 'Look, the system is going to continue to process you and you're going to spend another night in jail until you get the message — stop being poor.' - Charles Murray, ombudsman

In Woods's case, a simple call to the Department of Social Development's emergency line, the Elizabeth Fry Society, or any one of the numerous charities in the community could have resolved the situation, said Murray.

He also noted that a phone call before transporting Woods from Fredericton to Miramichi could have "saved everyone a lot of trouble" if officials realized she was going to be released as soon as she got there.