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David Amos
David Amos
Mr. Amos seeks intervenor status in Matter 375. NB Power objects to his intervention claiming his conduct during the hearing of a motion in Matter 357 was confrontational and that his arguments lacked any connection to the issues before the Board. The Board agrees with that assessment.
In the present matter, Mr. Amos was given ample opportunity to put forward a case that would support a respectful and responsible intervention. He failed to do so, rolling forward issues raised in Matter 357 and not addressing the issue before us today.
Mr. Amos states that the interests he would bring before the Board are those raised by Mr. Bourque and Mr. Richard. The Board is satisfied that those two intervenors can adequately represent those issues. In addition, those issues will undoubtedly be addressed by the Public Intervenor and others.
The Board finds on a balance of probability that Mr. Amos will not participate in this matter in a respectful and responsible manner. As a result, the Board will exercise its discretion and refuse intervenor status to Mr. Amos. Intervention is encouraged but it must be responsible.
Mr. Amos may participate in the public session which date will be announced shortly. But again he is reminded that any presentation must be done in a respectful and responsible manner.
Finally, Mr. Amos had indicated that he wished to assist his two colleagues that are sitting with him today. And certainly the Board has no issue with that at all. But Mr. Amos will have no status at the hearing in terms of cross-examination or making any argument.
NB Power cuts proposed rate hike to 1.5% after Point Lepreau settlement
Most commercial customers would pay a smaller increase of 0.68%
· CBC News · Posted: Apr 05, 2018 1:40 PM AT
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David Amos
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive!"
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IN THE MATTER OF an application by New Brunswick Power Corporation for approval of the schedules of the rates for the fiscal year commencing April 1, 2018. held at the Delta Hotel Saint John, New Brunswick, on October 31, 2017.
CHAIRMAN: So just I guess going down the list of things that we need to talk about, the confidentiality agreement has been circulated. Also there was a three line explanation of the changes in this confidentiality agreement from previous confidentiality agreements. So I don't know if the parties have had enough time to consider the form of that agreement or not or have any comments. So I will just go down through the list. Mr. Amos, have you looked at the agreement?
MR. AMOS: Yes. I had just a -- I had a quick glance at it and I had an issue with it in the 357 matter.
CHAIRMAN: Yes.
MR. AMOS: And I sent an email to Mr. Furey, et cetera, and I said don't give me anything that's confidential, and therefore I can't be accused of disclosing something I shouldn't.
CHAIRMAN: Okay. So --
MR. AMOS: He never answered me.
CHAIRMAN: Okay. So your position really is you are not signing it no matter what form it's in if it requires you to keep information --
MR. AMOS: This is a public hearing. This is a publicly owned corporation billing the public, and if you don't want the public to know something, then I don't want to know.
CHAIRMAN: I understand. So you don't have a position of the form itself. You are not going to sign a confidentiality document.
MR. AMOS: I find the form offensive in and of itself.
IN THE MATTER OF an application by New Brunswick Power Corporation for approval of the schedules of the rates for the fiscal year commencing April 1, 2018. held at the Delta Hotel Saint John, New Brunswick, on October 31, 2017.
CHAIRMAN: So just I guess going down the list of things that we need to talk about, the confidentiality agreement has been circulated. Also there was a three line explanation of the changes in this confidentiality agreement from previous confidentiality agreements. So I don't know if the parties have had enough time to consider the form of that agreement or not or have any comments. So I will just go down through the list. Mr. Amos, have you looked at the agreement?
MR. AMOS: Yes. I had just a -- I had a quick glance at it and I had an issue with it in the 357 matter.
CHAIRMAN: Yes.
MR. AMOS: And I sent an email to Mr. Furey, et cetera, and I said don't give me anything that's confidential, and therefore I can't be accused of disclosing something I shouldn't.
CHAIRMAN: Okay. So --
MR. AMOS: He never answered me.
CHAIRMAN: Okay. So your position really is you are not signing it no matter what form it's in if it requires you to keep information --
MR. AMOS: This is a public hearing. This is a publicly owned corporation billing the public, and if you don't want the public to know something, then I don't want to know.
CHAIRMAN: I understand. So you don't have a position of the form itself. You are not going to sign a confidentiality document.
MR. AMOS: I find the form offensive in and of itself.
David Amos
@David Amos
CHAIRMAN: All right. I will now give the decision of the Board on this matter. Mr. Amos seeks intervenor status in Matter 375. NB Power objects to his intervention claiming his conduct during the hearing of a motion in Matter 357 was confrontational and that his arguments lacked any connection to the issues before the Board. The Board agrees with that assessment.
In the present matter, Mr. Amos was given ample opportunity to put forward a case that would support a respectful and responsible intervention. He failed to do so, rolling forward issues raised in Matter 357 and not addressing the issue before us today.
Mr. Amos states that the interests he would bring before the Board are those raised by Mr. Bourque and Mr. Richard. The Board is satisfied that those two intervenors can adequately represent those issues. In addition, those issues will undoubtedly be addressed by the Public Intervenor and others.
The Board finds on a balance of probability that Mr. Amos will not participate in this matter in a respectful and responsible manner. As a result, the Board will exercise its discretion and refuse intervenor status to Mr. Amos. Intervention is encouraged but it must be responsible.
Mr. Amos may participate in the public session which date will be announced shortly. But again he is reminded that any presentation must be done in a respectful and responsible manner.
Finally, Mr. Amos had indicated that he wished to assist his two colleagues that are sitting with him today. And certainly the Board has no issue with that at all. But Mr. Amos will have no status at the hearing in terms of cross-examination or making any argument.
Roy Kirk
June Arnott
Bernard Cormier
David Amos
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From: "Connelly Bosse, Natacha" <NConnellyBosse@nbpower.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2018 17:44:50 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: EXT - "The board would like to hear submissions from
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Subject: RE: "The board would like to hear submissions from every party regarding what I'm raising." YEA RIGHT NOW THATS PRETTY FUNNY EH JOHNNY "NEVER BEEN GOOD" LOGAN?
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Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 11:28:30 +0000
Subject: RE: "The board would like to hear submissions from every
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From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2018 13:44:46 -0400
Subject: "The board would like to hear submissions from every party
regarding what I'm raising." YEA RIGHT NOW THATS PRETTY FUNNY
@CTVAtlantic Deja Vu for you sneaky dudes
"For example NB Power
revealed it is not sharing all of the savings with customers, instead
keeping an unknown amount for itself to boost profits."
===
Windfall gains like this get split between the owners and customers. A somewhat different approach than they proposed for windfall losses (like storm damage). ;-)
===
Windfall gains like this get split between the owners and customers. A somewhat different approach than they proposed for windfall losses (like storm damage). ;-)
David Amos
@Roy Kirk Good Point
Furthermore how can they consider it a boost in profits when in fact they have failed in recovering a monumental loss and had to stop because the lawyers were picking us clean with their legal fees?
Furthermore how can they consider it a boost in profits when in fact they have failed in recovering a monumental loss and had to stop because the lawyers were picking us clean with their legal fees?
Fred Brewer
"NB Power revealed it is not
sharing all of the savings with customers, instead keeping an unknown
amount for itself to boost profits. "
Now we know why NB Power wants to keep the settlement terms confidential. We would likely be outraged by the amount going towards executive bonuses.
Now we know why NB Power wants to keep the settlement terms confidential. We would likely be outraged by the amount going towards executive bonuses.
David Amos
@Fred Brewer Methinks we may be upset at how little they settled for N'esy Pas?
stephen blunston
@David Amos outraged at all the waste at NB power and in NB in general
June Arnott
When is enough enough!!
These people do not know how to run this business effectively. And now
they are going to be giving money to the execs, because they are doing
such an awful job.
David Amos
@June Arnott "When is enough enough!!"
Methinks it won't happen in this election year N'esy Pas?
Methinks it won't happen in this election year N'esy Pas?
Archie Levesque
They need the extra money for their bonuses for doing fantastic work for the people of NB
David Amos
@Archie Levesque Don't you feel honoured to have such clever people working for us?
Bernard Cormier
It is easier to pay the few dollars a month more than to be upset about it. Negative frame of mind will just wear you out.
David Amos
@Bernard Cormier Methinks that may be one of the reasons why Harper called Maritimers defeatists a long time ago N'esy Pas?
Alexandre Hilton
@Bernard Cormier The absolute state of Capitalism. Ignorance truly is bliss.
David Amos
"It also disclosed that some
of the savings are not related to lower debt but are coming from an end
to substantial annual legal fees it has been paying to pursue a
settlement."
Methinks I was right about lawyers N'esy Pas?
Methinks I was right about lawyers N'esy Pas?
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From: "Connelly Bosse, Natacha" <NConnellyBosse@nbpower.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2018 17:44:50 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: EXT - "The board would like to hear submissions from
every party regarding what I'm raising." YEA RIGHT NOW THATS PRETTY FUNNY
EH JOHNNY "NEVER BEEN GOOD" LOGAN?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Hi, Please note that I will beaway from the office until April 23rd
inclusively with some access to email. I will reply to your message
upon my return.
Bonjour, Veuillez noter que je serai absente du bureau jusqu'au 23
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Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 11:28:30 +0000
Subject: RE: "The board would like to hear submissions from every
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JOHNNY "NEVER BEEN GOOD" LOGAN?
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From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2018 13:44:46 -0400
Subject: "The board would like to hear submissions from every party
regarding what I'm raising." YEA RIGHT NOW THATS PRETTY FUNNY
EH JOHNNY "NEVER BEEN GOOD" LOGAN?
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JOHN B D LOGAN
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CHAIRMAN: I understand. So you don't have a position of the form itself. You are not going to sign a confidentiality document.
MR. AMOS: I find the form offensive in and of itself.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-financial-details-1.4609442
NB Power's bid to hide financial details met with opposition from EUB
'Heavily redacted' document tries to hide NB Power's financial future following settlement
NB Power's bid to hide significant details of its finances, including projected profit and debt levels for the next 10 years, as part of an effort to keep the value of an insurance settlement secret, ran into opposition at its rate hearing Friday.
"Those documents are heavily redacted," said Energy and Utilities Board vice chairman Francois Beaulieu about evidence attached to a new rate proposal being made by the NB Power that also withholds critical information about the utility's true financial condition.
- NB Power cuts proposed rate hike to 1.5% after Point Lepreau settlement
- NB Power ordered to provide limited disclosure on settlement payouts
- NB Power says public best kept in dark over Lepreau refurbishment settlement
"I think the parties should have a discussion about this issue and if there's anything that should be unredacted," said Beaulieu about the hidden financial information.
"The board would like to hear submissions from every party regarding what I'm raising."
Redacted
The settlement is the
result of a six-year legal fight with insurance companies to recover
part of the $1 billion in cost overruns suffered by NB Power during the
Point Lepreau nuclear generating station refurbishment.
It argues that is critical to keeping the total settlement amount secret as it pursues another claim against the refurbishment contractor, Atomic Energy of Canada Ltd (AECL)
"The rationale behind all of the redactions is that the information that is redacted combined with information that is unredacted would enable a third party to calculate with reasonable accuracy the amount of the settlement," said NB Power lawyer John Furey
'We can't even see the bottom line'
Chris
Rouse, a self-represented intervener in the hearing complained on
Twitter that the secrecy placed on debt levels and profit targets, to
help hide the size of the insurance settlement, was robbing the public
of critical financial information about the power company.
Later in the hearing room Rouse made his point directly to the EUB and expressed regret the hearing had agreed to NB Power's request to keep the insurance settlement secret without an understanding of how that would drag other information into the dark.
"It's really difficult to partake in a rate hearing not knowing what net earnings are," said Rouse.
"If I had known that was at stake with the confidentiality agreement I probably would have argued that a lot differently. Lesson learned."
NB Power to provide explanation privately
Following
a two-hour private meeting among hearing participants to sort out
problems, Furey acknowledged to the board there was concern among some
about the extent of the financial information NB Power is proposing to
withhold about itself.
He said if either one does not accept the explanation, the issue can be battled out in front of the board itself.
"If we're unable to demonstrate that to them I would expect they would bring forward some form of objection to the board."
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From: "Gallant, Premier Brian (PO/CPM)" <Brian.Gallant@gnb.ca>
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 14:56:45 +0000
Subject: RE: Mr Jones I did something unusual between you and I and said Good Day
to you before I attended the Public
Interest Hearing of the NBEUB 375 Matter on Tuesday
Correct?
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From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 10:56:40 -0400
Subject: Mr Jones I did something unusual between you and I and said Good Day to you
before I attended the Public
Interest Hearing of the NBEUB 375 Matter on Tuesday Correct?
To: "Robert. Jones" <Robert.Jones@cbc.ca>, "darrow.macintyre" <darrow.macintyre@cbc.ca>, "sylvie.gadoury" <sylvie.gadoury@radio-canada. ca>,
"Bill.Morneau" <Bill.Morneau@canada.ca>,
"brian.gallant" <brian.gallant@gnb.ca>, premier <premier@gnb.ca>,
"rick.doucet" <rick.doucet@gnb.ca>, "Jack.Keir" <Jack.Keir@gnb.ca>,
"greg.byrne" <greg.byrne@gnb.ca>, "blaine.higgs" <blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>,
"Dominic.Cardy" <Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca>, "David.Coon" <David.Coon@gnb.ca>, NBEUB/CESPNB <general@nbeub.ca>, cra.minister-ministre.arc@cra. gc.ca, david.sollows@gnb.ca,
cstewart@stewartmckelvey.com, jfurey@nbpower.com, lcozzarini@nbpower.com,
wharrison@nbpower.com, srussell@nbpower.com,
NConnellyBosse@nbpower.com, NBPRegulatory@nbpower.com,
John.Lawton@nbeub.ca,
ecdesmond@nbeub.ca, Michael.Dickie@nbeub.ca,
Dave.Young@nbeub.ca
To: "Robert. Jones" <Robert.Jones@cbc.ca>, "darrow.macintyre" <darrow.macintyre@cbc.ca>, "sylvie.gadoury" <sylvie.gadoury@radio-canada.
"brian.gallant" <brian.gallant@gnb.ca>, premier <premier@gnb.ca>,
"rick.doucet" <rick.doucet@gnb.ca>, "Jack.Keir" <Jack.Keir@gnb.ca>,
"greg.byrne" <greg.byrne@gnb.ca>, "blaine.higgs" <blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>,
"Dominic.Cardy" <Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca>, "David.Coon" <David.Coon@gnb.ca>, NBEUB/CESPNB <general@nbeub.ca>, cra.minister-ministre.arc@cra.
Cc:
David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com> ,
"michael.dixon" <michael.dixon@blakes.com>,
"Jacques.Poitras" <Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>, oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>,
"michael.dixon" <michael.dixon@blakes.com>,
"Jacques.Poitras" <Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>, oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>,
andre <andre@jafaust.com>,
jbosnitch <jbosnitch@gmail.com>
I bet you wondered why I did that after ignoring you all the other times EH?
FYI I did not bother to send to the CBC what I sent the questionable
lawyers before and during the hearing on Tuesday until I read your
spin on the matter today. There was no need anyway because I quite
simply don't exist to you snobby CBC dudes N'esy Pas?
However within the EUB Tuesday a whole other kettle of fish was argued
and it stunk to the high heavens to anyone ethical enough to pay
attention and respond to the fancy double talking lawyers.
So to that end Mr. Jones feel free to scroll through to bottom of an
old email found within this blog when you are bored for a little Deja
Vu. However it is the top portion that I will lay odds that have
caused Mr Furey and Mr. Dixon to be cursing me right about now
http://davidraymondamos3. blogspot.ca/2018/04/nb-power- and-lawyers-such-as-michael. html
Thursday, 5 April 2018
NB Power and lawyers such as Michael Dixon like to keep secrets from
us but I see no reason to act like they do N'esy Pas?
Just so ya know I will be posting this email warts and all at the top
of this blog ASAP then Tweeting about it ASAP
http://davidraymondamos3. blogspot.ca/2018/04/i-bet-nb- power-and-many-lawyers-such- as.html
I bet you wondered why I did that after ignoring you all the other times EH?
FYI I did not bother to send to the CBC what I sent the questionable
lawyers before and during the hearing on Tuesday until I read your
spin on the matter today. There was no need anyway because I quite
simply don't exist to you snobby CBC dudes N'esy Pas?
However within the EUB Tuesday a whole other kettle of fish was argued
and it stunk to the high heavens to anyone ethical enough to pay
attention and respond to the fancy double talking lawyers.
So to that end Mr. Jones feel free to scroll through to bottom of an
old email found within this blog when you are bored for a little Deja
Vu. However it is the top portion that I will lay odds that have
caused Mr Furey and Mr. Dixon to be cursing me right about now
http://davidraymondamos3.
Thursday, 5 April 2018
NB Power and lawyers such as Michael Dixon like to keep secrets from
us but I see no reason to act like they do N'esy Pas?
Just so ya know I will be posting this email warts and all at the top
of this blog ASAP then Tweeting about it ASAP
http://davidraymondamos3.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-energy-and-utilities-board-1.4606382
NB Power cuts proposed rate hike to 1.5% after Point Lepreau settlement
Most commercial customers would pay a smaller increase of 0.68%
· CBC News · Posted: Apr 05, 2018 1:40 PM AT
NB Power is lowering this year's average
rate increase from two per cent to 1.5 per cent, according to documents
filed with the Energy and Utilities Board.
The utility officially applied to the Energy and Utilities Board on Thursday to lower its proposed increase to "reflect the impact of the settlement" it reached with insurance companies late last month over cost overruns during the Lepreau nuclear refurbishment.
The utility now proposes most customers, including residential customers, pay increases of 1.64 per cent, with most commercial customers paying smaller increases of just 0.68 per cent.
In a redacted filing explaining how the settlement money is being applied, NB Power indicated it has transferred the amount to debt owed on the Point Lepreau nuclear plant and will be sharing part of the subsequent savings in principal and interest payment with customers.
"The cash received has reduced debt immediately, through a reduction in both short-term and long-term debt, which will reduce interest expense and the debt management portfolio fee," the utility wrote in a report explaining the proposed changes.
There are hints the insurance settlement is likely in excess of $100 million, given the size of the proposed rate reductions but the utility is withholding enough information to make a detailed estimate impossible to calculate.
The proposed rate cut will save NB Power customers an estimated $7.1 million a year in charges. That's close to the annual interest and principal payments on $100 million of Lepreau-related debt, suggesting the settlement amount may have reduced debt by that amount.
However, there are other unknown financial elements in the settlement that make this assumption unreliable.
For example NB Power revealed it is not sharing all of the savings with customers, instead keeping an unknown amount for itself to boost profits.
It also disclosed that some of the savings are not related to lower debt but are coming from an end to substantial annual legal fees it has been paying to pursue a settlement.
The utility officially applied to the Energy and Utilities Board on Thursday to lower its proposed increase to "reflect the impact of the settlement" it reached with insurance companies late last month over cost overruns during the Lepreau nuclear refurbishment.
The utility now proposes most customers, including residential customers, pay increases of 1.64 per cent, with most commercial customers paying smaller increases of just 0.68 per cent.
- NB Power's proposed residential rate hike may be too high, hearing told
- NB Power ordered to provide limited disclosure on settlement payouts
- NB Power says public best kept in dark over Lepreau refurbishment settlement
In a redacted filing explaining how the settlement money is being applied, NB Power indicated it has transferred the amount to debt owed on the Point Lepreau nuclear plant and will be sharing part of the subsequent savings in principal and interest payment with customers.
"The cash received has reduced debt immediately, through a reduction in both short-term and long-term debt, which will reduce interest expense and the debt management portfolio fee," the utility wrote in a report explaining the proposed changes.
There are hints the insurance settlement is likely in excess of $100 million, given the size of the proposed rate reductions but the utility is withholding enough information to make a detailed estimate impossible to calculate.
Large savings
The proposed rate cut will save NB Power customers an estimated $7.1 million a year in charges. That's close to the annual interest and principal payments on $100 million of Lepreau-related debt, suggesting the settlement amount may have reduced debt by that amount.
However, there are other unknown financial elements in the settlement that make this assumption unreliable.
For example NB Power revealed it is not sharing all of the savings with customers, instead keeping an unknown amount for itself to boost profits.
It also disclosed that some of the savings are not related to lower debt but are coming from an end to substantial annual legal fees it has been paying to pursue a settlement.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-provide-disclosure-1.4605427
NB Power ordered to provide limited disclosure on settlement payouts
Only Energy and Utilities Board and public intervener will have access to the information
NB
Power has been ordered to provide limited disclosure of what insurance
companies have agreed to pay it to settle claims from problems
encountered during the Point Lepreau nuclear plant refurbishment, but
that disclosure will be made only to the Energy and Utilities Board and
the public intervener.
"The sole consideration in this matter is whether the publication of the terms of settlement are necessary in the public interest," said EUB vice chairman Francois Beaulieu in a ruling Wednesday afternoon that then concluded full disclosure of the Lepreau settlement would not be best for anyone.
"The
nature of these outstanding claims and the potential impact of any
undue disclosure of the settlement terms would be detrimental to NB
Power's commercial interests which in turn would be detrimental to the
interests of its ratepayers," said Beaulieu
However, the EUB decided the deal would have to be shared in full with both it and public intervener Heather Black to ensure the utility is dealing with the settlement amounts properly and to the benefit of its ratepayers.
"The board is satisfied the public intervener's role is sufficient to ensure that the public interest will be served," said Beaulieu in delivering the decision.
But it was also a partial defeat for NB Power, which had asked that none of the details of the settlement be shared except for the total amount — and only with the EUB.
NB Power lawyer John Furey said he did not know how insurers would react to the limited disclosure ruling but warned if they take a hard line it could cause considerable problems for the rate hearing, which is already weeks behind schedule.
Although the utility does not plan to take any action, the companies' intentions were not immediately known.
"It would be our [NB Power's] intention to waive the 10-day rule," said Furey. "I do have to make contact with insurers to ensure that they are also willing to waive the 10-day rule."
Last week, Calgary lawyer Michael Dixon, acting for the insurance companies, which are mostly European, sent a letter to NB Power objecting to any disclosure of the settlement.
"The information is not merely confidential and sensitive it is also privileged," wrote Dixon.
Although the settlement amount is unknown, NB Power has said it is large enough to affect how much of a rate increase it will need this year.
The utility was supposed to lower its original request for an average two per cent increase by Wednesday afternoon at 4:30 p.m., but uncertainly over how insurance companies will react to the EUB's ruling caused NB Power to miss that deadline.
The rate hearing began Feb. 7 and was supposed to conclude Feb. 23 with new rates in place by April 1. Instead, the hearing is now six weeks behind schedule with no immediate end in sight.
On Wednesday, Beaulieu said scheduling conflicts mean any further delays could push the hearings into May, June or possibly July before all of the evidence is heard.
"The sole consideration in this matter is whether the publication of the terms of settlement are necessary in the public interest," said EUB vice chairman Francois Beaulieu in a ruling Wednesday afternoon that then concluded full disclosure of the Lepreau settlement would not be best for anyone.
- NB Power says public best kept in dark over Lepreau refurbishment settlement
- Despite not knowing proposed rate increase, EUB pushes on with hearing
- NB Power says it needs lower rate increase after settlement with insurers
The insurance companies also want details kept secret as they too fight with AECL over claims it has made against them.
However, the EUB decided the deal would have to be shared in full with both it and public intervener Heather Black to ensure the utility is dealing with the settlement amounts properly and to the benefit of its ratepayers.
"The board is satisfied the public intervener's role is sufficient to ensure that the public interest will be served," said Beaulieu in delivering the decision.
Defeat for JD Irving Ltd.
The ruling was a defeat for NB Power's largest customer — JD Irving Ltd. — which had asked to view the settlement details on a confidential basis as part of its participation in the utility's ongoing rate hearing.But it was also a partial defeat for NB Power, which had asked that none of the details of the settlement be shared except for the total amount — and only with the EUB.
NB Power lawyer John Furey said he did not know how insurers would react to the limited disclosure ruling but warned if they take a hard line it could cause considerable problems for the rate hearing, which is already weeks behind schedule.
Furey
said legal rules grant both NB Power and insurance companies 10 days to
decide whether to challenge the board ruling in court.
"It would be our [NB Power's] intention to waive the 10-day rule," said Furey. "I do have to make contact with insurers to ensure that they are also willing to waive the 10-day rule."
Last week, Calgary lawyer Michael Dixon, acting for the insurance companies, which are mostly European, sent a letter to NB Power objecting to any disclosure of the settlement.
"The information is not merely confidential and sensitive it is also privileged," wrote Dixon.
Could affect rate increase
Although the settlement amount is unknown, NB Power has said it is large enough to affect how much of a rate increase it will need this year.
The utility was supposed to lower its original request for an average two per cent increase by Wednesday afternoon at 4:30 p.m., but uncertainly over how insurance companies will react to the EUB's ruling caused NB Power to miss that deadline.
The rate hearing began Feb. 7 and was supposed to conclude Feb. 23 with new rates in place by April 1. Instead, the hearing is now six weeks behind schedule with no immediate end in sight.
On Wednesday, Beaulieu said scheduling conflicts mean any further delays could push the hearings into May, June or possibly July before all of the evidence is heard.
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