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Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 19:29:12 +0000
Subject: RE: Everybody knows I am one of many Canadians who don't believe the spin on
From: "MinFinance / FinanceMin (FIN)" <fin.minfinance-financemin.
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 19:29:12 +0000
Subject: RE: Everybody knows I am one of many Canadians who don't believe the spin on
climate change I consider it just
another scheme in order to tax us even more N'esy Pas?
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Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 12:23:57 -0700
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Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 12:23:57 -0700
Subject: Merci / Thank you Re: Everybody knows I am one of many Canadians who don't believe
the spin on climate change I
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N'esy Pas?
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From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 15:03:00 -0400
Subject: Everybody knows I am one of many Canadians who don't believe the spin on
climate change I consider it just another scheme in order to tax us even more N'esy Pas?
To: chair@ecofiscal.ca, dbeugin@ecofiscal.ca, adubreuil@ecofiscal.ca, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, "Gerald.Butts" <Gerald.Butts@pmo-cpm.gc.ca>, jesse <jesse@viafoura.com>,
"Jean-Yves.Duclos" <Jean-Yves.Duclos@parl.gc.ca>,
"andrew.scheer" <andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca>,
"maxime.bernier" <maxime.bernier@parl.gc.ca>,
"elizabeth.may" <elizabeth.may@parl.gc.ca>,
MulcaT <MulcaT@parl.gc.ca>, "bill.pentney" <bill.pentney@justice.gc.ca>,
"Nathalie.Drouin" <Nathalie.Drouin@justice.gc.ca>, "brian.gallant" <brian.gallant@gnb.ca>, "David.Coon" <David.Coon@gnb.ca>
Cc:
David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com> ,
"sylvie.gadoury" <sylvie.gadoury@radio-canada. ca>,
andre <andre@jafaust.com>,
"Dominic.Cardy" <Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca>, "ht.lacroix" <ht.lacroix@cbc.ca>,
"Dominic.Cardy" <Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca>, "ht.lacroix" <ht.lacroix@cbc.ca>,
"Bill.Morneau" <Bill.Morneau@canada.ca>, CRA.minister-ministre.ARC@cra- arc.gc.ca
https://ecofiscal.ca/contact- us/
http://www.cbc.ca/news/ politics/poll-abacus-carbon- tax-1.4603824
https://ecofiscal.ca/contact-
http://www.cbc.ca/news/
Nearly a third of Canadians don't believe humans, industry 'mostly' cause climate change: poll
'Without B.C.’s carbon tax, emissions would be five to 15 per cent higher than they are right now'
· CBC News · Posted: Apr 04, 2018 5:00 AM ET5994 Comments
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David Amos
Its truly amazing how many of
the most popular comments don't agree with the climate change/carbon tax
nonsense Yet the attacks on the aforementioned comments number about 10
to 1
Montgomery Galand
The party that promises to scrap all carbon taxes is the party that will have my vote.
David Amos
@Montgomery Galand Methinks
everybody knows I am one of many Canadians who don't believe the spin on
climate change I consider it just another scheme in order to tax us
even more N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@John Dunn "Solidly in the 30% group, I see.
By the number and type comments you make folks have no problem understanding which group you stand with. Methinks that is the group making a lot of money scaring the hell out folks while ignoring the irrefutable fact that the SUN causes climate change NOT Co2.
We need to combat the pollution for all the nasty crap that is being put into the air Methinks plant food ain't the big offender as your group claims so that the politicians can tax us more N'esy Pas?
Joe Mancini
People have become too smart for climate-fra ud to work on them.
I'd also say that there are at least 2/3 of Canadians who want nothing to do with this political BS and Carbon taxes that do nothing other than line the pockets of liberal politicians and their cronies in the green energy sc am industries.
I'd also say that there are at least 2/3 of Canadians who want nothing to do with this political BS and Carbon taxes that do nothing other than line the pockets of liberal politicians and their cronies in the green energy sc am industries.
Matt Thuaii
@Joe Mancini
Studies have shown that 1/3 of all drivers involved in fatal car crashes believed their vehicles were powered by wizardry rather than internal combustion.
Update: they’re still dead.
Studies have shown that 1/3 of all drivers involved in fatal car crashes believed their vehicles were powered by wizardry rather than internal combustion.
Update: they’re still dead.
David Amos
@Matt Thuaii That is not even remotely funny
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David Amos
@Joe Mancini "People have become too smart for climate-fra ud to work on them"
Trump and the Yankees pulled the pin on the carbon tax nonsense first. Just now folks up here are beginning to see the climate change con for what it truly is. Methinks once the "FordNation" rids Ontario of carbon tax the rest of the country will follow suit and Trudeau "The Younger" may become a one mandate PM who dressed funny. N'esy Pas?
Trump and the Yankees pulled the pin on the carbon tax nonsense first. Just now folks up here are beginning to see the climate change con for what it truly is. Methinks once the "FordNation" rids Ontario of carbon tax the rest of the country will follow suit and Trudeau "The Younger" may become a one mandate PM who dressed funny. N'esy Pas?
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David Amos
@Joe Mancini "People have become too smart for climate-fra ud to work on them."
I wonder how many other comments have been blocked for merely agreeing with you.
I wonder how many other comments have been blocked for merely agreeing with you.
David Amos
@David Amos Methinks CBC really hates it when I practice the fine art of politicking N'esy Pas?
Andrew Hebda (NS)
Climate change occurs.. it is a natural phenomenon. The point that is being missed in all the rhetoric is that we (humans) are having a measurable effect in the rate of that change. So discussion in in the context of "is it happening" is just diluting the facts and minimizing the debate. This is the first time that we have been able to detect and attribute changes on a global scale... something that we see on a local scale on a regular basis.
Keep the discussion focused and don't let special interest groups dictate the shape of the debate (on all sides).
Observe... think,,, then discuss... we are, after all, supposed to be a "thinking species", not just a target group for "grab-it and keep it" crows=d who benefit from the status quo (IMHO)
David Amos
@Andrew Hebda (NS)
"Observe... think,,, then discuss... we are, after all, supposed to be a
"thinking species", not just a target group for "grab-it and keep it"
crows=d who benefit from the status quo (IMHO)"
Well put Sir. Especially when if we disagree on certain things
Well put Sir. Especially when if we disagree on certain things
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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 13:06:20 -0400
Subject: RE My calls AGAIN today about WAR, MURDER, MONEY, TAXATION
and George Soros and Iggy versus Sebastian Kurz and Viktor Orbán etc
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 18:55:47 +0000
Subject: RE: RE My calls today about George Soros versus Sebastian
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Subject: Re: RE My calls today about George Soros versus Sebastian
Kurz and Viktor Orbán
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 15:11:34 -0400
Subject: Fwd: RE My calls today about George Soros versus Sebastian
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Subject: RE My calls today about George Soros versus Sebastian Kurz
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Sebastian Kurz
Verified account @sebastiankurz
6 hours ago
Konnte mich heute erstmals mit der Personalvertretung im
Bundeskanzleramt treffen. Danke für den guten Austausch - freue mich
sehr auf die Zusammenarbeit!
Translated from German by Bing
Could meet today for the first time with the staff in the Chancellor's
Office. Thank you for sharing good - look forward to cooperation!
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David Raymond Amos
@DavidRayAmos 5 hours ago
Replying to @sebastiankurz
Did anyone mention my name yet?
David Raymond Amos
@DavidRayAmos 8 hours ago
Replying to @sebastiankurz
I just called your Foreign Minister's Office +43 50 11 50 0 to offer
my assistance & his staff refused to listen Perhaps somebody under you
or Viktor Orban should call back 902 800 0369 so I can explain
@realDonaldTrump #FBI & missing hearing records ASAP
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From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 09:24:08 -0400
Subject: Fwd: ATTN Péter Szijjártó RE Trump and George Soros et al I have
been trying to talk to people working for Hungarian Prime Minister for years
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Subject: RE: ATTN Péter Szijjártó RE Trump and George Soros et al I have
been trying to talk to people working for Hungarian Prime Minister for years
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Subject: Re: ATTN Péter Szijjártó RE Trump and George Soros et al I have
been trying to talk to people working for Hungarian Prime Minister for years
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
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From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 08:07:54 -0400
Subject: ATTN Péter Szijjártó RE Trump and George Soros et al I have been
trying to talk to people working for Hungarian Prime Minister for years
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<George.Soros@
<Bill.Morneau@canada.ca>, mcohen <mcohen@trumporg.com>,
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Whereas you were appointed to State Secretary for Foreign Affairs and
External Economic Relations of the Prime Minister’s Office.you above
all should understand why I have an issue with Banksters since well
before George W Bush was first elected while Trump judged Beauty
Queens and managed marry one from your neck of the woods
http://thedavidamosrant.
Tuesday, 27 August 2013
Hungary Sheds Bankers' Shackles | By Ronald L. Ray
You are also saying some very important things lately about politcs
and George Soros and Donald Trump
BREAKING : George Soros ARREST On The Table ? Hungarian Foreign Minister
TNTV Total News T.V
Published on Jan 30, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?
HOWEVER SO AM I AND I DID CALL YOUR OFFICE TODAY FROM A POOR
CONNECTION AND WAS TOLD TO CALL THESE NUMBERS
36 1 458 1240
36 1 458 1844
PLEASE SCROLL DOWN OR CHECK YOUR TWITTER ACCOUNT AND MINE ASAP
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Subject: RE: Yo Billy Morneau RE FATCA and NAFTA Perhaps you and your
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to me before Trump and Trudeau upset the Mexicans even more EH?
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> From: "MinFinance / FinanceMin (FIN)"
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> Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 00:14:35 +000
> Subject: RE: Here ya go folks please enjoy the hearing today in
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> From: Póstur FOR postur@for.is
> Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 00:15:21 +0000
> Subject: Re: Here ya go folks please enjoy the hearing today in
> Federal Court and the notes I read from as I argued the Queen's sneaky
> little minions who think they are above the law and the rest of us as
> well
> To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>
> Erindi þitt hefur verið móttekið / Your request has been received
>
> Kveðja / Best regards
> Forsætisráðuneytið / Prime Minister's Office
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 09:32:09 -0400
> Subject: Attn Integrity Commissioner Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
> To: coi@gnb.ca
> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>
> Good Day Sir
>
> After I heard you speak on CBC I called your office again and managed
> to speak to one of your staff for the first time
>
> Please find attached the documents I promised to send to the lady who
> answered the phone this morning. Please notice that not after the Sgt
> at Arms took the documents destined to your office his pal Tanker
> Malley barred me in writing with an "English" only document.
>
> These are the hearings and the dockets in Federal Court that I
> suggested that you study closely.
>
> This is the docket in Federal Court
>
> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.
>
> These are digital recordings of the last three hearings
>
> Dec 14th https://archive.org/details/
>
> January 11th, 2016 https://archive.org/details/
>
> April 3rd, 2017
>
> https://archive.org/details/
>
>
> This is the docket in the Federal Court of Appeal
>
> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.
>
>
> The only hearing thus far
>
> May 24th, 2017
>
> https://archive.org/details/
>
>
> This Judge understnds the meaning of the word Integrity
>
> Date: 20151223
>
> Docket: T-1557-15
>
> Fredericton, New Brunswick, December 23, 2015
>
> PRESENT: The Honourable Mr. Justice Bell
>
> BETWEEN:
>
> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
>
> Plaintiff
>
> and
>
> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
>
> Defendant
>
> ORDER
>
> (Delivered orally from the Bench in Fredericton, New Brunswick, on
> December 14, 2015)
>
> The Plaintiff seeks an appeal de novo, by way of motion pursuant to
> the Federal Courts Rules (SOR/98-106), from an Order made on November
> 12, 2015, in which Prothonotary Morneau struck the Statement of Claim
> in its entirety.
>
> At the outset of the hearing, the Plaintiff brought to my attention a
> letter dated September 10, 2004, which he sent to me, in my then
> capacity as Past President of the New Brunswick Branch of the Canadian
> Bar Association, and the then President of the Branch, Kathleen Quigg,
> (now a Justice of the New Brunswick Court of Appeal). In that letter
> he stated:
>
> As for your past President, Mr. Bell, may I suggest that you check the
> work of Frank McKenna before I sue your entire law firm including you.
> You are your brother’s keeper.
>
> Frank McKenna is the former Premier of New Brunswick and a former
> colleague of mine at the law firm of McInnes Cooper. In addition to
> expressing an intention to sue me, the Plaintiff refers to a number of
> people in his Motion Record who he appears to contend may be witnesses
> or potential parties to be added. Those individuals who are known to
> me personally, include, but are not limited to the former Prime
> Minister of Canada, The Right Honourable Stephen Harper; former
> Attorney General of Canada and now a Justice of the Manitoba Court of
> Queen’s Bench, Vic Toews; former member of Parliament Rob Moore;
> former Director of Policing Services, the late Grant Garneau; former
> Chief of the Fredericton Police Force, Barry McKnight; former Staff
> Sergeant Danny Copp; my former colleagues on the New Brunswick Court
> of Appeal, Justices Bradley V. Green and Kathleen Quigg, and, retired
> Assistant Commissioner Wayne Lang of the Royal Canadian Mounted
> Police.
>
> In the circumstances, given the threat in 2004 to sue me in my
> personal capacity and my past and present relationship with many
> potential witnesses and/or potential parties to the litigation, I am
> of the view there would be a reasonable apprehension of bias should I
> hear this motion. See Justice de Grandpré’s dissenting judgment in
> Committee for Justice and Liberty et al v National Energy Board et al,
> [1978] 1 SCR 369 at p 394 for the applicable test regarding
> allegations of bias. In the circumstances, although neither party has
> requested I recuse myself, I consider it appropriate that I do so.
>
>
> AS A RESULT OF MY RECUSAL, THIS COURT ORDERS that the Administrator of
> the Court schedule another date for the hearing of the motion. There
> is no order as to costs.
>
> “B. Richard Bell”
> Judge
>
>
> Below after the CBC article about your concerns (I made one comment
> already) you will find the text of just two of many emails I had sent
> to your office over the years since I first visited it in 2006.
>
> I noticed that on July 30, 2009, he was appointed to the the Court
> Martial Appeal Court of Canada Perhaps you should scroll to the
> bottom of this email ASAP and read the entire Paragraph 83 of my
> lawsuit now before the Federal Court of Canada?
>
> "FYI This is the text of the lawsuit that should interest Trudeau the most
>
> http://davidraymondamos3.
>
> 83 The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war
> in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to
> allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over
> five years after he began his bragging:
>
> January 13, 2015
> This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate
>
> December 8, 2014
> Why Canada Stood Tall!
>
> Friday, October 3, 2014
> Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And
> Stupid Justin Trudeau?
>
>
> Vertias Vincit
> David Raymond Amos
> 902 800 0369
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Kulik, John" <john.kulik@mcinnescooper.com>
> Date: Thu, 18 May 2017 17:37:49 +0000
> Subject: McInnes Cooper
> To: "motomaniac333@gmail.com" <motomaniac333@gmail.com>,
> "david.raymond.amos@gmail.com" <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>
> Dear Mr. Amos:
>
> I am General Counsel for McInnes Cooper. If you need to communicate
> with our firm, please do so through me.
>
> Thank you.
>
> John Kulik
> [McInnes Cooper]<http://www.
>
> John Kulik Q.C.
> Partner & General Counsel
> McInnes Cooper
>
> tel +1 (902) 444 8571 | fax +1 (902) 425 6350
>
> 1969 Upper Water Street
> Suite 1300
> Purdy's Wharf Tower II Halifax, NS, B3J 2V1
>
> asst Cathy Ohlhausen | +1 (902) 455 8215
>
>
>
> Notice This communication, including any attachments, is confidential
> and may be protected by solicitor/client privilege. It is intended
> only for the person or persons to whom it is addressed. If you have
> received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by e-mail or
> telephone at McInnes Cooper's expense. Avis Les informations contenues
> dans ce courriel, y compris toute(s) pièce(s) jointe(s), sont
> confidentielles et peuvent faire l'objet d'un privilège avocat-client.
> Les informations sont dirigées au(x) destinataire(s) seulement. Si
> vous avez reçu ce courriel par erreur, veuillez en aviser l'expéditeur
> par courriel ou par téléphone, aux frais de McInnes Cooper.
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
> Date: Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 10:35 AM
> Subject: RE My complaint against the CROWN in Federal Court Attn David
> Hansen and Peter MacKay If you planning to submit a motion for a
> publication ban on my complaint trust that you dudes are way past too late
> To: David.Hansen@justice.gc.ca, peter.mackay@justice.gc.ca
> peacock.kurt@telegraphjournal.
> david.akin@sunmedia.ca, robert.frater@justice.gc.ca, paul.riley@ppsc-sppc.gc.ca,
> greg@gregdelbigio.com, joyce.dewitt-vanoosten@gov.bc.
> joan.barrett@ontario.ca, jean-vincent.lacroix@gouv.qc.
> peter.rogers@mcinnescooper.com
> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, gopublic@cbc.ca,
> Whistleblower@ctv.ca
>
> https://scc-csc.lexum.com/scc-
>
> http://www.scc-csc.gc.ca/
>
> http://thedavidamosrant.
>
> I repeat what the Hell do I do with the Yankee wiretapes taps sell
> them on Ebay or listen to them and argue them with you dudes in
> Feferal Court?
>
> Petey Baby loses all parliamentary privelges in less than a month but
> he still supposed to be an ethical officer of the Court CORRECT?
>
> Veritas Vincit
> David Raymond Amos
> 902 800 0369
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 14:10:14 -0400
> Subject: Yo Mr Bauer say hey to your client Obama and his buddies in
> the USDOJ for me will ya?
> To: RBauer@perkinscoie.com, sshimshak@paulweiss.com,
> cspada@lswlaw.com, msmith@svlaw.com, bginsberg@pattonboggs.com,
> gregory.craig@skadden.com, pm@pm.gc.ca, bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
> bob.rae@rogers.blackberry.net, MulcaT@parl.gc.ca, leader@greenparty.ca
> Cc: alevine@cooley.com, david.raymond.amos@gmail.com,
> michael.rothfeld@wsj.com, remery@ecbalaw.com
>
> QSLS Politics
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> Visit Number 29,419
>
> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.
>
>
> Could ya tell I am investigating your pension plan bigtime? Its
> because no member of the RCMP I have ever encountered has earned it yet
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:36:04 -0400
> Subject: This is a brief as I can make my concerns Randy
> To: randyedmunds@gov.nl.ca
> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>
> In a nutshell my concerns about the actions of the Investment Industry
> affect the interests of every person in every district of every
> country not just the USA and Canada. I was offering to help you with
> Emera because my work with them and Danny Williams is well known and
> some of it is over eight years old and in the PUBLIC Record.
>
> All you have to do is stand in the Legislature and ask the MInister of
> Justice why I have been invited to sue Newfoundland by the
> Conservatives
>
>
> Obviously I am the guy the USDOJ and the SEC would not name who is the
> link to Madoff and Putnam Investments
>
> Here is why
>
> http://banking.senate.gov/
>
> Notice the transcripts and webcasts of the hearing of the US Senate
> Banking Commitee are still missing? Mr Emory should at least notice
> Eliot Spitzer and the Dates around November 20th, 2003 in the
> following file
>
> http://www.checktheevidence.
>
> http://occupywallst.org/users/
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Hansen, David" David.Hansen@justice.gc.ca
> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 19:28:44 +0000
> Subject: RE: I just called again Mr Hansen
> To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>
> Hello Mr. Amos,
>
> I manage the Justice Canada civil litigation section in the Atlantic
> region. We are only responsible for litigating existing civil
> litigation files in which the Attorney General of Canada is a named
> defendant or plaintiff. If you are a plaintiff or defendant in an
> existing civil litigation matter in the Atlantic region in which
> Attorney General of Canada is a named defendant or plaintiff please
> provide the court file number, the names of the parties in the action
> and your question. I am not the appropriate contact for other
> matters.
>
> Thanks
>
> David A. Hansen
> Regional Director | Directeur régional
> General Counsel |Avocat général
> Civil Litigation and Advisory | Contentieux des affaires civiles et
> services de consultation
> Department of Justice | Ministère de la Justice
> Suite 1400 – Duke Tower | Pièce 1400 – Tour Duke
> 5251 Duke Street | 5251 rue Duke
> Halifax, Nova Scotia | Halifax, Nouvelle- Écosse
> B3J 1P3
> david.hansen@justice.gc.ca
> Telephone | Téléphone (902) 426-3261 / Facsimile | Télécopieur (902)
> 426-2329
> This e-mail is confidential and may be protected by solicitor-client
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>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 02:23:24 -0300
>> Subject: ATTN FBI Special Agent Richard Deslauriers Have you talked to
>> your buddies Fred Wyshak and Brian Kelly about the wiretap tapes YET?
>> To: boston@ic.fbi.gov, washington.field@ic.fbi.gov,
>> bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, Kevin.leahy@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
>> Brian.Kelly@usdoj.gov, us.marshals@usdoj.gov, Fred.Wyshak@usdoj.gov,
>> jcarney@carneybassil.com, bbachrach@bachrachlaw.net
>> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, birgittaj@althingi.is,
>> shmurphy@globe.com, redicecreations@gmail.com
>>
>> FBI Boston
>> One Center Plaza
>> Suite 600
>> Boston, MA 02108
>> Phone: (617) 742-5533
>> Fax: (617) 223-6327
>> E-mail: Boston@ic.fbi.gov
>>
>> Hours
>> Although we operate 24 hours a day, seven days a week, our normal
>> "walk-in" business hours are from 8:15 a.m. to 5:00 p.m., Monday
>> through Friday. If you need to speak with a FBI representative at any
>> time other than during normal business hours, please telephone our
>> office at (617) 742-5533.
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:20:20 -0300
>> Subject: Yo Fred Wyshak and Brian Kelly your buddy Whitey's trial is
>> finally underway now correct? What the hell do I do with the wiretap
>> tapes Sell them on Ebay?
>> To: Brian.Kelly@usdoj.gov, us.marshals@usdoj.gov,
>> Fred.Wyshak@usdoj.gov, jcarney@carneybassil.com,
>> bbachrach@bachrachlaw.net, wolfheartlodge@live.com, shmurphy@globe.com, >> jonathan.albano@bingham.com, mvalencia@globe.com
>> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, oldmaison@yahoo.com,
>> PATRICK.MURPHY@dhs.gov, rounappletree@aol.com
>>
>> http://www.bostonglobe.com/
>>
>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/
>>
>> As the CBC etc yap about Yankee wiretaps and whistleblowers I must ask
>> them the obvious question AIN'T THEY FORGETTING SOMETHING????
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?
>>
>> What the hell does the media think my Yankee lawyer served upon the
>> USDOJ right after I ran for and seat in the 39th Parliament baseball
>> cards?
>>
>> http://www.archive.org/
>>
>> http://archive.org/details/
>>
>> http://davidamos.blogspot.ca/
>>
>> http://www.archive.org/
>>
>> http://archive.org/details/
>>
>> FEDERAL EXPRES February 7, 2006
>> Senator Arlen Specter
>> United States Senate
>> Committee on the Judiciary
>> 224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
>> Washington, DC 20510
>>
>> Dear Mr. Specter:
>>
>> I have been asked to forward the enclosed tapes to you from a man
>> named, David Amos, a Canadian citizen, in connection with the matters
>> raised in the attached letter.
>>
>> Mr. Amos has represented to me that these are illegal FBI wire tap tapes.
>>
>> I believe Mr. Amos has been in contact with you about this previously.
>>
>> Very truly yours,
>> Barry A. Bachrach
>> Direct telephone: (508) 926-3403
>> Direct facsimile: (508) 929-3003
>> Email: bbachrach@bowditch.com
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Amos" david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>> To: "Rob Talach" rtalach@ledroitbeckett.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 10:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: Attn Robert Talach and I should talk ASAP about my suing
>> the Catholic Church Trust that Bastarache knows why
>>
>> The date stamp on about page 134 of this old file of mine should mean
>> a lot to you
>>
>> http://www.checktheevidence.
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:37:08 -0400
>> Subject: To Hell with the KILLER COP Gilles Moreau What say you NOW
>> Bernadine Chapman??
>> To: Gilles.Moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, phil.giles@statcan.ca,
>> maritme_malaise@yahoo.ca, Jennifer.Nixon@ps-sp.gc.ca,
>> bartman.heidi@psic-ispc.gc.ca, Yves.J.Marineau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>> david.paradiso@erc-cee.gc.ca, desaulniea@smtp.gc.ca,
>> denise.brennan@tbs-sct.gc.ca, anne.murtha@vac-acc.gc.ca,
>> webo@xplornet.com, julie.dickson@osfi-bsif.gc.ca,
>> rod.giles@osfi-bsif.gc.ca, flaherty.j@parl.gc.ca, toewsv1@parl.gc.ca,
>> Nycole.Turmel@parl.gc.ca,Cleme
>> david@fairwhistleblower.ca
>> Cc: j.kroes@interpol.int, david.raymond.amos@gmail.com,
>> bernadine.chapman@rcmp-grc.gc.
>> Juanita.Peddle@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com,
>> Wayne.Lang@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, Robert.Trevors@gnb.ca,
>> ian.fahie@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
>>
>> http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/nb/
>>
>> http://nb.rcmpvet.ca/
>>
>> From: Gilles Moreau Gilles.Moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:03:22 -0500
>> Subject: Re: Lets ee if the really nasty Newfy Lawyer Danny Boy
>> Millions will explain this email to you or your boss Vic Toews EH
>> Constable Peddle???
>> To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>>
>> Please cease and desist from using my name in your emails.
>>
>> Gilles Moreau, Chief Superintendent, CHRP and ACC
>> Director General
>> HR Transformation
>> 73 Leikin Drive, M5-2-502
>> Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0R2
>>
>> Tel 613-843-6039
>> Cel 613-818-6947
>>
>> Gilles Moreau, surintendant principal, CRHA et ACC
>> Directeur général de la Transformation des ressources humaines
>> 73 Leikin, pièce M5-2-502
>> Ottawa, ON K1A 0R2
>>
>> tél 613-843-6039
>> cel 613-818-6947
>> gilles.moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>>
>
> First things first have a Look at the 3 documents hereto attached (Not
> a big read)
>
> Listen to these old voicemails from interesting FEDS at about the
> same point in time (Won't take long)
>
> http://www.archive.org/
>
> then ask youselves or the lawyers Senator Shelby or Spizter or Cutler
> or Bernie madoff's old buddy Robert Glauber where the webcast and
> transcript went for a very important hearing held in late 2003 by the
> United States Senate Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs.
>
> http://www.banking.senate.gov/
>
> Review of Current Investigations and Regulatory Actions Regarding the
> Mutual Fund Industry
>
> November 20, 2003 02:00 PM
> The Committee will meet in OPEN SESSION to conduct the second in a
> series of hearings on the “Review of Current Investigations and
> Regulatory Actions Regarding the Mutual Fund Industry.”
>
> Archived Webcast
>
> Witness Panel 1
>
> Mr. Stephen M. Cutler
> Director - Division of Enforcement
> Securities and Exchange Commission
> cutler.pdf (175.5 KBs)
>
> Mr. Robert Glauber
> Chairman and CEO
> National Association of Securities Dealers
> glauber.pdf (171.1 KBs)
>
> Eliot Spitzer
> Attorney General
> State of New York
> spitzer.pdf (68.2 KBs)
>
> Permalink:
> http://www.banking.senate.gov/
>
>
> Trust that the evil women and men that PM Trudeau "The Younger"
> appointed to to his cabinet will continue to play dumb because of
> their oath to The Privy Council. However it does not follow that
> everybody who works for them are dumb and they have no such oath to
> uphold N'esy Pas?.
>
> Veritas Vincit
> David Raymond Amos
> 902 800 0369
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Lisa Porteous <lporteous@kleinlyons.com>
> Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 14:46:22 +0000
> Subject: RCMP
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
> David,
>
> Thank you for your email inquiring about our class action against the
> RCMP. As you may know, the Notice of Claim was filed in the British
> Columbia Supreme Court on March 27, 2012. The lawsuit has been
> brought by former RCMP constable Janet Merlo on behalf of female RCMP
> members. Unfortunately, we cannot assist you with your claim.
>
> We recommend that you contact Mr. Barry Carter of Mair Jensen Blair
> LLP to discuss any claim you may have against the RCMP for harassment.
> His contact information is as follows:
>
> Mr. Barry Carter
> Mair Jensen Blair LLP
> 1380-885 W. Georgia Street
> Vancouver, BC V6C 3E8
> Phone: 604-682-6299
> Fax 1-604-374-6992
>
> This is not intended to be an opinion concerning the merits of your
> case. In declining to represent you, we are not expressing an opinion
> as to whether you should take further action in this matter.
>
> You should be aware that there may be strict time limitations within
> which you must act in order to protect your rights. Failure to begin
> your lawsuit by filing an action within the required time may mean
> that you could be barred forever from pursuing a claim. Therefore, you
> should immediately contact another lawyer ( as indicated above) to
> obtain legal advice/representation.
>
> Thank you again for considering our firm.
>
> Yours truly,
>
> Lisa Porteous
> Case Manager/Paralegal
>
> lporteous@kleinlyons.com
> www.kleinlyons.com
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Done right, carbon pricing changes household and business behaviour, reduces GHG emissions, and provides an incentive for the development and adoption of the technologies that can play a key role in a low-carbon economy.
In addition (and this point is also often overlooked), carbon pricing will achieve these outcomes at a lower economic cost than other policies. Together, this means that carbon pricing can support both a clean economy and a prosperous economy. It achieves these goals by changing incentives and unleashing market forces. It lets businesses and individuals identify the best ways to reduce their GHG emissions and at the times and places that are right for them. And it doesn’t require governments to identify and enforce specific ways to reduce GHG emissions.
This essay unpacks the overall story. What does “working” mean for carbon pricing? Where has carbon pricing worked? Why does carbon pricing work? When does carbon pricing work? Who supports carbon pricing? How do policies put a price on carbon? We provide clear answers to these questions in simple, (mostly) jargon-free language. Just the facts.
Summary of Recommendations
#1: Canadian provinces should rely on increasingly stringent carbon pricing policies to reduce GHG emissions
Governments should continue to make carbon pricing the central plank of their climate policy, and they should add well-designed non-pricing policies only when carbon pricing alone can’t do the job. This will ensure that Canada reduces GHG emissions at the lowest possible economic cost. The stringency of carbon pricing policies across Canada should continue to increase gradually over time to drive deeper emissions reductions. Canadian provinces can achieve this by steadily increasing the rates of carbon taxes or steadily reducing the number of permits in cap-and-trade systems.
The expectation of rising carbon prices will strengthen incentives for emitters to innovate and invest in low-carbon technologies. Steady, predictable increases in stringency will ensure that individuals and businesses have time to adjust and plan their long-term investments accordingly.
#2: Policy makers and analysts should work to better communicate the realities of carbon pricing
We’ve come a long way in Canada. We have real, working examples of both carbon taxes and cap-and-trade systems. But pervasive myths about carbon pricing still cause too much of the debate to be based on poor information.
We appreciate that carbon pricing isn’t always simple, especially when it comes to the important details of policy design. It is incumbent on all of us engaged in climate policy to communicate beyond a narrow group of technical policy experts. Carbon pricing affects all Canadians, so we need to help all Canadians understand the basics.
#3: Governments should carefully evaluate their carbon-pricing policies over time, especially in the medium term.
Nothing is more convincing than hard data. To show that carbon pricing works, governments should undertake careful, detailed analysis of how carbon pricing has performed in their jurisdictions. That analysis should isolate the effects of carbon pricing from other factors. It should explicitly show the impacts of the policy on GHG emissions and the economy by estimating what environmental and economic outcomes would have been in the absence of the carbon price. This robust data and analysis should be clearly communicated to the public.
https://ecofiscal.ca/the-commission/the-people-behind-the-commission/
The People Behind The Commission
Commissioners
Canada’s Ecofiscal Commission was formed by a group of experienced, policy-minded economists from across the country. With hundreds of years of combined experience, they have helped design, impBlement, and analyze policies for governments across Canada.CHRIS RAGAN
Chair, Canada's Ecofiscal CommissionDirector, Max Bell School of Public Policy
McGill University, Department of Economics
Formerly
Clifford Clark Visiting Economist, Finance CanadaSpecial Advisor to the Governor, Bank of Canada
ELIZABETH BEALE
EconomistFormerly
President and CEO, Atlantic Provinces Economic CouncilPAUL BOOTHE
Fellow of the Institute for Competitiveness and ProsperityFormerly
Western University, Richard Ivey School of BusinessDeputy Minister, Environment Canada
Deputy Minister, Finance, Saskatchewan
MEL CAPPE
University of Toronto, School of Public Policy and GovernanceFormerly
President IRPPClerk of the Privy Council
BEV DAHLBY
School of Public Policy, University of CalgaryFormerly
Member of the Technical Committee on Business TaxationDON DRUMMOND
Queens University, School of Policy StudiesFormerly
Senior Vice President & Chief Economist, TD BankAssociate Deputy Minister, Finance Canada
STEWART ELGIE
University of Ottawa, Institute for the EnvironmentExecutive Chair, Smart Prosperity Institute
GLEN HODGSON
Senior Fellow, Conference Board of CanadaFormerly
Senior Vice President & Chief Economist, Conference Board of CanadaJUSTIN LEROUX
Associate Professor at the Department of Applied Economics of HEC MontréalNANCY OLEWILER
Simon Fraser University, School of Public PolicyFormerly
Member of the Technical Committee on Business TaxationFRANCE ST-HILAIRE
Vice President of Research, Institute for Research on Public PolicyLINDSAY TEDDS
School of Public Administration, University of VictoriaVisiting Professor, School of Public Policy, University of Calgary
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Advisory Board
Composed of some of Canda’s most respected leaders in industry, the environment, and across the political spectrum, the Commission’s Advisory Board provides critical insight, guidance, and a wealth of perspectives on designing practical and effective ecofiscal policies for Canada’s unique context.GORDON CAMPBELL
Formerly
Canada’s High Commissioner to The United Kingdom and Northern IrelandJIM DINNING
Corporate DirectorFormerly
Chair of the boards of Western Financial GroupJANICE MACKINNON
Professor, University of SaskatchewanFormerly
Minister of Finance, SaskatchewanPRESTON MANNING
President and CEO, Manning CentreFormerly
Leader of the Official Opposition, CanadaAs of July 1, 2017, Jack Mintz has left the Advisory Board to give himself more time for other research and policy work. Jack’s advice and support have been tremendously helpful in shaping the Commission’s work. We thank him for his contributions and wish him the best.
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Funders & Supporters
Canada’s Ecofiscal Commission is proud to acknowledge the support and contributions of:Nearly a third of Canadians don't believe humans, industry 'mostly' cause climate change: poll
'Without B.C.’s carbon tax, emissions would be five to 15 per cent higher than they are right now'
· CBC News · Posted: Apr 04, 2018 5:00 AM ET
Nearly a third of Canadians say they're
not convinced that climate change is being caused by human and
industrial activity, according to a newly released Abacus Data poll.
The poll, commissioned by Canada's Ecofiscal Commission, examined Canadian attitudes on climate change and the policy responses offered by governments, with an emphasis on examining attitudes toward the carbon tax as a possible solution.
The commission, a group of economists that advocate for practical ways to fight climate change, published an accompanying report touting the effectiveness of a carbon tax in reducing GHG emissions — a policy the survey revealed is not broadly understood by Canadians.
"I think this is another interesting example of economists being different than normal people," said Dale Beugin, the executive director of Canada's Ecofiscal Commission. "Economists look at carbon pricing and instinctively see the market forces, they see flexibility, they see lowest cost ways to reduce GHG emissions."
The survey found that while most Canadians believe climate change is real, their faith in the ability of science to shine a light on the issue is not uniform across the population.
Only 28 per cent of those polled said the evidence for human-caused climate change is conclusive, with another 33 per cent describing the evidence as "solid."
But from there the numbers start to slide — with 27 per cent saying there is some evidence, but it's not conclusive. The last 11 per cent claimed there is little to no evidence to suggest human-caused climate change is real.
Asked "If the earth is warming, do you believe that cause is mostly...?," 70 per cent of those surveyed chose "human activity and industrial activity such as burning fossil fuels" — while the remaining 30 per cent chose "natural patterns in the Earth's environment."
When it comes to taking action to combat climate change, the number of people who said they want government to focus less on policy to reduce emissions has doubled from eight per cent in 2015 to 16 per cent in 2018.
That shift in attitudes is also apparent in the drop in the percentage of Canadians who want more of a government emphasis on reducing emissions — from 69 per cent in 2015 to 60 per cent today.
Broken down regionally, the highest support for more action on climate change came from the Atlantic provinces at 69 per cent, followed closely by Que. at 66 per cent and B.C. at 65 per cent.
From there the numbers begin to decline, with only 57 per cent of Ontarians and 56 per cent of people polled in Manitoba and Saskatchewan saying the government should put more of an emphasis on fighting climate change.
Alberta brought up the rear, with just 46 per cent of people surveyed in that province saying they wanted more action on climate from government.
These numbers can perhaps be explained by looking at what those surveyed say are their top public policy priorities. Climate change comes in near the bottom of the list, at 21 per cent; improving health care services came in at 46 per cent.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's federal policy response to climate change is the Pan-Canadian Framework on Clean Growth and Climate Change. That plan puts a $10 price on each tonne of greenhouse gas emissions beginning in 2018, rising by $10 every year until the price hits $50 a tonne by 2022.
The federal government has said that it will impose a carbon price on any jurisdiction that does not implement its own plan to put a price on carbon.
But only 42 per cent of Canadians surveyed said they were either very familiar (10 per cent) or pretty familiar (32 per cent) with the concept of putting a price on carbon.
The reason for that result may have something to do with how closely survey respondents follow carbon policy in their own provinces. The survey showed that 41 per cent of those polled do not know if their home provinces have put a price on carbon.
Four Canadian provinces currently have carbon pricing plans — B.C., Alberta, Ontario and Quebec — but residents of those provinces seemed broadly unaware of how the policy affects them, with the exception of Albertans.
In B.C., only 45 per cent of people polled reported knowing their province has a plan. In Ontario that number was 30 per cent, while in Quebec it sat even lower at 20 per cent.
But in Alberta, some 78 per cent of residents were aware the provincial government already had put a price on carbon.
In the five provinces that have signed on to the federal government's Pan-Canadian Framework committing to impose a price on carbon, public awareness seemed even less pronounced.
Beugin attributed the public's lack of understanding of carbon tax policy in part to how difficult it can be to understand a policy at the centre of a polarized debate.
In Manitoba, 8 per cent of residents said their province already has a price on carbon (it doesn't — not yet) and 9 per cent said Manitoba was not planning on implementing one (the provincial government has already made public its plans to do so).
Almost half of those surveyed in New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, P.E.I. and Newfoundland said they were unsure of what the situations were in their provinces.
Nationally, only 58 per cent of those who participated in the online survey said they thought that the primary purpose of a carbon tax was to change behaviour, compared to 42 per cent who said the purpose was just to raise money.
"The statistical analysis out there is pretty clear," said Beugin. "Without B.C.'s carbon tax, emissions would be five to 15 per cent higher than they are right now."
Having said that, 78 per cent of respondents said they had a positive view of carbon pricing, compared to 22 per cent who said they had a negative view of the policy.
To compile the survey, 2,250 randomly selected panellists were invited to complete the online survey from Feb. 9 to 15. While online polls like this do not have a margin of error, the margin of error for a comparable sample is +/- 2.1 percentage points, 19 times out of 20.
The poll, commissioned by Canada's Ecofiscal Commission, examined Canadian attitudes on climate change and the policy responses offered by governments, with an emphasis on examining attitudes toward the carbon tax as a possible solution.
The commission, a group of economists that advocate for practical ways to fight climate change, published an accompanying report touting the effectiveness of a carbon tax in reducing GHG emissions — a policy the survey revealed is not broadly understood by Canadians.
"I think this is another interesting example of economists being different than normal people," said Dale Beugin, the executive director of Canada's Ecofiscal Commission. "Economists look at carbon pricing and instinctively see the market forces, they see flexibility, they see lowest cost ways to reduce GHG emissions."
The survey found that while most Canadians believe climate change is real, their faith in the ability of science to shine a light on the issue is not uniform across the population.
Only 28 per cent of those polled said the evidence for human-caused climate change is conclusive, with another 33 per cent describing the evidence as "solid."
But from there the numbers start to slide — with 27 per cent saying there is some evidence, but it's not conclusive. The last 11 per cent claimed there is little to no evidence to suggest human-caused climate change is real.
Asked "If the earth is warming, do you believe that cause is mostly...?," 70 per cent of those surveyed chose "human activity and industrial activity such as burning fossil fuels" — while the remaining 30 per cent chose "natural patterns in the Earth's environment."
Government action
When it comes to taking action to combat climate change, the number of people who said they want government to focus less on policy to reduce emissions has doubled from eight per cent in 2015 to 16 per cent in 2018.
That shift in attitudes is also apparent in the drop in the percentage of Canadians who want more of a government emphasis on reducing emissions — from 69 per cent in 2015 to 60 per cent today.
Broken down regionally, the highest support for more action on climate change came from the Atlantic provinces at 69 per cent, followed closely by Que. at 66 per cent and B.C. at 65 per cent.
From there the numbers begin to decline, with only 57 per cent of Ontarians and 56 per cent of people polled in Manitoba and Saskatchewan saying the government should put more of an emphasis on fighting climate change.
Alberta brought up the rear, with just 46 per cent of people surveyed in that province saying they wanted more action on climate from government.
These numbers can perhaps be explained by looking at what those surveyed say are their top public policy priorities. Climate change comes in near the bottom of the list, at 21 per cent; improving health care services came in at 46 per cent.
Pricing carbon
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's federal policy response to climate change is the Pan-Canadian Framework on Clean Growth and Climate Change. That plan puts a $10 price on each tonne of greenhouse gas emissions beginning in 2018, rising by $10 every year until the price hits $50 a tonne by 2022.
The federal government has said that it will impose a carbon price on any jurisdiction that does not implement its own plan to put a price on carbon.
But only 42 per cent of Canadians surveyed said they were either very familiar (10 per cent) or pretty familiar (32 per cent) with the concept of putting a price on carbon.
The reason for that result may have something to do with how closely survey respondents follow carbon policy in their own provinces. The survey showed that 41 per cent of those polled do not know if their home provinces have put a price on carbon.
Four Canadian provinces currently have carbon pricing plans — B.C., Alberta, Ontario and Quebec — but residents of those provinces seemed broadly unaware of how the policy affects them, with the exception of Albertans.
The statistical analysis out there is pretty clear Without B.C.'s carbon tax, emissions would be five to 15 per cent higher than they are right now- Dale Beugin , executive director, Canada's Ecofiscal Commission
In B.C., only 45 per cent of people polled reported knowing their province has a plan. In Ontario that number was 30 per cent, while in Quebec it sat even lower at 20 per cent.
But in Alberta, some 78 per cent of residents were aware the provincial government already had put a price on carbon.
In the five provinces that have signed on to the federal government's Pan-Canadian Framework committing to impose a price on carbon, public awareness seemed even less pronounced.
Beugin attributed the public's lack of understanding of carbon tax policy in part to how difficult it can be to understand a policy at the centre of a polarized debate.
In Manitoba, 8 per cent of residents said their province already has a price on carbon (it doesn't — not yet) and 9 per cent said Manitoba was not planning on implementing one (the provincial government has already made public its plans to do so).
Almost half of those surveyed in New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, P.E.I. and Newfoundland said they were unsure of what the situations were in their provinces.
The purpose of a carbon tax
Nationally, only 58 per cent of those who participated in the online survey said they thought that the primary purpose of a carbon tax was to change behaviour, compared to 42 per cent who said the purpose was just to raise money.
"The statistical analysis out there is pretty clear," said Beugin. "Without B.C.'s carbon tax, emissions would be five to 15 per cent higher than they are right now."
Having said that, 78 per cent of respondents said they had a positive view of carbon pricing, compared to 22 per cent who said they had a negative view of the policy.
To compile the survey, 2,250 randomly selected panellists were invited to complete the online survey from Feb. 9 to 15. While online polls like this do not have a margin of error, the margin of error for a comparable sample is +/- 2.1 percentage points, 19 times out of 20.
Clarifications
- This story has been updated to include the full text and responses for the question about the cause of climate change. The headline has been updated to make it clear the question asked what respondents believe 'mostly' causes climate change.Apr 04, 2018 9:28 AM ET
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