Methinks Canadians should ignore the political spin on NAFTA and simply Google the following words "Trump, Cohen, Amos, NAFTA and FATCA"

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/nafta-nowhere-near-close-1.4668556

'Nowhere near close:' U.S. rebuffs Trudeau hope for quick NAFTA deal

U.S. trade czar Robert Lighthizer cites 'gaping differences' after Trudeau says a 'good deal' is on the table

Alexander Panetta · The Canadian Press · Posted: May 18, 2018 7:33 AM ET 

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James Smith

This government has no idea, no imagination and is wholly incompetent.

David Amos

@James Smith Methinks Canadians should ignore the political spin on NAFTA and simply Google the following words "Trump, Cohen, Amos, NAFTA and FATCA" and then ask their MP no matter what colour of coat they where why have my concerns been ignored by the current government N'esy Pas?

William Weston

@James Smith “This government has no idea, no imagination and is wholly incompetent”
And is always, always, always run by the same people fronted by the same two parties. Could there be a connection?
By electing representatives of our choosing in our ridings rather than party representatives of their choosing we could fix the problem standing in our way. It’s free (according to Elections Canada website), it’s progressive and it would mean our voice gets past the parties and into parliament.
It’s Canada; we are free to choose to be active and force democratic change or we can choose to sit back and complain about being victims. What a great country. For now.

David Amos

@William Weston "It’s Canada; we are free to choose to be active and force democratic change or we can choose to sit back and complain about being victims."

Methinks you should scroll up through this thread and read my comment in order to check out my tip then decide on what side of the fence you are on N'esy Pas?

Bill Nazarene

@David Amos

Such misplaced self-importance. But, hey... you be you.

Sad...

William Weston

@David Amos
I would but my doctor of letters has me on a strict diet and I'm only eight syllables short of my daily allowance.

David Amos

@William Weston Methinks that you and Mr Nazarene get the governments you deserve in light of the fact that you would rather make fun of me instead of simply Googling the following words "Trump, Cohen, Amos, NAFTA and FATCA" N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@Bill Nazarene Methinks you may enjoy Googling the following N'esy Pas?

William Weston Bill Nazarene David Amos CBC

William Weston

@David Amos "Methinks that you..."

My apologies, I was wrong for making what I intended as a light hearted comment and you saw as a slight.

David Amos

@William Weston I thank you for that. It speaks well of your sense of integrity. In return I will bury the hatchet with you. Everybody knows I have enough enemies. Just Google my name and you will understand.

David Amos 

 @William Weston "By electing representatives of our choosing in our ridings rather than party representatives of their choosing we could fix the problem standing in our way. It’s free (according to Elections Canada website), it’s progressive and it would mean our voice gets past the parties and into parliament."

A little Politics 101 f mine for you to consider

June 22, 2004
The Unconventional Candidate
David Amos Isn’t Campaigning For Your Vote, But….
By Gisele McKnight Editor
Kings County Record

"Ironically, the man who is running for office has never voted in his life.

"But I have no right to criticize unless I offer my name," he said. "It’s alright to bitch in the kitchen, but can you walk the walk?"

"I won’t take any donations," he said. "Just try to give me some. It’s not about money. It goes against what I’m fighting about."

What he’s fighting for is the discussion of issues – tainted blood, the exploitation of the Maritimes’ gas and oil reserves and NAFTA, to name a few.

"The political issues in the Maritimes involve the three Fs – fishing, farming and forestry, but they forget foreign issues," he said. "I’m death on NAFTA, the back room deals and free trade. I say chuck it (NAFTA) out the window.

NAFTA is the North American Free Trade Agreement which allows an easier flow of goods between Canada, the United States and Mexico.

Amos disagrees with the idea that a vote for him is a wasted vote.

"There are no wasted votes," he said. "I want people like me, especially young people, to pay attention and exercise their right. Don’t necessarily vote for me, but vote."

David Amos

@William Weston "It’s Canada; we are free to choose to be active and force democratic change or we can choose to sit back and complain about being victims. What a great country. For now."

Methinks that is a pipe dream sold you by the corporate media. I have the right to believe that particularly after being barred from all parliamentary properties in Canada and being falsely imprisoned in Canada and the USA since I ran for a seat in Parliament in 2004 N'esy Pas?

If you think its my pipe dream then why did CBC ignore its mandate and fail to report that I ran for public office five times? This is the most recent proof of what I say is true Please read all the comments

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276

Here is a televised debate I had weeks before . Please enjoy my two bits worth about NAFTA etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cFOKT6TlSE

At the risk of being redundant if you were to Google the following words as I suggested out of the gate in this thread then you may reach an understanding as to what I am up to with NAFTA today which is what this article is about Correct?

The words are

Trump, Cohen, Amos, NAFTA and FATCA

 
Rod Figueroa

Trudeau delivers Zero. Freeland, Zero.

Bill Nazarene

@Rod Figueroa

Canada's position is clear. All parties are all in or not in at all. Trump's insistence on an 'escape clause' is just another version of an old theme of his: "Please, baby. Just the tip."

No thanks to this punk.

David Amos

@Bill Nazarene "Such misplaced self-importance. But, hey... you be you."

Methinks the same should be said of you N'esy Pas?

 
Mike Johnson

Jason Kenney summed it up pretty good.

David Amos

@Corey Arseneault "Jason Kenny is a populist like trump. He will tell you whatever it takes to get elected. He is a perfect example of someone that shouldn't be in politics. I think he would be great as a political commenter"

Methinks I wholeheartedly agree with your first thought but I don't think he would be great as a "political commenter" Hence I must sit on the fence about your comment N'esy Pas?

 

Randolph F Whelan

How embarrassing. First getting called out by Mexico and next day, bam, getting called out by the US. Have another puff JT

David Amos

@Randolph F Whelan "How embarrassing."

Methinks Trudeau The Younger does not know how to feel embarrassed. His trip to India proved that N'esy Pas?

Randolph F Whelan

@David Amos

oui

 

Daryl McBride

This man is just not ready, period.

Karen King

@Daryl McBride

Right but you think wee Andy is??

David Amos

@Karen King "Right but you think wee Andy is??"

Methinks Harper 2.0 is a perfect clown for this three ring Circus overseen by narcissistic dudes who cannot be called "Three Amigos" N'esy Pas?

 

Douglas Fowler

This difference just demonstrates that Trudeau just spins for his 35% base. The Agreement is nowhere near completion and he says "a good deal is on the table". Be afraid, very afraid!

David Amos

@Douglas Fowler "Be afraid, very afraid!"

Methinks I am far too old to learn how to be afraid So I will just sit back and watch the circus unfold its tent. Then like one the heroes of my youth Yosemite Sam I will pay my two bits to watch the High Diving Acts of Mr Trump and Trudeau The Younger just like any Proud Canadian should N'esy Pas?

 

Glenn Carruthers

This is way too complex for a drama teacher.

David Amos

@Glenn Carruthers Methinks drama is all politics is

Trump the old dude with strange hair and Trudeau The Younger the young dude with great hair proved it byway of getting elected against all odds N'esy Pas?

 

Elias Snodgrass

So we are (pick one)
a) Close to a deal
b) Not close to a deal

or even
c) No one really knows

David Amos

@Elias Snodgrass I will go with c)

Elias Snodgrass

@David Amos
Many of us have come to the same conclusion

David Amos

@Elias Snodgrass "Ummm JT is a left winger dude"

Methinks I should inform you of what all the right and left wing commenting dudes already know.. I ran for public office against their political parties as an Independent in five elections thus far.

Whereas this new article is about the new NAFTA deal. some folks may take an interest in what I have been saying in the media about NAFTA and Free Trade in general since 2004 N'esy Pas?

With that in mind here is a televised debate in 2015 I had with a former Conservative Cabinet Minister and the current leader of Mr McCaig's beloved NDP in NB. The time of the debate was when their political parties were high in the polls in 2015 and Trudeau The Younger was the leader of the 3rd party. Please enjoy my two bits worth about NAFTA etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cFOKT6TlSE

 

Dirk Beauregard

Lighthizer....transparent.
Trudeau....not so much.

John Gerrits

@Dirk Beauregard Oh,he's very transparent....Canadians and the world are truly beginning to see right through the incompetence.

David Amos

@John Gerrits I agree

 

Dougal Fingal

Trudeau, true to form, is full of baloney.

Colin Seeley

@Dougal Fingal

Stupid is -as - stupid does.

David Amos

@Colin Seeley Forest Gump and I both agree

David Amos

@Stan Nova Methinks Canadian baloney costs too much these days but I bet a lot of old folks enjoy the Canadian version of Yankee Spam called Kam like I do N'esy Pas?

Donald Patrick

@David Amos Whats with all the Methinks and n'esc pas? Did you learn a few new words today?

David Amos

@Donald Patrick Since you asked why not Google the following words to discover why you will see your words published elsewhere in short order?

David Amos Methinks N'esy Pas?

 
Geoffrey May

Trudeau was a fool to enter into these negotiations, Trump will never conclude them . It's a huge waste of time and money , unfortunately our PM lacks his parents intelligence.

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David Amos

@Geoffrey May Methinks its rather obvious that Trudeau The Younger inherited his Mother's good looks and his Fat Daddy's bag money and severe lack of ethics. With those genes and all the dough in his jeans he has gone far with or without a conscience or his Fat Daddy's fine old car N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@Geoffrey May Oh My My CBC did not like my reply. Methinks everybody knows that its the not the first time N'esy Pas?

 

 Darren Mack

CBC really got caught with its pants down this time. They've pushing Trudeau's rosy narrative on NAFTA for the past 3 days while everyone else was reporting American and Mexican officials saying it's as good as dead in the water. In other words, they inadvertently confirmed what everyone has known since 2015, this is the PMO news network, it's the Liberal Ministry of Propaganda.

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David Amos

@Darren Mack Methinks everybody should wonder whether or not CBC will allow my next comment N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@David Amos Survey Says?

Darren Mack

@David Amos
Survey Says: If an election were held today, Conservatives would win a majority government.
Conservaatives 43%
Liberals 30%
NDP 15%

 

Gary Jessop

Trump knows there is no political downside in delaying a NAFTA deal; he exited the TPP without damage.

Canada's linear arguments to close a deal are too sophisticated. Lightizer personifies Trump's simplistic America First policy.

In spite of Lightizer's insensitive, undiplomatic and unnecessary rebuttal, Trudeau's intervention adds to the prime minister's record of failure on the international front.

Canada and Mexico will eventually get a NAFTA deal, but not under Trump.

David Amos

@Gary Jessop "Trump knows there is no political downside in delaying a NAFTA deal; he exited the TPP without damage. "

Methinks that you forgot that Trump wants back in TPP N'esy Pas?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/trump-trade-tpp-1.4616915

Trump asks U.S. trade officials to look into joining Trans-Pacific Partnership
'Would only join TPP if the deal were substantially better than the deal offered to Pres. Obama,' Trump tweets
The Associated Press · Posted: Apr 12, 2018 4:20 PM ET

 

David Amos

If folks care to know more about political actions for and against NAFTA all they have to do is Google the following words

Trump, Cohen, Amos, NAFTA and FATCA

Here is proof that one Proud Maritimer was speaking against NAFTA in political fashion before Trump was elected President.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cFOKT6TlSE

The news 14 years ago just before the lawyer Rob Moore was predictably elected.

June 22, 2004
The Unconventional Candidate
David Amos Isn’t Campaigning For Your Vote, But….
By Gisele McKnight Editor
Kings County Record

"Ironically, the man who is running for office has never voted in his life.

"But I have no right to criticize unless I offer my name," he said. "It’s alright to bitch in the kitchen, but can you walk the walk?"

"I won’t take any donations," he said. "Just try to give me some. It’s not about money. It goes against what I’m fighting about."

What he’s fighting for is the discussion of issues – tainted blood, the exploitation of the Maritimes’ gas and oil reserves and NAFTA, to name a few.

"The political issues in the Maritimes involve the three Fs – fishing, farming and forestry, but they forget foreign issues," he said. "I’m death on NAFTA, the back room deals and free trade. I say chuck it (NAFTA) out the window.

NAFTA is the North American Free Trade Agreement which allows an easier flow of goods between Canada, the United States and Mexico.

3 years ago the lawyer Rob Moore lost even though CBC expected otherwise

Fundy Royal voters have elected Conservatives all but 1 time in 28 elections over 101 years
CBC News · Posted: Oct 17, 2015 6:00 AM AT

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276

(Please notice that I am not mentioned then read all the comments) 

'Nowhere near close:' U.S. rebuffs Trudeau hope for quick NAFTA deal

U.S. trade czar Robert Lighthizer cites 'gaping differences' after Trudeau says a 'good deal' is on the table

Alexander Panetta · The Canadian Press · Posted: May 18, 2018 7:33 AM ET

U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer, left, threw cold water on any talk of a quick resolution to outstanding NAFTA issues after Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said a 'good deal' is on the table. (Canadian Press)



The United States declared the NAFTA countries were nowhere close to a deal, in a statement Thursday designed to douse expectations that an agreement might be just a few minor adjustments away.

It rebuffed an effort from Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland, and several high-ranking staffers who were in the U.S. on Thursday urging a quick deal.

U.S. trade czar Robert Lighthizer rejected the idea that an agreement was within imminent reach. He cited big differences on intellectual property, agriculture, online purchases, energy, labour, rules of origin and other issues.

"The NAFTA countries are nowhere near close to a deal.... There are gaping differences," Lighthizer said in an evening statement.

"We of course will continue to engage in negotiations, and I look forward to working with my counterparts to secure the best possible deal for American farmers, ranchers, workers, and businesses."

All three countries agreed that they would keep negotiating beyond Thursday, a date that had been presented as a procedural deadline for getting a deal to the U.S. Congress for a vote this year.
The reason Canada, Mexico and some in the U.S. want a deal wrapped up has to do with creating certainty, in terms of business confidence, and to settle the process before elections in Mexico and the U.S. stall progress until next year.

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Some fear delay will add political unpredictability, since many of the politicians now involved will no longer be in politics next year: Mexico will have a new administration, the U.S. will have a new Congress after midterm elections, and several senior American lawmakers are retiring.

Trudeau had spent the day promoting the idea that an agreement was now within reach.

Trudeau says 'we're close to a deal'

Trudeau received a call from U.S. President Donald Trump on Thursday night in which they discussed the NAFTA negotiations, but a readout provided by the prime minister's office did not include any details.

Canada's case lay on a strand of seemingly linear logic. Canada's argument went that if the U.S. claims to be reopening NAFTA specifically to deal with its trade deficit, and if the leading cause of that trade deficit with Mexico involves autos, and if the autos issue is almost solved, then the Americans could walk away right now with a win.

"We are close to a deal," the prime minister said in New York. "We are down to a point where there is a good deal on the table."

Trudeau admitted to being unsure whether a deal would take days, weeks, or be put off indefinitely. In any case, he said he was ready to keep negotiating: "We'll keep working until they shut off the lights."
Trudeau drew another public contradiction Thursday — this one from Mexico.

The Mexican government scolded the prime minister over an element of the sales pitch he delivered in New York: Trudeau argued that the autos changes would help the U.S. by bringing back some Mexican jobs.

In the midst of a presidential election campaign in that country, and facing its own political pressures at home, the Mexican government publicly challenged Canada's prime minister.

"A clarification is necessary," Mexican Economy Minister Ildefonso Guajardo tweeted. "Any renegotiated NAFTA that implies losses of existing Mexican jobs is unacceptable."

The National

Deal or no deal on NAFTA: Canada and U.S. send mixed messages

00:00 03:02

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says there's a good deal on the table, however Robert Lighthizer, the United States Trade Representative, says they are nowhere close to a deal. 3:02

Now it appears the U.S. is settling in for harder bargaining on issues like pharmaceuticals, dairy and online duty-free purchases. Lighthizer's statement did not mention a pair of other sticking points — dispute resolution and a so-called sunset clause.

In an appearance on the Fox Business Network, Trudeau had ridiculed the sunset clause idea, which would see NAFTA automatically end in five years unless all countries agree to extend it.

Trudeau used an example designed to appeal to a certain former real estate developer who is now the U.S. president; he compared the termination clause to building a skyscraper on a parcel of land you might lose in five years.

Lighthizer's statement also did not mention the threat of steel and aluminum tariffs — which are, at this point, scheduled to take effect June 1.

Those impending tariffs, the July 1 Mexican election and the U.S. congressional calendar had all created pressure for an imminent deal.

Top U.S. lawmaker Paul Ryan had declared Thursday as the last date for meeting the procedural deadlines for a vote this year. On Thursday, he revised that slightly.

Ryan clarified that if the independent body in the U.S. tasked with analyzing trade deals managed to assess the new NAFTA faster than legally required, in theory, an agreement could still get to the floor for a vote in this Congress.

Some in the Canadian government have mused about the potential strategic benefits of dragging out the talks. However that calculus has been tempered by Bank of Canada analysis that trade uncertainty is hurting the economy, reducing business investment by about two per cent and the overall gross domestic product by about 0.2 per cent this year.

That uncertainty has been compounded by the tariff threats.