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Yo Mr Brewster we just talked AGAIN (613-791-6925) Please have your lawyers explain the difference to me real slow sometime soon
http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2018/05/were-from-government-and-were-here-to.html
http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2018/05/were-from-government-and-were-here-to.html
My reply to Mr Cluster "Methinks Murray Brewster should read paragraph 83 of my lawsuit against the Queen sometime N'esy Pas?"
http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2015/09/v-behaviorurldefaultvmlo.html
http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2015/09/v-behaviorurldefaultvmlo.html
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/agent-orange-gagetown-eyewitness-1.4673641
Ex-soldier says he watched barrels of Agent Orange being buried at Gagetown base
Did the Canadian military actually track down all of its stocks of the dangerous defoliant?
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Joseph Cluster
What really is disheartening
is the Gov't/military at the time let the US military use our troops as
lab rats in the testing of this chemical.
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David Amos
David Amos
@Joseph Cluster Methinks Murray Brewster should read paragraph 83 of my lawsuit against the Queen sometime N'esy Pas?
John Jacobs
@David Amos
Don’t you mean ‘n'est-ce pas’?
Don’t you mean ‘n'est-ce pas’?
David Amos
@John Jacobs NOPE
Patrick Smyth
@John Jacobs
A complainer extraordinaire and irreverent as they come who happily wears his ignorance and arrogance on his sleeve.
A complainer extraordinaire and irreverent as they come who happily wears his ignorance and arrogance on his sleeve.
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David Amos
David Amos
@Patrick Smyth Methinks that
is a perfect description of yourself It appears that you finally got
something right for a change N'esy Pas?
Art Rowe
@David Amos
Well you should, because your ""N'esy Pas"" certainly isn't French.
Well you should, because your ""N'esy Pas"" certainly isn't French.
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David Amos
David Amos
@Art Rowe Methinks I never said it was however it certainly upsets English "Know It Alls" N'esy Pas?
Kathy Altenhofen
@John Jacobs No, he doesn't. He loves showing his disrespect for all things French Canadian.
Kathy Altenhofen
@David Amos No, it just shows your lack of maturity and complete insensitivity to Canada's French populace.
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David Amos
@Kathy Altenhofen Not True Its French Men I love to tease. (Trust that I count quite a few French Maritimers as friends)
More importantly methinks everybody knows that I love the French Ladies dearly N'esy Pas?
More importantly methinks everybody knows that I love the French Ladies dearly N'esy Pas?
Kathy Altenhofen
@David Amos I'm sure all the French ladies carry 10 foot poles and bear spray on the off chance they see you approaching.
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David Amos
David Amos
@Kathy Altenhofen "it just shows your lack of maturity and complete insensitivity to Canada's French populace."
Would you say that to me in defense of your hero Trudeau the Younger or his political foe Mr Harper during the last election?
Methinks that you make a fine example of why many Maritimers (French and English and particularly Scottish ones) find German folks awful snobby N'esy Pas?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cFOKT6TlSE
Would you say that to me in defense of your hero Trudeau the Younger or his political foe Mr Harper during the last election?
Methinks that you make a fine example of why many Maritimers (French and English and particularly Scottish ones) find German folks awful snobby N'esy Pas?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cFOKT6TlSE
David Amos
@Joseph Cluster This the first portion of paragraph 83 of my lawsuit against the Queen
Federal Court File No: T-1557-15
83. The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over five years after he began his bragging:
January 13, 2015
This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate
December 8, 2014
Why Canada Stood Tall!
Friday, October 3, 2014
Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And
Stupid Justin Trudeau
Canada’s and Canadians free ride is over. Canada can no longer hide
behind Amerka’s and NATO’s skirts.
When I was still in Canadian Forces then Prime Minister Jean Chretien actually committed the Canadian Army to deploy in the second campaign in Iraq, the Coalition of the Willing. This was against or contrary to the wisdom or advice of those of us Canadian officers that were involved in the initial planning phases of that operation. There were significant concern in our planning cell, and NDHQ about of the dearth of concern for operational guidance, direction, and forces for operations after the initial occupation of Iraq. At the “last minute” Prime Minister Chretien and the Liberal government changed its mind. The Canadian government told our amerkan cousins that we would not deploy combat troops for the Iraq campaign, but would deploy a Canadian Battle Group to Afghanistan, enabling our amerkan cousins to redeploy troops from there to Iraq.
Federal Court File No: T-1557-15
83. The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over five years after he began his bragging:
January 13, 2015
This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate
December 8, 2014
Why Canada Stood Tall!
Friday, October 3, 2014
Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And
Stupid Justin Trudeau
Canada’s and Canadians free ride is over. Canada can no longer hide
behind Amerka’s and NATO’s skirts.
When I was still in Canadian Forces then Prime Minister Jean Chretien actually committed the Canadian Army to deploy in the second campaign in Iraq, the Coalition of the Willing. This was against or contrary to the wisdom or advice of those of us Canadian officers that were involved in the initial planning phases of that operation. There were significant concern in our planning cell, and NDHQ about of the dearth of concern for operational guidance, direction, and forces for operations after the initial occupation of Iraq. At the “last minute” Prime Minister Chretien and the Liberal government changed its mind. The Canadian government told our amerkan cousins that we would not deploy combat troops for the Iraq campaign, but would deploy a Canadian Battle Group to Afghanistan, enabling our amerkan cousins to redeploy troops from there to Iraq.
David Amos
@David Amos More
The PMO’s thinking that it was less costly to deploy Canadian Forces to Afghanistan than Iraq. But alas no one seems to remind the Liberals of Prime Minister Chretien’s then grossly incorrect assumption. Notwithstanding Jean Chretien’s incompetence and stupidity, the Canadian Army was heroic, professional, punched well above it’s weight, and the PPCLI Battle Group, is credited with “saving Afghanistan” during the Panjway campaign of 2006.
What Justin Trudeau and the Liberals don’t tell you now, is that then Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien committed, and deployed the Canadian army to Canada’s longest “war” without the advice, consent, support, or vote of the Canadian Parliament.
What David Amos and the rest of the ignorant, uneducated, and babbling chattering classes are too addled to understand is the deployment of less than 75 special operations troops, and what is known by planners as a “six pac cell” of fighter aircraft is NOT the same as a deployment of a Battle Group, nor a “war” make.
The Canadian Government or The Crown unlike our amerkan cousins have the “constitutional authority” to commit the Canadian nation to war. That has been recently clearly articulated to the Canadian public by constitutional scholar Phillippe Legasse. What Parliament can do is remove “confidence” in The Crown’s Government in a “vote of non-confidence.” That could not happen to the Chretien Government regarding deployment to Afghanistan, and it won’t happen in this instance with the conservative majority in The Commons regarding a limited Canadian deployment to the Middle East.
The PMO’s thinking that it was less costly to deploy Canadian Forces to Afghanistan than Iraq. But alas no one seems to remind the Liberals of Prime Minister Chretien’s then grossly incorrect assumption. Notwithstanding Jean Chretien’s incompetence and stupidity, the Canadian Army was heroic, professional, punched well above it’s weight, and the PPCLI Battle Group, is credited with “saving Afghanistan” during the Panjway campaign of 2006.
What Justin Trudeau and the Liberals don’t tell you now, is that then Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien committed, and deployed the Canadian army to Canada’s longest “war” without the advice, consent, support, or vote of the Canadian Parliament.
What David Amos and the rest of the ignorant, uneducated, and babbling chattering classes are too addled to understand is the deployment of less than 75 special operations troops, and what is known by planners as a “six pac cell” of fighter aircraft is NOT the same as a deployment of a Battle Group, nor a “war” make.
The Canadian Government or The Crown unlike our amerkan cousins have the “constitutional authority” to commit the Canadian nation to war. That has been recently clearly articulated to the Canadian public by constitutional scholar Phillippe Legasse. What Parliament can do is remove “confidence” in The Crown’s Government in a “vote of non-confidence.” That could not happen to the Chretien Government regarding deployment to Afghanistan, and it won’t happen in this instance with the conservative majority in The Commons regarding a limited Canadian deployment to the Middle East.
David Amos
@David Amos More
President George Bush was quite correct after 911 and the terror attacks in New York; that the Taliban “occupied” and “failed state” Afghanistan was the source of logistical support, command and control, and training for the Al Quaeda war of terror against the world. The initial defeat, and removal from control of Afghanistan was vital and essential for the security and tranquility of the developed world. An ISIS “caliphate,” in the Middle East, no matter how small, is a clear and present danger to the entire world. This “occupied state,” or“failed state” will prosecute an unending Islamic inspired war of terror against not only the “western world,” but Arab states “moderate” or not, as well. The security, safety, and tranquility of Canada and Canadians are just at risk now with the emergence of an ISIS“caliphate” no matter how large or small, as it was with the Taliban and Al Quaeda “marriage” in Afghanistan.
President George Bush was quite correct after 911 and the terror attacks in New York; that the Taliban “occupied” and “failed state” Afghanistan was the source of logistical support, command and control, and training for the Al Quaeda war of terror against the world. The initial defeat, and removal from control of Afghanistan was vital and essential for the security and tranquility of the developed world. An ISIS “caliphate,” in the Middle East, no matter how small, is a clear and present danger to the entire world. This “occupied state,” or“failed state” will prosecute an unending Islamic inspired war of terror against not only the “western world,” but Arab states “moderate” or not, as well. The security, safety, and tranquility of Canada and Canadians are just at risk now with the emergence of an ISIS“caliphate” no matter how large or small, as it was with the Taliban and Al Quaeda “marriage” in Afghanistan.
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@David Amos More
One of the everlasting “legacies” of the “Trudeau the Elder’s dynasty was Canada and successive Liberal governments cowering behind the amerkan’s nuclear and conventional military shield, at the same time denigrating, insulting them, opposing them, and at the same time self-aggrandizing ourselves as “peace keepers,” and progenitors of “world peace.” Canada failed. The United States of Amerka, NATO, the G7 and or G20 will no longer permit that sort of sanctimonious behavior from Canada or its government any longer. And Prime Minister Stephen Harper, Foreign Minister John Baird , and Cabinet are fully cognizant of that reality. Even if some editorial boards, and pundits are not.
Justin, Trudeau “the younger” is reprising the time “honoured” liberal mantra, and tradition of expecting the amerkans or the rest of the world to do “the heavy lifting.” Justin Trudeau and his “butt buddy” David Amos are telling Canadians that we can guarantee our security and safety by expecting other nations to fight for us. That Canada can and should attempt to guarantee Canadians safety by providing “humanitarian aid” somewhere, and call a sitting US president a “war criminal.” This morning Australia announced they too, were sending tactical aircraft to eliminate the menace of an ISIS “caliphate.”
One of the everlasting “legacies” of the “Trudeau the Elder’s dynasty was Canada and successive Liberal governments cowering behind the amerkan’s nuclear and conventional military shield, at the same time denigrating, insulting them, opposing them, and at the same time self-aggrandizing ourselves as “peace keepers,” and progenitors of “world peace.” Canada failed. The United States of Amerka, NATO, the G7 and or G20 will no longer permit that sort of sanctimonious behavior from Canada or its government any longer. And Prime Minister Stephen Harper, Foreign Minister John Baird , and Cabinet are fully cognizant of that reality. Even if some editorial boards, and pundits are not.
Justin, Trudeau “the younger” is reprising the time “honoured” liberal mantra, and tradition of expecting the amerkans or the rest of the world to do “the heavy lifting.” Justin Trudeau and his “butt buddy” David Amos are telling Canadians that we can guarantee our security and safety by expecting other nations to fight for us. That Canada can and should attempt to guarantee Canadians safety by providing “humanitarian aid” somewhere, and call a sitting US president a “war criminal.” This morning Australia announced they too, were sending tactical aircraft to eliminate the menace of an ISIS “caliphate.”
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@David Amos More
In one sense Prime Minister Harper is every bit the scoundrel Trudeau “the elder” and Jean ‘the crook” Chretien was. Just As Trudeau, and successive Liberal governments delighted in diminishing, marginalizing, under funding Canadian Forces, and sending Canadian military men and women to die with inadequate kit and modern equipment; so too is Prime Minister Stephen Harper. Canada’s F-18s are antiquated, poorly equipped, and ought to have been replaced five years ago. But alas, there won’t be single RCAF fighter jock that won’t go, or won’t want to go, to make Canada safe or safer.
My Grandfather served this country. My father served this country. My Uncle served this country. And I have served this country. Justin Trudeau has not served Canada in any way. Thomas Mulcair has not served this country in any way. Liberals and so called social democrats haven’t served this country in any way. David Amos, and other drooling fools have not served this great nation in any way. Yet these fools are more than prepared to ensure their, our safety to other nations, and then criticize them for doing so.
Canada must again, now, “do our bit” to guarantee our own security, and tranquility, but also that of the world. Canada has never before shirked its responsibility to its citizens and that of the world.
Prime Minister Harper will not permit this country to do so now
There is LOTS MORE
William Carver
@David Amos
saving Afghanistan?
I suppose it depends on the metrics considered.
saving Afghanistan?
I suppose it depends on the metrics considered.
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David Amos
@William Carver Methinks its rather hard to consider anything I posted after CBC deleted so many of my comments N'esy Pas?
Myron deNiverville
This CBC website could use a barrel of whitewash and someone that knows how to design a website that's easier to use.
David Amos
@Myron deNiverville YUP
Joseph Cluster
Wife had an Uncle that
received a compensation package for the effects of getting sprayed with
this chemical. He was grateful for the monies received but chuckled at
the actual amount in relation to the suffering he went through.
David Amos
@Joseph Cluster Chuckles eh?
I remember dealing with this Agent Orange issue as I ran in the election of the 39th Parliament in the Fredericton riding while CBC laughed and ignored me as I was barred me from the debates even an all candidates debate they hosted on the UNB campus. Later I was ordered from UNB polling station under threat of arrest because they did not believe I was the guy whose name was on the ballot.
Methinks that at least your uncle is 20 grand ahead of me with any settlement with the crooks Perhaps that why he chuckled N'esy Pas?
I remember dealing with this Agent Orange issue as I ran in the election of the 39th Parliament in the Fredericton riding while CBC laughed and ignored me as I was barred me from the debates even an all candidates debate they hosted on the UNB campus. Later I was ordered from UNB polling station under threat of arrest because they did not believe I was the guy whose name was on the ballot.
Methinks that at least your uncle is 20 grand ahead of me with any settlement with the crooks Perhaps that why he chuckled N'esy Pas?
Aaron Morris
@David Amos
Looks like someone has been smoking to much 2,4,5-T
Looks like someone has been smoking to much 2,4,5-T
Aaron Morris
@Aaron Morris
two*
;)
two*
;)
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David Amos
David Amos
@Aaron Morris Methinks that we all know that you brag too much N'esy Pas?
Robbie Adams
"""Agent Orange was sprayed at CFB Gagetown in 1966 and 1967 by the U.S. military, with permission from Canada."""
Pollute our country. No bases in the US where they could have tested the stuff. Maybe the yanks should be paying for all of this
Pollute our country. No bases in the US where they could have tested the stuff. Maybe the yanks should be paying for all of this
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David Amos
David Amos
@Robbie Adams Methinks you should ask Monsanto what they thinks of your idea N'esy Pas?
Jason Martin
The government fought
veterans seeking benefits for illness from exposure to agent Orange for
decades. They refused to admit culpability. Sound familiar?
February 1, 2018
Justin Trudeau, "Because veterans are asking for more than the government can give right now".
One and done in 2019.
February 1, 2018
Justin Trudeau, "Because veterans are asking for more than the government can give right now".
One and done in 2019.
Mike Trout
@Jason Martin
This says it all about the "pm" Justin and his Liberal "government".
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/justin-trudeau-town-hall-edmonton-1.4515822
ABTL 2019
This says it all about the "pm" Justin and his Liberal "government".
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/justin-trudeau-town-hall-edmonton-1.4515822
ABTL 2019
David Amos
@Mike Trout Anyone believe this?
"I have pledged, and I did pledge and I will continue to pledge that I will do right by you," Trudeau said. "The changes that we've made to our support for veterans are based around recognizing where we went wrong before."
Survey Says?
"I have pledged, and I did pledge and I will continue to pledge that I will do right by you," Trudeau said. "The changes that we've made to our support for veterans are based around recognizing where we went wrong before."
Survey Says?
carol e. kudla
our not so clean past! we have nothing to brag about with any of our governments' behaviour. now or then
Curtis Harvey
@carol e. kudla - When it
comes right down to it the liberals have been far, more despicable in
their actions toward our veterans and soldiers as a whole than the
Conservatives and the Conservatives treated them very badly indeed.
David Amos
@Curtis Harvey Methinks the
Conservatives were far worse because they are the ones who put our
Armed Forces in harms way in 2006 for no good reason whatsoever N'esy
Pas?
James Watson
"We're from the Government and we're here to help you"?
Scariest words you are ever gong to hear!
Scariest words you are ever gong to hear!
David Amos
@James Watson Every time a politician or bureaucrat say the words "How can I help you?" I hang up the phone
Michael Larsne
@David Amos right up there with "Believe me ..."
Stephen McIntyre
"I would speculate that the government would have taken it more seriously if he had come forward earlier"
Ha! I speculate that the government would have buried his testimony deeper than the barrels. This man, the messenger, is not the problem.
Ha! I speculate that the government would have buried his testimony deeper than the barrels. This man, the messenger, is not the problem.
David Amos
@Stephen McIntyre Methinks
this revelation is way past too late for most of the old veterans Money
ain't much good to the dead and dying and the crooks who ordered the
barrels hidden are no doubt long gone as well N'esy Pas?
Scott Wilson
Trump uses it to color his hair.
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David Amos
@Karin Bougie "Just like the guy on here making this about Trudeau, your Trump obsession is just as bad."
Methinks because of your comment I will singing Stormy Monday all day maybe some other folks will join in N'esy Pas?
Methinks because of your comment I will singing Stormy Monday all day maybe some other folks will join in N'esy Pas?
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David Amos
@David Amos Why on earth would CBC block that comment?
Matthew Smith
C'mon! without Agent Orange we wouldn't have had the money to develop Round-Up...same company Monsanto/Dow...
Matthew Smith
@Richard Nichols Do they not teach it in school any longer???
David Amos
@Matthew Smith YUP
Michael G. L. Geraldson
I wouldn't be at all
surprised if they and many other dangerous substances were buried there
and around the rest of the country. Not that I'm excusing it, but those
with different times with a different mindset. I also remember planes
flying overhead in the summer and fogging entire towns with
insecticides, something nobody would tolerate today.
@Michael G. L. Geraldson
Methinks they are spraying the same stuff today all over the province It
just has a different name tis all N'esy Pas?
Glen robert
What about all the chemicals left in bases in the far north?
Jean St. Amour
@Glen robert
Oh the thousands of liters of PCB's that the Americans left behind after they abandoned all their radar stations that we let them build in Canada?
Oh the thousands of liters of PCB's that the Americans left behind after they abandoned all their radar stations that we let them build in Canada?
David Amos
@Jean St. Amour Good point
John Sollows
Back in the late '60's/early
'70's there was an American proposal to build the world's largest power
source (12,000 MW) on a small island in SW Nova Scotia. Nuclear, of
course.
Local lobster fishermen expressed concern about how it might affect their livelihood, and there were a few other questions raised. Reassuring "No evidences.." abounded.
Then a local author said, "Why aren't they building it on their side of the water?"
And there has been dead silence ... ever since.
Thank you, Hattie Perry. R.I.P.
Local lobster fishermen expressed concern about how it might affect their livelihood, and there were a few other questions raised. Reassuring "No evidences.." abounded.
Then a local author said, "Why aren't they building it on their side of the water?"
And there has been dead silence ... ever since.
Thank you, Hattie Perry. R.I.P.
David Amos
@John Sollows Have you read NAFTA or FATCA?
Murray Darren
Here we go again folks Blame it on Harper lol
Kathy Altenhofen
@Murray Darren Another whiny rightie....
David Amos
@Kathy Altenhofen "Another whiny rightie...."
Methinks you are the polar opposite Nesy Pas?
Methinks you are the polar opposite Nesy Pas?
John Sollows
It would be nice to know what's buried at various other former American operations.
There's a large, fenced-in area not far from a former American base in Baccaro. N.S., for instance.
Don't know why it's fenced in. Maybe CBC could investigate...
There's a large, fenced-in area not far from a former American base in Baccaro. N.S., for instance.
Don't know why it's fenced in. Maybe CBC could investigate...
David Amos
@John Sollows Good luck with that one.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/agent-orange-gagetown-burial-1.4675444
There are more Agent Orange barrels out there, says former DND employee
Minister Sajjan insists CFB Gagetown is safe - but critics are calling for new soil tests
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Tom Simpson
I dont see why this is issue.
If someone claims there's still barrels in a certain location, check.
The people that buried it are long since retired or gone. No one is
going to blame the current management for deeds from the past (if they
didn't know about it of course).
David Amos
@Brad Arvisais "I agree, let's have a look."
How can you look when the comments are blocked?
How can you look when the comments are blocked?
CBC regarding our national
security can you bring the story about Plattsburgh hotels who are
distributing panflet with guidance to how enter to canada illegally
Than you
Than you
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David Amos
@Chantal LeBouthi Methinks CBC should explain why they blocked so many comments yesterday N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@David Amos #1
Joseph Cluster
"The excavation Sajjan spoke
of also took place in 1985 and involved the recovery of 637 uncrushed
barrels — 104 of which contained some form of "liquid," according to DND
— and another 135 drums that had been crushed."
I ask why was the military burying barrels of chemicals in the first place? If I was to bury just one barrel the ministry would have my hide.
I ask why was the military burying barrels of chemicals in the first place? If I was to bury just one barrel the ministry would have my hide.
Joseph Cluster
@Margaret Lambert
Right now there's two wrongs trying to make it right.
1: It buried in the first place
2: Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan says the base is "safe"
Right now there's two wrongs trying to make it right.
1: It buried in the first place
2: Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan says the base is "safe"
David Amos
@Joseph Cluster Methinks Minister Harjit Sajjan must know where the barrels are now N'esy Pas?
steve jackson
Our Minister of Defense aka architect of many battles knows nothing I am sure.
David Amos
@steve jackson Me Too.
sue black
Disgusting the way military
brass treat the grunts and the civilians in nations they target.Was a
time when troops wore safety gear to handle depleted uranium WMDs.Not
today!Serbia now suing NATO for cancers caused by these evil weapons
deployed on them in the 90s
Read how national anthems are used as a military propaganda tool at sporting.War machine are masters at manipulating "patriotism".Continued support for the US military complex after decades of them destroying nations so multinationals can profit is proof how effective their propaganda is
Read how national anthems are used as a military propaganda tool at sporting.War machine are masters at manipulating "patriotism".Continued support for the US military complex after decades of them destroying nations so multinationals can profit is proof how effective their propaganda is
Brian Cohen
@Paul Whittaker
depleted uranium was used during the Gulf War, but was not the cause of any increase in cancer rates.
Depleted and natural uranium are toxic as a heavy metal, not as a carcinogen.
Roundup is not Agent Orange.
Glyphosate is a broad-spectrum, non-selective herbicide used for weed control on rights-of way, forestry plantations and in-site preparations for planting of crops, as well as for domestic control of plants. It is NOT a "nerve gas".
depleted uranium was used during the Gulf War, but was not the cause of any increase in cancer rates.
Depleted and natural uranium are toxic as a heavy metal, not as a carcinogen.
Roundup is not Agent Orange.
Glyphosate is a broad-spectrum, non-selective herbicide used for weed control on rights-of way, forestry plantations and in-site preparations for planting of crops, as well as for domestic control of plants. It is NOT a "nerve gas".
David Amos
@Brian Cohen Oh my
Roy T. Gilroy
Knowing the minister of
defenses past record I wouldn't believe a word that comes out of his
mouth, someone needs to take a second look.
David Amos
@Roy T. Gilroy YUP
Gemma Schofield
If there was nothing to hide,
why not grant access to the site? Re: CBC News asked for access to the
base so White could show defence officials where he saw the barrels
being buried. The request was denied. Sajjan showed no sign Wednesday of
reversing that decision.
Rudy Baker
@Gemma Schofield
That was the first thing that crossed my mind as well. If you have nothing to hide, then what’s the problem?
That was the first thing that crossed my mind as well. If you have nothing to hide, then what’s the problem?
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David Amos
@Rudy Baker Methinks that why
CBC published these articles in the first place However now that they
are blocking so many comments you should ask what are they hiding N'esy
Pas?
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David Amos
@David Amos #2
Eric V. Zepplin
yep and you wonder why the cancer rate in older Canadians are so high in the Gagetown area of New Brunswick
David Amos
@Eric V. Zepplin I don't
Jim S Powers
then clean it up if more has been found
That chemical is still affecting new born in Vietnam and we do not need it getting into our water table in Canada
That chemical is still affecting new born in Vietnam and we do not need it getting into our water table in Canada
David Amos
@Jim S Powers I agree
Garry Moore
Why is Sajan still the MND?
David Amos
@Garry Moore Politics
Peter Boone
I am sure that the Amazin
Sajjan completely planned the removal of all those old Agent Orange
Barrels and we now have nothing to worry about. He couldn't have
missed any so sleep well Canada.
David Amos
@Peter Boone Methinks thou doth jest too much N'esy Pas?
Matt Helm
@David Amos
you are nuts, n'est ce pas?
you are nuts, n'est ce pas?
Matt Helm
What fools these mortals be.
Patrick Ohana
@Matt Helm What fools humans are! Much respect to all other animals.
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David Amos
David Amos
@Matt Helm "What fools these mortals be." ???
Hmmm Within a comment section about to close you insult my wordplay of the old bard's work then turn around and employ him for your own political ends?
Methinks Stupid Is As Stupid Does N'esy Pas?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/agent-orange-gagetown-burial-1.4675444
David Amos
@Peter Boone Methinks thou doth jest too much N'esy Pas?
Matt Helm
@David Amos
you are nuts, n'est ce pas?
NOPE BUT CBC CERTAINLY IS N'ESY PAS?
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David Amos
Steve Whitaker
Lisa Smith
al mark
https://www.middlebury.edu/
Dr. Jeffrey Lewis
499 Van Buren Street, Rm. 229
Tel (831) 647-6616
Email jlewis@miis.edu
http://davidraymondamos3.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/
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David Amos
@Joseph Cluster Methinks Murray Brewster should read paragraph 83 of
my lawsuit against the Queen sometime N'esy Pas?
http://davidraymondamos3.
83. The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war
in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to
allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over
five years after he began his bragging:
January 13, 2015
This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate
December 8, 2014
Why Canada Stood Tall!
Friday, October 3, 2014
Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And
Stupid Justin Trudeau
Canada’s and Canadians free ride is over. Canada can no longer hide
behind Amerka’s and NATO’s skirts.
When I was still in Canadian Forces then Prime Minister Jean Chretien
actually committed the Canadian Army to deploy in the second campaign
in Iraq, the Coalition of the Willing. This was against or contrary to
the wisdom or advice of those of us Canadian officers that were
involved in the initial planning phases of that operation. There were
significant concern in our planning cell, and NDHQ about of the dearth
of concern for operational guidance, direction, and forces for
operations after the initial occupation of Iraq. At the “last minute”
Prime Minister Chretien and the Liberal government changed its mind.
The Canadian government told our amerkan cousins that we would not
deploy combat troops for the Iraq campaign, but would deploy a
Canadian Battle Group to Afghanistan, enabling our amerkan cousins to
redeploy troops from there to Iraq. The PMO’s thinking that it was
less costly to deploy Canadian Forces to Afghanistan than Iraq. But
alas no one seems to remind the Liberals of Prime Minister Chretien’s
then grossly incorrect assumption. Notwithstanding Jean Chretien’s
incompetence and stupidity, the Canadian Army was heroic,
professional, punched well above it’s weight, and the PPCLI Battle
Group, is credited with “saving Afghanistan” during the Panjway
campaign of 2006.
What Justin Trudeau and the Liberals don’t tell you now, is that then
Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien committed, and deployed the
Canadian army to Canada’s longest “war” without the advice, consent,
support, or vote of the Canadian Parliament.
What David Amos and the rest of the ignorant, uneducated, and babbling
chattering classes are too addled to understand is the deployment of
less than 75 special operations troops, and what is known by planners
as a “six pac cell” of fighter aircraft is NOT the same as a
deployment of a Battle Group, nor a “war” make.
The Canadian Government or The Crown unlike our amerkan cousins have
the “constitutional authority” to commit the Canadian nation to war.
That has been recently clearly articulated to the Canadian public by
constitutional scholar Phillippe Legasse. What Parliament can do is
remove “confidence” in The Crown’s Government in a “vote of
non-confidence.” That could not happen to the Chretien Government
regarding deployment to Afghanistan, and it won’t happen in this
instance with the conservative majority in The Commons regarding a
limited Canadian deployment to the Middle East.
President George Bush was quite correct after 911 and the terror
attacks in New York; that the Taliban “occupied” and “failed state”
Afghanistan was the source of logistical support, command and control,
and training for the Al Quaeda war of terror against the world. The
initial defeat, and removal from control of Afghanistan was vital and
essential for the security and tranquility of the developed world. An
ISIS “caliphate,” in the Middle East, no matter how small, is a clear
and present danger to the entire world. This “occupied state,”
or“failed state” will prosecute an unending Islamic inspired war of
terror against not only the “western world,” but Arab states
“moderate” or not, as well. The security, safety, and tranquility of
Canada and Canadians are just at risk now with the emergence of an
ISIS“caliphate” no matter how large or small, as it was with the
Taliban and Al Quaeda “marriage” in Afghanistan.
One of the everlasting “legacies” of the “Trudeau the Elder’s dynasty
was Canada and successive Liberal governments cowering behind the
amerkan’s nuclear and conventional military shield, at the same time
denigrating, insulting them, opposing them, and at the same time
self-aggrandizing ourselves as “peace keepers,” and progenitors of
“world peace.” Canada failed. The United States of Amerka, NATO, the
G7 and or G20 will no longer permit that sort of sanctimonious
behavior from Canada or its government any longer. And Prime Minister
Stephen Harper, Foreign Minister John Baird , and Cabinet are fully
cognizant of that reality. Even if some editorial boards, and pundits
are not.
Justin, Trudeau “the younger” is reprising the time “honoured” liberal
mantra, and tradition of expecting the amerkans or the rest of the
world to do “the heavy lifting.” Justin Trudeau and his “butt buddy”
David Amos are telling Canadians that we can guarantee our security
and safety by expecting other nations to fight for us. That Canada can
and should attempt to guarantee Canadians safety by providing
“humanitarian aid” somewhere, and call a sitting US president a “war
criminal.” This morning Australia announced they too, were sending
tactical aircraft to eliminate the menace of an ISIS “caliphate.”
In one sense Prime Minister Harper is every bit the scoundrel Trudeau
“the elder” and Jean ‘the crook” Chretien was. Just As Trudeau, and
successive Liberal governments delighted in diminishing,
marginalizing, under funding Canadian Forces, and sending Canadian
military men and women to die with inadequate kit and modern
equipment; so too is Prime Minister Stephen Harper. Canada’s F-18s are
antiquated, poorly equipped, and ought to have been replaced five
years ago. But alas, there won’t be single RCAF fighter jock that
won’t go, or won’t want to go, to make Canada safe or safer.
My Grandfather served this country. My father served this country. My
Uncle served this country. And I have served this country. Justin
Trudeau has not served Canada in any way. Thomas Mulcair has not
served this country in any way. Liberals and so called social
democrats haven’t served this country in any way. David Amos, and
other drooling fools have not served this great nation in any way. Yet
these fools are more than prepared to ensure their, our safety to
other nations, and then criticize them for doing so.
Canada must again, now, “do our bit” to guarantee our own security,
and tranquility, but also that of the world. Canada has never before
shirked its responsibility to its citizens and that of the world.
Prime Minister Harper will not permit this country to do so now
From: dnd_mdn@forces.gc.ca
Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 14:17:17 -0400
Subject: RE: Re Greg Weston, The CBC , Wikileaks, USSOCOM, Canada and
the War in Iraq (I just called SOCOM and let them know I was still
alive
To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
This is to confirm that the Minister of National Defence has received
your email and it will be reviewed in due course. Please do not reply
to this message: it is an automatic acknowledgement.
>>>>
---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 13:55:30 -0300
Subject: Re Greg Weston, The CBC , Wikileaks, USSOCOM, Canada and the
War in Iraq (I just called SOCOM and let them know I was still alive
To: DECPR@forces.gc.ca, Public.Affairs@socom.mil,
Raymonde.Cleroux@mpcc-cppm.gc.
william.elliott@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
dnd_mdn@forces.gc.ca, media@drdc-rddc.gc.ca, information@forces.gc.ca,
milner@unb.ca, charters@unb.ca, lwindsor@unb.ca,
sarah.weir@mpcc-cppm.gc.ca, birgir <birgir@althingi.is>, smari
<smari@immi.is>, greg.weston@cbc.ca, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>,
susan@blueskystrategygroup.com
eugene@blueskystrategygroup.
Cc: "Edith. Cody-Rice" <Edith.Cody-Rice@cbc.ca>, "terry.seguin"
<terry.seguin@cbc.ca>, acampbell <acampbell@ctv.ca>, whistleblower
<whistleblower@ctv.ca>
I talked to Don Newman earlier this week before the beancounters David
Dodge and Don Drummond now of Queen's gave their spin about Canada's
Health Care system yesterday and Sheila Fraser yapped on and on on
CAPAC during her last days in office as if she were oh so ethical.. To
be fair to him I just called Greg Weston (613-288-6938) I suggested
that he should at least Google SOUCOM and David Amos It would be wise
if he check ALL of CBC's sources before he publishes something else
about the DND EH Don Newman? Lets just say that the fact that your
old CBC buddy, Tony Burman is now in charge of Al Jazeera English
never impressed me. The fact that he set up a Canadian office is
interesting though
http://www.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/
Anyone can call me back and stress test my integrity after they read
this simple pdf file. BTW what you Blue Sky dudes pubished about
Potash Corp and BHP is truly funny. Perhaps Stevey Boy Harper or Brad
Wall will fill ya in if you are to shy to call mean old me.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/
The Governor General, the PMO and the PCO offices know that I am not a
shy political animal
Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos
902 800 0369
Enjoy Mr Weston
http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/
"But Lang, defence minister McCallum's chief of staff, says military
brass were not entirely forthcoming on the issue. For instance, he
says, even McCallum initially didn't know those soldiers were helping
to plan the invasion of Iraq up to the highest levels of command,
including a Canadian general.
That general is Walt Natynczyk, now Canada's chief of defence staff,
who eight months after the invasion became deputy commander of 35,000
U.S. soldiers and other allied forces in Iraq. Lang says Natynczyk was
also part of the team of mainly senior U.S. military brass that helped
prepare for the invasion from a mobile command in Kuwait."
http://baconfat53.blogspot.
"I remember years ago when the debate was on in Canada, about there
being weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Our American 'friends"
demanded that Canada join into "the Coalition of the Willing. American
"veterans" and sportscasters loudly denounced Canada for NOT buying
into the US policy.
At the time I was serving as a planner at NDHQ and with 24 other of my
colleagues we went to Tampa SOUCOM HQ to be involved in the planning
in the planning stages of the op....and to report to NDHQ, that would
report to the PMO upon the merits of the proposed operation. There was
never at anytime an existing target list of verified sites where there
were deployed WMD.
Coalition assets were more than sufficient for the initial strike and
invasion phase but even at that point in the planning, we were
concerned about the number of "boots on the ground" for the occupation
(and end game) stage of an operation in Iraq. We were also concerned
about the American plans for occupation plans of Iraq because they at
that stage included no contingency for a handing over of civil
authority to a vetted Iraqi government and bureaucracy.
There was no detailed plan for Iraq being "liberated" and returned to
its people...nor a thought to an eventual exit plan. This was contrary
to the lessons of Vietnam but also to current military thought, that
folks like Colin Powell and "Stuffy" Leighton and others elucidated
upon. "What's the mission" how long is the mission, what conditions
are to met before US troop can redeploy? Prime Minister Jean Chretien
and the PMO were even at the very preliminary planning stages wary of
Canadian involvement in an Iraq operation....History would prove them
correct. The political pressure being applied on the PMO from the
George W Bush administration was onerous
American military assets were extremely overstretched, and Canadian
military assets even more so It was proposed by the PMO that Canadian
naval platforms would deploy to assist in naval quarantine operations
in the Gulf and that Canadian army assets would deploy in Afghanistan
thus permitting US army assets to redeploy for an Iraqi
operation....The PMO thought that "compromise would save Canadian
lives and liberal political capital.. and the priority of which
....not necessarily in that order. "
You can bet that I called these sneaky Yankees again today EH John
Adams? of the CSE within the DND?
http://www.socom.mil/
http://davidraymondamos3.
Wednesday, 16 May 2018
Yo Matt DeCourcey while you are explaining things to John Brassard why
not explain Federal Court File No T-1557-15 as well?
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 09:32:09 -0400
>> Subject: Attn Integrity Commissioner Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
>> To: coi@gnb.ca
>> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>
>> Good Day Sir
>>
>> After I heard you speak on CBC I called your office again and managed
>> to speak to one of your staff for the first time
>>
>> Please find attached the documents I promised to send to the lady who
>> answered the phone this morning. Please notice that not after the Sgt
>> at Arms took the documents destined to your office his pal Tanker
>> Malley barred me in writing with an "English" only document.
>>
>> These are the hearings and the dockets in Federal Court that I
>> suggested that you study closely.
>>
>> This is the docket in Federal Court
>>
>> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.
>>
>> These are digital recordings of the last three hearings
>>
>> Dec 14th https://archive.org/details/
>>
>> January 11th, 2016 https://archive.org/details/
>>
>> April 3rd, 2017
>>
>> https://archive.org/details/
>>
>>
>> This is the docket in the Federal Court of Appeal
>>
>> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.
>>
>>
>> The only hearing thus far
>>
>> May 24th, 2017
>>
>> https://archive.org/details/
>>
>>
>> This Judge understnds the meaning of the word Integrity
>>
>> Date: 20151223
>>
>> Docket: T-1557-15
>>
>> Fredericton, New Brunswick, December 23, 2015
>>
>> PRESENT: The Honourable Mr. Justice Bell
>>
>> BETWEEN:
>>
>> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
>>
>> Plaintiff
>>
>> and
>>
>> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
>>
>> Defendant
>>
>> ORDER
>>
>> (Delivered orally from the Bench in Fredericton, New Brunswick, on
>> December 14, 2015)
>>
>> The Plaintiff seeks an appeal de novo, by way of motion pursuant to
>> the Federal Courts Rules (SOR/98-106), from an Order made on November
>> 12, 2015, in which Prothonotary Morneau struck the Statement of Claim
>> in its entirety.
>>
>> At the outset of the hearing, the Plaintiff brought to my attention a
>> letter dated September 10, 2004, which he sent to me, in my then
>> capacity as Past President of the New Brunswick Branch of the Canadian
>> Bar Association, and the then President of the Branch, Kathleen Quigg,
>> (now a Justice of the New Brunswick Court of Appeal). In that letter
>> he stated:
>>
>> As for your past President, Mr. Bell, may I suggest that you check the
>> work of Frank McKenna before I sue your entire law firm including you.
>> You are your brother’s keeper.
>>
>> Frank McKenna is the former Premier of New Brunswick and a former
>> colleague of mine at the law firm of McInnes Cooper. In addition to
>> expressing an intention to sue me, the Plaintiff refers to a number of
>> people in his Motion Record who he appears to contend may be witnesses
>> or potential parties to be added. Those individuals who are known to
>> me personally, include, but are not limited to the former Prime
>> Minister of Canada, The Right Honourable Stephen Harper; former
>> Attorney General of Canada and now a Justice of the Manitoba Court of
>> Queen’s Bench, Vic Toews; former member of Parliament Rob Moore;
>> former Director of Policing Services, the late Grant Garneau; former
>> Chief of the Fredericton Police Force, Barry McKnight; former Staff
>> Sergeant Danny Copp; my former colleagues on the New Brunswick Court
>> of Appeal, Justices Bradley V. Green and Kathleen Quigg, and, retired
>> Assistant Commissioner Wayne Lang of the Royal Canadian Mounted
>> Police.
>>
>> In the circumstances, given the threat in 2004 to sue me in my
>> personal capacity and my past and present relationship with many
>> potential witnesses and/or potential parties to the litigation, I am
>> of the view there would be a reasonable apprehension of bias should I
>> hear this motion. See Justice de Grandpré’s dissenting judgment in
>> Committee for Justice and Liberty et al v National Energy Board et al,
>> [1978] 1 SCR 369 at p 394 for the applicable test regarding
>> allegations of bias. In the circumstances, although neither party has
>> requested I recuse myself, I consider it appropriate that I do so.
>>
>>
>> AS A RESULT OF MY RECUSAL, THIS COURT ORDERS that the Administrator of
>> the Court schedule another date for the hearing of the motion. There
>> is no order as to costs.
>>
>> “B. Richard Bell”
>> Judge
>>
>>
>> Below after the CBC article about your concerns (I made one comment
>> already) you will find the text of just two of many emails I had sent
>> to your office over the years since I first visited it in 2006.
>>
>> I noticed that on July 30, 2009, he was appointed to the the Court
>> Martial Appeal Court of Canada Perhaps you should scroll to the
>> bottom of this email ASAP and read the entire Paragraph 83 of my
>> lawsuit now before the Federal Court of Canada?
>>
>> "FYI This is the text of the lawsuit that should interest Trudeau the
>> most
>>
>>
>> ---------- Original message ----------
>> From: justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca
>> Date: Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:18 PM
>> Subject: Réponse automatique : RE My complaint against the CROWN in
>> Federal Court Attn David Hansen and Peter MacKay If you planning to
>> submit a motion for a publication ban on my complaint trust that you
>> dudes are way past too late
>> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>
>> Veuillez noter que j'ai changé de courriel. Vous pouvez me rejoindre à
>> lalanthier@hotmail.com
>>
>> Pour rejoindre le bureau de M. Trudeau veuillez envoyer un courriel à
>> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
>>
>> Please note that I changed email address, you can reach me at
>> lalanthier@hotmail.com
>>
>> To reach the office of Mr. Trudeau please send an email to
>> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Merci ,
>>
>>
>> http://davidraymondamos3.
>>
>>
>> 83. The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war
>> in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to
>> allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over
>> five years after he began his bragging:
>>
>> January 13, 2015
>> This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate
>>
>> December 8, 2014
>> Why Canada Stood Tall!
>>
>> Friday, October 3, 2014
>> Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And
>> Stupid Justin Trudeau
>>
>> Canada’s and Canadians free ride is over. Canada can no longer hide
>> behind Amerka’s and NATO’s skirts.
>>
>> When I was still in Canadian Forces then Prime Minister Jean Chretien
>> actually committed the Canadian Army to deploy in the second campaign
>> in Iraq, the Coalition of the Willing. This was against or contrary to
>> the wisdom or advice of those of us Canadian officers that were
>> involved in the initial planning phases of that operation. There were
>> significant concern in our planning cell, and NDHQ about of the dearth
>> of concern for operational guidance, direction, and forces for
>> operations after the initial occupation of Iraq. At the “last minute”
>> Prime Minister Chretien and the Liberal government changed its mind.
>> The Canadian government told our amerkan cousins that we would not
>> deploy combat troops for the Iraq campaign, but would deploy a
>> Canadian Battle Group to Afghanistan, enabling our amerkan cousins to
>> redeploy troops from there to Iraq. The PMO’s thinking that it was
>> less costly to deploy Canadian Forces to Afghanistan than Iraq. But
>> alas no one seems to remind the Liberals of Prime Minister Chretien’s
>> then grossly incorrect assumption. Notwithstanding Jean Chretien’s
>> incompetence and stupidity, the Canadian Army was heroic,
>> professional, punched well above it’s weight, and the PPCLI Battle
>> Group, is credited with “saving Afghanistan” during the Panjway
>> campaign of 2006.
>>
>> What Justin Trudeau and the Liberals don’t tell you now, is that then
>> Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien committed, and deployed the
>> Canadian army to Canada’s longest “war” without the advice, consent,
>> support, or vote of the Canadian Parliament.
>>
>> What David Amos and the rest of the ignorant, uneducated, and babbling
>> chattering classes are too addled to understand is the deployment of
>> less than 75 special operations troops, and what is known by planners
>> as a “six pac cell” of fighter aircraft is NOT the same as a
>> deployment of a Battle Group, nor a “war” make.
>>
>> The Canadian Government or The Crown unlike our amerkan cousins have
>> the “constitutional authority” to commit the Canadian nation to war.
>> That has been recently clearly articulated to the Canadian public by
>> constitutional scholar Phillippe Legasse. What Parliament can do is
>> remove “confidence” in The Crown’s Government in a “vote of
>> non-confidence.” That could not happen to the Chretien Government
>> regarding deployment to Afghanistan, and it won’t happen in this
>> instance with the conservative majority in The Commons regarding a
>> limited Canadian deployment to the Middle East.
>>
>> President George Bush was quite correct after 911 and the terror
>> attacks in New York; that the Taliban “occupied” and “failed state”
>> Afghanistan was the source of logistical support, command and control,
>> and training for the Al Quaeda war of terror against the world. The
>> initial defeat, and removal from control of Afghanistan was vital and
>>
>> P.S. Whereas this CBC article is about your opinion of the actions of
>> the latest Minister Of Health trust that Mr Boudreau and the CBC have
>> had my files for many years and the last thing they are is ethical.
>> Ask his friends Mr Murphy and the RCMP if you don't believe me.
>>
>> Subject:
>> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:02:35 -0400
>> From: "Murphy, Michael B. \(DH/MS\)" MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca
>> To: motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>>
>> January 30, 2007
>>
>> WITHOUT PREJUDICE
>>
>> Mr. David Amos
>>
>> Dear Mr. Amos:
>>
>> This will acknowledge receipt of a copy of your e-mail of December 29,
>> 2006 to Corporal Warren McBeath of the RCMP.
>>
>> Because of the nature of the allegations made in your message, I have
>> taken the measure of forwarding a copy to Assistant Commissioner Steve
>> Graham of the RCMP “J” Division in Fredericton.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Honourable Michael B. Murphy
>> Minister of Health
>>
>> CM/cb
>>
>>
>> Warren McBeath warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca wrote:
>>
>> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:34:53 -0500
>> From: "Warren McBeath" warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>> To: kilgoursite@ca.inter.net, MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca,
>> nada.sarkis@gnb.ca, wally.stiles@gnb.ca, dwatch@web.net,
>> motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>> CC: ottawa@chuckstrahl.com, riding@chuckstrahl.com,John.
>> Oda.B@parl.gc.ca,"Bev BUSSON" bev.busson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
>> "Paul Dube" PAUL.DUBE@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>> Subject: Re: Remember me Kilgour? Landslide Annie McLellan has
>> forgotten me but the crooks within the RCMP have not
>>
>> Dear Mr. Amos,
>>
>> Thank you for your follow up e-mail to me today. I was on days off
>> over the holidays and returned to work this evening. Rest assured I
>> was not ignoring or procrastinating to respond to your concerns.
>>
>> As your attachment sent today refers from Premier Graham, our position
>> is clear on your dead calf issue: Our forensic labs do not process
>> testing on animals in cases such as yours, they are referred to the
>> Atlantic Veterinary College in Charlottetown who can provide these
>> services. If you do not choose to utilize their expertise in this
>> instance, then that is your decision and nothing more can be done.
>>
>> As for your other concerns regarding the US Government, false
>> imprisonment and Federal Court Dates in the US, etc... it is clear
>> that Federal authorities are aware of your concerns both in Canada
>> the US. These issues do not fall into the purvue of Detachment
>> and policing in Petitcodiac, NB.
>>
>> It was indeed an interesting and informative conversation we had on
>> December 23rd, and I wish you well in all of your future endeavors.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Warren McBeath, Cpl.
>> GRC Caledonia RCMP
>> Traffic Services NCO
>> Ph: (506) 387-2222
>> Fax: (506) 387-4622
>> E-mail warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>>
>>
>>
>> Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
>> Office of the Integrity Commissioner
>> Edgecombe House, 736 King Street
>> Fredericton, N.B. CANADA E3B 5H1
>> tel.: 506-457-7890
>> fax: 506-444-5224
>> e-mail:coi@gnb.ca
>>
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-north-korea-summit-kim-1.4675946
U.S.
President Donald Trump quickly agreed to a historic summit with North
Korea earlier this year after meeting with South Korean officials at the
White House, but cancelled it Thursday, citing North Korea's 'anger and
open hostility.' (Kevin Lamarque/KCNA/Reuters)
North Korea is responding to U.S. President Donald Trump's decision to cancel a planned summit between the leaders of the two countries, saying it is ready to talk.
Kim Kye-gwan, North Korea's foreign minister, said in a statement published by state-run media that the U.S. decision was not in line with the "world's desire."
"We tell the United States once more that we are open to resolving problems at any time in any way," he said.
Trump said that the U.S. decided to walk away from the June 12 meeting with Kim Jong-un because of "open hostility" in Kim's most recent statement.
The public letter addressed to the North Korean regime was released Thursday by the White House.
"Sadly based on the tremendous anger and open hostility displayed in your most recent statement, I feel it is inappropriate, at this time, to have this long-planned meeting," said Trump.
Trump said in the letter, and in a subsequent address at the White House, that he still looked forward to meeting Kim one day but expressed regret that a "wonderful dialogue" had taken a turn.
"The world, and North Korea in particular, has lost a great opportunity for lasting peace and great prosperity and wealth," the president said.
Trump
said he believed "Kim Jong-un wants to do what's right" in response to a
reporter's question, but said earlier that the U.S. will continue its
campaign of maximum pressure to get North Korea to abandon its nuclear
program.
Trump said he had informed the Pentagon and allies South Korea and Japan of his decision.
The president said he hoped North Korea would re-engage in constructive dialogue but that the U.S. military was "more than ready" to respond to any reckless actions.
"Nobody should be anxious, but we have to get it right," he said.
Donald Trump says he's waiting for Kim Jong-un to engage in 'constructive dialogue' after calling off North Korea summit. 0:50
A
sitting U.S. president has never met face to face with the three
members of the Kim family who have ruled North Korea for several
decades, but hopes sprang up after a surprising chain of events in
recent weeks.
The response from the Americans comes as North Korea claimed on Thursday to have demolished its sole nuclear test site before a gathering of select foreign journalists, though not international inspectors.
In recent days, however, North Korea had dialled up its rhetoric, focusing on comments made by U.S. Vice-President Mike Pence and National Security Adviser John Bolton in interviews.
The
North Korean government referred to Pence as a "political dummy" and
said it was just as ready to meet in a nuclear confrontation as at the
negotiating table. Bolton's comments were poorly received as he compared
North Korea to Libya, where dictator Moammar Gadhafi was ultimately
deposed and killed sometime after halting his pursuit of nuclear
weapons.
Trump's Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, in his previous capacity as CIA director, has met with Kim.
But doubts began to emerge that the summit between Trump and Kim would come off as early as last week, when North Korea called off planned talks with South Korea, which has been mediating between the two countries.
Pompeo
read Trump's letter in its entirety Thursday as the Senate's foreign
relations committee hearing got underway on Capitol Hill.
In the letter, Trump, as he has in the past, boasted about the "massive and powerful" nuclear capabilities of the U.S.
"I pray to God they will never have to be used," Trump wrote.
Trump hinted on Tuesday while meeting with South Korea President Moon Jae-in at the White House that there was "a very substantial chance" the summit, which was to be held in Singapore, would not happen.
Robert
Kelly, a professor of international relations in South Korea, said the
North Koreans are "so mercurial" that it's hard to know how they will
respond.
"The North Koreans just don't take very well to being called out in public and that's what this was," he told CBC News Network's Andrew Nichols.
Kelly said more diplomacy is required all around and that the South Korean president in particular will need to do a lot of work to try to get a summit back on track.
According to Yonhap news agency, Moon said he's "very perplexed" that the U.S.-North Korea summit won't go ahead as planned.
Speaking at an emergency meeting of his top security officials, the South Korean president said "denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula and the establishment of permanent peace are historic tasks that can neither be abandoned nor delayed."
Earlier, Pompeo told the U.S. senators that the administration and South Korea were in "lockstep" with respect to the decision, but said he didn't want to specify which countries were notified ahead of time.
Mike
Pompeo is shown meeting with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un in
Pyongyang, North Korea, in a photo that the White House said was taken
over Easter weekend 2018. (U.S. Government via Reuters)
Relations
between the Koreas had thawed this year, beginning with North Korean
participation in the Winter Olympics in Pyeongchang in February, and
including a summit on April 27, in which Kim became the first North
Korean dictator to set foot in the South.
Trump suggested this week that recent meetings between Chinese President Xi Jinping and Kim may have played a part in stalling momentum for the summit.
"President Xi is a world-class poker player," Trump said.
China
publicly supported the planned summit, and Pompeo told the committee
that just Wednesday China's foreign ministry told the U.S. that
denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula was in its interests.
Pompeo said in testimony on Thursday that a U.S. team was "fully engaged" and ready for Singapore but received no responses from North Korea on outreach for summit planning.
Trump
agreed to a potential North Korea summit in March after meeting with
South Korea officials, but on Tuesday when President Moon Jae-In, right,
visited the White House, he sounded more skeptical it would take place
as scheduled. (Carlos Barria/Reuters)
"I
regret the statements that North Koreans have made over the past few
days and the fact that we have not been able to conduct the preparation
between our two teams that would be necessary to have a chance for
successful summit," he said.
Pompeo had recently helped broker the return of three Americans who had been detained in North Korea.
Trump had agreed to a summit, hastily, some analysts argued, in March after meeting with South Korean officials at the White House. He then confirmed the selection of Singapore as a site on May 10.
Democratic congressional leaders Nancy Pelosi and Charles Schumer were quick to pounce on the cancellation, with Pelosi telling reporters that Kim emerges as "the big winner" for having fooled Trump, and Schumer suggesting on social media that the summit was doomed to fail.
Late
last year, Trump and Kim were exchanging a series of insults, derisive
nicknames and nuclear threats after North Korea's progressive series of
ballistic missile tests conducted over a period of months.
In September 2017, Trump said in a speech at the United Nations that "Rocket Man" was on a "suicide mission," one month after making the so-called "fire and fury" threat. Kim, for his part, referred to the U.S. president as a "dotard" soon after Trump's UN address.
A
woman in Tokyo walks past a street monitor showing a news report about a
North Korean missile launch on Nov. 29, 2017, that reached the Sea of
Japan. (Toru Hanai/Reuters)
Hmmm Within a comment section about to close you insult my wordplay of the old bard's work then turn around and employ him for your own political ends?
Methinks Stupid Is As Stupid Does N'esy Pas?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/agent-orange-gagetown-burial-1.4675444
David Amos
@Peter Boone Methinks thou doth jest too much N'esy Pas?
Matt Helm
@David Amos
you are nuts, n'est ce pas?
NOPE BUT CBC CERTAINLY IS N'ESY PAS?
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Trump's 'bruised ego' prompted decision to cancel summit with North Korea, says prof
Jeffrey Lewis says Kim Jong-un 'holds all the cards' for any future meeting with the U.S.
An arms control expert says U.S. President Donald Trump pulled the plug on a historic North Korea summit because he's a "fool" who only wanted the meeting "for the basest of reasons."
In a formal letter addressed to North Korean Leader Kim Jong-un, Trump wrote, "Sadly, based on the tremendous anger and open hostility displayed in your most recent statement, I feel it is inappropriate, at this time, to have this long-planned meeting."
The letter came hours after North Korea claimed to have destroyed its nuclear test site.
Jeffrey Lewis, an arms control expert from the Middlebury Institute of International Studies, spoke to As It Happens host Carol Off about what he makes of the president's abrupt decision to cancel the face-to-face summit.
Who is to blame for this falling apart?
This entire crisis began because [National Security Advisor] John Bolton insisted on repeatedly publicly referring to the Trump administration's expectation that it would get what Bolton called a "Libya-style deal."
This was a preposterous comparison. Libya had really no nuclear weapons program to speak of. It had just some technologies it had imported, but really had no prospect of ever completing it.
But Bolton was really raising it not because of disarmament, but because of how [former Libyan leader Moammar] Gadhafi died.
I think Bolton wanted to sabotage the summit.
This
is from the letter again: "Your tremendous anger and open hostility
displayed in your most recent statements has meant the cancellation of
this." Can you tell us what those statements were?
Those were statements by two senior North Korean officials. The first statement by [arms negotiator] Kim Kye Gwan, it really focused on Bolton and Bolton's Libya comments.
And to some extent, the White House responded positively to that. Sarah Huckabee Sanders said that it wouldn't be a Libya-style deal, it would be a Trump-style deal.
But then the second North Korean official came out and she, I think, really offered the statement that was the straw that broke the camel's back.
What she said was that it was the U.S. who had asked for the meeting. And I think that a lot of this has been driven by the president's ego — that is the thing that he identifies at the top of the letter.
He says it's irrelevant but, it's the first thing he talks about — the idea of who invited whom. I think for Trump it was very important to depict this as the North Koreans coming to him because they had been pressured.
And I think for the North Koreans, it was the opposite narrative, that Trump was coming to them. So, it turns out Singapore is not big enough for both their egos.
But
President Trump was basking in this idea that he was going to not only
be the first one to have this kind of a summit with North Korea, but
that he would win the Nobel Peace Prize for it. So did he not see this
coming?
This is always a difficult thing in an interview because it comes off as partisan, but the president is a fool. He is a real fool.
Ask anyone who actually dealt with him in business. He is not a person who is aware of policies, ideologies. He is an ego-driven person.
And so, for him, the details are not something that interest him or that he would have any capacity to deal with. I know it seems hard to believe, but the president is a fool.
He wanted the meeting for the basest of reasons and that's why it got as far as it did.
Lewis says the summit was driven by Trump's ego more than a desire for disarmament. (Omer Messinger/Getty Images)
Do you think this letter is an attempt to try to and get it back on the track that he wants it to be on?
Yeah, Wendy Sherman, who had served in the Obama administration, I think aptly summarized it as, "a 13-year-old's stream of consciousness in a breakup letter over summer camp."
And it does have that strange sexual harassing quality of denigrating Kim, but at the same time asking him to come back.
I think what we are dealing with is not really a policy dispute but a man's bruised ego. He wants to have the summit, but he wants to have the summit in a way that makes him feel good about himself.
In a formal letter addressed to North Korean Leader Kim Jong-un, Trump wrote, "Sadly, based on the tremendous anger and open hostility displayed in your most recent statement, I feel it is inappropriate, at this time, to have this long-planned meeting."
The letter came hours after North Korea claimed to have destroyed its nuclear test site.
Jeffrey Lewis, an arms control expert from the Middlebury Institute of International Studies, spoke to As It Happens host Carol Off about what he makes of the president's abrupt decision to cancel the face-to-face summit.
Who is to blame for this falling apart?
This entire crisis began because [National Security Advisor] John Bolton insisted on repeatedly publicly referring to the Trump administration's expectation that it would get what Bolton called a "Libya-style deal."
This was a preposterous comparison. Libya had really no nuclear weapons program to speak of. It had just some technologies it had imported, but really had no prospect of ever completing it.
But Bolton was really raising it not because of disarmament, but because of how [former Libyan leader Moammar] Gadhafi died.
I think Bolton wanted to sabotage the summit.
Those were statements by two senior North Korean officials. The first statement by [arms negotiator] Kim Kye Gwan, it really focused on Bolton and Bolton's Libya comments.
And to some extent, the White House responded positively to that. Sarah Huckabee Sanders said that it wouldn't be a Libya-style deal, it would be a Trump-style deal.
But then the second North Korean official came out and she, I think, really offered the statement that was the straw that broke the camel's back.
What she said was that it was the U.S. who had asked for the meeting. And I think that a lot of this has been driven by the president's ego — that is the thing that he identifies at the top of the letter.
He says it's irrelevant but, it's the first thing he talks about — the idea of who invited whom. I think for Trump it was very important to depict this as the North Koreans coming to him because they had been pressured.
And I think for the North Koreans, it was the opposite narrative, that Trump was coming to them. So, it turns out Singapore is not big enough for both their egos.
This is always a difficult thing in an interview because it comes off as partisan, but the president is a fool. He is a real fool.
Ask anyone who actually dealt with him in business. He is not a person who is aware of policies, ideologies. He is an ego-driven person.
And so, for him, the details are not something that interest him or that he would have any capacity to deal with. I know it seems hard to believe, but the president is a fool.
He wanted the meeting for the basest of reasons and that's why it got as far as it did.
Yeah, Wendy Sherman, who had served in the Obama administration, I think aptly summarized it as, "a 13-year-old's stream of consciousness in a breakup letter over summer camp."
And it does have that strange sexual harassing quality of denigrating Kim, but at the same time asking him to come back.
I think what we are dealing with is not really a policy dispute but a man's bruised ego. He wants to have the summit, but he wants to have the summit in a way that makes him feel good about himself.
A colleague of ours, [Toronto Star reporter] Daniel
Dale, asked you for a comment on Twitter. You described it as a "goat
rodeo." What did you mean by that?
A rodeo is a show and it has some drama to it. But if you replace the horses with goats, all that drama is replaced with humour and what you're left with is a farce.
And that's what this was. This was a farce.
It had the appearance of a diplomatic process, but it had none of the substance.
A rodeo is a show and it has some drama to it. But if you replace the horses with goats, all that drama is replaced with humour and what you're left with is a farce.
And that's what this was. This was a farce.
It had the appearance of a diplomatic process, but it had none of the substance.
Written by Jeanne Armstrong and John McGill. Interview
produced by Jeanne Armstrong. Q&A has been edited for length and
clarity.
126 Comments
Ross Munro
Sorry, Trumpsters -There is
no magic Presidential Fairy dust hiding in the White House for Trump to
find and transform his ego and elevate his IQ into the right stuff. But
don't stop praying.
Frank McCormack
@Greg Gore (formerly Greggore)
Obama certainly was not the best president in the history of the USA but he was a damned site better than the current clown.
Obama certainly was not the best president in the history of the USA but he was a damned site better than the current clown.
David Amos
@Ross Munro "But don't stop praying."
Methinks that is a very good idea considering the fact that even CBC has revealed that Trump is now taking advice from Little Johnny "Never Been Good" Bolton N'esy Pas?
Methinks that is a very good idea considering the fact that even CBC has revealed that Trump is now taking advice from Little Johnny "Never Been Good" Bolton N'esy Pas?
Putny Swope
I'm shocked! I really thought those two great men would work together and effortlessly solve all the world's problems.
@Putny Swope
Fell off my chair laughing .. great post!
Fell off my chair laughing .. great post!
David Amos
@Frank McCormack Methinks the Lady doth jest too much N'esy Pas?
Dennis Page
@David Amos you sound rediculous
David Amos
@Dennis Page Methinks I am not as ridiculous as your spelling N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Dennis Page Do tell what sort of sound does my text make?
Dwight Williams
Diplomacy between two nut burgers is always an occasion for a clown show.
The nasty dictator versus the hapless lost boy. Pathetic.
The nasty dictator versus the hapless lost boy. Pathetic.
David Amos
@Dwight Williams Oh So True
Methinks that CBC and everybody else in the know knows how much I love a circus N'esy Pas?
Methinks that CBC and everybody else in the know knows how much I love a circus N'esy Pas?
Brian Hamm
I think old trump and his ego
are going to get this world we live on into a lot of trouble unless he
is taken out of power pretty quick.
Frank McCormack
@Brian Hamm
There is actually a pretty good chance that he will face impeachment. Problem is Pence is a religious zealot who might believe God will ensure America's victory over any ally of Satin. i.e North Korea, Iran etc. Jumping from the frying pan into the fire.
There is actually a pretty good chance that he will face impeachment. Problem is Pence is a religious zealot who might believe God will ensure America's victory over any ally of Satin. i.e North Korea, Iran etc. Jumping from the frying pan into the fire.
Barbara Mitchell
@Frank McCormack Impeached on what charge?
Walter Thomas Beckett
@Barbara Mitchell Don't you mean 'which charges'?
David Amos
@Walter Thomas Beckett
Methinks that even though Ms Mitchell makes fun of me no doubt much to
your chagrin I must be honest and admit that she is kinda sorta correct
thus far N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Walter Thomas Beckett
Methinks if folks started Googling certain words the worm could turn on
Mr Trump and his lawyers N'esy Pas?
Try Googling
Trump FATCA NAFTA Amos
Try Googling
Trump FATCA NAFTA Amos
Georges Kanoute
It doesn't take much to bruise President SnowfIake's ego. It takes even less to trigger his perpetually offended online minions.
David Amos
@Georges Kanoute YUP
Otto Vanderberg
The only way Trump would hold
a meeting with NK is to accept their surrender. Negotiations a la Trump
is my way or the highway. He behaves the same way with Iran, Russia,
the European Union. The entire world has to sacrifice to make America
great again.
@Barbara Mitchell "Really?
If that's how "the entire world" feels, maybe they should be paying for
their own defense instead of being parasites and counting on America to
save them."
Oh My My Methinks we know what side of the 49th you are from N'esy Pas?
Oh My My Methinks we know what side of the 49th you are from N'esy Pas?
Brian Bohnert
I was really hoping Trump would prove me wrong and actually get a deal done with KJU. Should have known better.
Barbara Mitchell
@Brian Bohnert Have you not
been listening to the news? NOKO is sucking up to Trump since he
cancelled the summit. Like he said, we'll just have to wait and see.
David Amos
@Barbara Mitchell ROTFLMAO
Steve Whitaker
Bottom line, Kim Jong-un is never going to give up his nukes.
Barbara Mitchell
@Barbara Mitchell That
should have read, "continue THE policies". CBC, being completely
perfect, assumes that we may not want to edit our posts, since we are
obviously as perfect as they are. /snork
David Amos
@Barbara Mitchell "CBC, being
completely perfect, assumes that we may not want to edit our posts,
since we are obviously as perfect as they are. /snork"
Methinks you have no idea how deep the rabbit hole gores N'esy Pas?
Methinks you have no idea how deep the rabbit hole gores N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Barbara Mitchell Methinks your post insulting me didn't last long N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Jack Goff May I double down on the DUHHH?
Lisa Smith
The US was warned even before the election that Trump was too thin-skinned for the job. And here you go.
David Amos
@Lisa Smith Methinks that the Yankees had no other option in order to rid themselves of the Democrats N'esy Pas?
al mark
The Nobel was never Trumps. The only ones who didn't realize it was Trump and his Trumpettes.
David Amos
@al mark YUP
govadeech pie
"The president is a fool. He is a real fool."
.
Great analysis from an arms control expert from the Middlebury Institute of International Studies.
Fairly highbrow stuff.
Quoting something he said as the headline, much less the lead headline is pure gold.
.
Great analysis from an arms control expert from the Middlebury Institute of International Studies.
Fairly highbrow stuff.
Quoting something he said as the headline, much less the lead headline is pure gold.
David Amos
@govadeech pie "Fairly highbrow stuff.'
Not really Methinks everybody who studies world affairs knows it ain't rocket science to understand the wicked game N'esy Pas?
Not really Methinks everybody who studies world affairs knows it ain't rocket science to understand the wicked game N'esy Pas?
Dennis Page
@David Amos "methinks" and
using a french phrase nice going.... lol you sound as intellectual as
the both the leaders and subject you deride.
David Amos
@Dennis Page Methinks you may
be correct but at least I am ethical and ran for public office five
times while arguing more lawyers than most folks can name in many
courts in Canada and the USA since 2001
Stupid Is As Stupid Does Thus I was a fool to expect Justice N'esy Pas?
Stupid Is As Stupid Does Thus I was a fool to expect Justice N'esy Pas?
Dennis Page
@David Amos how does this make me unethical? your swipe at my intellect suggests you can't argue successfully on anything.
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David Amos
@Dennis Page Wrong you attacked my intelligence and I did disagree and only responded with an ethical challenge remember?
Your words correct? "you sound as intellectual as the both the leaders and subject you deride."
Methinks I have been known to debate fairly well while running for public office N'esy Pas?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cFOKT6TlSE
Your words correct? "you sound as intellectual as the both the leaders and subject you deride."
Methinks I have been known to debate fairly well while running for public office N'esy Pas?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cFOKT6TlSE
David Amos
@Dennis Page Methinks that
nobody should be surprised that my justifiable reply to you was blocked
Perhaps you should Google my name N'esy Pas?
William Stafford
@David Amos
You "ran for public office five times while arguing more lawyers than most folks can name in many courts in Canada and the USA since 2001" and you think you are ethical ??
Wethinks you are confused
You "ran for public office five times while arguing more lawyers than most folks can name in many courts in Canada and the USA since 2001" and you think you are ethical ??
Wethinks you are confused
David Amos
@William Stafford Methinks you and your cohorts should Google the following words
Fundy Royal Debate
I am not the one who is confused N'esy Pas?
Fundy Royal Debate
I am not the one who is confused N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@William Stafford Methinks you "WE" dudes will enjoy reviewing the comment section under this article as well N'esy Pas?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276
Scott Wilson
'Let Go My Eggo'
David Amos
@Scott Wilson Hell No
Ken Hausauer
Does that mean President Bonespurs isn't going to receive the Nobel?
Barbara Mitchell
@Ken Hausauer Unfortunately, not all presidents are given the Nobel Peace Prize for simply being elected.
David Amos
@Barbara Mitchell Methinks many ghosts would agree that is NOT unfortunate N'esy Pas?
Gary Jessop
Otto MP
Gary Jessop
There's a parallel here
between Trump's performance with North Korea and with NAFTA. In the NK
case he demanded total de-nuclearization as a prerequisite to talks. In
the NAFTA case he wanted the dispute resolution mechanism scrapped and a
sunset clause introduced.
Both were very big asks before they even started talking and both are evidence of Trump's misunderstanding of his role.
Both were very big asks before they even started talking and both are evidence of Trump's misunderstanding of his role.
David Amos
@Gary Jessop Methinks you may enjoy Googling the following N'esy Pas?
Trump NAFTA FATCA Amos
Trump NAFTA FATCA Amos
Jim Graham
Poor Donald .. rather than admitting he's just not ready, he walks away from the table and blames everyone else. What a victim.
William Stafford
@Jim Graham Why would he abmit to something that is nothing more than a falsehood from those pretending to be victims
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David Amos
@William Stafford Methinks you are old enough to know that they are all liars N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@William Stafford Methinks you must be a favourite of CBC N'esy Pas?
Otto MP
It is in ill taste that people would make jokes about the cancellation of a peace meeting.
Barbara Mitchell
@Otto MP They aren't making
jokes about the cancellation of a peace meeting. They are making jokes
about Donald Trump and his supposed failure. Too bad for them NOKO is
already walking back their big, bad talk. But that's okay. They'll
still hate Trump no matter what he does.
Ken Evans
@Otto MP nah, people are
making jokes about how much of a failure Trump is, with his ego-driven
failures on the international stage.
David Amos
@Ken Evans True
David Amos
@Barbara Mitchell "But that's okay. They'll still hate Trump no matter what he does."
True
Methinks many folks worldwide would agree that Trump was a buffoon for many justifiable reasons long before he ever was elected to be the Yankee Prez N'esy Pas?
True
Methinks many folks worldwide would agree that Trump was a buffoon for many justifiable reasons long before he ever was elected to be the Yankee Prez N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Methinks that CBC knows that
for certain that I have never been impressed with big talking Yankees
from either the right or left for very Justifiable reasons since 2002
N'esy Pas?
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Barbara Mitchell
Barbara Mitchell
@David Amos You are special enough for the CBC to know who you are? How lovely for you.
David Amos
@Barbara Mitchell Yes they certainly do but deny it all the time Methinks you should ask yourself why N'esy Pas?.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276
Georges Kanoute
President SnowfIake prefers to rant from the safety of his twitter account.
David Amos
@Georges Kanoute Methinks you
must have overlooked many things President SnowfIake has said and done
in public in front of thousands of people or all that was televised as
well N'esy Pas?
https://www.middlebury.edu/
Dr. Jeffrey Lewis
499 Van Buren Street, Rm. 229
Tel (831) 647-6616
Email jlewis@miis.edu
http://davidraymondamos3.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/
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David Amos
@Joseph Cluster Methinks Murray Brewster should read paragraph 83 of
my lawsuit against the Queen sometime N'esy Pas?
http://davidraymondamos3.
83. The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war
in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to
allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over
five years after he began his bragging:
January 13, 2015
This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate
December 8, 2014
Why Canada Stood Tall!
Friday, October 3, 2014
Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And
Stupid Justin Trudeau
Canada’s and Canadians free ride is over. Canada can no longer hide
behind Amerka’s and NATO’s skirts.
When I was still in Canadian Forces then Prime Minister Jean Chretien
actually committed the Canadian Army to deploy in the second campaign
in Iraq, the Coalition of the Willing. This was against or contrary to
the wisdom or advice of those of us Canadian officers that were
involved in the initial planning phases of that operation. There were
significant concern in our planning cell, and NDHQ about of the dearth
of concern for operational guidance, direction, and forces for
operations after the initial occupation of Iraq. At the “last minute”
Prime Minister Chretien and the Liberal government changed its mind.
The Canadian government told our amerkan cousins that we would not
deploy combat troops for the Iraq campaign, but would deploy a
Canadian Battle Group to Afghanistan, enabling our amerkan cousins to
redeploy troops from there to Iraq. The PMO’s thinking that it was
less costly to deploy Canadian Forces to Afghanistan than Iraq. But
alas no one seems to remind the Liberals of Prime Minister Chretien’s
then grossly incorrect assumption. Notwithstanding Jean Chretien’s
incompetence and stupidity, the Canadian Army was heroic,
professional, punched well above it’s weight, and the PPCLI Battle
Group, is credited with “saving Afghanistan” during the Panjway
campaign of 2006.
What Justin Trudeau and the Liberals don’t tell you now, is that then
Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien committed, and deployed the
Canadian army to Canada’s longest “war” without the advice, consent,
support, or vote of the Canadian Parliament.
What David Amos and the rest of the ignorant, uneducated, and babbling
chattering classes are too addled to understand is the deployment of
less than 75 special operations troops, and what is known by planners
as a “six pac cell” of fighter aircraft is NOT the same as a
deployment of a Battle Group, nor a “war” make.
The Canadian Government or The Crown unlike our amerkan cousins have
the “constitutional authority” to commit the Canadian nation to war.
That has been recently clearly articulated to the Canadian public by
constitutional scholar Phillippe Legasse. What Parliament can do is
remove “confidence” in The Crown’s Government in a “vote of
non-confidence.” That could not happen to the Chretien Government
regarding deployment to Afghanistan, and it won’t happen in this
instance with the conservative majority in The Commons regarding a
limited Canadian deployment to the Middle East.
President George Bush was quite correct after 911 and the terror
attacks in New York; that the Taliban “occupied” and “failed state”
Afghanistan was the source of logistical support, command and control,
and training for the Al Quaeda war of terror against the world. The
initial defeat, and removal from control of Afghanistan was vital and
essential for the security and tranquility of the developed world. An
ISIS “caliphate,” in the Middle East, no matter how small, is a clear
and present danger to the entire world. This “occupied state,”
or“failed state” will prosecute an unending Islamic inspired war of
terror against not only the “western world,” but Arab states
“moderate” or not, as well. The security, safety, and tranquility of
Canada and Canadians are just at risk now with the emergence of an
ISIS“caliphate” no matter how large or small, as it was with the
Taliban and Al Quaeda “marriage” in Afghanistan.
One of the everlasting “legacies” of the “Trudeau the Elder’s dynasty
was Canada and successive Liberal governments cowering behind the
amerkan’s nuclear and conventional military shield, at the same time
denigrating, insulting them, opposing them, and at the same time
self-aggrandizing ourselves as “peace keepers,” and progenitors of
“world peace.” Canada failed. The United States of Amerka, NATO, the
G7 and or G20 will no longer permit that sort of sanctimonious
behavior from Canada or its government any longer. And Prime Minister
Stephen Harper, Foreign Minister John Baird , and Cabinet are fully
cognizant of that reality. Even if some editorial boards, and pundits
are not.
Justin, Trudeau “the younger” is reprising the time “honoured” liberal
mantra, and tradition of expecting the amerkans or the rest of the
world to do “the heavy lifting.” Justin Trudeau and his “butt buddy”
David Amos are telling Canadians that we can guarantee our security
and safety by expecting other nations to fight for us. That Canada can
and should attempt to guarantee Canadians safety by providing
“humanitarian aid” somewhere, and call a sitting US president a “war
criminal.” This morning Australia announced they too, were sending
tactical aircraft to eliminate the menace of an ISIS “caliphate.”
In one sense Prime Minister Harper is every bit the scoundrel Trudeau
“the elder” and Jean ‘the crook” Chretien was. Just As Trudeau, and
successive Liberal governments delighted in diminishing,
marginalizing, under funding Canadian Forces, and sending Canadian
military men and women to die with inadequate kit and modern
equipment; so too is Prime Minister Stephen Harper. Canada’s F-18s are
antiquated, poorly equipped, and ought to have been replaced five
years ago. But alas, there won’t be single RCAF fighter jock that
won’t go, or won’t want to go, to make Canada safe or safer.
My Grandfather served this country. My father served this country. My
Uncle served this country. And I have served this country. Justin
Trudeau has not served Canada in any way. Thomas Mulcair has not
served this country in any way. Liberals and so called social
democrats haven’t served this country in any way. David Amos, and
other drooling fools have not served this great nation in any way. Yet
these fools are more than prepared to ensure their, our safety to
other nations, and then criticize them for doing so.
Canada must again, now, “do our bit” to guarantee our own security,
and tranquility, but also that of the world. Canada has never before
shirked its responsibility to its citizens and that of the world.
Prime Minister Harper will not permit this country to do so now
From: dnd_mdn@forces.gc.ca
Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 14:17:17 -0400
Subject: RE: Re Greg Weston, The CBC , Wikileaks, USSOCOM, Canada and
the War in Iraq (I just called SOCOM and let them know I was still
alive
To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
This is to confirm that the Minister of National Defence has received
your email and it will be reviewed in due course. Please do not reply
to this message: it is an automatic acknowledgement.
>>>>
---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 13:55:30 -0300
Subject: Re Greg Weston, The CBC , Wikileaks, USSOCOM, Canada and the
War in Iraq (I just called SOCOM and let them know I was still alive
To: DECPR@forces.gc.ca, Public.Affairs@socom.mil,
Raymonde.Cleroux@mpcc-cppm.gc.
william.elliott@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
dnd_mdn@forces.gc.ca, media@drdc-rddc.gc.ca, information@forces.gc.ca,
milner@unb.ca, charters@unb.ca, lwindsor@unb.ca,
sarah.weir@mpcc-cppm.gc.ca, birgir <birgir@althingi.is>, smari
<smari@immi.is>, greg.weston@cbc.ca, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>,
susan@blueskystrategygroup.com
eugene@blueskystrategygroup.
Cc: "Edith. Cody-Rice" <Edith.Cody-Rice@cbc.ca>, "terry.seguin"
<terry.seguin@cbc.ca>, acampbell <acampbell@ctv.ca>, whistleblower
<whistleblower@ctv.ca>
I talked to Don Newman earlier this week before the beancounters David
Dodge and Don Drummond now of Queen's gave their spin about Canada's
Health Care system yesterday and Sheila Fraser yapped on and on on
CAPAC during her last days in office as if she were oh so ethical.. To
be fair to him I just called Greg Weston (613-288-6938) I suggested
that he should at least Google SOUCOM and David Amos It would be wise
if he check ALL of CBC's sources before he publishes something else
about the DND EH Don Newman? Lets just say that the fact that your
old CBC buddy, Tony Burman is now in charge of Al Jazeera English
never impressed me. The fact that he set up a Canadian office is
interesting though
http://www.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/
Anyone can call me back and stress test my integrity after they read
this simple pdf file. BTW what you Blue Sky dudes pubished about
Potash Corp and BHP is truly funny. Perhaps Stevey Boy Harper or Brad
Wall will fill ya in if you are to shy to call mean old me.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/
The Governor General, the PMO and the PCO offices know that I am not a
shy political animal
Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos
902 800 0369
Enjoy Mr Weston
http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/
"But Lang, defence minister McCallum's chief of staff, says military
brass were not entirely forthcoming on the issue. For instance, he
says, even McCallum initially didn't know those soldiers were helping
to plan the invasion of Iraq up to the highest levels of command,
including a Canadian general.
That general is Walt Natynczyk, now Canada's chief of defence staff,
who eight months after the invasion became deputy commander of 35,000
U.S. soldiers and other allied forces in Iraq. Lang says Natynczyk was
also part of the team of mainly senior U.S. military brass that helped
prepare for the invasion from a mobile command in Kuwait."
http://baconfat53.blogspot.
"I remember years ago when the debate was on in Canada, about there
being weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Our American 'friends"
demanded that Canada join into "the Coalition of the Willing. American
"veterans" and sportscasters loudly denounced Canada for NOT buying
into the US policy.
At the time I was serving as a planner at NDHQ and with 24 other of my
colleagues we went to Tampa SOUCOM HQ to be involved in the planning
in the planning stages of the op....and to report to NDHQ, that would
report to the PMO upon the merits of the proposed operation. There was
never at anytime an existing target list of verified sites where there
were deployed WMD.
Coalition assets were more than sufficient for the initial strike and
invasion phase but even at that point in the planning, we were
concerned about the number of "boots on the ground" for the occupation
(and end game) stage of an operation in Iraq. We were also concerned
about the American plans for occupation plans of Iraq because they at
that stage included no contingency for a handing over of civil
authority to a vetted Iraqi government and bureaucracy.
There was no detailed plan for Iraq being "liberated" and returned to
its people...nor a thought to an eventual exit plan. This was contrary
to the lessons of Vietnam but also to current military thought, that
folks like Colin Powell and "Stuffy" Leighton and others elucidated
upon. "What's the mission" how long is the mission, what conditions
are to met before US troop can redeploy? Prime Minister Jean Chretien
and the PMO were even at the very preliminary planning stages wary of
Canadian involvement in an Iraq operation....History would prove them
correct. The political pressure being applied on the PMO from the
George W Bush administration was onerous
American military assets were extremely overstretched, and Canadian
military assets even more so It was proposed by the PMO that Canadian
naval platforms would deploy to assist in naval quarantine operations
in the Gulf and that Canadian army assets would deploy in Afghanistan
thus permitting US army assets to redeploy for an Iraqi
operation....The PMO thought that "compromise would save Canadian
lives and liberal political capital.. and the priority of which
....not necessarily in that order. "
You can bet that I called these sneaky Yankees again today EH John
Adams? of the CSE within the DND?
http://www.socom.mil/
http://davidraymondamos3.
Wednesday, 16 May 2018
Yo Matt DeCourcey while you are explaining things to John Brassard why
not explain Federal Court File No T-1557-15 as well?
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 09:32:09 -0400
>> Subject: Attn Integrity Commissioner Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
>> To: coi@gnb.ca
>> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>
>> Good Day Sir
>>
>> After I heard you speak on CBC I called your office again and managed
>> to speak to one of your staff for the first time
>>
>> Please find attached the documents I promised to send to the lady who
>> answered the phone this morning. Please notice that not after the Sgt
>> at Arms took the documents destined to your office his pal Tanker
>> Malley barred me in writing with an "English" only document.
>>
>> These are the hearings and the dockets in Federal Court that I
>> suggested that you study closely.
>>
>> This is the docket in Federal Court
>>
>> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.
>>
>> These are digital recordings of the last three hearings
>>
>> Dec 14th https://archive.org/details/
>>
>> January 11th, 2016 https://archive.org/details/
>>
>> April 3rd, 2017
>>
>> https://archive.org/details/
>>
>>
>> This is the docket in the Federal Court of Appeal
>>
>> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.
>>
>>
>> The only hearing thus far
>>
>> May 24th, 2017
>>
>> https://archive.org/details/
>>
>>
>> This Judge understnds the meaning of the word Integrity
>>
>> Date: 20151223
>>
>> Docket: T-1557-15
>>
>> Fredericton, New Brunswick, December 23, 2015
>>
>> PRESENT: The Honourable Mr. Justice Bell
>>
>> BETWEEN:
>>
>> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
>>
>> Plaintiff
>>
>> and
>>
>> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
>>
>> Defendant
>>
>> ORDER
>>
>> (Delivered orally from the Bench in Fredericton, New Brunswick, on
>> December 14, 2015)
>>
>> The Plaintiff seeks an appeal de novo, by way of motion pursuant to
>> the Federal Courts Rules (SOR/98-106), from an Order made on November
>> 12, 2015, in which Prothonotary Morneau struck the Statement of Claim
>> in its entirety.
>>
>> At the outset of the hearing, the Plaintiff brought to my attention a
>> letter dated September 10, 2004, which he sent to me, in my then
>> capacity as Past President of the New Brunswick Branch of the Canadian
>> Bar Association, and the then President of the Branch, Kathleen Quigg,
>> (now a Justice of the New Brunswick Court of Appeal). In that letter
>> he stated:
>>
>> As for your past President, Mr. Bell, may I suggest that you check the
>> work of Frank McKenna before I sue your entire law firm including you.
>> You are your brother’s keeper.
>>
>> Frank McKenna is the former Premier of New Brunswick and a former
>> colleague of mine at the law firm of McInnes Cooper. In addition to
>> expressing an intention to sue me, the Plaintiff refers to a number of
>> people in his Motion Record who he appears to contend may be witnesses
>> or potential parties to be added. Those individuals who are known to
>> me personally, include, but are not limited to the former Prime
>> Minister of Canada, The Right Honourable Stephen Harper; former
>> Attorney General of Canada and now a Justice of the Manitoba Court of
>> Queen’s Bench, Vic Toews; former member of Parliament Rob Moore;
>> former Director of Policing Services, the late Grant Garneau; former
>> Chief of the Fredericton Police Force, Barry McKnight; former Staff
>> Sergeant Danny Copp; my former colleagues on the New Brunswick Court
>> of Appeal, Justices Bradley V. Green and Kathleen Quigg, and, retired
>> Assistant Commissioner Wayne Lang of the Royal Canadian Mounted
>> Police.
>>
>> In the circumstances, given the threat in 2004 to sue me in my
>> personal capacity and my past and present relationship with many
>> potential witnesses and/or potential parties to the litigation, I am
>> of the view there would be a reasonable apprehension of bias should I
>> hear this motion. See Justice de Grandpré’s dissenting judgment in
>> Committee for Justice and Liberty et al v National Energy Board et al,
>> [1978] 1 SCR 369 at p 394 for the applicable test regarding
>> allegations of bias. In the circumstances, although neither party has
>> requested I recuse myself, I consider it appropriate that I do so.
>>
>>
>> AS A RESULT OF MY RECUSAL, THIS COURT ORDERS that the Administrator of
>> the Court schedule another date for the hearing of the motion. There
>> is no order as to costs.
>>
>> “B. Richard Bell”
>> Judge
>>
>>
>> Below after the CBC article about your concerns (I made one comment
>> already) you will find the text of just two of many emails I had sent
>> to your office over the years since I first visited it in 2006.
>>
>> I noticed that on July 30, 2009, he was appointed to the the Court
>> Martial Appeal Court of Canada Perhaps you should scroll to the
>> bottom of this email ASAP and read the entire Paragraph 83 of my
>> lawsuit now before the Federal Court of Canada?
>>
>> "FYI This is the text of the lawsuit that should interest Trudeau the
>> most
>>
>>
>> ---------- Original message ----------
>> From: justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca
>> Date: Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:18 PM
>> Subject: Réponse automatique : RE My complaint against the CROWN in
>> Federal Court Attn David Hansen and Peter MacKay If you planning to
>> submit a motion for a publication ban on my complaint trust that you
>> dudes are way past too late
>> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>
>> Veuillez noter que j'ai changé de courriel. Vous pouvez me rejoindre à
>> lalanthier@hotmail.com
>>
>> Pour rejoindre le bureau de M. Trudeau veuillez envoyer un courriel à
>> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
>>
>> Please note that I changed email address, you can reach me at
>> lalanthier@hotmail.com
>>
>> To reach the office of Mr. Trudeau please send an email to
>> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Merci ,
>>
>>
>> http://davidraymondamos3.
>>
>>
>> 83. The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war
>> in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to
>> allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over
>> five years after he began his bragging:
>>
>> January 13, 2015
>> This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate
>>
>> December 8, 2014
>> Why Canada Stood Tall!
>>
>> Friday, October 3, 2014
>> Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And
>> Stupid Justin Trudeau
>>
>> Canada’s and Canadians free ride is over. Canada can no longer hide
>> behind Amerka’s and NATO’s skirts.
>>
>> When I was still in Canadian Forces then Prime Minister Jean Chretien
>> actually committed the Canadian Army to deploy in the second campaign
>> in Iraq, the Coalition of the Willing. This was against or contrary to
>> the wisdom or advice of those of us Canadian officers that were
>> involved in the initial planning phases of that operation. There were
>> significant concern in our planning cell, and NDHQ about of the dearth
>> of concern for operational guidance, direction, and forces for
>> operations after the initial occupation of Iraq. At the “last minute”
>> Prime Minister Chretien and the Liberal government changed its mind.
>> The Canadian government told our amerkan cousins that we would not
>> deploy combat troops for the Iraq campaign, but would deploy a
>> Canadian Battle Group to Afghanistan, enabling our amerkan cousins to
>> redeploy troops from there to Iraq. The PMO’s thinking that it was
>> less costly to deploy Canadian Forces to Afghanistan than Iraq. But
>> alas no one seems to remind the Liberals of Prime Minister Chretien’s
>> then grossly incorrect assumption. Notwithstanding Jean Chretien’s
>> incompetence and stupidity, the Canadian Army was heroic,
>> professional, punched well above it’s weight, and the PPCLI Battle
>> Group, is credited with “saving Afghanistan” during the Panjway
>> campaign of 2006.
>>
>> What Justin Trudeau and the Liberals don’t tell you now, is that then
>> Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien committed, and deployed the
>> Canadian army to Canada’s longest “war” without the advice, consent,
>> support, or vote of the Canadian Parliament.
>>
>> What David Amos and the rest of the ignorant, uneducated, and babbling
>> chattering classes are too addled to understand is the deployment of
>> less than 75 special operations troops, and what is known by planners
>> as a “six pac cell” of fighter aircraft is NOT the same as a
>> deployment of a Battle Group, nor a “war” make.
>>
>> The Canadian Government or The Crown unlike our amerkan cousins have
>> the “constitutional authority” to commit the Canadian nation to war.
>> That has been recently clearly articulated to the Canadian public by
>> constitutional scholar Phillippe Legasse. What Parliament can do is
>> remove “confidence” in The Crown’s Government in a “vote of
>> non-confidence.” That could not happen to the Chretien Government
>> regarding deployment to Afghanistan, and it won’t happen in this
>> instance with the conservative majority in The Commons regarding a
>> limited Canadian deployment to the Middle East.
>>
>> President George Bush was quite correct after 911 and the terror
>> attacks in New York; that the Taliban “occupied” and “failed state”
>> Afghanistan was the source of logistical support, command and control,
>> and training for the Al Quaeda war of terror against the world. The
>> initial defeat, and removal from control of Afghanistan was vital and
>>
>> P.S. Whereas this CBC article is about your opinion of the actions of
>> the latest Minister Of Health trust that Mr Boudreau and the CBC have
>> had my files for many years and the last thing they are is ethical.
>> Ask his friends Mr Murphy and the RCMP if you don't believe me.
>>
>> Subject:
>> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:02:35 -0400
>> From: "Murphy, Michael B. \(DH/MS\)" MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca
>> To: motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>>
>> January 30, 2007
>>
>> WITHOUT PREJUDICE
>>
>> Mr. David Amos
>>
>> Dear Mr. Amos:
>>
>> This will acknowledge receipt of a copy of your e-mail of December 29,
>> 2006 to Corporal Warren McBeath of the RCMP.
>>
>> Because of the nature of the allegations made in your message, I have
>> taken the measure of forwarding a copy to Assistant Commissioner Steve
>> Graham of the RCMP “J” Division in Fredericton.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Honourable Michael B. Murphy
>> Minister of Health
>>
>> CM/cb
>>
>>
>> Warren McBeath warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca wrote:
>>
>> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:34:53 -0500
>> From: "Warren McBeath" warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>> To: kilgoursite@ca.inter.net, MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca,
>> nada.sarkis@gnb.ca, wally.stiles@gnb.ca, dwatch@web.net,
>> motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>> CC: ottawa@chuckstrahl.com, riding@chuckstrahl.com,John.
>> Oda.B@parl.gc.ca,"Bev BUSSON" bev.busson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
>> "Paul Dube" PAUL.DUBE@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>> Subject: Re: Remember me Kilgour? Landslide Annie McLellan has
>> forgotten me but the crooks within the RCMP have not
>>
>> Dear Mr. Amos,
>>
>> Thank you for your follow up e-mail to me today. I was on days off
>> over the holidays and returned to work this evening. Rest assured I
>> was not ignoring or procrastinating to respond to your concerns.
>>
>> As your attachment sent today refers from Premier Graham, our position
>> is clear on your dead calf issue: Our forensic labs do not process
>> testing on animals in cases such as yours, they are referred to the
>> Atlantic Veterinary College in Charlottetown who can provide these
>> services. If you do not choose to utilize their expertise in this
>> instance, then that is your decision and nothing more can be done.
>>
>> As for your other concerns regarding the US Government, false
>> imprisonment and Federal Court Dates in the US, etc... it is clear
>> that Federal authorities are aware of your concerns both in Canada
>> the US. These issues do not fall into the purvue of Detachment
>> and policing in Petitcodiac, NB.
>>
>> It was indeed an interesting and informative conversation we had on
>> December 23rd, and I wish you well in all of your future endeavors.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Warren McBeath, Cpl.
>> GRC Caledonia RCMP
>> Traffic Services NCO
>> Ph: (506) 387-2222
>> Fax: (506) 387-4622
>> E-mail warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>>
>>
>>
>> Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
>> Office of the Integrity Commissioner
>> Edgecombe House, 736 King Street
>> Fredericton, N.B. CANADA E3B 5H1
>> tel.: 506-457-7890
>> fax: 506-444-5224
>> e-mail:coi@gnb.ca
>>
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-north-korea-summit-kim-1.4675946
North Korea says it's willing to talk after Trump cancels summit
'Nobody should be anxious, but we have to get it right,' U.S. president says
North Korea is responding to U.S. President Donald Trump's decision to cancel a planned summit between the leaders of the two countries, saying it is ready to talk.
Kim Kye-gwan, North Korea's foreign minister, said in a statement published by state-run media that the U.S. decision was not in line with the "world's desire."
"We tell the United States once more that we are open to resolving problems at any time in any way," he said.
Trump said that the U.S. decided to walk away from the June 12 meeting with Kim Jong-un because of "open hostility" in Kim's most recent statement.
The public letter addressed to the North Korean regime was released Thursday by the White House.
"Sadly based on the tremendous anger and open hostility displayed in your most recent statement, I feel it is inappropriate, at this time, to have this long-planned meeting," said Trump.
Trump said in the letter, and in a subsequent address at the White House, that he still looked forward to meeting Kim one day but expressed regret that a "wonderful dialogue" had taken a turn.
"The world, and North Korea in particular, has lost a great opportunity for lasting peace and great prosperity and wealth," the president said.
'We have to get it right'
Trump said he had informed the Pentagon and allies South Korea and Japan of his decision.
The president said he hoped North Korea would re-engage in constructive dialogue but that the U.S. military was "more than ready" to respond to any reckless actions.
"Nobody should be anxious, but we have to get it right," he said.
Trump calls off North Korea summit
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The response from the Americans comes as North Korea claimed on Thursday to have demolished its sole nuclear test site before a gathering of select foreign journalists, though not international inspectors.
In recent days, however, North Korea had dialled up its rhetoric, focusing on comments made by U.S. Vice-President Mike Pence and National Security Adviser John Bolton in interviews.
Trump's Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, in his previous capacity as CIA director, has met with Kim.
But doubts began to emerge that the summit between Trump and Kim would come off as early as last week, when North Korea called off planned talks with South Korea, which has been mediating between the two countries.
In the letter, Trump, as he has in the past, boasted about the "massive and powerful" nuclear capabilities of the U.S.
"I pray to God they will never have to be used," Trump wrote.
Trump hinted on Tuesday while meeting with South Korea President Moon Jae-in at the White House that there was "a very substantial chance" the summit, which was to be held in Singapore, would not happen.
"The North Koreans just don't take very well to being called out in public and that's what this was," he told CBC News Network's Andrew Nichols.
Kelly said more diplomacy is required all around and that the South Korean president in particular will need to do a lot of work to try to get a summit back on track.
South Korea questions 'Trump's intention'
According to Yonhap news agency, Moon said he's "very perplexed" that the U.S.-North Korea summit won't go ahead as planned.
Speaking at an emergency meeting of his top security officials, the South Korean president said "denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula and the establishment of permanent peace are historic tasks that can neither be abandoned nor delayed."
Earlier, Pompeo told the U.S. senators that the administration and South Korea were in "lockstep" with respect to the decision, but said he didn't want to specify which countries were notified ahead of time.
Trump suggested this week that recent meetings between Chinese President Xi Jinping and Kim may have played a part in stalling momentum for the summit.
"President Xi is a world-class poker player," Trump said.
Pompeo said in testimony on Thursday that a U.S. team was "fully engaged" and ready for Singapore but received no responses from North Korea on outreach for summit planning.
Pompeo had recently helped broker the return of three Americans who had been detained in North Korea.
Bellicose threats last year
Trump had agreed to a summit, hastily, some analysts argued, in March after meeting with South Korean officials at the White House. He then confirmed the selection of Singapore as a site on May 10.
Democratic congressional leaders Nancy Pelosi and Charles Schumer were quick to pounce on the cancellation, with Pelosi telling reporters that Kim emerges as "the big winner" for having fooled Trump, and Schumer suggesting on social media that the summit was doomed to fail.
In September 2017, Trump said in a speech at the United Nations that "Rocket Man" was on a "suicide mission," one month after making the so-called "fire and fury" threat. Kim, for his part, referred to the U.S. president as a "dotard" soon after Trump's UN address.
With files from The Associated Press
Ex-soldier says he watched barrels of Agent Orange being buried at Gagetown base
Did the Canadian military actually track down all of its stocks of the dangerous defoliant?
It is a 33-year-old mystery that has gnawed at retired sergeant Al White's conscience.
The now-former military police officer told CBC News that, before sunrise on a clear morning in the late spring of 1985, he was ordered to escort a Department of National Defence flatbed truck along an empty road at CFB Gagetown in New Brunswick. The journey took just minutes and ended in shadows just off the road, where an excavator had dug a wide, fresh pit in the spongy soil.
On the flatbed were over 40 full or semi-full barrels in various conditions. Some were solid, others were dented, rusted or in various states of decay. Almost all of them were wrapped with an orange stripe.
"At the time, I didn't think much of it," White told CBC News. "I just did the task and it wasn't until some time later that it really, really hit home to me."
Very few words were exchanged between White, the truck driver and the operator of the excavator. The barrels were dumped into the pit and covered over.
What Al White said he witnessed that morning three decades back was the burial of leftover Agent Orange, the notorious chemical defoliant linked to various types of cancer that was used in secret spraying experiments by the U.S. at the Gagetown military base in New Brunswick — something which would blow up into a major public policy issue 20 years later.
White said he was told at the time what the barrels contained. Experts and activists who have followed the case — and who fought the federal government for compensation for military personnel and civilians affected by defoliant spraying at Gagetown — said White's statement is the first eyewitness account they've heard of the base disposing of stocks of Agent Orange.
"This is quite an interesting development from my perspective," said Wayne Dwernychuk, a expert who spent over 15 years studying Agent Orange contamination and its effects on combatants during the war in Vietnam.
Much of the public controversy in New Brunswick over a dozen years ago related to the secret spraying program. Agent Orange was sprayed at CFB Gagetown in 1966 and 1967 by the U.S. military, with permission from Canada.
It's now known that exposure can lead to skin disorders, liver problems and certain types of cancers.
The Canadian government set aside almost $100 million in 2007 for Canadians harmed by defoliants at the base. In 2011, Ottawa also reversed a decision to reject compensation for dozens of soldiers and their families exposed to the defoliant who later became ill.
What makes White's account remarkable, Dwernychuk said, is that it's the first hint of an answer to a nagging question about the Gagetown spraying program: do we know what happened to all of the leftover defoliant?
Al White in uniform in the mid-1980s. "I just felt ... enough about hiding stuff. Bring it out into the public." (Submitted photo)
There
are references to disposal in some of the public reports on the
program — in both an independent engineering report and the public
health study conducted by Dr. Dennis Furlong, which cites one instance
of empty barrels being dug up near what is known as the Shirley Road
dump.
White said that is roughly the area where he witnessed the burial.
There are, however, significant discrepancies between the Department of National Defence's timeline and White's account of the burial.
At least 10 sites on the base were the subject of study — and the department said it found barrels at only one.
White said he is willing to show defence officials where he saw the barrels buried; CBC News asked to accompany him. National Defence refused to allow access to the base and a spokesman said the issue has been studied exhaustively.
"DND/CAF
has done extensive research into the use and testing of herbicides at
CFB Gagetown and has left no stone unturned," said Daniel LeBouthillier.
LeBouthillier pointed to independent research conducted by Jacques Whitford Engineering and the community outreach the department did between 2005 and 2007.
"The Department of National Defence has been open and transparent about its work regarding this file and the science indicates that the base is safe today."
LeBouthillier did, however, invite White to contact the department directly.
Dwernychuk said the federal government needs to investigate further.
"It behooves whoever is in charge of the area, the ministry of defence, to find out what is actually in that particular region, particularly if there is a witness to the burying," he said.
The department claims it conducted remediation at the site where it found barrels. Dwernychuk said it should still look at taking deep core samples at that site, given that a brook runs through the area.
Both he and Carol Brown Parker, of the Agent Orange Association of Canada — which still lobbies for more disclosure on the Agent Orange program and its aftermath — said they are amazed that White kept silent all these years.
The rumour that barrels of the defoliant had been secretly buried on the base has been rife in nearby communities for decades.
"I absolutely believe Al," said Brown-Parker, who recalled hearing as a child her teachers talking about the late night transport of barrels through the area. "It was well known they did that, but everybody kept quiet."
White said he recently lost three friends — all former soldiers — to cancer. They all suffered lingering, painful deaths, he said.
"I just felt ... enough about hiding stuff. Bring it out into the public that this did occur," White said. "Perhaps I should have brought it forth years ago after I was released from the military and I didn't, and I'm probably wrong for not doing that."
He said he would like clear, definitive answers from National Defence about the site "so that people can be at rest."
Dwernychuk said it's a bitter disappointment to hear now about what White said he saw decades past, given that he didn't come forward when the battle for recognition and federal compensation for those exposed to Agent Orange at Gagetown was being fought a dozen years ago.
"I would speculate that the government would have taken it more seriously if he had come forward earlier," he said.
"There is always going to be the question of, 'Why did you wait so long?'"
· CBC News · Posted: May 24, 2018 4:00 AM ET
The now-former military police officer told CBC News that, before sunrise on a clear morning in the late spring of 1985, he was ordered to escort a Department of National Defence flatbed truck along an empty road at CFB Gagetown in New Brunswick. The journey took just minutes and ended in shadows just off the road, where an excavator had dug a wide, fresh pit in the spongy soil.
On the flatbed were over 40 full or semi-full barrels in various conditions. Some were solid, others were dented, rusted or in various states of decay. Almost all of them were wrapped with an orange stripe.
"At the time, I didn't think much of it," White told CBC News. "I just did the task and it wasn't until some time later that it really, really hit home to me."
Very few words were exchanged between White, the truck driver and the operator of the excavator. The barrels were dumped into the pit and covered over.
What Al White said he witnessed that morning three decades back was the burial of leftover Agent Orange, the notorious chemical defoliant linked to various types of cancer that was used in secret spraying experiments by the U.S. at the Gagetown military base in New Brunswick — something which would blow up into a major public policy issue 20 years later.
An eyewitness account
White said he was told at the time what the barrels contained. Experts and activists who have followed the case — and who fought the federal government for compensation for military personnel and civilians affected by defoliant spraying at Gagetown — said White's statement is the first eyewitness account they've heard of the base disposing of stocks of Agent Orange.
"This is quite an interesting development from my perspective," said Wayne Dwernychuk, a expert who spent over 15 years studying Agent Orange contamination and its effects on combatants during the war in Vietnam.
Much of the public controversy in New Brunswick over a dozen years ago related to the secret spraying program. Agent Orange was sprayed at CFB Gagetown in 1966 and 1967 by the U.S. military, with permission from Canada.
It's now known that exposure can lead to skin disorders, liver problems and certain types of cancers.
The Canadian government set aside almost $100 million in 2007 for Canadians harmed by defoliants at the base. In 2011, Ottawa also reversed a decision to reject compensation for dozens of soldiers and their families exposed to the defoliant who later became ill.
What makes White's account remarkable, Dwernychuk said, is that it's the first hint of an answer to a nagging question about the Gagetown spraying program: do we know what happened to all of the leftover defoliant?
White said that is roughly the area where he witnessed the burial.
There are, however, significant discrepancies between the Department of National Defence's timeline and White's account of the burial.
At least 10 sites on the base were the subject of study — and the department said it found barrels at only one.
White said he is willing to show defence officials where he saw the barrels buried; CBC News asked to accompany him. National Defence refused to allow access to the base and a spokesman said the issue has been studied exhaustively.
LeBouthillier pointed to independent research conducted by Jacques Whitford Engineering and the community outreach the department did between 2005 and 2007.
"The Department of National Defence has been open and transparent about its work regarding this file and the science indicates that the base is safe today."
LeBouthillier did, however, invite White to contact the department directly.
Dwernychuk said the federal government needs to investigate further.
"It behooves whoever is in charge of the area, the ministry of defence, to find out what is actually in that particular region, particularly if there is a witness to the burying," he said.
The department claims it conducted remediation at the site where it found barrels. Dwernychuk said it should still look at taking deep core samples at that site, given that a brook runs through the area.
Rumours of buried toxins
Both he and Carol Brown Parker, of the Agent Orange Association of Canada — which still lobbies for more disclosure on the Agent Orange program and its aftermath — said they are amazed that White kept silent all these years.
The rumour that barrels of the defoliant had been secretly buried on the base has been rife in nearby communities for decades.
"I absolutely believe Al," said Brown-Parker, who recalled hearing as a child her teachers talking about the late night transport of barrels through the area. "It was well known they did that, but everybody kept quiet."
White said he recently lost three friends — all former soldiers — to cancer. They all suffered lingering, painful deaths, he said.
"I just felt ... enough about hiding stuff. Bring it out into the public that this did occur," White said. "Perhaps I should have brought it forth years ago after I was released from the military and I didn't, and I'm probably wrong for not doing that."
He said he would like clear, definitive answers from National Defence about the site "so that people can be at rest."
Dwernychuk said it's a bitter disappointment to hear now about what White said he saw decades past, given that he didn't come forward when the battle for recognition and federal compensation for those exposed to Agent Orange at Gagetown was being fought a dozen years ago.
"I would speculate that the government would have taken it more seriously if he had come forward earlier," he said.
"There is always going to be the question of, 'Why did you wait so long?'"
There are more Agent Orange barrels out there, says former DND employee
Minister Sajjan insists CFB Gagetown is safe - but critics are calling for new soil tests
The Department of National Defence may have
dug up and disposed of barrels containing chemicals at a New Brunswick
military base decades ago — but they're not the ones at the centre of a
renewed controversy over Agent Orange use at CFB Gagetown, said a former
civilian employee of the department.
Robert Wilcox told CBC News that he was present when chemical drums were buried and when they were later dug up again in an area of the base known as the Shirley Road dump.
The claim this week by retired military police sergeant Al White — who said he witnessed the burial of at least 40 barrels of the toxic defoliant in late spring 1985 — represents something entirely new and significant, said Wilcox.
"I think there's more out there," he told CBC News in an interview.
Defence
Minister Harjit Sajjan said Wednesday his department is looking into
White's allegation, but insisted the base in southwestern New Brunswick —
one of the largest combat training centres in the country — is safe.
"A lot of extensive work has been done," Sajjan said. "Independent research, with the right experts, has been conducted. A lot of the Agent Orange, those drums people talk about, have been removed."
The excavation Sajjan spoke of also took place in 1985 and involved the recovery of 637 uncrushed barrels — 104 of which contained some form of "liquid," according to DND — and another 135 drums that had been crushed.
Wilcox said he was there when many of those barrels were buried in 1975. He claimed the department only dug them up 10 years later because an excavator had uncovered the area by mistake.
Agent Orange is a toxic defoliant used by the U.S. military in the Vietnam conflict. It was sprayed at CFB Gagetown in 1966 and 1967 as part of a secret program run by the U.S. military, with permission from Canada.
Exposure to the defoliant can lead to skin disorders, liver problems and certain types of cancers. After years of stonewalling by National Defence, the former Conservative government set aside almost $100 million in 2007 for Canadians who demonstrate health conditions related to the use of defoliants.
Ottawa also reversed a decision to reject compensation for dozens of soldiers and their families exposed to the defoliant who later became ill.
Carol Parker-Brown represents the Agent Orange Association, which still lobbies for more federal disclosure on the program. She said the separate eyewitness accounts offered by Wilcox — who worked for the department for 35 years — and White suggest that Agent Orange was buried in more than one spot on the base.
That, she said, should be all the federal government needs to know to order a deeper investigation.
"I think it's definitely important," said Parker-Brown. "They didn't do a thorough job in the first place and they should come back and do a proper job."
DND conducted soil tests at Gagetown more than a decade ago and found 10 areas deemed to have unacceptable levels of chemicals related to the aerial spraying program. The grounds were remediated, according to department records.
The risk of contamination from long-buried drums could be more significant than the contamination identified by those soil tests, said Brown-Parker, adding the problem calls for deep core sampling and not just "prettying up."
Sajjan would not say precisely what kind of review the department will undertake.
"Right now, based on your story, we are looking into this," the minister told CBC News following question period.
CBC News asked for access to the base so White could show defence officials where he saw the barrels being buried. The request was denied. Sajjan showed no sign Wednesday of reversing that decision.
Late Wednesday, White said he had not heard from defence officials.
White told CBC News he didn't come forward about the burial at the time because he didn't believe it was his secret to share.
That changed when he lost three friends — all Gagetown soldiers — to cancer.
Wilcox, who applied and was rejected under Ottawa's compensation program, has lobbied both Sajjan and former Veterans Affairs minister Kent Hehr to reopen the investigation into what happened at the base.
"The research confirmed that the base is safe and that the majority of people did not experience long-term health effects from the testing that was done," Hehr wrote on June 23, 2016.
Wilcox said that's unacceptable.
"A lot of people around here died at a young age, especially from the base," he said.
"Yes, there (are) more barrels out there."
Robert Wilcox told CBC News that he was present when chemical drums were buried and when they were later dug up again in an area of the base known as the Shirley Road dump.
The claim this week by retired military police sergeant Al White — who said he witnessed the burial of at least 40 barrels of the toxic defoliant in late spring 1985 — represents something entirely new and significant, said Wilcox.
"I think there's more out there," he told CBC News in an interview.
"A lot of extensive work has been done," Sajjan said. "Independent research, with the right experts, has been conducted. A lot of the Agent Orange, those drums people talk about, have been removed."
The excavation Sajjan spoke of also took place in 1985 and involved the recovery of 637 uncrushed barrels — 104 of which contained some form of "liquid," according to DND — and another 135 drums that had been crushed.
Wilcox said he was there when many of those barrels were buried in 1975. He claimed the department only dug them up 10 years later because an excavator had uncovered the area by mistake.
Agent Orange is a toxic defoliant used by the U.S. military in the Vietnam conflict. It was sprayed at CFB Gagetown in 1966 and 1967 as part of a secret program run by the U.S. military, with permission from Canada.
'Do a proper job'
Exposure to the defoliant can lead to skin disorders, liver problems and certain types of cancers. After years of stonewalling by National Defence, the former Conservative government set aside almost $100 million in 2007 for Canadians who demonstrate health conditions related to the use of defoliants.
Ottawa also reversed a decision to reject compensation for dozens of soldiers and their families exposed to the defoliant who later became ill.
Carol Parker-Brown represents the Agent Orange Association, which still lobbies for more federal disclosure on the program. She said the separate eyewitness accounts offered by Wilcox — who worked for the department for 35 years — and White suggest that Agent Orange was buried in more than one spot on the base.
That, she said, should be all the federal government needs to know to order a deeper investigation.
"I think it's definitely important," said Parker-Brown. "They didn't do a thorough job in the first place and they should come back and do a proper job."
DND conducted soil tests at Gagetown more than a decade ago and found 10 areas deemed to have unacceptable levels of chemicals related to the aerial spraying program. The grounds were remediated, according to department records.
The risk of contamination from long-buried drums could be more significant than the contamination identified by those soil tests, said Brown-Parker, adding the problem calls for deep core sampling and not just "prettying up."
'We are looking into this'
Sajjan would not say precisely what kind of review the department will undertake.
"Right now, based on your story, we are looking into this," the minister told CBC News following question period.
CBC News asked for access to the base so White could show defence officials where he saw the barrels being buried. The request was denied. Sajjan showed no sign Wednesday of reversing that decision.
Late Wednesday, White said he had not heard from defence officials.
White told CBC News he didn't come forward about the burial at the time because he didn't believe it was his secret to share.
That changed when he lost three friends — all Gagetown soldiers — to cancer.
Wilcox, who applied and was rejected under Ottawa's compensation program, has lobbied both Sajjan and former Veterans Affairs minister Kent Hehr to reopen the investigation into what happened at the base.
"The research confirmed that the base is safe and that the majority of people did not experience long-term health effects from the testing that was done," Hehr wrote on June 23, 2016.
Wilcox said that's unacceptable.
"A lot of people around here died at a young age, especially from the base," he said.
"Yes, there (are) more barrels out there."
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