Methinks it should be no surprise as to how easy the Yankees conned Trudeau "The Younger" and his cohorts N'esy Pas?

 I also should be no surprise as to how I dealt with the CBC trolls today

Its not rocket science to figure out why the right and left wing Trolls attack me and try to bury my comments etc. Clearly I made certain they knew who I was before the last leaders debate in Ontario.

Methinks that what remains of the "most liked" comment threads in this article about Hitler memes still tells the true tale on the Trolls CBC supports N'esy Pas?


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/tasleem-riaz-andrea-horwath-ndp-facebook-1.4677603

Ontario NDP under fire for candidate's Hitler-themed social media post

NDP Leader Andrea Horwath offered words of support for candidate in Scarborough-Agincourt

CBC News · Posted: May 25, 2018

  


Greg Anderson

Comical... 20 yrs ago you posted a pic of a dog. Meanwhile Doug is on audio getting bogus memberships. Sigh... politics is a dirty game.

David Amos

@Michael Murphy "Right wingers are hilarious"

Methinks you should know that left wingers are every bit as comical N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@Greg Anderson "Sigh... politics is a dirty game"

Oh So True Methinks Ford can win of without a platform on one issue alone Getting rid of Carbon Tax is his hot ticket to a mandate N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@David Amos "Sigh... politics is a dirty game"

Methinks it should be fairly obvious to many why the second most like thread just went "Poof" N'esy Pas?

 
Roy Stephenson

Newsflash!!! Horwath is toast as the Tories have a video of one of her candidates spitting on the sidewalk fifteen years ago. Way worse than Ford giving out bogus memberships to backstab his own Christine Elliot! Oh the humanity!

David Amos

@Roy Stephenson Methinks this is just another tempest in a teapot but its fun to watch N'esy Pas?

John Oaktree

@Lester Rowe

Freedom of speech is guaranteed by the Charter of Rights and Freedoms in Canada and by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution...

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David Amos

@John Oaktree Methinks its not guaranteed within CBC comment sections N'esy Pas?

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David Amos

@John Oaktree "Content disabled" Methinks that CBC just proved my point in spades N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@John Oaktree Methinks it should be easy to understand why I blog, tweet, email and use the phone so much in order to protect my rights and interests (and yours as well ) and most importantly my right to the Freedom of Speech in Canada and the USA so that the truth may become well known N'esy Pas?

Anyone can Google the following words to reach an understanding

Trump NATFA FATCA Amos

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David Amos

@Lester Rowe With regards to your joke about Free Speech methinks the link below provides a very good example as to why I ran against all political parties five times thus far in order to protect that right N'esy Pas?

Please read the comment section

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276

Then Google the following words and check the tally of viewers of that debate then compare it to the ones in Ontario right now and in the past.

Fundy Royal Debate

mo bennett

@David Amos methinks it should be easy for a politician to do their job, but, as usual, they prove 24/7/365, they are totally incapable of performing that task! proof is on the news every hour of every day!

David Amos

@mo bennett Methinks you would have enjoyed my reply to Lester Rowe that CBC blocked 4 hours ago but you know where to find it N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@david mccaig Methinks the link below provides a very good example as to why I ran against all political parties five times thus far N'esy Pas?

Please read the comment section

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276

Then Google the following words

Fundy Royal Debate

 
Angela Zione

If howling about a Facebook meme from 2013 is the best the PCs can come up with, they've already lost this election.

David Amos

@Angela Zione It is pretty comical

Mike Martin

@Bob DeJohn
Did she post it though? I've posted a grand total of 5-6 times to my FB page, and the feed is filled with all sorts of things my friends think are funny or infuriating, whether I agree with them or not.

Patrick Martin

@Mike Martin
It appears that someone else posted it on her facebook page. She had nothing to do with it. I have not taken the time to check but it appears that others have.

David Amos

@Mike Martin Exactly

Methinks that is why this is a Tempest in a Teapot N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@David Amos Methinks you may enjoy a little Deja Vu to review N'esy Pas?

Mike Martin
@David Amos What does "N'esy Pas" mean by the way?

David Amos
@Mike Martin Thanks for asking.

Way back in 2006 I was dicing with a rather well known nasty French blogger in New Brunswick within his own blog 2 years after I gave him a free computer. He is now CTV and CBC's favourite blogger in the Maritimes. When I busted Chucky in front of his fans, he blocked me. However his fan base demanded that he unblock me so they could watch the circus between he and I . He then demanded that I be nice so I typed N'esy Pas? and asked him if that was nice enough for him. Ever since I have used it as my signature to tease him and his pals in CBC. True story.

mo bennett

@David Amos methinks messy paws is purely for comic relief. may the good lord, shine a light on you, make every song you sing, yer favorite tune.

 

Al Freeman

When Doug Ford was caught on audio fudging the sales of Conservative memberships he responded by saying "that was in 2016". This out-of-context allegation allegedly occurred in 2013. Why aren't the Conservatives applying the same standard?

Roy Stephenson

@Al Freeman Ford ran out the back door of his own rally in Brantford to avoid reporters (other than the ones he hired). He has a big security detail so no one can ask him why he cheated Elliot.

John Gerrits

@Al Freeman Why?...because anyone from any party would do the same.

David Amos

@John Gerrits True

David Amos

@Roy Stephenson "He has a big security detail so no one can ask him why he cheated Elliot."

Methinks if folks want some food for thought about Conservatives they should Google the following ASAP N'esy Pas?

David Raymond Amos Christine Elliott

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/pipeline-morneau-nationalize-1.4682199

Bill Morneau's Kinder Morgan surprise comes with huge price tag, lots of political risk: Chris Hall

Ottawa says buying the company's Trans Mountain pipeline is the only way to ensure the expansion gets built

Chris Hall · CBC News · Posted: May 29, 2018 12:05 PM ET

2785 Comments

Commenting is now closed for this story.



David Amos

Here is you tip of the day Google the following word

Trump Morneau Amos FATCA NAFTA

David Amos

@David Amos Please Excuse my misspellings

"POOF"
Fletch Peterson

Trudeau made this bed and now Canadians have to lie in it???

$4.5 Billion is a lot of Pimping money.... Canadians just got molested by incompetence

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David Amos

@Fletch Peterson "Canadians just got molested by incompetence"

Methinks that happens every day of the week in every country around the world N'esy Pas?

Fletch Peterson

1) Pipeline was approved by Liberal Justin
2) Pipeline falls under Federal Jurisdiction and Justin's power to enforce

Why did this cost one red cent? Neglect of this file from Day one, Focus on dispersing Canadians wealth to other countries, 100% pure unadulterated incompetence......

Canadians are now footing a $4.5 Billion dollar plus bill to pay for incompetence.....

David Amos

@Fletch Peterson "Why did this cost one red cent?"

Methinks there is a certain big Yankee conman who wrote a book about such things called the " The Art of the Deal" Nesy Pas?

 

"POOF" 
William Ben

Liberals suck...

David Amos

@William Ben Methinks its strange that the most liked comment is merely two words that if I had posted them I would have been blocked in a heartbeat N'esy Pas?

 

William Ben

This sums up the whole fiasco perfectly,

"He (Justin Trudeau) has chased away the investment on two other major pipelines … and now he's asking taxpayers to pay for the third," Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer said Tuesday.

I'm with Scheer on this one 100%

David Amos

@William Ben "I'm with Scheer on this one 100%"

Methinks that goes without saying N'esy Pas?

mo bennett

@David Amos steve ll has messy paws ll !!

David Amos

@mo bennett Yo Mo Methinks its not wise to pull the tail and jerk the chain of a rather fierce political animal's N'esy Pas?

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David Amos

@david mccaig Oh My My Methinks I see three more redundant comments to bury mine as you continue to like yourself N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@david mccaig OH My My Methinks thinks other folks can figure out why CBC posts four comments of yours while it blocks one of mine N'esy Pas?

colin smith

@William Ben

Conservative killed Northern Gateway, Liberals chose not pick that ball up. Energy East died the second trump started Keystone up again, interesting no movement there though.

With the now Canada owned pipeline expansion for Transmountain it will get built.

David Amos

@colin smith Methinks that it will no doubt upset both the left and right wingnuts that I wholeheartedly agree with you again. N'esy Pas?

 

William Ben

This is a problem of Trudeau's own making, and now we are expected to trust Trudeau to get this done laughable - lets be frank here the LPC do not have the Leadership, skill sets or political will or respect of the nation to get this done, this is $4.5B sunk cost for millennials to pay back out of their pockets, enjoy glad you voted for vanity over substance.

David Amos

@William Ben "This is a problem of Trudeau's own making"

Methinks this is a problem created by the dumb NDP and the Green MLAS ruling the roost in BC N'esy Pas?

John Harold Herbert

Poor Trudeau hoisted by his own petard. We lose billions annually with no access to Tidewater. But he shut down Northern Gateway because Harper would get credit & T-Can East to save Lib seats in Que. Now he has to have KM no matter that it will cost Taxpayers billions. Once again a Trudeau's ego and their desire to cater to Quebec is costing the whole country. Perfect example of Laurentian Elitism and Liberal entitlement.

David Amos

@John Harold Herbert "Poor Trudeau hoisted by his own petard"

Methinks the same can be said of your hero Harper as well N'esy Pas?

mo bennett

@David Amos any politician is just plain bad for yer long term health and well being. they prove it every day of the year.

David Amos

@mo bennett YO Mo You Know I Do Not Disagree Methinks you must have have took my advice and Googled the following long ago N'esy Pas?

Trump NAFTA FATCA Amos Morneau

david mccaig

@John Harold Herbert

Still nothing from the federal NDP under NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh , who've been MISSING IN ACTION throughout this entire KINDER MORGAN pipeline disaster.

David Amos

@david mccaig Methinks I should not be surprised to watch a left wingnut bury my comment quickly and like himself each time he did it N'esy Pasy Pas?

David Amos

@david mccaig Methinks NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh must have finally read the emails I sent him when he was an MLA I suspect that you took my advice and Googled the following long ago N'esy Pas?

Trump NAFTA FATCA Amos Morneau

David Amos

@david mccaig Methinks there is only one reason why you refused to respond to my tip to Google the following and opted to merely bury it N'esy Pas?

Trump NAFTA FATCA Amos Morneau

David Amos

@Tom Barry "Singh is already a footnote."

Methinks he was out of the gate when he didn't bother to try to get a seat in Parliament N'esy Pas?

 

colin smith

@John Harold Herbert

Northern Gateway was never viable. Compare the two the Transmountain pipeline exist and has existed for over 50 years. Northern Gateway is new. The port the Transmountain goes already has tanker traffic the port for Northern Gateway did not. Clear Northern Gateway was a stupid idea. It would be easier to take that pipeline to Alaska and they are looking at that.

David Amos

@colin smith I wholeheartedly agree sir.

FYI I don't agree with sending it to Alaska but I said the same things during debates while I was running in the election of the 42nd Parliament in the riding called Fundy Royal. No kidding.

Methinks some folks may find it as comical as I that the both left and right wingnuts are attacking a fierce fun loving Maritime political animal without bothering to check who I am first N'esy Pas?

  

Scotty Davidson

Carbon taxes and pipelines, only a fool would believe we should be paying for both...

David Amos

@Scotty Davidson Methinks that is one of the big reasons I am enjoying the circus so much today The irony is beyond ridiculous N'esy Pas?

 
Don Cameron

Lunacy.
Billions of dollars to buy it. Many Billions more to build it. No buy in by many indig enous groups. A growing opposition to the project by activist groups.

This file is a mess, and Trudeau is trying to buy his way out of it, with our cheque book.
It's bad, but it's going to get worse. A lot worse.

Gordon MacFarlane

@Richard Sharp

Two posts in a row with two personal attacks.

Sadly obviously that when posters have nothing of merit with which to rebut they simply attack and smear.

Sunny ways everyone

David Amos

@Gordon MacFarlane "Sadly obviously that when posters have nothing of merit with which to rebut they simply attack and smear."

Methinks you are talking to a ghost about yourself N'esy Pas?

Gordon MacFarlane

@David Amos

Methinks you are barking up the wrong tree, Netty Pot?

David Amos

@Gordon MacFarlane Methinks you are in light of the fact that your liberal buddy is already gone Trust that I will argue you N'esy Pas?

Gordon MacFarlane

@David Amos

Methinks your post is approaching incomprehensible word salad and I have no interest arguing with strangers Netty Pot?

David Amos

@Gordon MacFarlane Methinks the same should be said of you in light of the obvious fact that in lieu of a conversation and or debate you would rather insult people who disagree with you I bet you would never admit that you know why I ran for public office five times thus far even though most likely Googled me to see if what i say is true N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@david mccaig Methinks you must be on a mission to bury everything I post today N'esy Pas?

 

Gordon MacFarlane

@David Amos

Methinks it is time you realized that I have zero interest in how or why you crave attention Netty Pot?

I "google" things I find interesting and/or relevant.

Thus far I have found you to be neither....feel free to while away the day "googling" yourself

Steven Arsenault

@Gordon MacFarlane

It does say something when someone knows he is driving others batty with saying something like n'sey pas but carries on anyways. Psychologically not necessarily interesting but what it says about someone is.

David Amos

@Gordon MacFarlane Methinks you should Google your name and mine sometime you may find something interesting N'esy Pas?

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David Amos

@Steven Arsenault "Psychologically not necessarily interesting but what it says about someone is."

Methinks you will get a giggle finding your comment in the same blog as your buddy's words N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@Steven Arsenault Methinks the shrink in you may enjoyed my response had it not been blocked N'esy Pas?

James Baudelaire

Another day, another mess and financial disaster, that's what you get when liberals or NDP are in power. Welcome to Communism my dear Canadian taxpayers, just watch how your pockets and your children's pockets will get lighter by the day, generation after generation.

David Amos

@James Baudelaire Methinks many folks are wondering what you would have said if the liberals had done nothing N'esy Pas?

Richard Sharp

@James Baudelaire

Such hysteria. And you have no idea about higher taxes. From what is presented so far, the feds, Alberta and BC will all benefit for the next several decades.

David Amos

@Richard Sharp "Such hysteria. And you have no idea about higher taxes"

Methinks that you would never dare to debate me about taxation if you checked my files about the IRS, SEC, CRA and KPMG Anyone can Google the following N'esy Pas?

Diane Lebouthillier CRA KPMG David Amos

 

David Amos

@Gordon MacFarlane Methinks you should Google a few names and mine sometime N'esy Pas?

Here are two to start with

David Amos Russ Girling

David Amos 

@david mccaig Oh My My three more from you This is no coincidence N'esy Pas?

Gordon MacFarlane

@David Amos

I "google" things i find interesting and/or relevant.

So....I'll pass thanks, Netty Pot?

David Amos

@Gordon MacFarlane "I "google" things i find interesting and/or relevant. "

Methinks you just admitted that your words are neither N'esy Pas?

  

brian duog

one step closer to turn Canada into a 3rd world bankrupt nation

Jane Beagle

@brian duog
Try again, without moderation hopefully. Justin just chased votes from him to Jagmeet. This is actually worse than Justin having those votes...if you can even imagine that craziness.
Anyway. Best of luck Canada. Here's to sanity in 2019.

David Amos

@Jane Beagle "Justin just chased votes from him to Jagmeet"

Methinks the Lady doth jest too much N'esy Pas?

 

Fletch Peterson

"Federal Jurisdiction" was not enacted by Justin because because he is WELL aware that he is nothing close to being a Prime Minister....

His incompetence has cost us dearly yet again when this was an approved pipeline and WELL within his Jurisdiction..... mismanged this file from day-1

Jerry O'Connor

@Fletch Peterson

One thing that I do believe of this pipeline matter is that as a result of Canada's constitution, such inter movement of natural resourse from province to province is in fact........a fedseral jurisdiction and has always been one thus making whatever decision a ruling prime minister of Canada makes..........it is a legal one based on firm constituional foundation.

David Amos

@Jerry O'Connor Perhaps when it comes to oil. However methinks the firm constitutional foundation does not apply to beer N'esy Pas? 

Joshua Stein

lol at all the Harper haters that trashed him for investing in oil.

Now here’s their boy Trudeau BUYING a pipeline.

Bob Strike

@Mike Hamilton It's not Partisanship, it's Red Blue color blindness

David Amos

@Bob Strike YUP

  

Rob Frost

Liberals have no problem spending other peoples money and throwing it into black holes. This decision is yet more proof of that. Not good for Canadians. Hopefully they are gone next year and sanity returns to the government.

Jerry O'Connor

@Rob Frost

That is one of my early Christmas wishes for 2019 that........Trudeau and his Liberals BE GONE.

David Amos

@Jerry O'Connor Methinks that you may get your wish However if you do a lot of folks won't be happy with Harper 2.0 N'esy Pas?

Richard Dekkar

This just may be the tipping point to make the Liberal party an extinct species. The process to extinction starts in Ontario on June 7.

David Amos

@Richard Dekkar Methinks most folks in Ontario agree with you N'esy Pas?

Charlize Croft

When you manage to tick off both sides of such s contentious issue there is no risk. You have simply sealed your fate.

Jane Beagle

@Charlize Croft

My biggest fear now...the strength this goof has given to Jagmeet. Oh Canada.

David Amos

@Jane Beagle Methinks many folks fear that this nonsense may seem to give Harper 2.0 some credibility N'esy Pas?

 

David Amos

@Jane Beagle Methinks that a lot of Canadians will not appreciate this wealthy Yankee being so cheerful N'esy Pas?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/tmx-kinder-morgan-sale-1.4682048

'A great day': Kinder Morgan CEO cheerful after Trans Mountain sale

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/tmx-kinder-morgan-sale-1.4682048

'A great day': Kinder Morgan CEO cheerful after Trans Mountain sale

Company sells existing pipeline and proposed expansion project to the federal government

Kyle Bakx · CBC News · Posted: May 29, 2018 10:25 AM ET

 

144 Comments 

Commenting is now closed for this story.

  

Michael Jay

If Steve Kean isn't nominated for CEO of the year there is a big problem. He just executed the best Canadian exit strategy yet!

Canada is an investment joke!

  

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David Amos

@Michael Jay Canada is an investment joke!

I agree but there is no need for the Yankee Steve Keanto be CEO of the year Methinks everybody knows one does not have  be all that clever to con Trudeau "The Younger" and his cohorts N'esy Pas?

  

Ed Sager

Translation: Canada is a bad place to invest and we're glad to be able to put our money elsewhere. For the sake of all Canadians, let us hope that the same federal project managers in charge of the Phoenix fiasco are not reassigned to the pipeline.

David Amos

@Ed Sager Methinks that a lot of Canadians will not appreciate this wealthy Yankee being so cheerful N'esy Pas?

 

Norm Dixon

Of course he is Happy!!! Because KM is no longer on the hook for the Investment in such a chaotic business environment. Better to invest in the US and Mexico where things get done!!! But hey, the Canadian tax payer now owns the Pipe and are 100% liable, thank you Liberals!!! :S

Only in Canada!!!!

David Amos

@Norm Dixon YUP

  

Rob Woods

While disappointed it has come to this, at least we can get the pipeline built. I think as a BC resident it is shameful that the provincial government is challenging a previously approved project. Hopefully the politicians and government bureaucracy will leave the corporation/project in the hand of the experts in running and building a pipeline otherwise this will become a boondoggle of epic proportions.

Phillip Smirnoff

@ian rutherford
Speaking for "majority", aren't you?

David Amos

@Phillip Smirnoff Nay Not I. Methinks the Crown and legions of Yankees know why I ran for public office in Canada five times after suing 3 US Treasury Agents and a host Yankee lawyers in 2002 N'esy Pas?

 

Ian Mackie

Well, I hope the NDP supporters in BC are happy with this. Now, instead of private capital, we have to put up public capital just to get some infrastructure built.

The end result will be no different. The line will be built.

David Amos

@Ian Mackie "The end result will be no different. The line will be built."

YUP

 

Joe OBlenis

ZERO government money should be going into this. I'm disgusted with the Federal Liberals right now. This pipeline should have just been allowed to die away!

David Amos

@Joe OBlenis "I'm disgusted with the Federal Liberals right now"

Me Too

 

Hugh MacDonald

If this was a mining deal, Kinder Morgan got the "gold" and Canadian taxpayers got the "shaft".

David Amos

@Hugh MacDonald Methinks many a true word is said in jest N'esy Pas?

 

George Fon

Are Canadians happy for this???...the only winner was KM.

David Amos

@George Fon "the only winner was KM"

YUP Methinks they just made a big score on a very old pipe N'esy Pas?.

Steve Harris

Good. Now, let's build it, and ship our products to world markets.

David Amos

@Steve Harris "Now, let's build it, and ship our products to world markets."

Methinks that is the least we should do. We should also sell the damned pipe ASAP N'esy Pas?

 

Robert Hosfield

There should have been a move to charge BC for cost overruns as a result of their protest/delay tactics for Trans Mountain, a project they previously signed off on.

Under Cdn. law, the feds have jurisdiction over inter Provincial pipelines.

Perhaps BC should be acting to stop the 400 or so tankers that transport Alaskan to US refineries, oil off their coast, as Canada gets no net benefit as a result.

Ryan Singer

@Jimmy Bauder That's kind of academic now, isn't it? Thanks to this decision we're all responsible.

David Amos

@Ryan Singer Sad but oh so true

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/liberals-trans-mountain-pipeline-kinder-morgan-1.4681911

Liberals to buy Trans Mountain pipeline for $4.5B to ensure expansion is built

Canadian public could also incur millions to construct expansion project with estimated price tag of $7.4B

Kathleen Harris · CBC News · Posted: May 29, 2018 8:15 AM ET

8155 Comments
Commenting is now closed for this story.

David Amos

Tip of the day for CBC Google the following ASAP

Trump NAFTA FATCA Amos Morneau

 
Paul Douglas

A constitutional crisis of the Trudeau Liberals own making.
The Canadian taxpayer will foot the bill once again.

David Amos

@david mccaig "The ONLY TIME these right wingers agree with Justin Trudeau IS WHEN HE'S WRONG"

Methinks the left wingnuts are having a bad day N'esy Pas?

 

Rick Guthrie

A small minority of alarmist must not be allowed to stop this national project.

Erika Blair

@Rick Guthrie
Actually, it's about half the nation against this federal move and that will only grow. The Liberals are finished in the west.

David Amos

@David Amos Methinks interested parties should Google the following and start surfing N'esy Pas?

Trump NAFTA FATCA Amos Morneau

David Amos

@Erika Blair Methinks Trudeau The Younger and his sunny days and sunny ways in 2015 may be a mere matter of history for his peoplekind to review now that even his Carbon Tax plan is jeopardy if Doug Ford wins a mandate N'esy Pas?

  

Marc R Henry

In other words, Canada and the Trudeau Liberals were incapable of getting its act together so that a private company could come in and complete a simple project at no cost to taxpayers. In my books the Trudeau Liberals have failed, regardless of how the pipeline gets built . They'll throw unlimited taxpayer dollars at this now to try cut their political losses. Heck, even Nanos has the Liberals in second place in the polls now.

Rob Lehtisaari

@Marc R Henry

Those thinking simply, might be found of simple thinking.

David Amos

@Rob Lehtisaari Methinks that many of my political foes may wish to claim that I resemble that remark N'esy Pas?

However it appears that they forgot I am for the pipelines going east and west but not south.

Fundy Royal, New Brunswick Debate – Federal Elections 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cFOKT6TlSE

 

Dale Boire

Whatever the decision the taxpayer will likely be on the hook.

Joseph Power

@Dale Boire

"The first 20 years of expanded operations would mean a combined government revenue of $46.7 billion, with $5.7 billion for B.C., $19.4 billion for Alberta and $21.6 billion for the rest of Canada."

Did you even read the article?

David Amos

@Dale Boire "wishful thinking is always the starting dialogue"

Well Put Sir

  

Clint Allen

I just can't believe how utterly incompetent this government is.
It's just not Trudeau either, although he so incompetent he's responsible for it all.
It's his choice in ministers, one after another.
I can't think of a single one, except perhaps Garneau that is basically competent.
Worst government in Canadian history.

David Amos

@John Gerrits "It's called Sunny Ways. Incompetent PM appointing diverse,incompetent ministers making diverse incompetent decisions for inclusion.."

YUP

 

Don Cameron

Canadian Press is reporting the Feds are considering BUYING Transmountain as one of the options to solve their pipeline conundrum.

No matter what they choose, it looks like this debacle is going to cost Canadians Billions and Billions of dollars.

Trudeau thinks that every problem can be solved by throwing money at it. Our money.

Dwight Williams

@Don Cameron

What I find really fascinating is that pro-pipeline people here are so stupid that you can write a post which can be seen as tacitly opposed to getting the KM pipeline done, but as long as you criticize Trudeau they will still give you plenty of 'likes'.

That's a far worse problem for our democracy than anything Trudeau is going to do.

David Amos

@Dwight Williams "What I find really fascinating is that pro-pipeline people here are so stupid"

Methinks its the stupidly of the clowns that helps folks enjoy the circus N'esy Pas?

  

Daryl McBride

Announcing to the world, Canada is closed for business unless it is tax payer funded.

Jacob Hobart

@Daryl McBride Hye now, centrally managed projects are good. That Phoenix project worked out pretty well right? Ah...wait...

Rick Wier

@Jacob Hobart conservative project, rushed to completion so harper could claim he had done something, conservative failure

Daryl McBride

@Rick Wier

Because Trudeau implemented it after he was told it wasn't ready?

David Amos

@Daryl McBride True

 

Jerry Maguire

Trudeau telling the world we cannot move away from oil fast enough and his finance minister telling a private funding pipeline company and the world we will foot the bill for the pipeline is what we have today folks. The dichotomy of virtue signal and government incompetence is astounding.

David Amos

@Jerry Maguire "The dichotomy of virtue signal and government incompetence is astounding."

Methinks you should study things south of the 49th if you enjoy a circus N'esy Pas?

  

Jacques Renoir

This will be Trudeau's Waterloo.

Karen King

@Dary Moed

Apology for what, he got 'er done

Angelica West

@Karen King Nothings done yet cowpoke.

David Amos

@Angelica West ROTFLMAO

  

Richard Dekkar

None of this was necessary. With real political leadership, the laws of this country would be enforced and the pipeline would be built without any taxpayer money at risk. Instead, Canada has become an international laughingstock for deliberately working to hobble its own economy.

David Amos 

@Richard Dekkar "None of this was necessary. With real political leadership, the laws of this country would be enforced and the pipeline would be built without any taxpayer money at risk."

I wholeheartedly agree Sir. Methinks it should be no surprise as to why CBC did not offer a comment section about this "News" item today N'esy Pas?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/energy-east-saint-john-darling-trans-mountain-federal-1.4683280

Saint John mayor calls on feds to revive Energy East after $4.5B Trans Mountain deal

Don Darling says TransCanada's proposed pipeline project also had 'a lot of merit'

CBC News · Posted: May 29, 2018 9:41 PM AT | 

Saint John Mayor Dan Darling hasn't given up on the Energy East pipeline project. (CBC)


Saint John Mayor Don Darling is calling on the federal government to revive the Energy East pipeline in light of its decision Tuesday to spend $4.5 billion to purchase the Trans Mountain pipeline and save the contentious expansion to the B.C. coast.

Last fall, the TransCanada Corp. abandoned its plan to build a pipeline to move crude oil from Alberta to an export terminal in Saint John, blaming new environmental criteria for the project.

But Darling wonders whether the federal government might now intervene.

"It does not seem fair that we couldn't get the level of support," he said. "I mean, it seems like this is a project that the federal government is going to push through at all costs."

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"In the case of the Energy East project, I mean, I think the project had a lot of merit. The oil continues to be shipped here by rail bed. We just couldn't seem to get the level of commitment that is being demonstrated … on the West Coast."

Jim Irving, co-chief executive officer of J.D. Irving Limited, also addressed the issue with reporters Tuesday, following his luncheon address marking the Saint John Chamber's 200th anniversary.

"I'm not going to get into the politics of it, that's not my job. But I will tell you we should not let go of Energy East. It's still the right thing for the country," he said.

"This is not just about our region, this is about Canada. You need to get the oil to market on a competitive basis, absolutely essential. And for this part of the country, for New Brunswick in particular, Saint John, [it's] absolutely very important.

"So we'd encourage everybody in Ottawa not to let go. Stick with it."

Jim Irving, co-chief executive officer of J.D. Irving Limited, told reporters the Energy East pipeline 'would be the right thing to have,' not just for New Brunswick, but Canada. (CBC)

Federal Finance Minister Bill Morneau called the decision to purchase the existing Trans Mountain pipeline and the proposed expansion from Kinder Morgan "an investment in Canada's future."

Kinder Morgan had estimated the cost of building the expansion would be $7.4 billion, but Morneau insisted the project will not have a fiscal impact.

He said many groups have already expressed interest in eventually buying the pipeline, including Indigenous groups and pension funds, but it will operate as a Crown corporation for now.

The decision to buy the pipeline came after Kinder Morgan threatened to abandon the project, which is facing opposition and delays by the B.C. government.

Energy East further behind

Federal officials pointed out Tuesday that Trans Mountain was approved by both the National Energy Board and the federal cabinet in 2016, while Energy East never reached that point because of delays to the hearings.

Analysts also said the approval of other pipelines, including Trans Mountain and Keystone XL, weakened the business case for Energy East.

Still, Darling said he plans to follow up with Energy East proponents to see if it's something they can move on.

The proposed Energy East project would have carried more than one million barrels of oil every day from Alberta and Saskatchewan across the country to be refined or exported from plants in New Brunswick and Quebec.

5 more tankers a month

It would have added 1,500 kilometres worth of new oil pipelines to an existing network of more than 3,000 kilometres, which would have been converted from carrying natural gas to carrying oil.

The Trans Mountain agreement, which must still be approved by Kinder Morgan's shareholders, is expected to close in August.

The twinning of the 1,150-kilometre-long Trans Mountain pipeline between Strathcona County, near Edmonton, and Burnaby, B.C., will nearly triple its capacity to an estimated 890,000 barrels a day and increase traffic off B.C.'s coast from approximately five tankers to 34 tankers a month.

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Ottawa says buying the company's Trans Mountain pipeline is the only way to ensure the expansion gets built

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Finance Minister Bill Morneau says the decision to buy Kinder Morgan's Trans Mountain pipeline for $4.5 billion will guarantee work on the project goes ahead. (Christopher Katsarov/Canadian Press)



Bill Morneau handed out his version of a Kinder Morgan surprise on Tuesday, announcing the federal government will buy out the company's Trans Mountain pipeline in its entirety in order to ensure the proposed expansion of the line goes ahead.

Nationalizing an oil pipeline — even temporarily — was never the first option for the finance minister. But it became apparent during Morneau's negotiations with Kinder Morgan that it was the only one that would allow the Liberals to deliver on their promise to get the work done.

"The Trans Mountain project is of vital interest to Canada and Canadians," Morneau said on Tuesday. "Getting (it) built will preserve thousands of good, well-paying jobs."

But getting it done, and keeping that promise, comes with a steep price tag.

Taxpayers will foot the $4.5 billion purchase price. That sum doesn't include what could be billions of dollars in construction costs, or the costs of cleaning up a spill — although Morneau said Alberta's government will share the cost of any unexpected or emergency cost overruns.

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And there are no guarantees that the pipeline will return the investment when (and if) a buyer can be found sometime in the future — that selling the line will fetch an asking price that realizes the full value of the public money being invested.

Morneau said many private sector investors expressed interest in the project, though he failed to explain why none of them were prepared to take the same risk with shareholders' money he's taking with taxpayers' money, given the staunch public opposition and ongoing protests against the project at the pipeline's terminus in Burnaby, B.C.

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Finance Minister Bill Morneau explains the reasons behind the government's decision to buy the Trans Mountain pipeline for $4.5 billion. 2:21

He talked a good deal about how buying the project counters the political uncertainty created by British Columbia's NDP government. B.C. Premier John Horgan remains steadfast in his opposition to the project and has asked the province's highest court to rule on whether it has the constitutional right to impose environmental restrictions.

Big price tag, bigger political risk

Others will dissect the business case behind the federal government's decision, but the political calculations are just as important.

For Morneau and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, the decision to spend billions of dollars carries considerable risk now and into the future.

There's the prospect of continued protests. There's the possibility, however remote, of a court ruling that sides with the Horgan government.

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British Columbia will be a key battleground province in next year's election — a province where all three major political parties are competitive, the home base for Green Party Leader Elizabeth May.

May and New Democrat MPs oppose the project, insisting it is inconsistent with Canada's commitment to reducing climate-changing emissions and that it poses an unacceptable spill hazard to the B.C. coastline.

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The Conservatives support the expansion, but insist the Liberals' handling of the file has been so inept that the only option left to the government — after rejecting the proposed Northern Gateway pipeline and seeing Trans-Canada abandon its planned Energy East line — was to build this expanded pipeline with taxpayers' money.

"He has chased away the investment on two other major pipelines … and now he's asking taxpayers to pay for the third," Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer said Tuesday.

The Liberals, befitting their position as the centrist party, come down the middle. Trudeau went into Tuesday's cabinet meeting repeating the government's mantra that "we're going to get that pipeline built."

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He and his minister maintained that tripling Trans-Mountain's capacity from 300,000 to 890,00 barrels a day is in the national interest.

Putting a price on the national interest

The Liberals can — and likely will — argue that this decision also takes control of a vital piece of energy infrastructure away from a U.S.-based company.

"We've been saying for many, many months that the pipeline is good for the country not only for the many thousands of jobs it creates, but getting a better price for our crude internationally," Natural Resources Minister Jim Carr told the Commons on Monday.

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Natural Resources Minister Jim Carr says that the Trans Mountain pipeline purchase can help Canadians achieve a clean environment and good jobs. 1:48

This isn't the first time a federal government has nationalized a project, or spent billions of dollars of taxpayers' money on a private company. It's not the first time Ottawa put a price tag on the national interest.

Trudeau's father created Petro-Canada in the 1970s to counter the overwhelming U.S. dominance of the country's oil and gas sector.

Ottawa continues to hold an 8.5 per cent share in Hibernia — making it the fourth largest stakeholder behind oil giants Exxon, Chevron and Suncor. The project, which began production in 1997, is a commercial success.

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But taxpayers came up roughly $3.5 billion short in the 2009 bailouts of Chrysler and General Motors, even though the Conservative government of Stephen Harper insisted the investment saved the auto sector and thousands of jobs in this country. money maker or loser for taxpayers, whether the court case started by the B.C. government will drag on for months or even years, or whether the Liberals will get political credit for the decision when they go to the polls next year.

Add it all up, and Bill Morneau's bold decision to spend billions on a controversial pipeline may yield another, very different Kinder Morgan surprise next year.

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'A great day': Kinder Morgan CEO cheerful after Trans Mountain sale

Company sells existing pipeline and proposed expansion project to the federal government

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'We're happy to be participating in it,' said Steven Kean, chief executive of Kinder Morgan, after the federal Liberal government announced it was purchasing the Trans Mountain Expansion pipeline project. (Kyle Bakx/CBC, Erin Collins/CBC)

After several years of delays and uncertainty surrounding the Trans Mountain expansion project, the chief executive of Kinder Morgan was upbeat Tuesday morning as he discussed the $4.5-billion sale of the proposed pipeline to the Canadian government. 

"We think this is a great day not only for our company but for Canada, and we're happy to be participating in it," CEO Steve Kean said on a conference call with analysts and investors after FInance Minister Bill Morneau's announcement Tuesday.

The Liberal government will purchase the existing Trans Mountain pipeline and the proposed expansion. Construction is set to begin this summer and Ottawa will start picking up the tab for those costs.

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Kinder Morgan no longer carries the uncertainty surrounding the court challenges by Indigenous groups and the British Columbia government, which threatened to significantly delay the project.

"That's not a risk that we're carrying as part of this transaction," said Kean. "The entity will continue to prosecute the appeal, if you will, but it's not a residual risk that Kinder Morgan bears."

Kean described the sale as a "fair price." The deal is expected to close in the second half of this year.

In the meantime, Kinder Morgan will help the federal government find a third party for the pipeline and the proposed expansion by July 22. Even if a buyer is not found, Kinder Morgan will still be paid the $4.5-billion sale price.

Kinder Morgan will continue to own properties in Canada such as its storage facilities in Alberta and its Vancouver export terminal. The Houston-based company continues to say it wants to expand its operations in Canada.

"A decision has not yet been made on how to make the best use of the cash proceeds of the transaction. We're now laser focused on closing the transaction," said Kean.

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Kinder Morgan had temporarily halted work on the Trans Mountain expansion as opposition by the British Columbia government, in particular, escalated.

All shareholders of Kinder Morgan Canada must vote on the deal.

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Increase odds of construction

The federal government's decision to purchase the proposed pipeline "improves the likelihood this project proceeds to completion," said Kevin Birn, an oilsands analyst with IHS Markit.

"This announcement today [Tuesday] really underscores the degree of [the government's] conviction to see this project proceed."

Generally, the oilpatch industry welcomes Tuesday's development, although many would rather see the private sector build new projects without government intervention.

"It's concerning that the federal government felt they needed to acquire the project [and] invest taxpayers' money to assert their jurisdiction," said Chris Bloomer, chief executive of the Canadian Energy Pipeline Association.

At midday, Kinder Morgan Canada's stock was down about one per cent, while the parent company's stock was up about one per cent.

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Finance Minister Bill Morneau announced today the government is buying the Trans Mountain pipeline for $4.5 billion. (Chris Wattie/Reuters)



The Liberal government will buy the Trans Mountain pipeline and related infrastructure for $4.5 billion, and could spend billions more to build the controversial expansion.

Finance Minister Bill Morneau announced details of the agreement reached with Kinder Morgan at a news conference with Natural Resources Minister Jim Carr this morning, framing the short-term purchase agreement as financially sound and necessary to ensure a vital piece of energy infrastructure gets built.

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"Make no mistake, this is an investment in Canada's future," Morneau said.

Morneau said the project is in the national interest, and proceeding with it will preserve jobs, reassure investors and get resources to world markets. He said he couldn't state exactly what additional costs will be incurred by the Canadian public to build the expansion, but suggested a toll paid by oil companies could offset some costs and that there would be a financial return on the investment.

Kinder Morgan had estimated the cost of building the expansion would be $7.4 billion, but Morneau insisted that the project will not have a fiscal impact, or "hit."

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The Conservatives' Shannon Stubbs and the NDP's Jenny Kwan discuss the government's pipeline purchase. 8:37

He said the government does not intend to be a long-term owner, and at the appropriate time, the government will work with investors to transfer the project and related assets to a new owner or owners. Investors such as Indigenous groups and pension funds have already expressed interest, he said.

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Until then, the project will proceed under the ownership of a Crown corporation. The agreement, which must still be approved by Kinder Morgan's shareholders, is expected to close in August.

A senior government official, speaking on background, said the government hopes to get a new commercial buyer for the pipeline by August, but if that doesn't happen, it will put up the $4.5 billion to purchase the assets.

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Morneau says government is buying Trans Mountain pipeline

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Finance Minister Bill Morneau explains the reasons behind the government's decision to buy the Trans Mountain pipeline for $4.5 billion. 2:21

The government won't publicly discuss construction cost for the expansion because it wants private companies to carry out their own assessments, then bid on the project, the official said.

Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer said today's decision does nothing to advance the project, since the legal questions and obstacles still remain. He said the government has failed to take action to ensure certainty around the expansion by resolving jurisdictional issues.

"This is a very, very sad day for Canada's energy sector. The message that is being sent to the world is that in order to get a big project build in this country, the federal government has to nationalize a huge aspect of it," he said.

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Scheer says Trans Mountain deal unnecessary

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Consevative Leader Andrew Scheer criticizes the governments decision to buy the Trans Mountain pipeline from Kinder Morgan. 0:53

NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh called it a "bad deal that will solve nothing." Pushing ahead with the pipeline betrays the government's promise to ease reliance on fossil fuels, he said.

"Climate change leaders don't spend $4.5 billion dollars on pipelines," he said. "We need a government with a vision that takes our future seriously."

The pipeline expansion project has faced intense opposition from the B.C. government, environmental activists and some Indigenous groups.

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Carr says Canadians can have a healthy planet and a strong economy

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Natural Resources Minister Jim Carr says that the Trans Mountain pipeline purchase can help Canadians achieve a clean environment and good jobs. 1:48

Carr said the plan does not sacrifice the environment for economic benefits.

"Canadians want both and we can have both," he said.

'Great economic benefits'

Kinder Morgan issued a statement that says the deal represents the best way forward for shareholders and Canadians.

"The outcome we have reached represents the best opportunity to complete Trans Mountain Expansion Project and thereby realize the great national economic benefits promised by that project," said chairman and CEO Steve Kean.

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"Our Canadian employees and contractors have worked very hard to advance the project to this critical stage, and they will now resume work in executing this important Canadian project."

Green Party Leader Elizabeth May, who pleaded guilty Monday to criminal contempt for protesting the pipeline, tweeted that Kinder Morgan is "laughing all the way to the bank."

She called it a bad public policy decision that future generations will regret.

"Historically, I'm quite certain, this will go down as an epic financial, economic boondoggle that future students of political science will say, 'Why on earth did they do that? That made no sense,'" she said.

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Green Party Leader Elizabeth May says the decision to buy the Trans Mountain pipeline will go down in history as one of Canada's greatest epic, economical boondoggles. 1:13

Alberta Premier Rachel Notley called it "a major step forward for all Canadians." She believes any efforts to "harass" the project will have less effect with the federal government as the owner, because it will have Crown immunity in legal proceedings.

She said the pipeline remains a commercially viable project that will turn a profit. She conceded that governments could be on the hook if there is a spill, but said spills are becoming less frequent.

"Just like any project, there is risk. In this case, the risk is very low," she said.

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'I'm confident in recommending this to Albertans as a reasonable approach to getting this pipeline built,' says Rachel Notley. 7:39

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau took to Twitter to praise the deal.

"Today, we've taken action to create and protect jobs in Alberta and B.C., and restart construction on the TMX pipeline expansion, a vital project in the national interest," his post says.

Under the arrangement, the government will indemnify a potential buyer for additional costs caused by provincial or municipal attempts to delay or obstruct the expansion. It also promises to underwrite costs if the proponent abandons the project because of an adverse judicial decision, or because it can't be completed by a predetermined date despite "commercially reasonable efforts."

Under either of those scenarios, the government will have the option to re-purchase the pipeline before the expansion is abandoned.

Bitter dispute

Notley has been locked in a bitter dispute over the pipeline with B.C. Premier John Horgan.

Today, Horgan said a change of ownership doesn't alter his concerns about the risk of a spill that could harm the coastal environment and said he'll proceed with a legal challenge.

"The good news is I think I have a better chance of progress with a Crown corporation and a government that is responsive to people rather than a company that is only responsive to its shareholders," he told CBC in Vancouver.

In a news conference, Horgan said the dispute should have been resolved through a joint reference to the Supreme Court.

"Now we have both Ottawa and Alberta, rather than going to court to determine jurisdiction, they're making financial decisions that affect taxpayers, and they'll have to be accountable for that."

The twinning of the 1,150-kilometre-long Trans Mountain pipeline will nearly triple its capacity to an estimated 890,000 barrels a day and increase traffic off B.C.'s coast from approximately five tankers to 34 tankers a month. (CBC News)

The federal government had looked at three options for moving the project forward:

• compensating Kinder Morgan — or any other company — for financial losses caused by British Columbia's attempts to block the project;
• buying and building the expansion itself, and then selling it once the work is complete, or;
• buying the project from Kinder Morgan, then putting it on the market for investors willing to pick up the project and build it themselves.

Morneau's announcement comes just two days before a deadline that had been set by Kinder Morgan.

The company had said it needed clarity on a path forward for the project by May 31 or it would walk away from construction.

The original Trans Mountain pipeline was built in 1953. The expansion would be a twinning of the existing 1,150-kilometre pipeline between Strathcona County (near Edmonton), Alta., and Burnaby, B.C. It would add 980 kilometres of new pipeline and increase capacity from 300,000 barrels a day to 890,000 barrels a day.

According to Kinder Morgan's project website, the construction and the first 20 years of expanded operations would mean a combined government revenue of $46.7 billion, with $5.7 billion for B.C., $19.4 billion for Alberta and $21.6 billion for the rest of Canada.

With files from David Cochrane