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Judge denies unions' request to join gender-identity lawsuit, allows all others
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Date: Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 2:18 PM
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Judge denies unions' request to join gender-identity lawsuit, allows all others
Unions have other avenues to resolve this 'workplace issue,' Justice Richard Petrie says
All organizations that asked to provide evidence in the lawsuit challenging New Brunswick's gender-identity policy have been approved, except the three unions representing school psychologists, teachers and school support staff.
The lawsuit was filed by the Canadian Civil Liberties Association to challenge the legality and constitutionality of changes to Policy 713.
The changes in question require parental consent before school staff can use a child's chosen name and pronoun, if they're under 16.
In a decision made Wednesday, Justice Richard Petrie allowed the following organizations to join the suit as interveners and add evidence, with conditions:
- Local LGBTQ-support organizations Chroma NB, Alter Acadie, Imprint Youth and national group Egale Canada.
- Our Duty Canada and the Gender Dysphoria Alliance, which are advocacy groups that represent parents whose children are "captured by gender ideation," and support the parental consent rule.
- The Wabanaki Two-Spirit Alliance and Equality New Brunswick, organizations that represent the interests of Indigenous two-spirit people.
The judge heard from these three unions last week and denied their request to join the suit:
- The New Brunswick Union of Public and Private Employees representing school psychologists and social workers.
- The New Brunswick Teachers' Federation.
- The Canadian Union of Public Employees, Local 2745 representing school support staff.
In his decision, Petrie said he is denying the unions' request to join the lawsuit partly because for staff, this is a "workplace issue."
The unions said they want to argue whether the policy "forces" their members to violate the students' Charter rights, and also make arguments about how the policy affects staff's freedom of expression.
Petrie said this case is about children's rights and freedom of expression, so adding the union perspective would be "a significant and unwarranted expansion of the proceeding."
There's also a principle called "exclusive jurisdiction," in labour law, which dictates that workplace issues should be resolved by labour adjudication with few exceptions.
The unions representing teachers and school psychologists have already filed policy grievances against the changes, but they argued that the adjudicator would probably be guided by whatever decision the court makes about the policy, so they want to be part of the process.
Petrie said the union didn't give enough evidence to warrant an exception to a well-established rule.
Because they're a private interest group, with only a personal interest in the case and intending to advocate for their own members, Petrie also denied them "friend of the court" status. That status would have allowed them to provide limited arguments.
The province did not take a position against any of the interveners, except to challenge the unions.
Petrie said the province's arguments made a difference to him.
"The province's objections are valid and have influenced my exercise of discretion," he said.
Joël Michaud, the lawyer for the New Brunswick Teachers' Federation and the New Brunswick Union, said his clients haven't instructed him on whether they want to appeal the decision. He said they have six days to decide.
Conditions on interveners
Petrie imposed nine conditions on the organizations that were allowed to join the suit.
Each group will have to keep acting jointly. This means Imprint Youth and Egale, for example, wouldn't be able to file anything separately.
They are not allowed to bring up new issues to the case, duplicate the submissions, or seek costs.
They have to ask for permission before filing any motions or cross-examining any witnesses, and lawyers have to communicate with each other and co-operate so the case can be resolved as soon as possible.
In a statement, the four 2SLGBTQ-support organizations said their priority in this case is to defend young people who are impacted by this policy, "and to fight for their right to feel safe and accepted at school."
Hatim Kheir, the lawyer representing Our Duty Canada and the Gender Dysphoria Alliance, said their goal is to represent "the rights of both children and their parents."
Petrie said in his decision that it was not a "mathematical equation," but he approved Our Duty and Gender Dysphoria Alliance, in part, to provide balance against the organizations supporting 2SLGBTQ youth.
"Perhaps it amounts to some equal treatment on both sides of the expected debate on children's rights and parental interests," he said.
Our Duty Canada describes itself as an advocacy and support network for parents of children and adolescents "captured by gender ideology." The group is the Canadian chapter of United-Kingdom-based Our Duty, which provides advice for parents to "create an environment" for their children to de-transition or stop seeking gender-affirming care.
"A child who believes they are transgender knows, deep down, that they are not," the group says on its website.
"We know, as parents, that our children aren't actually the opposite sex . … We know 'transgender' is just a label and we hope they 'grow out of it' before any real harm is done."
Gender Dysphoria Alliance advocates non-medical approaches to treating gender dysphoria, and alleges the current medical agreement on gender-affirming care for minors by endocrinologist societies, pediatric medicine societies and other medical communities is "ideologically driven."
Three other organizations have asked to intervene as friends of the court and only make arguments without submitting any more evidence. Petrie said he will decide on those at a later date.
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Who are 8 interveners in the gender-identity lawsuit?
Justice Richard Petrie has approved eight interveners to provide evidence and make arguments in the Canadian Civil Liberties Association’s gender-identity lawsuit against the New Brunswick government.They include organizations both for and against the changes to Policy 713.
Province argues against school psychologist, teacher unions joining gender-identity suit
Unions want to argue policy could force them to breach students' rights, break their trust
The New Brunswick government wants to block the unions representing school psychologists, teachers and support staff from joining a lawsuit against the province's gender-identity policy for schools.
The Canadian Civil Liberties Association filed the lawsuit last fall. At issue is a policy that required school staff to get parental consent before they can use a student's chosen name and pronoun, if the student is under 16.
The civil liberties group argues the policy goes against the provincial education and human rights acts, and breaches students' charter rights.
The unions are three of nine organizations that have filed to become part of the case. They say they would be able to provide the perspective of school staff, who are required to follow the policy.
They say the policy could force them to breach children's rights by denying their request for a specific name or pronoun, and it also violates their freedom of expression.
Clarence Bennett, the lawyer representing the province, said this case is about the students' rights, not the rights of the staff. He said the unions have nothing to add to the case.
Joël Michaud spoke on behalf of the New Brunswick Union, representing school psychologists and social workers, as well as the New Brunswick Teachers' Federation. In an interview, he said union members are "caught in the middle" of this policy, and whatever that's decided in court would affect them. That's why they want a seat at the table."
"The issue will be debated. All we want is the opportunity to be there and to contribute to this debate."
Bennett argued the unions have filed grievances, and that's how they can have their voices heard. Michaud said that typically, issues would be resolved through the grievance process.
But in this case, the lawsuit is brought by someone who's not the employer or the union, so the unions' voice won't be represented unless they intervene.
Glen Gallant, the lawyer for CUPE Local 2745, which represents educational and clerical support staff, said being a school staff member comes with "a level of trust," from the students, and the policy potentially requires that they break that trust.
'There's no urgency,' province's lawyer says
The civil liberties association has been waiting for documents related to the province's decision to change Policy 713, but Bennett said in court Monday that the province is not to blame for delays in the case.
He said even though the association filed the lawsuit in September, they were "only granted public interest standing" in December. He said the association was also asking for a lot of records.
He said there's another lawsuit about the same policy filed in Moncton recently. He said the province was given a deadline in that other lawsuit, which is taking up resources.
"There's absolutely no urgency" to the civil liberties case, especially since the policy has been in place and the school year is almost over, he said.
During the hearing Monday, Justice Richard Petrie said he does see urgency.
"I see this as a priority matter," he said.
At the end of the hearing, he said he will do his best to decide on all intervener applications by May 6.
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Tuesday 12 March 2024
3 union leaders banned from N.B. legislature over noisy protest
Perhaps Sharon Teare will listen to me now but I am not betting on it for obvious reasons N'esy Pas Mr Higgs?
David Amos<david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com> | Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 2:18 PM |
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3 union leaders banned from N.B. legislature over noisy protest
Jeering during pension bill vote was ‘unacceptable,' CUPE officials told in letter
Three top public-sector union leaders are banned from the New Brunswick legislature and surrounding buildings and grounds over a noisy attempt to interrupt a vote by MLAs last December.
Steve Drost, Sandy Harding and Sharon Teare, all senior officials with the Canadian Union of Public Employees, were banned a few days after the incident.
They were in the legislature's public gallery on Dec. 12 with dozens of CUPE members for the final vote on legislation forcing their pensions into a shared-risk system, which they say is contrary to their labour contract with the province.
Members jeered loudly, all but drowning out the sound of the legislature clerk calling the names of MLAs as they voted, a clear violation of the rules for visitors.
"Your behaviour … by disrupting the proceedings of the legislative assembly by shouting and chanting has been deemed as unacceptable," the legislature's sergeant-at-arms Gilles Côté said in a letter dated Dec. 20.
Despite the noise, the vote was not disrupted. It proceeded and the legislation passed.
"I think some of our members were upset that day, and I think they were being a bit boisterous," Drost said in an interview.
"I think it's ridiculous. I think it's overreach, but one of the ways to try and deal with your opponent is forbid them from playing in the game."
According to the letter, the ban is indefinite and applies to what's known as Parliament Square, a one-block area that includes the main legislature building, two adjacent buildings used by MLAs and staff, and the grounds.
Drost is CUPE's president in New Brunswick, Harding is the union's regional director, and Teare is president of the New Brunswick Council of Nursing Home Unions, a CUPE union.
All three have been frequent visitors to the legislature during disputes with the province.
The clerk of the legislature, Shayne Davies, refused to say in an email whether they can do anything to have it lifted.
"We have no comment," he said.
Speaker Bill Oliver has the authority to restrict access to the building and grounds on his own.
The letter to the CUPE leaders says the legislature "has a responsibility to provide a safe and secure environment for all members, staff and visitors to the legislative precincts without disruptions or interference."
Green MLA and house leader Kevin Arseneau said the ban was not discussed or approved by the all-party legislative administration committee, which he sits on and which meets in secret.
Arseneau, who was himself banned from the legislature as a young agricultural activist in 2015, said he opposed the CUPE decision.
Green
MLA and house leader Kevin Arseneau, himself banned from the
legislature as a young agricultural activist in 2015, said, 'What tools
are actually left to everyday citizens and to opposition, to fight this
kind of bill?' (Ed Hunter/CBC)
The government didn't win a majority of the popular vote in the last election and makes top-down decisions in the Premier's Office, Arseneau said.
"What tools are actually left to everyday citizens and to opposition, to fight this kind of bill?" he said.
"Even though it was very loud, I think that was a lot of people not knowing what else to do to be heard."
Arseneau's ban was lifted a year later when he became president of the Acadian Society of New Brunswick. The then-Speaker said he was making an exception because Arseneau represented a large segment of the province's population.
Exploring legal options
Drost said CUPE's lawyers are examining whether they have a legal route to challenge the ban.
In general, courts in Canada have ruled that a legislature's internal proceedings aren't subject to review by judges.
CUPE is already in court asking for the pension legislation to be struck down as an unconstitutional violation of their collective bargaining rights.
The bill forced the union into an arbitration process with only one possible outcome: a shift of their pensions into the same shared-risk regime other provincial bargaining units began adopting in 2014.
The CUPE locals argue that their contract, signed in 2021, explicitly says their previous pension plan would remain in place for the duration of the agreement, despite a side deal to look at the pension issue.
Last fall, Premier Blaine Higgs said CUPE was stalling on that, and the legislation was needed to resolve the issue.
CUPE's legal challenge, including an application for an interim injunction, was due to be heard this week. But last week the judge in the case granted the province's request to delay the case until August.
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"Drost said CUPE's lawyers are examining whether they have a legal route to challenge the ban."
Yea right perhaps he should talk to me
Reply to David Amos
David Amos
Kevin Arseneau should not deny that he was banned in 2004 because he was hollering from the gallery. Then he was permitted back in once became the boss of the SANB
David Amos
They all laughed at me when I was illegally barred 20 years ago
What time are egging, er, picking up Pierre at the airport?
Talk about a lack of class shown by people in a position of authority.
Amen
Wait until the school kids show up; that will be interesting.
Rusty Shackleford
Reply to MR Cain
Judging by your presence, I'd say they're here.
David Amos
Reply to Rusty Shackleford
Well put
Jake Newman
would these unions be ok if people showed up at their meetings and acted like that?
MR Cain
Reply to Jake Newman
If our representatives don't represent the people's interests, they have every right to express their displeasure.
Rusty Shackleford
Reply to MR Cain
No they don't. They have no right to interrupt the legislative process. As evidenced by this ruling. They can cry elsewhere.
Henri Bianchi
Reply to MR Cain
You have every right to express your displeasure - at the ballot box.
You have no right to disrupt.
MR Cain
Reply to Henri Bianchi
I have every right, It is a public building on unceded land. We have elected representatives to represent our concerns. They have been denied due process.
David Amos
Reply to Henri Bianchi
I concur
Wilbur Ross
Reply to Jake Newman
Reply to Rusty Shackleford
Reply to MR Cain
As for your "unceded land" argument - that and $1.99 will get you a double-double at the courthouse coffee ship.
Reply to Henri Bianchi
Reply to MR Cain
You do not even have the legal right to be in the gallery - any member can clear the gallery at any time by advising the speaker of the presence of "strangers"
Reply to Henri Bianchi
ralph jacobs
There is not much difference between a noisy protest and a riot. If it disrupts others it is wrong.
MR Cain
The whole point of the protest is to have your voices heard. Would you prefer truck horns all day?
Rusty Shackleford
Keep drinking the union koolaid, lad.
David Amos
Reply to Rusty Shackleford
Trust that he never will
Jackie Barrett
New Brunswick Government is growing more and more corrupt as they are
now banning union leaders and members from legislative proceedings.
Premier Higgs has already done enough damage to New Brunswick as a result of not using their massive annual budget surpluses to give their employees fair pay increases, fix some highways in bad condition like TCH 16 which connects the province to Prince Edward Island, failure to give adequate cost of living allowances, make the dikes important interprovincial border areas like Chignecto Isthmus
separating New Brunswick from Nova Scotia, and now they are kicking out union leaders and its members for jeering unpopular changes to pension laws.
With New Brunswick heading for a provincial elections later this year, if Blaine Higgs and the Progressive Conservatives want to remain in power, they have to start listening to its people more.
Don Corey
Reply to Jackie Barrett
The Chignecto Isthmus clearly falls under federal jurisdiction.
All the high cost of living issues are easily traced back to actions (or lack thereof) of the federal government.
Provincial government employees receive excellent wage and benefit plans, despite your claim otherwise.
Union protestors are expected to follow the rules of the legislature, just like everyone else. Why do you think they're entitled to special treatment?
MR Cain
Reply to Jackie Barrett
Donald Bowser, an international expert on political corruption, says he is "shocked to discover that there is less transparency in New Brunswick than in Kurdistan, Guatemala or Sierra Leone..."
David Amos
Reply to Don Corey
Good question
Chuck Gendron
Good these CUPE heads have no respect of how our system works.
Allan Marven
Reply to Chuck Gendron
Our?
Al Clark
Reply to Allan Marven
Which we is this?
Al Clark
Reply to Allan Marven
Sorry marv. Was aiming at Chuck...
Chuck Gendron
Reply to Allan Marven
The public and voters
Jackie Barrett
Reply to Chuck Gendron
Won't long with Blaine Higgs and the Progressive Conservatives lose, and Susan Holt and the Liberals form the next government after the 2024 Provincial Elections.
That will "Truly Make New Brunswick Great Again".
MR Cain
Reply to Chuck Gendron
"Our" system is not working.
David Amos
Reply to Allan Marven
Ditto
Allan Marven
If you don't eat your meat , you can't have any pudding!
David Amos
Reply to Allan Marven
The laddy likens himself a poet
Vladamir Smirnoff
Hopefully they don’t get life in prison:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/online-harms-bill-margaret-atwood-1.7141165
Reply to Vladamir Smirnoff
Now thats funny
Lynette Browne
Bad beahviour seems hard to contain nowadays.
Allan Marven
Reply to Lynette Browne
Yes, the voters have to wait till the next election to deal with it. 4
Lynette Browne.
Reply to Allan Marven
Regardless, disruptive behaviour is not appropriate, especially in the leg.
Allan Marven
Reply to Lynette Browne
Get used to it, nice guy doesn't work. Never did.
Jackie Barrett
Reply to Lynette Browne
Maybe if provincial governments start listening to the will of their people, they wouldn't have public disruptions in legislative galleries, particularly in New Brunswick with pension reform and Newfoundland and Labrador with its crab fishing disputes.
MR Cain
Reply to Allan Marven
It is the right of the public to attend and have their voices heard. Our elected representatives are excluded from the decision-making process.
David Amos
Reply to Allan Marven
I resemble that remark
Joseph Godin
Obviously Drost does not agree that rules apply to him as well as CUPE members. Once again, CUPE arrogance above New Brunswick taxpayers.
Enough of Drost and CUPE! Union buster??? At times like this, yes, got that right. You have no place in NB!!!
Allan Marven
Reply to Joseph Godin
Good luck lol...
Jackie Barrett
Reply to Joseph Godin
New Brunswick has been heading downhill ever since Blaine Higgs became Premier.
If Higgs and the Progressive Conservatives want to remain in power after the 2024 Provincial Elections, they have to start listening to the people.
At the end of the day, when New Brunswick has a $1 billion annual budget surplus, and doesn't reinvest it for better roads, affordability matters, better healthcare system, affordable housing, or levy upgrading along its border with Nova Scotia, you know that something is wrong.
MR Cain
Reply to Joseph Godin
It is called collective bargaining. It only works when both sides agree to work for the good of New Brunswick. Higgs has failed.
David Amos
Reply to Joseph Godin
CUPE arrogance is an understatement
michael levesque
its interesting how Mr Drost thinks that all New Brunswick Tax Payers should be responsible to fund the pensions of Union members. Union members should put their big boy pants on and join the shared risk program which other Government employee have done. Mr Drost some New Brunswickers have no pension and should not fund those lucky enough to have a Government job.
Don Corey
Reply to michael levesque
Drost, like most others, doesn't even understand that the shared risk plans are still very much a defined-benefit plan; but with the "shared risk" component. They are still very costly plans (paid for by NB
taxpayers) and 99% of private sector workers would love to be in one.
They're not, because employers just can't afford them.
MR Cain
Reply to michael levesque
The tax payer pays their wages and benefits; Higgs has already legislated the shared risk pension plan.
MR Cain
Reply to michael levesque
Lucky? They are hired on the basis of merit; they earned the job.
David Amos
Reply to Don Corey
I believe folks should be responsible for their own pension plan
rayma allaby
so is higgsy going in for some union busting ....i don't like higgsy will never like higgsy and he needs to be gone next provincial election. i don't believe he would be premier right now if he hadn't lied about the true story of covid .
Lou Bell
Reply to rayma allaby
Higgs gpt his info from Health Canada , which operates under the Federal Liberals ! Most everyone is aware of that .
Don Corey
Reply to rayma allaby
He's certainly not the only political leader in Canada to lie about covid. Look no further than the PM to find the #1 culprit.
rayma allaby
Reply to Don Corey
oh trudeau got money in to the pockets of canadians via the gst to help with the high cost of items...he told us we should all be wearing a mask, i wore mine, he told us to get vaccinated i did,,, far as i am
concerned he did not lie...now perhaps where you are you feel he did lie so i hope you sent back all the stimulus help we all were given .
Allan Marven
Reply to Lou Bell
Hey loo, you were on the side of the union potato chip makers las week, what happened?
David Amos
Reply to Allan Marven
Good question
James van der Brug
hmm the whiners are concerned about other whiners COPE
David Amos
Reply to James van der Brug
Well put
Alison Jackson
Grampy inches closer to an all out autocracy.
David Amos
Reply to Alison Jackson
C;est Vrai
Deborah Reddon
I think back 2 or 3 years to when CUPE was holding a news conference with respect to strike action for workers who had not received a pay raise in four years. Suddenly, across the TV screen waltzes Blaine
Higgs, acting like a bully, who hijacked the event. Seems Mr. HIggs likes to dish it out but takes offense when he fails to negotiate as required by law. Shame Shame.
Dan Lee
Reply to Deborah Reddon
he needed to save the bonuses at vestcor
Lou Bell
Reply to Deborah Reddon
Do you also remember Higgs had tens of union contracts to negotiate , and yet he got them all done , other than this one contract , that's costing NB taxpayers hundreds of millions every 10 years or so ? And as with all other unions who transferred to the much better " defined pension " plan , NB taxpayers are not having to top them up every few years . And , although the left press has failed to actually ask the heads of those unions their feelings on the plans , others have asked and gotten very positive answers , including that the funds are actually highly funded for decades into the future , and that the COL they received is much higher than in the " shared risk " plan . And most important , it doesn't cost the NB taxpayer one extra penny !
David Amos
Reply to Dan Lee
Bingo
Zoe Richmond
The entire country has been under much stress. Remember to think before you jeer!
David Amos
Reply to Zoe Richmond
Methinks many would agree that its way past high time to jeer N'esy Pas?
Don Corey
"I think some of our members were upset that day, and I think they were being a bit boisterous," Drost said in an interview.
And Drost was right there leading the charge. As the CUPE president of NB, it would appear that (not surprisingly) he felt he had no responsibility to control the actions of his members.
Drost fits the mold (looks, talks, acts) like many of the militant union leaders back in the 70's, 80's and early 90's. He doesn't seem to have accepted the reality that such behaviour wasn't all that effective back then, and doesn't work at all today.
But he still gets a salary and benefits that all the CUPE members paying him can only dream of.
Lou Bell
Reply to Don Corey
As does the head of the Medical Society and Nurses Union . Made it into personal agenda's , nothing more . Promises that would cost NB taxpayers well into the hundreds of millions over the next few years . The same taxpayers of which 75 % have no pensions at all , and yet are expected to put hundreds of millions into the pensions of our public employees .
Don Corey
Reply to Lou Bell
This site has been quite effective in (falsely) convincing readers that the shared risk plans are terrible, but they're actually still a very generous defined benefit plan (never mentioned here!!!); just with a shared-risk component. They certainly are still very costly to NB taxpayers.
David Amos
Reply to Don Corey
Amen
Dianne MacPherson
FINALLY.
This Province may have its problems but many
of them have been accelerated by the antics
of Union Bosses who played to the weaknesses
of the Opposition Party Leadership.
Don Corey
Reply to Dianne MacPherson
True.
Deborah Reddon
Reply to Dianne MacPherson
It's a sad day for democracy. Mr. Higgs brought this on himself by forcing without discussion a major change to the contractual obligations he is required to abide by.
Dan Lee
Reply to Deborah Reddon
dont come here with the truth......
David Amos
Reply to Don Corey
Oh So True
Don Corey
"Arseneau, who was himself banned from the legislature as a young agricultural activist in 2015, said he opposed the CUPE decision".
Nothing surprising here from a left wing activist who has been banned a couple times from the legislature, strongly supports all unions and disagrees with everything done or said by either the PC's or Liberals.
David Amos
Reply to Don Corey
I heard lots of stories about that dude
Bobby Richards
The premier likes to govern by emotion.
Lou Bell
Reply to Bobby Richards
He likes to govern with common sense . Topping up the pensions of public employees who themselves continue to underfund and expect NB taxpayers to pay hundreds of millions to top up every 10 years is
ridiculaous . Funny how the left has never been asked if they are , or are not , in favour of the pension change by our publicly owned media isn't it ? Are you in favour of paying those topups ?
Don Corey
Reply to Bobby Richards
On the contrary, it's obvious that the union leaders were way too zealous with their actions. Too bad they don't like the consequences, but at least they weren't stomped by horses.
David Amos
Reply to Bobby Richards
I second that emotion
Matt Steele
Sometimes when a child chooses to scream , and throw a temper tantrum because they can't get their own way all the time , they have to be given a time out....and that is pretty much what happened in this
situation . Maybe next time , they will be more thoughtful of their actions .
Dan Lee
Reply to Matt Steele
if the parents starve their children they have every right to scream
Lou Bell
Reply to Dan Lee
Really ? I've seen the comments you have stated about our public service employees .
Bobby Richards
Reply to Matt Steele
They were definitely breaking the rules and deserved something much like a child having a temper tantrum. The only difference is that you don't give a child a timeout "indefinitely".
Higgs needs to realize that these types of punishments and lessons that worked in the corporate world of Irving do not apply when dealing with the public. These tactics will probably backfire and wind the
protestors up even more tightly. This is what happens when the premier acts on emotion.
Deborah Reddon
Reply to Bobby Richards
Higgs needs to realize that when he takes away basic negotiating rights of Unions there will be negative reaction. Higgs is not capable of giving respect to those he must work with.
David Amos
Reply to Matt Steele
Dream on
kelly sherrard
I was sitting in the balcony of the legislature a few years ago and while the Conservatives had the floor and was discussing something and questioning the Liberals about something, the Liberals were all
sitting on the opposite side, totally ignoring every word the Conservative member was saying, so totally disrespectful. The Liberals weren't even smart enough to realize that the public was sitting in the balcony watching them. I have no doubt the union leaders were fed up with the disrespectful behavior of the MLAs from both parties totally ignoring their concerns. I think the public should have more say in what happens on the floor of the legislature and hold MLAs responsible for their behavior. This province has gone so far off the rails in holding MLAs accountable for their failure to address pertinent issues in this province. MLAs should be able to be fired by their constituents.
Rosco holt
Reply to kelly sherrard
It similar to what we have now Higgs and his party is ignoring everyone except Irving.
Don Corey
Reply to Rosco holt
Trudeau and his party are ignoring everything except the latest polls.
Ron parker
Reply to kelly sherrard
no real consequences for the bad actors.
David Amos
Reply to Don Corey
True
John Lee
So... someone was banned from a provincial legislature for being disruptive? If the NB legislature is anything like the ones in Toronto or Ottawa, how could they even tell?
David Amos
Reply to John Lee
Do you know of anyone being banned for 20 years and counting?
It’s Higgs conservatives New Brunswick , what do you expect.
Don Corey
Reply to Terry Saxton
Much better government that Canadians are getting from the current Ottawa bunch.
David Amos
Reply to Don Corey
Surely you jest
On 8/15/23, David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
> https://davidraymondamos3.
>
>
> Tuesday, 15 August 2023
> N.B. nursing home workers at rally call for better wage offer
> https://www.cbc.ca/news/
>
> N.B. nursing home workers at rally call for better wage offer
> 4,500 workers at 51 homes across province seeking $13/hour increase over 3
> years
>
> Shane Magee · CBC News · Posted: Aug 14, 2023 6:13 PM ADT
>
>
> A row of several people holding a sign saying "We are worth it"
> walking along a sidewalk. Nursing home workers walk along Mountain
> Road in Moncton's north end on Monday. (Shane Magee/CBC)
>
> Dozens of unionized nursing home workers rallied Monday in Moncton,
> saying contract talks are stalled over wages.
>
> The Canadian Union of Public Employees, which represents almost 4,600
> employees in 51 nursing homes across the province, is seeking
> increases over three years totalling $13 per hour.
>
> They say they've been offered a five-year contract with hourly
> increases that total $1.24 for most workers.
>
> "We deserve better," Sharon Teare, a resident attendant at a Saint
> John home and president of New Brunswick Council of Nursing Home
> Unions, said in a speech at the rally.
>
> The workers walked along a section of Moncton's Mountain Road to the
> constituency office of Ernie Steeves, the provincial finance minister.
>
> Various people in red scrubs hold signs with "SCFP" and statements in
> French as others in the background wave flags.Workers at the rally
> described management's proposed hourly wage increase as an insult.
> (Shane Magee/CBC)
>
> Tammy Nadeau of Saint John, who has worked in nursing homes for 40
> years, was among those who attended the rally.
>
> Nadeau said workers have accepted contracts in the past that haven't
> kept up with the cost of living.
>
> "We've taken pay cuts and now we've taken it to the point where we
> need the money that we're asking for here today," Nadeau, who also
> serves on the executive of the council of nursing home unions, said in
> an interview.
>
> Nadeau and Teare said nursing home workers were hailed as heroes
> during the pandemic and expected a better offer.
>
> "What's been offered at the table is nothing but an insult," Nadeau said.
> WATCH | Nursing home workers seek increases to cover the rising cost of
> living:
> Nursing home workers hold rally for better wages
> Duration 0:54
> Dozens of nursing home workers rallied in Moncton, calling on the
> province to make a better wage offer
>
> The workers include licensed practical nurses, resident attendants,
> laundry attendants, cooks and clerks. Wages in the contract that
> expired in October last year ranged from $18.72 to $32.85, depending
> on the job and time in the position.
>
> Contract talks have been taking place with the New Brunswick
> Association of Nursing Homes, which represents the homes. However, the
> province is involved because it funds the operations of the homes.
>
> Julie Weir, the CEO of the New Brunswick Association of Nursing Homes,
> declined to comment Monday, citing ongoing negotiations. The province
> also isn't commenting on the specifics of the contract talks.
>
> According to the union, the province's offer is a six per cent
> increase over five years. It would equate to total hourly increases
> over five years of $1.24 for many roles to $1.92 for a licensed
> practical nurse.
>
> A woman on the left holds a speaker and a placard with an image of
> Premier Blaine Higgs that says "Why stay in New Brunswick? Fair wages
> .... 'If you want that kind of wage, then Alberta's where to get it.'
> Higgs" Sharon Teare, president of the New Brunswick Council of Nursing
> Home Unions, speaks at the rally. (Shane Magee/CBC)
>
> Teare was coy when asked what comes next for the union.
>
> "If I did that, I'd give up my game plan, wouldn't I?" Teare said with a
> laugh.
>
> The rally echoed one in the same location just over four years ago. At
> the time, the workers had overwhelmingly voted in favour of a strike.
> However, the province had secured a court order that blocked the
> strike.
>
> A judge later ruled the province's essential services law that limited
> the ability of nursing home workers to strike was unconstitutional.
>
> Essential-services bill passes after boos rain down from gallery
>
> Province moves to fix law that violates right of nursing home
> workers to strike
>
> The government passed an amended version of the law in late 2019. It
> created a new process for designating essential employees who would
> remain on duty during a strike and added a binding arbitration
> process.
>
> While the union had suggested it may challenge the new version of the
> law, it has yet to do so.
>
> In the aftermath, as the COVID-19 pandemic was underway, the sides
> reached a new agreement. That contract expired in October last year.
> ABOUT THE AUTHOR
>
> Shane Magee
>
> Reporter
>
> Shane Magee is a Moncton-based reporter for CBC. He can be reached at
> shane.magee@cbc.ca.
>
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> 14 Comments
>
>
>
> David Amos
> "Teare was coy when asked what comes next for the union. "If I did
> that, I'd give up my game plan, wouldn't I?" Teare said with a laugh."
>
> Of that I have no doubt I recalling talking to her years ago have
> laughed at her antics ever since
>
>
> David Amos
> Anybody care how little the non unionized workers are being paid?
>
>
> michael levesque
> Reply to David Amos
> i know its a disgrace!!
>
> YO Mr Jones do ya think Higgy or Stevey Boy Murphy or everybody's evil
> blogging buddy Chucky Lelanc will explain just one of my old emails to
> the latest CUPE Bosses?
>
> David Amos
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2021 01:18:15 -0300
> Subject: YO Mr Jones do ya think Higgy or Stevey Boy Murphy or
> everbody's evil blogging buddy Chucky Lelanc will explain just one of
> my old emails to the latest CUPE Bosses?
> To: "Robert. Jones" <Robert.Jones@cbc.ca>, Stephendrost1418@gmail.com,
> "Ross.Wetmore" <Ross.Wetmore@gnb.ca>, "robert.mckee"
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> Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>, "blaine.higgs"
> < blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>, pchamp@champlaw.ca, "hugh.flemming"
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>
> https://nb.cupe.ca/2021/04/24/
>
> Steve Drost Elected President of CUPE NB
>
> This Saturday April 24 2021, Steve Drost has been elected for a 2-year
> term as provincial president of the New Brunswick Division of the
> Canadian Union of Public Employees (CUPE NB). More than 200 delegates,
> representing CUPE locals from across the province, elected Drost to
> lead New Brunswick’s largest union. The vote was conducted Saturday
> afternoon at CUPE NB’s 58th annual convention, which took place
> virtually, Friday and Saturday.
>
> “I will do my best each and every day for all our members, to make
> sure we are truly listening and making CUPE NB a grassroots, member
> driven Division. I am honoured to be your president,” said Drost to
> delegates. Drost, who has been vice-president of CUPE NB for the last
> two years, takes the place of President Brien Watson.
>
> “I have been working for over 44 years in the education sector, so I
> am looking forward for retirement,” said Brien Watson. “I wish Steve
> all the best in his new role,” said Watson.
>
> “It’s an honour to follow in the foots steps of Brother Watson, who
> diligently served his 2-year term as Division President. He picked up
> the “Bargaining Forward” campaign, and took head-on the enormous
> curveball that is COVID-19,” said Drost.
>
> Sharon Teare, herself a Personal Care worker at St John & St Stephen
> Home in Saint John and President of the NB Council of Nursing Home
> Unions, has been elected for a one-year term as CUPE NB’s First
> Vice-President. Drost and Teare will join Kim Copp on the CUPE NB
> inner executive. Copp is currently the CUPE NB Secretary Treasurer and
> works as an LPN at the Forestdale Home in Riverside Albert.
>
> “With those two great leaders by my side, we have what it takes to
> mount the challenge against Blaine Higgs’s “Zeros for our Heroes” wage
> freeze plans and his anti-worker politics,” said Drost.
>
> Drost has been president of CUPE Local 1418, Rehabilitation and
> Therapy since 2013. He began his career as a practising social worker
> in 1988. At present he is a Clinical 3 Social Worker and has been
> practising front line Social Work in Child Welfare his entire career.
>
> “Brother Drost is a dedicated activist. I’m confident our Division and
> the labour movement will grow even stronger under his leadership,”
> said Brien Watson.
>
>
>
> http://
>
>
> Tuesday, 2 November 2021
> Steve Drost, CUPE NB Presiden is asked by Blogger about Locked Out Worke...
>
>
> Posted by Charles Leblanc at 7:29 pm
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
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> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2021 22:39:40 +0000
> Subject: RE: Higgy lets the cat out of the bag and reveals that he is
> still messing with other people's pensions for the benefit of his
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> Wednesday, 25 September 2019
> Premier promises nursing home workers a new wage proposal they won't like
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> Premier promises nursing home workers a new wage proposal they won't like
> Offer will be presented this week or next and will be 'final,' premier says
> CBC · Posted: Sep 24, 2019 3:40 PM AT
>
>
> Perhaps Sharon Teare will listen to me but I am not betting on it for
> obvious reasons N'es Pas Mr Higgs?
>
> David Amos
> <motomaniac333@gmail.com> Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 7:11 PM
> To: "tyler.campbell" <tyler.campbell@gnb.ca>, "Dorothy.Shephard"
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>
> On 3/17/19, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Sharon Teare - President
>> 506-609-1633
>> nbcnhu-csfsnb@bellaliant.net
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>> Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2019 06:46:05 -0400
>> Subject: The RCMP, the CBC, Paul Harpelle and David Coon should
>> understand why Rick DeSaulniers the PANB union dude's name reminds me
>> of other people N'esy Pas Chucky Leblanc?
>> To: "Jacques.Poitras" <Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>, "darrow.macintyre"
>> <darrow.macintyre@cbc.ca>, oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, andre
>> <andre@jafaust.com>, "blaine.higgs" <blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>,
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>> "dominic.leblanc" <dominic.leblanc@parl.gc.ca>, "Dominic.Cardy"
>> <Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca>, "David.Coon" <David.Coon@gnb.ca>, "Mitton,
>> Megan (LEG)" <megan.mitton@gnb.ca>, "Arseneau, Kevin (LEG)"
>> <Kevin.A.Arseneau@gnb.ca>, "Kevin.leahy" <Kevin.leahy@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>,
>> "kris.austin" <kris.austin@gnb.ca>, Rick DeSaulniers
>> <sweetbends@gmail.com>, "michelle.conroy" <michelle.conroy@gnb.ca>,
>> Newsroom <Newsroom@globeandmail.com>, "Jody.Wilson-Raybould"
>> <Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc.
>> <robert.mckee@gnb.ca>, "hugh.flemming" <hugh.flemming@gnb.ca>,
>> "greg.byrne" <greg.byrne@gnb.ca>, "Jack.Keir" <Jack.Keir@gnb.ca>,
>> "Gilles.Blinn" <Gilles.Blinn@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Gilles.Cote"
>> <Gilles.Cote@gnb.ca>, "dan. bussieres" <dan.bussieres@gnb.ca>,
>> "David.Lametti" <David.Lametti@parl.gc.ca>, "Nathalie.Drouin"
>> <Nathalie.Drouin@justice.gc.ca
>> <kathleen.roussel@ppsc-sppc.
>> <Michael.Wernick@pco-bcp.gc.ca
>> <Katie.Telford@pmo-cpm.gc.ca>, "Hon.Dominic.LeBlanc"
>> <Hon.Dominic.LeBlanc@canada.ca
>> <hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca>, "Frank.McKenna" <Frank.McKenna@td.com>,
>> "larry.campbell" <larry.campbell@sen.parl.gc.ca
>> <Larry.Tremblay@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>> "sylvie.gadoury" <sylvie.gadoury@radio-canada.
>> <pablo.rodriguez@parl.gc.ca>, "Catherine.Tait"
>> <Catherine.Tait@cbc.ca>, "Catherine.Harrop" <Catherine.Harrop@cbc.ca>,
>> "Catherine.McKenna" <Catherine.McKenna@parl.gc.ca>
>> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
>> <rick.desaulniers@gnb.ca>, "Paul.Harpelle" <Paul.Harpelle@gnb.ca>,
>> "andrew.scheer" <andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca>, "Mark.Blakely"
>> <Mark.Blakely@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "maxime.bernier"
>> <maxime.bernier@parl.gc.ca>
>>
>> Even you must recall Nathalie Des Rosiers of the CCLA and Special
>> Agent Richard Deslauriers of the FBI EH Chucky?
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?
>>
>> People's Alliance Fredericton-York MLA Rick Desaulniers meets
>> Blogger!!!!!
>> 69 views
>> Charles Leblanc
>> Published on Oct 23, 2018
>>
>>
>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/
>>
>> David Coon suggests nursing home workers not fear essential-service
>> designation
>> Social Sharing
>>
>> Being deemed essential won't hurt union's bargaining power, Green leader
>> says
>> Hadeel Ibrahim · CBC News · Posted: Mar 15, 2019 7:00 AM AT
>>
>> "People's Alliance MLA Rick DeSaulniers said it's "hard not to say"
>> nursing home workers are essential, but he believes the issue can be
>> resolved with the proper communication. He said the province dropped
>> the ball by not being involved in the discussions from the beginning.
>>
>> "If they don't offer [arbitration] and then they end up getting a
>> court ruling that says these workers are essential, that just turns a
>> collective bargaining process into collective begging," DeSaulniers
>> said"
>>
>> From: Harpelle, Paul (ENB)
>> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 4:22 PM
>> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>> Subject: Registration as an Independant Candidate
>>
>> Mr. Amos
>>
>> I have passed your application on to my co-worker who takes care of
>> the registry.
>>
>> To make this official, you must still indicate and provide the second
>> part of the form within 20 days providing the name(s) of your official
>> agent and official representative.
>>
>> They can be the same person.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Paul Harpelle
>>
>> Director of Communications & Community Outreach
>>
>> Directeur des communications et Relations communautaires
>>
>> Elections NB
>>
>> Tel/tél 506-444-2105
>>
>> Your Vote Counts- Votre vote compte
>>
>> http://thedavidamosrant.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Amos" <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>> To: <Glenn.Greenwald@guardian.co.
>> "birgittaj" <birgittaj@althingi.is>; "ed.pilkington"
>> <ed.pilkington@guardian.co.uk>
>> <steven.blaney@parl.gc.ca>; "roger.l.brown"
>> <roger.l.brown@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
>> Cc: "David Amos" <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>> <DANIEL.POULIN@CHRC-CCDP.CA>; <abromberg@bnaibrith.ca>;
>> <habrams@pacificcoast.net>; "ndesrosiers" <ndesrosiers@ccla.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 10:54 PM
>> Subject: Snowden ain't got nothing on mean old me when it comes to
>> dealing with corrupt Feds and keeping one's Integrity as well
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 02:40:18 -0300
>> Subject: YO FBI Special Agent Richard Deslauriers I just called your
>> office and the nasty Yankee played dumb as usual
>> To: boston@ic.fbi.gov, washington.field@ic.fbi.gov, "bob.paulson"
>> <bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Kevin.leahy"
>> <Kevin.leahy@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, Brian.Kelly@usdoj.gov,
>> us.marshals@usdoj.gov, Fred.Wyshak@usdoj.gov, jcarney
>> <jcarney@carneybassil.com>, bbachrach@bachrachlaw.net
>> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>> <birgittaj@althingi.is>, shmurphy@globe.com, Red Ice Creations
>> <redicecreations@gmail.com>
>>
>> Clearly I am not joking
>>
>> Just Dave
>> By Location Visit Detail
>> Visit 19,571
>> Domain Name (Unknown)
>> IP Address 153.31.113.# (FBI Criminal Justice Information Systems)
>> ISP FBI Criminal Justice Information Systems
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>> Country : United States (Facts)
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>> City : Clarksburg
>> Lat/Long : 39.2664, -80.3097 (Map)
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>> .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; MS-RTC
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>> Visit Number 19,571
>>
>> On 6/15/13, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> FBI Boston
>>> One Center Plaza
>>> Suite 600
>>> Boston, MA 02108
>>> Phone: (617) 742-5533
>>> Fax: (617) 223-6327
>>> E-mail: Boston@ic.fbi.gov
>>>
>>> Hours
>>> Although we operate 24 hours a day, seven days a week, our normal
>>> "walk-in" business hours are from 8:15 a.m. to 5:00 p.m., Monday
>>> through Friday. If you need to speak with a FBI representative at any
>>> time other than during normal business hours, please telephone our
>>> office at (617) 742-5533.
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:20:20 -0300
>>> Subject: Yo Fred Wyshak and Brian Kelly your buddy Whitey's trial is
>>> finally underway now correct? What the hell do I do with the wiretap
>>> tapes Sell them on Ebay?
>>> To: Brian.Kelly@usdoj.gov, us.marshals@usdoj.gov,
>>> Fred.Wyshak@usdoj.gov, jcarney <jcarney@carneybassil.com>,
>>> bbachrach@bachrachlaw.net, michael wolfheart
>>> <wolfheartlodge@live.com>, jonathan.albano@bingham.com,
>>> shmurphy@globe.com, mvalencia@globe.com
>>> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>> <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, PATRICK.MURPHY@dhs.gov, rounappletree@aol.com
>>>
>>>
>> http://www.bostonglobe.com/
>>>
>>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/
>>>
>>> As the CBC etc yap about Yankee wiretaps and whistleblowers I must ask
>>> them the obvious question AIN'T THEY FORGETTING SOMETHING????
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?
>>>
>>> What the hell does the media think my Yankee lawyer served upon the
>>> USDOJ right after I ran for and seat in the 39th Parliament baseball
>>> cards?
>>>
>>> http://archive.org/details/
>>>
>>> http://davidamos.blogspot.ca/
>>>
>>> http://www.archive.org/
>>>
>>> http://archive.org/details/
>>>
>>> FEDERAL EXPRES February 7, 2006
>>> Senator Arlen Specter
>>> United States Senate
>>> Committee on the Judiciary
>>> 224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
>>> Washington, DC 20510
>>>
>>> Dear Mr. Specter:
>>>
>>> I have been asked to forward the enclosed tapes to you from a man
>>> named, David Amos, a Canadian citizen, in connection with the matters
>>> raised in the attached letter.
>>>
>>> Mr. Amos has represented to me that these are illegal FBI wire tap
>>> tapes.
>>>
>>> I believe Mr. Amos has been in contact with you about this previously.
>>>
>>> Very truly yours,
>>> Barry A. Bachrach
>>> Direct telephone: (508) 926-3403
>>> Direct facsimile: (508) 929-3003
>>> Email: bbachrach@bowditch.com
>>
>
Ontario lawyer criticizes 'Rouleau Report,' says it's an 'influential' document but non-binding
The controversial and widely detested Public Order Emergency Commission (POEC) report became public nearly two weeks ago, yet the 'flawed' 2,000-page report is not legally binding for future public order emergencies, says one lawyer.
According to Section 17(1) of the Emergencies Act, Ottawa can exact "temporary special measures" when it believes a public order emergency exists on "reasonable grounds" — a phrase that Kheir said has meaning in law.
"It refers to the probability that something is true," said Kheir, adding the federal government believed the convoy posed "threats to the security of Canada...so serious as to be a national emergency."
A national emergency constitutes that which could not be effectively dealt with under any law in Canada as an "urgent and critical situation of a temporary nature."
The feds articulated that the convoy impacted residents through the shouting of pro-western Canadian rhetoric, honking, and the fumes of the convoy trucks.
They also referenced border blockades, the impact on the economy, and the risk of conflict with counter-protesters as justification for declaring the demonstrations as a "national emergency."
The "Rouleau Report'' claimed that online threats against officials, the risk of violence from lone wolf actors, "concerning" memes from Diagolon, and weapons at the Coutts, Alberta blockade with supposed Diagolon paraphernalia constituted threats to national security.
Under the Act, law enforcement had the legal capacity to establish exclusion zones around the convoy and could kick people out without identifying them as protestors. It also permitted banks to freeze the bank accounts of convoy participants and supporters.
A reporter asked on February 17 whether freezing bank accounts was appropriate for the government.
Freeland responded that the financial measures were "a powerful tool to disincentivize protest … and shrink the size of the [convoy]."
She cited their "overriding objective" to protect Canadians and admitted that her government has lessons to learn.
"There was credible and compelling evidence supporting both a subjective and objectively reasonable belief in the existence of a public order emergency," reads the POEC report.
"I have concluded that the Cabinet was reasonably concerned that the situation it was facing was worsening and at a risk of becoming dangerous and unmanageable," said Rouleau.
"The standard of reasonable grounds to believe does not require certainty."
On Friday, Kheir highlighted discrepancies between how Ottawa perceived a national security threat and as defined by Canadian Security Intelligence Service Act.
According to the federal spy agency, threats to national security constituted espionage or sabotage, foreign-influenced activities, acts of serious violence, or an attempt to overthrow the government.
"Prime Minister Justin Trudeau invoked the Emergencies Act on the alleged threat or use of acts of violence [to achieve] a political, religious, or ideological objective," said Kheir.
Trudeau claimed that "lawful protests embraced lawlessness," citing several border blockades and the Ottawa occupation.
He said the risk of "ideologically motivated extremism" posed a "volatile, out of control" threat to Canadians.
NDP leader Jagmeet Singh also claimed the convoy wanted to overthrow the federal government in a "fascist way."
On February 17, the prime minister walked back his divisive rhetoric towards peaceful protesters, stating he wished he had worded it differently. He also admitted that most protestors participated because they were "hurting" by punitive COVID measures.
"Under the CSIS Act, the federal government did not want an investigation into the invocation of the Emergencies Act as CSIS claimed they did not meet the threshold," said Kheir.
Ultimately, Cabinet viewed it differently than CSIS, but he added that the CSIS Act has a legal precedent, whereas the Emergencies Act does not.
OPP Superintendent Pat Morris told Rouleau during the POEC Inquiry that he found the lack of violence "shocking" at the protests and claimed that the media misreported things that exacerbated the situation. However, Rouleau disagreed and valued the opinion of others over Morris.
"I disagree with his assessment and accept the evidence from several witnesses that there was violence," said Rouleau.
"I do not consider the factual basis for it overwhelming," he said, adding it met reasonable grounds though "lacking certainty."
Ottawa's Interim police chief Steve Bell responded to a question from lawyer Brendan Miller, asking what violence occurred in Ottawa.
Bell said the protests did not meet the Criminal Code definition of violence, citing that people "felt [the violence] of excessive horns blaring."
Kheir added Friday that the only evidence of violence during the Ottawa protest was the violence the police committed against protestors.
Ultimately, the POEC Commissioner acknowledged that the protests were rooted in a "loss of faith in government" and "economic hardship" caused by the government's COVID response. He also said the "peaceful demonstrations" surprised him.
Though Rouleau acknowledged a "diversity" of views among the protestors, he said some still desired to commit "dangerous acts."
Still, he also admitted in the report that several media outlets spread "misinformation" about the Freedom Convoy, which the federal government did not address during its press conference.
The prime minister added: "Everyone has the right to protest peacefully," a right he claims his government will "always protect."
Rouleau admitted invoking the Emergencies Act is "regrettable," owing to several policing failures in response to the convoy that "spun out of control."
On Friday, Kheir highlighted several issues with Ottawa's handling of the convoy, including a need for more cooperation with provincial authorities and law enforcement to quell protests outside Ottawa.
"The use of the military against civilians to quell protests is permissible under the Emergencies Act, which allows the feds to overreach provincial jurisdiction and impose laws without parliamentary debate," said Kheir.
He added that invoking the National Defence Act is the "second last resort," and the Emergencies Act is the "last resort."
Rouleau said the Emergencies Act is not a "tool of convenience" but a "tool of last resort" in his report.
Trudeau also said invoking the Act was a "measure of last resort" but "necessary" to counter the risk of people "losing faith in the rule of law."
Rouleau opined that deploying the Canadian Armed Forces (CAF) "was not an appropriate solution...but [was] preferable to using emergency powers." However, he said the feds could have addressed the "breakdown of public order" under the Criminal Code or Part XI of the National Defence Act before considering the Emergencies Act.
According to Section 275 of the National Defence Act, the CAF is only to be deployed domestically "beyond the powers of the civil authorities to suppress," meaning if the convoy protestors proved overwhelming for local law enforcement and RCMP officers, then the use of armed forces would be "appropriate."
On February 17, a reporter asked the prime minister if invoking the Emergencies Act was a failure of federalism.
He responded that invoking the Act was "undesirable" but cited Rouleau had concluded the feds met the "high bar" in its implementation.
"Throughout the process, we saw that there were times when the provinces could have done things differently and could have cooperated better with the federal government," said Trudeau, admitting that the feds could have been better partners in federation with the provinces too."
On Friday, Manitoba's Justice Minister Kelvin Goertzen said the province considered the invocation of the Emergencies Act an act of government overreach.
He credited Manitoba RCMP and Winnipeg police for dispersing a border blockade in Emerson last February.
Goertzen also said convoy protestors left their encampment outside the Manitoba Legislature on February 23, 2022, after law enforcement warned protesters of arrests and charges if they didn't clear the road.
Kheir also commented that the blockades in Coutts and Windsor cleared on February 13 and 14, 2022, before Trudeau invoked the Emergencies Act, as most voluntarily left upon learning weapons had been present.
On Friday, Kheir also expressed concerns with several of the 56 recommendations outlined in the report.
If amended, Recommendation #32 would permit the government to define what constitutes a public order emergency and violence over CSIS, allowing them to determine the threshold for invoking the Emergencies Act.
"The Emergencies Act has no precedent on interpreting terms, but the advantage of incorporating the CSIS Act is that it has a precedent," said Kheir.
He supported the "narrow" CSIS definition and said it is "unfortunate" that Rouleau made the recommendation.
Kheir also criticized Ottawa for not justifying the Act from the onset.
Recommendation #40 highlights "the government delivered to the commission a comprehensive statement setting out the factual and legal basis for the declaration and measures adopted, including the view of the Minister of Justice of Canada as to whether the decision to proclaim an emergency was consistent with the purposes and provisions of the Emergencies Act."
But Khier states that "the government has client-solicitor privilege, so nobody knew the advice from the onset that would have helped make that determination."
"Therefore, lawyers didn't know what to ask during the POEC inquiry because that legal advice [by the Justice Minister] was unavailable."
Kheir said the report is "just an investigation" and "is not legally binding." But he said it "influences people with authority."
"If the courts find the invocation unjustified, it would be the winning voice because it is binding in Federal Court. If future governments invoke the Act, they must be aware of the precedent set," he said, who hopes the judicial review through April 3-5 goes differently than the POEC report.
Amid the criticism, the Ontario lawyer praised Rouleau for commenting that Canadians could reach a different conclusion to the report.
Rouleau admitted that other "reasonable and informed people" could come to different conclusions on invoking the Act.
"Thousands of people watched the proceedings … and the public has been exposed to an incredible amount of information," he said, adding that it has enabled people to inform their opinions on the Freedom Convoy and the government response to the weeks-long protests.
"That is the good thing to come out of this," said Kheir.
Trudeau lauded the commission's work as "very important," as it laid a road map for lessons to learn for future emergencies.
He said his government would take the conclusion of the POEC report seriously but did not commit to a timeline.
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