N.B. schools told not to book sex education group, minister says
Quebec-based presenter says they've received no communication from the province
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Education minister says sex ed group not welcome in New Brunswick
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Bill Hogan says high schools have been told that any presentations from the group Thirsty for the Talk are now cancelled.
Minister
of Education Bill Hogan says he's made good on the premier's promise to
ban a Quebec-based sex education group from New Brunswick.
On
Friday Blaine Higgs posted a screenshot to X, formerly Twitter, of a sex
education presentation that showed several questions about
masturbation, pornography and anal sex.
Higgs said the material
was "clearly inappropriate" and, "effective immediately," the group
wouldn't be allowed back in New Brunswick schools.
On Wednesday, Hogan said he had implemented that change, but added that he hadn't communicated directly with the group.
"We've told the high schools that any presentations from that group that have been pre-booked are cancelled," Hogan said.
"I believe that the group knows that ... I think the group knows that they're not welcome in New Brunswick."
Teresa
Norris, president of a charity called HPV Global Action, which operates
the youth sexual education resource called Thirsty for the Talk, told
CBC News on Wednesday that no one from the provincial government
had reached out to tell her anything about the ban.
Premier
Blaine Higgs shared a photo on social media of a sex education
presentation, calling the material "clearly inappropriate." (X)
She
disagrees with the premier's claim that the presentation, which was
given to Grade 9 to Grade 11 students, veers outside the provincial
curriculum.
"We're not creating something that the province
hasn't already put in place," she said previously in an interview,
noting she has been delivering that presentation in New Brunswick for
several years.
Higgs told reporters he decided to ban the group
based on a picture he saw of one slide and said he had not seen a copy
of the full presentation.
The premier did not answer a question
about why he wouldn't have a discussion with the group, but said an
investigation into the matter is underway.
Blaine
Higgs said he believes a sex education presentation to high school
students went beyond what's in the province's curriculum. (Ed Hunter/CBC)
Hogan
said the goal of the investigation is to identify what kind of vetting
happened before the group was asked to make the sex education
presentation.
"What I want to know is, who vetted it,
how they vetted it and why it was recommended to go forward in some of
the high schools," he said.
Hogan said the group was "recommended by another party," but declined to give any more details.
The minister also gave few details on the nature of the vetting process for high school presentations.
"A
presentation would be vetted before it goes before the children," he
said. "It could be the district, it could be the department, could be
the principal — it depends on what it is."
Norris said schools sign a consent form and are provided with an outline of the topics to be covered ahead of her presentation.
Opposition
leaders have accused Higgs of stirring up anger in order to collect
contact information ahead of the October provincial election, as the X
post linked to a campaign survey requiring an email to respond.
Green Party Leader David Coon said the province's treatment of the Quebec-based sex education group has been irresponsible. (Ed Hunter/CBC)
Green Party Leader David Coon called the province's treatment of the group "irresponsible."
"It seems like confusion is reigning on this matter," Coon said, speaking with reporters at the legislature.
"Clearly permission was provided, either by the school or school district, and it should be easy enough to clear up."
Paul
MacIntosh, a spokesperson for the Anglophone West School District, said
the district has received instructions from the education department to
ban the group.
The Anglophone South and North school
districts did not respond to a request for comment, while Anglophone
East declined to comment.
Over 20 years ago my wife and I were raising a couple of
great kids in the snobbiest town in Massachusetts Both of whom were at
the top of their classes. However the school had gone off the deep end
of left wing madness The poster on the walls of the halls would make
most folks shake their head in disgust. I have no doubt it was because
many lawyers judges bureaucrats and politicians including the Governor
lived in our town and MA wanted to the first State in the Union to
legalize gay marriage. When the school wanted to teach our kids French
instead of Spanish I complained bigtime.
Go Figure why I did not protest when both my Yankee kids
quit school and finished their High School credits on their own
David Amos
Reply to David Amos
What has me in a tizzy these days is what is said of my kids in this domain
David Amos
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I have no doubt Mr Outhouse enjoyed reading this spit and chew
B Johnny Kalibanos
A quebec based group to provide content and instruction? What could go wrong?
David Amos
Reply to B Johnny Kalibanos
I can't imagine
Kramer Vandelay
Keep the porn and subversive materials out of the curriculum.
David Amos
Reply to Kramer Vandelay
Let me guess who you will voting for
Kramer Vandelay
Reply to David Amos
I don't think I am asking for much.
David Amos
Reply to Kramer Vandelay I agree with you
Marcel Belanger
This whole shebang is an Outhouse rage farming to raise money circus.
He’s trying hard to pass off Higgs as the defender of parents rights.
That’s what the religious right wants and that’s what Outhouse wants to promote.
It’s not about the kids or the parents, they’re just tools to achieve power.
Eddy Geek
Reply to Marcel Belanger
ding ding ding
We have a winner!!
Eugene Peabody
Reply to Marcel Belanger
Yes that is what is going on with the
controversy around the schools, it is nothing more than a distraction
from the many failures of the Higgs and a backdoor attempt to get
uninformed people worked up and try to get their vote.
Lou Bell
Reply to Marcel Belanger
Liberals are just upset over raising little
money , previously defeated candidates running who ran for any and all
parties , and no ideas at all , much like the federal liberals .
David Amos
Reply to Marcel Belanger
Methinks you have been reading my words N'esy Pas?
Al Clark
I wonder if Higgy knows where the 100' height of land is in Shediac? Dave?
David Amos
Reply to Al Clark
Why seek my council???
Howard Otoole
Once again the Premier reacts impulsively
without careful deliberation and consideration of all the facts and
pertinent information. He has behaved this way when lashing out at the
doctor in Campbellton, in terminating Dr Dornan and the Boards of both
RHA's. In case he doesn't know, children have easy access to all sorts
of adult sites on the internet and unless you are extremely naive this
is the case currently. Proper education and age appropriate information
is more important than ever. And to his point that this not part of the
existing curriculum, considering the high rates of teenage pregnancy in
our province it is obvious that the status quo is not working. Perhaps
the existing curriculum needs to be updated,
MR Cain
Reply to Howard Otoole
In this instance he is playing politics. He does not care one iota for the people of this province.
David Amos
Reply to Howard Otoole
Some people understand the wicked game but most folks simply don't care
Donald Gallant
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Father , forgive them. They know not what they do
David Amos
Reply to Donald Gallant
Obviously they never did
Eddy Geek
Reply to Donald Gallant
You must be referring to Higgs
Meanwhile, teenagers as always, have questions
Al Clark
The rapidity with which higgs falls hook line and sinker is worrisome. Is it two parents again Bill, or just one this time?
David Amos
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Reply to Al Clark
Mr Outhouse is playing you like a fiddle
Claude Martel
Someone should tell Higgs that teenagers no
more think that storks deliver babies and many have questions they don't
want to ask their parents.Knowledge is never a handicap.
David Amos
Reply to Claude Martel
Seem that everybody underestimates teenagers these days
Ralph Linwood
Reply to David Amos
They have always been interested in sex and likely always will be.....
David Amos
Reply to Ralph Linwood
Amen
Le Wier
Why is this investigation taking so long? If
you take a look at the department of education there is only one person
listed as working in the office of health and physical education. If
that is the case there is only one employee to ask.
David Amos
Reply to Le Wier
We have to wait until the next election is history
Holley Hardin
Just as an answer to those questions asked in the photo... On Montreal's famous adult web site...."Yes"...
David Amos
Reply to Holley Hardin
You failed to answer me
Koffi Babone
Is there not several studies showing sex education reduces teen pregnancy?
Oh... I forgot, the premier does not believe in data..
David Amos
Reply to Koffi Babone
Do you???
Koffi Babone
Reply to David Amos
What? Believe in data?
David Amos
Reply to Koffi Babone
Thats the question
Eddy Geek
Reply to Koffi Babone
Not that disagrees with his out of date, pre-determined conclusions
Koffi Babone
Reply to David Amos
Yes, I constantly look at data.
David Amos
Reply to Koffi Babone
Do you believe everything you look at?
Eddy Geek
Yes, why would a sex ed presenter want to answer questions the students actually have?
Best pretend it's still 1924
David Amos
Reply to Eddy Geek
When have you heard students ask such questions?
Eddy Geek
Reply to David Amos
Ever have daughters David?
Or grandchildren?
If yes, every time we discussed the issues
Knowledge is power!
David Amos
Reply to Eddy Geek
I have two daughters and two grandchildren who are fine young ladies as well
Trust that I better not catch you discussing such things with them.
There is some power for your newfound knowledge
Kenneth Dwight
Yeah I can see why that poster would give a conservative a heart attack. too many triggers all at once.
Don't worry, if elected Faytene will stop all of it.
She'll stand up in the legislature and start speaking in tongues.
David Amos
Reply to Kenneth Dwight
Tut Tut Tut
Jarrod Yeo
After reading about the premier's indignation over this
presentation, i was expecting something very salacious....or to find out
that the children were kindergarteners. What I read was pretty tame
considering these are high school kids.
Wouldn't surprise me one bit if New Brunswick ends up
with the highest teen pregnancy rate in the country after all this.
Sweeping sex under the rug isn't the answer IMO.
David Amos
Reply to Jarrod Yeo
Nobody is sweeping it under the rug Higgy is using it to get elected again
John Gray
Id really like to know the answer on higgs. If it's
true, I have no trust in his decision making. The reporter asked if he
made the decision based on the panflit he seen without actually
reviewing the presentation entirely before making the decision. Instead
he just kept saying next question. Unfortunately it's not next question,
as a citizen I want to know if the leader of the province makes these
decisions without knowing the whole picture. Incompetent at best higgs
you need to resign
David Amos
Reply to John Gray
Dream on
Jake Newman
another good move by the conservatives.
David Amos
Reply to Jake Newman
Mr Outhouse knows his business
Eddy Geek
Reply to Jake Newman
How so?
or sarcasm?
These were questions the students actually had.
Al Clark
Reply to David Amos
denim dresses?
MR Cain
Reply to Jake Newman
Part of the plan, huh?
Holley Hardin
People over 50 shouldn't be involved in topics like this......
Jake Newman
Reply to Holley Hardin
why?
Holley Hardin
Reply to Jake Newman
Too Prudish....
John Gray
Reply to Holley Hardin
I'll disagree with you but... I disagree with
higgs decision. This group presents to grade 9 and grade 10. However I'm
pretty mad higgs made this decision without reviewing the whole
subject.
David Amos
Reply to Holley Hardin
So you say
Holley Hardin
Reply to David Amos
Amos?...why is that name familar....oh right no wonder you object to Prudish...
David Amos
Reply to Holley Hardin
Please explain real slow
Kevin Broussard
Reply to Holley Hardin
In that case 90% of the folks here would have to refrain from remarking... lol what would they do all day?
Al Clark
Reply to John Gray
Pretty sure? He freely admits it.
MR Cain
Reply to John Gray
You can find the full presentation online; nothing secret. The course can be modified to suit the age group.
David Amos
Reply to Holley Hardin
You claim to be retired Correct?
MR Cain
Reply to Holley Hardin
My mom is more progressive than these people, and she is 95 years old!
Eddy Geek
Reply to Holley Hardin
I’m well past 50 and completely disagree with
Higgs on this and have had these discussions with my kids and my wife
did with the grandkids
Eddy Geek
Reply to Eddy Geek
To be fair, we're both scientists (although I'm now retired), so talking about biology isn't an issue.
Everyone has a body, everyone has thoughts/desires and
everyone (eventually) has sex; better to get everything in the open than
pretend it doesn't exist
David Amos
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Reply to Holley Hardin
Amos communicated God's utter disdain for the hypocritical lives of His people
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Once again the Premier reacts impulsively without
careful deliberation and consideration of all the facts and pertinent
information. He has behaved this way when lashing out at the doctor in
Campbellton, in terminating Dr Dornan and the Boards of both RHA's. In
case he doesn't know, children have easy access to all sorts of adult
sites on the internet and unless you are extremely naive this is the
case currently. Proper education and age appropriate information is more
important than ever. And to his point that this not part of the
existing curriculum, considering the high rates of teenage pregnancy in
our province it is obvious that the status quo is not working. Perhaps
the existing curriculum needs to be updated,
Reply by MR Cain.
In this instance he is playing politics. He does not care one iota for the people of this province.
Reply by David Amos.
Some people understand the wicked game but most folks simply don't care
Comment by Donald Gallant.
“ Father , forgive them. They know not what they do “
Reply by David Amos.
Obviously they never did
Comment by MR Cain.
The Gleaner says that the vast majority of parents have no problem with the sex ed nor policy 713..
Comment by Al Clark.
The rapidity with which higgs falls hook line and sinker
is worrisome. Is it two parents again Bill, or just one this time?
Reply by David Amos.
Mr Outhouse is playing you like a fiddle
Comment by Claude Martel.
Someone should tell Higgs that teenagers no more think
that storks deliver babies and many have questions they don't want to
ask their parents.Knowledge is never a handicap.
Reply by David Amos.
Seem that everybody underestimates teenagers these days
Comment by Le Wier.
Why is this investigation taking so long? If you take a
look at the department of education there is only one person listed as
working in the office of health and physical education. If that is the
case there is only one employee to ask.
Reply by David Amos.
We have to wait until the next election is history
Comment by Holley Hardin.
Just as an answer to those questions asked in the photo... On Montreal's famous adult web site...."Yes"...
Reply by David Amos.
You failed to answer me
Comment by Koffi Babone.
Is there not several studies showing sex education reduces teen pregnancy?
Oh... I forgot, the premier does not believe in data..
Reply by David Amos.
Do you???
Reply by Koffi Babone.
What? Believe in data?
Reply by David Amos.
Thats the question
Comment by Eddy Geek.
Yes, why would a sex ed presenter want to answer questions the students actually have?
Best pretend it's still 1924
Reply by David Amos.
When have you heard students ask such questions?
Comment by Kenneth Dwight.
Yeah I can see why that poster would give a conservative a heart attack. too many triggers all at once.
Don't worry, if elected Faytene will stop all of it.
She'll stand up in the legislature and start speaking in tongues.
Reply by David Amos.
Tut Tut Tut
Comment by David Amos.
Surprise Surprise Surprise
Comment by Jarrod Yeo.
After reading about the premier's indignation over this
presentation, i was expecting something very salacious....or to find out
that the children were kindergarteners. What I read was pretty tame
considering these are high school kids.
Wouldn't surprise me one bit if New Brunswick ends up
with the highest teen pregnancy rate in the country after all this.
Sweeping sex under the rug isn't the answer IMO.
Reply by David Amos.
Nobody is sweeping it under the rug Higgy is using it to get elected again
Comment by John Gray.
Id really like to know the answer on higgs. If it's
true, I have no trust in his decision making. The reporter asked if he
made the decision based on the panflit he seen without actually
reviewing the presentation entirely before making the decision. Instead
he just kept saying next question. Unfortunately it's not next question,
as a citizen I want to know if the leader of the province makes these
decisions without knowing the whole picture. Incompetent at best higgs
you need to resign
Reply by David Amos.
Dream on
Comment by Jake Newman.
another good move by the conservatives.
Reply by David Amos.
Mr Outhouse knows his business
Reply by Eddy Geek.
How so?
or sarcasm?
These were questions the students actually had.
Reply by Al Clark.
denim dresses?
Reply by MR Cain.
Part of the plan, huh?
Comment by Holley Hardin.
People over 50 shouldn't be involved in topics like this......
Reply by Jake Newman.
why?
Reply by Holley Hardin.
Too Prudish....
Reply by John Gray.
I'll disagree with you but... I disagree with higgs
decision. This group presents to grade 9 and grade 10. However I'm
pretty mad higgs made this decision without reviewing the whole subject.
Reply by David Amos.
So you say
Reply by Holley Hardin.
Amos?...why is that name familar....oh right no wonder you object to Prudish...
Reply by David Amos.
Please explain real slow
Reply by Kevin Broussard.
In that case 90% of the folks here would have to refrain from remarking... lol what would they do all day?
Reply by David Amos.
You claim to be retired Correct?
Reply by Al Clark.
Pretty sure? He freely admits it.
Reply by MR Cain.
You can find the full presentation online; nothing secret. The course can be modified to suit the age group.
Reply by MR Cain.
My mom is more progressive than these people, and she is 95 years old!
Premier
Blaine Higgs shared a photo on social media of a sex education
presentation, calling the material "clearly inappropriate." (X)
Blaine
Higgs said he believes a sex education presentation to high school
students went beyond what's in the province's curriculum. (Ed Hunter/CBC)
Green Party Leader David Coon said the province's treatment of the Quebec-based sex education group has been irresponsible. (Ed Hunter/CBC)
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